Yes agree , they need to work on their qc. Me & my mate bought a new gen 2 sdr , his within 1 months got so so many problem , mine already 5 yrs no problem.
Buying KTMs can be hit and miss. Some say they had no issues with them, others keep them mostly in service. Me and my buddies had a lot of issues with our KTM super adventure 2021/2022 : misfire issue, cooling liquid leakage, clutch issues, fuel leakage and a LOT of electronic errors. But the most frustrating thing was the lack of support from KTM. Buying the KTM felt like like a scam for me. One year with the bike in service and no one to speak with from KTM and dealership. they totally ignored me. Lost one year of warranty which no one is willing to extend, and a bike with a poor service history that is hard to sell... Wasted 20000 euros for a bucket of bolts....
Dang, that's a healthy amount of power in a bike that already was a super punchy bike. Looking forward to see how it compares to the other Hypernakeds!
At first i was wtf is wrong with headlights ?! Where is the rest of it, but now suddenly i feel like it is such a badass design, very unique and predatory, just imagine those headlights at night coming fast behind you while you are driving your car.
@@grtbgf No, they don't just double it. They probably have years of experience with their own engines and statistics on how often valves need adjustment.
Did you know that KTM gives you a puppy for each bike that you buy ? So that you have something to play with when the bike is constantly in service for repairs :))
And this is with Euro5 Emissions. Uncorked (flash & slip-on) I bet this thing makes atleast 210-215hp. And I wondered when that Holeshot device from MotoGP would make it to the streetbikes. Thank you KTM & WP. I want one
Well, why don’t you wait a bit longer and get the 2L version with 300hp 😂 They are getting ridiculous with the HP wars, how many people can actually ride these beasts to their limit? Unless you’re a professional rider….chances are the first generation is more than enough
@@theodoremarakas9899 exactly my point. Useless. Everyone would have more control,more fun, and become much better riders if they choose 390 duke instead.
Thanks for your initial review Bob. I agree with the paint as I also prefer the blue and orange from the previous generation. However, I think KTM are mindful of this and will add this option in 2025. I also prefer the look of the updated headlight assembly and its functionality and can’t wait to see one up close. I also like the reduced bar height which should allow for better rider’s connection to the front wheel.
The headlight looks futuristic but sans glass cover, it can accumulate lot of dust and dirt inside of that cavities, makes the projectors to be cleaned often.....a bad idea 😢
the 1390 is in the middle of the pack on HP but it's got 22nm of torque more than 2nd place.. & i wouldn't be surprised you can squeeze a few more hp or atleast shift the power curve around the rpm a bit with exhaust, de-emission, & ecu tuning.
Hello all, I’ve got the 2020 bike with full Akra, I sat on this bike in the dealers two days ago, you will not believe the difference in the feel of the front end. Please sit on one and experience it. Regards Joe.
The visual distinction between the R and the R Evo is subtle yet obvious, once you've seen it: blue rings instead of red ones on the forks, and no preload knob at the rear (duh). It has been like that since the first Evo was released. Two years ago. And you are the one with the PDF...
WOW - love it! Just hope they also work on the design of the GT version. The current one is just horrible to look at. I can say that cuz I have one (well, a gen1)… Don’t see myself riding around on a naked bike, so a better looking GT would be a great update that I would want to buy. Otherwise not for me.
195hp "guys, if we make RC8 available on the market, its too dangerous on the streets" "also heres 195HP on a 200 dryweight bike thats available as streetlegal, its safe on the roads guys" PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD KTM, RELEASE THE RC8
The fact that its gonna make more torque than the supercharged H2 is insane and should have Kawasaki worried, shows that Ktm is the baddest when it comes to naked bikes. Its not about HP, if you want HP buy a super sport. If you want torque, buy a KTM🤙🏼
Hi Bob not sure you used the BMW shift cam Tec in the beginning Then only graphed the S1000r without it should have used the M1000r with 205 hp at 13,000 rpm and 83 lb-ft at 11,100 rpm apart from that good video
I just picked up my 2nd Gen 3 with the £3k off and 4yr warranty knowing this was coming and no regrets. Some nice updates for when i swap in a couple of years and i hope they'll be another colour option by then.
The stacked headlights were on the a Duke 690, end of noughties & looked good there. It's a pity the KaTy people didn't program a 360° wheelie-control, 180's just don't cut it anymore.... 😎😉
I have owned 2 gen 1 1290r, didn’t like the gen 2, contemplated buying the gen 3 but didn’t, but this one, oh yes, there is nothing on this new one I don’t like, fantastic machine, can’t wait to take one out for a test ride.
The looks aren't for me, but I have to give KTM props for doing something different and really pushing their unique design language (looking at you, Honda Streetfi- um, CB1000)
1350cc ? ! LOL ! Those are ROOKIE numbers ! Better pump those up ! Seriously tho...190HP from a N/A 2 cylinder 1350cc engine it's crazy. Those Austrians know what they're doing. 😊👍 Thanks, Bob, for all your hard work pushing these news out the door ASAP. P.S: I prefer the new Transformers Face headlight over the previous Gen model Insect Head.
The list that shows hp ranking also shows its torque figures. For the KTM its 145Nm, which is highest of the lot. 😮
at the lowest rpm no less!
I completely agree that the blue and orange is the best colour SDR ever.
Be aware guys,
The "R" on KTM models stands for Repair.
Don't get me wrong, they built amazing bikes, but the reliability issue need to be fixed asap.
Yes agree , they need to work on their qc.
Me & my mate bought a new gen 2 sdr , his within 1 months got so so many problem , mine already 5 yrs no problem.
Yep, my 2023 SDR-EVO does not like the KTM Akra exhaust map. All kinds of TFT failures.
Completely agree, amazing bike but there is way too many people out there with lots of issues..KTM = Keep Taking Money
No issues with mine after 2 years
Buying KTMs can be hit and miss. Some say they had no issues with them, others keep them mostly in service.
Me and my buddies had a lot of issues with our KTM super adventure 2021/2022 : misfire issue, cooling liquid leakage, clutch issues, fuel leakage and a LOT of electronic errors.
But the most frustrating thing was the lack of support from KTM.
Buying the KTM felt like like a scam for me. One year with the bike in service and no one to speak with from KTM and dealership. they totally ignored me. Lost one year of warranty which no one is willing to extend, and a bike with a poor service history that is hard to sell... Wasted 20000 euros for a bucket of bolts....
I’m a big fan of the new headlight, KTM definitely set themselves apart with the design profile but many will appreciate it myself included.
It reminds me of the new Suzuki design language, with stacked headlights
It's reminiscent of the 2008 KTM 690 Duke.
@@Greddi both horrible, imo
It's bloody mad. God some people are conservative!
@@EJK1965....or, perhaps they can forsee what it will be like cleaning the bugs out of there...
Headlights is very goood! Fits for the character of the motorbike
Dang, that's a healthy amount of power in a bike that already was a super punchy bike. Looking forward to see how it compares to the other Hypernakeds!
At first i was wtf is wrong with headlights ?! Where is the rest of it, but now suddenly i feel like it is such a badass design, very unique and predatory, just imagine those headlights at night coming fast behind you while you are driving your car.
36.000miles / 60.000 km valve check intervals was a nice update.
You honestly believe they can just double it from 30 to 60?
@@grtbgf No, they don't just double it. They probably have years of experience with their own engines and statistics on how often valves need adjustment.
@@neilAneerGAmAI probably.. and it probably isnt gonna prove correct in the long run
@@grtbgf Time will show ✌️
The headlight design has really grown on me. It fits the character of the Duke. Overall changes is great improvements in my book.
Did you know that KTM gives you a puppy for each bike that you buy ?
So that you have something to play with when the bike is constantly in service for repairs :))
And this is with Euro5 Emissions. Uncorked (flash & slip-on) I bet this thing makes atleast 210-215hp. And I wondered when that Holeshot device from MotoGP would make it to the streetbikes. Thank you KTM & WP. I want one
I follow your channel from India. We get a good perspective of what is happening outside. Keep up the good work 👍
2:10 there's also the M1000R which is 200hp
It is just a little underpowered for street use.
I am waiting for 1590r evo termignoni edition with 240hp.
exactly, this is a good first bike for someone who just passed their license.
Well, why don’t you wait a bit longer and get the 2L version with 300hp 😂
They are getting ridiculous with the HP wars, how many people can actually ride these beasts to their limit? Unless you’re a professional rider….chances are the first generation is more than enough
@@theodoremarakas9899 exactly my point. Useless. Everyone would have more control,more fun, and become much better riders if they choose 390 duke instead.
Thanks for your initial review Bob. I agree with the paint as I also prefer the blue and orange from the previous generation. However, I think KTM are mindful of this and will add this option in 2025. I also prefer the look of the updated headlight assembly and its functionality and can’t wait to see one up close. I also like the reduced bar height which should allow for better rider’s connection to the front wheel.
At least the headlight fits better on the 1390 than on the 990
Nice throwback to the original 1290 prototype trailer 👍
HELL YEAH ! 🤘😎👍
Well I love it, love a v twin and love the fact that KTM just do their own thang. Brilliant madness....190hp v twin, mental.😊
Not a big KTM lover, but I really enjoy all of your videos
The backlight design makes it hard to modify, the light needs to be right on the rear
Maybe it's not up on top when it comes to BHP. But look at the Nm. 30 or so more than any of them! And that counts!
Thank you mr Bob!
Yeah but it’s coming from a V twin. So it delivers the power so much more nicely than all 4 cylinders IMHO
@@TheKniperlight Agree! The power from a large capacity V-twin compared to an inline4 screamer, is sooo much more satisfying!
THE BEST motorcycle channel on CZcams, MOTOBOB!
Everyone hate the headlight, but i love it , what i hate is why is the front indicator so high up the handlebar.
They asked Suzuki to design the headlight.
😂
Missing the headlight cover… maybe it comes along with unlocking the rest of the goodies for some extra cash. 😂
The headlight looks futuristic but sans glass cover, it can accumulate lot of dust and dirt inside of that cavities, makes the projectors to be cleaned often.....a bad idea 😢
just wet it
from side : he-man
from front-side : skeletor 🤣
I still adore the design of gen 2 model more
I noted at mc live the new 990 looked better front-on than the 1290, so good to see the new look here.
Nah superduke 1290 is clear of all
Super Duke 1390 is best looking Naked bike in my eyes alongside streetfighter V4 and Rush 1000rr
the 1390 is in the middle of the pack on HP but it's got 22nm of torque more than 2nd place.. & i wouldn't be surprised you can squeeze a few more hp or atleast shift the power curve around the rpm a bit with exhaust, de-emission, & ecu tuning.
Hello all, I’ve got the 2020 bike with full Akra, I sat on this bike in the dealers two days ago, you will not believe the difference in the feel of the front end. Please sit on one and experience it. Regards Joe.
I commend KTM for their continual improvement. Unfortunately, it's not a bike I would like to wake up next to in the morning ;)
Would love the look of this in the husqvarna guise
No BS huh? Bet you have to pay to unlock all the hp and features.
The 2 last riding modes are OPTIONAL which means, BEHIND a Paywall.
The next thing will be to introduce subscriptions with their bikes...
Punches out more torque than anything around
The 1390 looks related to the Suzuki GSX S1000 minus the light halo daytime driving lamp. I love the look though. So nice!!!
Alzheimer’s? Dementia
Used your discount for screen protectors and they are really good quality 👍
The visual distinction between the R and the R Evo is subtle yet obvious, once you've seen it: blue rings instead of red ones on the forks, and no preload knob at the rear (duh). It has been like that since the first Evo was released. Two years ago. And you are the one with the PDF...
In next 5 years KTM will start making Bumblebee and Optimus prime
I have KTM 390…
Without 1000
looks brutal! sick headlight !
Does this mean in wheelie setting "very high" I can let the clutch slip and the bike will hold the very high lean angle endless?
Thanks for the video Bob! Waiting on your review of the RE shotgun release!!
i love the 180 angle setting more, definitely will try if i can find one xD
In my view, KTMs don't look great (including my 890 AR) but they certainly deliver the goods. Function over form. 60k km valve check; that's great.
Those headlights look like a Terminator! Imagine a Decepticon turning into this.
Headlights looks wow wow drop down ❣️
Reminds me of the brown recluse spider that demands attention
FYI: The downforce of the "winglets" is 3kg at 220 kph. Stated by an egineer in an austrian outlet.
Thanks for the info! Not much is it...?
WOW - love it! Just hope they also work on the design of the GT version. The current one is just horrible to look at. I can say that cuz I have one (well, a gen1)… Don’t see myself riding around on a naked bike, so a better looking GT would be a great update that I would want to buy. Otherwise not for me.
195hp
"guys, if we make RC8 available on the market, its too dangerous on the streets"
"also heres 195HP on a 200 dryweight bike thats available as streetlegal, its safe on the roads guys"
PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD KTM, RELEASE THE RC8
The hypocrisy it's over 9000 on their part. 🤦♂️
I flash KTMs at work,
I'm surprised KTM doesn't just have a different Map for discarding Emissions like their EXC/EXCF.
I’m getting one when it arrives in the Philippines
I owned a super Duke gt and 1290r. Awesome engine and cool headlight. I like this light also
All that torque and horsepower below 9500 rpm
The headlight looks like Predator’s face
Male orangutan
@@williamrae9954 yes!
Love it. But will headlight be like a baseball glove and be a fly catcher
Cant get over the headlight but for an evo id need iy inbthe blue and orange colour scheme
ZH2 IS ALL YOU NEED
If you want the heaviest girl at the dance ? Then yes, by all means the Green Transformer !
I’ll wait for the 360 degree wheelie limiter.
The fact that its gonna make more torque than the supercharged H2 is insane and should have Kawasaki worried, shows that Ktm is the baddest when it comes to naked bikes. Its not about HP, if you want HP buy a super sport. If you want torque, buy a KTM🤙🏼
Hi Bob
not sure you used the BMW shift cam Tec in the beginning
Then only graphed the S1000r without it should have used the M1000r with 205 hp at 13,000 rpm and 83 lb-ft at 11,100 rpm apart from that good video
I want to know if you still have to pay to unlock the BS rider modes!
You still have to pay. 😒👎💩
With looks only a mother could love.
KTM is really getting some mileage out of this engine. Good platform to try new tech..
Unbelievable Motorcycle
Was hoping they would hit the 1400cc mark. But honestly I’m sure this bike is plenty powerful
I think they could push it if they want but decided to withhold a bit so that there's a bit more they can go for the next gen
@@lohchenghuat6388probably leaving some meat on the bone for the round of "let's strangle the engine's neck more" a.k.a Euro 6 and what not.
Great review Bob, fantastic piece of engineering. As far as looks go, I think it fell out of the fugly tree
Headlight reminds me of the Predator without the mask.
180degree wheelie control. nice.
I don't like the new headlight, but the rest of the bike looks amazing.
The orange seat is bomb.
I was hoping it would be 1401 cc.
I just picked up my 2nd Gen 3 with the £3k off and 4yr warranty knowing this was coming and no regrets. Some nice updates for when i swap in a couple of years and i hope they'll be another colour option by then.
Why second
@@TheKniperlight had one in 2021.
Why didn’t you include the M1000R in the comparison?
Headlights need some orange decals
Cleaning the bugs off that headlight is going to be a pain they will get stuck
shhh, they dont want you to leak that...
Hii motobob sir big fan ❤❤❤ love you
I shudder to think what this orange goliath is going to cost in the US.
The stacked headlights were on the a Duke 690, end of noughties & looked good there. It's a pity the KaTy people didn't program a 360° wheelie-control, 180's just don't cut it anymore.... 😎😉
By the way... Evo has Blue rings on the forks and standard comes out with Red ring 😎👍🏻
Now check your video...
$21,499 USD. Not much more $ for the updates.
As far as the winglets and added downforce... KTM says they add 6.6 lbs of downforce at 161 mph
So, meh.
Lol at the pic for Wheelie Control off😂😂😂
I'm struggling with that headlight. Will have to ride it to see if the feel makes me forget how that headlight looks.
The Brabus version looks so much better. Why can't we have that with the KTM price.
145nm = 106ft pls of torque. That's what my 91 Harley FXR with an 80in twin put out at the rear wheel. Nice
That headlight looks like a pain to clean.
The headlights doesn't look that good
Most other riders will be far too busy trying to keep up with the new bike to worry about how the front looks. 3:41
*don’t
😂😂
Yeah bro it looks stupid
For you,
Coz you can't afford it.
Yeah, the best paint scheme was the matte blue and orange one.
i like it looks like a preying mantis aggressive looking i want one
🤔 forgot to compare it to BMW M 1000R
I have owned 2 gen 1 1290r, didn’t like the gen 2, contemplated buying the gen 3 but didn’t, but this one, oh yes, there is nothing on this new one I don’t like, fantastic machine, can’t wait to take one out for a test ride.
the best thing I like is the looks ;]
Love it.KTM doing what they do best IMO 👍🏼
"hate" is a strong word... though not nearly strong enough to describe how I feel about the new headlight.
Come on, Bob.... The beast pumps out 145tq, which is more than the competition.
The looks aren't for me, but I have to give KTM props for doing something different and really pushing their unique design language (looking at you, Honda Streetfi- um, CB1000)
My only gripe is that 1390 doesn't roll off the tongue like 1290 does
8:11 Megatron head look like
1350cc ? ! LOL ! Those are ROOKIE numbers ! Better pump those up !
Seriously tho...190HP from a N/A 2 cylinder 1350cc engine it's crazy.
Those Austrians know what they're doing. 😊👍
Thanks, Bob, for all your hard work pushing these news out the door ASAP.
P.S: I prefer the new Transformers Face headlight over the previous Gen model Insect Head.
Nice!
But still love my 2015!!!!
Trust