Adding THE SOLDIER to my Indie Game!
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- čas přidán 16. 06. 2024
- Don't tell Gabe.
💥Download Soldier's Version:💥
heygrouch.itch.io/thunder-jumper
(Use cheat code "soldier" on main menu!)
⚡Download Steam Version:⚡
store.steampowered.com/app/25...
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0:00 Intro
1:12 Development Process
4:36 Special Items
5:35 Play as Soldier! - Hry
![[TF2] Why People Hate Soldier](/img/n.gif)
Praying Valve doesn’t come for you 🙏
A direct email from a Valve employee has the potential to either be a dream come true or my worst nightmare. Thank you for the prayers 🙏
Good thing valve literally doesnt care about tf2 copyright
valve is chill when it comes to fan games / references
@@jeremypanjaitan4039 tf2 source 2:
@@Bunny_named_Pointy That was because it was using Source 2 and it didn't have the TF2 license same goes for any other Valve game including Alyx.
I love the idea of secret characters having actual different playstyles rather than just being reskins or having slight stat changes
Mr meat boy
Gotta say
Lost opportunity to make the cheat code "screamingeagles"
Or "ifgodhadwantedyoutolivehewouldnothavecreatedme"
@@HeyGrouch now THAT makes you worthy of playing soldier.
I just realized you could use the Beggars Bazooka instead of the Force A Nature. The Baggars Bazooka explodes directly on him instead of normally firing if you overload it.
Should probably add Quakeguy
After all, rocket jumping was invented in Quake
(Could possibly have the super nailgun as a jetpack joyride type tool (of course with a limited use before having to recharge))
Also. It would be kinda funny if you made "IDDQD" a code that just displays a message telling the player that there's no godmode, so they can stop looking
Hahaha, fake cheatcodes is a hilarious idea
Oh and the "Jetpack Joyride" type of movement is present in the water levels- Which aren't in the demo, but WILL be in the full game when it launches!
@@HeyGrouch I got to admit I kinda stole it from "Heretic"
Where "IDDQD" would just cause you to instantly implode
To be fair, Team Fortress 1 was a Quake mod, so the Soldier was just the Quake guy with the vanilla Quake rocket launcher but that needed to be reloaded.
His name is Ranger
Solution to not being able to put soldier into steam version: make a different character but one that people can still see as soldier, and name them something like “mercenary”
Smart!!
I am guessing that you didn't want to wait 3 decades for Valve getting back to you about legally allowing Solider in the game, did you?
This looks cool
What is this 3 you speak of, do you mean 2 years episode 2?
@@idioticed4379 Sorry, I meant to say waiting alyx years :(
I love how Ascent of Flowers collectable requires you to do a sync jump
awesome game.
Glad you like it!!! That level's bolt is definitely my favorite. The other bolts are basically skill checks, but that one is kind of a puzzle
*_THE DEMOMAN’S A- SENTRY!_*
*_OHAHAHAHAHAHAHA_*
How about Steve or Alex with wind charges? For a double jump, they could real quick smack an animal with a Mace to gain more height. Fishing rod grappling hook too
TNT cannons!!!!
Literral, is super meat boy
if i wanted to jump higher i also would hit my dog with a metal object
loaded from risk of rain 2 would be cool since she has a grapple hook, a thunder slam, and a charge punch so it would be a fun character to add
Oh my god I love the character design so much
0:28 what the meow meow
Mondays 🙄
*"Oh soldier, who will they ever find to replace you."*
-Spy, 2020
A potential replacement for the force a nature could be the beggars bazooka overloading
That makes so much more sense than my idea 😅
Well, you could always adapt him into a Totally Original Character for the final release 🙃
Hahaha, that's true
bro is about to get a cease and desist in a few decades
I think they're going to send it to me via carrier pigeon
As soon as I heard blender and tf2 i knew immediately that you're gonna bring up hisanimations. Dude's the GOAT
Praise be to Mr. Animations 🙏
Amazing work! It's cool to see the process of how the different steps came together.
Glad you think so! I was pretty unsure about this more "explanatory" kind of video
Im so impressed by the amount of work that went into this seemingly simple addition. I learned a ton in this video.
Glad you learned something!
I love this! a couple ideas i had while watching were:
Playing as Soldier turns the checkpoints into refill cabinets, to help with only having 4 rockets until you stop to reload like in actual TF2.
Changing the FaN for the Beggar's Bazooka, as in overloading it to basically get extra distance while in the air just like real TF2.
Resupply cabinets is a really interesting idea! That'd make for great puzzle-like levels
See, this proves my point how every game would be better with Rocket Jumping
It's literally true
i was half expecting the cheat code to be "MAGGOTS" but its still an amazing cheat code :D
Awesome demo!
Thank you!! Really glad you liked it :)
I think it's a bit odd his head doesn't move with his arms, but I think there's a good reason for it.
Well, this is Soldier we're talking about. His eyes are always covered by his helmet, so I doubt it matters much to him! Lol
@@HeyGrouch you're the boss
"Scout is in prison for aggravated loitering"
Not something I thought id hear but it sounds correct
Honestly you could swap out the Force-a-nature with the stock shotgun and it wouldn't matter.
Definitely will try this out!
Best of luck with the C&D!
Thanks! :D
ULTRAKILL has probably one of the best movement kits I've ever had the pleasure of using, but I feel that aside from the slam and maybe dash, V1's movement would be a lot of work to implement into this game. It would, however, be cool as hell like it is having Soldier in there!
This game looks awesome! I gotta try it some time!
Please do! :)
"Scout is in prison for aggravated loitering"
- Grouch, 2024.
This game looks super fun dude!
Thanks so much!!
you could make a quick reskin for the steam version once it eventually comes out ! keeping enough elements to let people know that it's a reference while staying legal
looks fun fun fun, I'll try it out later this evening
and, suggestions for characters? perhaps a playstyle that involves less rockets and more along the lines of bhopping to increase speed, with wall jumps? maybe some sort of mario-esque mechanic to clear some tougher levels where you can build backwards speed infinitely to get to the end of a level lol
Oh that'd be awesome
Add peppino from pizza tower. His move set is really cool and also you can just ask the developers for permission to use assets(because it’s not valve that only works with multi billion corporations)
We need Garfield rocket jumping, but he is actually sleeping.
Explosions are lasagna splats
gaben WILL use his mega death ray 5000 on you be watching the sky constantly
Great work grotch!
Thanks Dustpan!
Grotch 💀
Rail Gunner from RoR2 has something similar to stickyjumping. The main difference is that RG’s explosives detonate after a fixed amount of time rather than being detonated manually. Could be fun timing trying to time your jumps!
Oh that'd be super cool. Trying to beat the game when rockets don't explode on impact would be crazy!
A group of people were working on tf2 source 2 and they were sent a cease and desist letter from valve.
Just make a legally distinct version of Soldier and the weapons he uses, find free or paid assets that are similar, or commission someone to make the assets you need. Would be a heck of a lot safer to go with that
I’m sure valve would actually let you add him to your game. They have done that with characters in the past
You should make his grappling hook into the one from Mannpower mode
I wanted to, but not enough time /:
Valve is usually cool with this stuff. You could probably just write them an email to ask if you can use them and chances are they would say yes.
Ooooh Idk if you gonna see this
but for the weird lightning swing you use to swing around, it should be a grappling hook instead of the pickaxe from TF2
It would fit him cuz its also from TF2
I wanted to but I ran out of time and was dumb T-T
Gob bless you. I always wished for old-school cheats in current indie games
:) There will be more to come!
btw there is a grappling hook in the game you can use for the grapling hook (soldier edition)
To make it a bit more accurate have soldier wield the grappling hook instead of the force of nature imo.
ngl, i thought you were gonna say scout was in prison due to the stunt he pulled trying to pick up teenage girls at a high school by disguising himself as a student.
You better add Kirby.
I think if you can't put Soldier in the full game you should change him into an original character and keep him in the game that way, he's SO fun to play as :D
Considering it!
Junkrat from Overwatch could be cool.
Now we need a demoman with sticky jumper😂
Might be worth emailing valve to see if you cpuld add it to ur game, theyve allowed a bunch of games to do it before
I probably will!
Just downloaded the demo and WOW!
This is one of those games that's just the distilled essence of video games. I've been gaming for over a decade and rarely have I had this much moment-to-moment fun. The gameplay is amazing. I've been thinking about a rocket jump-based platformer for a while, and this is a simple, but brutally effective way of combining all the most fun Source game tricks into an easy to play, but super though to master speedrun platformer.
The gameplay is a constant learning experience and despite the fact that you will die a lot, it's never frustrating because you can feel yourself learning with each try, making failure rewarding, and success an absolute clench-your-fist, jump-up-and-cheer triumph. It feels so good to finally get a passage right, and learn more about the mechanics in the process.
I like that this game lets you take all the time to breathe that you need, and that the patterns of all moving things that aren't your character are predictable and always reset on respawn. I also like that after each tricky passage, it's hardly difficult to reach the next checkpoint to save your progress.
It's also fun to experiment and try little tricks, like finishing the level by sniping the factory at the end with a rocket, and I love how there's no single correct solution to every level, that you can also launch yourself into your own doom with every technique if you don't apply it right, and that you can try many different techniques and develop your own style.
You also won't progress by brute-forcing your way and just trying over and over again, but by learning from your mistakes and trying something new. This is what staves off frustration.
It's cool that the main level paths have a pretty mellow difficulty scale, but there's always exactly one optional lightning bolt in each level that puts everything you've learned until now to the test. It's very humane of you that checkpoints immediately activate as soon as you cross them horizontally, and that a collected lightning bolt is immediately saved, even if you die.
I'm already excited, seeing the locked abilities beside the bolt grapple on the ability wheel, and I can imagine that learning to speedrun this can be a blast. Accellerating to ludicrous speed is also an absolute rush.
I like the stylized parallaxing of the ground tiles, and how it's clear which surfaces you can and can't use your electric abilities on, as well as the difference between the deadly smog clouds and pink clouds you can stand on.
I like the death sound effect of the robot, because it sounds like "Oops, let me try that again." Very encouraging.
I also appreciate this game's adherence to the Characters-with-black-and-yellow-color-scheme-and-electric-powers agenda.
The serene music is actually surprisingly fitting despite you blasting yourself around with a deadly weapon, because it keeps your mind level. Though I turned it down and put on the Jetpack Joyride theme instead.
I also appreciate the Super Mario Bros. reference in the airship level.
The theme of being an electric robot who tears down the fossil industry is very fitting, and I like how the opening cutscene admits that nature isn't peaceful, but that pollution still disturbs harmony. I'd just appreciate it if this game went a bit further with its environmentalist theme and stated that the robot gets his electricity from nuclear reactors, because nuclear energy is actually environmentally friendly and has a lot of misconceptions around it.
Some reccomendations I have for the full release are to clean up the input timing when respawning, as you can sometimes end up launching yourself into death right after respawning because you pressed a button right as you died.
I would also like button remapping, and perhaps an optional slow-motion ability that you can limit via a menu, similar to how Celeste does it.
Also, I bet that cosmetics for your robot would make for an awesome long-term motivation.
This game is also begging for a level editor and leaderboards.
And even if he has to be removed for the full release, I think you should keep Soldier's shotgun ability, because it acts like a double jump and is really fun. While we're at it, you could also replace Soldier's/Whatever character you would replace Soldier with's bolt grapple with the Mannhook from TF2 and allow it to hook into the opposite of what surfaces the bolt grapple can hook into.
All in all, this is an awesome game that so clearly shows its inspirations and your passions for them, and I'm buying it on Steam day one.
On some of my TF2 videos I'd receive a few long comments from people who really loved TF2 and wanted to write paragraphs on paragraphs about it. It was so cool to see the passion. But to see someone write a comment like that about MY game?? It's surreal. Thank you so much for seeing beauty in it. I'll be coming back to this comment any time I fail to see the beauty in it myself.
@@HeyGrouch Awww, it's no problem. I just really enjoyed the demo and thought I'd let you know what I think, because it might help you with development.
Oh man im in love with this game
Yay! :)
You could actually do something like super meat boy did, a lot of crossover characters u can unlock and use their different mechanics to pass levels
Super Meat Boy was so goated for that
This should be the new rule of a game wants to be on steam the solider has to be somewhere in the game weather it be his texture in the files or he’s an npc
Hahaha yes
The one thing valve doesn't like is when people use their assets without permission (which is why the source 2 remake was taken down)
I would recommend changing out the force a nature for his usual shotgun. Bit of creative Liberty I know and for the sort of grappling hook thing just reskin that lightning bolt looking thing with the grappling hook all characters get in the obscure Mannpower game mode
just played this for the first time and got jumpscared by get it together by the go team 🔥
I like how the game name just called thunder jumper but the theme is sonic the hedgehog
Was a missed opportunity to make the cheat code “Godspeed” in reference to soldier’s voice actor, Rick May.
I miss him.
I miss him too :(
Honestly Valve might be ok with you having this in your game, there are lots of Valve fan games that use Valve assets and normally Valve is cool with games and fan projects.
Thunder jumper became a rocket jump training map
That'd be a sick TF2 custom map
Here an interesting cheat code.
If you press - Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Enter: You enter Kazio Mode in Thunder Jumper.
no way you added him to thinder jumper? so excited
yes way 🔥
Kind of funny you making this video, cause I've been wanting to make a 2D platformer in unreal, but have been procrastinating on it solely because I can't get mouse aiming working like it does here, and I haven't gotten rocket jumping working. Don't worry the game concept is still different from what you're doing but since you got it working in unity maybe I'll try and find some way to get it working in unreal. Or maybe Godot if I'm feeling confident.
Programming mouse input used to be a big struggle for me, it can be really frustrating. And getting rocket jumps to feel right took a long time for me too. Don't give up though! I'd love to play your game, and I'm sure many others will too! These things don't come easy, but if you're patient and keep playing with it you'll get there eventually :)
Dude I remember seeing that game in the "VALVe direct"!!
I loved working with the Mann Magazine for the Valve Direct!!
Man i just love soldier
OBS: VALVE DO NOT COME FOR THIS MAN'S BASS!
Protecting my bass at all costs 🐟 🐟 🐟
There's an NES game called Q-boy, where if you press select while the game is paused, you get to play as mario and stuff like enemies and collectibles become goombas and coins, so it's really fun
I looked it up, that's so cool! I should make a whole video on game characters appearing in the "wrong" game
I have a little idea to replace the force a nature (you don't gotta ofc). Maybe it could be the base jumper opening up or something? idk just a thing I thought of
Oh that's a neat idea!
i got an idea for a cheat: tails like soldier but instead of rocket jumping you use tails's tails it would work exactly how the rocket would maybe a double jump to replace the force-o-nature?
we have finally created the thunder jumper trifecta
Triunder Fumper
Damn that looks fun
I assure you it is!
imagine someone who doesn't know about this at all
they somehow get to play as a secret character
and it's fucking Jane Doe, The Soldier of Team Fortress 2™
That someone could be your friends! ;)
didn't have to tell me, already knew
you should make it so that when you type in the code the domination jingle plays
I found that if use press shift at the start of a level the timer doesn't start, and you can use that with soildiers FaN to boost a bit futher ahead at the start, which i assume is unintensional.
Another funny tf2 idea could be a sentry on wheels, they do have rockets I don't know how it would fill the other 2 roles, but it's still dumb and funny
5:21 CANON
IT’S CANON
THEY SAID IT
IT’S CANON
You did forget that TF2 does have a grappling hook in the game.
I'm not sure if it's intentional, but the flowers bounce your rockets when you shoot at them. and at first I thought it was just a funny coincidence, but that allows you to SYNC JUMP!
It's intentional, but for some reason Soldier's rockets specifically don't change direction when bounced. :P There were a few bugs I wasn't able to fix before the vid got published. I'm glad you discovered the sync jumps! That's 1 of 2 ways players can sync jump B]
@@HeyGrouch yeah the rockets not changing direction was the only reason I thought it might not be intentional, thank you for clearing that up.
its easy to get source stuff into blender, just get the source importer tools. I have a set of tools that can import .mdl model directly so you don't have to decompile them, also works with alyx models. I'm mostly a 3ds max user though
See already it sounds like you're about 20 IQ points above my pay grade
Please add Peppino into thunder jumper
It would be hilarious!
Boy dont forget about rick may he goes to sky by rocket jump he a good soldier
After going through the game I can confirm soldier is a good he runs fluidly
the only other tidbits i have to share are the following:
1. Missed opportunity not making the grappling hook the one from mannpower
2. lvl 7 was difficult
Thank you for the feedback! Was it just the intro of 7 that was difficult? I was worried it might be too tough
@@HeyGrouch ehh mostly just the intro tbh
I think maybe instead of the force of nature you could add the beggar's bazooka which in game gives you insane mobility even mid air flight (You will take dmg though) But good video
Oooh that's smart!
Fun way to get around getting sued by valve(doesnt work with nintendo though >.>) is making valve content be a downloadable workshop mod. Do with that info whatever ya want.
Technically, yes, ya still be putting valve assets outside of source engine so it is illegal, but valve doesnt really strike workshop items and having it as mods you can share it on 3rd party sites and still have it on steam version.
Cool stuff btw. Love yo game :)
Oh that's actually really smart! I'll look into that
Hunt Down The Freeman is still on Steam, I think having a TF2 character in a whole another game is something they won't care about.
@@mammamiawhygod2091 Yet port of tf2 on source 2 on base of yet to be released s&box was taken down by valve legal team.
Hunt down the Freeman, despite its quality, started as somewhat professional project. They payed for source licenses and use source engine. That's why they are legally allowed to use valve IP assets.
Another benefit to add legally questionable content as mods -> Needs to be taken down? Ofc, ill just take down the mod and actually have 0 edits to my game
awesome game, fastest ive gotten on level 1 is a 9.6 second time, i hope you can add an option to return to the previous level so you can do runs for one level without having to navigate the menu, that would be greatly appreciated!
also there was a bug where restarting the level doesnt reset the timer for some reason
nevermind i was using the r button not the g button, i completely forgot the controls since last time ive played
You're right, that would be a good option! I'll make sure it's in the full game :)
You should add The Great Papyrus from Undertale to your game, but you should actually use the sprites from Undertale instead of drawing him
maybe instead of the lightning grapple thing it was the mannpower grapple?
You should reach out to valve and ask if you can use him in the game.
Aye imma warn U real quick. Valve is gonna rip your arms off.
I understand not doing this since the work is already done, but what if you instead cut him in half at the waist rather than the shoulder since he has animations for his upper body pointing upwards and such. This may make him look less weird when doing extreme angles.
The issue here is that the shoot animation needs to be totally independent from the body. If I used his entire torso, then I'd need a separate shoot animation for every single possible torso angle :P
I was thinking, could you add the medic from team fortress classic? He is also from the tf2 universe but he is super op due to his mobility & due to him being the best class in tfc, even being a better scout than the tfc scout. He can have Ross’ (tfc soldier’s) rocket launcher in the thunder jumper universe. Also while you’re at it, you can add Lang Wrangler from jojo as he has a power that can make the real world behave as it was space by removing gravity. Also his power’s name is Jumping Jack Flash. Perfect for a game named Thunder Jumper. Again I’m only giving you suggestions, you don’t have to add them if you don’t want to
The full game actually will have a low-gravity world!
@@HeyGrouch is nice
Eats from eats where you place different items to get him to the end
Cute idea!!
Huh, weird.
Soldier does not use the "Grappling Hook" that are from TF2 Universe. But, instead using the grappling hook that are in Thunder Jumper universe...
imagine need put a cheat that you need write "maggot" in the keyboard to unlock him
would be cool if you added pizzaface s a cheat code to chase you the entire game. the code could be "showtime"
that's a great idea for a pizza tower cheat code!!
BigHead Cheat code, makes your head big, because every good game has a big head cheat code.
100% must-have
I mean, you COULD get the Soldier in the Steam version... by asking Valve if it's cool to do so. They're usually quite fine with stuff like that.
And that may open up the option for more alternative characters (crossover or your own) in the future.
Yeah, reading these comments makes me think I probably should have done that. Whoops.
@@HeyGrouch Hey, the good news: Now that you have done it, you can even show off how it would work.
I see that as an added benefit.