build your DREAM SYNTH with this // Cre8audio NiftyKEYZ review + Comparison with Waldorf KB37
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- čas přidán 1. 07. 2024
- Cre8audio sent me their NiftyKEYZ. A eurorack keyboard case with a TON of features. Sponsored by DistroKid. Want to release your music on Spotify & iTunes? Use distrokid.com/vip/bobeats and get a discount and support the channel in the process.
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CONTENT
00:00 Intro
02:54 Poly build / ARP / splits and more...
09:37 Mono build / depth / midi-CV
13:21 SECRET GUEST with Waldorf KB37
16:39 Comparison with KB37
17:36 Final thoughts
Always a good time when Bo calls me up, no exception today!
Dope product, happy to help with this. 🙏🙏
Thanks!
This goes a long way toward making eurorack accessible. It's like... halfway between a Matriarch and a traditional rack.
Can I just say, much kudos to you my good sir! This has to be one of the most elegant polyphony/paraphony in eurorack setups I’ve heard
I'm not one for modular, but this case has a TON of super useful features! Great video, Bo (and Jorb)!
Wow! I really like this one. May have to make this my primary Eurorack keyboard. Thanks for a great demo/review!
I love these surprise cameos. They remind me of hero team ups in comic books. Very interesting video too!
Thanks. BO! Great review! And thanks to Jorb, too!
Very cool product. You guys make it harder to avoid the modular temptation every day! Great stuff as always. Thanks Bo! (and Jorb)
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Great video as always. Decent timing for this product too now that the Waldorf keyboard eurorack case has been discontinued for just over a year, leaving a gap in the market.
Great video Bo. I could see this as a decent synth in my setup and almost makes me want to go modular. Thanks.
Lovely patches and great video Bo! Thanks tons!
And good work to you guys, well read market into a well executed product.
@@JorbLovesGear thanks much!
This feels like the right way to expand just enough beyond my Pittsburgh Structure case. Lots of functionality and interface potential.
I would want to put my sequencers in this for easy programming, and have them feed out to the main rack.
Thanks for this review, and for just being the genius I wished lived next door! Bo, you are Ace!
Thanks for watching!!
YUSSSS!!!! Was just about to buy the case, one sec ABORT! ABORT MISSION !!!
Just like building your own Moog grandmother
Great review!
It’s an amazing piece! Had my for a few weeks now and I can’t stay away from it!
The worst part about having one is deciding what to put in it because you’ll want to put everything into it 🤷♂️
@@sonalsystem That's a nice problem to have!
Great video and nice to see Jorb as a surprise guest.
time for you to come on the channel??
@@BoBeats oh, haha, I didn't mean it _that_ way. :-) I just discovered Jorb some time ago and was happy to see him here. :-)
@@mr_floydst 🙏🙏🙏
this looks sick!!
I see this as more or less a clean looking eurorack performance unit, especially when set up for polyphonic use and you are a keyboard musician. If you have a large collection of eurorack modules in a studio case, this would be a nice all-in-one gig performance case, that you can select and then swap modules in and out from your studio eurorack case. At least it looks a lot cleaner than lugging around a Arturia Keystep pro with a standard eurorack case.
Nice splits, poly.. i ordered one! Looking forward to put my Eaganmatrix module with my joystick in :)
It seems like its pretty decently built. I hope they continue to expand the lineup, maybe update the nifty case a bit.
huge stuff!
Not my wheelhouse but watched through anyways. Great vid Bo!
I like the idea of creating a small rig. Maybe made up of modules I need to learn or spend more time with. Something I can take out of my office and annoy my family with in closer proximity. This is cool.
Perfect timing for this product really, with the Waldorf KB37 being discontinued.
I just learned that they made a pretty cool filter and oscillator for a damn good price.
So it’s a cross between a palette case and the Waldorf keyboard case? Excellent!
Excellent, a modular grid you can share of both builds?
I know they have different widths, but it would be neat if they had a variant of the BigEARS to attach a NiftyCASE to the top of a NiftyKEYZ, in case people are interested in upgrading and need more space anyway :) Oh well, time to bring out the 3D Printer.
Modular is the future, I'm so excited for the next 5-10 years, gonna be wild.
The futur isn’t even hardware
Index Not sure about it.
It’s always the future.
Split mode!? Instant Buy it is.. wanted this in a Moog synth for a long time.. now i'll just eurorack one myself.
This really makes me wish for a black niftycase
For keyboard performers who wish to eliminate frustrations with synths today such as individual control of each oscillators: amp/filter envelope + panning + LFO + amp/mixer and filter....instead of passing all oscillators into a mono single filter/envelope with just mixing. Think about have individual control of oscillators, like having 3 layers of synths for building a beginning, middle and end to sounds.
Keyboard performance on eurorack? What are you taking 10 minutes intermissions for every song to change your patch?
@@glynnpowell7864 NO. keyboard performance like in the beginning using Moog modulars. (Keith Emerson) If you want to stage it, they did in those days, I would not. I am talking about designing your own synthesizer with your choice of modules for keyboard play, not sequencing.
This is why I want a Vermona Perfourmer when they finally come back into stock.
Four note poly with the ability to adjust each voice, a bit like the Analog Four but with more knobs and a warmer sound.
This video made me Buy the NiftyKeyz! very nice, i have a questions until my arrives tho, u said its not true polyphony because u dont have a filter per voice and no adsr per voice whats the disadvantages of the setup u showed there? to me it sounds quite like a polyphony i would expect.
I wish my Waldorf kb37 would have the 4 voice polyphony functionality of the Nifty. Otherwise I happy with it :)
This is pretty cool, did anyone notice the logo on the box?
Hi BoBeats. I am experiencing an annoying MIDI feedback loop with my NiftyKeyz due to all my keyboards having dedicated IN, OUT, and THRU ports, but NiftyKeyz not. I use Local-OFF mode, sending MIDI to my DAW and back to the NiftyKeyz. However, because the OUT/THRU is combined, the NiftyKeyz sends everything it receives back through the MIDI OUT/THRU, causing the loop. I couldn't find an option in the manual to disable MIDI THRU. Could you guide me on how to resolve this issue?
What is the advantage f this compared to having a giant box.. and having the Arturia step pro as a sequencer.. Does the Arturia has a better or worst sequencer, arpeggiator?
This is the way….!
I got a Nifty Keys as the base for my first experiment with Eurorack.
Cool! Good luck!!
Finally? Wasn’t there a Waldorf case that came out a few years ago? 🤔🤓
yup
Smh, you gotta keep watching
@@JorbLovesGear dont you have the waldorf case? Yeah the first thing he says is, "i know there are other cases"
@@atetraxx yup, keep watching 👀😅
@@JorbLovesGear I have to say hi to you, Bo told me to.
I still love my Niftykeyz, but man I really wish the 4-voice polyphony had some better allocation options. I would much prefer either lowest or oldest key priority so that notes don't get stolen when I play a bass line under a melody.
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Incredible idea, waiting for it , but too expensive, I give it 200 dollar 250 at max
I like it. But I will wait for the 73 keys version ;-)
Just like my Moog, just more keys :)
Great review as ever 👍 I would love to start in the world of the rack anyone point me in the right direction video or article ie what units to by first cheers paul.
Noir Et Blanc Vie had an excellent series on starting with modular
Wow, all out media blitz day for this product I guess. Those looking at this as an entry to eurorack need to seriously consider the longer term cost of modules as related to control surface (keyboard) and racking. If the form factor/nostalgia/similar are a primary factor then this looks compelling. At the same time a keystep pro + Doepfer 6UX86 or Behringer Go case are not much more for significantly more capability and, for the Doepfer, better power.
Keystep pro is 450 euro here, which puts it pretty close to the entire KEYZ. But you are right: eurorack means you have plenty of options to choose from. This is one option.
And no media blitz at all. There was what, 3 youtubers making a video. Robin, myself and Nick.
@@BoBeats Perhaps you underestimate your well earned reputation and reach in the community? My only point was for one jumping in to seriously consider the implications of saving $200-$300 up front.
Just doesn’t look right having all these cables over the keys! You could build a very expensive keyboard with this, mind! Not my cup of tea. Modular takes patience and love for the tech genre. Hats of for showing it off in a cool way Bo.
you could easily cable manage away the cables. It is just me that is messy and lazy 😅👌
If only I were rich this would be mine tomorrow.
@@BoBeats ha! No you can’t, Modular with no cables? Let’s be real….
When we can see some eating videos from you? 😁
those cables sure look yummy
It's only problem is that you can't access the keys when a cable mess is blocking it
Gotto cable manage that! I’m not a good role model for this tho 😅👌
Is there a bag/case that would fit? Either from cre8audio or other companies?
With wheels……
@@spaceman103 no need, i can carry 7kg on my own 😅
@@JohnTrasher I’m getting old. But don’t forget to take the extra weight of the modules in account!
Must stop looking at eurorack!!!
So, bye bye to the Minilogue? :P
haha you could totally build an expensive minilogue with this case
great video as usual thank you. Good product but the price is as much as a whole synthesizer .
In the world of modular this is pretty cheap for the features!
It's only 600quid though
A case for people that hate modular.😂 The cable over keyboard issue indicates that things haven’t been thought out. If you want something that works rather than just eye candy, just get a keystep with your modular. Money saved and cable issue solved.
made a joke in the vid about my cable mess. A smarter person would just use shorter cables lol 😅👍
want to say here about audio clearing you used for your voice audio in this video - it's has toooo aggressive settings, net pleasant for my ears at least. at the phrase stopped - next is so empty sound, possibly without any signal, like total silence. usually in your videos you have some music, so it's not as hearing as in this video.
Thanks for the feedback!
The keys aren't fatar? For 600 euros that's a really big downside IMHO.
Ok i am now 666. 😢
It's not affordable, furthermore it's extremely expensive as there is nothing but an empty synth case without instrument.
description in one word: overpriced. It is a basic midi keyboard which costs around 100-250 USD with a slightly bigger case and a power supply. Why does it cost 600? There is no other reason that there are not many options on the market. I hope behringer loosens up this market.
TBF an Intellijel 104HP Palette (roughly equivalent space) plus the 1U MIDI to CV module for it would set you back the same amount. And then you’d still need the MIDI controller, an LFO module, and a slew limiter module to get all the functions out of this case.
That's like saying "a car is overpriced in comparison to a motorcycle." Sure, both have engines and wheels, but the car has 4 seats and air conditioning. In this case, what you're paying the extra money for is a sturdy metal case, polyphonic MIDI/CV converters, arppegiator, built-in mult and mixer and Eurorack power bus.
Far be it for me to say eurorack isnt expensive
But like others have said:
Midi keyboard with arp + midi cv + poly capability + split capability + mixer + usb + mult and more.. that gonna set you back a bit for sure.
Well, you are right to say that if you consider these features than it is a reasonable price. I see it from an engineering point of view. All these "marketing" features cost next to nothing to build. It is an empty case with a midi keyboard. Considering everything you mentioned this should not cost more than 300-350 USD. 600 USD is far too much.
@@repasiv not hating on your comment but the Komplete S49 keyboard is ~ cad $900. How is this a bad deal again?
Great video Bo. This really makes me want to finally get into the Eurorack modular world. As I am someone who enjoys multi function gear and keyboards. Pray for me and my wallet 🥲