Leaving the Homeland in Amritsar | Witness to Partition | Episode 5
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- Acclaimed writer, Khawaja Muhammad Zakariya was 9 years old when he left his homeland to migrate to Lahore. He recalls his childhood in Amritsar, the movement of Pakistan led by Jinnah and the political instability in Pakistan after its birth in 1947.
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My dear father is mashallah 84 and still has an excellent and vivid memory ! So happy that TCM recorded this conversation with him and made an excellent video. These conversations are a treasure to preserve the memories of independence for future generations
They all belongs to the reputed family of sharifpura.
My grandfather name Nazir Hussain
Father's name Syed dilawer Ali
Mujhe bat karna hy aap se
So handsome and good looking too…. What was his profession. (Of your father ….)and what are you doing …and where are you now
@@drpankajgoswami8322 i am India bareilly
Mujhe bat krna hy apse shreefpura amritsar ki please
I felt really broken by hearing the entire conversation. Hindu ho Muslim ,sikh community all suffered a lot....
My father is 96 and perhaps oldest surviving partition witness . born in mandi bahauddin , and studied in lahore .. and now in india
Can I know more? I am a journalist.
@@Krishnazflute sure .
Make videos of his memories save as much as you can
Mandi bahauddin me kahan py?
Lahore is a place where many Indian studied, dev anand studied there, mother of Amitabh Bachchan was a professor there, one of the founding member of ISRO Satish Dhawan studied in government University Lahore.... Ask your dad about lassi and chole of Lahore and badshahi masjid which I saw in yt... I am actually Rajasthani muslim from Mumbai but fascinated by Punjab
My father was born in 1935 and made the same journey. My grandfather's older brother was one of those killed at Jallianwala Bagh
That's quite interesting that Muslims also participated at Jalliawala Bagh.
My family is Marathi. And my grandfather migrated from Karachi to Mumbai by ship. He used to tell me that during 1947, Karachi was a diverse city which has different religions and different languages. He still miss Karachi very much.
Intresting Marathi pun hothe tith...!!!
@@prashantbansode4039ho. 1947 paryanta Karachit 25-30 hajaar Marathi lok hothe.
@prashantbansode4039 Karachi was under bombay presidency. You will be surprised to know Gujaratis dominated Bombay presidency not Marathi.
@@mpqw but Karachi and Bombay both were linguistically and religiously diverse cities
@@mpqw ya , that's because whole Gujarat was under Bombay presidency but Maharashtra had only konkan and khandesh region i.e., cities of Mumbai, Pune, Nashik, Jalgaon, Solapur, Kolhapur,etc. And whole Sindh also was a part of Bombay presidency.
My grandparents came from Jalandhar in 1947. My grandfather told me that it was the Eid day. After Eid namaz they had to leave their home forever. Then they came to Rawalpindi. My grandfather was a self made man.
So sad ,it is really difficult to leave your birthplace for ever and even on the day of Eid just after namaz
I am from Jalandhar 😢 my grandfather was from lahore.
I AM 87 YEARS OLD NOW.I HAVE SEEN PARTITION OF INDIA.I HAVE LIVED IN AMRITSAR. I WAS MOVED AND TOUCHED BY STORY OF ZAKARIA SAHIB.
I MET A VERY OLD AND RICH GUY IN DUBAI.HE SAID HE WAS BORN AND BROUGHT UP IN AMRITSAR...IT WAS HIS DREAM TO VISIT IT..BUT DUE TO STRAINED RELATIONS BETWEEN TWO COUNTRIES, HE CANNIT DO IT.
JASRAJ GOYAL
Sir you are my parents 's city my mother was katra karm Singh near chirah Wala Chowk and my father from katra maan Singh Gali dabgerah wali near by imperial bank of India
Zakariya Sahab appers to be a nice human being. He in his life has seen several changes in the society from horse cart to BMW. May God bless him with good health and long life.
Khwaja Sahib used to be urdu professor in 1962-1964 at Government College. His elder brother Khwaja Ghulam Kibryia was our maths teacher. Both brother were excellent teachers. They are uncles of Saad Rafique.
Their sister is married to my first cousin.
Highly educated family.
@@zahidtoosy6456Love to all of you from Allahabad, India.Alah ho Akbar.Isam says all human beings are from same mother and father, Hinduism says all the people of the world are one family.Jai Hind
My parents migrated from Multan. They migrated from Multan to Jalandhar at the time of partition.I have heard many partition stories from them. #multaniindians
Hindus lost entire property in Pakistan, whereas in India, 3 out of 4 brother emigrated and 1 stayed behind to take care of family property.
Hindus got properties alloted here. dont play victim always
@@jattmoosewala83which property?? All properties of Hindus including temples were given to Muslim immigrants in Pakistan
@@sarvathavicharsheel7487 u dont know anything. All refugees got property here.
Enemy property Act? Pata hai kuch?....
@@jattmoosewala83 That is not true. My dad's family left their property in East Pakistan to save their lives
It took them 10-12 years to have a better life in India.
Mere Nanu and Dadi b Lahore me paida hue fir Amritsar aa gy.
Love from Punjab (India)
To Pakistan ❤
Well I loved his conversation. He is an energetic man and the way he is telling his childhood stories is incredible ❤️
Please Don't forget Jinnah himself was a converted muslim and how he was treated in Pakistan is not a secret.
Second if hindus treated muslims as untouchables, muslims till date use term Qafir for all non muslims.
So both sides are to blame and both sides suffered losses
Dear wt about gandhi sir.......did u people not murder him ......sir 2no terf he agg braber lagi hui......and sir in subcontinent mostly Muslims r converted and converted Muslims r better then born muslims
🤣🤣😂🐄🚽🚽🚽🐂🐂🐄🐄🐄🤣🤣🤣
he is lying hindus we're less in amritsar than sikhs how can they dictate who would drink water or not?.
I am from Amritsar and your memory is great and all the places mentioned by you of Amritsar are authentic
Mr. Zakariya has not given the reason behind Hindu water and Muslim water, which was because Hindus in Punjab/UP/MP/Rajasthan were mainly #vaishnavites vegetarian/did #not eat beef, whereas Muslims were mainly non-vegetatian and #ate beef. That's why the utensils were different.
In areas where Hindus were Shaivites non-vegetarian (such as Kashmir, Bengal, Kerala) there was no such problem, except that Hindus would only eat vegetarian food when invited by Muslims because of fear of being served 'beef'
Agreed.
Agreed
What about Dalits and OBC . They also suffered this divide and untouchability. Don't try to justify in the name of vegetarianism
Dalits and OBCs also faced this discrimination. Majority upper casts have sick mindset.
But since 80's and 70's many Punjabis and people from MP have started eating meat and eggs.
Great interview.. My Grand father also migrate from Pakistan (layalpur) to india.. With his family it was hard times. For both of us . really thanks TCM.
How is it that majority of the migrants who I have seen are all doing quite well?
I mean, they have literally started from scratch and majority of the people have built themselves here.
I am sorry your family had to leave. But that was the reality back then. I hope India hasn't disappointed your family. Btw, just curious...where did your family settle after partion?
@@jam-ss2jc yes thats true, after migration my family settled In punjab, Ludhiana
@@PrabhjotSingh-ku5nv 🎉t😊
@@jam-ss2jc they did not start from scratch in india.government provided the migrated people with 4 hectares of land of irrespective of how much land they owned later land reallocation bill was introduced in 1952 where people who had lands in Pakistan got nearly same amount of land with the papers
Probably because they had the risk-taking apetite and they did very unconventional things with respect to their times. Other thing was they had strong government support.
They started factories, service sector companies went to foreign countries for/after studies, it was normal for them.
Very well documented and presented in an honest manner.
Very nice presentation by the Elderly Gentleman.. Whenver I hear those sad/painful partition stories, I feel, Partition was a disastrous decision. If it was compelling - then a time line (of 6-8 months for re-location) should have been given and that would have saved millions of precious lives. Dividing and declaring immediately was what lead to such large scale violence
People migrated for 2yrs. My family migrated during bengal partition. India doesnt know what migration have done.
You are right. Agreed, 😢🇵🇰
If indian muslims especially muslim league had agreed to common civil law then partition itself could have been avoided
I am from India....Nice narration..
Myself a retired Lecturer from Eastern Punjab Education Department, Since my Pry.and even Middle classes,Untouchability against lower sections of Hindu ,Sikh and Muslim Community was dominant ,later ,the situation improved with the passage of time.It was, perhaps, I think due to their lower professions and moreover their eating trends like Slaughtering Cows etc. This was the main cause root of quarrel between Hindus Sikhs versus Muslims .
But why u target only Muslims although Christian and all English people eat beef
@@Pakfloms349 There no specific reason that only Muslims are targeted everywhere , people of other religions and communities are also being targeted by one way or the other just to keep Dominance of one Particular Community over the other,so, brother,in order to live with communal harmony,giving due respect to the feelings and beliefs of one community to other is the need of the hour,here,the word Slaughtering of cows is quoted just only for example not to hurt your feelings.
@@mahinderpal9404 I mean to say in India only Muslims criticise in case of beef eating although everyone eat it.........but I accept it that if u hv many other ways to eat meat like mutton fish chicken then u should avoid beef for sake of peace.....
What a heart touching story i heard ❤❤❤love you uncle from india❤❤
Heartfelt story narrated by your father.God bless him ....
میرے استاد محترم ،آپ کا شاگرد ہونا ہمارے لیے اعزاز ہے ♥️اللہ صحت و سلامتی عطا فرمائے
Which subject did he teach and in which college
TCM hats off! Keep unfolding these true stories. I said true story as my ancestors are also migrated from Amritser to Lahore. The stories have heard along from my ancestors are very identical to this video.
Gi Rana sahab ap ky buzrag bhi Amritsar sy hain
Really a great man of his time.May Almighty Allah bless this gentle man .
Hello sir
I am from Amritsar city
As you were just 9-10 years old during partition,but your memory is very good.Amrit talkie still exists today and Sharifpura area is near Bus stand and was a muslim area before partition.
I hv been there ...after that is majitha road
Whr I lived fr 3 years
Can u share your wats up number please..... So my grandfather can see their hometown in India
@@Mr.A71it is near Majitha road
My grandfather was born in amritsar . Unfortunately he passed away this year in January. He would have loved to see such videos. Thank you for sharing such splendid videos .
☝🙏
My father born amritsar shreefpura
Love u sir, you remind me my papa, they migrated from Lahore, ravi road to Delhi.... Same experience with them... We both suffered...
My best wishes to you.
Come to Delhi, 🙏please, and be our guests..... My dad, no more, but his childhood friend and his mother saved him during partition days.
🙏
*you remind me OF my papa.........English correction required
ALLAH KA SHUKR ADDA KARO TU,HARAY BAAP NY US TIME ACHA DESIGEN LIYA WARNA JO HAALAT HUNDISTAN K MUSLMAANU KE HAIN ALLAH UN PR REHAM KARAY ....
Wo better halat me hai tbh thoda voilance hai lekin sirf up me baaki jagah sab shant hai south indian muslims to even top me hai
@@divineflu34567??? Thoda???
Gujrat, bhagalpur, so called financial hub bomabay(93) inn sab ko hi total krlo to aakra Pakistan mei maarey gaye hinduon ka post independence 50 guna hei bhai kahan baatein phenk rhe ho????
Aur kitne riots add bhi nhi kiye meine, moorkh samjhte ho kya bhratha shree???
@@divineflu34567kis violence ki baat kr rha hai?
Koi violence nhi hai UP se rha hu kaafi saal.
Kisi bhi dharma ka koi bhi ho idhr, jo harkat krega voh fasega. Yeh scene hai idhr ka gundagardi nhi chlti idhr ab bs
Really real and heart touching stories of partition he has explained in beautiful manner May God keep him healthy
Scars of partition can only be healed when borders of hatred are opened with love ,affection and respect for each other.
Impossible. Pakistan is dill of fanatics,j
Ihadis,militants
@@induchopra3014 and india has a venom pouch in nagpur which tempted jinnah to make pakistan
One great point which is that jaliawala bag have all Hindu , Muslims and Sikhs in that
While we see most of the time it is shown that only Sikhs and few hindus are there
Also people should understand that making a democratic country is not easy and only few survived in history of world
So what we have in India is a great achievement
I am from Amritsar...really sorry for your loss
Very nice Honesty and efficiency both required
As an Indian and a Hindu Untouchability was one of the worst practice in our culture. However we worked very hard to remove this practice. Today our constitution was written by Dr. B.R.Ambedkar who was from lower cast people from Lower cast have reservations in education, government jobs etc.
❤
And my Dad's friend was muslim, there was harmony, but politicians destroyed ,undivided Punjab then for their ambitions
I am from Amritsar....this person very noble soul narrating truth
As usual playing victim card you will never tell what you did with the Hindu and sikh population in lahore
Thanks Sir
For sharing your experience. Like you many others also suffered.
Great personality heard about him alot from my mother.
What a top guy 🙏.
I am an Indian 🇮🇳
Sweet memories n very touchy stories of partition which cannot be forgotten especially those who lost there loved one's .would that this partition would have peacefully without blood shed.
To the person reading this _ Even i don't konw you _ i wish you the best of what life has to offer 🌹.
Thanks,God bless you & who ever else is reading this.
As a progressive Indian citizen, I say sorry to you for the issues which you had faced as you are like my Dadaji. I cannot tell if dividing the country was a good choice or not. But we have suffered a lot.😢
I hope we all can heal and learn from those experiences. I wish peace and prosperity to both the countries.
Much love from 🇵🇰
But we still don't want to forget that because politics doesn't let us do so
I feel ashamed for all the bad that happened ..
What was the plight of Hindus and Sikhs in Pakistan during partition? They were also butchered by Muslims. It is not a one sided story that this old man is describing.
Such a gentleman
Your description of the genesis of two nations theory and formation of Pakistan and routine of things that followed thereafter in Pakistan is revealing and eye opening. Government grabbing happened in india almost on the same lines. But your description certifies that A WELL READ PERSON IS A WELL PERSON AND THAT KNOWLEDGE OPENS BROADENS THE VISTAS OF MIND AND BODY.
good that partition happened, in hindsight it was a good decision. still so many poor and uneducated muslims chose to stay back, though the entire upper and middle class moved to Pakistan. many did not have the money to buy a rail ticket to Pakistan. and some were close to their ancestors' properties and graves in UP/CP/Bihar, 3 brothers moved and 1 stayed back in lucknow to take care of property; for many in UP/CP/Bihar, Pakistan was like a desert where camels ran.
his mannerisms remind me so much of the great Punjabi poet Shiv Kumar Batalvi. Divided by religions and borders and yet the Punjabis seem to be one quom.
My grandfather migrated from Bihar to Karachi with little kids, leaving all ancestral property there, just with some belongings to start new life. They faced tremendous issues during their journey.
Bhai yahan jk musalman pehle the wo aaj bhi musalman hi hain...paxtan me to hindu or sikh ko topi pehna di...
بہت اچھا لگا
What a lovely person.We would have been very happy if Pakistan has developed a politically & economically strong nation.
Good information.
What great lessons of history. Simple , Correct and true .
Thanks
Sukhi
USA
A great video
We also moved from amritsar to nankana sahib
My grandfather migrated from narowal, pasrur, chakk propiyan, propi nagra
With due respect sir there were such things that time but it wasn't due to hate but food choice what I have heard. Muslims and Dalits used to eat non veg foods and butcher animals which non-muslims and non dalits didn't do that time. So there were such issues as non muslim faith restricts non veg and blood etc. Now people are educated and the Indian constitution and laws avoid such things. Anyways I loved hearing you ❤️ from India.
I understand your point but outwardly it was visible discrimination, isn't that?? please remember the age of the gentleman at that time..
@@sandipbhattacharyya7540 it was indeed. Human civilization is slightly slow in Asian countries. If we go back a thousand years from today think of the status of women in society, cast , religious division etc. That time there was monarchy and societies were divided basis the class/cast etc for eg: King used to be Rajpoot, Brahmins were in education, While other cast were in service which made them make low progress and yes social bias were there. Now we are no more ruled by King so all rules are based constitution and things are equal for everyone. Mentally it takes centuries to get rid of such bloody things 😀
Finally, they ended up creating separate wells to drink water from hundreds of miles away rather than allowing each community to drink from their respective wells. It's just cunning ploy some people cookedup to get a separate state based on religion and conveniently blame someone else.
Brother it's still in practice having non veg and even higher caste Hindus are major consumers... I doesn't make any sense for hatered strechted to division..... Partition was political planned move executed perfectly on the cost of innocent Hindu Muslim lives
Whateu said sir untouchable. It still happening in pakistan. I m Pakistani hindu n mai jahn jata hu wahn hum hinduon k lie alag se glass hote hai jo pichhe rakha hota hai koi koi jagh to tuta futa hota hai or usi me wo log pani dete hai... yahn aj v hinduo k sath aise behave hote hain
MashaAllah !
There were no Balochs in the so called Baloch regiment as Jinnah attacked the Kalat state to own it for minerals like gold and copper. Kalat was not given to so called Pakistan. The sheer origin was decided in the UK by SOB Churchill and SOB Chamberlain under the divide and rule policy to keep India at war and avoid another Japan from rising.
Both sides were affected by the fire of hate at that painful time😢 my grandfather was killed by rioters along with his frnds... Very tough time for both sides 😢
This made me cry what our country could have been sad
Great memoir
Ji Sir my MIAN family was from LAHORE that time and my GREAT GRAND FATHER MIAN MOHD DIN SAHIB with his son's made sure everyone gets cooked food and SIKHS AND HINDUS leave unhurt and JINNAH SAHIBS PAKISTAN is reality BUT when I see today's PAKISTAN after 75 years..... . ....................
Till the time you don't learn to question jinnah, his thoughts, his intentions, you areblank
Bhut kjoobsorat or Muffasal guftgo ki Ap ney ❤
Great speech 🎉
Religion and peace rarely go hand and hand.
Great man...
..
❤ salute
Masha Allah
Alhamdulillah. We got. Our country Pakistan although we have to sacrifice. Our lives good we are. Lucky. To be away. From. Hindus and. Sikhs
😅we r also lucky that u people left us..
Keeping weeping and keep crying Pakistanis for every pile of bread...
TCM you guys are doing great work love your work may Allah bless u and your team for your hardwork❤️❤️🔥
My nani is also migrated from up to karachi
Or Meri dadi bhe Amritsar se train k zariye pakistan ayen ... Raste mn .. unka ek bhai wahe train mn charhte time kho gaya tha or phir wo kbhe nh mila ..wo ye stories btatee howe hamesha rotii thii 💔 ... Khyr mere nanyal or dadyal k bht se rishtedar india mn bht c jaga rehte hein or mere ghr wale bht jate the phle india ...pr jb hum bare howe tw halat he kch or the 💔 Bs Umeed hai upar wala halat behtr kr de ❤
We also genuinely want this bibi...
Because in a war there is no victory nor lose it only leads to destruction...❤❤love from Banaras (up)..
Sir, very impressive true information of tht time not told yr mohalla near golden Temple. Rubb baily. Thanks.
Saare musalman ne vote diya lekin saare kyon gaye nahin
Kyunki ye wo log hai jinhone Pakistan banaya lekin khud Pakistan nahi gaye ...inka manna tha Ladke liya hai Pakistan Hans k lenge hindustan 😡
Kyu k sirf punjab ko divide kiya gaya tha. Agar Punjab or bengal ki tarhan UP MP bihar Maratha ko divide kiya jata to or Muslims kee or countries banai jatee to muslims un mai he rahty. Pakistan indian muslims kay liya nahi banaya gaya. Pakistan sirf natives kay liya banaya gaya tha kyu kay Pakistan kay natives ka majority religion Islam tha or hai.
Agr zayada he shook hai to apni states ko muslims or hindus mai divide kar kay muslim or Christians ki ek or country banaaa do. Phir tumhain apny sawal ka jawab mill jaaay gaaa. Tumhari territory mai bhe 100% hindus hoo jayn gaaay. Or muslim sikh Christian country jo nharat ko kaaat kar banaya jaaay gaaa who bhe 100% hindu free ho jaaay gee. Pakistan indian muslims kayy liya nahi blk local muslim population kay liya banaya gaya hai. Its was only partition of punjab so population exchange occurred within punjab between punjabis. Sikhs hindus of west punjab migrated to east punjab and Muslims of east punjab migrated to west punjab
पूर्व पंजाब में हिंदू सिख नरसंहार का बखान करना मुश्किल है
😮😢😢😢❤
Cried literally
پروفیسر ڈاکٹر خواجہ ذکریا. اورینٹل کالج لاہور.
My Mum’s family were upset when the Brits left India as they had good relations with them but unfortunately my family decided to stay in India after partition as they didn’t need to go but now I’m wondering should they have done it.
Anectodal piece but interesting episodes that is based on hearsay, some experienced some faced!
Sharifpura aj bhi hai or wahan aj b log rehty Amritsar me. Uske paas shivala mandir hai and railway tracks hai. Ab wahan ek school b hai jahan se mai padi hu.
Very clear memory
Correct
We are still suffering in untouchablity from upper cast hindu
You have reservation power. The government has provided you lots of facilities. If you can't utilize these all and are still crying then it's your fault only.
Painful story but those money from Jutes you got from Bangladesh.... actually our money
My feeling of humour is I started seeing in between and I thought he is a punjabi Hindu that means they are all the same except of religion 😅😂
Very tiuching
Let there be peace ☮️ hope
Not only Muslim but all the lower caste of Hinduism has expirenced this cruel treatment of so called "untouchability".
Chachaji ka nmbr mil saktahy mere father shreefpura k the hamara koi nhi mila befor1947 meredada daroga Nazeer Husain the mere ak taya babbi pahlvan the
It also shows how Pakistani converted Chawla family members into Muslim.
Zinna is the main soul and factor in partion and related killings unfortunateley😮
killing of Muslim still continued in India and there is no Jinnah factor today
Wow yeh saari TALKIES (Cinemas) Abhi b hai Amritsar mein
I love u uncle gggg
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Same practice happens in pakistan where There are different utensils for hindus
Dear Mr. Fawad, I am teaching at a renowned university in Islamabad can I have the honor of inviting Khawaja Muhammad Zakariya for my students to share some memories.
My grandfather passed away in 2021..He was 90 years old at that time. He told me stories about pre independence India.
Anyways, If present day Pakistan stopped using terrorist groups against the Indian Army, and did the required efforts to stop terrorism, it would've been a nicer experiance to meet or greet the common people of Pakistan someday.
Jai Hind❤️, Jai Bharat🇮🇳
Same for Indians, If India stops sponsering terrorist groups in Pakistan. It would have been nicer as awell. Both sides have done their parts.
We common people share alot in culture and i hope in future this ends
@@oscarmike3028 I think the same bro🤝.
Likewise if Indian freed Kashmir under UNSCR 47 (1948) 😮 and stopped persecuting Muslims and gave them their right to be equal citizens, and stopped funding terrorists groups in Baluchistan and trying to discredit Pakistan then sure we can get along. India act like a creepy guy who can’t get over the fact that we didn’t want to be with you.
India also does terrorism in Pakistan. You people need to realise Pakistan is a reality and we're here to stay. Stop trying to take our country.
Alfaz nhi miltey kesey iss video ki tareef kro baqi sirf itna keh kr kozay me darya band kro ga ke bohat hi ala yadien hein baba g k bachpan ki bohat Ala
There are no different water taps in India after partition and many Muslims preferred to live in India after partition. Leaving India was matter of choice for Muslims.
The thing which you and most others dont understand is that it was not the partition of india but it was only the partition of punjab and the people who migrated on both sides of border were Punjabis(Muslims Sikhs and hindus). Pakistan was demanded for native muslim Population which were in majority in north-west india. Jinnah simpley demanded that muslim majority areas should be separated and made their own country with minority still living in these areas. But unfair division cause all these voilances and blunders. Oakistan was bot and never made for muslims of india .Some muslims majority areas in east punjab given to India due to which angry sikhs and hindus start forcing punjabi muslims out of east punjab and settled in their Punjab and in response Muslims in West Punjab start forcing punjabi hindus and sikhs out of their land. This was partition of punjab which becomes more like religion territory at that time. Pakistan was not made for muslims of whole subcontinent this is the misinformation created by Extremists.
Aur pakistan Essa bana ki sub haans rahay hain 😂😂😂
I am from Amritsar I was five year old then I wish you all the best