Thank you for getting this on my radar. I run a cheap very quite suppressor and a bipod and just set up an ammo can and a bag on top, set my RPR on it and it’s perfectly balanced. 🎉 A plus for the RPR is the rotary magazine I’ve loved my entire life and how it doesn’t protrude beyond the magwell, important for shooting off barriers.Thanks for the video.
Thank You so much for the education that you have given me, at my old age. I'm what you could call "a late bloomer". You have give me so much to do upon my Ruger's arrival, and the anticipation is killing me.
I have a Wildcat Predator 12 suppressor on my RPR rifle, I had to cut 50mm of the fore-end of the handguard for it to fit, the point of balance is just in front of the magwell where I fitted a rail and have a bipod there, plus using subsonic ammo it shoots near silent, never had to use ear-pro with it even on indoor ranges.
OK, you just need a bigger bipod!🤣🤣🤣 Just did your test on my RPRR. With my Accu-Tac LR10G2 with the legs folded forward I dont need no stinking weights!
Looking to get into NRL myself and a lot of what you are doing with this build appeals to me as I am on a bit of a budget and the RPR is 1 of the three rifles I was considering to start Building my rig. Would love to get a CZ, but by the time you add the extras that already come included with this platform it prices itself out of my budget. I am planning on adding the weights like you show here, but also want to add an arca rail but will have to wait on 1 of them. In your opinion is it better to do weights first since there are other options for attaching bipods and wait on the arca rail, or would you do the rail first?
Most NRL22 courses of fire only have one prone stage so a simple bipod attachment point is more than sufficient. The advantage of the full arca rail is if you want to shift the bipod around or use plates with bags attached. All of that isn't necessary when you're just starting out. Having a balanced rifle is going to do way more for your stability on barricades so I would lean in that direction. M-Lok weights are stupid expensive for what they are so if you are mechanically inclined and have access to a decent drill/drill press and a high-quality drill bit that can cut metal you can buy copper or brass bar stock off of amazon. Simply drill holes and add M-Lok hardware (you will need to get longer screws from the hardware store). A 1"x6" bar of copper or brass that is 3/8" thick should weigh around 11oz which is equivalent to a pair of MDT chassis weights. The MDT wights cost $60 and for about $25-$30 in materials and hardware you can make your own. M LOK Nuts: amzn.to/3RbNy0t Copper Bar: amzn.to/4c6blqV Brass Bar: amzn.to/3xavo8u In the video I used two sets of MDT weights, but for half the price you can put a copper or brass bar on each side and get the same effect and it will cost you about 50% of what the name brand weights cost. Hope that helps.
@@CopperStarPrecision absolutely does and thanks for the quick reply. I asked a similar question in a rpr forum on Facebook and all the responses were how terrible the rpr is and I shouldn't even consider it which was surprising considering the name of the forum.
Glad to help. While the RPRF isn't the most popular rifle in the NRL22 scene it has a lot of useful features for competition and is extremely reliable.
I realize this is a year old, but did you consider adding an Arca mounted weight that would replicate the weight of the bipod? Like a 6" steel pipe filled with lead shot bolted to an Arca clamp. It would have a lower profile than the bipod so you could use it on barricade stages where the bipod would potentially get hung up. I'm sure there are even better ways to make an Arca mounted weight.
That's definitely a possibility, but not something I chose to pursue. There are commercial versions of what you are describing, most notably, DST Precision's Da' Shaft 2.0. I could always add more weights as well, but as it stands it is pretty well balanced with and without the bipod. I use the bipod for balance on stages that have positions that are easy to get in and out of (like the tips of a tank trap). On stages that involve something where the bipod may get caught (like a stage with different positions on a ladder) I am usually using a GreyOps plate with a sand bag attached that adds enough weight to balance the rifle anyway. Great suggestion to those looking for other balancing options. Thanks for stopping by!
Any recommendations for an affordable arca-attach bipod? I understand the "buy once, cry once" approach, but hoping you know of some options at a price point lower than the $3-500 range. I really enjoy this build playlist. Immensely informative.
That's a tough one, but for around $200 total you can get a Harris bipod (S type) and the Area 419 Harris Bipod ARCA Clamp Kit (which is on sale right now for Cyber Monday). There are other Harris to Arca adapters by other companies, but Area 419 makes some really high quality stuff. Another option is the Arca-Adapter Pro from Wiser Precision which is a picatinny mount attached to an Arca clamp so you can use any picatinny style bipod. Pair that with something like a Magpul bipod for pic rail and you're looking at about $175. Magpul has their own QR Rail Grabber which would do the same thing for their 17S bipod, but it's a little more money. I'm sure there are other combinations that work, but I would advise against going for some off-brand cheap bipod. I think the Harris and the Magpul are probably the best budget options for bipods. By going with name brand you also have better resale value down the line if you want to upgrade. I think I would look for a used Harris bipod on Craigslist or eBay and buy the Area 419 clamp while it's on sale. I personally started with an Atlas bipod, but that is closer to that $300 mark after you get a clamp. I sold that one for $250 and then bought a factory second MDT bipod during their Black Friday sale for $350. Hope that helps!
@@CopperStarPrecision Very helpful. I already have a Harris SBRM for shooting ART. I like the AREA419 product, so I went ahead and ordered the adapter and a 4" ARCALOCK for the ART ($125 incl. ship for both - on sale). I already have a Sawtooth ARCA for my RPR. Thanks for the hints.
You could, but I would advise against it. Anything attached to the barrel is going to impact barrel harmonics. You will probably have a point of impact shift that you will have to re-zero for and ammo that worked well before may not be as accurate. You might have to do lot testing again.
@@jrr0529 You can run a muzzle device, but just make sure you have it on before you do any lot testing. A brake/compensator isn't going to do much on a 22lr rifle in terms of recoil reduction though. A suppressor would be fun, but that might change harmonics over time as it gets heavier from carbon bulidup. You could use a tuner as a muzzle device to try to tune the barrel harmonics. All in all I wouldn't add one for the sake of adding something unless you have a good reason. If you do plan on using something, do all of your lot testing with it on in the first place.
At this point the rifle is ready for competition, but I will be returning to the base class build series with a few more upgrades in future videos. Stay tuned!
@@Pew_pewchronicles I hear you haha. This rifle is for base class NRL22 so a pretty strict budget limit on the rifle and optic. I use a CZ in open class. I think with the right tweaks it can be a competitor (for base class), but anyone serious about the sport isn't going to be in base class anyway. Stay tuned as I will be taking it to a match later this month to see how it does.
Thank you for getting this on my radar. I run a cheap very quite suppressor and a bipod and just set up an ammo can and a bag on top, set my RPR on it and it’s perfectly balanced. 🎉 A plus for the RPR is the rotary magazine I’ve loved my entire life and how it doesn’t protrude beyond the magwell, important for shooting off barriers.Thanks for the video.
Thank You so much for the education that you have given me, at my old age. I'm what you could call "a late bloomer". You have give me so much to do upon my Ruger's arrival, and the anticipation is killing me.
Thank you for the heartfelt comment and you're very welcome. I hope you enjoy the Ruger as much as I do mine!
Caught the Thanos reference! thank you for these videos. straightforward and to the point with great visual aids.
You're very welcome.
Thanks for these videos. I’ve just bought ‘almost’ the same rifle and the whole series of videos has been great.
You're welcome. Thanks for stopping by!
I just shot my first 22 match with a borrowed rifle and I'm hooked, and getting a setup like this exactly and your videos are very helpful
Thank you sir! Looking forward to the shooting part!
I have a Wildcat Predator 12 suppressor on my RPR rifle, I had to cut 50mm of the fore-end of the handguard for it to fit, the point of balance is just in front of the magwell where I fitted a rail and have a bipod there, plus using subsonic ammo it shoots near silent, never had to use ear-pro with it even on indoor ranges.
I'm a little late to see these videos, but they are money. Not seeing anyone else do videos of this quality.
Great videos brother. Thanks for all of the helpful tips regarding the RPRR. Life is good!
In the episode we're you balanced the rifle what brand was the bag you used to sit the fire on. Great videos cheers for uploading them
That's an Armageddon Gear pint sized sticky gamechanger
OK, you just need a bigger bipod!🤣🤣🤣 Just did your test on my RPRR. With my Accu-Tac LR10G2 with the legs folded forward I dont need no stinking weights!
haha! Nice!
Looking to get into NRL myself and a lot of what you are doing with this build appeals to me as I am on a bit of a budget and the RPR is 1 of the three rifles I was considering to start Building my rig. Would love to get a CZ, but by the time you add the extras that already come included with this platform it prices itself out of my budget. I am planning on adding the weights like you show here, but also want to add an arca rail but will have to wait on 1 of them. In your opinion is it better to do weights first since there are other options for attaching bipods and wait on the arca rail, or would you do the rail first?
Most NRL22 courses of fire only have one prone stage so a simple bipod attachment point is more than sufficient. The advantage of the full arca rail is if you want to shift the bipod around or use plates with bags attached. All of that isn't necessary when you're just starting out.
Having a balanced rifle is going to do way more for your stability on barricades so I would lean in that direction.
M-Lok weights are stupid expensive for what they are so if you are mechanically inclined and have access to a decent drill/drill press and a high-quality drill bit that can cut metal you can buy copper or brass bar stock off of amazon. Simply drill holes and add M-Lok hardware (you will need to get longer screws from the hardware store).
A 1"x6" bar of copper or brass that is 3/8" thick should weigh around 11oz which is equivalent to a pair of MDT chassis weights. The MDT wights cost $60 and for about $25-$30 in materials and hardware you can make your own.
M LOK Nuts: amzn.to/3RbNy0t
Copper Bar: amzn.to/4c6blqV
Brass Bar: amzn.to/3xavo8u
In the video I used two sets of MDT weights, but for half the price you can put a copper or brass bar on each side and get the same effect and it will cost you about 50% of what the name brand weights cost.
Hope that helps.
@@CopperStarPrecision absolutely does and thanks for the quick reply. I asked a similar question in a rpr forum on Facebook and all the responses were how terrible the rpr is and I shouldn't even consider it which was surprising considering the name of the forum.
Glad to help. While the RPRF isn't the most popular rifle in the NRL22 scene it has a lot of useful features for competition and is extremely reliable.
I realize this is a year old, but did you consider adding an Arca mounted weight that would replicate the weight of the bipod? Like a 6" steel pipe filled with lead shot bolted to an Arca clamp. It would have a lower profile than the bipod so you could use it on barricade stages where the bipod would potentially get hung up. I'm sure there are even better ways to make an Arca mounted weight.
That's definitely a possibility, but not something I chose to pursue. There are commercial versions of what you are describing, most notably, DST Precision's Da' Shaft 2.0. I could always add more weights as well, but as it stands it is pretty well balanced with and without the bipod.
I use the bipod for balance on stages that have positions that are easy to get in and out of (like the tips of a tank trap). On stages that involve something where the bipod may get caught (like a stage with different positions on a ladder) I am usually using a GreyOps plate with a sand bag attached that adds enough weight to balance the rifle anyway.
Great suggestion to those looking for other balancing options. Thanks for stopping by!
Any recommendations for an affordable arca-attach bipod? I understand the "buy once, cry once" approach, but hoping you know of some options at a price point lower than the $3-500 range. I really enjoy this build playlist. Immensely informative.
That's a tough one, but for around $200 total you can get a Harris bipod (S type) and the Area 419 Harris Bipod ARCA Clamp Kit (which is on sale right now for Cyber Monday). There are other Harris to Arca adapters by other companies, but Area 419 makes some really high quality stuff.
Another option is the Arca-Adapter Pro from Wiser Precision which is a picatinny mount attached to an Arca clamp so you can use any picatinny style bipod. Pair that with something like a Magpul bipod for pic rail and you're looking at about $175. Magpul has their own QR Rail Grabber which would do the same thing for their 17S bipod, but it's a little more money.
I'm sure there are other combinations that work, but I would advise against going for some off-brand cheap bipod. I think the Harris and the Magpul are probably the best budget options for bipods. By going with name brand you also have better resale value down the line if you want to upgrade.
I think I would look for a used Harris bipod on Craigslist or eBay and buy the Area 419 clamp while it's on sale.
I personally started with an Atlas bipod, but that is closer to that $300 mark after you get a clamp. I sold that one for $250 and then bought a factory second MDT bipod during their Black Friday sale for $350.
Hope that helps!
@@CopperStarPrecision Very helpful. I already have a Harris SBRM for shooting ART. I like the AREA419 product, so I went ahead and ordered the adapter and a 4" ARCALOCK for the ART ($125 incl. ship for both - on sale). I already have a Sawtooth ARCA for my RPR. Thanks for the hints.
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What about using a heavy muzzle brake for the weight more so than recoil mitigation?
You could, but I would advise against it. Anything attached to the barrel is going to impact barrel harmonics. You will probably have a point of impact shift that you will have to re-zero for and ammo that worked well before may not be as accurate. You might have to do lot testing again.
So best to avoid muzzle devices for 22s?
@@jrr0529 You can run a muzzle device, but just make sure you have it on before you do any lot testing. A brake/compensator isn't going to do much on a 22lr rifle in terms of recoil reduction though.
A suppressor would be fun, but that might change harmonics over time as it gets heavier from carbon bulidup.
You could use a tuner as a muzzle device to try to tune the barrel harmonics.
All in all I wouldn't add one for the sake of adding something unless you have a good reason. If you do plan on using something, do all of your lot testing with it on in the first place.
@@CopperStarPrecisiondo you shoot with the thread protector on? I felt mine shot better without it but I don’t like the bare threads.
What size sun shade are you running on that optic?
What happened to Part 7?
At this point the rifle is ready for competition, but I will be returning to the base class build series with a few more upgrades in future videos. Stay tuned!
If you’re serious about precision you wouldn’t run a Ruger that’s a plinker not a match rifle
But it has precision right in the name!
@@CopperStarPrecision so does Joe Biden that doesn’t make him presidential 😂
@@Pew_pewchronicles I hear you haha. This rifle is for base class NRL22 so a pretty strict budget limit on the rifle and optic. I use a CZ in open class.
I think with the right tweaks it can be a competitor (for base class), but anyone serious about the sport isn't going to be in base class anyway.
Stay tuned as I will be taking it to a match later this month to see how it does.
@@CopperStarPrecision nice 👍 I only seem one video in your channel but your sense of humor earned my subscription
(Burst). The sound of my bubble popping. Unfortunately budget is a big deal for a lot of people.