NVIDIA... I just can't anymore... [RANT]
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I love videos when Jay rants. It’s juicy
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@@Flootyy I know 😝 juicy right?!
@@ElTeeger 🤤
It's clickbait garbage.
@@ElTeeger im 100% sure Phil was the one who liked your comment
The best part was when they spent like 5 seconds just to be like "ok here's a 3090 TIE, aight imma head out".
Good timing tho, I was just thinking my 3090 was starting to become useless 🙄
what were they even thinking with that when it didn't really have much to improve on the older model? Man Nvidia is just... ugh...
No GPU will be the best forever. They all get superceeded at some point.
Yeah you really came close to a 3090 becoming useless.
It's okay man . When 30 series launched I was told to sell my useless 2080 super for $20 . It's so useless right now I can't even look at it without major disgust lol
Ti is short for Titanium just so you know.
I feel like those cards are coming out mostly so Nvidia can directly benefit from the inflated scalper prices. The more cards they can churn out that are significantly more expensive than their MSRP (like the 3080 Ti e.g.), the more cake they're getting.
Fuuuuck, I hope you are wrong cause that actually makes sense
They sell their junker cards at prem prices... :/
Especially true since they just halted the 3090 ti production to create inflated demand like the new consoles have been doing.
@@Thiccness_Is_Delicious "New consoles have been doing" Sony actively increased production of PS4s because the lack of titles on the ps5 (due to covid delays) means people have been buying up 4s. Consoles business model is to profit from taking a cut on game sales they lose money if they just sit in a scalpers basement even if they're inflated by a hundred or two hundred dollars.
I’ll stick with my twin 1080ti’s… It’s insane. I’d love to be running the latest cards but to take out a second mortgage on my house to do minor 3d work and my full time editing work, is just not worth it IMO.
Can't even run twin cards proper any more
500w power twin 1080tis...
I thought it was crazy how people bought two of those cards back then. Right now you can get only one flagship for like twice the price of both of them.
Honestly before the house of cards collapses, I'd sell one of those 2 for big bucks and then buy a newer GPU with that money, plus the money you'd get from selling the other 1080TI after the market calms down. Unless you can actually take advantage of both, most software doesn't handle SLI well but if you have a need and use case, in that case I'd wait.
Still have my 1080Ti SLI, even a single 1080Ti is still more than good enough nowadays at 1440p. It was a top of the line card with a 700 dollar MSRP, and yet, it is THIS good. Nowadays, 70 series cards sell for that much...
Man, I've completely written off getting a 30 series card at this point, just going to wait for the next series and see if the market normalizes.
Don't bank on getting a 40 series card either. They will be just as overpriced and rare as hens teeth.
Same. Still rocking a GTX 1070 and ain't no way I'm paying scalper prices!
40 series is just adding more. They don't change products anymore. They just add on along with the prices. 40 Series is going to mean $4k...
@@Kcducttaper1 True facts man. I sold my 1070ti to try and get a 3070 right before launch. Missed getting one and now I'm rocking my vega56 I had.
@@spankbuda3084 So true. After weeks of trying to get a card for close to MSRP and irritating my wife I just decided to bite the bullet and got a 3070. Way more then my GTX1080 but figured I would sell the 1080 and help absorb the cost. Scalpers are not going away. Life sucks. Get over it...
My favorite part of the 3050 announcement - "It's a great time to upgrade to RTX.". Like most people wouldn't buy an RTX card if there was one available.
Lol, what a surprise to see you here!
if RTX cards were plentiful I still wouldn't buy one.
At MSRP maybe
3050=GTX1070. At price I guess 600€/$. Used 1070=350ish.
Nvidia is clearly trolling us. Just because they can.
I respect everything Jay and crew brings us.
On another hand, seeing these types of videos reminds me that I should've built gaming machine before the pandemic because I'll be damned if I could ever afford a setup any time soon.
Your best bet will be going with a prebuilt, I ended up going with nzxt last year got lucky with a vision 3070 gpu, just swapped out some parts here and there loving my setup now
I bought a 1650 in November 2019, my only regret is not spending $70 more to get a 1660 instead at the time. Now I'll just sit back and watch everything implode and be thankful i'm not in the steaming mess for the forseeable future.
I built computers for my wife and myself in Dec 2019. Wife didn't have a PC to scavenge so I got her an RX580 (We wanted to spent as little as possible for something that was ok since 20-series Nvidia were annoyingly bad value to me and the 5000 series AMDs were similarly positioned, but with worse performance). I used an existing RX480 for mine for the same reason. I figured I'd upgrade as soon as the AMD 6000 series or Nvidia 3000 series cards dropped. Boy was I wrong about availability.
Nvidia in 2020 : Now, you can upgrade
Nvidia in 2021 : Now, you can definately upgrade
Nvidia in 2022 : you've definately upgraded, still ..take this, if you haven't changed your mind.
People : Wtf? I don't build PC's anymore
I've been in the EVGA queue for over a year now. This is such a slap in the face. I was irritated when they made the 3080ti given they couldn't even supply the demand for the 3080 and now yet again let's take and make another version while still not being able to supply the demand for the people still waiting for a 3080 !
You still waiting for a 3080? My dude, the 3080 has been freely available in South Africa for the past 6 months now.
It took me like 7 months to finally get an email from EVGA to purchase. I got a 3060ti FTW3. Not sure if I was just lucky. Good luck.
Hope you're ready to get in line for a 4080
I've been in queue for a 3070 for 9 months now. Still keeping that spot but had to break down and buy a 3060 for the same price I'm in line for the 3070 at. I just couldn't leave my 1050ti in my brand new pc build any longer.
@@andremostert8630 At MSRP? Because sure, here in Europe it's available as well... But only if you're willing to pay over €1599 on it.
The key here is that Jay said it perfectly: They're a publicly traded company. They go where the cash is. Gamers aren't really where the cash is anymore. The crypto market is. When one person can buy two pallets of cards for their crypto farm, how can the standard gamer compete for attention? We need a superhero underdog company to step forward and take the reigns for the gamer market.
Closest thing we are getting is Intel Arc. Not that Intel is exactly an underdog company--but their graphics brand is
Arent they coming with minig cards?
We just need someone to shut down crypto mining or make it unattractive.
But what for profit company would purposely go into business to make graphics cards specifically for gamers and not crypto, knowing that they will make less money. I just don’t see it happening.
@@post-leftluddite If Intel is willing to make their cards completely useless to miners then at least whatever stock there is will end up in gamers hands. That will help drive down some demand. This is all assuming their cards are complete crap.
This video reminded me that my (personal, let alone release date) GTX 960 is about 3 months shy of 6 years old, and has ran faithfully since I bought it. Fans bit the dust (literally) around Thanksgiving last year, so I treated it to a $20 set of replacements, a good dusting and it's first ever fresh new thermal paste.
At $180 bucks off of Newegg back in 2016, this thing was great. The larger memory version of the card, a nice beefy cooler with two fans, heatpipes, and copper over the die, all topped off with a slick metal backplate to give it that premium feel.
180 bucks.
At this point, both in terms of literal age, and what it represents, this card is now a relic of a time long passed. Even factoring in inflation, a card of this caliber at that price doesn't exist anymore. Even at the bogus elusive "MSRP". That sort of value is just history now
I was so happy this year that my card could still run Forza Horizon and Halo well enough, even if I need to run 90-100% of settings as low as they go. But it was bittersweet, tangible evidence that my card's time has come. Any future games will be too much.
As someone who gets migraines, and is specifically susceptible to visual stimuli, I simply can't play games for any length of time if the FPS tanks below 45-50, as it can translate into physical illness for me.
It's rough, knowing that things probably won't go back to how they used to be, but damn, Jay, do I appreciate what you do. You and a lot of the YT PC community. Stuff like Jayzgiving really means a lot to us, even if we don't win ourselves.
Appreciate what you do man.
Good times when 60 series was under 200, nowadays seems that even the 50 series is going to start at 300...
My 1060 GTX served me so well. For the last 4 years, I've relied on it hoping it would keep on lasting.
But the problem is, it's a laptop. And god, is it a pain to try and repair laptop parts when the fans die...
Writing this from a very, very aged 2014 computer with a 750 in the hood that I absolutely don't want to use but can't replace...
Your post caught my eye.
I am still happily using an RX580 that I bought used 3 years ago for $180 and which I use every day.
I am a Pro CAD guy but not a gamer, it easily meets all my needs and has provided tremendous value.
I just checked the used prices and I could still sell that card for more than I paid for it.
I would like to purchase a newer RTX series card but not for what they are selling for these days, I can wait..first world problems.
I'm still running SLI 770s, I also replaced my fans last year on them, making a custom mounting so I could get away with two full sized 120mm on one and two slim 120mm on the other. I was wanting to water cool them but beyond it being near impossible to find the old blocks for them (770 classified only had a specific set) and the cost of the full loop I'd be looking at the cost of a new card... well a new card if they weren't at scalping prices and the 25% tax. Lucky for me being a broke bastard I can't afford to buy a bunch of new games anyhow so I don't really need a new card as long as these hold out.
This is why I wish I was a rich gamer, to spend half my money on PC/PC parts for gamers who aren't fortunate enough to afford the gaming parts economy today
I very rarely leave comments on here, but as I've been watching your videos for years I just wanted to say I appreciate you telling it how it is and holding companies responsible keep up the amazing work
@@redacted5035 True,but......let him be..... move on(which i should've done when i saw your comment)
When the 3000 series came out I was frustrated, mainly because I had recently got a 2080 super and was looking at those 3080's with envy. Now, I'm just glad I bought a good spec card when I did and will keep using it until the next generation is out and prices are reasonable again. I refuse to waste money on over inflated prices, whether that's from the manufacturers, retailers or scalpers.
Good luck if things keep going this way MSRP will be a thing of the past.I dont see stocked shelves any time soon.Hope I'm wrong though,would love to upgrade my 1080ti or is it tie?👔
I ordered a 3080 for 700 bucks, waited 10months, they cancelled my order because there was a 'new 3080' (mining limiter). Complete lie, they just charged double for the new cards and refused to serve the people who ordered at a lower price almost a year ago at the time.
I really doubt the prices will return to normal. Guessing they'll settle around 1-1.3k.
But at those prices i'll stick to my 1080
Same for me with my 2080 Ti. I usually build a new rig every year and this one is over 3 years old now and still going strong. I want to build a new rig but can never get a GPU for even double MSRP. I refuse to feed scalper's families and it is looking like the big companies are joining them in price gouging.
@@Troyjanwarrior1 I live in hope, it may be false hope but I think it should get at least somewhat better eventually!
@@AllroundSwizzy I feel for you, waiting that long and getting shafted sucks! Hope you find something eventually.
*I love your take on it.* Everyone on Twitter excited about it. I see it as a slap in the face to people still waiting for a 3070/3080.
Marketing bots are easily excited!
Those are bots not real People. Get off Twitter it's gamed
i have been in the cue for a 3070/3080 from day one at evga and its what like a year and a half later? and still nothing?
Yeah. No one is actually excited. The chat during the live stream was nothing but pissed off gamers spamming "OUT OF STOCK".
@@KGerm I've gotten 2 different 3080s and a 3080Ti in EVGA's queue. The two 3080s I got in the first 6 months. The 3080 Ti...I was in queue for less than 2 months.
Nvidia should have focused on the 3070. A perfectly good card for most applications and cheap. More gamers would be able to get their hands on it as well and would be more efficient than producing those 3090tis
1K is cheap?
@@TheEchelon No but it was half of that normally, basically sayin that if they would have focused on producing the 3070's instead of all the TI cards now, that it would have been better.
more supply, the cheaper it will become\
therefore we must not produce more and just create an artificial shortage to increase the prices.
3080 tats the Card wat i want for onle 700-800 Dollar not mor
But not as large of a profit margin
Consumers: "For every $3000 card, you could be selling 4 $700 cards to consumers, so we actually have something to play with."
Nvidia: "For every $700 card we could be selling, we could just sell a $3000 card instead."
We can only hope that Intel makes a ton of ARC GPUs and they show up on shelves like they did with 12th gen.
It will not happen, ARC GPU will be fabed by TMC.
@@mmaadd09 and all the Intel Arc Gpu fabed would be buy by miners 😮💨
no one wants a fucking Intel gpu 🤣 It's common sense that they're going to be shit. Nvidia and amd has been making gpus for tens of years... Intel ain't getting no where close to the new cards
@@AlluzHH Availability is a skill.
Strange times indeed that I would find myself rooting for Intel.
My position on this whole fiasco: I'm still using a 980 Ti and, right now, I'm glad that I have a card that's still able to pull its weight for now, because I'm completely and absolutely unable to upgrade, because to try and get something like a 3080 is little more than a fool's game right now. For NVIDIA to come out - right now, in the middle of a silicon shortage and crypto boom - with a card that will sell for actual thousands of dollars, is truly and honestly one of the most comedically awful things I've seen them do in a while.
That's not even tone-deafness at this point; it's just absolute and complete ignorance to the current situation. To split a core package yet again to different SKUs means that there's less to go around for products people actually want to buy, and selling the most unnecessary GPU in a long time for a quick buck undid all the work they tried with the 3050. And even then, the 3050, as you say, isn't going to sell for the $250 MSRP when it launches; I'll be amazed if it's remotely close to it.
it was Nvidias way to say to the customers: " we did fool you ones, we fool you further, we do it like drug dealers we fix you on with a interesting offer we never want to sell to you (3080 at 699) now we sell what we always wanted to do 3090ti at a ridiculous pricepoint and you will pay even more". My 1080ti will acompany me for further 3 years, sorry game developers for the next 3 years i don't think you will get much money from me, you were the real loosers in this battle. My advice program you future titles that they are oriented on actual APUs.
3 years ago, I upgraded to a 1070 on my already 5-year-old rig. It's still running games like Forza Horizon 5 at a higher quality, but you can tell it's a workout at this point. I'm just praying it'll last another two years or so because I definitely can't afford a new rig right now. Then, you got Nvidia being unashamedly greedy on top of it all. I'll be switching to AMD for sure at this point.
my 980ti died in april and since then im using ryzen 5 2400g apu
Thankfully I bought a 2070 for around £400 3 years ago & at this rate it will be in a system here for another 3-5 years! Been offered close on double what I paid for it over the past year or so, but refused each time as don’t want to put one of the GTX660Ti on my shelf into the machine!
@@simrantoor85 My laptop's got a 1070. She ain't the prettiest gal at the dance, but she'll put out if you say "please".
There isn’t a real shortage at this point, they are just direct selling to pre builders instead of direct to consumers. Releasing another card is absurd given the circumstances
"Tone-Def" is a great description of Nvidia atm. They are very resilient when it comes to gamer outrage.
Worst part is, they still earn millions of dollars no matter what. We have no right to justify what they are doing is wrong because people are still going to buy their products despite how out of touch or how greedy they are
@@NukeTheOG Not in all countries. Here in Denmark we actually have alot of cards in stock, but no one is buying them, because of the insane prices on the cards. The 3080 ti cost between 2000 and 3000€ and the normal 3080 cost about 2000€ and nobody wants to pay that for the cards
@@tommysimonsen4043 Denmark is a minority.
@@NukeTheOG It's like this all over EU. People are not buying the cards for insane overprice any more.
@@tommysimonsen4043 You're forgetting scalpers and miners still exist
I've stopped caring about GPU announcements after the 3070 was launched knowing that the market was going to be saturated with scalpers and crypto miners.
While it was impossible to get a RTX card. I had success getting AMD cards for both my rig and my brother's
Oh man i remember 1 years ago in my night shift exciting watching nvidia launching rtx series 3000 with msrp price . now its all gone LoL
I was lucky I got a 3070 at a reasonable price, even if it wasn't a top of the line OEM designs, I will not upgrade until 5000 series or whatever refresh that comes after next generation
I guess the silver lining here is everyone realizing some of their “old” tech is still useful and will be for years to come. You don’t need to upgrade EVERY year (unless your rig/workload really demands it)
I’m still using my 1660 super. So yes my old tech is still useful
@@christopherfontenot3867 im still using a 1080 i got for 300 in covid lockdown, still the best bang for buck to play the games i play to use my 165 hz monitor
Kind if like Apple iphones. Everyone shits on them for not doing something new each year, but they are following the market and making moderate improvements. You arent supposed to buy a new phone each year, but because they are a buisness, they pitch their new phones that way.
so true. my 1060 has been running everything i need since 2017
I'm just trying to upgrade from my Quadro m2000 at work 😂, my LP 1650 in my optiplex at home performs better in SOLIDWORKS 😆
Nvidias prices have become completely insane. I've wanted to buy a graphics card for almost two years now but there's no way in hell I'm paying these prices, so I'll just keep playing less graphically intense games. Eventually I'll probably buy an AMD card instead whenever the market recovers. Nvidia makes me sick.
Buy that AMD card, no regrets. I bought a pre-built Alienware (part prices vs pre-built, the pre built was way cheaper) with a 6800 xt in it, runs absolutely phenomenally, there's some driver issues but I haven't had any personally. You could pick up a 5000 series card and it'll run laps around your current card if you wanna try it out and roll that way.
I bought a 30 series card 1.5 years ago at scalper prices.
It's made me 3x the cost by mining. Stop complaining and buy one.
Buy a rx 580 8gb
@@tihruytssgjjvsavcxtbvhj3429 until eventually the government criminalises crypto then it'll be worthless
@@tihruytssgjjvsavcxtbvhj3429 I'm literally going to sell my 2080Ti scalped and putting it to my car coz im quitting PC building after 20 years...downgrading to the would be intel dGPU. That's a good 2X the price I bought it at. LMAO
You hit the nail right on the head Jay. Thanks for speaking out about it.
Thank you Jay for being the only ray of hope in an endless dark tunnel
Please remain unbiased and fairly critical for bs like this
Why jay is my number one tech guy
Gamers Nexus is another channel that always tells it how it is.
He's far from unbiased...
@@deemo182 true, but linus is even worse tbh
Lol...are you kidding?? He has become an Nvidia hater and an AMD promoter some time ago. His OPINION SEEMS unbiased to you, because you AGREE with him. This channel has become just another rant & rave place. He has been uploading less informative videos than ever...just bitch sessions about Nvidia.
Guess my GTX 1070 will run another year. I will not pay a 1000 bucks for a 3070.
And I won't pay $1,300 for a RX6800.
Literally nobody:
Nvidia: Here's the 3090 TI you all were clamoring for
I'm sitting on a 1080Ti, was looking at a 3070/3080 until scalpers and scarcity, and personally pissed they continue to market cards without helping address the general public. A 3050 is not the solution. I would buy a couple for my daughter's computers, but certainly not an upgrade for me. They are so gun-shy from when they took their last losses that now the shortage and mining boom they have gotten greedy and seem justified in underproducing. Have to wonder if they are purposely artificially shorting the market of supply.
3050 desktop is lightyears better than mobile. 8GB of VRAM vs 4GB on 2021/2022 lmao.
I heard from some they are artificially inflating them.
Yes indeed.
Kinda lost for words at the moment! I paid abt $3000 for the Asus Strix LC 3080 ti last month lol.. restrained for almost 2 years to upgrade from 1080 ti from 2017!
You supposed to put it in a computer and use it to drive the monitor, not sit on it. The chair is for sitting on, not the 1080Ti.
Chipmakers are building factories and won’t be able to support mass production until 2024, brace yourself for more pain and frustration ahead or just ignore the market for the next year.
I love how Jay doesn’t give a fuck about keeping Nvidia happy. Tell the truth! That’s why this is the best tech channel on the internet.
Sure, Gamersnexus are kind of like that too. Steve usually roasts everyone :D But yea, Jay is great, no question about it
This video bugs me... I don't think 3090Ti production will impact availability of the lower SKUs. Nvidia themselves spent less time on the subject. And Jay Himself will ALWAYS buy the fasted Nvidia card to put in His system. So... He's kind of a hypocrite.
@@ericmatthews8497 I think Nvidia is tone def also but I would still want a 3090ti all day.
@@ericmatthews8497 Jay has a reason to buy them. He does reviews on the cards. At that point anyone would use them, especially given they do video processing as half their profession. The 3090Ti will mean the 3090 normals will on average be a lower quality as they will need to hold back the highest binned cores for the Ti. The 3090 lottery got a lot worse with this. It wont impact the 3080 cards so long as they do not change the binning requirements, but we have no reason to think they would not. The higher binned cores get them more money and they have already paid for the core, so why not go for the highest return? All cards sell within seconds of posting anyway.
@@ericmatthews8497 It will for sure and it already is. It's all about the money.
I honestly can't even be bothered to be excited about any of this anymore because I know it's going to immediately become prohibitively expensive right after launch. I've given up on upgrading my GPU in the foreseeable future.
I agree, in an version of reality no top tier card should be costing any more than 1 K and that's like the best of the best. anything over that and it's ..uh !
They still don't care that thier products are 200% above MSRP
Hope your card does not burn off like mine did :(
@@disinte Sorry to hear that. The fear of my trusty old 1050ti dying is what got me to repaste it and get a whole bunch of case fans together with a better case.
@@harshshah434 Well, it gets them more money, so I doubt it's a big issue in their eyes.
I always knew I was going to skip the 2000 series, but did kinda want to upgrade when the value proposition seemingly came back with RTX 3000 series and RX 6000 series. Unfortunately it's been completely impossible to get a 3080 or 6800 XT at MSRP.
I would just enjoy to have the "option" to upgrade... I'm locked into my system because I refuse to pay scalper prices
As a gamer that's hit his 40's, I find myself hanging on to the video cards longer so I can get the most out of them; currently a GeForce GTX 1660. I find that I'm playing games a little less than I used to and new titles aren't as appealing..... Which makes moves like what Nvidia's doing here an definite NO.
I don't need the latest and greatest card anymore, just something to help me along with decent graphics, I don't hardly run anything at "ultra high" unless I'm taking a trip down memory lane with a game like E.S. ;Oblivion. Don't get me wrong, I'm not putting Nvidia down, and I'm not going to stop gaming, I'm just not as into it as I was years ago.
Similar for me. My last video card had 8 years of use in a machine that is on 24/7. My 3080 will be expected to give me at least 5 before considering upgrade outside of it smoking itself.
I can relate.
i know how you feel my man, new games are shit these days, i was even slowly disconnecting myself from gaming since nearly an decade ago, that is... until i played on the ps vr 1 i had on my old ps4 pro, with farpoint having been finished, and then sold the console and its entire kit to fund getting the valve index
explore VR my dude, try it, beginning with half life alyx, blade and sorcery, and pavlov vr, you wont regret it, trust me, VR alone rejuvenated my soul, and gave me hope for the future of the gaming world, this is my personal message to you, as someone who was suffering till i got onto VR, with similar situations happening with shooters and post-apocalyptic zombie games till i started playing halo years ago, and now... state of decay 2, with the latter leaving me on an trance, and giving me an moment of mournful reflection upon the history and state of the gaming industry
I have an Oculus 2 already and use it off and on. Honestly I don't like zombie games to begin with but have found other avenues. Mostly VR chats and the like. I've found myself liking Nintendo's switch games more and more as well.
@@Pantherman1979 state of decay is not meant to be the typical zombie game anyways, its all about you surviving while growing your own community of survivors, while you go outside into the world to scavenge for food and materials, all while evading combat with zombies and forming relations with other groups of survivors, with you trading with them and even helping them out, potentially ending with them deciding to join your community, you can also have members come with you on scavenging to help you out, and even other players can join you and have fun with you, the game encourages stealth with zombies over direct confrontation, especially against red-colored zombies (whom can infect your survivors, meaning they are already dead if you dont cure them, infection worsening the more they damage those survivors) this further distances it from the stereotypical post-apocalyptic zombie games out there, which are (disappointingly) all about violence, shooting, and killing
so yep, this game is all about building an better tomorrow, for everyone
At this point I just want to see Intel have a ton of GPUs with good specs.
They will be sold out as well.
@@ZackSNetwork Intel has an advantage in that they run their own fabs, unlike AMD and Nvidia, so they might be able to get ahead of the stock issues and respond better.
@@zaphod4245 Unfortunately, Intel is using TSMC 6nm over it's own fabs for it's Arc Alchemist GPUs. Intel might switch to it's own fabs for Battlemage and beyond, but by then chip prices might be starting to normalize again.
Good job pointing this out. I got a 40% impact in performance on the jungle mission in SOTR, with RT on 1440p with a 3080. And RT its not fully utilized even there for shadows, effects and reflections. Its about 50% utilized, the rest is cubemaps.
I think in most games RT usually gets max 30% in utilization, the rest is previous tech. Which is sad. RT performance needs to double in relative terms with the raw performance of the cards.
It seems I'll be keeping my GTX 1080 running for quite a while longer. For a 5.5 year old card, this thing is an absolute unit. I'm glad I got something VR-ready before the coof hit.
Yeah, hearing this just makes me want to double-down on not investing in video card upgrades. This sort of thing is also why I haven't been following any new title releases. I've been having plenty of fun with other games on my 1070.
Your 1070 can still play all triple a titles at 1080 without a sweat. I had a 2060 before which is almost same performance and it did great.
vote with your money thats how these problems get fixed as long as we buy it they will keep doing this. consumers need to learn to be good consumers
The Pascal Series' price/performance ratio was Nvidia's biggest mistake ever, they won't allow something this ever again! I think we need to detach ourselves from the hope of getting another 1050 ti, 1060 or 1080 ti. Even though I always hope the best of course...
Capitalism's a bitch ain't it?
@@barockobummer2448 It can be. But you'd be a fool to ignore the problems associated with most of the alternatives. Gulags and bread lines aren't a preferable alternative to overly expensive GPUs.
People soon need to ask the 3090 TI to start splitting the electricity bill
For those of you looking for a GPU in this market I suggest looking at older AMD cards, some of them still sell for cheap with 2060 tier performance.
Provided the 3050 (or Ti) has nvenc, I might be interested. AMD's RX 6500 XT doesn't have a video encoder. Several years ago when I was way more financially unstable (and also had basically no knowledge of good products for my use case) I decided to get a GT 1030. As someone who plays tactical shooters like Valorant or CS:GO, high frame rates are key and trying to stream or record using my CPU (even tho I have a Ryzen 5 3600) just isn't great.
As for the 3090 Ti launch, as far as I can tell, they're just taking that data center A-series card and slapping a GeForce cooler and some gaming drivers on it.
I had no idea the 6900XT was catching up like that. I would love to see you compare the two as they stand today
The reason they didnt release a 3050 for so long was because they wanted to move the price point up.
This is also why they re-named the 2030 to the 1650/super, and why the 2050/TI was renamed to the 1660/TI, to shift that price point up
So happy I decided to upgrade my pc at the end of 2019. Might've been tough to find my 3080, and even harder to get my Ryzen 5900x, but at least they were close to the actual MSRP.
I am also REALLY happy about my Rog Strix 3080 OC and i9 10900k
@@TheSolarium18 I bet haha. The strix or the aorus master were the models I most wanted, but ended up finding the evga xc3 ultra and couldn't pass it up. Minimal difference between the models anyways. Strix and aorus are more aesthetically pleasing to me is all lol
With these new higher end cards on the same process, are the chips actually different? Or are they just binning them and charging more for higher end parts with fewer manufacturing defects?
Bingo
I feel that lower end (high end price) gpus like RTX3050 would be a line that if implemented with 3060ti+ (Higher) based RT / Tensor core numbers would benefit greatly in terms of DLSS and some RT in newer gaming titles at 1080p and be welcomed by many for the new entry level GPU 🥰👍🤩 at its RRP/MSRP!
I was looking at a 3060/3070. But after not getting that I was able to get a 2080 (normal) for just the retailprice at launch (3 year old card by then). Same card is now going for 400 more than I paid for it. This market is crazy.
reading comments like this makes me remember back then when i was mad at myself for replacing my 780 to a 2080 at launch, knowing it had the same performance of a 1080ti, i called it a mistake, but peeking the at the market right now, im glad i got what was in hand instead of waiting another year, if video cards market was insane already, now is just a joke...don't want to know about video cards for another 3 years >.>
@@brohofied2561 holy shit my rx 580 is going for 400 quid when i got it for 150 pre pandemic im watching every single pc part i own double in price its insane
Edit: what's worse is that I've got a limited edition version which is 8gb so i don't even want to know how much its worth rn the market needs to be fixed asap
great video! great information. i appreciate your work
Yeah like mentioned by Nvidia, it's a great time to upgrade but if only they weren't twice MSRP and they didn't care enough to take proper precautions to keep scalpers from buying pallets.
11 months I was in in queue before I managed to get a 3080, absolutely ridiculous, and Nvidia instead of meeting the insane demand, decided to cash in and markup the cards further. If I live long enough to manage a new GPU, I will forego team green and jump ship to team red.
Why? They are just as bad if not worse they are not even offering something for the lower generation. They have an even greedier mindset than nVidia but have cleverly manipulated the buying public into thinking they are the saviours and they will be the the consumer's friend. Bollox, they like every Corporate only care about 2 things, their bottom line and their investors. They have used even scummier tactics than nVidia to make money these past couple of years. nVidia just have PR disasters tbh.
@Dark Code He was probably in an EVGA queue or similar. I bought a custom built pre built: I changed virtually everything from their original specification to how I wanted it. Took 4 months for the 3080 to arrive and the build to be completed, and then was changed from Asus Tuf to EVGA but I could live with that as they upgraded motherboard from Z490 to Z590 for free. Cost of the 3080 was original retail price. Scan Computers know they're doing and they kept in the loop all the way.
@@clansome bro really said bollox in text tf. obv sped ^
At least you got a card. I'm still waiting after 13 months
it’s been 14 months and i still can’t buy a 3080, it’s obvious at this point the company straight up refuses to make them, in order to make profits from the 3070
They might be making extra money but they are just damaging their reputation in the long run. Look how well that worked for intel
you forget that people have incredibly short memory and gamers with money are impulsive. in a few years, if prices come down, the drooling gamers will be more than happy to spread their wallets wide open
There is no such thing as reputation when your the only name in the game for graphic cards.... People will continue to buy. No one is ready to stop pc gaming becuz a company wants mad profits.
@@abrahammc2125 _"There is no such thing as reputation when your the only name in the game for graphic cards"_
True.
Intel seems to be doing okay, still printing money it seems (perhaps I'm missing some information?). There are enough consumers willing to pay for their stuff to cover any loss from reputation (reputation has very limited value at their size). Put another way, as long as people are giving them money, they will not change (and why would they? Its working). Consumers also have short memories and forgive offenses too quickly for companies to really care beyond the next fiscal quarter.
If you want INTEL to change...stop giving them your money.
If you want AMD to change...stop giving them your money.
If you want NVIDIA to change...stop giving them your money.
If you want Apple to change...stop giving them your money.
Same for any brand/company, stop giving them your money and they may eventually change. Once they have your money your leverage is gone.
Unless THEY are paying YOU to use their products, you have no obligation to keep supporting them, especially if they are not operating in your best interests.
Your rants are the reason I subscribe 😁
Thanks for speaking the truth as always Jay. Maybe one day we will see prices return to normal. I have honestly contemplated switching to console since I still have a gtx 970. Still, paying $10 a month for online connectivity makes inflated GPU prices still cheaper over the course of 3-4 years. I am planning to hold out one maybe two more years for another gpu. I am stubborn and give in to current prices and I feel like I would be feeding into this sellers market if I did.
Honestly consoles are the best bet in this market situation. Or wait till mid summer 2022 when semiconducter production ramps up and global supply gets close to demand.
Remember how nvidia claimed it tries to fight the miners while selling them truckloads of 3070 FE's? Yeah thats how much they care about gaming
And still potentially 1+ year before anything changes on the shortage front. Oh joy.
If only that story had legitimate proof. Im all for bashing where due, but unproven rumors are really not what we should be basing our opinions on.
@@b-rant they owned up to it on twitter and wrote a message basically saying “sorry we got caught”
Not rumours lol, it happened!
maybe we should show up on their door steps i bet their attitudes change then
@@OfficialDarku any sources to check on that?
5:40 I absolutly agree on that. I was willing to spend the money and upgrade my 1080 to a 3080 (founders edition) but I was not able to get my hands on any card in the past 1,5 year (for a reasonable price)
Nvidia just dug their own grave with their behaviour towards customers. For me, with the way they are behaving and smashing customers in their faces, it feels like it is all about the money...
I really supported and enjoyed their product in the past but I was immensely disapointed latley. Feels like management and greed killed the brand :(
Will Intel save the day? Ironically they were ones seen as the bad guys for being anti competitive and greedy
@@Benjamin-wy4dj unless this guy is not gonna use anything at all there is no option. All of them have the "behavior"
just get the 2080 lol
well then buy amd instead :D
Customers have exhibited that they are willing to pay ultra premium prices so why would they capitalize on that? Its dumb to think that a company would not act like a compang
06:54 completely agree they should try to focus on supplying backlog demand rather than make new card
I agree, it's bad timing. However, I am glad I recently received a notification from EVGA that I was next in line for an RTX3080. Love this card. I signed up in June.
how much
I signed up in Dec 2020 and still haven't heard anything
@@johnyguitar258 $1K Current MSRP
@@Captain-Chats I signed up for a lot of them the one I purchased was the 3080 FTW3, sorry to hear you're still waiting. Hopefully soon.
@@paulbeam4499 thats fucking great
What you call "a disconnect between reality" they call "providing continuing return to shareholders." As long as these companies (hardware and software) are driven solely by quarterly earnings reports, they will never care about the customers.
Pretty much. Profit above everything else.
Just goes to show how f'd the stock market is. "Value investor" is no longer a thing, investors will freak out if sales dip for a single quarter. Nvidia's current strategy will hurt them bad in the long term unless they plan to make miners their main customers from now on.
I feel like serving your customers may not net as many gains in the short term- but smart decisions hand in hand with loving customers takes you to the upper stratosphere for shareholders. Maybe Im fucking wrong who knows.
as long as customers continue to pay the price, they'll continue to be happy charging it....
@@paulmdevenney 👍 "these corpos are evil"
New gpu drops
"Take my money!"
When the 3000 series cards were released I was thinking I should get a sick deal on a 2060 70 or 80 but that fell apart super quick. I still love my 1070 tho.
Im with ya brother. 1070 for life.
@@Paultimate7 1070 here also
Ah yes, I was waiting for the exact same thing. Now I am cursing myself for not pulling the trigger early xD
@@SirNoobWulf right what you said mate.. feeling it deep in my heart lmao
1070 gang represent
The problem is that video cards ceased to be, for the most part, a consummer-only piece of equipment to become an asset that produces returns far above any other financial investment available through cryptomining. This change in use has its impact in the market as they have been priced more like capital assets than consumer goods. This overlap will continue to drive their prices up until such a point where gpu mining is not profitable, or at least not as profitable as the next most profitable alternative use for the capital that is currently allocated to cryptomining. Mostly I'd just advise to wait until ETH changes to POS. When it does happen the markets will be scrambled to such an extent in the first few days/weeks that GPU prices will, likely, drop substantially or, at least, demand from miners will grind to a halt while they decide what to do next.
we will just move to mining a different coin, it wont stop anything
@@fezzial Long term you're absolutely correct: so long as crypto is profitable people won't stop doing it. In the short term, everyone else that wants a video card for consumption might benefit from the necessary readjustment that cryptomining markets will have to undergo when ETH becomes POS.
Can’t wait for Proof of Stake. Proof of Work algos are the equivalent of the old vacuum tube technology; extremely slow, extremely expensive, and extremely wasteful.
We need to aspire to better technology and those using PoW should be taking responsibility for the harms and waste that algo causes and pushing networks to more efficient algos.
agreed a big part of the problem is government regulation, lobbiests got the price to play so high that the other companies that used to make gpu's had tp sell out or go out of business. without market competition prices will only go up! and you can argue amd is competition but 2 players isnt enough as they can just silently agree to keep prices above a certain point as its good for both!
@@fezzial I suspect the HUGE "factory" mines overseas will likely NOT want to mine some other coin and will want to cashout and sell there hardware off
also 90% of the mining power is on ETH so once the "merge" happens and you can NOT mine ETH that computing power going onto other coins will drive down the profitability
I believe there will be a down turn on mining AND a card selloff
lots of miners will buy up cards "cheap" and will MINE till the cows come home to "HODL" some coin
It's sad watching GPU prices. For example, I looked up my 1050ti on Newegg, eBay, and Amazon and it's selling for $330 to $380 for refurbished cards. I paid $130 about 4 years ago... I'll play new games at 1080p low settings rather than having to sell my kidney for the CHANCE of scoring a mid-range 3000 series card.
One note, the 3080Ti is very heavily available here in my european country, for between 2 and 2.4K €. There is NONE 3080's available and have not been for near since launch (except when in queue). I can't help but 100% believe that all this nonsense is partly manipulated by Nvidia, nothing would stop them from making 3080's, but they want the TIE on there so they can upmark and ask a ridiculous minimum of 2K . Disgusting. I was superlucky to get my 3080 for the initial retail price, but man I feel very sorry for everyone that has to replace a card or pc due something breaking. Disgusting practices. There is no other word.
Im really glad that i got my 2080ti on launch and it still runs excellent. But man am i scared that its going to break down, i mean theres no reason to, because it is not that old. But it still makes me paranoid because i couldnt afford a suitable replacement atm. Also i totally agree with you, 3080 TIE's were pretty much always in stock here in switzerland but i never saw a single 3080, seems fishy.
I would need to shoot the brain out of my head first before I buy gaming gpu for 2k€+....
There are a few here too. But most stocks are AMD (mostly 6900 XT and 6600) or crazy expensive 3090 so... 3060 and 70, including the Ti, and RX 6600 and 6700 XT go away fast
Had to pick up a 3070ti when my 1080 died. Luckily the regular 3070 was 1050 euro and the ti was 1200 euro. It has helped me with living in denial and to make me believe I made a good deal!
Just checked the prices and 3090's are being sold at $4k around here. No idea what 3090 ti's are gonna cost and who is mad enough to buy them.
I’ve been happy with my MSI 2070 super since launch, does 4K on some older/newish games like Dark Souls 3 and runs well on 1440p with most modern games with high/max settings. Definitely not paying premium prices for an upgrade. True gamers will enjoy a good game, doesn’t matter if its running 4k maxed setting and max fps or med/high setting with average fps.
true gaymers
Im running the same card as well. Got the MSI 2070 super ventus OC edition. I completely did a new build/upgrade to my PC right at the start of covid. Everybody was saying don't buy because prices were a tad bit inflated. and man oh man thank GOODNESS I did. My Geforce GTX 660Ti would not be holding up very well in warzone lmao. My msi card has yet to let me down at all. (Besides cyberpunk 2077, but I mean every card did) Runs great, looks great, stays cool, great software compatibility. I bought mine brand new for $550. They're selling used last time I checked for over $1000.......
@@TheOfficialJayP mature bud.
@@RedScreens4DayZ Same here, I’ve got the 2070 Super MSI gaming trio edition which hasn’t let me down, runs everything at a decent setting. Price of mine shot up too so am feeling the same about building mine when I did.
@@davenexus3532 I spent about 3.5k on both new and used parts for a gaming/studio setup (PC, Monitors, big sound system, lighting, wall+ceiling acoustic paneling, M/k etc). I finished it right before everything went downhill and it was about a 2 year project. To my surprise about 6 months later almost everything I had bought in that time had either became unobtanium, or doubled in price. I only managed to get half of that stuff due to good deals/sales at the time and most of that budget went to the sound system. PC I built for about 1400usd (2070, 3800x, 32gb of ram, and 3 tb of memory). I sure hope it all holds up for a good while longer, because fuck that.
This sparked a memory of the weeks leading up to the 3000 launch. 1.5x performance for half price! I was hyped...amped...excited...and INTERESTED. I've waited it out for too long and haven't thought about ANY upgrade for about a year.
Just switch to amd. I picked up a 6900xt for retail on Newegg and I’m in love. Coming from a 1080ti I’ve maxed out quality settings on every game I play and still max out my 165hz 1440 monitor.
I did the same. Seemless performance for my multimedia setup.
@@buschg7106 right! Made the switch and haven’t looked back.
Love these videos man.. I wish more YT Content creators were as honest and ranty as you, Jay! Thanks for your hard work man, to you and your crew. Cheers
Team red seems the better choice these days. From an inovative point of view they impressed me at the keynote. Special their eco system for mobile computing looks promising.
If you think about it they sold out all their cards so they have reasons to keep making new ones. As long as a retail or a scalper by them the result is that they sell their cards.
I made the mistake of looking at GPUs again, thinking of upgrading from my 1080. It's not any better than it was a year ago.
Yeah
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@@sleempy6343 Yep
Yeah
Mhm
Indeed
Sounds to me they're responding exactly to what is happening in the market, regardless of whether or not you like it. People are paying crazy money for 3080/90's. Why would a for profit business not take their piece of that low hanging fruit rather than let the scalpers get it all?
And if they could have used that silicon to make more 3080s instead of a handful of 3090 Ti, would they not have made more money than the route they chose? Jay's point is valid - Nvidia is shooting themselves in the foot to spite AMD and appease their investors who blindly want "innovation," instead of appeasing their own financial statements and consumers. Linus made a valid point when talking about Intel - sometimes with tech, innovation that excites investors matters more to a stock price than making boring decisions that make huge profits.
Little corection. No ordinary ppl, but miners. No sane user/gamer will pay 2k$+ for just gpu it self.
His rant isnt a problem about the logic of a for profit company doing something for profit, his rant is the problem with the morality of the decision when the company is extremely well aware of how the situation is. Its literally in the thumbnail, he isnt mad, hes disappointed.
@@johnrehak Plenty of sane people get them to play games, they are just the people who want "the best of the best" all the time. They dont care about the difference between 100fps and 300fps... they just want the best for whatever reason.
@@haydenlong3764 Sadly, companies that use morals in their decision making tend to not do very well. As sad as it is, their main goal is to "Maximize Shareholder Value", ie. f__k everyone as badly as possible to keep the liesure class nice and comfortable. At some point, this philosophy of 'capitalism uber alles' is going to implode on itself, but sadly it won't happen for a while.
Like most I wanted to go from 20 to 30 card but at this point with the prices and shortage what do you guys think keep rocking 2080 ti and wait for things to get better?
I would say I'm shocked but I'd be lying. Appreciate the video and news as always Jay!
The only thing I liked, were the new G-Sync 1440p 360hz displays and the option to switch to 1080p. Excited for those ones!
And yes I totally agree with your Statement, but well it's Nvidia beeing Nvidia. Let's hope the 4000 series and 7000 AMD series will be more available.
the Hyperion 8 system seems pretty cool too.
I swear Jay gets an aura around his face when he rants but so far he always hits the nail on the head! Keep it up Jay! Love your channel
This is spot on. Thank you for your realistic analysis.
I think you are spot on with what you are saying. I am running an Asus GTX 1660 Super and it does well, but wanted to upgrade where I am getting into streaming. I think I am going to hold off and see what the next few months brings. I really wanted a 3090 and not have to worry about upgrading for a long while, but I want to see what happens when the announce the 40 series, and if maybe if will have a price effect on the 30 series. However, I am not holding my breath!
Jay, I'm so glad I've come across your channel a few months ago. Between you and Gamers Nexus, I've learned a lot and enjoy the content. I appreciate all that you do and the fact that you're not afraid to put a company out there. Some companies never learn, but it's nice to see others paying attention and correcting their faults. So I now know what companies to deal with on my next build, and Nvidia isn't going to be one of them. Be safe and keep up the good work. Thank you!
@@spankbuda3084 Cousins actually.
@Jim Mahmud Right... AMD cares about there custommers? That's why it took them more than a year, just to patch there drivers for the black screen crashes almost everybody had since the launch of Adrenaline 2020 xD... Never ever going to buy a AMD GPU, love there CPU's, but no AMD GPU's for me!!! xD
@@Othmar420 the performance jump from the 5000XTs to the 6000XTs was HUGE. They did a massive uptick. It took them time to adjust. Are they perfect? fk no. But, at least you can BUY an AMD. I waited a year for the 3080/3090 to come in stock and not be marked up in price to the moon....a year later, i gave up and bought a 6900XT and havnt had any issues with it.
@@Othmar420 That's fine. AMD GPU's are a waste of silicon.
Hey Jason check out LinusTechTips (LTT)! he has a fun take on some stuff but is more of an activist style YT
I think that when the bubble bursts, there's gonna be a second hand market so big neither Nvidia or AMD will be selling anything.
keep dreaming. the same was hoped for after the first mining lull and didn't happen then either.
the crypto community is an internal cycle, cards move down the chain until not useful anymore. by that time usually they are very old or done anyways, so its not even worth the work to sell them apart from bulk sales, which is not leaking into the DIY market.
if ppl are seriously looking for cards the best bet is to save up. this is not going to change anytime soon.
no one is willing to buy second hand. Unless you are a miner yourself. If retail and used markets both drop why pay the same amount for a used card when u can buy a new card with warranty
@@TNM001I bought a Evga 1660 super new from newegg in may 2020 and paid -$240 usd right after the Bitcoin crash. Also got 3200mhz 16gb ram for -$80 around the same time. (ie 3000mhz 16gb kits were going for $150 during Bitcoin shortage if I remember correctly)
If consoles stay around the $200-$500 mark, I bet lower-end new-stock GPUs will have to make a resurgence for PC gaming to stay relevant. There is a void rn, I wonder if any other companies are secretly scrambling to bring a new GPU to market, something like a 1060 6gb and take advantage of the situation.
@@TNM001 The crypto bubble bursted back in 2018 and the second-hand market was flooded with cheap used cards. If it happens again, it'll just be history repeating itself. I think the best shot of this happening is Ethereum switching to Proof of Stake.
@@NickelLight yea, as i said...a short lull was there, so congrats at buying at the right time.
GPU's are an Oligopoly...the barrier of entry in that market is extremely high. normal market laws don't apply in such an environment.
even Intel will price their GPU's accordingly as long as they can sell everything, and right now, everything sells.
Using a 1660 ti, looking to upgrade to something better but not too expensive. Any recommendations please?
Yup basically at this point waiting over a year myself. I've already decided to completely pass on the 30 series cards and just wait for the 40 series or 50 depending on when those come available. If there is still a chip shortage at that time I'll simply just not upgrade until my current cards completely die.
Wondering if Nvidia’s over-valued share value will plummet when chips are abundant?
It's safe to assume chips won't become abundant. It's not like this entire industry is a stranger to collusion and price fixing...
Yes but overall economy is moving towards a bear market where all prices are on downtrend for many sectors this along with FED interest increase is going to cause overall economy to go to an adjustment and everyone will tighten their belts to cover necessities like food and rent and luxuries like gaming components will drastically come down in price and the tech stocks will plummet due to the dropped demand and the investors will eat this 💩sandwich which they rightly deserve to
Value will plummet when theres new tech goin on/new software.
Like maybe 1GB Cache, that can be used for shadering etc which can neglect RayTracing all together.
I'm gonna wait on AMD to make more gpus. Nvidia doesn't care, Intel has taken its sweet time
Intel's door of opportunity is wide open right now...
I mean who wants to be e guy that buys intels first gen gpus? It’s bad all around. If amd was able to get supply out they could crush the market.
@Nexeno_007 You do know the Intel Arc GPU's are being made on TSMC 6NM, not by Intel right?
Intel is going to be shit, nvidia sells put immediately because it's just simply better than amd and amd cards are dogshit
Well I got a 1050 ti so I assume this will
be a good upgrade
As someone who is trying to build a pc for casual gaming, is either of the 3050s worth getting? Or maybe getting and seeing if I can trade up? Or just keep waiting for something else entirely?
I'm honestly holding out for the 6900XT because I built my new system on the Ryzen 5 platform and I'd like to capitalize on the additional performance AMD claims when you pair their CPU and GPUs.
I just installed one this past Friday to go with my 5900x and it shreds. I unlocked my fps in Vanguard on 1440p was getting 400fps in multiplayer lol.
I know in Australia at the very least you can buy a 6900xt for literally half the price of an average 3090 right now. When it comes to price vs performance nvidia cards are just too unreasonable and the 3090ti will just continue that trend unfortunatly.
I'd agree the 6800xt is available cheaper and runs like a dream
Ye the only problem is, what I have, is a lot of issues with the AMD software. If I touch settings it starts FPS lagging. For some reason windows/AMD keeps clearing the software (already tried multiple things but if you have good idea or a solve, please do tell :)), as in I can't open AMD software anymore, however the GPU works like it did when the software was installed for some reason, all programs I use to monitor my GPU won't see my GPU anymore until I clean and reinstall the AMD software which after a couple of times gets quiet annoying.
@@yarredpel9779 i cant offer much in terms of software i havnt had many problems but for controlling the gpu msi afterburner is good and just uodating the drivers and windows and hoping for the best
@@yarredpel9779 i have the same issue. Tried to block the winupdate from dl the thing that ruins the software. But every now and then it slips thru anyway so I've to reinstall it and make sure windows doesn't start the update right away. Many ppl have this issue. Win 10 haven't tried win11 yet.
@@zXSleeZy Ye that is what I do as well, its just getting annoying. I will try windows 11 somewhere later this week/next week I'll keep you updated.
Thanks for making this it needs to be said
While I'm still waiting for my legion 7 3080, they really should of tried to speed up production but like you said they gotta cater to their investors.
Totally agree. It's ridiculous how these companies keep doing the same and we're still buying. I've been on the EVGA waiting list for over a year now, and still nothing... I don't even want it anymore, I got a 6800XT and I'm happy with it, but I can't help to think "imagine if I were still waiting to get a 3080..." and then I just get mad 😂
You should happy with the 6800XT it's are beast of are GPU I have are 6800 XT Aorus Master my self, getting up early hitting refresh on online PC stores paid off in the end 😉
Thank you for being so willing to do the right thing Jay. We need more courage and balls in the tech press.
Maybe he will become the the legendary one to go as the gods call it BALLS DEEP
Your two cents resonate loud and clear.
Completely agree. The 40 series cards are almost launching and we still haven’t seen a 3080
Is it really that hard to get? I shopped around several 'brick and mortar' shops, all of them stocked them, and ended up picking one up pretty easy literally only 2 weeks ago.
Do tell us where
@@Direkin MSRP?
@@Direkin The issue is I don't think there are many computer part shops; my local Best Buy only carries entry level crap, and Fry's Electronics which was the only store that carried high end computer hardware near me went out of business. Micro Center is long drive away from me.
@@whereta3097 Not at MSRP, that's not going to happen for a while, just pointing out that at least where I am most computer shops have 3080s, 3080 Tis, and 3090s in stock.
We love your content bro keep it up 🥰
I have my Legion 7I with a 2070 Super Max-q and I love it, I don't feel the need to swap it for the same model that comes with the 30 series at all, specially not for the price!
I just finished my pc a few days ago, but I have to run it without a gpu because while there’s a 2060 at my local computer store, it can only be bought with a system and it’s $2200
I honestly gave up on getting a 3080, maybe 3090 if I could get my hands on it. Decided to pick up a 6900 XT off newegg since it was in stock. Arrived next day, been a great experience since.
6900xt is great card and beats the 3080ti and 3080 at 99% games.I tried to get one but found 3080 cheaper in cad (canadian) money but i might sell it and get that 6900xt just for that 16gb of vram.
Nvidia deciding let's do core count creep on the enthusiast cards instead of innovation or building loyalty. Is going to be a hard pill for them to swallow in a few years when the enthusiasts are buying AMD & Intel.
The problem is that AMD started doing the same and i doubt intel will be the good guy here.
@@nemtudom5074 Possibly but in a three way knife fight in a phonebooth. You really don't want to be the little guy that's been playing dirty;)
@@nemtudom5074 if intel is your best friend, you have future problems for sure
Intel is new to discrete GPU’s and are known to be expensive. As for AMD even if they can match or win in rasterization performance their features are mediocre compared to Nvidia.
AMD is focused on the Console market at the moment and is the David in front of two Goliaths with over 80% market share in the segments. Both Intel (CPU) and Nvidia (GPU) have a near-monopoly in their segments with over 80% market shares in their areas. AMD lost shares in the CPU-market because people are crazy after the power hogging Intel-CPU's and I think that is one part they concentrate on in the future to get that share back. I'll never understand why somebody wants an Intel that uses more than 300W and don't use an AMD that takes less than half the power overclocked, especially with the rising power costs.
Looks like I'm going to have an RTX 2060 forever at this point! :( That pricing is insane. 7 or 800 used to be XX80 Ti level. 3K for a 3090?! 3080 for 700, is better, but the XX80 series used to be about 500. :((
They should have talked about production volumes. How many more cards will they deliver this year compared to last year.
The same amount: which was not enough 😂😭
@@syf_jojiahhh2834 you're phrasing it wrong... they'll deliver "just enough to keep the prices sky high" 😉
If they revealed that they'd also have to reveal how many they're selling straight to their #1 customer: cryptominers. At this point they're just pretending to care about gamers so they have a couch to crash on once their fling with cryptominers is over.
And to not just throw shade at Nvidia, is AMD even making GPUs anymore or are they just pretending to while they focus on their cpus and console chips? (and giving resolution upscaling support to Nvidia cards that Nvidia won't or can't give support to)
@@cileavictoria1229 there are 100's of "AMD" 6600 / XT cards around but the PRICING is the issue
I bet you could build a mining farm with the number of 6600s assuming you will drop $800 on a $300 card
When the announcement ended the 3090ti was already out of stock