KTM 1390 Super Duke VS BMW M1000R | Ultimate Head To Head
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- čas přidán 17. 05. 2024
- The KTM 1390 Super Duke has arrived so we borrowed an BMW M1000R to perform the Ultimate super naked shootout!
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That close call scared the crap out of me!
Yep, I flinched!
Me too 😮
Just now saw it, same 💩
Driver was probably trying to dodge a pothole, nearly killed Chopsie in the process.
That was insane
That’s the first ever CZcams video with a jump scare I’ve seen! I nearly laid an egg!!
Choppsey didn't miss a beat either. Other than that reality check, this was a creme de la creme review... So good! Damn Choppsey is such a skilled rider man, I love ur reviews m8. Stay safe out there but let's face it, good chance that person was on their phone literally not driving their car
That car driver was lethal. Was either deliberate, and deserves a prison sentence, or deserves a ban.
Report him chops. What a plank.
@@TheMatthew1967 I would av pulled up and confronted the driver on that move. WANKER.
I second that.
wasnt there a turn off when he decided to pass?
Mate that’s a cracking video. 100% that car pulled out on you deliberately. I’ve rewound replayed it a dozen times. There is no reason for them to pull out on you. The big duke for me all day long.
I replayed it dozen time too. Sooo happy you are ok. Ffffff!!!
The video frame just as the car crosses the white line shows a f@ k off pothole just to the left of the white line behind the car, I suspect that the car driver reacted (too) late to avoid that and nearly took you out in the process. Probably not deliberate but a serious lack of awareness and forward planning. That was a seriously frightening moment.
That driver is a perfect example of what motorcyclists have to contend with unfortunately, it looked deliberate but who knows? Good reactions.
I found most car drivers being pretty considered when it comes to courtesy towards motorcyclists. The main problem is that most of them are too distracted behind the wheel and just not paying attention to what's happening around them.
@@JimJuno agree, most drivers seem considerate - on the flip-side, too many drivers distracted with mobile phones.
As for the car driver, the sudden move looked typical of a car dodging a pot-hole.
4:59 that was deliberate mate
There's a possibility the van was trying to avoid potholes but not checking the mirrors was wrong. Imagine driving at over 50mph in that road. When avoiding potholes. Most people won't check their mirrors.
@@expatbiker6598 not really when his actions was to drive into a pothole to try and hit another road user and the fact that he's watched lcr the entire way.
He needs reporting for that...
Its a difficult call. At first I thought 100% deliberate but the viewed it several times he veered right at the last moment to try to miss the worst of the potholes in that section and stupidly wasn’t aware of his surroundings and nearly turned chopsy into superman
Car drivers always do that 1 swerve 2 realise that you’re right there then 3 swerve back after realising that they didn’t see you! Happens all the time. Mostly women drivers especially on the motorway!
Looks: BMW
Braking: BMW
Torque: SD EVO
Suspension: SD EVO
Electronics: SD EVO
Shifting: SD EVO
Wheelie: SD EVO
Cornering: BMW
Corner Exit: SD EVO
Launch: Comparable
Seat Comfort: SD EVO
Easy Riding: BMW
Better Handling: BMW
Top Speed: BMW
Character: SD EVO
Hooligan Factor: SD EVO
Bigger Body: SD EVO
Price: SD EVO
Track: TBD
Warranty Claims: TBD
My advice? Work hard and buy both of 'em
That moment at 5 mins is even scarier when I pulled it up on my 4k monitor and full screened it. Your guardian angel was watching over you that day.
5:00 that was scary man. Too close to call.
Car was dodging a pot hole. No excuse for not using mirrors but another consequence of government abandoning road maintenance.
It happened to me, only she got me good, 😮. Smashed up shoulder and a written off bike.
That's why I give extra room and rude quickly overtake. Extra room and quick. When splitting lanes. I always anticipate potholes ahead in relation to cars behaviour.
5:00 holy cow. I'll see this on Dirtbike Lunatic
That car had no reason to pull out, seemed deliberate 😳
There's a driveway and a road to turn into, I doubt it was deliberate. I feel like it's not the best place to overtake, but mistakes happen. Glad no one got hurt.
5:00, I'd have definitely had to pull him/her over to find out what the f**k that was about 😮
Probably more dangerous trying to get an idiot like that to pull over, complete lack of awareness and probably scrolling through their phone.
Was that a Honda ? Enough said 😂
@@Cartsp70 No, ironically it was a Smart.
The Duke for me, I just love a v twin engine in the real they are so much fun 🤣 brilliant video boy's
Love weekend releases 👍 love this channel. Keep up the good work Chopsie
Thanks! Will do! 😁
Here I am sitting by the hotel pool in Rhodes with blue sky and 31c and you're making me wish I was back in the UK riding my motorbike!!!
Haha 😄 👍
I've been waiting for this one, great test I think it's the SD for me as i'm a bigger rider and a KTM fanboy. Keep the tests coming Greg is great on camera too.
I do like these comparison videos. Just 2 mates having fun on a ride out and waffling.
5:00 I just felt my heart drop in my lap there. Someone did something very similar to me yesterday and crashed into me. Luckily, I was in a car. Glad you're OK. Look after yourself when overtaking in a bike. A reminder to us all. Keep an eye out for side roads and places that cars might turn into and never overtake when one is coming up.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSS i've been waiting for these comparisons
I'm just gonna make a cup of tea
Look forward to this 😁😁
Great test, chaps. I owned the previous 1290 gen 3 and now own the black beast. Your findings are spot on.
Thanks Gents ...I enjoyed watching this.
As a road bike I have considered the lower priicepoint S1000R. That said the sports, comfort dyamic & motorsports (with forged wheels) packages added my configuration takes things to £18.6k. That's getting close to the start point for the M1000R (without options) .
Customer service, reliability & engine durability outside of warranty will factor for some...... Have seen/heard some mixed comments re durability expectations of BMW (comp pack) carbon wheels also.
Insurance premiums will also factor for many of us.
Then we have to consider how careful we will need to be if leaving any of these bikes parked to avoid the being thrown in the back of a van and never seen again.
Familiar tarmac helped me relate to this vid 😉
I would be interested to see a back to back road use vid on the S1000R Sport vs the M1000R.
Really good content. Thanks for that and keep going.
Amazing comparison. Great video too. I'm with Greg for the BMW.
My two favorite bikes. I have the BMW and definitely dont regret it. Id get the KTM as well if I had the cash.
Brilliant review as always guys. I literally jumped when the car veered across the road. I have been toying with the idea of getting one of these 2 bikes, both seem so amazing. Logically my MT-09 is more bike than I need for weekend rides, and the additional money could be used in a more responsible manner, but then again biking is so much more than just simple logic!
Love the video chops. I live in waterlooville and the ride you done in this video is basically identical to my favourite route keep up the good work
I could only watch half because I feel too much longing for either one but I can’t buy it. You guys have the best job in the world.
Brilliant review I enjoyed that👍🏻
Thanks 👍
Both stunning bikes have to say it would be the duke for me great vid chops 👍
Nice comparison video. I own an M1000R and it's damn near the perfect bike. Track, tour and commute. It'll do everything.
Only two complaints I had was that the engine had some vibes at 5k but Evotech bar ends fixed that and the seat was hard but again a Wunderlich seat fixed that and then some. It's genuinely plush.
Race Pro modes are so useful to refine the power delivery and suspension settings to your liking.
Rider triangle is not aggressive. It's just right with those flat wide bars.
It'll be getting an Akra header and ecu flash soon.
Great job, guys. That head to head burnout was wicked ! 😅
Cracking vlog guys, really good comparison, both bikes are unreal!
Glad you enjoyed it 👍
That was a big scare. I didn't expect that one either and I'm a defensive rider but Chopsy immediately getting back to composure I found pretty impressive. Well done! 😎👌
Got to be the best bike comparison reviews ever . Two incredible bikes . My pick would probably be the Duke. Had a blast on my SDR Gen 1 yesterday .
I have a 1290R Evo. Already made the choice. Put a can and a tune in it, it becomes monstrous. I love that the 1390 has some of that character and some more revs, but not enough to go and flip out $5k or more to switch to the newer bike. To me, inline 4s are great workhorses and I have several for track but on the street the sheer fun and madness of the big twin is what makes me want to ride it.
Brilliant review, thank you guys! Two absolutely amazing bikes helps out :-)
Great review as always! Would love to see the Ducati V4s or SP thrown into the comparison of these super nakeds.
That close call scared the sh!t of me!!!!!!! Welldone for moving away in such controlled manner in such uncontrolled scenario.
As a subscriber who enjoys all of your videos, this was the best of the bunch. Great review Chopsie
Thanks Kelly 👍
I’m 65 now and have been fortunate to have ridden and owned many bikes. I Road raced 400, 600, and 1000 class for years. I was really drawn to this video and these bikes as I could see myself on either one of them. Butthere comes a time as we age when you have to make the better decision.
I would love to own either one of these bikes, but I know better. My brain and heart are still in it, but my eyes are not. I’ve settled for a decked out 701 and I’m taking full advantage of all the off-road riding afforded to us here in the north west of the United States. It’s such a treat to be able to watch these reviews and keep up with the incredible technology now in these machines. Thanks for doing such a good job keeping us dreaming…
That person almost killed you. I would 1000% report them if you have their plate number.
OV09KME
Yes absolutely! So they think twice about doing it to another motorcyclist in the future.
Definitely. Another oblivious country driver. Probably moved over for a pothole or something & didn't look. It's just that easy to have a serious accident unfortunately so you have to ride ultra defensively & presumption everyone is trying to kill you.
That number plate almost seems to spell « overtake me »… Coïncidence? 🤔
That’s was so close!! So lucky
Excellent comparison as usual. Except these machines are anything other than usual. Well played Gents, very entertaining. 👍🏼
Thanks 👍
Superbe vidéo merci ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ la moto 🏍 🏍
Glad you made it mate! 😮
Great video chaps, enjoyable, but informative.....some nice arty filming touches too Chopsy 👍🏻
Thanks Nick 👍
I've already made this decision 2 generations back (throw in the Tuono as well), and my love of V-Twin packaging and power delivery hasn't changed. I'm always tempted by more of a good thing though.
Jeez that was close, that knobber pulling out on you. Scary. Bloody brilliant video though, fantastic work. You can really see the passion for the ‘bikes. I’ll bet you a Micks burger van cuppa that Greg gets a M1KR.. 😂 keep it coming. 👍👍
Smashin video Chops! I’ve been BMW for years, however on this occasion I’m backing KTM! What a ride! Respecta! 😊
Great entertainment. Cheers lads.
Can't help being impressed by the beemers ability to dig in during the roll on,s given the displacement it gives away , great content , you and the 44 teeth crew have got it covered 👍👍
Appreciated Steve 👍
Enjoyed that,glad it was a warm dry day!
Don't think I would use either bike to it's full potential,but for me just on my dreams it could be the KTM!
As I keep saying, the older I get the faster I was 😂
Keep up the good work 👍
Thanks very much 👍
oh my, just prepared a big cup of coffee.. just gonna enjoy it even more now 😅
That was a great comparison review, thank you.
I'd definitely live to watch a comparison between the S1000R and the M1000R.
I think that would be really useful knowing what the trade-offs are especially things like comfort.
Great comparison & great bikes. You can't really buy a bad bike now & these are both at the top of their game so as you say, it's just preference & you'll be thrilled with either. As for future comparisons, you already nailed it for me, Suzuki GSX8R v Triumph Daytona 660 v CBR650R. Thanks chaps. : )
Stunning comparison video once again boys…..but without a shadow of a doubt it would have to be the Bmw on looks alone👌🏻
Jesus I nearly threw me cuppa tea all over when that car pulled over on you. Loving the videos chops👍🏻
Fantastic review chaps, think I would lean Ktm way as well, but as you both say, there’s nothing between it really, pick the flavour you like and enjoy 😊
Brilliant video, made me jump at 5.00. 🏍🏍
Holy Christ chops that was a ridiculously close call, it absolutely looks deliberate, your cat like reactions saved you then for sure! Anyway great video , super duke not only looks menacing , the engine sounds stunning .
Great comparison video guys, Many thanks for posting. I had the subtitles on (sad I know), and every time the bikes revved, the titles interpreted it as 'music', which seemed about right!!
Haha brilliant! 👏
Great work, Faultless 👍
Thank you! Cheers!
I'd report that chopsy. It's what we face not all the time, but regularly. We had it very recently on a group ride no video or we would have reported it. It's already tricky enough riding without people actually trying to take us out. Report it to the insurance company and to the police. Absolute bankers! Great bikes. Top content. I'd go BMW if money was no object. Next bike is a super duke or super duke GT though after a few years of the GSXGT you helped me make a decision on, which I love.
Great vid lads, definitely a personal preference, I’d take the KTM all day, not because it’s better, I’m just a KTM fanboy and love them 🫡 both animals
Loved the video I have the BMW competition I think your bang on with your opinions it’s totally down to whether you like BM’s or KTM’s personally I don’t like KTM looks but that’s just me! I have never rode a KTM. I agree with both of you the seat on the BM is not that comfortable and even with the suspension settings turned right down it’s still a firm ride. I don’t find the riding position wristy but I do get pressure on my palms and the bars are a bit buzzy. I have fitted a short end can, belly pan some great tank protection from motografic and the usual rad guards fender extender GB engine covers other than that there’s not much you can do to the BM to improve it. But I’m sure that both bikes are equally as good!
Great video guys, probably the best yet, I'm Camp BMW as have the M1000R and love it, but the new KTM does look much better in real life.
I've just ordered a new seat for mine from Germany so that might make it the perfect long distance weapon 😃
Yea. I flinched there too.
Thanks for a great and informative video. I bought the 1290 evo over the M last year because i found it more entertaining, more FUN. And I WAS sure i would go 1390 next year but now i think i have to revisit the M when the time comes…
Yeah defo worth trying the M again before you make the decision 👍
@@LambChopRidesOnce again i went with the SuperDuke. Orange 1390 evo🥳
Love the wheel to wheel burnout, epic, lol,👍, go choppsee,.....
Hey chops great vids how about doing a used sports bike comparison if you have any contacts that will let you test there stock with maybe a more realistic budget of say £7-9k
Keep up the great work
Love the vids
Ever considered doing a 990 Duke vs 1390, or m1000r vs mt_09?
Be interesting. In isolation under 1000cc nakeds have plenty of power, be interesting to see how it works in the real world back to back with a super naked
I think it would make more sense to do a 990 duke vs mt09.
Great review guys.. the Bmmer with those wings looks like it should be on a runway.. not for me.. but great review as always.. Pete
A question that should have been asked in the test should have probably been: You’ve been out on these bikes for 3-5 hours, which are you having more fun on at that point? For me, a lack of leg room and a hard seat matter when then differences in brake and front end feels are so slight and you actually have to live with these bikes once you buy them.
I do think the build quality and finishes on the BMW are better and will hold up longer over time though. Here in the States, KTM dealers are harder to come by than BMW shops so that’s a consideration-as far as warranty goes though, all of the companies are shit these days it seems…. But I’d expect better reliability from the BMW. The KTM seems a slightly more livable bike though.
best bike comparison on the all tube 👍
the bimmer is surprisingly faster and the duke looks more lively and fun less chirurgical witch is better for a road bike
Bet you needed a change of pants after that Chopsy. Always the professional though and straight back to the review. 👍
Really enjoyed the channel, been watching for ages, why its taken me so long to subtribe I don't know. Anyway brilliant channel, great content. You really should do this as a full time job! Go for it.
Hope you can do another review of the S1000RR as I am looking to purchase one and value your advice.
Thanks Kelvin 👍 Going to be doing a comparison with the new Fireblade, v4 Pani and hopefully the M1000RR or S1000RR
Sooooo, no winner?
I know it's about personal preference, they are so close, but some pros/cons/final conclusions would help.
Or even better: this bike suits more that rider.
If it's your money, which one you buy?
Great video, BTW
Got that excited for this one I’ve even broke out the choccy hobnobs!
Lovely! No jammy dodgers?
@@LambChopRides not today!
@@LambChopRidesThat was you at 5m😂
Very nice!
Both are perfect bikes!
Fantastic vid - but most importantly where is that pub ? looks lovely.
Great video, would be cool if you could do a weekend trip comparison review. I think the KTM would win for both of you due to the extra smiles and comfort over a couple of hundred miles of riding. Thanks for your work on the channel it’s definitely a top 5 watch for me 👍👍
Good idea Paul and thanks buddy 👍
BMW for me every time. Great video. 👍
I love both bikes! That can only dream about! Due to price!
Good reactions chops, what a complete 🔔end that driver was. For me it has to be the BMW just because I'm a tart and I prefer the looks, and for me you've got to love the look of it. I'm with you though, I think BMW could have done better with the front light, it looks a bit of a cost copout. The SDR is still a beast and I'm sure it will make many people smile.
If orange isn't your colour, then the other is the answer.
Both are amazing.
Wow, it can all go wrong so quickly huh? Stay safe out there Chops!
As a Yamaha Tracer owner and lover of the "tall rounder" class of sports tourers, I would love to see the M1000XR v Multistrada V4 RS head to head.
That sounds like a great comparison! Id love to see that video.
Yes would be great M1000XR in the garage currently actually. However no RS multistrada on the Ducati UK fleet, not even a Pikes Peak so unfortunately impossible that test 😫
Great vid gents, loved the review. I would say though the cost difference between the two should be a factor also. There is a lot of the power parts catalog that can be thrown at the evo for £8k ish.
Actually the base M1000R is slightly cheaper than the EVO Superduke and that's before you put the tech pack on the KTM.. M1000R has forged wheels and heated grips too!
Hey BMW and KTM, here’s your bike back - might need a new rear tire😁. Another classic LCR dual review👍
We only did enough to get a thumbnail haha 😄
Great review of both the bikes love KTM duke more !!
Now we add tuono and streetfighter and mt10 and do it again
What a brilliant video, watched to the end. Shame that both bikes had broken speedos! 😂
your living the dream now
can you please do a comparison with all the S1000R models and M1000R models (or at lest as many as you can get your hands on.)
Glad to see you didn't let that driver continue to ruin the ride for you. I'm sure they were just completely oblivious, but good to see you get past them unscathed
Very nice video and comparison
Would also love the S vs M.comparison and your opinion on whether or not the M makes sens on open road with much higher revs or if it's just a track machine.
Cheers ✌️✌️
Great video , Waldorf & statler 😂😂
Both beautiful bikes , I have the m1000r , but do love the duke,
That knob does need reporting 🤬🤬
Pretty insane insight into 2 top shelf bikes. Personally I’d opt for a Yamaha Tracer 9 GT with wind protection. I can’t ride without it these days. BMW RS1250T(?) with fairing and shaft drive is a very comfortable,sports tourer.
I've had the 1390 for a few months now and it is incredible but still I have moments when I want to go and swap it for the BMW. Thing is though that the KTM is so comfortable and I hear the BMW is quite viby at "motorway" speeds. On the other hand the BMW looks perfect out of the box where as the KTM needs tail tidy, rear sets, mirrors and a full system. 🙃
Ktm just needs an end can it doesn't need full system
@@Carvetii I disagree. It feels even better with the full system but not as much as the 1290, which was night and day. It is a bit loud though.
It's the tune that matters, the full system does next to nothing but take money out of your pocket for the 1290R. Just a tune with a short can makes all the power that the Akra full system + OEM Akra tune does. Get your dealership to slam the Akra tune in, it will work as well as BrenTune or Openflash.
As for the tail tidy, rearsets etc. the Super Duke is sold as a street bike that can do anything. That's its purpose in life and others might want to have side bags, etc. where you want track-ready gear on it. The point is moot because even if you farkled the 1390R to the moon, it's still probably cheaper than the BMW stock.
Friend of yours who has been supporting you on this channel is not robin but he is batman as well