I Secretly Joined the Gym thats a SCAM *Exposing Orangetheory Fitness*
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I went to a class without realizing that half the class was RUNNING like you want me to pay to run on a treadmill😭
Yes why I didn’t like it
I used to be a member, and one day I caught a glimpse of the coach’s clip board while we had a couple guests trialing the class. The sheet mentioned one person was local, but the other was just visiting and therefore a “lost cause.” Felt kinda icky the rest of the class hearing the coach hype up the local guest while totally ignoring her friend. Really made it obvious that we’re just numbers and not valued members.
THIS EXACTLY!!!! I forgot about this energy 😭😭 so sad
Same thing happens in the barbershop hype up the new local vs the new guy just passing through 🤫
Ew that's gross
Oh not everyone gets ignored. I visited my brother out of state and went to his Orange Theory and was extremely called out. I told them up front I really need to not push it too.
I've been the visiting guest. I was there with my cousin and I was supposed to pay for the session, but they didn't charge me. I was very glad they would at least let me workout there...with family I never get to see.... while being out of state and not having access to anything....I would have gladly paid.
When I did my free class there, I HATED that they called me out as new. I desperately just wanted to blend into the crowd.
Yes!! I was visiting my brother and wouldn’t ever be joining but they kept calling me out. Hated it.
dude throughout my entire free class my trainer kept calling out how i was in the red zone 😭
It's classic cult behavior to do that with new people. Red flag!
I love all the “allegedly”s 😂
Letterkenny vibes lol
Prime CYA language. We must respect it!
I was visiting a city with an orangetheory and since I've heard about how good of a workout it is, I wanted to take a class while I was there. On Tuesday, I signed up for a class on Thursday. Between signing up and the time of my class, they called me 20 TIMES and texted me 6 times. I didn't go to the class because I just got so turned off by how preyed upon I felt before even walking in the door. So shady!
20 TIMES in just 2 days is a lot. Why call if the customer has already signed up for it. That's like wasting your sales rep's energy lol
Thats so aggressive! Is that even legal?
I had this experience with them too! It was too much,
Ugh how annoying! That is a huge turn off I would also not show up lol. I think I'm just going to start putting in my spam email address and secondary phone number if there ever is a sign in sheet ;)
same. they even followed me on instagram. i blocked them
As a small gym franchisee, the financial pressure can be overwhelming. Losing money most months of the year. Went into it because I was passionate about it. But have now lost my life savings, my house, etc. Some bigger franchisees can weather these financial pressures, but small single unit franchisees often face an insurmountable uphill battle. You sign a ten year contract with the franchisor, plus ten years with the landlord, and can’t get out without declaring bankruptcy. You’re locked in. The fitness industry is a high risk endeavor.
I’m sorry this happened! How heart 💔
But alex hormozi told me it was super easy
@@colossicus555he made 100 million selling and buying gyms.
Noted 📝
Great point
Make this a series with other companies too! Really insightful for comparing membership choices
Yes would love that
SoulCycle please 🙏 😂
This link happened to be in my next up as I read your comment! Keltie reviews "F45, Barry's, Soul Cycle, and more" czcams.com/video/GADfNZHjumU/video.html
As a 1.5+ year member who’s actually obsessed with OTF, this makes me extra thankful for my studio. Our coaches and SAs don’t do most of these things, even when I took my first class, and our little community is the sweetest! Definitely location-based as Keltie said!!
The owner of the OTF franchise in my city makes a point of spending time with customers and coaching her own classes. The first class I took she sat down with me to get to know me and that’s when I realized she got to know her members by name, every single one of us and I think the trainers are encouraged to do so as well. That alone made me come back and trust I was being lead by people who actually care about the work they do. Tbf I think OTF is really for people who either have never worked out in their life or haven’t worked out in years to get into the habit again.
I absolutely love this for you!! This is an example of the franchise location being passionate about community & fitness 🥹 give them a high five from me!!
Same. The team at my location is great and doesn't hard sell. It's one of the reasons I'm so comfortable there.
The whole color zone thing doesn't factor into my thinking or reasons for being there -- the community aspect allows me to challenge myself and hold myself accountable without having to figure out what exercises to do when I go to the gym and the coaches allow for my form on the Floor to be corrected if needed.
Different gym, but once I went through a sales pitch at a gym and they asked what my goals were. I said, I’d like to work on my stress management and maybe lose about 10 pounds. The guy (20 something year old talking to a mid 30s mom of 3) said, I think you could lose 20. 😳
OH MY GOD NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! 💀💀💀💀💀💀
The NERVE
@@thelittlemuffet right?? He was lucky I am not into confrontation. 😂
Damn that’s brutal
WOW. Em no! Bye. He asked for your fitness goals and then made you feel shitty. I would never go back!
PLEASE not me watching this at work…i work at orange theory 😭😭 i just started like 2 months ago and i like it actually ! i will say the memberships are so pricey though id never pay that much 💀 but i get to workout for free sooo
The absolutely IRONY hahhah! Hope you feel seen in this 🤣🫶
@@KeltieOConnor LOLL oh absolutely, i thought it was hilarious i had to click right away. anyway can’t wait to see what you have to say, im gonna finish watching when i get home 🫶🏻
If i was Jeff Bezos and didn’t like orange theory and i would start a red theory next to each orange theory and charge 1/3 the price with the similar generic hiit/mix program.
@@unlitrashhope you have a great day at work!!! 🫶🫶
@@KeltieOConnor i did thank you!! just watched and i will say you hit the nail on the head, i 100% agree with you about everything
1. i’m a SA and i hate!! the sales tactics, we def don’t get paid as much as we should to be pushing this hard to sell memberships. i hate how gyms are lowkey kinda predatory nowadays:/
2. at my location (im in the US) we don’t have a sign in sheet like that; we do call logs but they make us do it w/ ppl that didn’t sign up, or ppl who call that are interested. i hate calling dw, i really wish people would say they’re not interested right away bc i hate being so pushy
3. i do wish there was a bit more passion for getting people healthy not selling stuff but i think it also depends on the coach
4. pricey but the community aspect is def there, everybody is really nice and full of energy which i like, and also working out in groups is sm more motivating to me
all in all i think is subjective but if you like it, great! for sure best job ive hard (so far); my manager is very nice and lenient, i get to sit down, 5min commute and the hours are not crazy and ofc i get to workout for free. sadly the pay isn’t the best to cover all expenses but it’s fine for now while i figure out my life, other than that great video like always 🤍and sorry this was long LMFAO
I’m an Orangetheory coach part-time (was a member for a while beforehand). My full time job is marketing and I agree they OD with the heart rate tactics and I feel so bad for our front desk team having a large sales goal.
I always sneak in jokes on the mic “don’t worry about 12 splat points, it’s just for the orange aesthetic.” 😅
But for most people 3-4x per week at OTF is great, especially if you enjoy short runs and some full body lifting.
They also have tread/strength only classes for 50 minutes which has been a great implementation.
Love the video 🧡
I wish I could take one of your classes I would giggle so hard about the ignoring 12 splay points HAHAHHA! You sound like an amazing trainer 🩵 so happy you enjoyed the video ☺️
I hated it. I used to do bootcamp, heavy lifting and boxing so I understand how to workout. I struggled getting in and out of the rower and holding up the group. The coach's never corrected form and people are disasters.
But the pressure to run and the teammate aspect... sucked.
I will stick with bootcamp and a personal trainer once a week.
Former OTF coach I’m glad someone is sharing this info! It always felt so sleezy as a coach I was trained that it’s a workout intended to be done 3 times a week maximum, but encouraged to “prescribe” a member a number of classes that would require the unlimited monthly membership (I wouldn’t do it). I always told people once a week for that type of training was plenty, but a lot of people did 2x a day, or everyday from the start and were way overtraining. The coaches also get sales incentives, not commissions but bonuses on members signing up and were also encouraged to call/email. I just wanted to coach but also became a sales person.
My mom teaches CPR and most of the stories that scared people into learning CPR is someone needing it at their Orangetheory class. One of my head coaches didn’t actually know cpr and someone needed it in her class. It’s not always safe/healthy to gamify fitness even if you’re competing against yourself!
Almost five year OTF member here and coming upon my 1000 class. I LOVE my OTF studio and the workouts ❤
I’m at 175 and obsessed. I used to have a personal trainer for weight lifting and it was $60 an hour. I went to OTF because I thought it was so affordable 😝
4years here. Still go about 3-4 times a week. I love OTF and the people here. It’s been great to keep in shape and to learn new things when I was a beginner. I will not give it up. Im not sure what to think of this video. I usually enjoy Kelties videos but I can’t seem to agree with some of her points here.
Same here I am 400+ workouts and love it! I think this video is a bit biased and doesn't really offer anything good about OTF. They don't really market the "orange theroy" anymore anyway. Where I am they don't even make us wear the heart rate monitor if we don't want to.
@@tamalee534 you should agree with her. She didn't exactly bash them. You as a "customer" buy what you like. And that's fine. The true victims are the fitness trainers who thought they were going to be trainers but have to be a usedcar salesmen, so maybe she shouldve framed it more this way instead of it about customers. Some people really like these types of workouts and are willing to pay for it. Therefore there's a market for it, and it's priced appropriately based in the number of membership acquisition and participation, etc. So if it's going to be good for you or not depends on you, ultimately.
Same here.. I love it. Of course they have to sell memberships. It is a business. I do not agree with this assessment at all. 😑
I quit OTF after I got injured during a class and the coach/front desk staff treated me like I was the biggest inconvenience they had ever met. Got a doctor’s note and used that to cancel my membership. Never going back!
I must be lucky! I LOVE my Orange Theory, the staff, the community, the workouts. I've lost 45lbs since last October (combined with sobriety). You are spot on about the over-hyped "science based" claims though which extends to their obsession with the inbody scans.
congrats! keep going!!
I applied for a job at Orange theory 1 year ago and SOOO thankful it didnt work out. I have worked at Crunch Fitness for around 1 year and they ALWAYS have a 5ish min warm up and cool down programmed into our 45 min HIIT workouts. One of the big things that matters to me in teaching group fitness is actually teaching the group about WHY we're doing what we are in the programming. Its like a dose of medicine, you gotta find the perfect amount/type for you❤🙌
I love that last line! All about what works best for you 🩵
I used to do hiit classes 5 times a week at crunch and realized I wasn't getting stronger which is what I wanted. Over time I learned to go strong in some exercises and not all and to do hiit classes a few times a week and do my own fun workouts other days. I've gotten so much stronger..except now I have shoulder issues and may need shoulder surgery after 2 rounds of failed PT and no improvement after pain shots
Work on stability!!!
Maybe the group fitness classes are better, but the pay structure and time demands for personal trainers at Crunch was awful. Terrible at best, borderline illegal at worse.
@davida730 for the personal trainers YES. I completely agree, I tried it for a few months and went back to Group Fitness instructor which pay very well and are on a consistent weekly schedule.
@@davida730 yeah all the employees at crunch tell us how little they get paid..it's usually a first fitness job for them so workers usually stay like less than 5 year before moving elsewhere or on their own.
I went once, it was a pretty good workout. But I told them I was limited because of knee issues and the trainer still acted completely surprised every time I couldn’t do a certain move. What really kept me away was how many times I was called after the first class. It was multiple times a day, everyday. I truly considered going back but when I realized how slimy the sales tactics were, count me out, there’s no way those people were getting a card number from me. The phone number was bad enough.
Some gyms don't even pay their front desk staff - you just work for "a free membership" which is actually NOT free since you are required to work a certain number of hours to compensate for the FULL membership price (not even a staff discount, you work off the same full price as a regular client!). And then they still expect you to also be a sales associate when you don't even make any commission either (!) ask me how I know 😡😡
How is that legal??
@@Ruffles2012 you're not a hired employee, so your tax information isn't collected, you're considered a volunteer who is compensated for their time with a free membership. it's a lot more common than you think, and it's how places cut costs by taking advantage of people who really love fitness and maybe can't afford the expensive membership so they're willing to work for free in order to go there. it sucks and is a shitty business practice, but it's legal!
That’s cap. Orange theory would for sure get sued if this was true.
@@archimedes_espinosa I wasn't talking about Orange Theory specifically because I haven't worked there, but regardless they wouldn't get sued because it's not an illegal practice, it's referred to as "work for trade" in the US and there are plenty of places that do it.
I was an OTF member for a while in 2022 and let me just say I clicked on this video SO FAST when I saw it in my feed. I was moving away from my home gym and cancelling with them (OrangeTheory DC) was a Nightmare with a capital N. I called them several times over the course of a month before I escalated things (aka yelling at the sales rep) that I wanted the manager to process my cancellation and I was tired of them pushing me around. I kid you not, they told me that they were working on "processing my cancellation" like 6 times. I will Never again sign up for Orange Theory because of this gym in Washington DC.
Which is why I don't put my actual info on the call sheets. Don't call me. I just came in for a free session in your kill room. Honestly, why are the lights off? It's creepy. I would like to see my surroundings when I die.
Girl not KILL ROOM LOL~!
Lmfaooo
Dead 💀
I put my spam email address and old work number lol. I just came in to try your free class.
I absolutely CANNOT STAND the orange lighting, the huuuge blaring motivational texts, loud mics yelling instructions non stop, constantly flashing stats on screens. I felt so frazzled going from one station to another, I could not focus on anything. I mean I did break a sweat but I felt anxious and stressed out and overstimulated. Never again.
I will stick with my pilates and hot yoga, then do my own cardio outdoors.
I know this is a little late, but I absolutely loooved last week's running video. I watched it in chunks over the week (when I should've been writing an essay) and it helped me get through all my weekly tasks... (essay is now done ✅). Can't wait to watch this one! 💕
So happy I could join you throughout the week! That one was a long one so don’t blame you for breaking it up, congrats on finishing the essay 🩵
Been a member for 6 years and still love it. Recently upgraded to Premier membership. I never felt pressured to upgrade. Love my coaches. Personally think it’s a case by case basis with studios.
Defiantly franchise to franchise! Love that you’re is so welcoming and encouraging! Keep it up 👏🏻
I'm glad you mention each OTF is different! I work casually at a local OTF and I think it's important to mention that depending on where you live will depend on the price. Also, the staff makes a huge difference! My location is super chill, and we are gonna give you our prices and get you to buy, but we aren't worried if you don't buy. Community is more important, as you mentioned!
Finally, I def take people off the call list if you seem totally uninterested or if you just straight tell me you don't want to. Like ok cool, I dont wanna bother you either! It's so annoying to call people who are obviously not interested.
LOVE!!! The location that focus on community have a way to my heart 🩵 most important part of a fitness studio! Give your location a high five from me and they get my A+ gold star gym award hehe 🏆
I worked at orange theory as a salesperson - we were given scripts and instructed to call every person in our database at increments of 24 hours for 3 weeks then we bump them down ro 72 hours - it felt like HARASSMENT! Also I got my personal training certification and wanted to transition into a coach role, and they refused to pay me for a week of 40 hour mandatory training…. So I quit.
OTF coach here- let me just say that it totally depends on the location! We are franchises so each studio is owned by a different person or company. The class is a useful way for people who don’t want to think about what to do and want to follow a plan and stay consistent. I think the best way to avoid being harassed by SAs is that if you’re not interested in purchasing a membership to let them know to take you off of the call list! Communication is key and most of us appreciate your honesty as to why you’re in the studio!
I tell my intros- green is good!!! We want that recovery and majority of minutes in the green with a few in orange
Great video, Keltie! (Allegedly). I also hate the sales tactics but I get why they do it. I actually have been going to orange theory for a little over a year and enjoy it. I live in an area where there aren't a lot of other class-based fitness places to try out and orange theory works for me. My location has great trainers and good people of all walks of fitness which is nice. It's also the only gym I've gone to where after missing almost a week due to illness they reached out to me to see how I was doing and when I'll be back!
The best gym is the one you go to often :)
Thank you!! I have a low resting heart rate (50s) and was killing myself trying to stay in the orange zone when trying a workout at Orangetheory!! I appreciate you explaining that... and all the "allegedly's" 😂
I also have a low RHR and it takes a long time to go up in cardio sessions... Cardio is funny in how the fitter you get, the fewer calories you supposedly burn unless you're pushing yourself like crazy
I wish gyms installed sound level meters and weren't allowed to play music louder than is healthy. Hearing health is just as important as physical health!
Loved this video!! Also *loved* the glimpses of Davie Street. I, too, checked out the various downtown Vancouver gyms back in the early 90’s when I lived in the West End 🙂 Looking forward to the Barry’s video!
Hey Keltie, I'm loving your videos. Thanks so much!
Can you please create a warm up video? I'd love to learn how to do it properly!
I used to work at OTF in February 2024, but left due to not knowing I was pregnant. I didn't have any PTO days so I quit. They took away the sales commission for the DFW Texas area. Not sure other locations globally but I was the top sales person in Dec 2023 and saw no additional pay, not even my name on a board. It was truly sad honestly.
Former Temple Manager here... Sounds like the same boss I had who also owned DFW studios.. 🤣
I appreciate that you’re so dedicated to provide great videos ❤
I appreciate that you enjoy them!!!
Thank you for this! Really fascinating to understand these sales tactics. I'm in the UK, ad OTF isn't widespread yet, but feel a lot of these tactics are very similar to those used by all sorts of gyms. I find them intimidating and hard to say "no" to - I've ended up with SO MANY memberships (to all sorts of things) I didn't want because I buy into the sales tactics. (It doesn't help that I'm autistic, and one of my traits is I see the best in everyone / everything / want to make people feel good by supporting them!). It's so helpful to see 'behind the curtain'. Thank you, Keltie! Also, the reminder I don't need my heart rate in zone 5 for a whole 60 mins was helpful, and that it's a good thing to warm up and mobilise before exercise - I need to buy into the 'less is more' way of thinking....
Alledgedly....Love you Keltie
ILY!!!!
You got to keep that “allegedly” in there to be a top CZcamsr…
I’m currently in my weight loss journey, so I’ve been watching a ton of workout/exercise influencers lately. I wanna say I absolutely LOVED your video. It was informative and funny. I love your style. You got a new sub, Keltie!
Welcome to the channel Tdavis! Good luck on your weight loss journey 👊🏼
@@KeltieOConnor thank you!
Thanks for sharing this, I was actually thinking about giving them a try and signing up for a membership. I'm glad I saw this first.
Ahahah I LOVED THIS! i worked at the kits one for a year and yea the push for sales SUCKED but I did love the community and my coworkers
ALSO as a runner it irks me so much that they NEVER talk about running form & often peoples form is so bad!! 1/3 of the workout is running so it’s crazy that they have never mentioned running form and I have been to over 15 orange theory classes!
i would love to see this type of video for Club Pilates!!
Literally was thinking this the whole video! 😂
Another great video and amazing advice Keltie! *allegedly* 😉
This auto sales-themed gym experience is my exact experience at LA Fitness - don’t know if they have this in Canada - but they basically want to sell a more expensive membership based on features that are supposed to make it special but then all those features actually cost more and don’t come with the gym package - like personal training… They have an entire sales staff on the same floor as the weights, right up front, so they can accost you as you’re trying to leave. Any gym you walk into that has an entire sales staff with at least 10 individual desks needs to give you pause. Even if it’s a good gym!
Happy OTF member here 🧡Amazing insights on how Orange Theory works and I am sorry that your experience working there in earlier years wasn’t great.
I think labelling the entire business as a “scam” is a bit harsh and may come from a bias of working in a not so great location/franchise. Scams are “businesses” that take a person’s money without delivering a specific product or service that was agreed upon..
At the end of the day, consumers have free will and a choice on where they want to spend their money and time.
The tactics and level of passion in the staff definitely varies from studio to studio and ownership. I’ve been a member for over a year and those unfortunate sharky tactics were never in my experience.. and I’m very grateful for that and its maybe why this has been my longest gym membership 😅
Keltie, glad to watch this now! I have been thinking of trying the 1 free class, but if they constantly call, I rather not even bother!!
Love this video!! I used to work at an orange theory and I think it definitely depends on your studio. I would never pay this much to actually take classes, but the community was decent. I tried to not be pushy when selling to members, but I felt super icky when cold calling and when people wanted to cancel/freeze their membership - we were told to make them feel bad for leaving even if it was for financial reasons. 😭😭 but again my studio was not the most ethical…. Hahaha
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Me also...sheesh. 😊
So glad for a new upload Keltie! Been getting back into my fitness and there are so many big promises from gyms with a hugee price tag in London
Congrats for getting back into it!! 👏🏻
I've been a member for years. I used to have multiple gym memberships, but soon went back to premier OTF membership. I love the two studios I go to. I've never experienced any high pressure sales tactics. The managers have been super accommodating when I've had to cancel last minute. They knew I had a son with special needs, who also had a membership that cancelled often for medical reasons. We were never charged. I have loved my coaches. The biggest knock I have on OTF is the high turnover and frankly high they treat their coaches (hence the high turnover). Just when you find a coach you love, their gone!!
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR RHIS FOR SO LONG!
I have seen this workout place advertised & know a former co-worker who has worked out there. Good to expose scams...thanks, Keltie! It is challenging enough to find a place/gym where we can feel comfortable & welcome to work on our health & fitness. Like we need to be scammed...🙄🤬
You’re so welcome heather!
I really feel for the workers who got the job thinking they were just going to work a front desk job, just to be forced into a cold calling position. I had the same thing happen to me at a t-shirt printing place I worked at in my early 20s. At first it was fine but a couple months in I was one of the workers forced to transfer to a new location that the owner was opening up on the opposite side of town. I ended up driving twice as far to a completely new store and was forced to cold call random businesses every day in order to drum up business. It was horrible, nothing is worse than spending all day calling people that DO NOT want to talk to you so you can beg them to try your services, especially when its not even technically part of the job you signed up for.
This is so true!!! I ran d1 cross country and track in college so like ONLY running gets my heart rate up but I currently am LOVING Pilates, tennis, and walking at this point in my life and feel better doing that than running right now
I go to OTF everyday but like you mentioned in the video, each studio is different. Ours is packed so no weird sales tactics because we already have so many members. But also I have a fitness background, so I like it because I just do what I need on a given day. But that is why I like it. It is an hour of workout where I don’t have to make choices about what to do next, but I can always modify and go at whatever range I need for that day.
Great video. Never did orange theory’s , but tried barrys, also worked at F45 and high studios (same as barrys in Amsterdam) and one thing I will sum up: if these classes were that effective we, personal trainers, would not have our job and wouldn’t be as fully booked all the times as we are 😅 dying in the class is not equal to have a good workout. 🎉
Hahahha 😂😂 it’s true nothing beats a PT!
Good morning on this Saturday Keeltieee!
Good morning Nikki!!!!
what is wrong with youtube? I remember subscribing to Keltie a long time ago, and then without me realizing, I haven't seen her videos pop up in my feed in so long! I'm happy they started popping back up again!
Same happened to me! 😢
Same
I pay for a Pilates membership and was nervous because it’s so expensive. But after my intro class, it made so much more sense to me. It can be dangerous and while I could buy a reformer and exercise at home, it still wouldn’t be a good “investment” unless you’re a pro. It’s also fun trying new things you know you’d never do by yourself.
Some memberships are worth it. But paying $$$$ to do things you could do for free is so angering.
Thank you so much for talking about this! I have 2 terrible OTF stories. First one is mine.
I'm a fitness instructor. Back in 2022, i was training to become an OTF coach. I made it very clear that I booked a 5 day vacation and gave them the dates. They said no problem! Upon my return i reached out ASAP and never heard back, they ghosted me!!!! Not to mention that i had to bug them for six months to pay me for the training!!! I had theater them with lawyers. Total scam!
Story 2, a good friend of mine who has over 20 years of experience fitness training was also trading with OTF. She had a bad knee at the time. They discontinued her training half way through because of it. You can still totally coach with the injury that she had. Moreover the orange lights made me sick, the music was too loud and its not a gym!!!!!! Its a fitness boutique and the workouts are flippin boring.
Ok I'm done now, have a wonderful day lol
I loved OTF when I used to go some years back because I enjoyed the versatility of exercises throughout the class as well as the community however I was totally aware of the sales tactics and didn't respect that aspect of it, but understanding how businesses work, I tried not to think about it. After some time though, it was difficult to ignore since this "leading science" was the reason for such outrageous prices and it was so falsely presented, I couldn't justify it anymore and it truly became less fun. Especially considering that I can do all of these extremely basic workouts at any other regular gym and any time for wayyyy cheaper. After quitting, it was honestly relieving and I realized how much money I felt like was wasted over the course of 8-10 months. People can get these communities and type classes anywhere. Business is business but it's important to remember and see the humanity in the clients that keep said business afloat. I feel like places like OTF, Goodlife, Planet Fitness, etc etc forget that. There's a local gym in Toronto called Shape Fitness and it's so lowkey and the community is amazing and all the classes are included. Locally owned is always where it's at tbh.
Would you review Burn Bootcamp?? I wanted to love it but have some qualms about it
I’ve been going to OTF for a few months now and love it. It’s not my first rodeo with working out and i was getting pretty bored prior to joining. so for me it works! I pay $129 for 8 classes a month and love my studio. We have great coaches who do a good job at warming up. I love the community there and everyone is friendly. I feel like the coaches actually know me and when i can push myself and when i need to slow down. And I’ve noticed they encourage the green zone. they do talk about “after burn sometimes.” As a nurse i always tune out during that spiel 😂 So yeah i guess it’s location based! I actually drive 15 min further than the studio closest to me because i started there and love that one.
I will say though that if you have no experience with working out this class is probably not the safest. the risk of injury is much higher than if you were working out alone with a personal trainer or even at a gym.
I agree with you! I love my 2x a week class and my studio.
Cool entertaining video 😎We don't have orangetheory fitness in Europe but still the sales tactics are the same here ;)
I do OTF and am absolutely obsessed with it; I guess it just isn't for everybody.
I haven’t watched the video yet. Posting a comment before. I was a founding member of OTF studio. And went there for 1.5 years. I LOVED it!!! I was one of few who actually saw the results and it was because of changing my dieting habits and putting in the work. But I loved it. I miss OTF so much. I quit because I am solo parenting 2 under 2 8am-8pm 6 days a week. And for now (3 months pp) I’m focusing all the time and energy on my family. But can’t wait to go back to OTF. I looked and felt amazing just after 8 months of OTF.
This made me feel good about my gym!!
Very interesting, thanks for the detective work🕵🏼♀️😂
Hi Keltie!
Can you please make a video and really explain those zones for someone who has nooo clue.
A few years ago I "tryed to try" an indoor walking class at my gym. I regulary go to other classes and thought I could try something new.
The very young instructor had taken over a class with mostly regulars and they knew it all so she didn´t feel like explaining to me even tho I told her I had never done anything similar before. She just pointed out the bands that is attached around the body (same type as the wristbands) and a nice guy in the class helped me to put it on and start it.
I have never felt soooo lost as a beginner in a class, I didn´t understand the graphics that was shown on a big screen, non of the "special words" she used and I have no idea if I was any good at it. I just gave up and tried to follow the people in the row in front of me..
Great material! Keltie, in Poland they advertise that you can burn up to 1200 cal per hour. That's insane! :D
Excellent review video - thank you so much for this!!!
I am no stranger to paying expensive gym membership for classes, but I like to stick to things like parkour, lyra, pole, dance. Of which, it is standard to have the classes cost that much but I find it worth it. I like working out with other people but idk if I would ever pay that much for just weights and treadmills or even Pilates. Also, most of the places I have been are smaller gyms and the owners and trainers are all so passionate because it is an alternative way of working out.
Love this video, so informative. Thank you for great content❤
would love to see a video on how apple watch/ oura ring/ wearables calculate calories burned and the possible deception with it
I am so glad I went for a regular gym instead of this. the per for one class was about the same as my monthly membership fee is now. I had no idea they also had commission based sales in there too.
Girl I just signed up 😫 and everything you said is true
I've been a member at OTF for 9 years. I've almost done 1500 classes. I absolutely love it. I warm up before class and stretch on my own after class. It's a wonderful workout. I've never been in better shape. I have visited many locations (at least 7), so I can still workout while I'm on vacations. No one has ever pressured me. I signed up for 8 classes per month at first, but I was paying extra to do more classes, so one of the SAs suggested unlimited. I have a good mix of muscle mass and cardiovascular fitness. I highly highly recommend it. 👌
1500 classes?! Wow 😮 way to go!
Omg!!! I’m early early and I hear I was thinking I should go back but here we are.. 😂😂
LOVE MY FIRST HOUR EARLY VIEWERS 🩵🩵
One time I signed up to try out a class, and I think i got sick or something and ended up not going. I was going to reschedule but then they started calling and texting me every single week (sometimes multiple times AND from different numbers) and i got the ICK. They did that for MONTHS and eventually I texted back one of the many different numbers they contacted me from and told them if they continued to contact me I would report them for harassment. that finally got them to stop and I never heard back. but omg your video makes it all make sense now
I worked at a YMCA in a rural area… this is SO accurate. I was a college kid working my way up; they exploited alllll young people and squeezed us for everything we had. You got rewarded for good work with MORE work. The cold calls were real. They made me a “coach” to help people on fitness journeys when I had 0 experience. I led a weight loss group with my teaching being personal experience losing weight thru EDs.
I have been waiting for your new video since this morning ( I live in Turkey it’s 6.30 p.m. here 😅) yayyy❤️
The waiting is overrrrrrr!! Enjoy 🩵
I went to orange theory for a while in 2022/2023, and my otf did a 5 min warm up and a 5-10 min cool down depending on the workout you did.
Until recntly I worked on the telesales team at a very up-market UK photography company, and working there was almost exactly the same as how you described working at OTF, down to the hard sales and being subtly lied to on the job description (telesales, which was what the job was, wasn't mentioned anywhere when I signed up!). Minus the fitness classes of course lol. So glad to hear you didn't blame the employees themselves for what upper management is telling them to do!
Please do a video on Barry’s. It’s hand down my favorite workout!! Love it
My employer had a Health Day event and we were able to attend shortened versions of classes from local fitness studios. I tried an OTF class and liked it ok but was totally turned off by the high pressure tactics of the women who taught the class. We signed a release to attend the Health Day event so were not required to give the OTF people our contact info, so the only chance they had to convince us to sign up was at the event. After seeing your video, I'm glad I didn't pursue it and I'm really glad I didn't have to give them my phone number!
I worked in marketing design for a regional fitness company, and my boss sent me to one of the sales training events just to understand the sales side. Eventually, I had to design and maintain custom pricing sheets for each location (about 20), and they changed CONSTANTLY. I’d spend so much time in design files just trying to make sure all the prices were correct for each fitness club, and while that was almost six years ago, those pricing sheets with the two different prices (monthly vs annual, and what if you have a spouse?!) still haunt me to this day.
ALSO THEY REQUIRE FULL 30 days notice to cancel. Both times I canceled I had to pay for a complete extra month. That is why I never went back. I am sure I am not alone.
Thank you for posting this because I was considering looking into applying there lol
I have worked at a number of privately owned/non-francise gyms and yoga studios and the sales tactics are always similar... as well as the "don't try to hard to remind people to cancle the memberships they don't use" approach to profit.
The worst part is how expensive they are. I would have loved to join them.
I work at Barry's in the US and would love for you to go undercover at one!
ok so... since you have previously worked here, and are testing it out now. i am curious as i am new to your channel, did you need to show your fitness degrees or any kinesiology degree? also i was considering using orange theory for workouts, but now slowly watching this i think i might try a different gym. what gym would you reccomend?
Oh no I’m not ready 😅 I’m already thinking of cancelling my membership so really need this but part of me cannot quit the OTF cult
One of my least fav workout locations. Sadly the one I went to in CLT wasn’t as welcoming, and it was really my first class 😅I worked at Spenga for 3 years and the sales stuff I totally understand. I love Spenga cause you actually get a warm up in the first part on the bike (5-7min) and then they finish the session with 20 min of yoga. With 20 min of strength/Hitt/TRX etc in between those 2. It’s an awesome workout! But as you were saying about the low pay. The idea of being in my 30’s with a college degree and getting $12 an hr was a joke, pay them more, cause you truly do ALOT!! Also tunes are also usually on point! We have one instructor who has been doing festival Fridays!!
I live in Vancouver too!! I was like heeey I know that street! and i've been to that OT hahah. did a week trial and never went back
was a member for years due to the proximity to my home. the lack of warm up was deff a bummer
Another great video! Maybe its just me but even woekout classes at a normal gym is expensive. I cannot remember what i looked into but it was $150 CAD for 4 sessions (if i remember correctly).
So true!! I feel everything is expensive these days 😅
Great video - I got about 8 ads in this video tho...is that CZcams just doing you dirty? Just seemed like a lottt
Okay that is weird, thank you for letting me know! I always just let CZcams automate it but that usually means like 1-2 max not 8!
I've been part of Orange Theory since like February and take all the calorie stuff with a grain of salt. The price has been worth it to me because it gets my butt in there at least twice a week for a workout with great people. I think a big thing is the workout is JUST 1 hour, is pretty well rounded, and can be what you make of it. You don't have to go 100% every day, or you can power walk instead of run, you can lift heavy or light, and ask for modifications if needed.
At the end of the day, it is a business and they need to make money, so they can do whatever they want...it's easy to block their number. The community/SAs/coaches will vary from studio to studio and I don't think it's very fair to blanket your experience to every studio and their environment so I appreciate you added that to the end of the video. I'm sorry you had a bad experience working there and I think it's important to acknowledge that anywhere you work can be toxic and bad, not necessarily specific to OTF. I have friends who are SAs and their managers are not like your was at all and they have loved the experience. Thanks for your video and sharing your experience Keltie!
So true it’s going to be different studio to studio! Love that you’re is working out so well for you and all the staff at yours are great so well!
Omg!!!! You just unlocked a memory of when I got called by the very Orange Theory that you visited about a month ago and I was truly so confused on the phone I was like no I've never been there I've never given you my phone number. Someone probably gave them a fake one 😂
New watcher here! Just curious since you were an employee before...What is a "good" pricepoint for the unlimited option. Is the price negotiagble once you sign up, etc
Thank you for posting this, companies like OT & Barry's bug me lol! Barry's is the same with their 1,000 calorie workouts, it's legal misrepresentation & their floor part is totally pointless as there's no progressive overload or hypertrophy so there will be no muscle mass increase! It's totally ridiculous!
Are the sales tactics that different than other gym class memberships? Genuine question - I assume all gyms like this do this.
Full disclosure - I've been going to OT for 2 years but I'm not a super fan but I do really like it - I just can't motivate myself to workout unless I'm in a class haha. I pay a little over $100 for 8 classes month. At least where I live that is a lot cheaper than most other classes like pilates etc.
I've never heard them mention EPOC since I've been going.
I lLOVE your videos and I'm not trying to come down on this :) Just trying to provide the perspective of someone who goes a couple times a week.
Sadly in Vancouver it's not that cheap :(
I am a die hard OTFer! It’s a fantastic workout that continues to push me 7 years in. You get to set your pace, your goals, and keep yourself accountable. Coaches are not one size fits all but that’s the fun - you find your rhythm and it becomes your life! It’s not for everyone and that’s fine-i hope everyone finds something they never get sick of, something that makes them happy and healthy! OTF is that for me 🍊🧡