AMiNIMiga Workbench Package for A500 Mini - 3000+ WHDload Games + Doom & Duke Nukem plus much more!
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- čas přidán 9. 05. 2022
- We look at Aminimiga for the A500 Mini - A Workbench package!
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This video has made my day. Excellent! 👍
Had octamed on the go last night - good times!
oh u almost hit the icon for gloom3 which i made when I was 17 :)
That looks amazing, hopefully with future updates it will preform a lot better.
Getting my a500 next week. This looks class thanks
Best A500 Mini Video yet
Cool to see amiwolf and amiduke running :)
Next time try one of my newer Doom ports like zdoom, odamex, boom, prboom or maybe chocolate doom ;)
Thank you for this. I love my 600 and I do art on DP3. I use the 500 mini when I am working away in hotels and on holiday. I like the idea of Workbench and Deluxe Paint on it, so I can do art away from home. My friend Matthew Jones likes Rick Dangerous and I will need to see if it is on it so I can let him know. Thank you.
Wow how good is that !! If any the games could also run from the mini file structure it’s near enough perfect
I hope the a500 Maxi will be faster when it comes out this year.
Thanks for the video.
Why faster? The power of ARM cpu inside A500 mini is just enough to emulate enhanced Amigas. It only depends on emulator requiremments. Bigger accuracy means bigger software requirements. FS-UAE works well on over 10 years old Core2Duo laptop just fine, but UAE code for x86 was updated for over 20 years and is well optimised to properly use the hardware resources. I don't know about ARM version. Emulating Amiga is less resource heavy than video shaders that emulate CRT. They require decent GPU to not slow down the emulation itself. A500 mini with fanmade software is a cool gadget, but emulating Amiga on PC gives much bigger flexibility as you can have multiple Amiga configs to play with different Amiga models. I found it quite fun with trying stock A1000 config with first version of Workbench I've never seen in real life.
nice review.
from start to finish it took just over 6 hours for me . totally worth it
Yeah it is pretty lengthy to get there, it might even have been longer for me.
The whole point of WHDLoad is that not only do you do away with floppy loading but you can run everything on one machine no matter the hardware. I'm not sure why those games were running too fast.
The whdload is a godsend. The loading times are much faster and it allows to run games that were uninstallable when they were released - NDOS games. Also plenty of these games are patched to remove uncompatibility issues or add better controls, trainers etc. For example Slamtilt pinball can be played with a gamepad which is super comfortable. Some games have updated controls so you can play it like some console titles with additional buttons on gamepad. I'm using MegaAgs launcher on FS-UAE and Amiga never been better. I had an Amiga 1200 with hardrive and without any expansion and plenty of whdload games were working without Fast RAM just fine, but on emulator I can have absurd amount of RAM like 256MB and multidisk games that required crazy floppy swapping are running like a charm. Also I'm using modern wireless gamepad that is far more precise and comfortable than those controllers that we had back in the day. Modern optical mouse is also a serious improvement.
nice :)
Great video thank you! Can see it's not perfect but the fact it's running on the mini at all is impressive. Also, how good is ADoom? Really looking forward to diving into this!
Doom is pretty impressive.. just beware it takes a while to copy these files to your USB stick. Slow..
Does the 'pro competition usb joystick' work on this one?
For such a tiny board the mini A500 packs a lot of power. This makes me wonder what else you could use it for besides the Amiga emulation. Linux. Hackintosh? Atari ST? BTW as a way to make sure we are downloading the right package, what size should the download be? 6gb?
I think that sounds about right. It certainly emulates well enough when the correct settings are applied. Wither it could do other stuff.. Im sure it could. Check out the Amiga Pandory set up.
@@CrazyBurger I noticed on your play through, the CPU was set as the 68030, which is way too powerful. I'll be trying the stock 68000. [just got my MiniA500 - i'm hoping i can develop using this ;]
Come for the great accent, stay for the great advice. :)
Lol cheers.. personally I hate listening to myself. Cringe!
@@CrazyBurger Your voice is quite agreable.
@@CrazyBurger Nae worries - everybody hates hearing themselves!
So, does the Workbench ADF you choose to load have to have built into it whatever other programs you want to run?
If you do overwrite the settings. Just pull the config file off the zip again
I noticed you have the same file structure as me. I see Tanx is sat in a folder with other games. Any joy running it? Im really frustrated a cant find it or get it to run
Very impressive work! I have two questions: there are a few multi disk games, such as Batman the movie, so how are disk change handled? What about game saving? If I have to “save a game to disk”, how should I do it, as I believe that the game save feature of theA500 mini will not work properly here and, should it work, it would only save the whole aminimiga session and not the single game I was playing.
Thank you
Disk change should be easy enough by pressing F12 to access Amiberry in game then adding another disk. Saving.. I dunno.. it doesn't work as you need to add save state folders in Amiberry that are missing.. not sure if you can do that through this set up. Ami Jimmy should be able to help.. comment on his comment down below!
WHDLoad was also designed to mitigate these problems too. Take a look in the game's folder for a ReadMe file and scripts for saves disks. Multiple game disks should just load automatically as each disk is contained in single files and are detected by their label when required.
So how much ram does this system have after you boot into Workbench?
Are Doom and Heretic actually silent or was that an edit for copyright reasons?
No, I had just turned the sound down on them so it wouldn't drown my voice. I turned it down too low lol sound is completely normal when actually playing.
It looks great thanks, I tried it but the a500 doesn't see the the whd load file for some reason ? I'm using a 64 gig memory stick
You might have issues with any sticks larger than 32gb. It needs to be formatted to fat32
@@CrazyBurger thanks, I did use a 64gig for the whload from the a500 site that was fine so I thought I would get another usb stick the same for Animiga lol I will get there in the end I'll try a 32g next
wondering how would sysinfo look like?
Do you start the workbench like this every time or does it boot from the workbench from then on?
I think in this state you have to start like this everytime.
@@CrazyBurger Okay, but that's what I want actually. Thanks for the quick reply.
But can it run X-Copy? 😊
thanks mate. u think its possible to get online?
Mmm unlikely as it doesn't have WiFi that I recall.
@@CrazyBurger im wondering if a wifi dongle in usb could be used somehow.
the link you showed is now broken .. cant find a zip download.. only torrent
Can you make a video how to set up 2 players games w two joysticks. Let say Banshee and Golden Axe etc. Two C64 joysticks / two usb and play the game. Its actually a big problem to make two players games works with games on stick and make two joysticks work correctly. Is your workbench / whdl set up for 2 players games?
Let me check it out..
@@CrazyBurger when I plug in two PS4 controllers into A500 mini, all games works very well w/o any set up!
C64 joysticks doesnt do well for 2 players games, its tedious or too much effort. Also C64 joystick doesn't hold well on any table, it require your own modifications to stick them to the table like a good all joysticks we had in 90s. I am very disappointed they didn't add joystick on their A500 mini game controllers like ps4 has.
@@spacekusa wow that's interesting. Are the C64 controllers the official Retrogames ones?
@@CrazyBurger yes, they are official for both platforms. C64 mini and A500 mini
@@spacekusa wow. That's not impressive is it. At least you have a solution. Not quite a joystick right enough.
How many Gbyte must have the USB Stick
for this Package?
16gb should do it.. I'd recommend 32gb though
thx
Great videos, however I can't get the file onto my usb as it won't allow files over 4 GB in size, if someone out there can help with that issue I'd be grateful.
Are you copying the zip file to USB? You have to extract the contents of the zip file first, then copy the extracted files and folders over to the USB.
@@plg3d-285Got it, thank you buddy!
Don't know what is going on with my transfer of files to USB stick. Looks like it is going to take 60 hours, 45 hours so far and at 64%. Maybe issue with the USB stick. (btw way I own an Amiga A500, A1200, Amikit XE, Amiga Forever & Amiga OS 4.1FE).
It does take forever.. though probably not that long! Try a different USB stick. I'm pretty sure it took about 6 plus hours for me
@@CrazyBurger It was a faulty USB stick. Can't even format it now. Brand new too. The version of Aminimiga I downloaded Final V101 is only 6.8Gb in size and extracts to about 10Gb. so only need 16Gb USB. Yet I've seen some other people who've downloaded it say it is about 26Gb.
@@plg3d-285 ah nightmare..yeah it's definitely not 26gb.
I can see why the A500 Mini exists for absolute Amiga newbies, but us Amiga veterans would much rather use WinUAE on PC, with our own configurations and the WHDLoad files are available online for free, or original floppy disks if there's no HDD environment like Workbench set up already.
Yeah not really sure that it's intended for veterans and those that have and use original hardware. I'm sure those that never experienced it originally will get more put of it.. some will buy it purely for collectors purposes
@@CrazyBurger I am a veteran user, with multiple real Amigas (tucked away in the spare room/man cave). Love the A500mini. It's the easiest way to get an 'Amiga' hooked up to my lounge AV system. No messing with emulators (can't be arsed these days), no fiddling around with Raspberry Pi's, just plug and play. Even the wife approves as it looks cool. The AMiNIMiga package is well worth the effort.
I love my A500 mini. I would rather have a real machine like I did back in the day but I don't have one anymore thanks to thieves. It is hard to find where I live. I have never come across an Amiga as of yet. I know how to use it and I grew up on the real hardware.
So piss off elitist.
@@LUCKO2022 I had the real hardware too, back in the day. I just prefer to use WinUAE directly, instead of "limited" versions of it where you can't change settings directly, or at least, ALL settings. I don't touch Cloanto's Amiga Forever for this reason.
!?! I don't get it.
How can Doom run on this ? Duke 3d ?
What kind of Amiga is that suppose to emulate ?
Not sure about doom but I think I did used to run it on my accelerated A1200, but I do recall running Quake.
With my custom config it emulates an Amiga 1200 with 040 at around 160Mhz!
Hy do you know an amiga game where you could create a band (I think it was bears) and you were placed in the charts ? 🍹👋😀
Mmm.. not sure.. Rockstar ate my hamster?
Thank you looks funny, but that's not the game. Maybe it will be a mystery of the past 😋. Have fun ☕️ 😉
Are you able to run this thing in an emulator to try it out?
Don't see why not.. I mean technically the A500 is an emulator
@@CrazyBurger thanks for responding. I just tried it in win uae without success, but then again I am a noob to the Amiga emulation hobby. Still waiting for all of my peripherals for the a500, which is why I have this question anyway. Got some good news from your video today about the firmware update, so maybe I won't even need an emulator on pc.
Thanks for making these kinds of videos!
@@captainandrew016 possible need to try it on a similar Linux based emulator rather than pc windows. I'm sure it should work on a raspberry pi or a anbernic handheld console.
The speed issue is cus it's emulating at 165mhz 68040 ... A tad faster than the original 1200 😂
The vast majority of Amiga games implemented their timing by waiting for a vertical blank. I saw when he started up one of the games, it gave an option to insert a VBL so presumably if he'd added that the speed would be correct.
Your mic level is way too low or your BGM is way too high. Great video presentation though.
Be quick . New Firmware. Now with ADF Support . Please make a quick new video. Thank You.
Done.. yeah play ADF without all the hassle..
@@CrazyBurger And at last you can select which machine you want . Should sort out speed issues at last . always choose 1.3 kickstart for Amiga 500 games. Retro Games Ltd say always choose the higher number but i think they might be wrong . this part part here " Choosing the Amiga model
The Game settings screen for an adf game has additional setting for Amiga model, allowing you to choose between an A500, A500+ and A1200. If you have Expert Mode enabled you will be able to choose between two Kickstart versions per model, though it is usually safer to select the highest Kickstart version of a machine. " I dunno . we will have to test i suppose .
@@Rick_Todd funny enough I thought the same.. though I'm not going to say I'm an expert here.. frustrating though these model options are for ADF files only. Not available on the whdload games.
@@CrazyBurger yes i agree . But looks like they are getting there . slow and sure. More updates to come i'm sure.
Trying to unpack the zip file literally crashed my entire system every time I tried to do it. Really frustrating.
Ended up paying 25 quid (or thereabouts) to have a preloaded USB drive. It hasn't arrived yet but hopefully that'll sort my issues.
Like you, my laptop isn't THAT bad so really it should easily have unzipped even such a large file. I even tried it on another PC and the same issue happened. Decided to just leave it and wait for it to respond. Went to work, came back and still hadn't worked.
I can't be the only one who had that problem. And I was an IT technician for a few years before changing careers, so it's not like I'm a computer novice. Just as well that other doors opened for me, I suppose.
No more dragon 🐲 in every video, it's a terrible game from 3000 games you choose this 😂
Lol just an easy option to show the issues.. I'll not show it again.. probably not play it again either actually
@@CrazyBurger you could use barbarian as an example that also plays to fast . lol
@@Rick_Todd lol that's my next go to game.. yeah it's horrific for playing too fast. Fine if you use the fix in this video.
It seems a lot of Amiga games compare to DOS versions has no music while you play which is quite depressing.
May I ask what is so great about WorkBench? This is not a personal question to you Mr. Burger but just a general question. Every A500 Mini review has comments like "Can it run WorkBench? If not, I don't want it" or "What's the point if it can't run WorkBench? It's not a real Amiga, then." etc, etc. I can't quite figure out the motivation behind comments like that. I understand nostalgia. I understand some being disappointed that the A500 Mini is basically just a game box. But I don't understand why anyone in 2022 would want to legitimately use an archaic OS as their daily driver. There are better modern options for painting, word processing, etc. The old Amiga OS surely can't do modern internet browsing. File sharing must be a pain. Most tasks must take a million times longer to complete. Peripherals are limited. On and on. Now I do understand very specific desires like, perhaps using a unique audio creation application and challenging oneself to work with in the confines of the system's limitations... but the people bent out of shape about the lack of WorkBench support right out of the box are way too numerous to all just be super specific geeks about one specific aspect of the old OS. And for those that wish to create modern retro games for the Amiga using the old programs, well, isn't that just bizarre? Wouldn't it be way better to just use a modern PC and a development application that supports Amiga development (but also includes all the benefits of a modern PC and modern software)? I dunno. I'm not trying to be dense, snooty or offensive. I just can't figure out the passion behind wanting to use WorkBench as a daily driver in 2022.
It'll be purely for nostalgia reasons.. I prefer the more modern front end the mini has. Simple and easy... just has a lot of whdload issues. And it's limited. Maybe the next firmware update will be a game changer. You are right though.. in current times, workbench is clunky.
Workbench "imo" once it's been modded- hands down beats Windoze "imo" for day to day use. Sure it's not evolved as modern day gui's but imagine the ease of use of Windose along with the shear power of Linux, which is not so user friendly imo. WB is such an elegant gui, true multi tasking etc etc etc. Why would I consider going back to WB in day to day use? Imagine a world where you don't get any more forced updates, no more constant updating virus protection, at least modern day virus. Imagine a world where you don't have to worry about multicorps snooping on your data or phoning home - or having an forced hardware upgrade thrust upon you. Or overpriced PC hardware gounging, talking graphics cards here. Bought a load of miggy games and programs in the day, which I can now enjoy again. No wonder interest in retro systems and Amiga OS is on the upbeat. I was using an amiga 1200 to surf the Internet before web browers or WWeb was a thing, usin ftp, gopher, ferrets, email etc. I woulld say it's also nostalgic reasons as well. Not too concerned about compleating tasks, seen the speed that modern pi's can emulate Amiga os at? In truth my next PC build will likely be built around VM's where I run whatever O's i want and finally can say goodbye to Windows.Which imo last good version was 7 anything after that isn't consumer friendly.
@@dwgould2001 Do people still say "Windoze"? I haven't heard anyone say that since about 1997. Talk about being stuck in the past. Do you still slag off Internut Exploder as well?
@@thefonzkiss I was makng a joke lol. As for exploder, I don't use it. The point I was trying to make to the original poster, who couldn't fathom why people today would be interested today in using an old system like Work Bench, which through different forks, is it's still being actively developed and is still useable. But if your happy still using a system which is activily data slurping your info, that installs bloatware even though you tell it not too, or every upgrade, you have to run through your privacy settings and adjust them. Then good luck to you, At least with the Amiga, I wouldn't have to worry about my procceser running at 15 -25 percent in collective background services. Can't wait to get rid of Windoze ;-)
Why would anyone want to play Doom or Duke3d on an Amiga? Totally illogical. Use it to play actual Amiga games.
Please can you tell me how i find the Duke Nukem game in this. I've just installed the package on a 32gb pen drive and popped it into my A500 MINI but i can't find the folder or icon for D/Nukem :( :( :(
why does the author add adult content to this? are they 12? seems very childish.