Copyright Shenanigans & Unnecessary Drama
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- čas přidán 29. 08. 2024
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That wagon looks amazing- love the little details like the lantern and rolled-up blanket!
Thanks :)
I agree, the wagons look amazing and I can't wait till you put out the video and make the pdfs available.
It's mad because loads of people use that same piece of music for their channels... arguably if it's that similar then Kevin Macleod should be copyright striking them! Love the channel, your tutorials are amazing!
It really isn't that similar at all in my opinion (though I have e-mailed Kevin - just to make him aware).
Just on principle, to teach the music industry that they aren't untouchable, Kevin should get the video pulled. Although, on the other side of the issue, I do wonder if the members of band of the more recent song are even involved at all? It is entirely possible, likely even, that some copyright lawyer troll at the recording label is actually behind this, acting on behalf of their client...
Not sure if he can get it pulled...depends on the creative Commons license he posted under. Once it is creative Commons, anyone can use it, I think, but I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice or council.
Just a quick comment to let you know how much I enjoyed the 2.5D Print and Paste time machine vid you posted next year as part of your H G Wells Steam Punk build-along series. It was going to be have been awesome.
Looking back, I loved the way my own efforts are going to turn out.
I should apologise retrospectively for the cease and desist claim I served on you in 2026 for unauthorised use of the term Steam Punk which I am going to copyright last year.
😂
Copyright stuff on YT is so annoying, hope you don’t have too many issues moving forward! So unbelievably stoked to make that wagon!
Thanks for the video! Sorry for the troubles. Those wagons are looking sweet. Hang in there!
Thanks - and yeah... I figured the best way forward was to do this little test... and see what happens.
(I've also made a different 'unlisted' one - just to see what happens there too)
dont let this slow your progression toward epicness of crafting, keep strong, summon more paper
Hopefully it's just a hurdle.
I have been using almost nothing but YT studio music and Incompetech for years because those there the only songs I thought were 100% not able to trigger the copyright system. Any other song, even if it's a public domain song with performance rights in the public domain I always test. It's absolutely nuts that this happened to you. That stinks and I am sorry you are having this issue. I started monetizing my channel back in the day because people kept using public domain music to falsely claim advertising on videos that got a certain amount of views. It's awful that there are still issues with public domain stuff. Lud and Schlatt did a couple of really nice music that hasn't hit any of the automated systems yet.
Yeah, I thought I was safe using Incompetech stuff (and I think/hope it will all be OK once someone actually looks at it - fingers crossed).
None of my videos have ever been 'flagged' during the upload process (they always go through the 'checking' stage fine) - so I'm hoping (or maybe it's wishful thinking) that this is just a one-off random occurrence - because, like I say in the video, I use this intro music on pretty much my entire back catalogue.
That being said, I have to admit that it has caused a certain amount of unnecessary worry.
Kris, we who have enjoyed all of your content support you. I for one will campaign against CZcams for their atrocious behaviour towards legitimate content while allowing others to post blatant violations of not just CZcams rules but Human Rights.
On the lighter note, I cannot wait to make some of those carts. They look amazing. You are a master!
This is a very odd one... I mean does CZcams expect us to be clairvoyant now... does it expect us to be able to predict what tunes might be produced in the future? lol (I would have thought that the system wouldn't allow for retroactive nonsense like this).
Seriously though, glad you like the carts (I think they've turned out pretty nice :) ).
All of your videos are amazing. Don't let anything ever stop you. Its madness that youtube cant see the obvious reality of the situation. We will always support you and you fantastic channel.
Thanks for the kind words :)
It is maddening, any sound you make can be similar to a copyrighted material even if you don’t know it is. I was thinking about making a few rhythmical notes for my video….but after I got slapped at my digital store for having a trademarked tagged. I’m paranoid.
Yeah... in this case we also need to look into the future and make sure we don't use something that hasn't been written yet (it really is absurd).
I agree. The wagon & cart look very nice.
so frustrating to hear that you’re having to deal with this. your stuff is always a joy to see, creative and fun and you’re one of my favorite creators on yt. thanks for everything you do!
I have to admit that it has been rather frustrating... and it looks as though the music company are just gonna let the timer lapse on my dispute - rather than addressing the actual issue... so hopefully things will go back to normal in... let me check...
16 days (i.e. when their chance to counter/refute my dispute expires) 🙄
it is ridiculous, and unfair. i don’t want to see your vids disappear either-they honestly always put a smile on my face!
fingers crossed that this gets sorted in such a way that it’s no longer going to be a concern hovering around in the back of your head and that you can get back to simply having a good time sharing vids with us.
Love the wagons. Soon as I get a printer that doesn't put a 1" wide streak down my pages, I'm gonna be busy!
Glad you like 'em (and good luck with the printer... they can be temperamental beasts at the best of times 😅)
We are here for you! Wagons look awesome!
No worries, man. We’ll still be here once you get everything settled. Keep up the great work!
Here's hoping all the videos will still be here lol :)
But yeah - hopefully I'm worrying about nothing.
It just makes no sense that someone can make a video using all the photos or video clips from whatever the source material is but god forbid if you include music or other audio content along with it...anyway, I really appreciate all the time you put into these awesome projects for our enjoyment.
Yeah - the fact that I'm using creative commons music (to supposedly avoid such nonsense), has got me rethinking things a little.
Glad you're enjoying the content though - that's always good to hear :)
Beautiful workmanship!
Looking forward to watching more videos!
Woah, sweet looking wagons! Hope that copyright nonsens clears up!
Thanks!
Something I have learned with my CZcams channel, the Tristram theme from the first diablo game never gets tagged in the system.
None of the videos I've ever uploaded have been initially tagged by CZcams itself. This seems to be a targeted take down by a 'media company' (though probably still a bot in all likelihood).
My favorite video game track of all time.
Time to sue youtube
Hope you don’t have any more issues! That cart n wagon looks awesome 😊
Fingers crossed :) (glad you like the new stuff too - with any luck the video will be out sometime next week)
Please keep up the good fight, you are amazing and the things you create are beautiful. We'd all be worse off without your videos.
I don't plan on going anywhere :) - it's just a bit annoying when unnecessary hurdles (like this) are put in the way :(
It's things like this that make it not fun for you, and I think fun is an important motivator for any creative project. But there are also people out there who understand, sympathise, and want you to enjoy your making stuff and posting videos to yt.
If it's just writing a message, its at least one tini-tiny bit of support I can give you. I hopet hat sometimes its fun to know other people enjoy your creations.@@CrookedStaffTerrain
Cool looking wagon. Of course, I will have to make a second one that been ransacked. Plot hook to get the party to leave the road and investigate. Was it goblins, orcs, ogres or ... *_worst?_*
...probably worse... it usually is :)
Looks amazing! You aren't the only one that I follow currently dealing with this.
Yeah - I have spoken with a few folks that have experienced something similar :(
Good luck sir. CZcams can be such a headache.
That it can (though I've been using much stronger language this past week :) ).
Looks great I think you could probably cut off just below the window to make an open wagon as well using the textures you already have available.
There'll be a long strip of a plain 'side texture' in the pdf - so we can make everything from little hand carts to large open topped wagons :)
The wagons look amazing Kris, good luck with the copyright strikes.
Thanks on both accounts :)
Hope it all works out
Very nice wagons!
Take a spoon and tap out some random clinks on a glass or cup, that can be your tune...
I know its only a joke (and I appreciate it 🙂 ) - but unfortunately, due to the way the system is set up... it seems that if a similar tune is released in the future (by some other musician), they can still (retroactively) do a (false) copyright claim 🤨 (which is an ever bigger joke if you ask me).
They look awesome!
It's really awful with this kind of abuse, even if it might not always be deliberate. In patent law, it's unfortunately rather common with similar practices which are quite deliberate, and CZcams seems to be full of cases where both copyright claimants and Google themselves demonetize or claim revenues streams from content which isn't theirs. Sure, there are valid claims too, but I've seen surprisingly many cases similar to yours.
Yeah, it's far from ideal - and the system seems open for abuse. Hopefully it will all sort itself out in the end (otherwise, like I say, I'll have to start making some changes :( ).
Wagons look awesome, Kris, and looking forward to the "How to" vid. Oh, as far as shenanigans - thank, Lars (I blame everything on him 😂)
Lars? as in Ulrich?
@@CrookedStaffTerrain lol, yeah (harking back to the old Napster days - and their involvement with all of that)
@@craigstephenson1050I thought as much :)
Good luck!
Keep the good work, my man! :)
Will do!
Oh wow! Not the copyrighted but publicly available (to content creators who don't profit his his work) music of Kevin MacLeod! That is like... most of CZcams videos out there! That would be like Gunship cracking down on Twitch or M83 cracking down on TikTok. Damn!
Yeah... even if someone has only ever watched a handful of CZcams videos, then it's still pretty likely that they've heard some of Kevin's music.
Wow! Those wagons look great!!
Been trying to break into YouTubing myself and finding music is probably the hardest part of the whole thing. Wagons look great btw.
Historically, the Kevin MacLeod / incompetech stuff has been a great source (and still is) since it's released under a creative commons attribution licence.
Like and comment for the algorithm :D
Good luck with the copyright dispute and all things around that!
:) Thanks!
I love the Wagon design! But I noticed you one that's untextured, is it possible to post that one as well as a template for us to texture ourselves?
Anyways, love your work and I hope this issue gets resolved very soon
The untextured versions are just very early prototypes to help me figure out all the shapes - they rarely match the final 'product' (for want of a better word).
So far this one is still up. 😀
Yep... fingers crossed that it stays that way :)
buena suerte con el experimento, esperemos que haya sido solo un incidente aislado.
Let's hope so!
If this nonsense continues, it's probably worth switching your intro song going forward. It's absurd and unfair, but sadly small creators don't have a whole lot of influence or power in these situations.
If it does continue, it's probably best to just not use any music at all (because, even if I went ahead and made something completely new and original myself - someone could still come up with something vaguely similar in the future, and then do the exact same retroactive false claim nonsense all over again*).
*I'd probably get any copyright claim reversed - but I'd still have all the dispute nonsense to deal with, and 'they' would likely have zero repercussions.
This video has remained up though - so I'm hoping it won't be an ongoing problem (fingers crossed).
Please let your fans know if there is anything we can do in support of your channel. is there a way to contact CZcams to let them know what the CZcams community thinks of nonsense like this?
I don't think there is anything anyone can do I'm afraid (thanks all the same though :) )... it's firmly in the hands of those making the copyright claim (they have 30 days to respond to my dispute... and so far I've not heard anything for over a week).
I don’t understand this nonsense
Sorry it’s happening to you.
Love your videos 😊😊😊
Thanks (and yeah... it's a little bit insane really).
@@CrookedStaffTerrain you are welcome 🤗
Definitely insane!!!
I got claimed a ton back in the day using the same stuff. The claimant was the same account CZcams screen shot and puts in their example of a false claim *facepalm*
Did it all get sorted out in the end?
@@CrookedStaffTerrain I did the thing where you can say it's not copyright. You get a scary warning about how your channel could be deleted, but I don't see how because the claimant is the one who decides if the claim is real for.. reasons? They did take the claim off though
So somebody released a song this year. And is flagging videos from years ago, for copyright infringements? That's bonkers... Nice wagons though. At a glance I thought you made horses too. Then I opened my eyes properly.
It is indeed bonkers (and many stronger words besides). You would like to think that the system couldn't be abused that way.
Bonkers was my polite choice. Sorry you have to go through all that hassle.
Stupid CZcams.
I claim this video and all its revenue for the internet gods, nuffle, SpaceKing and myself! Hand over the booty!!! ;)
That's probably about as valid as the actual copyright claim :)
@@CrookedStaffTerrainprobably. I'm happy that my youtubes are just for fun and not for a living. They can claim all they want. XD
@@SomeDudeOnCZcams They actually took the video in question down for several days (and it might disappear for good if I have to escalate the dispute and go on to lose). And if I do that 3 times... I lose the whole channel.
Another problem is that someone might pay a couple of dollars (or whatever) for a pdf (expecting there to be an accompanying video)... and then not be able to access the video in question. If that were me I'd be a little annoyed.
But here's hoping that a real live person gets to look at the claim and sees the ridiculousness of it all :)
@@CrookedStaffTerrain Ah sorry, got it confused with "copyright infringement" Fingers crossed all turns out well :) I could start a thread about possible backup solutions and alternative video platforms but I'm sure you've already looked into those subjects. Cheers mate!
@@SomeDudeOnCZcamsYeah, the unfortunate reality is that everyone uses CZcams (though if videos start disappearing on a regular basis I'll have to start uploading in other places too)
But like I say - here's hoping it's a one-off thing (though I am kinda tempted to not use any music at all going forward - just to deny them the opportunity of doing anything like this on future videos).
I read about your problems, and yeah, it's total bollocks. However, there are some people behind the automation, and they are usually very helpful and understanding. You just have to be lucky, I guess, to get them to notice and take care of your problem. Because it should just be taken care of, and you should just be able to go on without problems. Crossing my fingers!
I think it's more likely that they'll just ignore the dispute... and let the 30 day timer run out (in which case I'll 'win' the appeal by default). It's been a week now since the initial 'take down' ...and still no word.