Carinthia Defence 4 and Defence 6 sleeping bag tests in -20 degrees
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DEFENCE 4
3-SEASON SLEEPING BAG
The Defense 4 comes from the military sector and is one of the best-selling 3-season sleeping bags in its class. It is characterized by the center zipper and an extremely robust and waterproof outer material. The zippered cover flap protects against wind and moisture and the integrated zipper warming strip additionally prevents heat loss. The outer shell is a super-light, highly resistant, microfibre nylon with a fine microporous coating which makes it water-repellent. There is a generous draft tube on the inside of the zipper to prevent heat loss at the zipper.
DEFENCE 6
This high-performance winter sleeping bag is designed for uncompromising warmth retention in arctic conditions. It has a triple-layer sandwich construction with a loose-fitting Shellproof shell which guarantees optimum warmth. It has a generous zipper baffle on the inside of the zipper to prevent any heat loss. In addition it has a protection flap on the outside to keep out wind and wetness.
At CARINTHIA, we have been pursuing a common goal every day for decades: the permanent, innovative and performance oriented further development of insulated clothing and equipment - from professionals for professionals.
As a global market leader, service orientation, entrepreneurial spirit and innovative strength are the focus of our activities.
The highest quality standards apply, because our products are 100% manufactured in Europe. Professionalism and flexibility in the field of product development enable us to develop solutions that provide more comfort and safety. Our products are tested by professionals and further developed together.
An important key to the company's success is the unique premium synthetic fiber insulation G-LOFT®. Warm, light and breathable - even in extremely wet and cold weather. Unrivaled USP is the extraordinary warmth-to-weight ratio of this high-tech fiber. The uniqueness of G-LOFT® acts as the basis of our product portfolio.
Camera: Mikelis Linins
Language: English
Location: Latvia
Review by Janis Klavins, nomad.lv
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I used the Defence 4 in -10c this February. I only slept in my baselayer and it worked well 🎉
Great feedback!👌
I guesstimate how much clothing I will need in the bag. I go into the bag and then add or subtract layers as needed. It's a pain to get out of the bag. I don't want to, but it's important- particularly (as you point out) if wearing too much. I'd sweat and then freeze. You are giving people the knowledge they need. Well done!
Thank you for your feedback!
Anything that isn't the shell layer goes inside, unless it's a tiny mummy-style bag (I'm never buying one again). I don't wear it but it's somewhere around my feet or under my head so it's nice and warm in the morning and easy to find in case of emergency
Hands down best review on carinthia bags
Thank you so much! Keep working on next reviews!
Great video guys! Nice to show how to do it minimal style in cold without spending thousands of dollars on tents and crap. Well done!!
Thank you for good words! Keep working at next project! 👊
The Carinthia D4, one of my most cherished peices of gear.
Cool video! I like the way you gave information about sleeping in cold weather. And a cool shop you have there also!
Thank you! It's the best way to show quality! Like with Direct Action backpack crazy test, did you seen it ?
Grateful for the video. Sounds like you are fun guys too! Def4 ordered! Cheers
Very good review, thanks mate!
Thank you!
Great bag, very happy with it and your fast shipping. Stay safe. 👊
Thank you so much! We've best customers in world!!!
I’m sold. Ordering a Defense 4 right now!
Thank you for trust! We do our best!
How do you like it? Just ordered one myself.
I own a Tropen, Defense 4 and a Defense 6. First years I used the Tropen with the Defense 4 in combination. It works, but it's not that comfi in the usage.
The Defense 6 is much warmer as the Defense 4. I use the Defense 4 not below -5 °C, because it can get very fresh for me at that mark. The Defense 6 kept me warm at -20°C. Never slept outside colder then that.
If you want a winter sleeping bag, get the Defense 6.
We've used Defence 4 also in -20 and it was fine. But maybe thats was comfortable because i'm swimming in winter aswell :)
@Wesley Snider Thank you for your opinion! I think I'm gonna get Tropen for next coming summer and Defence 6 for next winter. At first I was going to get Tropen and after that Defence 4 but for me one sleeping bag seems to be more handy than two combined together.
Hi Wesley, did you use a sleeping mat, mylar blanket, wool blanket, air mattress, and/or sleep in clothes, etc. alongside the sleeping bag when you used the Defense 4?
@@Primal_K a Therm a Rest neoair xtherm (7,2 R). Most of the time I sleep with wool socks and thermo underwear.
@@Elamori u can do the tropen in the Same bag with the 4
Great video
Great to see this review, and the cold in Latvia. My son lives there, 1900Km from his dad haha. He should try this! Thank you.
You've right, this year winter was amaizing in Latvia!
If you try Carinthia at once, then that brand is yours for lifetime ! :)
great stuff guys!
Carinthia always does a good stuff!!! Thank you!
awesome review thank you
I wanted to buy one, and after watching the video, I know which one to get! Great video
Thank you very much!
super sympa merci a vous
↟↟Very cool video.. It's not the first time I've watched it👍🏻
Thanks✊🏻🐺🐾
Thank you very much! It gives us energy to work more! 👊
Nice review straight to the point and you also showed some real tests which i like. My question is what sleeping mat and waterproof groundsheet do you recommend for this sleeping bags? My plan is to get Tropen and Defence 4.
Tropen and Defence 4 are great choice. You can combine them together! Thank you for good words!
Late answer, just watched the video now: I guess it really depends on where you are and what kind of ground there is. The German army groundshield works perfectly nearly everywhere in Europe, is cheap and durable. I was a soldier for a couple years and it never let me down. Not even in the mid-Swedish winter. Hope that helped a little. But I guess after two years you already got one, right? 😂 @ampeg187
Hello Nice review. What gloves do you have for Winter ?
""any problems for tonight? - no my friend, Are you alive?? - yes my friend..." The man just wanted some sleep ahahah
🤣🤣🤣
Guys, thank you for review. My brother now serves in the Ukrainian army. And i would like to buy him Def.4 bag. Thanks to your review now i see Def.6 is a bit too big and too warm.
You're welcome! Def4 are bestseller, it's great choice for Ukrainian winter. Slava Ukraine! 👊
Героям Слава! 💛💙@@Militaryshoplv
@@28sanek 👊
Also from Ukraine, have following setup: D4, Combat Bivy, Klymit inflating mat, Therm-A-Rest pad. I can ensure it can handle any conditions pretty much anywhere. However it has only several week points(common for any sleeping bags) in battlefield cases, the first one is physically impossible to get out quickly what it’s just a matter of life and death under artillery fire, second one is mental you need to battle with your brain to separate sleeping systems like this from a bags for corpses 😅it’s not a joke because you know about the drones sniffing around with grenades to drop. In others it’s perfect. D6 mb better for tourism, less good for soldiers, because of weight and size to carry on you when you need change positions often. Слава Україні, Героям Слава, Карінтія крутяк.
Realy good review. Can feel the professionalism of participants. As pros say, those guys now the “thread”. If you speak about sleeping bags, the thread is most important.
Got there a little bit laugh thou. At the end of the video everyone is asked - If there where any problems during the night and everyone relies - Everything was good. And then I thought. What if you need to pee when you are in the coazy sleeping bag during the night when out side temperature is - 20 degree celsium. :D
Thank you bro for good words! It's give us motivation keep working hard!
@@Militaryshoplv You should keep working, cos you ar doing realy good job.
@@artursveselis3644 these words worth more than million dollars ;)
Back when I was a soldier we peed in our water bottles 😂 the first couple times I was disgust, but you’ll forget about it really fast 😁
Week ago, in a hammock, -17 celsius, i used defence 1 and 4 together, warm water bottle inside bags and all winter clothes on. Yes i was warm until morning. I have doubts for sleepingbag ”comfort” ratings. Sure, im cold sleeper, but still companys want to drop down ratings so it sell better. Okay, with my combination, i think icould go -20-25 just fine. Anyways, i love Carinthia sleepingbags. Bulletproof materials, and with top zippers they work best in hammocks.
Thank you for feedback!
Hi. Great review.
I would like the defence 4. I’m a cold sleeper, but in the UK here, it doesn’t get too cold.
Regards
You're welcome to shop at our online store! Thank you for good words!
Carinthia 😍
Excatly!!!
Best brand in world!
I'm interested in the Carinthia sleeping bags, but I'm a bit confused. I thought Carinthia sold a military "sleeping system", similar to the USGI Sleeping System. The USGI has an outer waterproof Gor-Tex layer, a bag for cold temperatures, and another inner bag for warmer temperatures. When all 3 are used together, it can withstand very cold temperatures. The system works very well, but it's extremely heavy. I believe that's partially due to the fact that the USGI sleeping system uses synthetic insulation from the early 2000's, and it's not the best stuff on the market. Does Carinthia just sell individual sleeping bags, or do they sell a similar sleeping system, that weighs less than the USGI system?
Carinthia give different temperatures on the website compared to the bags... my G40 says 17 but the website says 14 degrees ?
Nice video guys. So to Janis? in the Defence 4. What was your setup and how well did you sleep? Thanks in advance.
Yes, thats Janis Klavins from Latvia. We use Helikon-Tex level 1 underwear and defence 4, Thermarest sleeping mat.
Condensation from body sweat will be a problem at day 2 and 3?
Great video! I just purchased Defence 1 - and so far I am very pleased. Great quality, low weight and a nice price as well. I have a question: Can I combine the Defence 1 with the Defence 4 in order to achieve a lower comfort temperature. And if so, do you have an opinion to what comfort degree I will achieve? Thanks! :)
Hey! Thank you for your opinion! Yes, ofcourse you can combine them to achieve lower comfort temperature.
Yes you can combine both , it works great I love my Defense 1 and 4
@@charlesborum3910 Thank you for your feedback!
Are they supposed to be in same size when combining both?
@@user-rw5fz8wg4s If you have the 'large' (200mm) Def 1, you will need the XL Def 4. However, if you have the regular (185mm) Def 1, you can use it in either size Def 4.
Great video - thank you!
Which do you recommend, defense6 or g490x?
Hi Im sorry if I missed it but may I ask what kind of backpacks you use? Ive got a Carinthia Wilderness sleeping bag and its huge. So I struggle to find a backpack which would fit the sleepingbag inside. I consider getting a defence 4 because its a bit smaller when packed up.
Thank you for the nice review and hope for an answer.
Hello! We use Warrior Assault Systems X300 backpack, it's perfect 3 days backpack! You can find them at our online store aswell.
@@Militaryshoplv thank you very much for the answer! I like your style of videos. Is there any chance you would review that backpack in the future?
@@MK-yk9yu One of our friends already made review about this backpack. Ask me to email, i will send to you link.
What is the reference of your gloves ? Thx
Good review. I didn’t hear, what amount of pad, you were sleeping on.
We've used thermarest sleeping pads in winter.
I have used finnish army defense 4 bag a lot, an my biggest problem is cold feet... i think that bag should be a bit thiker than it is.
Спальники от Штурм решение думаю будут явно теплее Каринтии (успешно продал на Авито), хотя испытать удалось только при -28. Плюс, полезными будут дополнительные элементы от питерских ребят
@Grip Ils sont meilleurs que cette norme. Depuis conçu pour la Sibérie froide
How does this compare to a Wiggys bag?
Hi, thank you for the review. Can you please tell me your brand - link to buy, your jacket ? Thank you
Carinthia!
tacsale.eu/product/carinthia-mig-4-0-jacket-olive
what coat are you wearing? looks sweet!
Carinthia
What about arm holes do they have the arm holes so you can wear it like a coat
Not these two models, but Carinthia has other ones with arm holes. Check their website.
I am going to Spain, but I bought this sleeping bag cuz getting cold outside for a women its no better than a nightmare. :D
Yeah, thats true! For Spain it isnt too warm ? :)
Good afternoon! Is this exactly defense 4 or ALLGEMEIN II?
Hello Igor! In review are Defence 4 and Defence 6 sleeping bags reviewed.
@@Militaryshoplv Thank you!
@@roninas You're welcome!
Do they ship to the USA? I can’t order off they website
Hello! Yes, ofcourse we ship worldwide! USA 3-4 business days. If you've problems with our online store, please send us report to email. Will solve problem!
Hello! I want to buy Defense 4 and combine it with Tropen. Do I need to take the bigger size Defense 4 (Tropen size M + Defense 4 size L) or should they be the same size (Tropen size M + Defense 4 size M)?
M&M works!
I keep a gatorade bottle in my bag to piss in. Because Im not getting out 2 times a night to take a piss. lol. And I wear sleep booties like outdoor vitals to keep my feet warm
Would you say the defense 4 would be warm in a -30 environment if your sleeping in a 5 man winter tent?
Would like to try!
Get the Carinthia Tropen, to use together with the Defense 4.
@@jasip1000 We would to use togehter with Defence 1.
@@Militaryshoplv British and Dutch army use Carinthia Defence 4 and Carinthia Tropen together, and also with a bivi bag.
@@jasip1000 It's great choice!
Disappointed with my defence 4. I was cold in full Merino thermals at +1c. Had a Expad Dura mat with an R value of 5.7. In a tent. I think I'll have to wear insulated booties and down pants to get any use out of it.
Did down side was closed with zip ?
Because at +1C i have everytime too warm.
It’s your thermal underwear that prevented your sleeping bag from warming up! Hence you were cold, my friend. Better use a liner or wear lose clothing such as a pyama.
Yea I agree. Merino is nice for hiking and stuff but most of those are designed to transport heat and sweat away from your body. I used 100% cotton for sleeping in cold conditions back in my army days. Never disappointed.
I'm 5'8" and I found the medium bag too short. I gave the medium one to my son and got a large for myself which fits perfect.
I am around 5’8, if you don’t mind, how much do you weigh? Do you keep any stuff in the bag with you? I’m going to be buying one in the next week or so
What is the difference between a Defence 4 and the Finnish M05 bag?
This sleeping bag is practically a Carinthia Defense 4 Bag (a very highly regarded military and just in general, synthetic sleeping bag). Unlike like a lot of Defense 4 clones, this is made by Carinthia and the temperature ranges are the same so it seems that these are the same sleeping bags.
The definite advantage with this sleeping bag over the Carinthia Defense 4, is that this comes with the optional (but highly recommended cotton liner which attaches and combines well with the sleeping system) in addition to a less useful carrying bag. These two accessories alone cost 70 Euroes if purchased in addition to the regular Carinthia Defense 4. Finally, this sleeping bag has a wider/roomier cut than the slicker Carinthia 4 (this is a matter of preference). It also has a re-enforced toe-box/foot area which the Defense 4 does not have. This is a slightly improved variant of the Defense 4 that for 10 Euroes more has 70 Euroes of accessories that the original Defense 4 needs bought separately.
@@tritnaha1345 Where i can buy Carinthia SA M05 bag?
Finnish SA-M05 has fireproof material layer at the foot end of the sleeping bag
Bravi
Owning a Defense 4 for many years now I can NOT agree to your video!!! Defense 4 is already chilly below 5+ since it is a 3 SEASON bag only! For me this is more an "staged" advertisement rather than a "real" review! Just my 2 Cents!
thank you for your opinion. But this review are made in real weather and with real people. We can't fake it, even you hear snow sound not ussualy as -10, but more cold weather.
How can i get these shipped to the US?
Just order it at our online store. We ship Worldwide. US delivery in 2-4 business days.
What is the best price on the 4.
Hey! Here it is: tacsale.eu/product/carinthia-defence-4-sleeping-bag-olive
Dang let the man sleep
hi, are this current military issue?
Hey! Yes, thats military version.
@@Militaryshoplv christ life of luxury these days lol thanks for reply, liked and subbed 👍
@@eldubs Thank you very much!!!
@fugmanfigment As far as we use Carinthia sleeping bags, everythink was great. Some issues was with MIG 4.0 jacket main zipper. Take care and look at our online store for a new sleeping bag!
Carinthia ist die überteuertste, Marke, die ich kenne.
Viele andere Marken kosten die Hälfte, oder weniger und tun genau das Selbe.
Never too poor to tour
Super expensive price for a bag that has the same problem like all others. You cannot never close all zippers and botons in simple ways.
Немного приукрашивает реальность товарищи
Thank you for your comment. What excatly you mean ? There was -20 degrees and guys go to sleep in winter.
@@Militaryshoplv I was sleeping in Defence 4 in -25. I was is a level 7 jacket and even in my shoes. it was very very cold inside. Looks like I need to use Def.6 for such conditions.
@@dmitryeliseev We had -20 degress in night. I used Helikon-Tex Level1 underwear and Pentagon Iris socks, thats all, condition was very good.
Looks like the defence 6 would keep my Girlfriend warm even at 10° 😅
Yeah, that's ussualy problem with girlfriends. Do it step by step and then she ask you for -15 degrees walk in forest! ;)
Defence 4 is a low cost three season sleeping bag ... read manual first
Cringe.
Так вот как звучит прибалт,говорящий на натовской мове