Firearms Expert Reacts to Helldivers 2's Guns PART 2

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  • čas přidán 22. 05. 2024
  • Jonathan Ferguson, a weapons expert and Keeper of Firearms & Artillery at the Royal Armouries, breaks down more of the weaponry of Helldivers 2, including the SG-225 Breaker, the Railgun Stratagem (in safe and unsafe mode), and even digs a real-world counterpart to the Autocannon from the Royal Armouries collection.
    00:00 - Opening
    00:40 - P-4 Senator Pistol
    02:17 - Stalwart Stratagem
    03:35 - Adjustable Rates of Fire
    04:37 - Autocannon Stratagem
    08:19 - Autocannon Sentry Stratagem
    09:00 - SG-225 Breaker Shotgun
    09:48 - SG-225IE Breaker Incendiary Shotgun
    10:50 - LAS-5 Scythe Energy-Based Weapon
    11:54 - Railcannon Stratagem
    13:02 - Break-Action Shotgun
    14:13 - JAR-5 Dominator Explosive Weapon
    15:49 - P-2 Peacemaker
    16:38 - Arc Thrower Stratagem
    17:26 - Mortar Sentry Stratagem
    18:31 - ICBM Missile
    In the latest video in the Firearm Expert Reacts series, Jonathan Ferguson--a weapons expert and Keeper of Firearms & Artillery at the Royal Armouries--breaks down more of the guns of Helldivers 2 and compares them to their potential real-life counterparts.
    Firearms Expert Reacts playlist - • Firearms Expert Reacts...
    If you're interested in seeing more of Jonathan's work, you can check out more from the Royal Armouries right here. - / royalarmouries
    If you would like to support the Royal Armouries, you can make a charitable donation to the museum here. - royalarmouries.org/support-us...
    And if you would like to become a member of the Royal Armouries, you can get a membership here. - royalarmouries.org/support-us...
    You can either purchase Jonathan's book here. - www.headstamppublishing.com/b...
    Or at the Royal Armouries shop here. - shop.royalarmouries.org/colle...
    You can subscribe to the Armax Journal that Jonathan Associate Edited here: www.armaxjournal.org/
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  • @johnjohn5187
    @johnjohn5187 Před 2 měsíci +5075

    “Is he a robot, or is that a robot arm?”
    “He’s a veteran.”
    Smiles in Democracy.

    • @thecrabmaestro564
      @thecrabmaestro564 Před 2 měsíci +79

      *robit

    • @johnjohn5187
      @johnjohn5187 Před 2 měsíci +55

      @@thecrabmaestro564oi, eyeuh got somethin' ya won ta say, moite?

    • @droidBasher
      @droidBasher Před 2 měsíci +94

      Of course he's not a cyborg. He's too democratic to be a cyborg.

    • @dwrdwlsn5
      @dwrdwlsn5 Před 2 měsíci +28

      @@droidBasherYeah, lets not let the Democracy Officer hear any of that. Won't end well.

    • @IrregularDave
      @IrregularDave Před 2 měsíci +67

      Helldiving made me the man I am today!

  • @weresquirrel
    @weresquirrel Před 2 měsíci +3156

    A funny thing in regards to the front loading mortar; One of the ship upgrades is "Zero-G Breech loading: Replaces the current method of loading cannons - manual shell insertion down the front of the barrel - with rear loading, which is much faster."

    • @Drakith90
      @Drakith90 Před 2 měsíci +710

      When I read that upgrade I laughed for hours. Cause with how expendable soldiers are in the setting I imagined Space Powder Monkeys running along the hull of the ship every time I called in an orbital barrage..

    • @nicolaspeigne1429
      @nicolaspeigne1429 Před 2 měsíci +104

      It's for the orbital cannons though

    • @inquisitorbenediktanders3142
      @inquisitorbenediktanders3142 Před 2 měsíci +325

      ​@@Drakith90 And people joked that to reload they had someone in a spacesuit on the outside loading them like old cannons.

    • @LeHarmacist
      @LeHarmacist Před 2 měsíci +290

      @@Drakith90apparently, the armor or suit that the helldivers are wearing have the same materials as with your super destroyer. I don’t know the validity of this claim for it is secondhand information.
      Fun fact though, one of the ship upgrades(I reckon it’s the first engineering bay upgrade) has you give stimulants like ampethamines to your crew to reduce certain stratagem cooldowns iirc.

    • @Winasaurus
      @Winasaurus Před 2 měsíci +201

      @@Drakith90 Similar to the Hangar upgrade that allows them to reload "mid-spaceflight". How exactly support crew are affixing 500kg bombs to Eagles in spaceflight is a worrying thought.

  • @DaveQZ85
    @DaveQZ85 Před 2 měsíci +1454

    For the amount of environmentally interactive details they put into the game, that the capes don't billow violently as the nuke shockwave passes seems like a glaring miss.

    • @Insan1tyW0lf
      @Insan1tyW0lf Před 2 měsíci +223

      Def needs to get patched in.

    • @kowalskee360
      @kowalskee360 Před 2 měsíci +119

      That's exactly what I was about to comment. The effect is incredible, but feels so fake when it hits the cape and nothing. Needs patching for sure

    • @IoFoxdale
      @IoFoxdale Před 2 měsíci +291

      That's because the capes of Super Earth's finest are unflappable. Mere nuclear winds can't shake our soldiers resolve.

    • @kowalskee360
      @kowalskee360 Před 2 měsíci +78

      @@IoFoxdale I forgot that. It all makes sense now

    • @pills-
      @pills- Před 2 měsíci +86

      Don't worry. Capes only billow when they need to. Like when standing on the bridge of your super destroyer! FOR DEMOCRACY!

  • @DavidMarcus1525
    @DavidMarcus1525 Před 2 měsíci +2333

    "I'm doing my part"

  • @MangeViggo
    @MangeViggo Před 2 měsíci +1332

    Finally, our Autocannon will be analyzed! :D Been looking forward to this! /A HD2 dev

    • @crestfallenneet2167
      @crestfallenneet2167 Před 2 měsíci +121

      It's definitely satisfying to fire. Only gripe I have is that assisted reloads can be temperamental, gotten stuck in assisted reload state or just animations in weird ways that required a respawn to fix.
      Still, very satisfying weapon to use, both in handheld and turret forms.

    • @wisecrack3461
      @wisecrack3461 Před 2 měsíci +29

      Love your team! Keep up the good work :D

    • @LeonJohnson-yi3hg
      @LeonJohnson-yi3hg Před 2 měsíci +2

      🫡

    • @jonathanferguson1211
      @jonathanferguson1211 Před 2 měsíci +78

      It's very cool!

    • @IrregularDave
      @IrregularDave Před 2 měsíci +61

      Congrats on your success! I've loved my time with the game, these episodes have been a blast to make.

  • @IrregularDave
    @IrregularDave Před 2 měsíci +558

    It has been an honour and privilege to bring you these episodes, fellow Helldivers!
    Many bugs and bots met their end to record the gmeplay, and many more will fall!

    • @SmolGawblin
      @SmolGawblin Před 2 měsíci +16

      we want more helldivers... Please?

    • @IrregularDave
      @IrregularDave Před 2 měsíci +24

      ​@@SmolGawblinmaybe when there are more weapons added we shall revisit!

    • @weirdeurasianboy8091
      @weirdeurasianboy8091 Před 2 měsíci

      A

    • @The7guys
      @The7guys Před 2 měsíci +3

      Please show us your 40k mini collection

    • @IrregularDave
      @IrregularDave Před 2 měsíci +7

      @@The7guys a lot of them are in storage at the moment, but I post the new ones I paint on my Twitter and Instagram 🫡

  • @JunkyardBashSteve
    @JunkyardBashSteve Před 2 měsíci +778

    casually pulling out a Pedersen rifle like it's nothing and then dropping that they have TWO

    • @jonathanferguson1211
      @jonathanferguson1211 Před 2 měsíci +274

      We have three :D - all British trials Vickers-Pedersens.

    • @IrregularDave
      @IrregularDave Před 2 měsíci +64

      JF loves to flex the collection. And for good reason!

    • @antiluckermd1956
      @antiluckermd1956 Před 2 měsíci +22

      ​@@IrregularDave JFtkofaaatramitUKwhacotoiffth is the correct short term

    • @JunkyardBashSteve
      @JunkyardBashSteve Před 2 měsíci +12

      @@jonathanferguson1211 oh then I guess you wouldn't miss just one right? My birthday is coming up soon so maybe...

  • @BusbyBiscuits
    @BusbyBiscuits Před 2 měsíci +1293

    That giggle after Jonathan whips out that SR-9 thing is priceless.

    • @eTiMaGo
      @eTiMaGo Před 2 měsíci +68

      sign of a man who truly loves what he's doing :D

    • @halolong5461
      @halolong5461 Před 2 měsíci +42

      It's that "I knew this will come in handy one day" type of giggle

    • @MrJJ86
      @MrJJ86 Před 2 měsíci +10

      I thank him for doing it. He has so many unique weapons at his museum.

  • @SekritJay
    @SekritJay Před 2 měsíci +893

    I genuinely thought John was being wistful about not having a nuclear missile ready to show

    • @knusern666
      @knusern666 Před 2 měsíci +67

      He has one, I'm sure of it

    • @bulldowozer5858
      @bulldowozer5858 Před 2 měsíci +88

      His emotional support mini-nuke

    • @NeoTechni
      @NeoTechni Před 2 měsíci +66

      You just know he has a Davey Crockett hidden away for emergencies

    • @pnutz_2
      @pnutz_2 Před 2 měsíci +12

      polaris is at imperial war museum so can understand his pain

    • @BarneyDesmond
      @BarneyDesmond Před 2 měsíci +3

      He *is* wistful.

  • @kolper6799
    @kolper6799 Před 2 měsíci +446

    "One of out two, (because we greedy) maxim machinegun prototypes...". Jonathan might be locomitive of Gamespot but in hearts he still is british museum worker.

    • @jonathanferguson1211
      @jonathanferguson1211 Před 2 měsíci +102

      We have two out of the three that survive.

    • @heinzaballoo3278
      @heinzaballoo3278 Před 2 měsíci +3

      ​@@jonathanferguson1211 That is quite devious. But what happened to the third?

    • @manuelschurig2266
      @manuelschurig2266 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@heinzaballoo3278probably in another museum

    • @jonathanferguson1211
      @jonathanferguson1211 Před 2 měsíci

      The third is in the US Marine Corps Museum collection.@@heinzaballoo3278

  • @chthulu27
    @chthulu27 Před 2 měsíci +500

    To be fair: a lightning strike _could_ make bugs explode. The radical increase in heat coupled with a chitin exoskeleton (assuming it's chitin or a similar material) _could_ conceivably cause the same sort of intense pressure increase that makes trees explode during a lightning strike.

    • @nebulonian1385
      @nebulonian1385 Před 2 měsíci +113

      Also, they are used as an easy fuel source. I'm not familiar with the details, but they do seem to just have pretty volatile insides, which would definitely have spectacular interactions with lightning.

    • @derekp2674
      @derekp2674 Před 2 měsíci +35

      Also the magnetic forces generated by currents flowing over an exoskeleton will tend to compress the exoskeleton. The same effect is used as the basis of z-pinch nuclear fusion experiments.

    • @chthulu27
      @chthulu27 Před 2 měsíci +4

      @derekp2674 , fusion? I'm curious as I've not heard a lot about it. Last I heard we finally had the first successful positive-yield reaction and then the excitement seemed to die off a bit.

    • @DjDolHaus86
      @DjDolHaus86 Před 2 měsíci +22

      Two possible outcomes. Either it instantly boils a large quantity of the water contained within the bug leading to an explosion or the shell acts like a faraday cage and directs the energy around the outside to ground

    • @jonathanguitard984
      @jonathanguitard984 Před 2 měsíci +8

      Simple headcanon for lore purposes. The goop inside these liberty hating bugs is a poor conductor of the fuel of democracy. It boils into high pressure steam almost instantly when a current passes through it.

  • @HerraHidalgo
    @HerraHidalgo Před 2 měsíci +159

    If you want to see a nuclear weapon in a museum, the Swedish War museum in Stockholm has one. Right next to stone-age axeheads.
    A very powerful exhibit.

  • @Malacite
    @Malacite Před 2 měsíci +186

    "It's a rule in our group that you have to salute as the missile detonates."
    You sir, are a true patriot and I commend your dedication to democracy.

    • @vahyg5508
      @vahyg5508 Před 2 měsíci +3

      🫡

    • @johnpmchappell
      @johnpmchappell Před 2 měsíci +2

      Been a rule in our group, since day one, too. Along with standing and saluting the flag on that mission.

    • @karhu7581
      @karhu7581 Před měsícem

      I dish out hugs instead. Nothing like embracing while a nuke goes off

    • @drunk_famasmf5135
      @drunk_famasmf5135 Před měsícem

      Shame there is no mod (yet) to play the chorus or pre-chorus of "When Heavens divide" (or "Nuclear") when nuke detonates
      Democracy may be eternal, but heaven is not helldivers' kind of place anyway

  • @Apollo_1641
    @Apollo_1641 Před 2 měsíci +919

    An autoloading mortar that uses an arm to "drop" shells down the tube isn't as outlandish as you'd think.
    The swedish "Mjølner" and South Korean Wia 120mm both use a system like this.

    • @abysswatcher9172
      @abysswatcher9172 Před 2 měsíci +28

      Really? I wonder what the practical reason for that is.

    • @SnazBrigade
      @SnazBrigade Před 2 měsíci +91

      well mjolner's like SEMI autoloading lol, there are still swedes pushing the rounds up rails, than they mechanically kinda tip into the magazine

    • @welshdragon3187
      @welshdragon3187 Před 2 měsíci +16

      That’s exactly what I was going to comment good on you for betting me to it 👍

    • @chugachuga9242
      @chugachuga9242 Před 2 měsíci +12

      @@abysswatcher9172I’m pretty sure it uses normal mortar rounds which might mean they have to be loaded from the top and not from a belt like with what Johnathon suggested on how you would do an automatic mortar.

    • @VodkamanBR
      @VodkamanBR Před 2 měsíci

      Those mortar shells each weights about 15kg, nearly 35 pounds, you don't want a tired soldier to accidentally drop one and arm it.@@abysswatcher9172

  • @sp1ky58
    @sp1ky58 Před 2 měsíci +236

    I find it really funny that Ferguson is basically just a video game gun reviewer at this point. He's done SO MANY

    • @jonathanferguson1211
      @jonathanferguson1211 Před 2 měsíci +138

      I still do my day job :D

    • @blightspreadergames1110
      @blightspreadergames1110 Před 2 měsíci +16

      Almost singlehandedly keeping the Gamespot channel alive!

    • @56bturn
      @56bturn Před 2 měsíci +2

      It's such a thing it got lampshaded in his video on Forgotten Weapons. Just check the thumbnail.

    • @Chasmodius
      @Chasmodius Před 2 měsíci +6

      It's also _excellent_ PR / advertisement for the Royal Armouries Museum (in Leeds!). Which is, I believe, also a part of the job description of most curatorial staff at museums.

    • @jstar3382
      @jstar3382 Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@@jonathanferguson1211lmao glad to see you. You're easily the best part of this channel

  • @joaoie
    @joaoie Před 2 měsíci +62

    I love how casually Jonathan mentions where we can check a museum's nuke

  • @jameslars7391
    @jameslars7391 Před 2 měsíci +135

    one thing that I have noticed is that if you use an action mid reload that prevents you from using the charging handle the gun won't actually be considered reloaded until you give it a second to do that animation.

    • @p0wer1337
      @p0wer1337 Před 2 měsíci +29

      Only if you run completely out of ammo from the mag. If you do a tactical reload with 1 in the chamber, it skips that animation.
      The same can be seen on the pump shotties. With none in the mag tube, you do an emergency reload + rack then reload the rest conventionally. If theres still 1 in the chamber you just reload conventionally

    • @guts-141
      @guts-141 Před 2 měsíci +15

      Happened to me so many times because I kept diving around evading dangers
      Trying to shoot and realizing the bolt isn't pulled back yet was kinda cool and clumsy like it jammed for a second

    • @Dreznin
      @Dreznin Před 2 měsíci +7

      @@p0wer1337 Not only is that faster, but it's a cool detail - you skip pulling the charging handle is because you didn't clear the barrel and still have a round chambered. It's such a little detail that so many games ignore, but makes Helldivers even more immersive.

    • @Thelothuo
      @Thelothuo Před 2 měsíci +9

      It's noticeable in small arms, but very obvious in platforms with longer multi-step reloads like the Recoilless Rifle, whose reload can be interrupted at three points between opening the breech, ejecting a casing, loading a casing, and closing the breech.

    • @robertharris6092
      @robertharris6092 Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@@Dreznin its a dstail that every COD and BF game has had for decades.

  • @davidcsimon
    @davidcsimon Před 2 měsíci +57

    Lightning tends to superheat and fluids inside a target, causing them to rapidly expand and effectively explode. A tree near my home was hit by lightning and the superheated sap sent splinters as big as my arm flying across our garden. I imagine bugs would react similarly.

    • @derekp2674
      @derekp2674 Před 2 měsíci +10

      The same principle is also used in electrothermal (ET) and electrothermal chemical (ETC) guns but we don't often see them in sci-fi games.

    • @gratuitouslurking8610
      @gratuitouslurking8610 Před 25 dny

      The terminids in Helldiver lore are also farmed for their blood, under the codename of Element 710. Having such a volatile inside probably does not help matters.

  • @sirjazz5776
    @sirjazz5776 Před 2 měsíci +160

    Concerning the Sentinels, I came to the conclusion that it was not an AI per turret built in... but in fact, the command post from our Destroyers, as we sent the sentinels, who take control of the turrets deployed and blast all ennemies on the ship's radar sight. Which would explain as well why they don't make much difference between allies and foes, as they could only be dots on a screen.

    • @a1ter120
      @a1ter120 Před 2 měsíci +7

      Pretty sure that’s a simple problem solvable by using iff

    • @jameslars7391
      @jameslars7391 Před 2 měsíci +53

      @@a1ter120 but at the same time Helldivers are expendable and are used as such why put money and time to build an IFF system when you can just recruit more Helldivers.

    • @Dostoron
      @Dostoron Před 2 měsíci +4

      ​@@jameslars7391
      What does it cost to make four dots green?

    • @honignoname98
      @honignoname98 Před 2 měsíci +37

      @@Dostoron Everything

    • @crestfallenneet2167
      @crestfallenneet2167 Před 2 měsíci +27

      They couldn't even afford to put simple remote or even timed arming electronics into the hellbombs. I'm almost positive that touch screen and related hardware costs more to install per unit than conventional remote/automatic firing hardware

  • @flakby3085
    @flakby3085 Před 2 měsíci +274

    About selectable fire rate. The new MG5 also has like 3, I think, selectable speeds.

    • @marcellosilva9286
      @marcellosilva9286 Před 2 měsíci +40

      Does it have fuller auto?

    • @Feldflasche
      @Feldflasche Před 2 měsíci +19

      and all 3 of them are lower than the MG3s, which it replaces in the german army for no good reason

    • @Quickdrawingartist
      @Quickdrawingartist Před 2 měsíci +18

      ​@@marcellosilva9286What about "fullest auto"?

    • @captainmilano5279
      @captainmilano5279 Před 2 měsíci +45

      ​@@Feldflasche it conserves ammo, it can fit modern scopes, it's shorter (better handling), it's more ergonomic for fire on the move or standing.
      Don't get me wrong, i love the MG3 aswell, but saying that the MG5 has no upsides is just blatantly wrong

    • @Speedy2619
      @Speedy2619 Před 2 měsíci +14

      ​@@Feldflasche weight, ammo conservation thats the reasons formally.

  • @Pocahonkers
    @Pocahonkers Před 2 měsíci +49

    About the mortar, it might sound and look silly but this is actually how some more modern autloading mortars function.
    The swedish Granatkastarpansarbandvagn (which is probably the coolest name for a mortar carrier) has a system where a robotic arm contraption carries the grenade from a replenished magazine under armor outside to drop it into the muzzle of the mortar.
    It's really neat, the crazy kind of tank only sweden could fever dream up after inhaling too many Surströmming vapours.

    • @ShogunMongol
      @ShogunMongol Před měsícem +1

      South Korea has something similar as well, the KSM120 Skyfall, and there's a video of one of these systems being demonstrated detached from the vehicle it goes to that looks nearly identical to the Helldiver mortar. South Korea probably got to that idea from too many kimchi fumes.

  • @yoshiboy777
    @yoshiboy777 Před 2 měsíci +198

    The GPMG (L7A2) you can rotate the gas block to 'balance' the gun as it were, changing its rate of fire. Beautiful bit of kit

    • @Nugire
      @Nugire Před 2 měsíci +3

      GPMG is short for general purpose machine gun, so I have no idea what gun you are talking about.

    • @Braiam
      @Braiam Před 2 měsíci +15

      @@NugireEdited to say L7A2 or FN MAG

    • @AnonEMus-cp2mn
      @AnonEMus-cp2mn Před 2 měsíci +3

      I’ve heard us ‘yanks’ say the same with the M249 (FN Minimi) and the M240 (FN Mag).

    • @jonathanferguson1211
      @jonathanferguson1211 Před 2 měsíci +21

      Yes, you can vary rate of fire with any adjustable gas block, but that's not the purpose of it. I was thinking of selectable fire rates independent of gas setting (or in the absence of an adjustable block).

    • @mikafor
      @mikafor Před 2 měsíci +4

      @@jonathanferguson1211Only thing I can even think of that's anywhere near that would be the G11, but still not exactly in the ballpark. German space wizards, man.

  • @launchalot8745
    @launchalot8745 Před 2 měsíci +14

    As a Swedish company, Arrowhead seems to have taken quite a few design cues from Swedish weaponry of today. The EAT and the recoilless rifle are the most obvious examples, but there are several others aswell. The mortar sentry is basically just an automated, scaled-down version of the recently introduced mortar system in the Swedish Army.

    • @PurplePunchini
      @PurplePunchini Před měsícem +4

      Yes, the lead designer and more on the team was Swedish military and has used CGs themselves. There is a video where the creators play the game with a youtuber and talk about it. Just as Jonathan notices and mentions in this in the last video, the recoiless rifle is based on Carl Gustaf and the autocanon friend reload is based on the Bofors canons.

  • @DivingHawker
    @DivingHawker Před 2 měsíci +85

    4:26 You can adjust the gas block to effectively change the rate of fire, even though it's usually meant to deal with dirtier conditions

    • @Nugire
      @Nugire Před 2 měsíci +4

      The Negev has 3, normal and high for belts like you said and a low setting for using magazines.
      They learned from the M249 that mags need a lower gas pressure/slower cycling

    • @jonathanferguson1211
      @jonathanferguson1211 Před 2 měsíci +8

      Yes, not quite what I was thinking of :)

    • @SL4PSH0CK
      @SL4PSH0CK Před 2 měsíci +1

      Yea cool rules of engagement high RPM is the "surrounded" switch

    • @Mindpron
      @Mindpron Před 2 měsíci +1

      Generally, adjustable gas toggles are meant to deal with muzzle attachments, such as suppressors, compensators, and other attachments that could change the barrel pressure.
      Running a suppressor would increase the barrel pressure, causing blowback. Which can seize the action as unburned powder is forced into the action. So you shrink the aperture to reduce the amount of gas that can pass through the gas tube.

    • @jonathanferguson1211
      @jonathanferguson1211 Před 2 měsíci +4

      That's a recent development. Adjustable gas blocks are traditionally to allow proper setup of a machine gun and then continued reliable function in adverse conditions and/or when fouled. The same is true for service rifles, most of which were either never designed for a suppressor or never used with one. @@Mindpron

  • @cinnamonshiva
    @cinnamonshiva Před 2 měsíci +29

    This has been the most fun and well thought out bunch of fictional guns i've seen in a game in a really long time. Always a pleasure to see Jonathan's take on these!

  • @g80gzt
    @g80gzt Před 2 měsíci +15

    11:21
    It does actually, cold planets reduce rate of fire (so your MG shoots slower RPM) but also reduces heat buildup.

  • @tetsatou2815
    @tetsatou2815 Před 2 měsíci +24

    The Dominator's gyrojet rounds are a dual stage. Uses the massive cartridge to give it a jump out the barrel, and then you see the jet fire up a short distance out the barrel.

    • @NXTangl
      @NXTangl Před 2 měsíci +6

      In short: literally a bolter.

  • @wimpie031
    @wimpie031 Před 2 měsíci +38

    7:05 loved that giggle. I knew it was going to be special right away 😂

  • @Svoorhout85
    @Svoorhout85 Před 2 měsíci +23

    Saluting when the missile launches sounds great, but my group already has the rule that we give eachother a hug before boarding the Pelican no matter what.

  • @JonathanMartinez-ei4up
    @JonathanMartinez-ei4up Před 2 měsíci +23

    The new set of weapons that’s coming out for Helldivers II includes a Pump Action-Shotgun style Lightning weapon, so I’m looking forward to the episode of you guys reviewing that. I’m wondering if they’ll eventually give players the mini Atomic Grenades (or a variant of them) from Starship Troopers, since this series does pay a lot of homage to that series.I can’t imagine that they wont also eventually give us their take on a Pulse Rifle too, since its so iconic.

  • @TheFrogEnjoyer
    @TheFrogEnjoyer Před 2 měsíci +40

    I hope this series never ends

  • @PitFriend1
    @PitFriend1 Před 2 měsíci +14

    The real advantage a revolver would still have in the future would be ease of handling large cartridges without more moving parts like a slide or bolt for a magazine fed handgun. It also has the all important looks cool factor.

  • @Mr.deacle
    @Mr.deacle Před 2 měsíci +26

    Regarding variable fire-rate machine guns, the Israeli IWI Negev light machine gun technically has an adjustable fire rate. A lot of other guns do to but it's not exactly the intended use of an adjustable gas system, including this one.
    Position 1 on the Negev is for feeding from box magazines at 700 to 850 rpm. Position 2 will create the same fire rate when using a belt. Belts add drag to the system; I think using this setting on a magazine would make it shoot bit faster but would probably be unreliable. Position 3 is for belts under adverse conditions, gun all gunked up with powder residue and sand and debris. But on a clean gun, with the gas system opened all the way up to third position, you can reach up to 1000 rpm.

    • @jacobs6771
      @jacobs6771 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Almost every machine gun today has an adjustable gas system making them fire faster or slower. It’s weird that a supposed weapons historian of his magnitude doesn’t know that.

    • @Mr.deacle
      @Mr.deacle Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@jacobs6771 He probably does know that but just hadn't considered it to be an intended feature of adjustable gas systems. When he talks about historical examples he references a deliberate design choice to give those weapons variable fire rates, and that's almost never the case in modern arms design. I only reference the Negev because I've heard stories of people using the gas system to change the fire rate, but that's not really how you're supposed to treat the gun.

  • @eyriewow4297
    @eyriewow4297 Před 2 měsíci +36

    The Pz Mg 87 on the Swiss Leopard 2 can switch between 500 and 1000 rpm.

  • @mavvh1054
    @mavvh1054 Před 2 měsíci +10

    I don't know if its just me, but a massive toggle lock going right next to my head would make me EXTREMELY disconcerted.

    • @acethedisgrace4479
      @acethedisgrace4479 Před měsícem +1

      It probably helps to be wearing a futuristic space helmet.

  • @AnonEMus-cp2mn
    @AnonEMus-cp2mn Před 2 měsíci +10

    A few vets who worked with the M249 mentioned that you could adjust the gas regulator to change the rate of fire, but the function is often to over-gas the system for reliability when it starts to slow down from heavy use.

  • @o.m.5269
    @o.m.5269 Před 2 měsíci +15

    The Mortar Sentry, might take inspiration from atleast partially, how the Mjölner, CV90 Mounted Mortar System, reloads

  • @keeganwilliams8046
    @keeganwilliams8046 Před 2 měsíci +16

    Something I Learned from Zach Hazard, you can adjust the timing on M2 Browning MG and its .30 cal counterpart, making it fire “faster” but also increases the chance of an out of battery detonation

  • @2ndToLast501
    @2ndToLast501 Před 2 měsíci +4

    This man is an absolute treasure, his knowledge and being able to balance how it works with video games is absolutely amazing. Never stop educating people about firearms!

  • @ThouReaper2.0
    @ThouReaper2.0 Před 2 měsíci +26

    I never knew what the B.A.R is classified as but it has 2 different full auto modes. Full auto and fuller auto

    • @robertharris6092
      @robertharris6092 Před 2 měsíci +5

      Its an automatic rifle. Browning designed it with the intent that you use it like a rifle thats automatic. Basicly the predecesor to the battle rifle. The US pushed it into a SAW (squad automatic weapon) role that it wasnt remotly ideal for.

    • @oldesertguy9616
      @oldesertguy9616 Před 2 měsíci +2

      That's the weapon that immediately sprang to mind when he mentioned variable full-auto rates of fire.

  • @Insan1tyW0lf
    @Insan1tyW0lf Před 2 měsíci +17

    16:51 Made with lightning - REAL LIGHTNING!

  • @Svoorhout85
    @Svoorhout85 Před 2 měsíci +26

    Im pretty sure that the cybernetic prosthetic armor is a reference to warhammer 40k's Tyrannic War Veterans. Who are essentially space marines with many Tyranid battles under their belt. They have very similair looking prosthetic limbs. But the main reason why I think this is because the cape and background card of the first set is called Tyrant Hunter.

  • @KrassaMister22
    @KrassaMister22 Před 2 měsíci +7

    The Swiss army rifle Stgw90/SIG550 can change the firerate between 600RPM and 900RPM. But it is more used in case the gun is not feeding properly because of dirt or extrem cold

  • @doodleboi4744
    @doodleboi4744 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Thank you for doing a part 2. The Breaker is my favorite gun in the game, and I was sad to see you didn't cover it last time.

  • @Kage6415
    @Kage6415 Před 2 měsíci +6

    Actually, I just had a thought about the fire version of the breaker. What if it's actually projecting some form of thermite pellets that remain vacuum-sealed until it gets fired out the barrel, igniting when finally exposed to oxygen?

  • @delvint9966
    @delvint9966 Před 2 měsíci +22

    on the 249 i think the older models still have it you can adjust the gas regulator and it increases rpm from like...750 to 1000? or something close to that if I am remebering right? Though they got rid of it with some newer ones i believe because it could also make it be under gassed and not work..or you could overgass it and break it.

    • @TheThunderkaos
      @TheThunderkaos Před 2 měsíci +5

      The Negev LMG it has a gas regulator too and if i can remember y has a lower rpm for mag fed ammo and to high rpm for belt fed ammo

  • @BlazingImp77151
    @BlazingImp77151 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Since i havent seen it mentioned in the comments or the video, something interesting of note is the fact that some of the devs were actually conscripts for the swedish army, and they also are reaching out to people who have experience with firearms.

  • @GaldirEonai
    @GaldirEonai Před 2 měsíci +12

    Doing the Praise The Sun pose at a nuclear explosion is next-generation memery.

  • @HQ_Default
    @HQ_Default Před 2 měsíci +5

    I'd be interested in seeing Jonathan talk about some of the weapons of the Quake series.
    For Quake 1 I really just want to see him speculate on how the nailgun would work (I can't imagine he'd have much to say about the other guns except "yup that's a shotgun"), but from Quake 2 onwards the weapons start to take more design cues from real guns, and I think it'd be interesting to hear his thoughts on some of them.

  • @oleglegenchuk6615
    @oleglegenchuk6615 Před 2 měsíci +3

    More! WE NEED MORE!!! Please do part 3)))

  • @LumiVerseHQ
    @LumiVerseHQ Před 2 měsíci +2

    Solid breakdown of Helldivers 2's weapons, makes you appreciate the detail!!

  • @meanmanturbo
    @meanmanturbo Před 2 měsíci +2

    4:34 yeah, Swedish ksp-58/FN-MAG have alot of possitions on the gas regulator. That is primarily for letting more gas through if the gun is fouled up, but it also de facto lets you alter rate of fire quite alot.

  • @maggyyolokraut1941
    @maggyyolokraut1941 Před 2 měsíci +4

    17:45 the Piranha V would disagree
    it actual has that kind of lording system on its mortar module
    so not unrealistic at all.

  • @LordAnubisGaming
    @LordAnubisGaming Před 2 měsíci +6

    If y'all do Ghost Recon: Future Soldier in a future vid you can slow down or increase the RPM of most of the weapons. I guess the idea was/is higher RPMs can provide better cover fire, apply more rounds down range, and give your opponent pause for thought. That said I never do that unless I'm messing around and firehosing a corridor. I prefer to slow down most of my rifles to improve accuracy and handling.

  • @sircdrom
    @sircdrom Před 2 měsíci +1

    Loved it! Some of the cooler weapons shown in Part 2 here

  • @Sam-jt4rl
    @Sam-jt4rl Před 2 měsíci +1

    Amazing. I was using the Autocanon yesterday and wondered what ol Jonny boy would think of it. Cheer's, brother!

  • @CJRodgers
    @CJRodgers Před 2 měsíci +4

    The lightning gun (arc thrower) is probably making bugs explode because the bugs are engineered to produce space fuel used to run FTL engines.

  • @themarvelouschester3587
    @themarvelouschester3587 Před 2 měsíci +10

    This video goes well with a cup of LIBER-TEA!

  • @tenou213
    @tenou213 Před měsícem

    This guy is a such a pro! Perfect tracking and explanation of all the features and design elements.

  • @Ghelasin
    @Ghelasin Před 2 měsíci +2

    On the subject of the over-the-shoulder autocannon, Barret actually made an over-the-shoulder .50 BMG rifle meant for engaging helicopters and other light airborne targets, the M82A2, the idea is to move much of the weight behind you so that you can hold and aim it properly while standing, which is very much necessary if you plan to shoot things above you. It was never actually adopted though.

  • @AgeOldCure
    @AgeOldCure Před 2 měsíci +4

    Lets not forget the really cool feature where bouncing rounds can and will hit your teammates. I am being sarcastic, but it is a cool feature that i appreciate, even when it gets me killed.

  • @greymangaming1877
    @greymangaming1877 Před 2 měsíci +12

    [Comment is under investigation for treason]

  • @yvesgingras1475
    @yvesgingras1475 Před 2 měsíci +1

    more please! cant wait for part 3!

  • @derekp2674
    @derekp2674 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Thanks Dave, Jonathan and team. Some nice sci-fi guns there.
    Obviously I enjoyed seeing the railgun. I see its projectiles leave a visible trail behind them. That is a nice touch because such trails were actually seen (caused by air ionisation?) in the pioneering 1970s work with the ANU Canberra railgun, when hypervelocity projectiles were fired in air.
    I enjoyed the lightning gun too, but I think those are more a case of sci-fi magic.

  • @miles8385
    @miles8385 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Just once I'd like to see a game which accurately portrays the sound of a nuclear detonation, and the delay between being able to see the explosion and being able to hear it (at survivable ranges, that is)

    • @crestfallenneet2167
      @crestfallenneet2167 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Yeah unfortunately you kinda gotta design the sound engine with proper sound travel in mind. On paper/pseudocode it's fairly simple though, if the sound emitter is x game units away from player, delay sound playback by x amount of time based on distance, and then also whatever sound modulation/effects you wanna add based on distance as well.

    • @miles8385
      @miles8385 Před 2 měsíci +4

      @@crestfallenneet2167 For a special event like a nuke going off they could just "cheat" by having the sound delayed by a set amount of time, since the nuke is aimed beyond the playable game area anyway. That way there's no need to actually have the game calculate the sound delay.

  • @asfdasdful
    @asfdasdful Před 2 měsíci +3

    Been waiting

    • @Ivy64_
      @Ivy64_ Před 2 měsíci

      "I've been waiting for this!"

  • @user-sw6ww1oj6k
    @user-sw6ww1oj6k Před 2 měsíci +1

    14:43 The JAR-5 is basically a bolter. As that's what a bolter is, a jet propelled large caliber rifle. Usually with explosive rounds, but not always.

  • @thou_dog
    @thou_dog Před 2 měsíci +2

    There are modern automatic muzzle-loading mortars, and they do use a mechanical arm to load. They're a little different than this, though, with the rounds being fed into a vertical stack by a crew from below.

  • @mistertililing5933
    @mistertililing5933 Před 2 měsíci +10

    The revolver 1:00 is based off the Mateba2006M which has a similar cylinder rotation when reloading. Saw it also in the Ghost In The Shell series.

  • @marcellosilva9286
    @marcellosilva9286 Před 2 měsíci +4

    +1 week pushing for a E.Y.E. Divine Cybermancy, Darkwatch or Resistance episode.

    • @KudoRedfox
      @KudoRedfox Před 2 měsíci +1

      The guns in Resistance will be a field trip

  • @AcinonyxFoxD1
    @AcinonyxFoxD1 Před 2 měsíci +1

    The USAF Museum in Dayton Ohio has a ICBM Gallery incase any of you are interested in visiting. I went there and it was both amazing and terrifying to stand at ground level next to previously active ICBMS

  • @valkoharja
    @valkoharja Před 2 měsíci

    Another excellent video. Thank you.

  • @HIT14MAN2
    @HIT14MAN2 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Jonathan should look at the guns of SAO Fatal Bullet and COD Advanced Warfare

  • @Rakschas666
    @Rakschas666 Před 2 měsíci +2

    The Jar-5 Dominator reminds me a lot of the Inkunzi PAW. Patlabor aesthetics future knick angles, round mag, delayed fuse rounds, all that good stuff.

  • @soccermaniac2819
    @soccermaniac2819 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Loved the take on these guns. Good to see an expert's reaction/opinion with real world examples. Not all game guns are realistic, but they don't need to be, they just need to be plausible and fun for the player, but still good to see the adaptation from a real world design that was made with certain intent or to solve a particular issue like heat or feed system.
    Loved the SR-9, never seen one of those before. Really cool design and reload system. Looks too heavy for a 1 man use.

  • @MrManDudeReviews
    @MrManDudeReviews Před 2 měsíci

    If i ever travel to the UK, ill be going to that museum. Had no idea that the inception of the machine gun had the "rapid fire" and "more rapid fire" modes. Very cool.

  • @katanavx0331
    @katanavx0331 Před 2 měsíci +1

    The giggle when bringing out the bullpup 50 caliber rifle (or whatever category it is), hahahahahaha! Never change, Mr. Ferguson!

  • @CaersethVarax
    @CaersethVarax Před 2 měsíci +1

    Literally everything about that shoulder mounted, crew served, toggle autocannon excites me.

  • @dsphotographyedinburgh4973
    @dsphotographyedinburgh4973 Před 2 měsíci +1

    There's actually a few autoloading mortar systems out there, they are usually vehicle mounted and basically exist for firing very very quick volleys and then scooting off to safety.

    • @viggopilblad
      @viggopilblad Před 2 měsíci

      the swedish grkpbv 90 for example

  • @NXTangl
    @NXTangl Před 2 měsíci

    IIUC, variable-charge breech loading autoloaders not only exist, but are often outfitted with targeting software that allows them to send multiple rounds downrange starting with a very high trajectory and ending with a flatter one such that all rounds land on target at the same time for maximum impact and psychological damage.

  • @batcat4136
    @batcat4136 Před měsícem

    Not something you covered but I appreciate that for all the one handed guns they have added one-banded reload animations, frequently with your character putting the gun on his chest, then inserting the magazine, like with the SMG or with the revolver he opens and empties with one hand, then puts it on his chest again with the cylinder open and inserts the rounds before flicking it closed again. We’ve come a long way from just waving the gun around offscreen and suddenly it has bullets again

  • @illidan814
    @illidan814 Před 2 měsíci +1

    There are top loader mortars in modern arms with similar system like the mortar sentry. The CV-90 with Mortar got similar loading system with difference that the ammunition is prepared by crew inside of the vehicle and its twin barrel.

  • @Xaevryn
    @Xaevryn Před 2 měsíci +1

    FINALLY! I've been waiting for this one!

  • @morenozainoplays
    @morenozainoplays Před 2 měsíci +1

    While you can't change the fire rate manually I believe the HAMR IAR can automatically increase its fire rate the longer it is fired and the more heat it builds up. Love the series, as per usual!

    • @callsignapollo_
      @callsignapollo_ Před 2 měsíci

      The HAMR tansitions from closed to open bolt firing after a certain period of time. Closed bolt at first gives better single shot accuracy, and the continuous open bolt reduces chances of cookoff or out of battery detonations

  • @brockreynolds2405
    @brockreynolds2405 Před 2 měsíci

    240 Bravo and many designs of the FAL come to mind and weapons with adjustable gas regulators that were designed to allow you to feed more gas to bypass fouling. Many grunts also found that adding gas to a clean machine gun also would increase the rate of fire. Most manuals on the 240B list the rate of fire as between 600-900 RPM.

  • @HYpr1337time
    @HYpr1337time Před 2 měsíci

    4:30 M249 SAW.
    variable firerate is usually found in guns made to work in subzero temps, where fluids inside the rifle contract, thus needing more energy to be moved around properly.

  • @WhoLongDragon
    @WhoLongDragon Před 2 měsíci +1

    Another “variable” rate of fire gun that comes to mind is the BAR with its slow and fast automatic settings

  • @kronosestarfinder9574
    @kronosestarfinder9574 Před 2 měsíci +2

    for the auto cannon it always reminded me at least in function as that shoulder mounted Barret .50 America was messing with in I believe the 80s or 90s that was intended to act as a anti helicopter weapon. sadly I don't remember what its name was.

  • @lukeman9851
    @lukeman9851 Před 2 měsíci

    The right-hand ejection on the LMG looks pretty realistic since you can see the cases coming out behind the belt box, suggesting something like a KelTec RDB with a very long bolt travel inside

  • @TheGrace020
    @TheGrace020 Před 2 měsíci

    Wow i was just like perhaps Jonathan is in a new epic video hopefully about Helldivers again and here we are 😻

  • @TexasToast712
    @TexasToast712 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I knew he would get a kick out of the Autocannon. My favorite weapon. Togglelock firearms are so cool.

  • @the_chrisgamer9934
    @the_chrisgamer9934 Před 2 měsíci

    An addition to the point about changing rpm of machine guns. An example of an in service lmg with this feature is the German mg5.

  • @tonykriss1594
    @tonykriss1594 Před 2 měsíci

    17:44 There is auto loaded mortar system like this IRL. It's a vehicle mounted weapon and such mechanism make it possible to encase it in a turret without adding a breach at the rear end.
    Also it means you can have a higher caliber tube without breach loading.

  • @CrazyxCactus
    @CrazyxCactus Před 2 měsíci

    The Autocanon reminds me of a Mauser stripper clip with a Luger style ejection of the rounds. I like that Luger feeling animation with each round when it's ejected.

  • @FirstMetalHamster
    @FirstMetalHamster Před měsícem

    The german HK121 (MG5) has a selector for 3 different rates of fire, mainly due to it being a gas operated gun and the more you fire the more it gets gunked up with soot. So if you experience rate of fire inconsistencies, drops or even failures you can switch to a higher rate of fire and (hopefully) keep firing.

  • @ianwinter514
    @ianwinter514 Před 2 měsíci

    the negev machine gun has basically a firerate change to facillitate the magazine feed without malfunctions and in the earliest mg34 there was a highly customizable firerate changer integrated

  • @LMFAO712
    @LMFAO712 Před 2 měsíci

    4:30 For the part where he is talking about the adjustible rate off fire for an lmg, the current MG4 and MG5 in the german military have it. The Purpose for it is more that if zou have jams in the gun you can increase the gas pressure (raise the rpm) so the feeding of the round gets better.

  • @TuShan18
    @TuShan18 Před 2 měsíci

    Mr. Ferguson looked like he was really enjoying himself in this one. Especially the autocannon section when he got to show off the SR9.

  • @MrLocain
    @MrLocain Před 2 měsíci +1

    the chuckle at 07:04 made me smile :D

  • @greybuckleton
    @greybuckleton Před měsícem

    Yes you do have a bolter on a model, a bolt pistol to be specific. Good to see pedigree in the team.