Rally Raid Honda CB500X "Adventure" Engine Guard Mounting
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- čas přidán 6. 08. 2024
- Pete and I install the Rally Raid engine guard on the 2013 Honda CB500X. This is the first step to "Adventurizing" the CB 500X as it allows you to safely lift the bike.
Rally Raid UK.
www.rally-raidproducts.co.uk/
Giant Loop, Bend Ore. will be the U.S. Distributor for Rally Raid UK
giantloopmoto.com/
Follow Jenny Morgan's Trans-Am 500 CB500X TAT adventure on ADVRider here...
advrider.com/forums/showthread...
Thanks for making these Rally Raid videos. It’s given me the confidence to do it myself. I installed my new RR engine guard yesterday. It was hard, but I did it. My mantra through the whole installation: “DO NOT CROSS-THREAD THE ENGINE MOUNT BOLTS”. I kept saying that to myself as a reminder to have patience and do it right.
Great Video! Thanks for sharing! Hope to see you video yourself putting the rest of the Rally Raid kit on your bike! :-) Love seeing your son help out! Mine does too quite often when I wrench.
***** Thanks! Looking forward to doing the Stage 3 video soon...
It looks like you had the Puig engine guard on there. Wondering....would that have fit alongside the RR bash plate? Even with modifications?
Thank you :-). Excellent and informative video.
Let's see a build from Pete, he seems more than a capeable little wrench. Nice job, it's a one off, nice custom touches, and attention to detail.
Stby for high front fender update starring Pete on the wrench.
Hey Cruz...can you post the link to your Australian Distributor for Rally Raid?
Your footpegs make me gasp. Nice work.
Morning Bill!
I could repair or replace the older crash bars, sounds like they have some rust inside. I wonder if they oiled the inside of their tubing?
I think I'll just run without them for now, I question how effective they would be in an actual hard dumping.
Your video is the best resource I've seen that clearly shows the installation of RR's engine guard. I just installed one yesterday on my 2014 CB500x. It's a shame that shipping is so expensive from Europe to the USA for this product ($112.00 to Southern Oregon). BTW, "Giant Loop" (located in Bend, Oregon) no longer distributes Rally Raid products. You need to deal direct with Rally Raid now.
The instructions I recieved with the guard has a good tip for aligning the frame tubes with the engine bolt holes. Use a ratchet strap attached at the rear footrest hanger to the frame tube. Cinch it down tight while looking through the hole until everything lines up. It worked great. I didn't have to fight it at all.
Several people have asked about oil changes. I read a great suggestion (www.cb500x.com/) to install a Fumoto valve with a drain tube to eliminate the necessity of removing the main guard to change the oil. I would post a picture but cannot find a way to do it here in the "comment" section. Install an extension adapter to the valve, then a piece of 3/8 I.D. vinyl tube and a 90 degree brass fitting at the end. The vinyl tube is cut so the length extends just beyond the back of the guard (skid plate). The brass fitting is twisted into the up position until you need to change the oil, then simply twist the fitting down to drain into a pan. It may sound complicated, but if I could post a picture you'd see that it's very simple. Here is what you need to order:
Fumoto F109N Oil Pan Drain Valve, 12-1.5 Thread Pitch And also an extension/adaptor: ADP-109: 1/2" EXTENSION ADAPTER FOR 12MM-1.5 VALVE
The vinyl tubing and 90 degree brass fitting can be purchased at any hardware store.
I've gotten a ton of benefit from instruction videos here on youtube and I hope the information I provided here today might be of some help to someone else.
Thanks for posting these videos. They are very helpful.
Thanks RDW
great video. how well does the rally raid engine protect the pipes in case the front tire should kick up a stone?
Looks good. Do you have a good option to replace the cracked engine guards that is compatible with these other new bits?
Back in the day, Harley riders would put a mudflap in front of the rear tire, almost touching the ground. The reason was that if you run over a nail with the front tire, dieresis a 50/50 chance it will flip up and skewer the rear tire. The flap would knock it out of the way.
Wow do you have to go through all that when you do a oil change? ??
Great video Juan, with good detail. It pays when you take us through each little detail, along with your own thoughts. Did you have any problems with the existing metric or standard, both allen and hex, bolt heads in relation to a tight fit on the wrench. I've done a lot of engine rebuilds and such and getting into re-threading engine casting holes and especially allen bolt holes not being a tight fit causing stripping in the bolt head is a pain in the butt, and that's putting it lightly. It looks like they engineered and bent the engine guard pretty close to matching the bolt pattern. Sometimes you don't get that lucky, like on headers, and you have to some mods yourself. Looking for a used CB500 or possibly new and trying to get through some of the details.
Jerry bolted right up once got frame in postion per the video.
Pete's awesome!
What video does Jenny talk about the forward engine mount bolts and converting to through bolts?
Good video. Does anyone tried to fit this rally raid again with centre stand? On models 20192021.thx
Great video man. What make & size is that rear tyre?
Enjoy.
@blancolirio I am installing this as well on my 2021. I also have an exhaust to swap. Should I do that before the engine guard or does it matter?
i wonder how you can get the wheel out if you get a flat whiteout center stand
The sensor before the cat is an oxygen sensor. It provides rich/lean data to the engine control unit (ECU) to help in fuel control through the fuel injection.
Thanks Tom!
Were you able to mount the engine guard back on with the new skid plate? Need to protect the sump and the radiator
Hey there. I've got another question for you. Since the RR Engine Guard utilizes the same mounting points as a tank guard (ex, Givi, SW-Motech), do you wish you had the option to throw on tank guards? Also how much protection does this add if you happen to lay down the bike on a trail?
+SidecarBandit I don't think the tank guards would add much additional protection, I think they'll just fold into the tank and possibly cause more damage.
With barkbusters and the RRP Engine guard the bike can be dumped without scratching the tank (ask me how I know- lol). Very tough design unlike more expensive bikes....cheap to replace parts too (if necessary)
+blancolirio thanks!
You've been great source of information.
How did you add your barkbuster storm guards without interference? I put mine on and took hours to do it as perfectly as I could. But the bars contact the windscreen at steering. So I had to lower my windscreen to where I didn't want it.
Bar risers?
Bar risers may help, I recommend them for better ergonomics while standing and riding off road.
You can trim a bit from the wind screen and plastic part of the Barkbuster.
Are the spoked wheels in the Rally Raid product designed to run tubeless tires or do you have to run tubes?
+mitch bailey In order to keep costs on check, the spoke wheels are designed to run tubes.
Can you get to the oil drain plug through one of those little V cut outs?
NURide Don't know yet...I doubt it. I'll do an oil change and video the process with the new bash plate and see how it goes. Probably just as easy to drop the rear of the bash plate.
Nice set up!!!. One big pain in the ass is when you change . Let us know how that goes.
Mitchell Collins Change the oil? I wanna video that process with the RR guard on....just drop the rear pin and drain it. Pull the filter cover and replace it. No need to mess w/ fwd attch bolts.
Great video. Did that slotted heat shield come with the RR skid plate/engine guard? Thanks again.
Professor cbX yep!
blancolirio > Nice buddy. I'll be ordering mine soon. The good news is Rally Raid is makin em as orders come in. The bad is there's a two to three week wait. Must be a good product if it doesn't stay on the shelf.
Professor cbX yes, small compant, great product!
Was it possible keep the previous guards in addition to the new rally raid guard?
nope.
are you able to run say the givi engine guards along with the rally raid bash plate?
+John MacFann with some minor modification...maybe a little grinding and perhaps longer bolts...Others have.
+blancolirio okay awesome thank you. great build by the way. Good little helper you have there too.
This engine guard is great!! But can you use the same time and the central stand???
No.
That's not good then. I thought you can still fit them both same time riad and stand.
@@pb6003 the Rally Raid actually uses the same slot the centre stand bolt goes through. That's partly why it's so much better at protecting the underside. You can also use a Jack to lift the bike with Rally raid. My SW Motech works with the center stand, but it isn't as sturdy as the RR.
How did I not know about your channel. Great bike great gear. Where abouts do you ride with her?
Jack Themuss Thanks, just got this one, gonna be my long range adventure bike going on similar adventures to what I've already posted. Stuff out west, off road.
I'm going back and watching your CB500X videos. That bike deserves more attention than it gets. I've been really tempted to go look at one, but I also can't wait to see the Africa Twin. However, I'm sure the Twin will have a commensurate price to along with it.
Was the engine guard included in the price of the stage three?
giff74 Go check 'em out, cheap to buy on the used market too. The Rally Raid engine guard is NOT included in the Stage 3 kit, but is essential. Not only for protection but to support the bike during the conversion as the stock center stand is removed. (too short after conversion).
Check out my 'unboxing' video and I cover what is and is not included in the Stage 3 Rally Raid kit, and what else you may need or want to fully "Adventurize" your Honda CB500X.
czcams.com/video/_mowjawhrZg/video.html
Hmm, how much of a pain is it to change the oil then? The oil filter cover is just two bolts to remove, but dropping the whole bash plate just to change the oil after the installation you just described - no thanks !!! Or does unbolting the back end and swinging it down provide enough access? Hopefully this would not involve loosening the front engine/frame bolts too, since that would involve breaking and redoing the loctite, and retorquing the bolts. No thanks to that as well.
Did the engine sag at all when you removed the engine guards?
no, but the frame springs out a bit. Pull it back in with a strap so you don't have to muscle it like I did here.
What is the dry weight of this bike with the RR kit installed?
gargantuandick Don't know yet...It will weigh a bit more than stock . I did weigh the rear RR spoke wheel w/ HD tube and TKC 80 tire....it was 7 lbs heavier than stock tubeless tire and wheel.
This may be a little too late but do you still have the center stand? Can i buy it off you?
Sold!
blancolirio your little guy seems to be a futur engineer in progress :) At his age I remeber of playing a lot with Lego Technic toys (www.lego.com/en-us/technic/products), perhaps it'd be fun for him too. Anyway, nice report about the Rally Raid kit.
sucotronic Yea! Pete (3) loves puzzles and Lego Mixles, hot wheels, and model trains right now. Amazing eye hand skills and patience for three...
As a Honda lover, there are just too much compromising here to create deal breakers for me. I forecast high speed vibrations here and pulling the lower guard to change oil - pass.
Muito bom
Is it possible to install the longer sidestand as well as a third party bash plate, so that a local welding shop could lengthen the stock center stand? What i mean is there any way to keep the stock center stand?
Morning Alex.
I assume you are talking about a full level 2/3 conversion? i.e. raising the bike?
Yes, you can install the RRP extended kickstand BUT can the 3rd party bashplate fully support the bike to do the conversion in the first place? Will a 3rd party bash plate also use the sturdy center stand mount? When bashing through rock gardens you really don't want a center stand, but I know how convenient they are...maybe consider a level 1 conversion with a 3rd party bash plate and stock center stand for mild adventuring....JB
Hi JB,
thank you for the quick reply. I was just curious to know wheter or not they are exclusive. I am dabbling with the thought of buying the kit, but its doubtfull at best if the german vehicle control will pass the conversion in the first place. Kinda envy the american approach. Do you recon a 17" spoked wheel is valid anyways? For most gravel and slightly rocky roads they might be, right?
Yes, and the 17" spoke wheels are now available at Rally Raid and Giantloopmoto.com
That is pretty exciting. Do you have a planned date to test the Stage 2 Conversion?
Level 2 conversion reviewed here czcams.com/video/75IRr2oirow/video.html
I'm looking forward to doing a complete level 1 build video and review soon.
What tires do you have on?
BIKER SPACE when this was shot I had a used D606 rear (not good) and the stock Pirelli Scorpion in the front. The hot set up is Continental TKC 80's with tubes. Also consider Shinko 'big block' tires much cheaper...
Does anyone make a decent off-road radiator guard ?
Island Dreaming I found one on eBay from Germany. It’s solid aluminum and it says”CB500X “ on it
No upper crash bar seems risky to me. Probably could modify the ones you took off to work easy enough.
Meeker Extreme yea, these ones are rusted out already. They also make a great place to locate additional lighting...Jenny's had several good dumps without bars and the bike's fared well....facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1167671459914625&set=a.1129102037104901.1073741832.100000153478798&type=1
blancolirio LOL I saw that picture and didn't realize it was a CBX500. I tend to end up on very difficult trails. It's my nature although I am wanting an adventure bike and start to do more point to point rides and take it easy on my body. It's a shame Honda does not just make an Adventure bike, and before someone says the 650L let's get real it's a great bike but it's so dated my XR650R runs laps around the L. So far I'm considering all adventure bikes from this Honda CBX500 with the Kit (that is a must) or a KTM 1190 R. Hard decision because I even still have the good old KLR650 on my list. Obviously I'm not brand loyal...hehehehe
Meeker Extreme Check out my KTM 690 videos, the ultimate off road oriented adventure bike....but expensive...I've enjoyed 'em all in the 650 size category....DR,KLR, DL,XR,XL, KTM...now the CBX, my next 'touring' bike.
blancolirio Yep, no one has really done any harder CB500X with rally Raid kit videos and that goes for Giant Loop. Sometime it happens you end up on an ATV trail or a short Single Track to cut to something....being Colorado it's very rocky and the headers out front would worry me some. I guess as long as you know they are there you can be more careful. As i said it's on my list...just wish it was a Honda kit then the dealer would probably have it and I could see it in person before committing.
Meeker Extreme Be sure to check out Moab and other technical parts of the TransAm 500 Tour (bike just returned to GL after 50-day, 12,000+ mile, coast-to-coast trip with return on the Trans American Trail. Not a single dent in the headers. www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1061450
The front still looks unprotected, was it worthy ?
Works great! 30,000 miles.
The heat shield, and other silver engine covers would have looked better in Black IMO to match the rest of the bike, as to me they remind me of cut up aluminium cans stuck over the engine.., but then again - I am fussy on appearances.
Kalo crash barnya di pasang lebih bagus tuh bro
i would like to see you break the rear axle nut loose with those tools
"I'm making a video of you, I have the camera" reminds me of my daughter.
i meant engine guard
looks great all but those alloy wheels.....yuk, they look like old Puch moped wheels. you've put some bucks into this bike, get some spokes, it'll look bad ass!
You're right-I did! Check out the RRP level III mods on the channel.
Pete should be about 7 now...
He is!
so you gained nice protection for the engine but lost protection for the side fairings and tank.
ripmax333 a Much more important and better solution for 20,000 miles of actual off road riding. Who cares about scratched plastic?!..a busted oil pan will ruin your day. You need to set your priorities for off road long distance solo riding. Cosmetics ain't one of em.
I fully agree with you in the aspect that in the middle of nowhere i prefer to loose a side fairing instead of a hole in the sump. but after an adventure and returning to normal life it would suck to ride with no fairings and a dent on the tank. they might not be cheap to replace either.
ripmax333 I would sweatit, we've dumped these bikes hard on the trail, no dents.
well it's good to know because were i live the trails are very rocky, its funny now, i once had a cb500f which i got bored with the looks of the bike. now that i passed my full licence i really don't know what bike to look for. I am tempted on the ducati scrambler but it turns out that it might be very expensive, and now here i am looking again on the cb500x.
ripmax333 don't get the Ducati if you really want to go long range adventuring off road. They look cool though....
Crappy bash plate design if you have to remove the centre stand :(
.., surely they could have made a better design than that ?
If you say "bits" one more time ...
lol, hanging out in the UK too much.