How To Sharpen A Slicer Knife

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  • How to sharpen a sujihiki or Japanese slicer knife
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  • @djtripp7077
    @djtripp7077 Před rokem +1

    I continually come back to this video to help me survive my sushi cook job, thank you for your precise instruction!!

  • @Viradonis
    @Viradonis Před 4 lety +3

    Man, I love the sound quality of your sharpening tutorials. Sharp knifes made me completely changed my cooking experience all thanks to You.

  • @jamesmurphy7828
    @jamesmurphy7828 Před 4 lety +1

    This is exactly what I've been looking for. I have a double sided whetstone coming in about a months time. A 240 and 1,000 grit, respectively and I've been looking for a good explanitory tutorial type video for months now. THank you :) Helped me greatly with impeceble timing.

  • @edgarayalacruz1510
    @edgarayalacruz1510 Před 4 lety

    Insane how sharp those knifes are. Always awesome to watch your videos.

  • @spookymulder4960
    @spookymulder4960 Před 4 lety +3

    This knife is a work of art 😍 you really got me hooked with artisan knives and taking care of them much to the benefit of my friends and family 😊 cant‘t wait to see your first video out of your new place, keep doing what you do 💪🏻

  • @locus1222
    @locus1222 Před 2 lety

    Woah. You're so consistent with your content, i watched another video and all the tips and techniques are so similar but just adhere to the type of knife you're using. This is honestly so helpful, thank you

  • @jH-fc8id
    @jH-fc8id Před 4 lety +2

    This is a brilliant technique -- one I've wondered about for years. That is, doing a series simple one-strokes on the upper-grit polishing stones, having established your basic edge and shape with push-pull strokes on a 800 to 1000 grit stone. And slowly eliminating the burr through a series of diminishing single strokes on the 800 to 1000 stone rather than wood. So logical and straightforward. Thank you.

  • @jimburns1927
    @jimburns1927 Před 4 lety

    That Knife is Now A Absolute Razor! Wish I could Sharpen my slicers like that. Awesome job as usual Ryky🙏

  • @louisestrada9991
    @louisestrada9991 Před 4 lety +8

    This is my 1st time leaving you a comment though I have been following you for the past two years. Within that time span, I've seen you teach the "art of knife sharpening" using human intuition which we all have but don't acknowledge it, which guides us to develop the "FEEL" based from our human senses! Great instructional awareness. Thank you for your passion/love for knives for us to gain the necessary knowledge to learn the world of knife maintenance and to purchase the cutlery items what we can afford based on your recommendation for us to have so that we too can master and appreciate just as much as you do, the world of The Knife! Thank you.

  • @leonardwells9613
    @leonardwells9613 Před 4 lety +1

    You touched the filament to demonstrate the pressure reading before you tested the edge, this gave you the higher reading on the first try as the filament was not tight after you pressed it. Excellent tutorial ! L👍

  • @HybriDLeo
    @HybriDLeo Před 4 lety

    After i found you, ive started out sharpening with wetstones. And now, today, i felt i wanted to make my own leather strop. I found an old leather jacket i had in my closet, cut it up in stripes, superglued it to some Wood i had home. Didnt have any paste for sharpening, so applied silverpolish. I tell you, The knifes are sharp! I thank you for all your vids!!! Thank you so much!!!

  • @anthonypierrejr.7153
    @anthonypierrejr.7153 Před 4 lety +1

    It’s always good when I wake up and see a notification for a new Burrfection video

  • @glennjones5456
    @glennjones5456 Před 3 lety

    Another great session. Thanks Ryky for sharing....and caring as you do. Still jealous I do not have one of those most beautiful tools. One day...

  • @michaelbereny6783
    @michaelbereny6783 Před 4 lety +1

    love your channel. I have been sharpening my own blades for about 5 months ad i ca tell it is getting easier and better . I feel this is due to your tutorials ad the vids that you look at comments and teach from there. Thank you so much for all this insight.
    Would love one of your blades however could to find the site for the auction below. but would happily bid on a petty knife.

  • @cadeirafilosofica
    @cadeirafilosofica Před 3 lety +1

    I saw many videos about sharpening, this one is the best BEST for me!!! Thanks!!!

  • @qilung8764
    @qilung8764 Před 4 lety +1

    another excellent vid on sharpening a knife and I did enjoy.

  • @campsitesweden
    @campsitesweden Před 3 lety

    Love your absolute addiction to the sound of cutting paper :)

  • @cinema8564
    @cinema8564 Před 4 lety

    Loved to hear your tip regarding passes after the foundation course grit is used: that is, the finer grits get one stroke left side+one stroke right side, not multi strokes left alternating with multi strokes right.

  • @jasondampier4361
    @jasondampier4361 Před 4 lety

    Thank you once again for sharing your knowledge with us. Stay safe.

  • @trevor9606
    @trevor9606 Před 3 lety

    Thanks for this posting. Been struggling to get a consistent, uniform edge on my carving knife!!

  • @georgeneckrock7575
    @georgeneckrock7575 Před 4 lety

    Always a pleasure Ryky !!! 🙏

  • @SUPERIONWINS
    @SUPERIONWINS Před 4 lety +3

    Can you please do an ASMR sharpening video, just the sound of sharpening, nothing else. I find the sound of sharpening so soothing and makes me fall half asleep lol

  • @christophermark
    @christophermark Před 3 lety

    Excellent video, add this to your 101 playlist!

  • @richardschreuder
    @richardschreuder Před 4 lety

    Thx for the video Ryky! 🤜🏼🤛🏼

  • @bobtronic73
    @bobtronic73 Před 2 lety

    That was super helpful. Just sharpened the first time on a whetstone. Really happy with the result. Thank you!

    • @Burrfection
      @Burrfection  Před 2 lety +1

      nicely done. all on you - i did nothing but helped guide.

  • @tonyroolze
    @tonyroolze Před 4 lety +1

    I’m always learning 🙏

  • @kongandbasses8732
    @kongandbasses8732 Před 4 lety +3

    Watching your videos helped me to built up some confidence in sharpening on my wetstones.
    But I am still not confident enough to sharpen my more expensive kitchen knifes, but my outdoor and bushcraft stuff.
    Just sharpened a Fällkniven A1, made of VG 10, a laminated steel with a verry hard core. Quite a thick back, 6mm, with a convex grind.
    I am quite proud that I was able to get a super sharp edge on this chunk of steel, using a 800 grit waterstone, refining it with a 2000 grit waterstone and stroping it on a leather strop with green compound.
    But I'm still feeling uncomfortable when I am thinking of threatening my japanese and german chef- and cooking knifes with this old stones. Thinking of threatening those quite delikate, thin blades on my old and worn out - but fresh leveled - waterstones makes me think of "the brick". It gives me nightmares.
    Times are bad, as a musician I am a victim of Covid19 lockdown. All gigs this year are chanceled, so there is no chance of collecting the money for a set of new, better, apropriate stones. There are things that are more important.
    I'd better keep on stroping them.
    Stay safe, and keep it cool while moving all your stuff.
    Including the brick.

  • @raffieb762
    @raffieb762 Před 3 lety +1

    I just bought a new knife I didn't need just to sharpen it, I'm addicted now, thanks ryky😁

    • @danltm
      @danltm Před 3 lety

      It is just therapeutic..

  • @annawong1305
    @annawong1305 Před 2 lety

    Been obsessed with your videos lately. I really want to get one amazing all purpose knife, a decent whetstone and to attain decent sharpening skills... so that I can cut paper like that!!! Don't know how I've managed with blunt knives all this time.

  • @setloh4345
    @setloh4345 Před 4 lety

    Thank you for the new video.

  • @gaylordhanson2719
    @gaylordhanson2719 Před 3 lety

    Ryky, this is a great presentation!!!

  • @markrisch2231
    @markrisch2231 Před 4 lety

    Just picked up the RyKy combo stone set and the Kitayama 8k.... can't wait to clean up my kitchen knives

  • @darrenmcwilliam4612
    @darrenmcwilliam4612 Před 4 lety

    Awesome tutorial as always👌🔪

  • @GR33NWOOD97
    @GR33NWOOD97 Před 3 lety

    Great watch! My masakage gyuto needs a sharpen but hella scared! Only new ish to sharpening, Will practice on my old set

  • @yatagarasu1495
    @yatagarasu1495 Před 4 lety

    Hey Ryky, i love seeing you still enjoying making your content like the day i found your channel on less then 5000 subs as far as i remember. I really loved watching your channel (and hair :p) grow.
    Stay save and awesome.
    (You MAY remember my name as CsGo Clips, although its a long time ago :))
    All the best

    • @Burrfection
      @Burrfection  Před 4 lety +1

      Thank you for being there from the beginning!

  • @danechung309
    @danechung309 Před 4 lety +6

    I blame you for making me start a knife collection.

  • @chefknivesenthusiast
    @chefknivesenthusiast Před 3 lety

    I spent all my tips of my last 8 Private Chef gigs on a Ryusen Fukakuryu Sujihiki 270 mm a few days ago. Thank you for this video! Now I know a little bit better how to take good care of it.

  • @snake1kl
    @snake1kl Před 3 lety

    Hi Ryky, im Klaudio from Croatia. I started watching your channel for a few months and i loved the passion you have for Japanese knives. I work as a artisan too and i appreciate the hard work and quality that Japanese knifes have, so after whatching your videos i decided to buy two yaxell knifes (a Yaxell YO-U 69 Layer Steel Small Santoku Kitchen Knife and a yaxell gou 20cm chef knife) and a cheper Mercer Culinary 10" chef knife. I saw that your sharpening stone of choice is Chosera 3,000 Grit Stone, so i was wondering if that one stone is enough for me to keep my knifes sharp? Im not very rich and buying multiple stones and good knifes is not easy.

  • @tasmedic
    @tasmedic Před 3 lety

    I like your sharpening style, Ryky. The less you do to an edge, the lower the chances of making a mistake, also time is saved, plus less steel is lost from the blade with each sharpening.
    Do your auctions include overseas patreon subscribers? I live in Australia and would like to join in..!

  • @YosepSugiarto
    @YosepSugiarto Před 4 lety

    Ricky is the living Samurai Knife! :D

  • @cinema8564
    @cinema8564 Před 4 lety

    Would love to see videos for guys who want extreme edges for the sake of the art, as a mastery of craftsmanship. Beyond what is normal or necessary. Yeah, true, the other guys in the kitchen may think you're nuts to go for perfection. But it's an art and craftsmanship that is very rewarding. Like someone playing a violin well. And, as a practical matter, it is so nice to draw through and make your cut in veggies, fish or meat easily and in only one pull (using --as much as possible--just the weight of the knife itself!). And every now and then, you hear a comment like, "Geez, Mike, that looks so easy!" Cheers.

    • @marcush8268
      @marcush8268 Před 3 lety

      go join Kitchen Knife Forums, and stop watching burrfection. there are other sharpening techniques which are not mentioned here, e.g. edge leading deburring. also scienceofsharp the webpage.

  • @HybriDLeo
    @HybriDLeo Před 4 lety

    😆 I love your reaction on when u test out a sharp knife. 😂

  • @johnnybgood8779
    @johnnybgood8779 Před 2 lety

    Papergasm.Lol. Seinsei….this is magical.A very sharp video.

  • @donnyh3497
    @donnyh3497 Před 3 lety +1

    Love your videos! With my callused construction hands I can't ever feel the burr🥺

    • @Burrfection
      @Burrfection  Před 3 lety

      Oh no!.... try the back of your fibers... or the palm

  •  Před 4 lety +6

    First couple of seconds; ASMR for 🔪 lovers!

  • @Aokitadamitsu
    @Aokitadamitsu Před 3 lety

    LOL that does't get old, awesome Ryky

  • @nuuwnhuus
    @nuuwnhuus Před 2 lety

    I started the video without sound, and I could hear the cutting. I think I've been watching to many of these videos.

  • @soumynonareverse7807
    @soumynonareverse7807 Před 4 lety

    Nice tutorial indeed. I'm thinking of buying the chefschoice trizor xv. What sharpener do you recommend as an addition to this to really get a razor edge? (Preferably electric but I understand if that's not the best option)

  • @johnbhisitkul8281
    @johnbhisitkul8281 Před 4 lety

    Hi, I use your method for sharpening. When I get to the full strokes (10 then 8, etc.) I also find it more natural to go heel to tip toward me and tip to heel away. HOWEVER, on the away stroke I feel I have to start at a steeper angle to get the very tip. That makes it hard for me to adjust to a proper angle when I get to the main part of the knife. Am I doing it wrong or can you explain in detail how you get the tip and still maintain a good angle on the away stroke.

  • @quake4maniac474
    @quake4maniac474 Před 4 lety +1

    Hi. I have a question @ Burrfection regarding the Miyabi 4000 FC Gyutoh: do you think this is a good Japanese „Beginners“ knife? Any Pros/Cons/Concerns regarding this Miyabi series?
    I am also thinking about getting the Zwilling V Edge to keep this knife sharp. Any experience with this knife sharpener?

  • @proxieee
    @proxieee Před 4 lety +10

    Just a headsup that the title says "Tuotial" instead of "Tutorial".

  • @tagontag
    @tagontag Před 3 lety

    Goodness, your obsession without sharpness is a contagious pure joy hahaha.

  • @1701spacecadet
    @1701spacecadet Před 4 lety +21

    Next video: how to re-attatch severed fingers!

  • @williamj3459
    @williamj3459 Před 3 lety

    Ryky, what micron rating was that compound you tried out on your strop? I've been watching since your early days and have been going from a Chosera 800 to a Rika 5000, finishing with a 2.5 micron compound on your rolled buffalo strop. I just picked up a slicer and want to upgrade my kit. I was thinking of replacing the Rika 5000 with a Chosera 3000 and adding a Kitayama 8000. What compound would you recommend after the Kitayama 8000?

  • @jorgesaade980
    @jorgesaade980 Před 4 lety +1

    I could watch a time lapse of you putting away knives for hours 😂

  • @xchalibur77
    @xchalibur77 Před 4 lety

    I definitely want to partecipate on that sweet auction 😛😛😛

  • @karlbuttler
    @karlbuttler Před 3 lety

    I'm wondering how, does the edge you created work for shaving? Would that plow thru a week of growth, and be smooth?

  • @lucasnorwood7861
    @lucasnorwood7861 Před 2 lety

    I have seen some sharpeners say that you need the mud sediment that collects on the stone and then others, like Kramer, say you need to take it off. What is your opinion on this and why? thanks a lot!

  • @TheMenap
    @TheMenap Před 3 lety

    I always sharpen my plane baldes with a 300/1000 grit diamond stone and a 16000 shapton for the micro bevel. Do you recommend to get another stone when im starting with knife sharpening?

  • @basintx
    @basintx Před 4 lety +2

    Ryky, I'm a little confused after watching you sharpening video today. In today's video, for your countdown and single strokes you use an edge trailing stroke. However, in your video from 5/23 (Near Perfect Knife Sharpening Session) you used an edge leading stroke. Can you explain the difference and tell why you would use one method over the other?

  • @neekniggit3606
    @neekniggit3606 Před 3 lety

    Have you ever considered contacting Alec Steele and making a custom knife. Your knowledge and sharpening skill and his forging skills would make for an awesome collaboration. That would be exciting to see what you two would come up with.

  • @steveogle8942
    @steveogle8942 Před 2 lety

    Just bought a Sujihiki from you, but I haven't had a chance to use it yet. Have a 5 pound pork loin in the fridge which I need to cut into 3rds, so that will be the first test.

  • @acechef3811
    @acechef3811 Před 4 lety +1

    After watching you for so long, my knives are so scary sharp that I can literally shave with them.

    • @andrzejsobanski6752
      @andrzejsobanski6752 Před 4 lety +2

      That's good. Every knife should be sharp enough to shave.
      Sharp knives matter!

  • @elmerthibodeau7372
    @elmerthibodeau7372 Před 4 lety +9

    Im still having trouble keeping a constant angle when sharpening and i think its because i switch from kitchen knives to pocket knives and the angles are very different so i cant get used to one. I did however get my first push cut yesterday.

    • @davesmith5656
      @davesmith5656 Před 4 lety +1

      I got a set of plastic angle guides, and checked frequently. Now - and this sounds odd, maybe - with confidence (and practice), I can get the angle, and time and again, if I check it, it's right on the angle guide. As beings, we are able to develop really pretty extraordinary abilities, with practice, then it is just a matter of confidence, like, "I know I have the angle." Much more fun that way!

  • @miguelpelaez1016
    @miguelpelaez1016 Před 3 lety

    Hello just want to ask where do you buy knives and what can you recommend thanks

  • @joebaum2875
    @joebaum2875 Před 3 lety

    You use the push/pull method to avoid deforming the profile during sharpening. But when you remove the burr, you transition to what appears like a stripping/crescent method. Won't this change the profile over time as well? Or is the pass so light that you are only removing the burr without removing any more material?

  • @SolomonKane71
    @SolomonKane71 Před 4 lety

    It is hard to tell from videos and Amazon, is the stone holder hard rubber/plastic or metal?

  • @NClottery
    @NClottery Před 4 lety

    I have a question? I kinda newbie the push and pull method do we put a lil bit of pressure when we are pusing it forward or When we are pulling it?

  • @MrLord1495
    @MrLord1495 Před 3 lety

    Hi man! I recently buy a Mercer Millennia and Mercer Chinese Cleaver. Could do you reccomendme a good sharppening stone?

  • @brandenyu4977
    @brandenyu4977 Před rokem

    When sharpening the tip of knife, do you make the angle higher?

  • @outdoorfreedom9778
    @outdoorfreedom9778 Před 4 lety

    Yesterday I bought a really nice stone at Harbor freight for only a couple dollars. It's a 250 grit!! OK, it's for my lawn tools and items like my ax or machete but it did get an edge on one of those little knives that look like a house key.
    My wife has been going deaf for some time and refuges to wear the hearing enhancement she just had to have. It works but only if you wear it. She is watching NASCAR in the other room, I was unable to hear anything!!!

  • @Joshua-cf6io
    @Joshua-cf6io Před 4 lety

    Would your recommend a Lansky sharpening system?

  • @stevestoverstudios2223

    Recommendation for an 8000 splash & go. Thanks. Just letting you know you have someone here that has learned to get my Shuns razor sharp by watching your channel. I use the Naniwa 800 & 3000 stones.

    • @Burrfection
      @Burrfection  Před 4 lety

      what i use bur.re/ky8000, the shapton 8K is also pretty nice, but really thin

  • @chefstragz3889
    @chefstragz3889 Před 4 lety

    Awsome vid thank you.. can you do something on sharping a knife with one edge ?

  • @hansrenkes8385
    @hansrenkes8385 Před rokem

    Hi. This is a beautiful knife. Any chance you can write down what knife this is? I would like to buy one. Thanks

  • @maciejdabrowski303
    @maciejdabrowski303 Před 4 lety

    that "meeh" face at 228 ^^
    good job!

  • @NClottery
    @NClottery Před 4 lety

    also how much pressure are we using on a scale of 1-10?

  • @darthvaper6745
    @darthvaper6745 Před 4 lety

    Thoughts on ceramic rods?

  • @arccibernardo4040
    @arccibernardo4040 Před rokem

    Is this the same process for yanagiba knives?

  • @ept54
    @ept54 Před 4 lety

    I noticed with your single strokes the right side jets a slight J shape stroke, while the left side doesn't. Is that just something that works better with a slicing knife.

  • @petermccabe3696
    @petermccabe3696 Před 4 lety

    Very cool indeed

  • @arom8438
    @arom8438 Před 3 lety

    Have you made a pocket knife sharpening tutorial?

  • @NClottery
    @NClottery Před 4 lety

    Do you have a video for Left handed chef where to teach how to sharpie a knife for newbie?

  • @Fuwlz
    @Fuwlz Před 3 lety

    I've got a question about sharpening my knives cuz I think I messed up. Is there any way I can get in contact with you?

  • @howwanpeng8753
    @howwanpeng8753 Před 3 lety

    Hi Ryky, how would you rate the Naniwa Snow White 8000 and the Kitayama 8000?

  • @classifiedagent8807
    @classifiedagent8807 Před 4 lety

    Do you still have giveaway santoku knife/whetstone?
    I really like a japanese coarse/fine whetstone and a knife. I cant afford those😅😅

  • @markbrooks4252
    @markbrooks4252 Před 4 lety +1

    I would like to Learn Both Hand's, can You teach Use how to do that???

  • @raffieb762
    @raffieb762 Před 3 lety

    Ryky!! Its me raffie from the future! Don't move into your new studio!! TRUST ME!!!

  • @louis2p
    @louis2p Před 4 lety

    Hey Ryky,
    I found the noise of your stop radically different than mine. Yours almost sounds like a proper whetstone, is that because of the compound ?
    Cheers, great video as always.
    Louis

    • @Burrfection
      @Burrfection  Před 4 lety +1

      It was wet, and the knife is ultra thin at cutting edge. And the microphone may have enhanced the noise. And i am using the rolled buffalo

  • @heeroyuy9496
    @heeroyuy9496 Před 4 lety

    Can you please do sakimaru sharpening tutorial vid ??

  • @gaylordhanson2719
    @gaylordhanson2719 Před 3 lety +2

    I usually take three or four tests using my sharpness using the BT50C: heel, mid, belly and tip. Although this test is very accurate for static tests, I don't take this test as an end-all for sharpness. I think this is a good test for edge width and overall geometry just beyond the edge toward the spine. The thing it doesn't test is what I call dynamic cutting. That's where the edge slices through the material. which is more realistic but is not practical to measure objectively. Experiencing the edge in practice is the bottom line for me.

  • @TheMiniD3
    @TheMiniD3 Před 4 lety +1

    Hi Ryky
    Thank you for the video, certainly answered a whole lot of questions
    Only one question today :)
    If my final polishing stone is a Naniwa Pro Chosera 10000.........is a strop still going to make a difference?
    Regards,
    Gary............AU

    • @Burrfection
      @Burrfection  Před 4 lety +2

      You do not need to, but the strop’s main job is pulling off material that may be left behind

    • @TheMiniD3
      @TheMiniD3 Před 4 lety

      @@Burrfection Thank you Ryky, I need a bigger house! :)

  • @leighp03
    @leighp03 Před 4 lety +3

    My girls thought I was watching something else with the noises at the start 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
    That back wall looks so lonely now

  • @craigsayer8710
    @craigsayer8710 Před 4 lety

    How do you get bid on your knives please

  • @onlyychevys
    @onlyychevys Před 4 lety

    Do you think that maybe after cutting all of that paper that it could have dulled the blade just a little? You should try it without cutting paper first ya never know. Might have been closer to the 170

  • @josefkolena1023
    @josefkolena1023 Před 4 lety

    Hello. Iam a bartender. Can you recomend some knife for ice carving please?

  • @RodrigoBicalhoOtavioJardim

    That's exactly the kind of knife I am needing. Do you have any recommendations? On a budget?

  • @MrRuination
    @MrRuination Před 4 lety

    Greetings! New subscriber and fan here. I see that there are different types/grits of rust erasers. What do you suggest for stone cleaning? I currently use shapton glass stones and a few Atoma diamond plates. Thank you for any assistance!

    • @Burrfection
      @Burrfection  Před 4 lety +1

      bur.re/SBeraser medium

    • @MrRuination
      @MrRuination Před 4 lety

      @@Burrfection i appreciate the reply. Any idea when you'll have more in stock?

    • @Burrfection
      @Burrfection  Před 4 lety +1

      yeah, get a new shipment ever 2 weeks
      just check in next week

  • @davesmith5656
    @davesmith5656 Před 4 lety +1

    Would you do another demo on whetstones and include the Chosera 2K (Green Brick of Joy)? I somehow have trouble with that particular stone, and I think it may be due to an unconventional mix when they make it. Also, there are a couple of American-made whetstones I know of, both soaking stones. I found them easy to use. I'll give the names - I have no affiliation with them other than that I'm American - Sharp Pebble, and Pride Abrasives.

    • @Burrfection
      @Burrfection  Před 4 lety +1

      I have it. Will post soon

    • @davesmith5656
      @davesmith5656 Před 4 lety +1

      @@Burrfection ---- Your video series are very educational, a true service. There may be professional sharpeners who can get a sharper knife, but you explain the basics, the foundations, in an educational manner, generating interest and participation. Your exhaustive rope-cutting test is a prime example, imo, of your thoroughness. Six months ago I knew almost nothing about all this, now I can routinely get an even bevel, a sharp knife, and I'm developing my own style (I go with ambidextrous). Also - I finally have found junk mail flyers useful. Thank you for all!

  • @biscuitkitchentreviews

    A lot of professional sharpener's continue the push and pull method beyond the first stone because they are sharpening for efficiency. They don't really have the time to do single strokes back and forth through their entire grit progression. If you are someone learning sharpening Ryky's method is definitely good for learning and starting out, but as you gain more confidence, speed and consistency, you will probably want to start switching to the push and pull.