Firearms Expert Reacts To Apex Legends’ Guns

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  • čas přidán 7. 01. 2022
  • Jonathan Ferguson, a weapons expert and Keeper of Firearms & Artillery at the Royal Armouries, breaks down the weaponry of Apex Legends, including the VK 47 Flatline, the Wingman Revolver, and the Triple Take 3 Barrel Marksman Rifle.
    In the latest video in the Firearm Expert Reacts series, Jonathan Ferguson--a weapons expert and Keeper of Firearms & Artillery at the Royal Armouries--breaks down the guns of Apex Legends and compares them to their potential real-life counterparts.
    If you're interested in seeing more of Jonathan's work, you can check out more from the Royal Armouries right here. - / royalarmouries
    If you would like to support the Royal Armouries, you can make a charitable donation to the museum here. - royalarmouries.org/support-us...
    And if you would like to become a member of the Royal Armouries, you can get a membership here. - royalarmouries.org/support-us...
    You can either purchase Jonathan's book here. - www.headstamppublishing.com/b...
    Or at the Royal Armouries shop here. - shop.royalarmouries.org/colle...
    You can subscribe to the Armax Journal that Jonathan Associate Edited here: www.armaxjournal.org/
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  • @sirswag01
    @sirswag01 Před 2 lety +3006

    I already had a letter drafted for Jonathan to make this video myself if they didn't get to the Titanfall Universe soon. Today is a really good day.

    • @thesteepman7821
      @thesteepman7821 Před 2 lety +73

      yeah some good stuff i also hope they get to some of the titanfall guns that aren't in apex, or see him react to the cool movement or the campaign

    • @InflammatoryCommentMaker
      @InflammatoryCommentMaker Před 2 lety +20

      Yoo! I’ve been a fan of yours since 2016!!

    • @patstefanick9928
      @patstefanick9928 Před 2 lety +40

      Exactly! I really want him to take a look at the anti titan weapons like the sidewinder or especially titan weapons like the xo-16 since the animations are so cool

    • @smalljh04
      @smalljh04 Před 2 lety +14

      @@patstefanick9928 It would also be nice to finally give him some more artillery to look at, he's not just a firearm specialist after all.

    • @d_stef
      @d_stef Před 2 lety +19

      @@patstefanick9928 I wish he would have looked at the R301 and Longbow, i wonder if the slanted mag wells would function irl. Also wish he would have seen the secret G7 M1 Garand easter egg reload

  • @memoryfoam2285
    @memoryfoam2285 Před 2 lety +683

    The Kraber is an AMR, designed to be used against Titans and armoured vehicles, in Titanfall 2 the description of it says something along the lines of 'will obliterate any roughly human-sized target in one shot'

    • @hunterbowser667
      @hunterbowser667 Před 2 lety +124

      They specifically turn into red mist.

    • @SxfetyPin
      @SxfetyPin Před 2 lety +96

      Fun fact, the Kraber in TF|2 is chambered in .57 Cal. While the Kraber in Apex Legends is only chambered in .50 Cal.

    • @Tekisasubakani
      @Tekisasubakani Před 2 lety +24

      Anything that would be considered an Anti-Material Rifle is going to evaporate a living target.

    • @emPtysp4ce
      @emPtysp4ce Před 2 lety +65

      Shooting that at a human target is a war crime. So if anyone asks, just say you were aiming at something else.

    • @hunterbowser667
      @hunterbowser667 Před 2 lety +45

      @@emPtysp4ce sir I was aiming for the strap of the helmet

  • @TheParagade
    @TheParagade Před 2 lety +520

    One thing to note with some of the heavier weapon designs like the Spitfire and Kraber, is that they were designed for Titanfall where the pilots are in-universe super soldiers who are able to run around hip firing these things where normal people would absolutely not be able to.

    • @ariarimeowmeow
      @ariarimeowmeow Před 2 lety +29

      The Kraber is also based off the NTW-20 Anti Material Rifle

    • @tec2138
      @tec2138 Před 2 lety +20

      They are not super soldiers... well some are.
      They are only well trained in the sacred art of: "keep moving"

    • @diondegraaff9400
      @diondegraaff9400 Před 2 lety +58

      @@tec2138 and they have strong armor which probably has some sort of exoskeleton in it

    • @Mallchad
      @Mallchad Před 2 lety +17

      I actually vaugely remember that the Kraber is a modified Armour-Peircing / Anti-Material rifle
      that has gone out of its way to use exotic materials (among other things) to cut down the weight as much as
      possible for use by super-agile pilot supersoldiers.
      Like the Kraber is absolutely full of cutouts and empty space, presumably to save on weight.
      It's popular theory that pilots get nanomachines injected and genetic enhancement so they can take much more abuse
      and bear greater loads.
      Still. The Kraber is as long as you are tall.
      And this on in Apex is the 3rd iteration by now, Titanfall 1 guns looked far more closer to their
      traditional counterparts.

    • @SaladSneky
      @SaladSneky Před 2 lety

      @@diondegraaff9400 The Holopilots definitely have exoskeletons.

  • @WookieeGT
    @WookieeGT Před 2 lety +636

    For the Rampage, Consider that the thermite is increasing the pressure of the back pressure and increasing the cycling rate, in the video it seems they did not show you the non-Rev vs Revved versions of the fire rate. Increased heat/pressure, quicker gas action, more RPM

    • @chunkymonky4433
      @chunkymonky4433 Před 2 lety +177

      Realistically the Rampage could have been designed with a higher ROF if desired, but one thing many people forget is that the APEX games are in essence a bloodsport style gameshow presumably watched throughout all humanity controlled space, many of the guns are designed to be gimmicky (namely the rampage, bocek, 30-30 and the nerfed anti titan weapons) as they are used for entertainment purposes and are not 100% intended to be optimal infantry weapons.

    • @LeCatte
      @LeCatte Před 2 lety +52

      @@chunkymonky4433 Now that actually makes more sense...

    • @Kurokami112
      @Kurokami112 Před 2 lety +61

      @@chunkymonky4433 You also have to remember that the Rampage was designed by Rampart herself, so it being such a bombastic and wacky weapon makes sense just for that...

    • @the_cutter8485
      @the_cutter8485 Před 2 lety +34

      @@chunkymonky4433 this. It basically explains why you have military grade weapons like the charge rifle that annihilate titans 3 shotting legends.

    • @Sinra364
      @Sinra364 Před 2 lety +1

      @@chunkymonky4433 No they do use it in real life as the Titanfall is the outside version of Apex legends. In Titanfall people use all of these weapons

  • @AshyGr33n
    @AshyGr33n Před 2 lety +727

    Surprised that Jonathan didn't catch the "Mozambique Drill" reference to the gun - two to the chest, one to the head. Also Mozambique is probably somewhat based on the Metal Storm weapon concept.

    • @jonathanferguson1211
      @jonathanferguson1211 Před 2 lety +340

      Oh I caught the reference in the name, in fact I think I did mention that. I talk for 1-2hrs and they have to edit me down to 20mins :) However, full disclosure - I somehow didn't link the 2+1 shots to the actual drill - doh!

    • @pokeroots2
      @pokeroots2 Před 2 lety +90

      @@jonathanferguson1211 Man I wish that we could get some kind of access to the long form content that aren't cut down

    • @naokir.3649
      @naokir.3649 Před 2 lety +53

      @@jonathanferguson1211 These videos should be 40mins long minimum then lol i love them so much

    • @PsychoJackalFilms
      @PsychoJackalFilms Před 2 lety +35

      @@jonathanferguson1211 I'm gonna need these full 1-2 hour videos, sir.

    • @stevenbobbybills
      @stevenbobbybills Před 2 lety +11

      @@jonathanferguson1211 in addition to there being three barrels, they're also placed in a triangular arrangement, as if you could get two to the chest and one to the head by rapidly pulling the trigger without adjusting the position.

  • @roguevector1268
    @roguevector1268 Před 2 lety +1134

    Fun little thing; the Triple Take used to be known as the Double Take in Titanfall 2 with two bullets, but long range engagements had the problem of a perfectly aimed headshot resulting in two bullets whizzing by on either side of the pilots' ears, so they added an unanimated third bullet in beta-testing, then turned it into the triple take in Apex Legends :P

    • @enseleno
      @enseleno Před 2 lety +18

      Fun little thing? Yeah, I think you mean fun fact ;)

    • @Anonymys43
      @Anonymys43 Před 2 lety +37

      @@iamthebrownie5989 Not me

    • @zachblair3794
      @zachblair3794 Před 2 lety +35

      @@iamthebrownie5989 ok omniscient lord brownie, thanks for speaking for the entire universe

    • @Anonymys43
      @Anonymys43 Před 2 lety +1

      @@iamthebrownie5989 I have but never got into the lore

    • @mikem.s.1183
      @mikem.s.1183 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Anonymys43
      So...you really never played it for real.
      Most (all?) dedicated pilots know not only the lore but the Devs decisions.
      But it's understandable that casuals do not care or know the lore of Titanfall, Halo or Destiny, for sure.

  • @EndsVarietyClips
    @EndsVarietyClips Před 2 lety +57

    Funny thing about the wingman, it can take an extended "magazine" attachment, which I've always seen as strange given it's apparent resemblance to a revolver.

    • @jaydeedoan3022
      @jaydeedoan3022 Před 2 lety +2

      I've always thought that was weird too. My first time playing the game I laughed a good deal when I figured this out.

    • @georgebill9112
      @georgebill9112 Před rokem +1

      it’s apex legends, what part of that game is relatively realistic? none of it so why would you expect the guns to be realistic🤨🤨

    • @switchblade6
      @switchblade6 Před rokem +10

      ​@@georgebill9112 I mean the guns in functionality are generally somewhat grounded in reality so it's not too outlandish to expect the wingman to not have a mag

  • @veryepikhuman3958
    @veryepikhuman3958 Před 2 lety +39

    Fun fact: This is Jonathan Ferguson, the Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK, which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history.

  • @TiJoe6
    @TiJoe6 Před 2 lety +1671

    Nice. I want to see more interpretations of “realistic-ish” made up weapons. I still put my vote on the Killzone series.

    • @jacobinator4981
      @jacobinator4981 Před 2 lety +54

      What annoyed me this whole time is that most of these weapons are from Titanfall, but like every other youtube video, they just say it’s from Apex.

    • @blueboy1958
      @blueboy1958 Před 2 lety +97

      @@jacobinator4981 maybe cuz they're featuring the guns, specifically how they're shown in Apex, and not how they're shown in Titanfall.

    • @afd19850
      @afd19850 Před 2 lety +1

      2nd this!!!

    • @afd19850
      @afd19850 Před 2 lety +24

      @@jacobinator4981 TF2 needs its own entry tbh

    • @mayoactual2065
      @mayoactual2065 Před 2 lety +8

      @@blueboy1958 the designs are I’m pretty sure exactly the same other than the name so it’s still not different

  • @MythicMagus
    @MythicMagus Před 2 lety +374

    I like Respawn's approach to weapon design. They have a nice balance between making their guns look interesting and fun but they still appear functional.

    • @shizzywizzy6169
      @shizzywizzy6169 Před 2 lety +20

      And then you have the thermite rampage....

    • @blakestuart5036
      @blakestuart5036 Před 2 lety +8

      @@shizzywizzy6169 don’t forget the charged up sentinel, or the pk

    • @javianbrown8627
      @javianbrown8627 Před 2 lety

      Yeah but when they nerf or buff them they don't always change the design or animations to match

    • @marcusphoenix594
      @marcusphoenix594 Před 2 lety +4

      @@blakestuart5036 you dont want to go down the road of how a syringe/medipac heals robots

    • @blakestuart5036
      @blakestuart5036 Před 2 lety

      @@marcusphoenix594 oh no what’ve I done

  • @thedeltaagent6678
    @thedeltaagent6678 Před 2 lety +162

    I think it was a bit of a missed opportunity not to show the R-301 and Longbow alongside the R-99, if only briefly. I think he would have appreciate a sci-fi universe going with a fairly grounded concept of using different configuration kits of the same basic design, like people do with all kinds of takes on the AR-15 IRL.

    • @fatnfurious4370
      @fatnfurious4370 Před 2 lety +14

      also kinda missed the C.A.R and the Bocek with shatter caps, wouldve been really itneresting to know an opinion on the "hop up" tech that changes things about the gun, like boosted loader with the hemlok or kinetic feeder on the PK. Im also genuinely surprised they left out the 30-30 since it is one of the most "vintage" guns in the roster. Also, also, i wouldve been intrigued to hear the opinon on the Devo, cause it goes from pop pop to BRRRRRRRR

    • @roetemeteor
      @roetemeteor Před rokem

      You know, I think he'd actually did see it. He must have not fought the r-301 or Longbow were really worth noting, but then he saw the r99 and he realized that they were the same platform and then commented on it.

  • @TiernanWilkinson
    @TiernanWilkinson Před 2 lety +140

    I was glad to hear you pick up on the "family tree" of the arms in the Titanfall universe; I noticed it while playing Titanfall 2.
    The two standard assault rifles (the R101s), the DMR, and the R-97 sub gun all appear to have similar lineage of design with similarly canted mags and other design commonalities, which I found really interesting that the devs factored in. I know that for the original Titanfall, they tried to lend an aspect of realism to the mechs in the game by modeling some of their components off of existing heavy equipment and tank parts like the driver's hatch of the M1 Abrams, so it's cool to see that continue in TF|2 and Apex

    • @DankbeastPaul
      @DankbeastPaul Před 2 lety +12

      C.A.R. is also part of the same family

    • @toddoverholt4556
      @toddoverholt4556 Před 2 lety +5

      The original concept designs for the Titans were made from kitbashed models

    • @strwberryparfait
      @strwberryparfait Před rokem

      Unrelated but I never played titanfall 1 or 2 and seeing apex’s direct name callbacks is kinda fun

    • @roetemeteor
      @roetemeteor Před rokem

      It's funny you mention that, because they are the same weapons. The Longbow and the 99 are the DMR and PDW variants of the r-301.

  • @maxibillionromani2885
    @maxibillionromani2885 Před 2 lety +527

    Hey Johnathan! The family resemblance you mentioned in the video is true in more ways than one: the R-99 smg you compared to the hemlok is actually part of the R series, which contains a DMR, the SMG, and three assault rifles designated R-#01. Only one of the assault rifles appears in Apex, but it’s a cool detail on Respawn’s part to have a family of guns similar to all the AR-15 derivatives.

    • @jjtomecek1623
      @jjtomecek1623 Před 2 lety +60

      To add on to that, the Hemlok also has it's own family consisting of the Hemlok assault rifle, Volt SMG, and the Devotion LMG. I'm not sure if the last two are actually in Apex, but all 3 appear in Titanfall 2.

    • @Brian-tn4cd
      @Brian-tn4cd Před 2 lety +29

      @@jjtomecek1623 both appear in Apex yes

    • @GrumpyMann
      @GrumpyMann Před 2 lety +23

      An interesting note about the R99 is that (if I remember correctly) its chambered in 5.8 DAP which is the Chinese intermediate cartridge that the QBZ 95 and QBZ 191 are chambered in. So the in game smg is chambered in a real life assault rifle round. Someone can fact check me on that though, I may be wrong.

    • @maxibillionromani2885
      @maxibillionromani2885 Před 2 lety +27

      @@GrumpyMann According to the wiki, the R-97/99 does in fact fire 5.8, but intermediate caliber standards are apparently in the 8mm range by the time TF|2/Apex takes place, so it's an SMG by future standards. The fact that it fires 5.8 is quite interesting, as it implies China is or was incredibly influential (more so than today) at some point in the Titanfall timeline.

    • @Brian-tn4cd
      @Brian-tn4cd Před 2 lety +8

      @@GrumpyMann just checked with a lore nut the R-99 cartridge is 5.8×42mm so yeah Chinese round

  • @yhchann
    @yhchann Před 2 lety +187

    They should show him the C.A.R which somehow has variable ammo types (and can fit an extended heavy mag but use light ammo), and the extended heavy magazine on the wingman.

    • @ryleighs9575
      @ryleighs9575 Před 2 lety +24

      Yeah the C.A.R ammo thing stood out to me immediately lol. That's one place they really just gave up on logic for game mechanics.

    • @marciliojunior4919
      @marciliojunior4919 Před 2 lety +19

      Imagine jhonathans face when he sees the L-Star or Charge Rifle.

    • @sewagridmnds627
      @sewagridmnds627 Před 2 lety +4

      I mean, if they simply had made an animation where the player changes the whole upper upon changing ammo type, it would've made some sense.

    • @jonathanrivera8938
      @jonathanrivera8938 Před 2 lety

      @@sewagridmnds627 exactly so

    • @ThePikmin18
      @ThePikmin18 Před 2 lety +4

      I mean an AR can run 5.56 and .223 so it’s not too far removed from reality?

  • @SweetChiliBros
    @SweetChiliBros Před 2 lety +86

    That was awesome. Would love to see him react to more of the Apex Legends and Titanfall guns.
    Titanfall 2 has even more wacky ones.
    In the future if you do more of this you could show him how the Longbow, R99 and R-301 are all made of the same model with a different configuration.

    • @salemwxtchbxtch
      @salemwxtchbxtch Před 2 lety +1

      When I read wacky weapons I immediately though of the EPG-1, that gun was crazy

    • @bemusedmusician807
      @bemusedmusician807 Před 2 lety

      And the softball!

    • @rawrdino7046
      @rawrdino7046 Před 2 lety

      Wait they are all the same weapon? The longbow look so different

    • @AnoAssassin
      @AnoAssassin Před rokem

      @@rawrdino7046
      Look up "Titanfall 1 R-101", then "Titanfall 1 Longbow". You'll see the resemblance

    • @roetemeteor
      @roetemeteor Před rokem

      ​@@rawrdino7046 they are the same platform. It's the same way as the 15 and the 10 are both ArmaLite, and they're the same platform, but they're different and they serve different purposes.

  • @GRY2048
    @GRY2048 Před 2 lety +22

    From what i understand from early datamines, the rampage lmg was supposed to be able to give it's bullets the incendiary effect with a thermite. But then they removed it in favor for increased fire rate.

  • @AnonEMus-cp2mn
    @AnonEMus-cp2mn Před 2 lety +272

    I hope we get the chance to analyze Titanfall weapons, given that Apex is more of an artistic evolution of more grounded designs from the previous games.

    • @jonathanferguson1211
      @jonathanferguson1211 Před 2 lety +115

      I didn't realise that they were set in the same universe until halfway through filming, despite having played a fair bit of TF1 and 2.

    • @smalljh04
      @smalljh04 Před 2 lety +38

      @@jonathanferguson1211 It would be great to see an analysis of the Titan Weapons from the TF games, with their intersection of firearm and artillery, and it's always very interesting seeing different approaches to designing weapons for non-human users.

    • @deathwish-gg8wz
      @deathwish-gg8wz Před 2 lety +23

      @@jonathanferguson1211 *halfway through recording* "Hey wait I remember the Hemlock"

    • @bradhaines3142
      @bradhaines3142 Před 2 lety +7

      @@jonathanferguson1211 ever play borderlands? im curious what youd think of the game entirely about wild guns

    • @jonathanferguson1211
      @jonathanferguson1211 Před 2 lety +7

      @@bradhaines3142 I have put a few hours in - the respawning enemy camps sapped my soul but the co-op feature is nice and the guns are pretty unique.

  • @darkrogue98
    @darkrogue98 Před 2 lety +285

    I know Jonathan lurks the early comments. And I wanted to let him know his show makes my Saturdays. Thank you and going to donate to the Royal Armouries Museum.

  • @ganzoVEVO
    @ganzoVEVO Před 2 lety +28

    I'd love to see him look at more titanfall/apex guns, they're all so interestingly designed from both a visual and gameplay perspective and seeing Johnathon's takes on more abstract weapons is interesting

  • @xmannkiller
    @xmannkiller Před 2 lety +20

    Jonathan you are spot on with the AMR comparison on the Kraber, since this is used in the Titanfall universe as anti mech precision rifle.

  • @memoryfoam2285
    @memoryfoam2285 Před 2 lety +128

    There's quite a few rare reload animations, including one for the G7 where you put the magazine through the top of the gun, and when you're using an ability which requires a hand you chamber the Peacekeeper with the Arnie twirl.

    • @sonofagun1037
      @sonofagun1037 Před 2 lety +11

      but but but Bangalore said that was impossible, clips are what cities put in their hair remember, bullets cant be loaded from the top

    • @OperatorVanta
      @OperatorVanta Před 2 lety +1

      @@sonofagun1037 it's a clip-a-zine

  • @benjaminholcomb9478
    @benjaminholcomb9478 Před 2 lety +519

    I personally would have had him look at titanfall (2) weapons.
    Also, they should have showed him the weapons in the arsenal.
    I wish he could have given us his opinion on the flatlines original recoil pattern and the alternator as a whole.
    The one gun I think they did better on in apex is the triple take (in TF|2 it also shoots 3 rounds, but doesn'tsay it), and it's nice he got to see that.
    Overall, happy we got this much, but would love to see it revisited.

    • @unkn0wngu4rd1an
      @unkn0wngu4rd1an Před 2 lety +42

      In TF2 it's called the double take because it shoots two shots parallel not three (only two bullet trails and if you go for headshots you can actually miss both shots left and right of the head...) and they should have shown him the three versions of the carbine (101, 201, 301),would be interesting if he thinks that the evolution of the weapon is realistic...
      Also the devotion, volt and especially L-Star(TF2 version) wich are obviously energy based and have their own little gimmicks, and the sidewinder... I mean it's a rocket launcher LMG hybrid, and the anti titan weapons would be nice to have word on (and maybe even the weaponry of the titans themselves?)

    • @stonedperson97
      @stonedperson97 Před 2 lety +16

      Same, I think they should have gone with TF|2 instead. The flatline was always one of my favorite guns and I'm happy its in Apex but at the same time I'm disappointed it drifts so far from the original rifles recoil pattern.

    • @hamielhonel3200
      @hamielhonel3200 Před 2 lety +13

      Tf2 not as popular so not as many views, even if it is a better game :(

    • @figo3554
      @figo3554 Před 2 lety +2

      Yeah

    • @benjaminholcomb9478
      @benjaminholcomb9478 Před 2 lety +12

      @@unkn0wngu4rd1an if I remember correctly, it actually has a middle bullet in TF|2.
      The center one is just invisible.

  • @Oritaku1
    @Oritaku1 Před 2 lety +7

    Only Jonothan can turn Apex weapons into an educational piece that hundreds of thousands of peeps will watch from start to finish. Thank you Jonothan and Happy New Year good sir!

  • @danieldacanay8466
    @danieldacanay8466 Před 2 lety +22

    i wish he reacted to the charged sentinel, havoc rifle, car smg, and the other weapons that are very far from reality and lets see how he would ground it back to reality

  • @daviddavis1322
    @daviddavis1322 Před 2 lety +107

    Should have mentioned the Mozambique's pattern is two to the body, one to the head. A physical representation of the Mozambique drill!

    • @jonathanferguson1211
      @jonathanferguson1211 Před 2 lety +36

      I did wonder about that but didn't spot the effect in the footage I saw.

    • @RandomPerson0646
      @RandomPerson0646 Před 2 lety +2

      @@jonathanferguson1211 Didn't the Hemlock also kind of remind you of the Aliens Pulse Rifle?

    • @jonathanferguson1211
      @jonathanferguson1211 Před 2 lety +9

      @@RandomPerson0646 To be honest, not really other than in general proportions. There's no hint of Thompons or SPAS 12, and no overarching 'shroud' or large carry handle cue. It looks a bit like the version from Fireteam Elite in terms of the large magwell, but that came after Apex Legends of course.

    • @daviddavis1322
      @daviddavis1322 Před 2 lety

      @@jonathanferguson1211 You wondered correct. It's a triangle pattern. If you get one headshot you get two body shots.

    • @titan1umtitan
      @titan1umtitan Před 2 lety

      It would have been much more obvious if the Mozambique still had a 3 round ammo capacity like in the original Titanfall games

  • @Brian-tn4cd
    @Brian-tn4cd Před 2 lety +171

    So for the Energy ammo weapons, if im remembering my lore right most are just pretty much electromagnetic propelled flechettes/bullets and the charge up for the Peacekeeper/Triple take act as chokes. And while not seen here the R-99 and Hemlock have families of guns made by the same companies that share basically the same designs but more specialized the R-99 PDW has the C.A.R PDW, the R-301 assault rifle (there are previous iteration in past games, R-101 and R-201) and and D-101 "Longbow" DMR, and the Hemlock has the Devotion and Volt energy weapons made by the same company

    • @Treeink1
      @Treeink1 Před 2 lety +1

      Very interesting fact!

    • @masterhacker7065
      @masterhacker7065 Před 2 lety +5

      I believe the triple take at least is a mass driver/railgun type weapon as well

    • @scareraven9669
      @scareraven9669 Před 2 lety +3

      Hemlok is has the spitfire, not devo

    • @Oceb
      @Oceb Před 2 lety +2

      @@scareraven9669 Can't really throw the devo out of that since it and the volt are clearly related

  • @grantharriman284
    @grantharriman284 Před 2 lety +8

    I could see the bottom part of the wingman being attached to whatever mechanism holds the cylinder in the gun, so that would make sense as how you actually operate that mechanism, but not spring loaded or however it works in game.

  • @markedwarddavis9043
    @markedwarddavis9043 Před rokem +1

    The mozambique used to be a 3 shot gun, which explains the 3 shells. Respawn did not adjust the textures when they gave the gun more bullets

  • @pooopile
    @pooopile Před 2 lety +53

    Nice catch from Jonathan with the mozambique, the clip has 3 holes on it because the gun originally only held 3 shots until they buffed it. I guess they never changed the model

    • @smalljh04
      @smalljh04 Před 2 lety +10

      In the Titanfall games it looked basically the same but fired even more shots, so the design is intentional with this one. Although, the description in TF|2 does call it a spread-shot marksman pistol (I think), so maybe the Apex Mozambique is very separate from the other versions.

    • @mehmettekeli5706
      @mehmettekeli5706 Před 2 lety +10

      Or maybe because it is some kind of a battery. In the Titanfall wiki, Mozambique is called as an energy shotgun pistol, it just doesn't shoot blue like other energy weapons. If it is indeed an energy weapon like the wiki says, then the magazine being a battery makes sense. If not, then I don't know.

    • @ryleighs9575
      @ryleighs9575 Před 2 lety +3

      @@smalljh04 It fired three shots in Titanfall.

    • @Zanpaa
      @Zanpaa Před 2 lety +4

      The name is even a reference to the fact that it has 3 rounds. The "Mozambique drill" is shooting an assaillant twice in the chest and once in the head. (The buff to give it more rounds made the name a bit weird.)

    • @flashpone7910
      @flashpone7910 Před 2 lety +5

      @@ryleighs9575 The Mozambique has a 6 round magazine in Titanfall 2.

  • @daniellosset1973
    @daniellosset1973 Před 2 lety +58

    When Johnathan compares the hemlock to the r97 it’s some what right but the r 101, the longbow and the r97 where essentially the same weapon system which only requires simple adjustments to change the weapons

    • @error262
      @error262 Před 2 lety +18

      Ah I see a Titanfall player here :D
      It's R99 and R301 in Apex :P
      Titanfall 2 had R97 and R201 afaik

    • @titan1umtitan
      @titan1umtitan Před 2 lety +4

      @@error262 eh potato potato, they’re all mostly identical, especially between the R101 and R201, all I could notice are small and unimportant differences

    • @empdisaster10
      @empdisaster10 Před 2 lety +2

      @@titan1umtitan I do kinda like how the games do that and there are in game varients and different guns in the same series kinda like irl how you have different AKs or ARs. I also enjoy that by changing the name and subtle qualities to them the guns kinda feel like newer versions of them since the R101 originates in the first titanfall, then you have the R201 showing up in Titanfall 2 and finally the R301 in Apex and the G2 becomes the G7, or the R97 turns into the R99

    • @titan1umtitan
      @titan1umtitan Před 2 lety +5

      @@empdisaster10 Yes, I absolutely love that it goes so far as to use guns to effectively build a world and establish and reinforce a connective timeline between the games. For instance, the changes in Titan cores implies that over the course of the war, Titan’s became manufactured for specific jobs rather than being an average frame that fits multiple jobs. I can imagine a Titan only warfront that consists of a vanguard of Ronins for Titan combat, a Middle Guard of Legions, and a Rear Guard of Northstars, with a possibility of a separate, anti air unit consisting of Tones, and an infantry extermination unit consisting of Scorches, and a close quarters recon unit consisting of Monarchs, which would have made Expedition units obsolete in favor of Monarch’s adaptability

  • @ElusiveJT
    @ElusiveJT Před 2 lety

    Love the concept of this video. Something satisfying about seeing experts demonstrate their expertise on unorthodox topics

  • @aswedishvampire7293
    @aswedishvampire7293 Před 2 lety

    I have been commenting asking for this since the first video I saw you do in this series. Thank you!!! 🖤

  • @Super-Kuper
    @Super-Kuper Před 2 lety +35

    I always thought the Hemlock was a blend of SCAR and and HK G36c

    • @jonathanferguson1211
      @jonathanferguson1211 Před 2 lety +20

      I try to look at specific design cues rather than just silhouette, as there are always multiple possible inspirations for the latter e.g. CZ Bren 2, B&T AP556, ACR etc. Then again devs will be working from both, so more views are valid than just mine :)

  • @lukart300
    @lukart300 Před 2 lety +20

    Wouldn't it be nice to see Jonathan covering the weapons from Gears of War series?

  • @Zaqster
    @Zaqster Před 2 lety

    I was waiting for this! Thanks for finally making a video out of Apex Legends, my favourite team shooter battle royale type of thing.

  • @RayearthIX
    @RayearthIX Před 2 lety

    Love this series. Great to get this sort of feedback and see his thoughts.

  • @kylianvanhoorn2859
    @kylianvanhoorn2859 Před 2 lety +13

    Would live to see Jonathan react to wolfenstein

  • @ymehaverkamp4384
    @ymehaverkamp4384 Před 2 lety +8

    I've been waiting for this for so long

  • @tinou3462
    @tinou3462 Před 2 lety +14

    Looking at him react to Apex's guns really makes me wanna see what he would think of Destiny 2's exotic weapons. Amazing and entertaining video as always, keep it up :D

  • @himmelektronik
    @himmelektronik Před 2 lety

    YES I’ve waited so long for this, thank you so much Jonathan. Haven’t even seen it yet but I can already tell it’s gonna be a blast

  • @Chasmodius
    @Chasmodius Před 2 lety +34

    I can see using a revolver-type design if want a pistol and your cartridge is too large to fit into a handle. Or maybe if the cylinder itself contains the propellant or other propulsion mechanism, and is manufactured as disposable?

  • @KingMuttley
    @KingMuttley Před 2 lety +25

    Dave and Jonathan, thank you so much for this impeccable series, as well as Loadout too which I'm really enjoying.

  • @notyouraveragejohn69
    @notyouraveragejohn69 Před 2 lety

    when the expert talks about specific parts of the gun, in game or otherwise, it would be awesome if the item in question could be highlighted or circled as some of us may not know what the expert is referring to without it being pointed out.
    Great video, great expert, thank you!

  • @txt5220
    @txt5220 Před 2 lety

    Finally! You don't know how long I've been waiting for this! Thx Jonathan!

  • @vvinkomaddy2038
    @vvinkomaddy2038 Před 2 lety +4

    YEAHHHHH I WAITED THIS FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE SERIES PLEASE DO ANOTHER ONE

  • @kafkabigmon
    @kafkabigmon Před 2 lety +31

    It would be PRIME if we could get a live stream of Jonathan playing something himself

    • @ineedscissors6176
      @ineedscissors6176 Před 2 lety +5

      in a perfect world jonathan would play and stream games regularly to watch

  • @anthonypuleo4657
    @anthonypuleo4657 Před 2 lety +2

    yall should johnathan look at the guns in Fistful of Frags, its a smaller and less known game but there are many guns I havent seen in any other game that are pretty well modeled in my opinion

  • @leaderofthepenguins
    @leaderofthepenguins Před 2 lety +3

    I was just looking for this video when I discorveres this series yesterday. I would love to see this and Titanfall 2 revisited with the information about how some weapons are made by the same companies or are based off each other. I'd really love to see what you think about the progression from R101 to R201 to R301, as well as the Havoc and Alternator weapons.

  • @joseviera8801
    @joseviera8801 Před 2 lety +14

    as for the wingman, it used to have up to 12 magazine and also its ammo had a multiplier for headshots meaning they kinda thought of what you said in the vid, but then again, it was too OP and they nerfed it

  • @flashuser777
    @flashuser777 Před 2 lety +30

    Ooh finally some weapons with little real world inspiration! I would love to see borderlands 2 weapons and Jonathan react to the massive impossibilities in that game.

    • @ineedscissors6176
      @ineedscissors6176 Před 2 lety +2

      I def second him doing one of these for the borderland series in general

  • @brodygray744
    @brodygray744 Před 2 lety

    I love this series and I love Apex. Before I even saw the video I knew Jonathan was going to laugh at "Revving Up" your Rampage. I was hoping to see his reaction to the Sentinel as well, but that just means I get to look out for part 2 down the line.

  • @becomeanastronaut6232
    @becomeanastronaut6232 Před 2 lety +9

    Love love LOVE the series. You guys should get Jonathan to look at some guns from Deep Rock Galactic (my favourite co-op shooter). There's some wacky stuff in there, like a smart rifle and hand-held salvo rocket launcher. But there's also an M1 Garand-alike, complete with p'ting noise! It's a good time

  • @stas7378
    @stas7378 Před 2 lety +10

    A little detail I noticed, the g2 appears to have the same triggerguard safety as the M14.

  • @Vanq17
    @Vanq17 Před 2 lety +24

    Revolvers are just the katanas of guns.
    They're usually immensely powerful in games
    They're heavily romanticized in media
    They rely on simple mechanics
    They're only really popular due to how they're depicted in media

    • @patrickhector
      @patrickhector Před 2 lety +12

      bullet go round make monke happy

    • @bradhaines3142
      @bradhaines3142 Před 2 lety

      and because of their history

    • @1lovesoni
      @1lovesoni Před 2 lety +3

      They're both a hold-over from an earlier age where handmade craftsmanship was more common.
      Though for revolvers their design does still allow for more powerful cartridges than most autoloaders (.44 mag, .454 casull, .500 mag, etc...) which gives them some niche applications even in modern day.

    • @bradhaines3142
      @bradhaines3142 Před 2 lety

      @@1lovesoni .357 magnum is another one not common outside of rifles or revolvers

    • @1lovesoni
      @1lovesoni Před 2 lety +2

      @@bradhaines3142 I avoided that one because inevitably someone will want to argue about .357sig being "similar enough".
      (Of course there ARE also some rare and impractical. 357mag and .44mag autoloading pistols in existence (Coonan, Desert Eagle, Wildey/Automag) but they tend to be massive, expensive, impractical, and usually have questionable reliability, especially when compared to a revolver using the same round)

  • @chribu5454
    @chribu5454 Před 2 lety

    Fun video concept. Thanks for covering Apex!

  • @SkeletonSSBM
    @SkeletonSSBM Před 2 lety +1

    Johnathan was such a great pick for the series. He knows a lot about guns, and I like his sarcasm and jokes

  • @EleCticCOokie
    @EleCticCOokie Před 2 lety +21

    This dude practically runs the channel at this point

    • @jonathanferguson1211
      @jonathanferguson1211 Před 2 lety +20

      Dave and the team produce and edit the series, I just turn up and waffle in front of a camera for an hour :)

    • @EleCticCOokie
      @EleCticCOokie Před 2 lety +1

      @@jonathanferguson1211 the legend himself

    • @afnanali1503
      @afnanali1503 Před 2 lety +1

      @@jonathanferguson1211 ayy its the guy itself

    • @blobefishe
      @blobefishe Před 2 lety

      @@jonathanferguson1211 yoooo its the guy from the show i thought you were an random person

    • @jonathanferguson1211
      @jonathanferguson1211 Před 2 lety

      @@blobefishe Why not both?

  • @ThisFinalHandle
    @ThisFinalHandle Před 2 lety +28

    Because of Jonathan, Ian and Brassey's I'm getting pretty good at identifying the contemporary design cues in SciFi game guns.

  • @ufcfan1985
    @ufcfan1985 Před 2 lety

    2022 seems more approachable now. The return of Johnathon is a welcome thing!

  • @deadsoldiertr
    @deadsoldiertr Před 2 lety +2

    In the Rampage lmg when we inspect we can see a empty barrel. Bullet comes from right goes to left but when we stuck a thermite in it, bullets go through the thermite and heat up. This increases the damage and rate of fire. I can understand damage but rate of fire is a little bit sus

  • @Alekontilt120
    @Alekontilt120 Před 2 lety +11

    One thing that always bugged me about the flatline was how the charging handle would be smacking into your jaw if shot while ads.

  • @wazkangz955
    @wazkangz955 Před 2 lety +28

    I would’ve thought that the R301 would’ve been shown here as it looks the most “realistic” ar albeit with a weird mag well.

    • @jonathanferguson1211
      @jonathanferguson1211 Před 2 lety +34

      We did cover it in the recording session. Perhaps there's a part 2 coming...

    • @wazkangz955
      @wazkangz955 Před 2 lety +4

      @@jonathanferguson1211 Ah, ok. Thanks for the behind the scenes info. May the emotional support StG 44 be close at hand for future videos.

    • @tardigrade2244
      @tardigrade2244 Před 2 lety +4

      @Jonathan Ferguson thank you, Jonathan, for providing excellent content and analysis as usual! Will you guys cover all the rest of the weapons on part 2? Also, the R99, in my opinion, looks like a distant descendant of the love child from a Vector and UMP.

    • @jonathanferguson1211
      @jonathanferguson1211 Před 2 lety +3

      @@tardigrade2244 Quite possible that they referenced those two designs, yes. Ironically it comes off as a less unusual take on the Vector. As for part 2, I'm not sure what Dave has planned but suspect there will be.

    • @jonathanferguson1211
      @jonathanferguson1211 Před 2 lety +1

      @@wazkangz955 It shall be :)

  • @Koolaidboyy
    @Koolaidboyy Před 2 lety

    I never would have known about the lastimosa reference on the g7 were it not for this video, that’s a really cool detail!

  • @ZekeAxel
    @ZekeAxel Před 2 lety

    Been waiting on this one!

  • @oscarjacobsen7518
    @oscarjacobsen7518 Před 2 lety +6

    i would love to see jonathan talk about the titan weapons in titanfall

  • @LordDarthHarry
    @LordDarthHarry Před 2 lety +27

    Planetside 2 has a nice selection of weapons. Ranging from rather conventional through peculiar split cylinder revolvers, oversized shotguns and high tech crossbows to railguns and micro-rocket launchers and pew pew lasers.

    • @Gatorade69
      @Gatorade69 Před 2 lety

      Do people still play Planetside 2 ? I loved the first game.

    • @LordDarthHarry
      @LordDarthHarry Před 2 lety +1

      @@Gatorade69 Oh absolutely. Last I checked they were far along with a new continent.

    • @AwesomeRace7
      @AwesomeRace7 Před 2 lety

      @@Gatorade69 yes they have a mining system

  • @jtplays7411
    @jtplays7411 Před 2 lety

    That en-bloc pistol is reminiscent of the hailstorm system. Multiple caseless rounds are stacked up in a line and the propellant is set off for each projectile in series through electronic ignition.

  • @Quinten_exe
    @Quinten_exe Před 2 lety

    Yes! I've been waiting for this!

  • @DivingHawker
    @DivingHawker Před 2 lety +30

    I would love to see him react to some of Warframe's weapons, especially the more conventional looking ones like the Braton, Burston, Latron, Lex, Lato, Redeemer and things like that.

    • @Rhynerd
      @Rhynerd Před 2 lety +9

      I'd also love to see him take a look at Warframe's conventional weapons, but I'd have to admit that I'm also curious about his thoughts on the unconventional as well. Maybe after he's done with the ones you suggested he could take a look at stuff like the Arca Plasmor, Boltor, Phage, Sybaris, and Zenith.

    • @Alpha.Phenix
      @Alpha.Phenix Před 2 lety +4

      Show him the Veltd and make him ponder how DE fit that many bullets in such a tiny magazine.
      I still haven't found the answer, I need help.

    • @DivingHawker
      @DivingHawker Před 2 lety +2

      @@Alpha.Phenix Look at the Latron, Prime's reload, it's literally just venting air.

    • @Alpha.Phenix
      @Alpha.Phenix Před 2 lety +3

      @@DivingHawker Venting air is still more plausible then whatever the Veldt is doing.

  • @kadebass6187
    @kadebass6187 Před 2 lety +12

    The propellant and case (still has a regular bullet) in titanfall lore and should be the same for apex. Is they’re all batteries which should also mean the guns are rail guns not traditional rifles. There is exceptions for certain weapons like energy weapons; they use energy ammo which would imply just a big battery

    • @weakestbutterscotchenjoyer
      @weakestbutterscotchenjoyer Před 2 lety +1

      Also, the bullets are electronically activated.

    • @cataposs
      @cataposs Před 2 lety

      there's a wattson voiceline when you ping an extended energy magazine attachment where she says "Like a capacitor, I get that", so yeah it's probably like a battery

  • @Desaxion
    @Desaxion Před 2 lety

    THANK YOU! HAVE BEEN WANTING THIS FOREVER

  • @xx_gamer_xx8315
    @xx_gamer_xx8315 Před 2 lety +1

    I was really hoping that he would cover the sentry. That gun has the fun quirk of not having a feasable way for the ammunition to travel from the magazine to the chamber.

  • @titaniumwo1f390
    @titaniumwo1f390 Před 2 lety +4

    I'm disappoint that GS didn't show him a rare reload animation of G7 Scout, which reloads like M1 Garand.

  • @sibidinakaran4757
    @sibidinakaran4757 Před 2 lety +21

    16:28 for reference the gun initially has 3 shots when the game released but at some point over the last year it was changed to 6 for balancing purposes. Obviously the animations stayed the same.

    • @smalljh04
      @smalljh04 Před 2 lety +5

      The Mozambique is one of the weapons that came from Titanfall 2, and it could hold 6-8 rounds. It fires out of all 3 barrels simultaneously, to give it a controlled spread.

    • @titan1umtitan
      @titan1umtitan Před 2 lety +1

      @@smalljh04 Did it really? I used to remember playing a lot of Coli back in the day and I didn’t think it had 6 rounds

    • @smalljh04
      @smalljh04 Před 2 lety

      @@titan1umtitan It started off as a secondary where it only had 4 (6 w/ extended mag?) rounds, but then got buffed and turned into a primary.

    • @titan1umtitan
      @titan1umtitan Před 2 lety +1

      @@smalljh04 I see, yeah, the mag count in my mind was off by one, no wonder I was so confused

  • @soofah
    @soofah Před 2 lety +1

    I was waiting for this for long time

  • @lf1514
    @lf1514 Před 2 lety

    for the energy based weapons like the 3 barreled rifle the triple take the magazine is basically a big battery. the lever action shotgun is also an energy based weapon.

  • @julianames9861
    @julianames9861 Před 2 lety +4

    Great stuff, need a part 2 with some more of the energy guns and snipers!

  • @OneKaleidoscope3812
    @OneKaleidoscope3812 Před 2 lety +25

    i was sitting here thinking you were going to review guns that didn’t exist lol. but i get it, you explain what type of firearms these video game guns are based on.

  • @Vheneu
    @Vheneu Před 2 lety

    17:49 in the titanfall universe the peacekeeper is a crude energy rail gun and the lever is used to "charge-up" the barrel for the next shot.

  • @wmboity
    @wmboity Před 2 lety

    I like how much he liked the triple take, its a really cool concept and such a fun gun

  • @nere3318
    @nere3318 Před 2 lety +6

    You should do fist full of frags, I'd like to see more pre ww1 weapons from the armoury

  • @bl4ckdr4gontv93
    @bl4ckdr4gontv93 Před 2 lety +8

    The VK47 is a Reference to the 2013 Movie ''Elysium'' where a AK47 was fitted with Future tech to shoot Airburst-Explosive Bullets. The Future Furniture on the VK looks identical to the one from the movie, but to make it not so obvious the made the AK bullpup!

    • @jonathanferguson1211
      @jonathanferguson1211 Před 2 lety +5

      I can buy that it's a reference of sorts, but I don't see much of a resemblance. The Elysium AK (which I always liked the idea of) has its upgrade package (electronic fusing/electro-optical sighting) as a unitary assembly attached to the gas block of an otherwise unmodified AKM. The furniture is unchanged. The VK47 is a total redesign across the board with completely different receiver architecture and componentry i.e. is not a future upgrade of an AK. It may be, in the minds of the devs, but it doesn't work as one conceptually/design-wise.

  • @skylarsorell9212
    @skylarsorell9212 Před 2 lety

    With the Rampage, during the inspect animation you can see 2 rods coming together where the thermite grenade would go. This, I believe, is the barrel, or I guess barrels. When you put in a thermite, the barrels separate to then come back together either against or straight through the grenade. How this makes it shoot faster is still a mystery, but that detail is just pretty neat to me

  • @StyxDescension
    @StyxDescension Před 2 lety +2

    Was really hoping to see him react to the Havoc, Devotion or L-Star just for their unique designs

  • @Phuckboy
    @Phuckboy Před 2 lety +22

    I'd love to see his take on some of the more bizarre weapons in Black Ops 3 and Black Ops 4. They got some pretty whacky stuff, mainly as DLC but it may not be so easy to get footage

    • @mortemor6663
      @mortemor6663 Před 2 lety

      They can easily get their hands on the dlc stuff with the console

  • @joeydabroey
    @joeydabroey Před 2 lety +3

    I’ve been waiting on this one for a long time!

  • @chalkisplacebo.6697
    @chalkisplacebo.6697 Před 2 lety

    what's cool about the Mozambique is that it's meant to be a nod to the Mozambique Drill where you shoot twice in the upper body of a target and once in the name hence the shape of the bullet mag and spread

  • @Shidera5721
    @Shidera5721 Před 2 lety

    I really would like to see Jonathan taking another look at EFT, with a focus on all of the different types of malfunctions and clearing procedures there are now (and maybe a look at the two new guns, the HK G28 and FN SCAR)

  • @WingMaster562
    @WingMaster562 Před 2 lety +4

    Kinda wish they allowed Jonathan to view the weapon model and rotate it, instead of just showing it used in-round/shooting range with the player model.
    Sidenote, i like the Filipino aethetic armory emblem which is the Latimosa armory. It was that way because the modeller is a Filipino

    • @Gatorade69
      @Gatorade69 Před 2 lety

      I have only played TF|2 but Isn't Lastimosa the guy who dies and gives Cooper BT ? Is the armory just named after him or does his character come from a family of Gunsmiths ? I really want to go back and play TF2 now.

  • @eldiabloblancolacasablanca6540

    Keep putting out 🔥🔥🔥videos

  • @Jo-ys3qx
    @Jo-ys3qx Před 2 lety +1

    I hope he takes a look at other weapons from the titanfall universe, like the titan weapons and the weapons in the 2 titanfall games that arent in apex. I also love that he noticed the ammunition bar on the sights.

  • @Radian333
    @Radian333 Před 2 lety

    I'd love to see Jonathan take a look at the near future mish-mash guns in DirtyBomb! I think he'd appreciate both the setting and the inspirations for the firearms in that game

  • @Hexyvexy
    @Hexyvexy Před 2 lety +3

    Awh, no Havoc, Alternator, L-STAR or Mastiff. Guess all but the Havoc are in Titanfall...

  • @sunvieightmaster88
    @sunvieightmaster88 Před 2 lety +9

    This is a nice series, Gamespot.

  • @SpaceMissile
    @SpaceMissile Před rokem

    5:16 - I never really noticed the ammo bar on the hemlock's sights. that is a very cool feature.

  • @Smurf5738
    @Smurf5738 Před 2 lety

    The one that looks like the scar at 4:45 looks like the large mag well doubles up as a forgrip

  • @abluee291
    @abluee291 Před 2 lety +7

    i would really like to see what Johnathan has to say about the guns in Verdun and any of the more recent Wolfenstein games.

    • @ineedscissors6176
      @ineedscissors6176 Před 2 lety

      is Verdun any good? I see it on sale on xbox store all the time (I'm on a series s) and always have thought it looks pretty cool.

    • @abluee291
      @abluee291 Před 2 lety

      @@ineedscissors6176 if you like more realistic shooters and have some interest in ww1 i think you would enjoy it. but since i play it on pc im not sure how well that the mechanics would translate to controller.

  • @hanz6652
    @hanz6652 Před 2 lety +11

    Can we see Jonathan's take on guns from Metal Gear Solid V? Very much appreciate it, Gamespot. As always love the contents. Keep it going!

  • @blendermonkai2965
    @blendermonkai2965 Před 2 lety

    Yoooo! I requested this a few weeks ago and im sure more people did too. Thanks for making this :D

  • @itsdamoss
    @itsdamoss Před 2 lety

    To explain the Mozambique having 3 shells despite firing more than 3 it’s just a factor of the gun was updated to fire more for balance but originally fired 3(also did in titanfall 2)