Ben Foster says Edwin Van Der Sar would do minimal training & still be ready to play for Man Utd! 🧤✅
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- Ben Foster played with legendary Goalkeeper Edwin Van Der Sar for Manchester United & reveals his interesting training methods!
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Van der sar is criminally underrated. Rolls Royce of a goalkeeper. Used to make everything look so easy and looked so calm in everything he did. How he isn't talked about up there with the very best in the premier league era idek
Undoubtedly. His distribution was incredible with both feet.
Will always be top of the list for me imagine what he would've been like if he took his training more seriously
I don't think he is underrated all the clubs knows who is Van der Sar and how good he was that era
@@justonce967 just cus they know who he is doesn't mean he's not underrated 😂🤦♂️ the guy imo is good enough to be in the all time conversations for Premier league and even champions league and he never gets mentioned.
exactly
Van de Sar is criminally underrated. People don’t even mention his name when talking about the best keepers in the premier league era.
Plenty people do. But schmeichal and Cech were just insane. They also
Played in the prem longer
@@scottxtapes9743 actually van der sar played in the premier league longer than Schmeichel
Yes
@@BroodjeEend only by a season but yes true
@@LUFC123 just no, you’re a Leeds fan so obviously you’re gonna say it
Edwin's greatest qualities were communication and organisation. He controlled that defense better than anyone could imagine. He was a top goalkeeper in every way, but he often didn't have to do much because of how organised everyone in front of him was
and calmness!
That’s the best thing about it. If you organise everything so well you have to do less keeping lo
And that’s a massive problem United have with De Gea.. He’s silent, only makes noise when he’s complaining, never before.. If he was more vocal he might not have to do as much complaining… There are other issues like being glued to his line and getting bullied but his silence is probably his biggest weakness… Van Der Sar was a monster and never stopped talking
Poor sod had to do a lot while he was at Fulham
Very true. I don't remember loads of world class saves. He was like another defender 🤣
Van De Sar was honestly so trustworthy in goal for us… whenever we played we could count on him.
Ben Foster offers so much insight to the game it is fascinating to listen to him
VDS didn't need to be the best shot stopper (and he was a very good one) because his ability to organise and Marshall his defenders was top notch. IMHO it's what De Gea lacks the most.
Key factor is that he wasn’t organising an ordinary defence, on their own they were world class too. We have players in the centre of defence that don’t even scan over their shoulders to know where each are, that’s not the job of the keeper. For the most part a keepers job is to just give you a heads up, at least 90% of the rest is on you
@@Sir_P i think that he is correct, when vidic played for Serbia and a few times with inter he definitely not as good when he plays for united.
De gea is garbage
@@bkzlatan 🤡🤡
I can agree with you but have in mind that DDG never played with great defence in Utd, only just now he might.
Edwin had been playing at a very high level for many years. His experience especially in Juventus had definitely helped him a lot. Let's not forget he went to united at a rather advanced age of 34 which is old even for goalkeepers. And he still did a phenomenal job there. I swear he could've played till he is 50.
He was average at juve
He started later so might’ve had a bit more vibrancy in him.
Only won an ucl at Ajax as a youngster lol, he was established before he went to Juve. Also 100+ dutch caps and countless tournaments. Stopped as a captain. Vds is easily a top 10 gk of all time
Foster what a legend of a man. Always entertaining.
🙄🙄 busying making vlogs when Watford were in free fall
@@JohnDoe-ie9ol was still the best most consistent player they had
His mentality sucks but then. Don't miss it, what if I miss it, lol. That's shitty mental talk.
Took him f***ing 5mins to name his favorite goalkeeper.
Ending the clip before they finished the list - great editing @Talksport!
Lol yup, I was waiting to hear his top 2!
Schmeichel had that handball sort of movement to him, such a different type of style, one of the best ever
He had a habit of getting lobbed though lol I say that as a United fan who loved Schmeichel but man, it was always embarrassing when he got lobbed.
Much like Neuer.
Troy Deeney said the exact same thing about foster. Eats crap, trains thrice a week and is still quality come Saturdays hence why foster defended it at the end of the segment!
Honestly, I'm amazed that Van Der Sar was Fulham. That's not a diss against Fulham, it's just really weird that a Champions League great ended up there before going on to United.
You have to remember juve had acquired Buffon from Parma and Al-Fayed was spending money like it was going out of fashion early days at Fulham
He will be going back there soon with united
He joined Fulham because he didn't want to play for a big club, he didn't enjoy his time at Juventus. He saw Fulham as being similar to Ajax, with less limelight.
It was because he had connections at Fulham and was friends with manager John Tigina
@@ewanreid2858 this doesn’t make sense mate
Doing a top 5 and you stop the video after the third one??? What?
The 2000s had tier 1 keepers in the EPL. van der Saar, Cech, Lehmann, Reina , Howard...the list is endless.
Shay Given
🇿🇦
Jussi Jaaskelainen was class as well. Very underrated!
U could say that about alot of players. Every team was stacked or had a superstar. My team leeds were unreal.
Robinson at Leeds. And the one and only David James.
Petr Cech stands out for me as a Chelsea fan I might be biased but he has to be in the top 5. Under appreciated if you look at stats etc. And he did it for such a long time at the top level even after his injury
Would have swapped him with Ederson on his list. Alisson is superior than Ederson. Alisson is a better shot-stopper, sweeper, 1-on-1 imo.
declined rapidly in the last 4 years of his career
He’s top 5 keeper ever for sure
Cech had a very good defence, might be slightly overrated, just slightly. Got exposed when he had mustafi, holding, Laurent Kos Infront of him. Still in my top 10
He was useless at Arsenal, was just there for the pay and London factor. No one remembers him because of this
As a goalkeeper I played for two teams when I was younger and older and both times I was a bench warmer and I wasn't happy. I wanted to be on the pitch playing. Van Der Sar was my hero.
I followed football as a kid but not very closely. But I remember being 7-8 years old watching EVDS highlights on CZcams. He absolutely amazed me seeing him fly all over the goal to make saves. Very underrated as a keeper and as I’ve gotten older I only appreciate him more as a keeper.
We got Van der Sar very late but he's probably our best keeper. Good two feet and always felt comfortable when he was playing.
Do you even know who the Great Dane is??????
@@JollyRogerTheDodger
I said probably and yes who doesn't know Schmeichel. Lol Van der Sar could do everything that Schmeichel could do but had better feet. Of course people have Peter as he was there throughout the treble and he's a great, just felt that our defense was more secure around Van der Sar. Edwin was also in his mid 30's when we got him and he solved all of our keeper issues. No Weird stuff from the Howard's, Carrol's and the Barthez's of our squad.
Just safe hands and intelligent play from Edwin. Just my personal take.
@@kickerse13 agreed!
Massive respect to Ben for showing some respect to Ederson honestly guy never gets the credit he deserves
because he's bang average at the goalkeeping bit...but he's amazing with his feet
Ederson gets lots of credit always has since been at City+rightly so(don't know why you think differently)
I couldn't believe he went to Fulham (no disrespect). But, I was even more amazed he stayed there for so long when United were struggling to replace Schmeichel! It was an obvious signing for United and should have been done sooner.
agreed
Brad Friedel deserves a mention here. A solid goalkeeper who could have played for any Premier League top club and more than held his own.
😂😂😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I don't see why anyones laughing, I agree
What😅😅😅 come on😅😅,
He was okay!
Petr Cech and Edwin were the best out back then, nominated multiple times In Europe & World XI
At Liverpool he was substandard(I was at his first ever game v Leeds on Boxing Day 97)..he couldn’t even displace James. But after he left he did improve ten fold. Shame he’s bankrupt now!
These guys have a really engaging dynamic.
Love Darren’s Bent on drive. Wasn’t keen when he first started but he’s top to listen to now
“Goalkeepers union, weirdos “. That got me 😂😂😂
Love that these guys are having fun 🤣🤣
As a gk myself I totally agree with Ben.the mind is a tricky thing for a gk.its all mentality we do go in our own world sometimes during games.its about being able to switch it on when the ball comes close.we are definitely a bit nuts I loved diving at players feet jumping up knee out to protect yourself.
100%
It's a lot of work to keep your head in the game when you don't do a lot physically
Like Ong Bak 👈🏾
Love Ben Fosters honesty!
Jussi Jääskeläinen most underrated goal keeper.
Thats so true
Foster was great, really entertaining, a natural.
Loads of players used to rarely train, often because of long term injuries, Remi Moses, Paul McGrath, Diego Maradona all spring to mind, and on match day they were bloody brilliant, even without training Maradona had to have injections in both ankles and one knee before every game because he had received so many bad challenges, but come the game he was still bloody great.
VAN DER SAVE! LEGEND
Blunders used to stay in my head for weeks, i swesr i would dream about some of them, it was almost impossible to get one out of my head
100% agree on the nerves as a keeper, the stuff going through your head, it happened to me everytime the opposition approached midfield with the ball. All the mistakes I could make, don't get chipped from midfield, don't sit too deep and allow a breakaway....
I was a full time outfield player, played 2nd Keeper on pretty much every team I played for from through kids and into my 30's. I was a completely different person pre-game when I knew I was playing in net, I had to get into the head space to throw my body and face into an on-rushing players feet. If I showed up for a match and was suddenly told I was in net, that process was missed, I didn't have the same mindset or intensity to do the job.
cheers jeff
Unbelievable Jeff
Well, Foster's and your mentality sucks, sorry. That's not the mental talk you should be having.
You should be like Alisson and not have these negative mental talks.
Alisson seems like his way of coping is via religion, from whatever lil I've heard him talk.
@@newnepal2072 Didn't work much for Allison Monday night
@@mister3566 well, 90% of the time, it's works everytime
That yeah you can was timed perfect
Cech had 10 years at the top and won pretty much everything.
Taibi would've too with those finances!
When Ben said about ederson doing a Cruyff turn I instantly thought of the pass he did against Jota
It makes no sense to compare but let's do it anyway. Schmeichel and Van der Sar were equally great. Schmeichel, like Oliver Kahn was a grizzly bear of a goalkeeper who earned instant respect by his team and the opponent.
Van der Sar had his organizing skill, his length and reflexes. It also helped that he was formed in Van Gaal's Ajax which basically turned him into an extra defender.
Brilliant love talksport
"You can" 🤣🤣🤣
My all time favourite goal keeper is neville southall
Petr Cech is the most underrated and yet, the best goalkeeper in the Premier League era, hands down.
100% he has made so many saves its insanity
He played in a back 11 mate
@@niallireland2940 as a chelsea fan this is funny😅😅, no but really he came thru in big games, like 2012 semi final against barca we were getting cooked he had good saves, and against Bayern in the final he was superman and saved 2-3 penalties
@@kaypakaipa8559 good keeper no doubt, but degea is every bit as good a shot stopper but as a united fan we know he smiles behind Edwin and peter
🤔🤭🙈
The best goalkeepers are great communicators. Talent is obviously at forefront, but controlling your back line and making sure they are in the right positions, make a good goalie much better. The second most important attribute is being calm and confident.
Always confused how EVD ended up at Fulham for FOUR seasons. Did all the big teams have someone really good at that point?
Seeing as there were only like 3 big teams eveyone did have number 1 keepers
His reputation took a dent after a spell at Juve. And Fulham were throwing a few quid around at that time too.
Well I know United didn't. They had Barthez for most of that time and did that thing where they stick with him because they overpaid for him. Rather like how Maguire is undroppable because of a price tag
@@highnoon7097 Barthez was cool man
@@mister3566 but he made several mistakes
So interesting to listen to
EvDS is the best commanding goalkeeper and the prototype of modern goalkeeper (his distribution and passing is underrated).
His Picking goalkeepers that have good defences… so clean sheet mean noting really … put these players in middle table team and we see how good they are ..
Van der Sar went to Fulham precisely for that reason.
Foster is so damn funny and cool 😅😅👏
I'd pick Edwin van der sar over Peter schmeichel in a penalty shootout that's the only thing Edwin had over schmeichel,Peter wasn't very good at penalties but just as good as eachother very hard to pick
van der Sar also had a bucketload of shoot-out heartaches (CL final 96, 96 Euros quarters, 98 World Cup semi, 00 euros semi) before he won his first in the 2004 Euros against Sweden in the quarter-final and then of course the CL final of 2008! Schmeichel was also great at saving pens, he saved van Basten's penalty in 1992 in the semi-final against Holland on their way to national glory and who can forget Big Pete's save against Bergkamp in the 99 FA Cup semi-final! All this to say I'd still take van der Sar over Schmeichel but only by the slightest and slightest of margins and that hurts to not choose Big Pete because I loved him growing up!
@@SATULAL don't make a matter big Peter saved about 2 to 3 penalties though his utd career and thats in competitive games,he be my first choice keeper but in a penalty shootout van der sar be my pick
Massimo Taibi has left the chat*
@@TheNoirAlien XD
He saved the most important penalty vs Arsenal in that semi.
Van der Sar was the best at the ball at his feet.
The first proper modern ball playing keeper that I can remember! You can thank Louis van Gaal and Frans Hoek for that!
@@SATULAL good point
Van da sar had the greatest game when he played for Fulham game was 0 0 he saved 20 shots lol
Picking keepers from top sides though on about ederson clean sheets put him in a Southampton or crystal Palace side for example would he rate him then
It's a completely different role, especially because of what he does with his feet.
Rio, Vidic and Edwin with Gary Neville and Evra. What a back 5z
Really hard to get top 5 GK in Premier League. Old school alone you have (not in order) Smeichel, Seaman, Vab Der Sar, Lehman, Chech, Bartez, De Gea, Dudek, Reina and many more
Darren bent writing the same answers down as ben says his top5 😅😅😅
Just imagine Foster going, ‘oh shite!!! This is gonna be on Twitter and Vlogs’ when he sees Salah or Kane approaching towards his goal. 😂😂😂
Top 5 Goalkeepers in the Premier League Era, so far :
1) Peter Schmeichel
2) Edwin Van Der Sar
3) Petr Cech
4) David Seaman
5) Fabien Barthez
If I could add some more names, they would be:
6) David De Gea
7) Thibault Courtois
8) Alisson Becker
9) Shay Given
10) Brad Friedel
11) Jussi Jaaskelainen
12) Tim Krul
13) Carlo Cudicini
14) Jens Lehmann
15) Sander Westerveld
16) Jerzy Dudek
17) Antti Niemi
18) Hugo Lloris
19) Joe Hart
David James Big Nev Southall...
Tim Howard
Mark Hannemann
Sorensen
Begović
Robert Green
Paul Robinson
Very good with his feet as well
I suppose since you left out number 1 and 2 they both go by the name Peter 😂😂😂
Where’s the final two hahaha
Mad how he went Fulham in 2001 unfortunately we bought barthez year before and thought he would come good !
Sir Edwin Van Der Sar underrated, how!?!?!?
Bent writing the list as Foster speaks
Where's the rest of the list !?
“I’ve rite down”.
How can you be the best Keeper playing with the best back four in the league.
Exactly this, no one is adjusting rating for the defence they play behind.
It's hard to gauge isn't it. How would they get on playing for Southampton
Vds played for Fulham for four seasons and was a giant
Top guy💪
I played semi pro since aged 17, played for my county rep side for 3 years at u19 level when I turned 16, had England Schoolboy trials, and captained in the FA cup, as a goalkeeper. The higher I went I hated training & warms ups increasingly the higher I went. You say Goalkeepers do not need to be fit or dont do much for half the game.. Mental preperation and self confidence was my key to success as a goalkeeper, this does not switch off for 1 second during the 90 minutes where as outfield players can drift in and out of the game, I would play outfield in Sunday amatuer league as a youth player to improve my footwork, understanding of the game in each position, physical fitness and to be comfortable on the ball whilst under pressure. I never once in my career stepped onto a field and felt inferior to my opposite number, even if they had a good game I could respect that as a sportsman and feel I could do the same if not better in every situaton that was presented to my opposite number. A goalkeeper is mind over matter and must believe in themselves, if the team is to stand any chance of believing in him. I was totally behind Dean Hendersons words the other week when leaving Man Utd and can relate to those circumstances as I have never waited around to be a number 2, he took some slack for this but it shows true signs of inner belief, as proved on the opening weekend and will continue to over the season
with the training thing, theres very very few outfield players that can or even want to train extremely light. hazard is the only true example that springs to mind, he never tries even 75% in training from what ive heard/seen. literally doesnt lace his boots up 🤣
Wheres the rest!?
Peter Schemichel
VDS
Cech
Allison
Ederson
How dare u put allison and ederson there....preposterous
@@okeefedunkley3150 reinvented the position which literally gives you an extra outfield player on the pitch.
Some players are just different gravy.
For me as a kid it was taffarel lol
That's because good goalkeeper's can play Ben
VDS best utd keeper of modern era, simple. Then DDG, then Schmeichel.
Its crazy he still holds the record for most consecutive minutes without conceding a goal, especially with how dominant city and liverpool have been
Good fact,. Just saw a video on it, and Cech has 3 stints that are in the top 10
@@nathijomac Thought it'd be more Mid 2000s Cech was not letting anything in
VdS and Cech were a tier above the rest. For me VdS just pips it because at 41 he was still playing at the highest level of football (UCL final) whereas Cech at 35-36 began declining and was at a mid table Arsenal. Not to mention, VdS was great at playing out from the back before it was “cool” (since 1995 with Ajax when they won the UCL)
Under Edwin Van Der Sar, United have a record of not conceding a goal for 11 hours or something like isnt it
What about 2 and 1 ????
What of number 2 and 1?
a legend brought from Fulham to cheap bargain to man united
Who was two and one
Where are 2 and 1?
Where’s the rest????
Wtf Ederson over Allison?? It's jus mind blowing lol this is why I don't take people srsly 🤣🤣🤣
Ederosn over Allison any day
That’s crazy though. Just come in for a few minutes and say that’s it. Lol
Wait who was his 1st and 2nd lol the video ended lol
As a City fan, Alison > Ederson but No. 1 Keeper for me all time is Cech* (*in England)
Its not cech. Its smeichel and you know it. Your city bias won’t let you say it tho. Never even heard cech get named before 😂
@@Johndoe-gf7eu He played for City too btw, but nah, Cech was too good
Who were 2 and 1?
In hindsight Man Utd then should have gone all out to sign Edwin van der Sar after Schmeichel left.
Definitely! May have won more champions league’s if they had.
He would have been in the arguments of greatest premier league keepers ever withe Cech and Schmeichel if we got him right after he left Juve, I cant believe he played for Fulham for 4 years
I don't see how you can get Ederson or Alisson on you best of all time list.
There were so many, Nigel Martyn, David Seaman, Peter Shilton, Petr Cech, Peter Schmeichel, Edwin Van der Sar, Pepe Reina and many others who were better than them, none of whome, had defensive lines in front of them anywhere near as good as those in front of Ederson and Alisson.
I was a little young to see much of Martyn, Seaman, Flowers, etc. And Shilton wasn't a PL goalkeeper. But just to pick up on Reina at least, Alisson is lightyears ahead of him.
Watching football Italia on channel 4 in my youth, I always admired Angelo Peruzzi - IMO
Neville Southall better than the lot of them imho. Not his fault different era, but still played in Premier League 200+ times. Had a crap defence in front of him, but for me, him abd Schmeichel are the best 2
I'm 18 years old now and Van Der Sar is the first goalkeeper i know since age 4 if i'm not wrong😄
I love Goldstein on here, doesn't care about asking any question🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Who was 2 and 1?
Was Peter Shilton playing in PL era
Yes, but he was playing 2nd and 3rd tier
So I'm guessing that he's left seaman out of his top 5 and has shcmeichel at 1 and cech at 2, don't see how he would put Alison or Emerson above seaman.
Part 2?
If he trained a bit more he might of saved that shot from Messi in the CL final that went right down the middle of the goal.
not his fault tho
2011 Barcelona were always winning that game.
Through a handful of players and that speed on it, I'm surprised he even got a hand to it
@@elbongo3593 literally 1 defender mate and practically down the middle.
ben was very under rated unbeatable on his day
1. Seaman
2. Cech
3. Van Der Saar
4. Schmeichel
5. Alisson