Fabio & Grooverider talk RAGE, the creation of the jungle sound and drum & bass today.
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- čas přidán 10. 04. 2022
- Fabio & Grooverider pass by their original spiritual home Heaven London to chat RAGE, the creation of the jungle sound , house music and drum & bass today.
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Been stalkin these 2 on the decks since i was 16 - 17 im now 49 !!! 🙂
Well if he lived near you would you stalk him then ?? Lol
I see grooverider on my travels all the time he lives in the same area as me
@@damianclarkeed6683 strang reply
@@vinman3057 no you said you been stalking them
@@damianclarkeed6683 on the dex for over 30 years east of england
@@damianclarkeed6683 listened to these guys on Radio One, got me into Drum n' Bass back in the day. I was a huge House / Trance head, but loved the banter they had on R1
Absolute legends of the game brings back memories of clubbing in at 17 with a fake ID still loving it
Could listen to fabio n grooverider talkin about the scene all day long. Legends .
This is dope. I would love to see this as a regular series. "History Lessons with Fabio & Grooverider"
for sure. there are a lot of forgotten soldiers and tunes that we should put a face to and give recognition and praise for their individual contributions. drum and bass will Def be played at my funeral via my collection.
i dont think i would be alive if these two legends never invented jungle. making and producing jungle or drum n bass is a huge part of me getting through depression.
Can't agree more! Producing and mixing has got me through dark times
...you mean black tar heroin doesn't work?!
Invented ?? It would be nice if they gave shouts to all us producers that was giving them test presses, promos & DATs keeping them 2 steps ahead of the other DJs in the circuit, alot of unsung innovators (heroes) in the early scene not forgetting the pirate radio stations that were flying the flag for Jungle, when nobody else was interested.
Give respect where due and tell the whole story. Those that know know. That's all.
they did not invent jungle the amen brothers from north Carolina did cause they invented the amen break sorry to break it to you btw the amen brother died broke and homeless cause these jungle producers took there sample with out paying right i do jungle my self and when i found out the truth i payed some money to there family's to use there samples
@@negroantonio28 correct that is a big statement to make.
I agree with you totally.
"This is quite technical, I'm a genius" love it. Brings me right back to about 92 when first heard jungle, then I was buying and swapping tapes as everyone did but grooverider, Fabio, Kenny Ken, Dr gachet , Hype . Exciting times.
@@ORGPPL1 well he's a genius to me.
Respect Fabio and Grooverider been following you since the early 90s thanks for the memories and great nights out.
A lot of things I genuinely dislike about living in the UK, but the underground music scene has always kept me smiling. No one can test this country's bass and breaks heritage. Big up Groove and Fabio and all participants, whether deejays, producers, promoters or ravers, in that early scene. Been listening to this shit since day and still brings many smiles and shivers down my spine :)
YES .. THE TRUE ORIGINATORS .. MAXIMUM RESPECT ALWAYS .. BLESS UP
Could listen to these man chat for days
History knowledge gold from these OG legends
Love the bones of these two. Been an avid fan since the beginning ❤❤❤❤❤they have made my raving days. Sirs I thank you.
Thank you Fabio & Grooverider for keeping drum and bass alive........
Some more vids like this fabio and groove please. A weekly 20 min episode would be good
Legends! Was always locked onto the radio 1 DnB show religiously. Music has come a long way!
please get your radio show back. i miss the 5 mighty rollers :(
Always love listening to these guys
LEGENDS AND INNOVATORS FROM DAY 1!!!
That's the foundation of youth, always listening to new music!
Respect to these two legends still going strong. Very cool interview thanks.
Total Kaos in Leicester used to have a regular Saturday night called Jungle House. 1992 was a cauldron of genres being spawned. I remember both Grooverider and Fabio playing in Leicester those days. Thanks guys. Amazing times.
Utterly beautiful...Brothers innovating and sharing the spirit...Rage changed the game
i always thought rebel MC/congo natty's wickedest sound was precursor to jungle music, got some vinyls of remixes with tenor fly from 91 that i love to blast. this is very interesting, really good content!
LEGENDS ❤️
I still listen to jungle techno, quite unique sound.
Ibiza records, top buzz, dj hype and many others did as much as these guys.
Thursday nights were the best. Great to see this piece. Heaven had the best sound system at the time of RAGE.
Loved Rage I went there every week had every Friday off work because of Rage on a Thursday night……..start upstairs to watch Trevor Fung and these boys then downstairs for Colin Favor Colin Dale and later on these boys downstairs,what a time in dance music,ice poles,rave horns,and Horace selling records in the hallway……I started making tunes because of Rage……eventually sold them in Rage via Horace…..lol. Happy Days respect to you if you was there it was something special
Lots of Hardcore bought by me via Horace
Colin Favor Colin Dale amazing
FOUNDATION! u set levels to a genre of music that is here to stay for a very very long time period. The sound just keeps evolving and allways will becuase the love for the sound it next to none. Bring them old school routes with new twists. JUNGLEANDDNB4EVER.... MASSIVE RESPECT GODFATHERS 👊🏻
Memories come flooding ha ha - respect to these blokes 🔥🔥🔥
Lovely video guys! 😘👌✌️
Enjoyed that guys , history lesson , loved rage.
Two top DJs, Great times..🔥
Jungle nation in Bremen 1997 - first time I saw you two. Banging
Fabio was one of the best selecta’s 1994-6
Friday. Rage. Cant wait.....
This is unreal 😎😍
Still got my old Rage membership card. Great nights!
Props
love this and these guys........
Keep the vibe alive so the people can understand it ❤
absolute quality...
LEGENDS
I feel I could meet you both and not feel intimidated as you are both so humble. Absolute respect.
Would you do a house set?
Legends.
Really enjoyed watching this and used to go to Rage to hear them. It’s a shame that they don’t mention that jungle came after hardcore. All the original jungle DJs played hardcore before jungle came about. It was hardcore that first used speeded up hip hop breakbeats and samples. Underground breakbeat hardcore is still alive and kicking in 2022. Respect is due to Fabio and Grooverider but I feel most of the big name Drum and Bass DJs fail to even acknowledge hardcore. If it wasn’t for breakbeat hardcore there would be no jungle or drum and bass.
As with all history lessons, especially with a 4-5 year period packed into just over 13 minutes of interview, its easy to gloss over the more protracted route that the music took to get from house to jungle. I totally agree with you though, breakbeat hardcore, as its own genre, often gets massively overlooked, particularly the impact and influence of people like Shut Up and Dance. Not to mention the evolution of the sounds from breakbeat hardcore in 1990-1992 into darkside (92/93) into jungle (93-95) which led to splintering into so many different styles of music; drum and bass, techstep, liquid funk etc. I think the key takeaway is that the blending of breaks, speeding up of the bpm and ultimately removal of the 4/4 kick in place of a detuned 808 sub-bass didn't come from one source it was the contribution of DJ's speeding up or playing certain records at the wrong speed and producers from different musical backgrounds experimenting with samplers, incorporating other genres like ambient, dancehall, jazz, dub, reggae, soul, raregroove, IDM, disco and R and B into this bizarre melting pot of music that made something truly special.
Respect my fellow Rage goers
These two are legends, but they don't half seem to suck their own dick. The bigger, more influential names (especially producers) tend to be a lot more humble. - not taking away from what they've achieved just my opinion. The amount of times they said "let's remember that.." "let's not forget.." during the space of 10 minutes lol.
Jungle is just as important as rock n roll in the history of music,it's just ahead of its time and every one else who doesn't know is just way behind...
Followed electro hip hop, then house, break bleeps, hardcore, moved on to jungle, now stuck on jungle techno from 1993, nothing's come better than amen atmospheric vibes.
Similar trajectory as me. But I got heavily into acid house and techno in parallel to old school hardcore along the way, as well as all of the above :)
@@tnt90s yes I went through the acid and Detroit Techno eras also. The acid was getting dark and would open doors in my mind while I was high on whatever was being passed around! Crazy times when people went out for genuine fun.
big up og dons of the game
I have Fabio & Grooverider's Darklands on Hardcore DJs Take Control (1992). I always thought jungle came from early hardcore like this track. One thing I do know, is that if these guys get behind the decks they're gonna rock the gaff!
Jungle and hardcore for them is the same thing I think. It was all house music anyway.
thanks for the knowledge!
the absolute dons, loving the insights, keep them coming please.
thanks for giving my life sense. for so many years.
Recently finished Ray Keith's biography and I've learned a lot about the birth of jungle, and the tracks that came at the very start. I have tape decks from 1995 but I absolutely love the stuff that came just before, 90-93ish. Some Justice, Living in darkness, We are I.E, Radio Babylon. Always looking to hear more!
Absolute legends, respect!
Cool contents!! thank you for sharing legend's oldschool aproach
This is a beautiful piece of history right here.
The OGs of DNB. Respect 👏
LOVE Fab & Groovy ❤💛💚
so good, thank you Fabio and Grooverider !!!!
Legends of the highest calibre. Love listening to everything these guys play and say. Can’t wait til they’re back in the rinse studio👊🏽🇬🇧
They on rinse? I listen to ratpack on Fridays on kool London.
Late 50s now remember Telepathy back in the day still listening with one big smile
Legends
Nice1 guys!
Those days at Rage.
Was in that room watching them both b2b at rage the other weekend was amazing! We need another one Asap!!!
Break beat world 👊👊👊 2 Don's ov the game , upmost respek
Fab & Groove back on Kiss or Radio1! Friction crashed it, and Hype back Wed on kiss 💋 # big up Ranking Edges 😆
Remember the Kiss FM Show. Steve Jackson - The House that Jack built.
And Colin Favor on Kiss!
watching this on my phone now because watching it on my lg TV it made the TV crash. isn't happening with any other CZcams videos. anyone else had this problem??
Yesss ive got the backing song on vinyl! frontline records release aswel! Yall are the donnsss
Thank you for this education
@@ORGPPL1 let's hear the truth?
@@byronvath4879 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿 well someone had to say it.
Ya know what gat me into jungle?
Y'all
I’m going and I really hope you do some mixes using the tunes you used to discover jungle 🙏🏽
@@ORGPPL1 no single person can take the credit of inventing jungle, but there’s no denying they are a group of pioneers.
That aside, it would be cool to see how they mixed those type of tunes together.
@@ORGPPL1 was you there?! Their claim are 100% real as i was there and witnessed it all. Go away
Not for me to say, but if they hadn't incorporated hip hop into their sets, I reckon they'd have been innovative in another way. Really great, insightful interview, can see why they're legends in the game. And shocking that they became djs to actually get into clubs as young black men.
The Dons, salute!
fucking love these two, will always be my favourites!
I hold these two responsible for my love of dnb
Neeed to share some words with them in the future!
You know you made it when your name is in the Oxford Dictionary
Love you Gentlemen, played great music back in the Rave daze.
Have a listen to Clyde stubblefield drum solo 1968 Boston Park U.S.A with James Brown.
It might surprise alot of people how amazing Clyde drumming sounds. This was used in some of the creation of Drum & Bass.
I also started with house music.
On way now ..with MC Robbie dee
If you went to Astoria, you will know. ❤️
Also Crazy Club
What the tune in the background, the first one??
Pascal - P-Funk Era
It was great hearing you speak about rage but I know you both from Ziggy’s I’m gutted you both never mentioned Ziggy’s. Boys that’s where it all started please don’t forget that. Kelly xxx
This is spot on, I was part of the scene when this transition happened and I remember it turned the house/rave scene on its head, house moved aside (only aside and not disappearing) to jungle techno and djs who was interested in this new sound started to play it in their sets along side the house music faithful djs, some would drop both and some totally switched over to the jungle techno sound
What's the first tune they mentioned that made them move towards a break sound.
What is the track with the "circles" sample in it?
Adam F - Circles (Data 3 Bootleg)
Shut up and dance/ rum and black.
4 hero/ dego and Marc mac.
Clive stubberfeild ( the source of dnb)
The winstons ( most sampled track)
Hello , may i ask you what is the first track called "Come on down" or "Calm down" who is the artist please? Thank you :-)
calm down
@@FabioGrooveriderDnB Calm down is an artist, please?
@@mehdizejnulahu8384 czcams.com/video/LaHi2PpAh0Y/video.html
Calm Down (1989)
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@@mehdizejnulahu8384 the artist is Most Wanted👍
What is the track playing in the backround?
LFO by LFO
@@imeach2897 no it was not that track I was asking about. it was the first one that was playing. But I figured it out. Thank you for getting back to me.
Pascal , P-funk era
Balcony @ Rage - nuff said…
Can somebody tell me what tune starts in the background at 4:17, thanks!
You've probably found it after 9 months. But just in case you haven't, Fabio & Grooverider actually mention it on this video, it's LFO - LFO (Leeds Warehouse Mix).
the tune that they talk about, real E? does anyone know the track title, record label and artists name?
I believe they said ''We Are I.E.'' by Lennie De Ice. IE Records / Reel 2 Reel Productions.
I went to a show with Fabio and Goldie and Fabio claimed they invented the genre.
What's the Calm Down track Groove talks about?
Makes you proud to be a Junglist🦍
there guys are great producers but the real inventers of jungle died broke and homeless cause people like these guys took samples from them with out paying for it there called the amen brothers they from north Carolina and they invented the amen break that all jungle is based off of so jungle also started in the states not uk i am a jungle producer i paid the family's of the amen brothers to use there sound unlike these biters so yes they did invent dnb but not jungle sorry so we need to stop giving people credit for stuff they did not do like how Franky bones put on the first rave in the usa and how ak1200 brought jungle to the states and how jungle sky was the first jungle crew in the states those are all lies that you have been told
It’s a shame the scene has been whitewashed. All I see now on the dancefloor is not who looks like me, whereas dubstep and Grime etc is us. Great to see Fab and Groove still stan firm but the rest of the scene, fix it up. Too many man, and white man, same with Techno and House. We started this ish, it was family vibes, now exclusivity because of the middle and upper class wasteman in the place
Total rubbish about we started this, the early raves were full of white People fact is most of these raves that House and Techno were played at were mainly Gay events, So do you still claim that it was family vibes then?? Electronic dance music was started by White Europeans all the original house Pioneers openly say that European Electronic groups is who they were influenced by. Suburban bass and the Prodigy done more for Hardcore and Jungle than these two in the early days and they were all white kids from Essex. Think it’s disgusting that the race issue has to keep getting dragged into this……..move on ffs
@@simonmclean09 lol what a load of shit
Racist! All music is for all!
@@simonmclean09 You say rubbish but we shouldn’t of had to start the conversations on it in the music, wasn’t so before. Nothing rubbish said here at all.
@@fantasyproduct1042 Racism was invented not by African people
*dnb is stagnant now*
I'm sorry but nothing has changed in 10 years still sounds the same. That's why Dubstep gave dnb a bloody nose for awhile. Dnb needs to evolve a bit.