You're Probably Already A Socialist

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    If you turn on the news today, odds are you'll hear someone use the term "socialism" incorrectly to try to scare you. In this video, I hope to correct the record and explain what socialism really means. If you'd like to learn more, check out the links below!
    -Resources-
    Online crash course:
    www.socialism101.com
    Books and Pamphlets:
    Why You Should Be A Socialist - us.macmillan.com/books/978125...
    The ABCs of Socialism - www.versobooks.com/books/2219...
    Wage Labour and Capital - www.marxists.org/archive/marx...
    The Conquest of Bread - theanarchistlibrary.org/libra...
    A People's History of the United States - www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-pe...
    Hammer and Hoe - uncpress.org/book/97814696254...
    Blackshirts and Reds - www.michaelparenti.org/BlackSh...
    The Principles of Communism - www.marxists.org/archive/marx...
    Socialism, Utopian and Scientific - www.marxists.org/archive/marx...
    Why Marx Was Right -
    / why-marx-was-right
    Essays and Speeches:
    Why Socialism? (Albert Einstein) - www.exponentialimprovement.com...
    Eugene Debs' Canton Speech - college.cengage.com/history/a...
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  • @inbasicterms-popculturevid1704

    “When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist.”
    ― Dom Helder Camara

    • @LisaBeergutHolst
      @LisaBeergutHolst Před 3 lety +446

      @@zero555 Literally not what socialism is about lol

    • @jacobarcher1097
      @jacobarcher1097 Před 3 lety +321

      @@zero555 how does workplace democracy make people give others food?

    • @StitchesForScars
      @StitchesForScars Před 3 lety +260

      @@zero555 it's about forcing capitalist to give up their production to the workers, and it has more than just worked.

    • @JackRabbit9181996
      @JackRabbit9181996 Před 3 lety +93

      So true! Its almost like they're entirely unwilling to take any responsibility for the shambles our world is in.

    • @fdsfgdhertek8760
      @fdsfgdhertek8760 Před 3 lety +4

      @@zero555 thats communism

  • @benshapiroismysexsiave2028
    @benshapiroismysexsiave2028 Před 3 lety +3591

    A lot of conservatives falsely assume capitalism is a meritocracy where wealth is proportional to how much work someone does.

    • @matimercad0rs
      @matimercad0rs Před 3 lety +316

      as a libertarian i confirm. this is 100% true. meritocracy has nothing to do with capitalism. meritocracy is fake and conservatives know it

    • @McHobotheBobo
      @McHobotheBobo Před 3 lety +39

      Yeah they rely on hella psychoses

    • @LisaBeergutHolst
      @LisaBeergutHolst Před 3 lety +319

      Oh come on, it takes a lot of effort to pick the right parents 😉

    • @chimderahokigbo5229
      @chimderahokigbo5229 Před 3 lety +32

      @@LisaBeergutHolst Maybe if America brings back the nuclear family without pushing the feminist agenda maybe you guys will become better with money

    • @1tuttyfruti
      @1tuttyfruti Před 3 lety +148

      If that was true you could get rich just by working hard on a factory

  • @yourtoastershandemover2211
    @yourtoastershandemover2211 Před 3 lety +2989

    I've been called socialist and communist for wanting affordable education, healthcare, higher taxes on the rich, and higher wages for workers. The Cold War has had lasting damages on American's minds regarding what socialism actually means.

    • @SCHMALLZZZ
      @SCHMALLZZZ Před 3 lety +107

      Obviously not communist because Communism is a stateless and classless society with no money.

    • @slin2903
      @slin2903 Před 3 lety +6

      Besides higher taxes for the rich I agree
      Everyone the same taxes!

    • @yourtoastershandemover2211
      @yourtoastershandemover2211 Před 3 lety +74

      @@slin2903
      Everyone with a similar tax rate would mean the rich would pay much more, the problem is when taxes are cut on the rich it creates a deficit. That's why taxes are raised on everyone else to make up the money lost.

    • @slin2903
      @slin2903 Před 3 lety +2

      @@yourtoastershandemover2211 Yeah but taxing the eich higher sounds like rich ppl would pay 30 percent taxes and other 19 percent
      Not both the same

    • @televizion9962
      @televizion9962 Před 3 lety +58

      @@slin2903 well it shouldnt be the same. If someone has billions 20 more millions to pay to the state is barely even a difference.

  • @requiem6465
    @requiem6465 Před 2 lety +665

    How can I be a socialist when I'm an introvert.

    • @eukarya_
      @eukarya_ Před 2 lety +60

      I'm both of those things

    • @joshuaortiz2031
      @joshuaortiz2031 Před 2 lety +64

      I am an introvert and a socialist. The two arent independent of each other.

    • @sonofgreatsteppes9497
      @sonofgreatsteppes9497 Před 2 lety +67

      Easy! You don't need to go out to streets and shout how Capitalism sucks. You can do whatever you're doing right now and help the cause, either monetarily, actively, morally, or even culturally. I mean, all you need is to believe that Socialism is a better alternative to Capitalism. You do programming, video editing, arts and music, practice medicine, be an engineer, be a reserved debater, a philosopher, an economist, an accountant, an administrator and organizer, hell, even martial arts teacher. I am pretty sure there are groups and chapters, be Socialist or simply charity, that would need your skills and helping hand. That's the beauty of Socialism, it is very inclusive i.e. everyone can do something and help!

    • @aguyonasiteontheinternet578
      @aguyonasiteontheinternet578 Před 2 lety +55

      @@sonofgreatsteppes9497 it think it was a joke comment but i agree with you 100%

    • @HaHa-gg9dl
      @HaHa-gg9dl Před 2 lety +4

      @@kenabbott8585 He can't, he's an introvert ._.

  • @QuestionEverythingButWHY
    @QuestionEverythingButWHY Před 3 lety +5924

    “They have money for war but can't feed the poor.”
    ― Tupac Shakur

    • @JayV98
      @JayV98 Před 3 lety +154

      @nox darkness Even when the religion says to help people. Example: Jesus was a socialist! It says in the Bible!

    • @JayV98
      @JayV98 Před 3 lety +124

      @Erik Manbodh It's still a socialist message to help people that Jesus promoted and many tend of these religious people tend to ignore that.

    • @JayV98
      @JayV98 Před 3 lety +67

      @Erik Manbodh The basic concept is that Jesus advocated for helping people no matter who.

    • @JayV98
      @JayV98 Před 3 lety +28

      @Erik Manbodh What matters is that Jesus was for all those things and these religious fools see it otherwise.

    • @jasonl9392
      @jasonl9392 Před 3 lety +59

      @Erik Manbodh Jesus didn't tell us a specific way to give to the poor. he just said that we should give to the poor. given the current state of poverty in this country, we aren't really following his teachings.

  • @VanceVanceRevolution
    @VanceVanceRevolution Před 3 lety +3401

    “This country has socialism for the rich & rugged individualism for the poor” - Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

    • @KJMac-qk9tv
      @KJMac-qk9tv Před 3 lety +108

      As much as I respect MLK, this is a common mistake. Capitalism is the only system for the bourgeoisie (the "rich" under the capitalist mode of production), not socialism. Socialism isn't a term to use for government spending and those who benefit from it, it refers to social ownership of the means of production and economic planning as opposed to market allocation.

    • @VanceVanceRevolution
      @VanceVanceRevolution Před 3 lety +87

      @@KJMac-qk9tv I see what you mean. It would’ve made more sense if he said “welfare” instead of socialism.

    • @doubleirishdutchsandwich4740
      @doubleirishdutchsandwich4740 Před 3 lety +4

      @@KJMac-qk9tv Some people tend to associate socialism's "public ownership" with moving private goods to public goods so they are available to everyone irrespective of capital, and therefore welfare tends to be the end result.

    • @LisaBeergutHolst
      @LisaBeergutHolst Před 3 lety +17

      @@KJMac-qk9tv Tell that to the right-wingers calling Joe Biden a "socialist" to further their own quest for power lol

    • @NoodleErik
      @NoodleErik Před 3 lety +1

      Bernie Sanders also said that

  • @killerkitty8058
    @killerkitty8058 Před 2 lety +68

    Asked my seven year old nephew what we should do about people who don't have place to live, food to eat, or the medicines to save their lives. His answer " Uh, help them".

  • @syedusamamanzoor1838
    @syedusamamanzoor1838 Před 3 lety +35

    Me from a third world country where medical is mostly free, and homeless poor people can get a neurosurgery....
    “How the hell does US work with that stupid healthcare system?”
    But then I realize that my own government is pushing to privatize healthcare.

    • @lilfoward1832
      @lilfoward1832 Před 3 lety +7

      We are one of the most powerful and one of the dumbest countries in the world, sadly

    • @wren_.
      @wren_. Před 11 měsíci

      @@lilfoward1832 then maybe a revolution is in order. if nothing is changing, we can’t just sit around and mope about it not changing, we might as well just kill ourselves if everything is really that hopeless. the people have got a ton of power and could totally change things if we wanted to

    • @MagicXRoads534
      @MagicXRoads534 Před 10 měsíci

      They're probably being pushed to privatize healthcare by the capitalist countries who are home to the massive corporations that stand to profit from the people's suffering, spread the word and don't let them win o7

  • @bloodywanker781
    @bloodywanker781 Před 3 lety +3909

    Dude, here in Europe we don't even call most of it socialism. This is just common sense. what the hell

    • @eliascaals1826
      @eliascaals1826 Před 3 lety +122

      yes

    • @timokho20
      @timokho20 Před 3 lety +164

      This video is so insanely misleading, I beg you to not take it seriously. It leaves out so much vital information. Claiming that only socialism promotes equal rights for all? So much bullshit. It's extremely simplified. Most of these things have nothing to do with socialism. These things arent called socialism in Europe BECAUSE THEY ARENT. Neither in the US. Socialism is such a flawed system, much worse than the relatively small problems of Capitalism. I don't like calling things propaganda, but if there is something that is just blatant propaganda it would be this. Purely painting Socialism like some ideal fairy tale system that would fix all of society. It's blatantly wrong, it does not attempt to provide any real arguments or start a discussion, nor does it actually explain the socialist system. He just puts a bunch of irrelevant fairy ideas and attaches it to what he calls "socialism". There is a reason why almost all countries in the world are capitalist. And honestly, if you think Europe is socialist then you're really brainwashed. As the other guy said, the only country in Europe with any ties to socialism would be Portugal, but still by no means socialist.

    • @Indoor_Carrot
      @Indoor_Carrot Před 3 lety +570

      @@timokho20 can you give any examples of how capitalism is more beneficial to the poor than socialism?

    • @vrenak
      @vrenak Před 3 lety +455

      @@timokho20 If you actually had watched the video, he did point out it was only about the general thoughts of various left ideologies, nor did he claim all the ideas were unique to the left. He also left a whole list of reading material on various left ideas, expressly because he didn't intend to, nor would be able to condense it all into such a short video. But at least we know we can dismiss your points here because you clearly didn't watch any of it, but just came to rant.

    • @timokho20
      @timokho20 Před 3 lety +34

      @@Indoor_Carrot First of it isn't really about whether it's beneficial for the poor, but more for society as a whole, and whether it's right to take away people's money that (yes for most cases) they worked for. Capitalism can absolutely be extremely beneficial for the poor, I mean look at China, which lifted over half a billion people out of poverty in just a few decades, capitalism allows for a free market, innovation, one where the consumer decides the price. It also limits the possibilities of a corrupt government. Capitalism, altho not perfect, is probably the least flawless economic system there is. Capitalism creates jobs, (which yes greatly helps the poor), It allows for competition sparking innovation. Socialism has an enormous amount of flaws. It's impossible to calculate all the prices of products, it's impossible to calculate the exact needed products and materials resulting in either excess in goods or shortages, which can have disastrous results. Prices and markets are absolutely vital to a working running society and allow production to be done according to the demand of the people. It allows for the calculations for prices to automatically be done through all the companies, whether otherwise, 1 governing institution would have it do it. Not only does socialism infringe on pretty basic rights like private property, as an economic system it's far too ideal when it's near impossible to be actually done. In the end, it will make everyone poorer and people will lose their jobs. Sure wealth would be spread more equally, but everyone would overall be poorer and it'd have many negative side effects. The current tax system is already very progressive with the 1% being taxed immensely more than the middle and lower class. Socialism would just be a big step, but also a big step backward. The best thing we can do is make it so that people have equality of opportunity, not outcome. A society with that and where you get rewarded for doing more work or responsibility is an ideal one and one that works.

  • @KodiaxeMusic
    @KodiaxeMusic Před 3 lety +2348

    If you grew up quoting "Mr. Krabs is Unfair", there's a good chance you're a socialist.

    • @hit9819
      @hit9819 Před 2 lety +127

      I will restore the working man to his rightful glory! I will dismantle this oppressive establishment board by board!

    • @cornedbeefloaf5799
      @cornedbeefloaf5799 Před 2 lety +23

      he is tho

    • @trent800
      @trent800 Před 2 lety +7

      lol there is a difference between slavery where your boss would sell your soul for 62 cents and capitalism

    • @galacticbreadboi9796
      @galacticbreadboi9796 Před 2 lety +76

      As a socialist, can confirm. Now i see why my mother didn't want me watching spongebob as a kid /j

    • @The_Blue_Ender
      @The_Blue_Ender Před 2 lety +16

      What if i thought he was dummy thicc?

  • @kenwhite947
    @kenwhite947 Před 2 lety +647

    I’m a 52 year old black man that has lived in the US all my life. I’ve watched several of your videos and I really enjoy your content. What you are saying in this video sound like common sense and common human decency to me. But, unfortunately it will never happen in this country. The people in this US are willfully ignorant and to divided for the silliest reasons.

    • @tylerkrieter
      @tylerkrieter Před 2 lety +52

      That's why together as humans we fight for this.

    • @lystrek9752
      @lystrek9752 Před 2 lety +105

      Ken, I am a 56 years old grandmother, and I have drastically changed my political views. Capitalism is the root of all evil, and I will support the brilliant younger generations in moving our society to socialism. If I can change and learn this late in life, anything is possible.

    • @John-mf6ky
      @John-mf6ky Před 2 lety

      Give it time, the US still has a bad taste left in it's mouth from the Cold war. Most Americans have been pre-programmed to hate anything containing the word socialism/communism because of it. The huge divide on both ends of the political Fringe don't help either

    • @VitorMadeira
      @VitorMadeira Před rokem +36

      @@lystrek9752 congratulations. I'm not American but I understand that taking such position as you are doing, it quite a courage move.
      You are a great example.

    • @meekos699
      @meekos699 Před rokem +13

      @@lystrek9752 Young people are more on board with social democracy! It is what FDR was! We can fight for it.

  • @leealexander3507
    @leealexander3507 Před 3 lety +453

    I studied communism when I was ten years old in order to find out what I was supposed to be afraid of. It was in the 1950s at the hight of the cold war. This led me to study capitalism and socialism as well. Later I looked into these more deeply with an adult understanding along with past economic systems. At ten years old as well as later I realized I was a socialist but would happily settle for a social democracy.

    • @nickmasuen1859
      @nickmasuen1859 Před 2 lety +23

      That must of been real interesting since you where there learning it not just because it was during the cold war, but also because you where there during the "Red Scare" that had come into play during that time.

    • @matthewkopp2391
      @matthewkopp2391 Před 2 lety +29

      I actually had a similar experience. But I didn’t immediately identify as socialist or social democrat.
      I did a geography report on China and found out that they actually had democracy within communism. Then I looked into USSR and found out they had democracy as well. I researched the DDR and found out they had democracy as well.
      Not that there wasn’t oppression but I realized almost everything I was being told was a lie. And that I was being constantly lied to, why was I constantly lied to?
      It was the long road down how all encompassing US propaganda is. When I went to Germany in 1991 I got the real first hand truth of what was the real story both the good and thing people didn’t like. The contrast to US propaganda was extreme. And that propaganda continues to this day.

    • @calin6327
      @calin6327 Před rokem

      @@matthewkopp2391 USSR democracy was a joke. A comedy. A farce. You get one paper, with a few names the one party selected, if that. Usually it was just one person

    • @skygge1006
      @skygge1006 Před rokem +3

      @@matthewkopp2391 the ussr election was a one party election just so you know.

    • @prikipriki30
      @prikipriki30 Před rokem

      You are obiusly laying. You cant understand capital without pre-education, and not to mention with 10y.

  • @fvr6715
    @fvr6715 Před 3 lety +2250

    from a european perspective: only having to hear a sentence like "if you were able to pay a doctor.." is utterly disturbing

    • @argonhammer9352
      @argonhammer9352 Před 3 lety +327

      @Cruiser worst*

    • @tomd5069
      @tomd5069 Před 3 lety +311

      @Cruiser *if you’re rich.

    • @ZugloHUN
      @ZugloHUN Před 3 lety +174

      @Cruiser Nice bait

    • @AnagramGinger
      @AnagramGinger Před 3 lety +184

      @Cruiser it doesn’t matter what your sources are, nothing places the US healthcare in the top 10. Let alone first.

    • @hchskxnbcj
      @hchskxnbcj Před 3 lety +16

      If there would be Public librarys shocked me

  • @larspeterthomsen9798
    @larspeterthomsen9798 Před 3 lety +5134

    As a Scandinavian, it sounds weird to hear that "Liberals are on the left".
    In Denmark "liberal" basically means centre-right.

    • @t6amygdala
      @t6amygdala Před 3 lety +321

      because it is. at least neo-liberals are. classical liberals are libertarian capitalists

    • @user-qs2nr3ee6l
      @user-qs2nr3ee6l Před 3 lety +172

      @@t6amygdala Thats just how its used in Europe.
      Liberal means centre right.

    • @t6amygdala
      @t6amygdala Před 3 lety +232

      @@user-qs2nr3ee6l not really just in Europe. Neo-liberals are not left wing at all

    • @elguacamolesf4414
      @elguacamolesf4414 Před 3 lety +43

      Progressives are center-right so it basically means the same. The difference is the fear mongering from groups more to the right.

    • @user-qs2nr3ee6l
      @user-qs2nr3ee6l Před 3 lety +2

      @@t6amygdala Liberal in spain doesnt mean the same tho

  • @MWhaleK
    @MWhaleK Před 2 lety +22

    To many people not only use Socialism and Communism interchangeably but apply the term to anyone or anything they dislike.

  • @DeputyCartman100
    @DeputyCartman100 Před 3 lety +106

    My favorite thing when someone decries something as "SOCIALISM!!!1" is to ask them to define it. More often than not, they can't, and boy do they get pissy when you tell them "You can't even define what you're using to decry something. Why the hell should I care about what you have to say about this matter?"

    • @optillian4182
      @optillian4182 Před 2 lety +17

      @@thomasmaughan4798 No, it's _public_ means of production. Look it up.

    • @aguyonasiteontheinternet578
      @aguyonasiteontheinternet578 Před 2 lety +12

      @@thomasmaughan4798 lmao stop commenting on every comment that dislikes the right how much free time do you have

    • @ErutaniaRose
      @ErutaniaRose Před 2 lety +4

      @@aguyonasiteontheinternet578 Obviously they have too much. Probably because CZcams comments are their form of validation, and they don't spend most of their time doing anything, even fun non-productive things. Oh well.
      @Thomas Maughan: If you have enough free time to hate on anything and anyone that disagree's with you, then by your own view of the world, you have enough time to fix your life and make it better away from these "evil libs" and "socialist communists" right? Why spend so much time yelling at a void of people you hate when even you admit they won't listen? Just wasting time...and that is something no mortal being can afford.

    • @michaeladkins6
      @michaeladkins6 Před rokem

      Before the misterms, I was called a communist online for radical ideas like when an oil company makes 15B in a quarter, its price gouging. Like raising the minimum wage is a good thing because workers spend their money here when corporations make money it goes to stock buy backs and squirrelled away off shore. Also, dont listen to billionaires on the state of the economy.

  • @Abbetmaan
    @Abbetmaan Před 3 lety +5823

    Second Thought: You're probably already a socialist
    Me, a socialist: Yes

    • @tiagop1410
      @tiagop1410 Před 3 lety +39

      Very easy being a soycialist in a capitalist country ;)

    • @PeidosFTW
      @PeidosFTW Před 3 lety +522

      @@tiagop1410 imagine using soy as an insult

    • @yeahokbuddy2510
      @yeahokbuddy2510 Před 3 lety +120

      @@tiagop1410 ;) Lol SOY you said SOY

    • @skullthunder3181
      @skullthunder3181 Před 3 lety +182

      @@tiagop1410 bootlicker detected

    • @tiagop1410
      @tiagop1410 Před 3 lety +13

      Can u soycialists tell me why everybody that lives in a socialist contry like cuba and venezuela hates it, but the west seems to flirt with it??

  • @leof6046
    @leof6046 Před 3 lety +897

    "It's a cruel jest to say to a bootless man that he ought to lift himself by his bootstraps." - Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

    • @joevignolor4u949
      @joevignolor4u949 Před 3 lety +42

      Dr. King was a brilliant man. Did you know that he collaborated with Gene Roddenberry on the Star Trek TV series in the 1960's? Star Trek was a vision of how humanity could improve itself if humans could manage to adjust and improve their thinking. It contained moral lessons on topics such as equality, human dignity, racism and slavery. Dr. King told Nichelle Nichols, who played Lt. Uhura on Star Trek, that he watched the show with his family every week.

    • @leof6046
      @leof6046 Před 3 lety +6

      @@joevignolor4u949 I did not know that. Thanks for sharing!

    • @pepi7404
      @pepi7404 Před 3 lety +6

      That's my favorite MLK quote.

    • @leof6046
      @leof6046 Před 3 lety +2

      @@pepi7404 Definitely one of my favorites, too.

    • @joevignolor4u949
      @joevignolor4u949 Před 3 lety +2

      @@leof6046 Check it out here: czcams.com/video/cLOZxOo5Czo/video.html and also here: czcams.com/video/pSq_UIuxba8/video.html

  • @Enochluxury
    @Enochluxury Před 3 lety +37

    I'am definitely a socialist, as an older black man in American, being in business for most of my life, what could ever go wrong with a system enacted solely on more and more profit or "GREED" .

    • @user-gu9yq5sj7c
      @user-gu9yq5sj7c Před 11 měsíci

      Some socialists and socialist politicians are only out for gains for themselves too, and don't care about destroying or bullying others. Some people said unions caused some businesses to fail cause they didn't know how to run a business and only cared about benefiting themselves. Destroying people's businesses and dreams that they worked hard to start is selfish.

  • @alexandernovikov5963
    @alexandernovikov5963 Před rokem +7

    Americans find it hard to believe, but in the USSR we had free:
    - apartments with 2-3 rooms for a family. All our parents and grandfathers in the cities had such apartments. Yes, the apartments were not very comfortable and beautiful. But they had central heating, electricity, hot water and gas. These utilities cost ridiculous money.
    - all medicine. Yes, it was inferior to the best Western medicine. But it was available to everyone and no one bred for money. There was no big pharma. Great attention was paid to prevention, physical education. The health of most people was much better. In the 1990s, after the collapse of the USSR, the population of Russia (as well as Ukraine and all post-Soviet countries simply died out).
    - all education from kindergartens to universities.
    - children's clubs, sports clubs, music schools, summer camps (for free or at a ridiculous price) and so on.
    In addition, there were many things that could not be explained. Even in cities, people could not close their doors, crime is low. No one was afraid for the children. No drug addicts, perverts, terrorists and other things. The choice of food was smaller, but the quality was much higher than modern.
    At the same time, the USSR lost a huge number of people and resources in the war, which threw the country back for many years. And after the war, it spent a lot of money in the confrontation with NATO because of the fear of a repeat of the war.
    The USSR was born on the wreckage of the Russian Empire after the First World War and the Civil War. It was a poor, dilapidated country with an uneducated population. After 40 years (despite the huge military losses), we had nuclear power and Yuri Gagarin.
    And I will add more. Putin and modern Russia have nothing to do with socialism and the USSR! This is wild semi-authoritarian capitalism at the stage of capital accumulation. Tell everyone about it!

  • @charisday3846
    @charisday3846 Před 3 lety +2099

    My favorite thing is that this video is literally sponsored by Jeff Bezos.
    Using his money to spread anti-Bezos ideas, pro-gamer move.

    • @Ben-ew9eu
      @Ben-ew9eu Před 3 lety +23

      I wonder..... would it also be possible to rant against Socialism in the same way in a Socialist Nation?

    • @charisday3846
      @charisday3846 Před 3 lety +439

      @@Ben-ew9eu Lol yes. Socialism is not the equivalent of authoritarianism

    • @Ben-ew9eu
      @Ben-ew9eu Před 3 lety +10

      @@charisday3846 Point out one socialist nation then, where you can freely criticize the government

    • @charisday3846
      @charisday3846 Před 3 lety +423

      @@Ben-ew9eu Burkina Faso under Thomas Sankara is one example. He directly took criticism from the citizens and applied it to his policy.
      But with or without examples, nothing in the definition of socialism implies that free speech need be limited.
      Additionally, there are numerous capitalist nations in which you can’t criticize the government, but that doesn’t mean authoritarianism must come with capitalism either.

    • @Ben-ew9eu
      @Ben-ew9eu Před 3 lety +142

      ​@@charisday3846 Thanks for giving an example, I will definitely look deeper into it. Yeah I agree with you on that part, Authoritarianism is not linked to either Capitalism or Socialism. In order to evaluate both forms of economic structues, we should look at the history of both, which so far favors Capitalism. I am aware, that Western influence often times had a bad effect for some socialist countries that may have turned out to be decent countries. On the other hand, I think it should be also discussed, that so many socialist countries turned out to be authoritarian. For the simplicity of things, I don t make a distinction between Marxism, Socialism and Communism here, so I include the UDSSR and Maos China, when talking about Socialism

  • @lukasstaar6860
    @lukasstaar6860 Před 3 lety +2532

    "If you can afford to go to the doctor you can literally extend your life"
    Me as a european: W h a t

    • @jakobbailey
      @jakobbailey Před 3 lety +553

      Did you know that delivering a baby in america can cost you upwards of $10,000? Did you know that many if not most hospitals in America charge a fee for allowing you to hold your own child after it's born? Did you know that our government does not legally allow itself to make deals with pharmaceutical companies for cheaper drugs, so even inexpensive medications cost hundreds of dollars at the point of service?
      My friend had a burst cyst on her ovary, and when we went to the emergency room, she got an xray or an mri or whatever,was prescribed 2 medications, one for pain, and one for nausea, and charged $2000 for the pleasure. Also, I was her ambulance, even though I live a half hour away, because calling an ambulance would've cost her about $1000 more, and that's if it's cheap.
      We're literally cattle for the profits of the rich.

    • @helltubejackie1086
      @helltubejackie1086 Před 3 lety +249

      @@jakobbailey eat the rich

    • @hilopink
      @hilopink Před 3 lety +201

      @@jakobbailey what the actual hell...

    • @hadassahk3653
      @hadassahk3653 Před 3 lety +176

      @@jakobbailey my aunts hospital bill when she gave birth was 33000 dollars. Thank God she had insurance. And keep in mind this was not a special hospitals it was just a regular one.

    • @moneyman88440
      @moneyman88440 Před 3 lety +72

      @@jakobbailey you call an ambulance $1,000 up front
      I went to the hospital for an absess (infection) and they charged me 1,000 to look at it say yea thats an infection and write me a prescription for an antibiotic and 5 weak ass painkillers that didnt work

  • @WindrunnerB4
    @WindrunnerB4 Před 2 lety +273

    I definitely know I’m a socialist, in the US. When I had a family dinner with some of my family when I said I was a socialist my extremely republican uncle just seemed slightly angry then slightly upset that there was a socialist in the family. That’s my coming out story for being a socialist I just can’t wait until he learns I’m also bisexual.

    • @DavidRamirez-se2yt
      @DavidRamirez-se2yt Před 2 lety +42

      Probably calmer than when you came out as socialist.

    • @patchwurk6652
      @patchwurk6652 Před 2 lety +2

      @@DavidRamirez-se2yt Yeah the Right's actually (comparatively) cooler with gay people and other demographics than they used to be. At least as long as they're also Rightwing.
      It probably would be better to be LGBT than a socialist to plenty of them.

    • @goonerbear8659
      @goonerbear8659 Před 2 lety +45

      There was a time when my mother said "I'd rather find out you're gay than you're a Democrat."
      I'm not gay, though both of us have since gone much further left. In her case, it was more of an "oh shit" moment seeing the GOP nakedly engage in a race to the bottom.

    • @halinaqi2194
      @halinaqi2194 Před rokem

      It seems nowadays the republican party isn't even trying to hide or dress up their bigotry lmaoo, they sort of bring up crazy ideas, and people just got desensitized to it.

    • @michaeladkins6
      @michaeladkins6 Před rokem

      @@goonerbear8659I am gay and a lifetime democrat who is tired of democrats somehow always falling short of much actual change. Ill still vote for them every time. They are infinitely better than republicans.

  • @arthurlisi9296
    @arthurlisi9296 Před rokem +18

    Well.. I’m a socialist.. I believe what gets in the way with most people is the ego.. the feeling that your only special if someone else is not.. if you have more than them. The failure to understand everyone is a unique specialist and we are here to share that uniqueness with each other that by nature will enrich the lived experience

    • @sbraypaynt
      @sbraypaynt Před 5 měsíci

      Once you realise that the drive to feel special by beating someone else at the game is a capitalist mindset you’ll eventually come to understand that it’s also a very common trait of toxic masculinity.
      Then at some point you’ll realise that capitalism relies on queer phobia, nuclear families, heteronormativity, racism and this game like mindset.

  • @gorse1465
    @gorse1465 Před 3 lety +300

    im a american and i wish we didnt have to live in fear of having a heart attack and being bankrupted by it

    • @AvroBellow
      @AvroBellow Před 3 lety +15

      It's not a matter of IF you'll get deathly ill.. it's a matter of WHEN.

    • @Berlinbower
      @Berlinbower Před 2 lety +21

      can't fucking believe that people are scared of a heart attack *not because of the heart attack,* but the debt afterwards. christ.

    • @gorse1465
      @gorse1465 Před 2 lety +4

      @@reasonerenlightened2456 bro wtf

    • @reasonerenlightened2456
      @reasonerenlightened2456 Před 2 lety

      @@gorse1465 dictatorship of the proletariat? What is the real way to implement it?

    • @rizzurpa6729
      @rizzurpa6729 Před 2 lety +6

      My dad had a heat stroke about a year ago and refused to take an ambulance because the drive alone is 10,000

  • @Osk.S57
    @Osk.S57 Před 3 lety +552

    There was a phrase in Victorian Britain "The undeserving poor" anyone who was poor or destitute, usually through no fault of their own, were put into "workhouses" . They were then made to do pointless , meaningless work for a bowl of slop to keep them alive. They were punished for not finding non existent work. America still has this "punish the poor" mindset. Poverty is not a life choice, it can happen to anyone. I'll bet many Americans have discovered this with the terrible events of 2020.

    • @IceBox666theone666
      @IceBox666theone666 Před 3 lety +44

      @@thomasmaughan4798 Do you sniff glue?

    • @akenji47
      @akenji47 Před 2 lety

      @@joaovmlsilva3509 boa jão

    • @patchwurk6652
      @patchwurk6652 Před 2 lety +3

      @@kenabbott8585 "Perhaps you should wish for the ability to come up with a real argument."
      Says someone who had no argument. You keep Declaring things, but there's no evidence, no sources, nothing backing up your claim in the slightest.
      Am I supposed to just take you as Gospel? Anything declared without evidence can be equally dismissed without evidence.
      So where's your proof for the following claim: "Here in the real world, if you don't do drugs, don't have kids before you're married, and don't commit crimes, your chance of being poor is less than 10%"
      Citation Needed.

    • @sophiepooks2174
      @sophiepooks2174 Před rokem

      Similar in Australia, a significant number of the working classes have been turned against working class people who have become unemployed and those in their late 50's-70's on welfare demonized by the mainstream media for over a decade.

  • @logans3365
    @logans3365 Před rokem +24

    The more of your videos I watch, the more I get frustrated that I will probably never see this future.

    • @ClassicalTraining
      @ClassicalTraining Před 4 měsíci

      @logans3365 You might be frustrated... but, have you ever thought that capitalism works in such a way, in order to have people frustrated and lose focus, in order to maintain its power?
      Because, the more fog they provide for our vision, the harder it is for us to have courage.
      The bourgeoisie prefer to keep us down, so that they make 100% of our lives.
      We must not let them! We must try to clear our vision! Those bloodsuckers want us down.
      Let us say: NO MORE.
      They will not rob us off our Revolutionary Optimism!
      Fight back will all your might, comrade!

  • @xxthexcaliburxx
    @xxthexcaliburxx Před 3 lety +147

    As a German, a lot of the things addressed in this video are implemented and work fairly well in our country

    • @theo_lp
      @theo_lp Před 2 lety +37

      But i think it still has a lot of capitalism, not the people should work for the industry - the industry should work for the PEOPLE!

    • @Alina_Schmidt
      @Alina_Schmidt Před rokem +4

      There is universal health care (in US terms), there are certain protections that may be less secure in the US and religious fanatics seem way less dangerous in germany. (They still are.) But if you‘re poor or marginalized in any other way in germany, you‘re not really that much better off (if at all). There are still actual fascists and neonazis in the parliament, official government institutions will ignore a right wing terrorists group of serial murderers for a decade, refugees are treated without dignity - and a lot more.
      On the other hand, germany seems to not have such visible anti-racist and anti-colonial movements, at least not to my perception, compared to the US. E.g. the Black history of germany is extremely underresearched and invisible. BIPoC anti-racists are very underapprechiated and acknowleged.
      Not to talk the US better than it is or germany worse than it is, but I guess it‘s always quite complex.

    • @JPJPR
      @JPJPR Před rokem

      ​@@Alina_Schmidt Sorry, but as a German myself, I can only agree with you that we've got it better than the ultracapitalist hellscape that is the US of A. Germany sadly isn't all that socialist at all. Yes, we've got a bare minimum social safety net and don't pay anywhere near as much as for an education as Americans do. But we've got plenty of hypercapitalism for the working class - especially for the seldom talked about but enormous group of people at the lowest end of the economic scale - to "enjoy" and our mainstream political parties are veeeery capitalistic in their policies at home and abroad. Just ask a greek leftist what you should think of the socialism of Germany.
      True, the CDU are not overall as brazenly bigotted as are the Republicans and even most of the Democrats are in the US, but they suck plenty and the rest of the mainstream isn't too far off from them. They are all Neoliberals, at least since fucking pear shaped Kohl. Look it up Alina. (Seriously, do, if politics means anything at all to you.) They all suck. Except maybe for the "Linke" (Left) Party, but they are terminal sufferers of the foot in mouth disease and are shut out from power by the other parties.
      I'm usually quite annoyed how Germany and Europe is often portrayed as some sort of socialist utopia in the US. IT IS NOT. We've all got to get our shit together politically. Germany is fucked. France is fucked. Britain is fucked. All governed by adherents to the tenents of mostly unfettered market liberalism. They all get by on giving lip service to being morally concerned about serious problems like poverty, exploitation, climate change, rent, you name it and NOT DOING ANTYTHING MEANINGFUL ABOUT IT! Sorry ... rant over.

    • @dhotekaraman2320
      @dhotekaraman2320 Před rokem +1

      @@theo_lp I own a Pastry shop. I am going to work very hard for 20 years and have enough saving to open a new Pastry shop on the other side of town. I'll hire a worker to run the new shop. I'll again do the same, again and again. Is this allowed in socialism ?

    • @theo_lp
      @theo_lp Před rokem +10

      @@dhotekaraman2320 today in germany, yes.
      But in socialism it would also be allowed if you give your workers a fair share for their work( this means that you need to pay them the most of the surplus value). And have them all uninonised. And if the shop would Have higher profits than last year you would be forced to give them a pay raise that matches the profit.

  • @xkumanekox
    @xkumanekox Před 3 lety +625

    "LIBERALS/LIBERALISM AND LEFTISTS/LEFTISM ARE NOT THE SAME THING". Thank you for properly clarifying this.

    • @unbiased-resource.provider6839
      @unbiased-resource.provider6839 Před 3 lety

      @Second Thought I always thought the left is the umbrella term & liberal means social issues & progressive means economic issues. What's your opinion? 🤔

    • @edwardroh89
      @edwardroh89 Před 3 lety +7

      @@unbiased-resource.provider6839 we need to distinguish the fakes (aka liberals/neoliberals) who support symbolic issues that mean nothing and the real issues (progressives). the term "left" has encompassed these dirty parasitic liberals alongside us progressives.

    • @reedhoward27
      @reedhoward27 Před 3 lety +7

      @@unbiased-resource.provider6839 Liberalism is generally characterised by representative democracy, free markets, and private ownership of the means of production (Capitalism).
      Leftism (AKA Socialism) advocates for workplace democracy, abolition of commodity production, and working class ownership of the means of production.
      If a leftist calls you a liberal they're trying to insult you, and vis versa.

    • @fatguy6153
      @fatguy6153 Před 3 lety +1

      @@edwardroh89 Progressive was the term used to describe liberals during the 20th century, of anything the socialists are the parasites to the progressive cause of social democracy. For example, Theodore Roosevelt was the most prominent progressive and he despised Marxism and similar forms of socialism.

    • @gezi5927
      @gezi5927 Před 3 lety +6

      @@fatguy6153 yeah he had progressive policies, he was not a progressive

  • @tyman2323
    @tyman2323 Před 3 lety +504

    “You’re probably already a socialist”
    (99.99% of Second thought viewers already knowing that)

    • @christiana5453
      @christiana5453 Před 3 lety +24

      @@GoldenRockefeller Those very same ideas are shunned and demonized whenever they’re labeled as “socialist.”

    • @christiana5453
      @christiana5453 Před 3 lety +2

      @@GoldenRockefeller Why don't you like the socialist plan? Honest question

    • @mr12aT
      @mr12aT Před 3 lety

      *99.98%

    • @kristianstave3904
      @kristianstave3904 Před 3 lety +7

      I'm proud to be the 0.01% then! With that said I still greatly appreciate these videos

    • @MannIchFindKeinName
      @MannIchFindKeinName Před 3 lety +3

      @@GoldenRockefeller You really can't forget that the USSR was not a democracy. It is not a socialist country anymore, yet it still is a kinda shitty place for personal freedom.
      So, with or without socialism (which the USSR never was, socialist, it was state communism) this place is awefull, so it cant be the socialism that was the root.
      And that already is the big difference to today, where people want fairly elected representatives that can actually care about the everyday man, instead of caring for corporations and powerful individuals that keep the officials in power.

  • @dankmeme2913
    @dankmeme2913 Před 2 lety +25

    I would still be working in retail, and happily, if the workplace was democratic. I genuinely enjoy working in customer service because I enjoy helping people.

  • @SarahHeartfrost1
    @SarahHeartfrost1 Před 10 měsíci +14

    I remember when i was in 5th grade, i though the world was so unfair. I invented my own social system where everyone would have their base needs taken care of, but people who contribute more to society could effectively "cash-in" those contributions for nicer things.
    I told my friends about it cuz i was excited that i may have found a solution to a lot of world suffering, and was immediately called a socialist and communist like they were horrible dirty words. I dont remember what my mom said, but she was probably uncomfortable with her kid being excited about socialism.
    Spent my whole life since then thinking this system would never work and that it was a pipe dream that everyone else though was evil. Thank you so much for reawakening my true beliefs! Ive been binging your videos the last week and its been giving me so much hope that change can happen

  • @Matty002
    @Matty002 Před 3 lety +854

    humanity: nobody deserves to suffer
    americans: eww

    • @elin4364
      @elin4364 Před 3 lety +143

      "but its more profitable for them to suffer" - capitalists

    • @JastwatchingYT
      @JastwatchingYT Před 3 lety +5

      @@elin4364 even if they don't want them to suffer they still would have to make them suffer to get more money to make a bigger company which leads to more suffering, more money, bigger company and it just repeats until there is a economic crises.

    • @Dellors-Civic
      @Dellors-Civic Před 3 lety +1

      What?

    • @aneeya9387
      @aneeya9387 Před 3 lety +7

      @@JastwatchingYT capitalism in a nutshell. The capitalists aren't evil, they're just people like us. It's the system that pushes them to do stuff that we consider evil

    • @aneeya9387
      @aneeya9387 Před 3 lety +17

      @Dillon McCluskey we don't want "free handouts" lol we want what we deserve

  • @irishbattletoster9265
    @irishbattletoster9265 Před 3 lety +1453

    This video is blessed by an Irish tank

  • @Cold_Zero_The_Wise
    @Cold_Zero_The_Wise Před rokem +21

    Capitalism: more power to the system
    Socialism: more power to the people

  • @imanolgamez3299
    @imanolgamez3299 Před rokem +7

    In Mexico, in school we are taught of one of the most popular quotes of the country: la tierra es de quien la trabaja (the land is that of who works it) and grew up agreeing with it. It was only a few years ago when I had the luck of finding your chanel and discovering that the phrase was just socialism.

  • @miasolum5612
    @miasolum5612 Před 3 lety +826

    Idea for future Video: "Socialism vs Communism: Whats the difference?"
    May be a good educational video for people who think they are the same.

    • @waspoppin4784
      @waspoppin4784 Před 3 lety +175

      Socialism is when the government does stuff,
      and when it does a lot of stuff it’s called communism.

    • @papichulo4171
      @papichulo4171 Před 3 lety +62

      Communism is the stage after socialism, just as socialism would be the stage after capitalism and capitalism would be the stage after feudalism. Communism is defined by Marx as classless, stateless, and moneyless society. Socialism is needed to build towards communism. Boom answered you're question. Also, if you want a much more detailed and informative explanation of these concepts maybe check out this video czcams.com/video/pAokAC2pZWg/video.html&app=desktop although I will warn you, it is pretty long and only part 1, with the part 2 being just as long.

    • @miasolum5612
      @miasolum5612 Před 3 lety +6

      @@waspoppin4784 xD

    • @miasolum5612
      @miasolum5612 Před 3 lety +26

      @@papichulo4171 I know what it is. But many people think, that for example, the soviet union was fully communist. But by your (and the official definition), its not, cause there was still a state.

    • @Arbaaltheundefeated
      @Arbaaltheundefeated Před 3 lety +11

      @Jhonny Auditore In fact it needs a state to not collapse horrendously in on itself in a matter of a few years, hence the massive bailouts and constant tax relief and maintaining of tax loopholes that allow them to pay in some cases virtually no taxes at all. A capitalist society without an actively interfering state would not be capable of surviving as a cohesive society at all. At least communism has a stateless society without hierarchy as its ideal end goal even if it is likely true that human nature would always ruin it, most probably before it could ever even get that far.

  • @radunicoara8057
    @radunicoara8057 Před 3 lety +276

    Coming from the EU, where literally every country has a state-run healthcare, a retirement schema, unemployment benefits, long-term care for people with disabilities (and this applies even for the poor countries), I find it absurd how the US disregards basic human decency as being anti-freedom.
    Glad that I live in a socialist Europe.

    • @oracle8192
      @oracle8192 Před 3 lety +45

      Europe, unfortunately is not socialist. It is still very capitalist and something tells me that you don't actually live in europe considering that you don't realize that.
      Last time I checked, europe has not had the overthrowing of private property and enterprise nor has it had a proletarian revolution and siezure of the means of production. Now since I'm a communist I wish that it did! I love communism and I love socialism

    • @jpgames4073
      @jpgames4073 Před 3 lety +12

      Indeed. Except Poland and Hungary, we are all free to travel, get the right school and speak out without not much of a restriction. It's really awesome, but I still don't understand, why some people tend to be "unhappy" and tend to go to extremes (anti-vaxx, radical rightists and so on = sometimes i just call them stupid or uneducated)

    • @skullthunder3181
      @skullthunder3181 Před 3 lety +52

      Not socialist, social democracy

    • @Bezimienny1598
      @Bezimienny1598 Před 3 lety +1

      @@jpgames4073 I'm sorry but what do you mean by "Except Poland and Hungary"? While I do not agree with anything the polish government is doing, what you said is a big overstatement.

    • @johnnybestjojo7789
      @johnnybestjojo7789 Před 3 lety +8

      europe isn't socialist

  • @denisdionis4195
    @denisdionis4195 Před rokem +4

    Thank you, comrade!
    I am a student from Russia. For 18 years of my life I lived in a small town in the Murmansk region (it's chilly there at times), where I got a good school education thanks to the wonderful Soviet teachers who still teach us (it's a pity there are fewer of them every year!).
    Three years ago I moved to Moscow to study at university (unfortunately, by the way, for a fee). I believed in the wonders of the market economy, the consolidated competition, but for a year now I am a follower of socialist ideas.
    Like many in Russia, it began with the idea of a great country of the USSR (the red-brown idea, so to speak), but then, as I read Lenin, Marx, the expanse of Russian socialist bloggers, such as Klim Zhukov, Remy Meisner, Konstantin Semin, I began to understand the "truth" :D.
    About six months ago I came across your videos. The first video I watched was about how capitalism ruined Russia.
    I really appreciate your work, it's a really useful community service! You influenced me and you're influencing a lot of people, that's worth a lot!
    Thank you so much again!
    Proletarians of all countries, unite!

    • @someonestupid6385
      @someonestupid6385 Před rokem +1

      i grew up in poland thinking that the left is the worst thing that happened to humanity well (becuse you know soviet union and poland not the best history in between them) now i am a socialist myself i wish you a good day comrade

    • @mogo-wc7xw
      @mogo-wc7xw Před 9 měsíci

      u should probably get out of russia

    • @FloppityFlopFlop777
      @FloppityFlopFlop777 Před 4 měsíci

      The great irony is that Russian communism wasn't anywhere near as extreme as Western "liberalism" in overturning the basic structures that undergird civilization, contrary to popular opinion in America. I find it highly disingenuous of this video's narrator to pretend that extremist *social* "progressivism" is the foundation of all Left-of-center politics. It most certainly is NOT. Real Leftism has always been firmly founded upon *economic* equity. Heck, historically, the Democrats were the party of Southern segregationists. Leaving racism behind was obviously a good thing, but leaving one's brain behind isn't, and that's what contemporary "progressives" who claim the Leftist label have largely done.
      As an old-school Leftist, I've always strongly supported economic, and to a lesser extent, social liberalism. But I'm appalled at the recent, mindless irrationality of identity politics and other social "progressive" movements (which couldn't be more regressive in reality--which SJWs no longer admit exists independent of their "feelings"). I want nothing to do with it. Neither did the former Democrats of the Walk Away movement, who sadly wandered much further right than I could ever go in good conscience.
      At present, I see no viable alternative for classical Leftists like myself in the political arena, so after many years of activism and engagement, I'm taking a step back to regroup. I'm not sure I could bring myself to vote for the right in light of their recent lunatic antics, but I certainly can't vote for the Left again until people of sound mind recapture its leadership and rhetoric.

  • @toastedbread63
    @toastedbread63 Před 2 lety +8

    I learned today in my AP US Gov class that the Constitution and the system that our country was originally made to run under was made so the tyranny of the majority did not make bad decisions against the minority. This was done because at the time most people were uneducated so we need to elect educated people to make the decisions and my teacher thought it was the best idea, but I cant help but think what happens when the public becomes educated like we sort of are today? Do we need this protection against the majority still and it also makes me question why our education system is so bad if it was one of the goals of the government to fight against the uneducated in policy making, it makes me think that our education system is being kept in shambles for a reason, so that the most powerful people can hold a tight fist around the poor that can't get as good an education to be able to learn to not fall under mass medias control. While this is happening to the poor, the rich that attend good schools are able to prosper and pursue successful careers in whatever they want, including politics. This continues the cycle and more rich people keep their power while bringing up the next generation of rich people. Additionally what makes it even worse is the fact that this system affects minorities even more than the average poor white citizen. Not only is there classism and wealth suppression in play but also racism, homophobia, and sexism at the same time in this brutal system.

  • @philstaniscia7103
    @philstaniscia7103 Před 3 lety +1216

    The American Dream, you have to be asleep to believe it. - George Carlin

    • @ericcartmann
      @ericcartmann Před 3 lety +3

      Just a reminder. If workers were able to do their job better than the "managers", what stops them from leaving and starting their own company?
      They fail to realise thats all they can do. They cant run a business.

    • @TribuneAquila
      @TribuneAquila Před 3 lety +33

      @@ericcartmann ok but generally "managers" dont do the same work as workers. So its not so much about the workers being able to do a managers job better, but rather do managers actually provide any tangible benifit a worker cant? Do managers actually provide labor?

    • @kamk8232
      @kamk8232 Před 3 lety +2

      Said the guy that made millions telling jokes. Please.

    • @notmenotyou
      @notmenotyou Před 3 lety +4

      @@TribuneAquila managers do put in labour, even the CEO does. They still put in the hours, but they make rules on behalf of the shareholders. There are large coops that have managers and CEOs, the CEOs are elected, and the profit stays in the company, so the workers control the higher ups, rather than shareholders. Managers arent the problem. It's kinda like with cops. They do put in work but sadly its defending the order of capitalism.

    • @thefistshaker2015
      @thefistshaker2015 Před 3 lety +17

      @@kamk8232 And if he didn't make those millions, you'd say he's just a free loader or something lol. Just because some people are very successful doesn't negate that we have grave inequality, death to preventable diseases, poor work/life balance, etc.

  • @kyleaca5122
    @kyleaca5122 Před 3 lety +1515

    Me: “We’re already socialist?”
    Second Thought: (points gun at back of my head) “Always have been”

    • @misterscorpius1446
      @misterscorpius1446 Před 3 lety +20

      Socialist: "I'm commiting suicide?"
      CIA: (points gun at the back of socialist's head) "Always have been"

    • @misterscorpius1446
      @misterscorpius1446 Před 3 lety

      @ElephantsLover He's saying that 1950s tradcon stuff is not traditionalism.
      The biggest indicator for this is that it was invented 70 years ago.

    • @deadprivacy
      @deadprivacy Před 3 lety +3

      theres usually a gun pointed at someones head in socialism , it gets messy.

    • @FakeSchrodingersCat
      @FakeSchrodingersCat Před 3 lety +7

      @albert einstien Collectivism is a derivative of Socialism, but it is not the whole or even a major ideology within the umbrella and it is certainly not synonymous with leftism. The number of collectivists has never been very high and on the whole the entire ideology has been discredited outside of some anarchist groups, and lip service by unions.

    • @brentkn
      @brentkn Před 3 lety +9

      He did say you can hit "dislike" and leave right at the beginning. That means you were given a choice. You always had the choice and you did take whatever choice you wanted even when you thought you had no choice.
      That is not someone 'pointing a gun at your head'. Nobody forced you to watch this video. Nobody forced you to turn on your computer. You did so out of choice.
      Choice is free will.
      Learn the difference and you will sound less a fool.

  • @derpcreamcone
    @derpcreamcone Před 2 lety +6

    Your probably a Socialist:
    Me a communist: ummmmmmmm…

  • @The_alchemistress
    @The_alchemistress Před rokem +6

    I remember the first time I came across this I was in denial. I thought this was just how normal capitalism was which is strange bc I came from a republican family.
    Now I’m proud to say that I’m a green socialist. I feel so happy and be the hippie alchemist trans-girl here at university.

  • @MaestroSobol
    @MaestroSobol Před 3 lety +635

    You should have broken down why the mainstream narrative equates “socialism” with “authoritarianism”, and also about how large corporations allowed to exist unchecked in a free market capitalism are inherently i democratic and in fact authoritarian themselves.

    • @skore9975
      @skore9975 Před 3 lety +20

      So this dichotomy is kind of a fake one, since socialism can only be truly obtained through revolution, no matter if you're a ML or an anarchist or a trotskyist, or whatever else. Revolution is inherently authoritarian since the authority of the proletariat must be specifically wielded to keep the means of production and political power in the hands of the proletariat. Political authority is also necessary for any truly socialist system to remove the bourgeoisie from power. The true differences lie in where that authority is vested. In all forms of capitalism, that authority is held by the few members of the bourgeoisie and exercised on the working classes in a top-down fashion (up to and even including petty bourgeoisie.) In socialism, that authority is held communally by the proletariat, and wielded bottom-up. So I think that a better classification than a confusing libertarian-authoritarian axis would be where the power is based. I'm not going to get into factionalism and describing the different schools of leftist thought, so this is where this comment must end.

    • @Quetzocotol
      @Quetzocotol Před 3 lety +26

      @@skore9975 I'd like to believe that socialism can be achieved without force, but that does seem idealistic and not ever how it's historically worked. Revolution is authoritarian, it's true, so you could say socialism will always have an authoritarian element that is exercised by the proletariat against capital. It's unfortunate that capitalists will take that nugget of truth and use it to associate socialism with a kind of rigid, fascistic 1984 type society, when in reality socialism will be less restrictive for the individual than our current liberal order

    • @Flying_Spaghetti_Monster
      @Flying_Spaghetti_Monster Před 3 lety +7

      Because it is unstable and can only exist long term under an authoritarian regime.

    • @DkKombo
      @DkKombo Před 3 lety

      @@LD-tn6ff except it's always been a Democratic republic, not a democracy.
      Why does everyone forget that?
      Thus, these reforms, under the right terms, would absolutely be around.

    • @romanempire8705
      @romanempire8705 Před 3 lety

      What's Libertarian Socialism? You got me curious!

  • @angelo_villones
    @angelo_villones Před 3 lety +455

    Second Thought: “You’re probably already a socialist.”
    Me before watching the video: Yup. You’re 100% correct.

    • @frittatas8551
      @frittatas8551 Před 3 lety +18

      The problem is in the US, anything that is SLIGHTLY to the left is considered communism

    • @hfreddy127
      @hfreddy127 Před 3 lety +6

      @@frittatas8551 Finally someone said it loud and clear!

    • @AndrewManook
      @AndrewManook Před 3 lety +2

      @@wilhelmseleorningcniht9410 Communists and Socialists are still leftists, libs are not.

    • @VK-pn6rg
      @VK-pn6rg Před 3 lety

      Laughs in Indian

    • @fakebunny1272
      @fakebunny1272 Před 3 lety

      video: omae was mou soshilaistu
      me: nani!!!!

  • @KILLERONROAD
    @KILLERONROAD Před rokem +4

    Why yes, I am a socialist. I've lived through some of capitalism's worst aspects and early on in adulthood, realized how horrible the system actually is. I dare you to get too sick to work with no savings for several years, I dare you to still appreciate capitalism in America after that experience. I dare you to lose your home while employed because your landlord, along with everyone else, jacked up rent forcing you onto the street. When you see what socialism really is, you'll start to realize how great it really can be for everyone.

  • @Crystal23
    @Crystal23 Před 2 lety +4

    Me a Vietnamese:
    - I'm already 4 parallel universe before you

  • @jayalbertcastigador9274
    @jayalbertcastigador9274 Před 3 lety +642

    Well, the comment section here is going to be interesting

    • @bloopbloop9687
      @bloopbloop9687 Před 3 lety +20

      go hide in our bunkers

    • @terrainvictus1210
      @terrainvictus1210 Před 3 lety +41

      @@bloopbloop9687 estimate arrival of unstable people at 3 hours.

    • @jonathanwilson5355
      @jonathanwilson5355 Před 3 lety +19

      Prepare the popcorn!🍿

    • @terrainvictus1210
      @terrainvictus1210 Před 3 lety +17

      @@jonathanwilson5355 don't forget the drinks

    • @velcranoxofficials9970
      @velcranoxofficials9970 Před 3 lety +2

      @@jonathanwilson5355 Everyone in the community hates capitalism, or has a keemstar-type CZcamsr reacted to this and sent his fans to shit talk about this video?

  • @mick-wz6yu
    @mick-wz6yu Před 3 lety +426

    Jesus this video brought a tear to my eye and then the audible ad came in lol.

    • @akuji1993
      @akuji1993 Před 3 lety +16

      Yeah it probably would’ve been a good idea to not include it in this video....

    • @Sbaliosa
      @Sbaliosa Před 3 lety +128

      Having to play by capitalism's rules does not diminish the integrity of the criticism one may have for that system. You can hate your employer and still show up to work for them every day.

    • @KingyofSpades
      @KingyofSpades Před 3 lety +39

      I don't fault second thought for it but the irony made me laugh ngl

    • @midgetwars1
      @midgetwars1 Před 3 lety +6

      @@Sbaliosa I mean, sure but it probably does if you're shilling Amazon. There's plenty of other companies that aren't as capitalistic and insane as Amazon. Nobody's gonna deride him for putting it on CZcams and enabling ads. It's the only way it is, but advertising Audible isn't the only way.

    • @grundlehunter69
      @grundlehunter69 Před 3 lety +11

      @@midgetwars1 You're missing the point here. This guy needs to pay the bills, Amazon is paying his bills. He's gotta take what he can get.

  • @johntrauger68
    @johntrauger68 Před 2 lety +28

    I've identified as a Socialist since the 80's when I saw where things were going after Reagan. Things have not gotten any better since.

    • @maximevandeneynde7692
      @maximevandeneynde7692 Před 2 lety +6

      i became one after I saw a homeless man dying in the street last year. Solidarity from Belgium comrade

    • @valerietaylor9615
      @valerietaylor9615 Před 9 měsíci

      Things have gotten worse. Much worse.

    • @user-qi6pv9jh7o
      @user-qi6pv9jh7o Před 5 měsíci

      The greater the wealth inequality, the more resources and ability to brainwash elites could have.

  • @FrigidOven
    @FrigidOven Před 10 měsíci +7

    Gotta love the europeans in here thinking they already have socialism.

    • @AutheYste
      @AutheYste Před 10 měsíci +7

      Yeah, I'm kind of disappointed by my fellow European, a lot of them seem to think our governments are so much advanced and have achieve equality. The blinders people put to ignore their own societies' issues are quite impressive.

    • @RoughDetails
      @RoughDetails Před 3 měsíci

      @FrigidOven Years of reactionary propaganda and the carrot of the EU, plus unequal exchange, labor aristocracy and the half-assed solutions that they gave to the proletariat so that they wouldn't demand to have every right that the USSR provided. Every damn thing has gone downhill since the fall of the Soviet Union.

  • @Dell-ol6hb
    @Dell-ol6hb Před 3 lety +125

    I used to be anti-socialist till I really started reading about it objectively and was like "I agree completely" it's amazing the effectiveness of the propaganda in popular media to beat this false idea of socialism into my head.

    • @oracle8192
      @oracle8192 Před 3 lety +6

      Wait so you now believe in proletarian siezure of the means of production, an abolishment of private property and wage labor, and the destruction of commodity form?

    • @onefix8816
      @onefix8816 Před 3 lety

      @@oracle8192 socialism is always tied to communism, it just ain’ gonna work.

    • @kensh851
      @kensh851 Před 3 lety

      I think you think that socialism is pretty much like russia leaving durable and potato is dirty kind a way

    • @remco6816
      @remco6816 Před 3 lety +8

      @@onefix8816 explain why that would be the case? And tell me how many countries in Europe are communist because of their social healthcare systems and schools?
      In my perspective what you are saying is an extremely selective perspective of 2 countries and missing out all the other countries. Like most countries besides America.. while even some states are quite socialistic.

    • @onefix8816
      @onefix8816 Před 3 lety +1

      @@remco6816 there's a difference between social programs, and socialism. True socialism is the equal-distribution of goods across a nation.

  • @DeathIsLethal
    @DeathIsLethal Před 3 lety +441

    *teleports behind you*
    "Stop struggling, you're already a socialist"
    *"NANI?"*

    • @DeathIsLethal
      @DeathIsLethal Před 3 lety +5

      @Exploding Builds thanks, I think this is the original meme I pulled it from,
      ahseeit.com/?qa=22744/coronavirus-sent-successfully-humanity-was-a-mistake-meme

    • @brentkn
      @brentkn Před 3 lety +2

      Not many children out there will say "Screw them, they are on their own."

    • @Water_meter_enthusiast
      @Water_meter_enthusiast Před 3 lety +1

      Nothing personnel, kid.

    • @johnrollex680
      @johnrollex680 Před 3 lety

      You know that it's perfectly legal to set up a worker owned co-op. They just tend to get out competed by other kinds of businesses.
      how can you simultaneously say that corporations are bad at running their businesses and that the entire motivation of our system is to make corporate profits? Doesn't that strike you as slightly internally contradictory?

    • @DeathIsLethal
      @DeathIsLethal Před 3 lety +1

      @@johnrollex680 Bro, go debate someone else. I didn't even watch the video lol, I just clicked on it so I could make this joke. Go away, dude.

  • @aodhstormeyes
    @aodhstormeyes Před 3 lety +5

    Then there's me who goes one step further. I'm communist. In a perfect world, people would share their gains with others, taking only what they needed for themselves, using the extra for the benefit of mankind. But I'll settle for socialism if we can get there.

    • @Rhaegar19
      @Rhaegar19 Před 3 lety +1

      We can't even get everyone to wear masks during a pandemic. I hate to say it, but I think you're a little too optimistic.

    • @aodhstormeyes
      @aodhstormeyes Před 3 lety +2

      @@Rhaegar19 no shit, however socialist values poll pretty well even among the right when they aren't framed as "socialist values", which is why I'm willing to accept a socialist world even if I can't get my communist one.

    • @Rhaegar19
      @Rhaegar19 Před 3 lety

      @@aodhstormeyes Socialism is doable.

  • @NaqrSeranvis
    @NaqrSeranvis Před 2 lety +3

    TL;DR - you are not free in a system that is hellbent on making you deadlocked in a fight for survival.

  • @tristanneal9552
    @tristanneal9552 Před 3 lety +761

    Here's the thing, I think many people on the Right (especially rural conservatives) would agree that all of these concepts are great. It's hard to argue that free healthcare, free education, more power in the workplace, etc. sound like amazing, almost utopian concepts. But it's that last part that's the sticking point - this all sounds *too good* to be true. The arguments against Socialism aren't that it's immoral, but that it's not practical and that it trends towards collapse, and that systems like neoliberal capitalism aren't perfect but get us closer to those goals then pie in the sky Socialism. People see examples like Venezuela and say "I don't want my country to end up like that". My FIL is basically Socialist in his thoughts, but remains a rigid conservative because he's been convinced it's the only system that works.
    A much more effective follow-up video that I'd love to see would be one analyzing why Socialist systems fail, why some succeed, and how your proposed American Socialist system would avoid the trappings and pitfalls that the Right is so afraid of. I think a video like that would be much better at convincing people this system is worth a try.

    • @basass101
      @basass101 Před 3 lety +33

      Add that to the possibilities inherent in identity politics that tends to come packaged with socialism nowadays, and many self-proclaimed classical liberals don't really feel like they have a choice.

    • @yepstill8773
      @yepstill8773 Před 3 lety +107

      How does capitalism work? Bezos makes 1000000000x more than any member of the working class. Is that capitalism working as intended? People were mercilessly exploited just so I could type this comment here. Is it working as intended? Multi national mega corps being given control over the natural resources of developing countries. Is it working as intended? Conglomerates conspiring to manipulate the very workings of the minds of the people for the sole sake of profit. Is it working as intended? Our delicate planet is being thoughtlessly exploited to and has already been massacred beyond the point of no return. Is it working as intended? Because if it's working as intended I don't want a system that works like that, and I don't know why anyone would, except for their being indoctrinated into believing it's the only way to do things.

    • @jasonl9392
      @jasonl9392 Před 3 lety +70

      but these utopian concepts exists elsewhere. people love to claim that Venezuela is socialist when all they do is try to emulate the policies found in Nordic countries. the only difference is that the United States doesnt embargo Nordic countries.

    • @willmungas8964
      @willmungas8964 Před 3 lety +35

      @@yepstill8773 It's clear we need to help the bottom percent and cut off the top percent, but we should still have a capitalism - _based_ economy. The free market simply gets a lot more done without the complications of popular opinion, it's just inherent. The problems lie in the extreme growth of the rich at the expense of the poor, when capitalism is left unconstrained in its goal of profit. OP is correct. We need a system that combines socialistic elements that benefit everyone, some elements to help the bottom few percent live better lives, but also a fair amount of capitalism and merit-rewarding economy. Why should you work a highly prestigious job if you get paid the same as a much lower skill job? Once incentives to work for the qualifications of higher status jobs are removed, people simply won't choose to go through with that, because let's face it, excepting the people who are really passionate about such jobs (which there won't be enough of), most people are too lazy to work a ton for goals they don't care about and don't get tangible benefits from.
      It's clear we need to take some of Bezos' billions and redistribute them, but we need to do it in a way that still gives people incentives to self improve and to dedicate effort to long term goals of status. There will inherently be a bottom 10% in any form of freedom, but we can do our best to minimize the gap between each socioeconomic tier of the population, while still allowing for a small gap that encourages people to go the extra mile and still be doctors, or lawyers, or whatever. We should pay teachers and janitors and restaurant workers more, and executives less, but it's ok for there to be a difference. We just cannot afford to let profit be the sole motivation anymore, and to let the difference be so staggering.
      Bezos doesn't need those billions, but that doesn't mean he doesn't deserve some benefits as the top of the tier. It's also worth making sure that people don't just inherit companies, they have to prove themselves capable and worthy of holding upper positions. More of a meritocracy than capitalism or socialism.

    • @yepstill8773
      @yepstill8773 Před 3 lety +43

      @Will Mungas Capitalism and the free market are fundamentally opposing concepts. The profit
      motive, which is imperative, drives the capitalist to make decisions that undermine the freedom of the market. Thus, it is inevitable that the free market under
      capitalism devolves into a monopolized, duopolized, or oligopolized market.
      Why is the pursuit of profit imperative(and thus inescapable) for the capitalist?
      Such is the very nature of the free market. If the capitalist does not pursue profit, another capitalist will pursue profit, and that means, ultimately, attempting to undermine the freedom of the market, and consequentially driving other capitalists out of the market.
      Is the undermining of the free market the only way for the capitalist to pursue profit?
      It is not the only way for the capitalist to pursue profit. However, to undermine the free market is the ultimate goal of all other means of pursuit of profit. Thus, the subversion of the free market is the ultimate goal of the capitalist, and every capitalist finds himself in a race to establish restrictive dominion over the market. If a capitalist does not engage in this race, he will inevitably be driven out of the market by another capitalist who has chosen to engage in the race towards dominion of the market.
      Does not competition among capitalists in the free market serve to combat this?
      Competition can only delay the inevitable demise of the freedom in the market at the hands of the capitalist. The more capitalists there are at an equal level in the race towards the dominion of the market, the longer it will take for restrictive control to be established over the market.
      Cannot restrictions be put in place to restrict the abilities of capitalists to engage in monopolistic practices?
      Any sufficiently restrictive rules that would strip the capitalist of his ability to engage in monopolistic practices, will completely undermine on its own the freedom that it was supposed to protect.
      But is that still not preferable to the capitalist’s dominion of the market?
      While it is indeed preferable, restricting the freedom of the players of the market is not a good way of preserving the freedom of the market, obviously.
      This is part of one of my essays against capitalism and I hope you at least can see how it's fundamentally opposed to the idea of a free market. Also realize that a free market is not exclusive to capitalist economies.

  • @sidnynasty7908
    @sidnynasty7908 Před 3 lety +827

    Lmao everyone sounding off in the comments about being comrades, we love to see it!

  • @sablin819
    @sablin819 Před rokem +5

    who else is already a socialist or communist before whatching this vid?

  • @tuSpartanDady
    @tuSpartanDady Před 2 lety +2

    Yeah, I understand now, I truly didnt know I was socialist,

  • @markfranzen5424
    @markfranzen5424 Před 3 lety +46

    I wasn't ready to see Michael Brooks this early..... I miss him so much..

    • @SecondThought
      @SecondThought  Před 3 lety +20

      He was an amazing person.

    • @Gigika313
      @Gigika313 Před 3 lety +3

      Rip brooks

    • @David83151
      @David83151 Před 3 lety +2

      I was laughing a few seconds earlier because of the liberals he showed on screen, but once Brooks showed up I got teary eyed right away. ❤️ Rest in Power.

    • @tylerrice7145
      @tylerrice7145 Před 3 lety +3

      I completely owe Michael Brooks to introducing me to Richard Wolff who then truly helped shape my views. RIP Brooks

    • @andthengodpooped
      @andthengodpooped Před 3 lety +3

      @@SecondThought thank you for the work you’re doing. Keep it up. Rest in power Michael.

  • @philanderer23
    @philanderer23 Před 3 lety +912

    making a video on socialism that's sponsored by the bezos owned audible is just so funny to me, great video though

    • @t.3465
      @t.3465 Před 3 lety +34

      @@transon6655 but they surely don't need to rely on "capitalist pigs" for that... do they? lol

    • @Xavier-kq9hp
      @Xavier-kq9hp Před 3 lety +251

      I feel like its even funnier that the company agreed to sponsor him.
      As lenin once said “the capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them”

    • @WoodChoppa911
      @WoodChoppa911 Před 3 lety +1

      Lol, he could've had another deal with a smaller company

    • @Martlns
      @Martlns Před 3 lety +8

      @@t.3465 That's a dumb way to look at it. Nobody really wants to go all-in on socialism, most countries just adopt socialist programs(as has USA actually) to give a better quality of life.

    • @t.3465
      @t.3465 Před 3 lety +1

      @Jasper Smith lol

  • @Ate.ria04
    @Ate.ria04 Před 3 lety +28

    Oh my gosh thank you so much!!! This literally made me understand more . & it also makes sense because Scandinavian countries are always at the top of everything from economic wealth to personal well being. Anyways as a young person who’s graduating from high school in June 2022 I feel like socialism actually works for society. Democracy and socialism . That does not mean I’m a communist! .

    • @MaximCatrinoiu
      @MaximCatrinoiu Před 2 lety +1

      Nice to hear some zoomers have their heads on their shoulders. I'm from Eastern EU and a leftist myself, there are a lot of "socialist/lefty" grifters which end up being neoliberal, corrupt, dictatorial or worse, all of the above. Leftism is a good thing but it can also be naive, be careful of that.

    • @MeltsLikeCaramel
      @MeltsLikeCaramel Před 2 lety +2

      It seems there is hope for America after all.

  • @FirstRisingSouI
    @FirstRisingSouI Před 2 lety +8

    This is what I was brought up to believe. And I was told it was called capitalism.

  • @duck-o9151
    @duck-o9151 Před 3 lety +40

    I live in the Netherlands and my civics teacher said how the US is run that it is not or barely a democracy

    • @LisaBeergutHolst
      @LisaBeergutHolst Před 3 lety +9

      They are correct.

    • @McHobotheBobo
      @McHobotheBobo Před 3 lety +10

      One of the most naked dictatorships of the bourgeoisie

    • @gerritclaesen
      @gerritclaesen Před 3 lety +6

      China ; one party
      US ; two party ( witch do just the same )

    • @oracle8192
      @oracle8192 Před 3 lety +3

      @@bagchasingbandit6274 unfortunately it is not that either

    • @duck-o9151
      @duck-o9151 Před 3 lety +1

      @@bagchasingbandit6274 yes the Netherlands is also not a direct domecracy its a parlemantary democracy we vote for a party and it depends how many votes they have how many seats they will have in the room
      BTW: no party can own more then 50 percent of the seats
      So there are multiple groups and not just left or right but together mashed together forced to come to a agreement

  • @thebreadtable4880
    @thebreadtable4880 Před 3 lety +42

    “We’re demanding either a federal job guarantee or universal basic income, along with a budget that represents the needs of working people rather than the rich.” - MLK

    • @oracle8192
      @oracle8192 Před 3 lety

      Damn I didn't know MLK was a shitty socdem, sad!

    • @thebreadtable4880
      @thebreadtable4880 Před 3 lety

      @Estex it would help those in need the most, so I contend your statement isn’t entirely accurate

    • @thebreadtable4880
      @thebreadtable4880 Před 3 lety

      @@oracle8192 I’m a socialist and I love mlk. Stop being self defeatist and tearing down allies. You have much more in common w a socdem than a conservative or neoliberal

    • @thebreadtable4880
      @thebreadtable4880 Před 3 lety

      @Estex ok then do a job guarantee. I really don’t care we aren’t getting socialism I’ll fucking take welfare while the world burns

  • @combustionberg3303
    @combustionberg3303 Před 2 lety +2

    im not a centrist but im in the middle of the right and the shallow end of the left

  • @nrkapa
    @nrkapa Před 2 lety +37

    We need more videos like this to expand class consciousness and socialism so that one day the tyrants get down from their thrones! Great video as always

  • @kittenpraxis2380
    @kittenpraxis2380 Před 3 lety +424

    me in real life: socialist that wants everyone to live and not just survive day by day
    my GTA account: 💰💰💰💵💵💵📈📈📈

    • @gabec.5514
      @gabec.5514 Před 3 lety +7

      Lmaooooo

    • @filip-i-9156
      @filip-i-9156 Před 3 lety +1

      Add me on psn: FiLiP836

    • @mikefitzgerald406
      @mikefitzgerald406 Před 3 lety +1

      Me

    • @zulthyr1852
      @zulthyr1852 Před 3 lety +22

      Me in real life: Socialist
      Me while gaming: Either a nazi or an ancap

    • @jotarobat
      @jotarobat Před 3 lety +15

      Me in real life: a socialist who believe in the abolition of billionaires and throwing elon musk into a pool of flaming lego
      Me playing Kerbal Space Program: alrighty jebbediah it's money laundering time

  • @amithsaligrama7429
    @amithsaligrama7429 Před 3 lety +61

    I grew up during the cold war and was brainwashed into thinking that leftist reforms were "a slippery slope into communism." It is really hard to change my thinking that socialism is not communism, and I'm glad that channels like Second Thought exists that educate those of us who need to know about topics like socialism without falling into the trap of calling everything "communist"

    • @juliancoenen4917
      @juliancoenen4917 Před 3 lety +4

      And i hope you know already what communism means, be safe.

    • @oracle8192
      @oracle8192 Před 3 lety +1

      Woah woah woah what's wrong with a slippery slope into communism?
      Communism is great! Embrace it!

    • @derblaue
      @derblaue Před 3 lety +4

      @@oracle8192 I think communsim is an unreachable ideal. Planned economy just doesn't work. I think that an Europe with more socalist values and less capitalism is the most realistic way to go.

    • @oracle8192
      @oracle8192 Před 3 lety +1

      @@derblaue I do hope you know that europe is capitalist

    • @brianfox771
      @brianfox771 Před 3 lety +9

      @@warpdrive9229 I think you're conflating or confusing Communism with Stalinism, Leninism and Maoism. These were not Marxist Communism by any stretch of the imagination. They were Totalitarian cults of personality with rigid planned economies. They were products of pretty warped misinterpretations of Marxist theory. Real Communism is about as libertarian as you can get: decentralized, direct democracy, no hierarchical leadership. Communities, Co-ops and communes working together cooperatively and in coordinated effort to meet the needs of individuals and societies.
      Far fetched now? Perhaps. But give it a few centuries when we are in real deep into being a post-scarcity society and I think it will be inevitable. And that won't be a bad thing.

  • @mitologijaiokultizam7608
    @mitologijaiokultizam7608 Před 2 lety +8

    You really helped me a lot with this little story. You helped me understand and realise, that being a Socialist not only is not wrong, contreary, if you enter in the whole thing realy honest, and with pure heart, mind and soul, it can be wonderful, fulfilling, and satisfying. And I think it's a way of life in wich we all, people of the entire world could have hope for the better and brighter future. From my hear, thank you brother. Much love, respect, and best wishes, from Serbia, southeast Europe.😊😎😇

  • @exi8550
    @exi8550 Před 3 lety +2

    Ayn Rand and Milton Friedman set us back 3 decades in talking about these issues, because giant companies started to fund people who spit out the corrosive ideals of capitalism and selfishness as if it is helping the common good.

  • @calvincorn7985
    @calvincorn7985 Před 3 lety +20

    I remember 2 years ago I thought socialism was a dumb ideology. Then I read more, learned more, 2020 radicalized the hell out of me, I realized that racism and capitalism were directly linked, how the state is responsible for upholding this unjust hierarchy and boom: now I’m an anarchist. Crazy how fast you can change in such a short amount of time.

    • @Zabuzakashi
      @Zabuzakashi Před 3 lety

      I applaud you! Any advice on how to root friends that have fallen into a more right-wing ideology trap in reality? What worked for you?

    • @calvincorn7985
      @calvincorn7985 Před 3 lety +3

      @@Zabuzakashi Depends on how far deep they are honestly. The best cure for ignorance though is education and how you frame that education. My advice would be to take it slow, criticize the Dems and Republicans in a soft way. Highlight the flaws in the system and how capitalist liberalism fails on its problem of freedom and equality. Keep inching towards the possibility for change outside of the established political realm. It’ll take time, all of my close friends are socialists now cause I just talked to them about stuff. Good luck comrade!

  • @racheldobbs2028
    @racheldobbs2028 Před 3 lety +129

    As a devout Catholic, I feel that socialism is closer to my beliefs than any other system which is why I'm a socialist as well. It's a system that wants equality for all and recognizes that everyone is important and that we all must work together to make society work. We need it more than ever

    • @americancommunist6076
      @americancommunist6076 Před 3 lety +9

      You are an amazing person, I truly mean it.

    • @racheldobbs2028
      @racheldobbs2028 Před 3 lety +2

      @@americancommunist6076 thank you 😀

    • @Apethgrader
      @Apethgrader Před 3 lety +2

      @@jamesgudgeon453 So is forced taxation and not paying your bills.

    • @thomasweitbrecht8105
      @thomasweitbrecht8105 Před 2 lety

      capitalism also recognizes that everyone is important and that we must all work together

    • @thomasweitbrecht8105
      @thomasweitbrecht8105 Před 2 lety

      @@thomasmaughan4798 its not because you don't own the means of production that you are not important, plus, if the means of production go to the workers there will not be any incentive for entrepreurs to create new buisness or innovate

  • @DD-jm5ug
    @DD-jm5ug Před 2 lety +4

    It's called being a decent human.

  • @mards2479
    @mards2479 Před rokem +2

    4:45 I never expect Baltimore to be used for stock footage

  • @paul2019.
    @paul2019. Před 3 lety +133

    It’s like “do you want things easier and no mad poor people to bug you?”
    And the right says “no”

    • @Ben-ew9eu
      @Ben-ew9eu Před 3 lety +4

      Sure. Thats why conservatives invented the social market economy. Greetings from Germany. The Land which kicked their Communists out 30years ago

    • @supermixiegold
      @supermixiegold Před 2 lety +6

      And you ask “what? why??”
      And they say “cause I want money, now”

    • @taramaforhaikido7272
      @taramaforhaikido7272 Před rokem

      If being bugged by people makes money they it makes money.

  • @sersnuggles7697
    @sersnuggles7697 Před 3 lety +87

    me: Dad I'm a socialist
    My south Korean Dad: Haisshhh! (hits me with bamboo stick)

    • @PrayIsHere
      @PrayIsHere Před 3 lety +2

      South Korea is inherently socialist though

    • @IndrasChildDeepAsleep
      @IndrasChildDeepAsleep Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah anti-socialist propaganda... Fun

    • @sersnuggles7697
      @sersnuggles7697 Před 3 lety +2

      @PCMASTERACE my dad is korean tho my mom is Chinese sooo... (clashing in household noises)

    • @whenyoupulloutyourdickands4023
      @whenyoupulloutyourdickands4023 Před 3 lety

      @@liquidminds or South Koreans just have common sense.
      Look how quickly Vietnam adopted capitalist systems into their economic model after driving out all *DE EVUL CAPITALIST AMERICANS*
      Nothing says "not-capitalist" like having McDonald's in every city amirite?

  • @popoffs5273
    @popoffs5273 Před rokem +5

    So, I am a conservative, but there is some good points and views I have never seen before. I am a Christian and I am realizing that conservatives and Republicans do not really care about the core values of the Bible either, like helping the poor, and giving according to ability and receiving according to your needs, as was in The early church. I think I'm coming over to the other side.

    • @Mullkaw
      @Mullkaw Před rokem +1

      If you haven't already seen it, this channel has a video called "How Conservatives Co-Opted Christianity" wherein he explains how the right has completely rewritten christianity as it pertains to politics, and this has been happening over just the past 40 years or so. A very good watch.

  • @cesc9414
    @cesc9414 Před 2 lety +2

    this video is basically a classic corporation infomercial but for socialism and I love the ironic twist

  • @ioana26bc
    @ioana26bc Před 3 lety +196

    The "potluck analogy" was very clever on your part, commendations, great vid too!❤ (You also know what's ironic, the fact that 6 year olds have better mortality than executive CEO`s.)

    • @ioana26bc
      @ioana26bc Před 3 lety +1

      @Justin B😂😂

    • @ConnorJara
      @ConnorJara Před 2 lety

      Most potlucks ibe been to is just various bags of junk food, marshmellows and cheap soda XD. I think this is a pretty apt analogy for socialism, he never brings up the inherent selfishness the common person is capable of. Socialism is practically a utopia the way he describes it. But we for sure do need to change our prison, education, amd healthcare system. The fact is no system will be perfect, capitalism harness humanities inherent greed and competitiveness. Not so certain socialism will curb these behaviors, only exacerbate them in the long run.

    • @ioangiurge959
      @ioangiurge959 Před rokem

      The potluck analogy is pretty clever but also shows the problem for exemple imagine that instead of everyone bringing something different everyone just brings doritos so no diversity

  • @QBert904
    @QBert904 Před 3 lety +451

    “But what they all have in common is a belief in equality, dignity, and the value of human life; and that’s something we should all agree upon.”
    I can’t tell you how many conversations I’ve had with evangelical conservatives that indicated, quite clearly, that they don’t agree on the value of ALL human life.

    • @travisbrunner2922
      @travisbrunner2922 Před 3 lety +14

      Do you respect the lives of the unborn? Oh yeah, they're "just a clump of cells."
      Your hypocrisy is disgusting...

    • @travisbrunner2922
      @travisbrunner2922 Před 3 lety +11

      @Gauthama Siddharth My life > your life.
      See what I did there? You people really make me sick.

    • @hithere5553
      @hithere5553 Před 3 lety +86

      @@travisbrunner2922 the mother’s autonomy>the fetuses right to come to term. It doesn’t matter if the clump of cells is a baby or not, the mother’s right to control her own body supersedes the fetuses right to life, full stop. Would you let someone remove one of your kidneys to save a person’s life against your will? No? Then you have no right to refuse the right of bodily autonomy to any woman.

    • @rudolph2937
      @rudolph2937 Před 3 lety +65

      @@travisbrunner2922 "the lives of the unborn" is an oxymoron

    • @baileymiller1644
      @baileymiller1644 Před 3 lety +7

      @@hithere5553 thats like saying i have a right to kill you because my life is more important than someone else’s, unless you’re making the argument that a fetus isn’t living, your argument makes no sense. Also 99% of cases are going to be people who willingly had sex knowing there is a possibility of conception. Most cases of abortion are straight murder of a human life and if you want that legalized that fine but I hate that people try and say that a fetus isn’t alive. You get charged with double murder if you kill a pregnant woman; why is it different if its the mother doing the killing. I feel like this kind of talk is extremely selfish of the individual and is barbaric.

  • @mimori8
    @mimori8 Před 2 lety +2

    I love seeing a relatively high dislike rate. That means there are a lot of people that clicked this video that didn't agree coming in. Makes it less into a circlejerk and more into a productive way to change people's minds.

  • @jasoncarpp7742
    @jasoncarpp7742 Před 2 lety +4

    If this is Socialism, I welcome it!

  • @thegamingnerfer1498
    @thegamingnerfer1498 Před 3 lety +15

    I used to be very much Authoritarian Right, but just watching videos like these showing capitalism’s downfalls and how much authoritarian leaders are bad for us I turned into a libertarian leftist, so I just want to say thanks for helping me become more reasonable and helpful to others.

  • @Islandswamp
    @Islandswamp Před 3 lety +248

    That pot luck example is great. That's the world I want to live in.

    • @scott2696
      @scott2696 Před 3 lety +6

      Ya, but imagine being forced to go to a pot luck.

    • @ethanchou4906
      @ethanchou4906 Před 2 lety +13

      @@scott2696 food

    • @utrix_1121
      @utrix_1121 Před 2 lety +13

      @@scott2696 that means free fucking food, hell yes.

    • @LeLastMelon
      @LeLastMelon Před 2 lety

      @@utrix_1121 What about the food you had to pay for

    • @utrix_1121
      @utrix_1121 Před 2 lety +4

      @@kenabbott8585You do realize that's not how world works right? You really think that we'll just built our own nation an expect it to be all peachy. Capitalism is literally exastubating so many systems that are pushing the biosphere to collapse. If socialists decided to make our own little potluck the ice caps will still melt and the Anthropocene with still cause a mass extinction. Billions of people are in poverty and capitalism has no answer to this other than 'wait a few generations and your descendants will live barely ok on a dying planet while all the quadrillionares have fucked off'. Capitalism is only good for the 1%, the capital owners, those who cause the most damage and will face the least consequences for this. If you actually had your self-interest at heart, you know as the 99%, the laborers, those who actually do the work. You'd understand socialists and those who wish to provide alternatives to modern capitalism a bit better.

  • @miguelvelasco2097
    @miguelvelasco2097 Před rokem +4

    We need to just do it. Direct democracy is at our fingertips.

  • @throwfascistsintopits3062

    Yes, yes i already am.

  • @JackRabbit9181996
    @JackRabbit9181996 Před 3 lety +163

    Crap, I guess this video isn't for me, I already know I'm a socialist *shrugs*

    • @SecondThought
      @SecondThought  Před 3 lety +81

      Send it to your on-the-fence friends!

    • @pharag4886
      @pharag4886 Před 3 lety +9

      It's a small group of us. But our logic is winning minds over.

    • @JackRabbit9181996
      @JackRabbit9181996 Před 3 lety +12

      @@SecondThought of course, we must distribute the means of education, before we can redustribute the wealth!

    • @JackRabbit9181996
      @JackRabbit9181996 Před 3 lety +6

      @@pharag4886 heck yeah! If people aren't ppenly hostile to our ideas, it's usually pretty easy to get them on board. Easier still with concise, convenient video essays available on the subject (such as this one)

    • @oracle8192
      @oracle8192 Před 3 lety +5

      @@JackRabbit9181996 well, we shouldn't be out here redistributing wealth.
      As a socialist, I'm opposed to that since it's the product of the workers labor. Rather, we believe in redistribution and working class siezure of the means of production. Which is different then wealth

  • @onyourleft5648
    @onyourleft5648 Před 3 lety +61

    Literally had this realization 3 days ago

    • @oracle8192
      @oracle8192 Před 3 lety +8

      And now you are on the train arriving at principled marxism! I bid you well and cannot wait for your arrival

    • @yankees88888g
      @yankees88888g Před 3 lety +5

      I realized this when I read the bible

    • @drummerxkun
      @drummerxkun Před 3 lety +4

      YAY!!!

  • @unclejoe1917
    @unclejoe1917 Před 2 lety +2

    *Jeff Foxworthy voice* If you have ever pulled out of your driveway and used a paved road to arrive to your destination...you might be a socialist.
    If you have ever had a total stranger show up in a big truck and run into your burning house to save a loved one...you might be a socialist.

  • @5688gamble
    @5688gamble Před 2 lety +3

    I think socialist is the default state, when you are born you need social care and as you grow your concern is getting what you need and sharing what you are, trying to your place. Our 3 year old loves to share he'd be happier giving all his snacks to his mum, the dog and I than greedily eating them all, if you tell him the man on the street is hungry, he'll just say to give him food in simple terms, because that's what people do for him and that's what he does with his food when he's had his fill. He doesn't understand the artificial pay-walls the hoarding supermarkets have put up, nor that they have a whole army of people with weapons willing to prevent him taking any of the abundant food on the endless shelves within, employed at our expense.

  • @QuestionEverythingButWHY
    @QuestionEverythingButWHY Před 3 lety +28

    “In a country well governed, poverty is something to be ashamed of. In a country badly governed, wealth is something to be ashamed of.”
    ― Confucius

  • @philipmolina1114
    @philipmolina1114 Před 3 lety +112

    No comrade we’re socialist

    • @johnbarlich7138
      @johnbarlich7138 Před 3 lety +1

      good one

    • @jacquesbutler5170
      @jacquesbutler5170 Před 3 lety +3

      not how socialism works

    • @mrguy9283
      @mrguy9283 Před 3 lety +2

      I love Soviet Union jokes but socialism is very different from communism.

    • @oracle8192
      @oracle8192 Před 3 lety +8

      @@mrguy9283 both are fantastic. And socialism innevitably leads to communism which is a good thing.

    • @jacobarcher1097
      @jacobarcher1097 Před 3 lety +2

      @@mrguy9283 not really socialism is just an economic system where workers control the means of production and is a lower level of comunism where in class money and state have been abolished

  • @bipolarbear9917
    @bipolarbear9917 Před 2 lety +1

    12 Points to Reform US Democracy and the Electoral System.
    1) Get rid of First Past the Post (FPP) (sometimes called plurality) voting, and introduce some form of Proportional Representation (PR) Rank Choice Voting (RCV) preferably - Mixed Member Proportional Representation (MMP(R) with Multi-Member Districts. MMP has voters select both a candidate in their local district and a party they'd like to win a majority. Everyone who wins a district gets a seat, and then additional seats are given out to ensure that parties are represented in proportion to their share of the party vote. This has a number of advantages. Unlike party list representation, people still have representatives with at least some ties to their local area. Voters get 2 votes: one for their local representative, and one for their favorite party. Mixed Member Proportional has familiar local representatives, and simple ballot.
    2) Eliminate/abolish the Electoral College (Article 2, Section 1, of The Constitution). This would normally be difficult, because the Electoral College is constitutionally mandated, and abolishing it would require a constitutional amendment. Over the past 200 years more than 700 proposals have been introduced in Congress to reform or eliminate the Electoral College - without any becoming law. It requires two thirds of the House, two thirds of the Senate, and three quarters of the States to vote in favor. There is another easier way to effectively end the Electoral College without technically abolishing it. Agreement of the States to Elect the President by National Popular Vote. An organization called the ‘National Popular Vote Interstate Compact’ (NPVIC) is pushing to eliminate the Electoral College without tampering with the Constitution. Once the NPVIC has reached 270 electoral votes, the passed bills from all the states will kick in and guarantee that the candidate with the highest vote total nationwide would become the president. So far, 15 states (CA, IL, NY, CO, CT, MD, MA, NJ, NM, OR, WA, DE, HI, RI, VT) and the District of Columbia (Total = 196 electoral votes) have committed to the cause. The bill has also passed at least one chamber in 9 additional states with 88 more electoral votes (AR, AZ, ME, MI, MN, NC, NV, OK, VA). So, we need 74 more electoral votes to eliminate the unfair influence of the Electoral College. A total of 3,408 state legislators from all 50 states have endorsed it. www.nationalpopularvote.com/written-explanation
    *American citizens need to become politically active to make this happen before the 2024 election.
    3) Go back to reliable ‘hand marked pen and paper’ ballots publicly counted and scrutinized. Design simple to understand paper ballots, Standardize the voting system nationally across all states, and do NOT use ‘Black Box’ electronic voting machines (EVMs) or ballot marking devices (BMDs), because any electronic devices are too easily hacked or manipulated to rig voting figures even if using ‘block-chain’ technology. Cyber-attacks can also be undetectable. www.coindesk.com/mit-paper-rejects-blockchain-based-voting-systems-elections
    Paper ballots are more reliable and can be recounted if necessary. Democracy is too important to allow the possibility for cheating.
    4) Install an independent Election Management Body (EMB) to be responsible for the polling, conducting and tabulating of votes in elections and referenda, and the registration of political parties, oversight of campaign finance, design of the ballot papers, drawing of electoral boundaries, resolution of electoral disputes, civic and voter education and media monitoring for the safeguarding the legitimacy of democratic institutions and the peaceful transitions of power. They need to ensure all aspects of any electoral contest meets global norms and follows the fundamental guiding principles of elections, including independence, impartiality, integrity, transparency, efficiency, professionalism and service-mindedness, that perform in the best interest of the voters.
    5) Shorten the Election Campaigns to 4-8 weeks maximum (like most other advanced democracies. This also helps to get money out of politics). Ridiculously long campaigns (18mths) are a waste of money, resources and time; time that should be spent governing the country and providing social programs for citizens needs, not campaigning for re-election.
    6) Voting Days to be held on the weekend (not Tuesday), and possibly in conjunction with Veteran’s Day Holiday. (Make it easier for all citizens to be able to vote).
    7) Ban voter suppression, upgrade the Voting Rights Act, and introduce a 28th Amendment for the right of every citizen 18 years old and over the right to vote, or introduce mandatory voting (every eligible citizen votes - $50 fine if you don't vote) Australia has mandatory voting and because of this 95% voter turnout. By contrast in the US millions of voters are purged from voter rolls, and at least 40% of provisional ballots are thrown in the trash can and not counted. It’s just another method of rigging the electoral system.
    8) Ban gerrymandering of districts to favor one political party. Independent commission should draw district lines, not partisan political parties. Voters should pick their politicians, NOT politicians their voters.
    9) *Consider a Unicameral Congress (only House of Representatives needed to pass Bills. There's no need for the Senate to pass Bills, so situations like McConnell and the filibuster holding up important legislation cannot happen). *(NZ is an advanced democracy and has a Unicameral Parliament which works very efficiently). *(a Unicameral System is also one step closer to a direct democracy of all the common people). Unicameral System: www.investopedia.com/terms/u/unicameral-system.asp
    Bicameral System: www.investopedia.com/terms/b/bicameral-system.asp
    (*The majority of international governments use the unicameral system-with a roughly 60/40 split between unicameral and bicameral.) The only other option other than a unicameral system, is to make it mandatory for Bills passed in the House MUST be voted on immediately in the Senate. Mitch McConnell has sat on hundreds of Bills effectively blocking them from passing.
    10) Campaign finance reform (donations only via private citizens with strict donation limits, ban corporate funding and influence).
    11) Eliminate the need for political party registration (there’s no need to be affiliated to any political party, and it only encourages gerrymandering). No one should be loyal to just one political party. Force political parties to concentrate on policy to attract your vote.
    12) Term limits on all politicians (Congressman and Senators) and judges (in particular Supreme Court justices - no lifetime appointments).

  • @austinpage9463
    @austinpage9463 Před rokem +2

    I think this was the video that radicalized me from a hardcore supporter of capitalism into a die hard socialist now. All it took was a few CZcams videos to completely change my outlook on the economy and the world

  • @ashleyberkowitz8772
    @ashleyberkowitz8772 Před 3 lety +11

    I'm a socialist and not afraid to admit it

  • @mosherboys7893
    @mosherboys7893 Před 3 lety +167

    All my homies are socialists

    • @sebastiand1816
      @sebastiand1816 Před 3 lety +2

      Mine are conservative

    • @yeahokbuddy2510
      @yeahokbuddy2510 Před 3 lety +9

      Mine are all libertarians. Some are the cool lefty kind but some are the right wing cringe kind

    • @cronicasboludas1440
      @cronicasboludas1440 Před 3 lety

      @@yeahokbuddy2510 whats wrong with libertarians?

    • @MfundoTenza
      @MfundoTenza Před 3 lety +1

      @@cronicasboludas1440 libertarianism isn't going to lead to better workplaces. It's not going to solve a lot the of problems we are facing.

    • @yeahokbuddy2510
      @yeahokbuddy2510 Před 3 lety +5

      @@cronicasboludas1440 right wing libertarians are contradictory bootlickers that think that abolishing state (mainly abolishment of taxes) will lead to a more innovative prosperous way of life. They think that the free markets is basically an organism that should be let free to do as it pleases. Some libertarians unironically support slavery of an underage demographic ya know. It goes on and on. Left wing libertarians are pretty based though. They actually want to abolish the state and make sure people are all living comfortably to our needs.

  • @AkiraUema
    @AkiraUema Před rokem +5

    I was shocked to see that Americans consider liberals to be “left wing”.
    In Brazil, liberals are all the way to the right

    • @williamsawyer7993
      @williamsawyer7993 Před rokem +1

      It's a silly term that is thrown around in states, liberals to the right would usually specifically identify themselves as "libertarian" or a "classical liberal." But yes generally in America the term "liberal" refers to the socially progressive left.

  • @aisakemateiwai5376
    @aisakemateiwai5376 Před 3 lety +5

    The Americans opinion on socialism has not evolved past the Cold War era it just stayed there and gradually got more and more muddled.

    • @aesthetic8289
      @aesthetic8289 Před 3 lety +3

      Unfortuantely mcarthy did a good job brainwashing the whole world

    • @aisakemateiwai5376
      @aisakemateiwai5376 Před 3 lety

      @@aesthetic8289 True words have never been spoken my friend.

    • @gr3my
      @gr3my Před 2 lety

      the red scare really fucked us