Decoding the Science of Ultimate Human Performance | Steven Kotler | Talks at Google
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- As the author of The Rise of Superman and co-founder of the Flow Genome Project, Steven Kotler is one of the world's leading experts on ultimate human performance. In this riveting talk, he provides a stunning tour of current research, primarily focusing on "flow states"-an optimal state of consciousness where we both feel our best and perform our best. Researchers now know that flow sits at the heart of almost every athletic championship; underpins most major scientific breakthroughs; and accounts for significant progress in the arts. In business, its impact has been substantial. Coders in flow built the internet; video game designers in flow built the video game industry. "Flow state percentage"-which is the amount of time employees spend in flow-has been called the most important management metric for building great innovation teams. As a result of all of this, an increasing number of companies have put the cultivation of flow at the heart of their philosophies. So what is this mysterious state? How does it work its magic? And-if this really is the secret to ultimate human performance-how can we get more of it in our personal and professional lives?
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Most of us experienced Flow several times before without labeling it as "Flow". And it is not just Flow "On" or "Off" - It is a spectrum.. from micro flow (what you may feeling during Meditation, Yoga or Running) to macro flow (when more "Flow" is there, more neurochemicals are being released and you just feeling amazing and present for hours.). Keep Flowing!
Hi, from your experience how long before one experiences this it your a beginner at meditation?
Just follow the river
Once off
Always On.
True power. Leading thyself to water, then telling self, the longer you wait, the wetter it Is. 🤔
God Bless you Friend.
Yeah, I was gonna say isn’t it just called “presence” but you touched on that
*HEARING a LOT of **_"We Don't Know", & it's refreshingly honest!_*
Thank you for helping me identify an experience I had as flow. After I played a gig as a drummer people came up to me and asked how I did the fills and solo that I was able to do. I just said I don't know, I wasn't there for it but knew I played better than I ever have. I wish I was present for it though. lol
Extremely interesting. The question of 'flow' appears to be very close to what the English philosopher Colin Wilson spent the best part of his life investigating. He called it 'Faculty X' and he approached it initially from an artistic perspective in The Outsider. Kosler approaches it from an 'action sports' perspective, while Maslow approaches it from a medical viewpoint. I do hope that the insights that are gained will be used in a serious and productive way, to help us take the next step on the evolutionary ladder
Now thank we all our God with heart and. Sole and voices.
Just when Joan of ark needs it.
i used to think more performance meant more thinking, more rumination during practice. Now I get why its so important to 'empty' yourself
Thank you so much. I experience this from time to time . One time it lasted for about a week. It's some years ago. Who I was before and after changed me completely. How I saw the world was turned upside down. After it I felt a little mind-blown for a couple days just by looking at de world. tried to explain this feeling to someone else saying: maybe it's all in my head and maybe Im just going crazy, but i never felt anything more real, and I never felt so alive. Since then I feel it every now and then but less intense. not that I can switch it on and off.(although I wished so) It just comes and goes. it feels like my fire.
I just started listening to Steven .his voice pitch is similar to Robert Downey jr … keeps you attention when he talks
yeah
That's because they take your imagine and voice to do a pitch of you
He sounds like George Clooney in Up The Air ✈️
11:06 I’m grateful for FLOW. 🙏🏻
15:57 Thought of the movie Lucy 🎥
It reminds me that a student, who have to pass the exam for the credit,
then there are tons of textbooks which has to be reviewed again and again with little time. He or ( She) happen to know the drug that make your performance beyond infinity. It seems to me that it was a day-dream. But I am living in the competitive society which drove us to the once-upon-time story. In this video, you can see the example of excellent way of scientific discovery.
Are you speaking English?
Awesome talk!!!! Thank you so much!
8:44 Flow is a gateway to more that most of us seek.
- Dr. New Hallowell
Emptiness | Silence | Mindfulness | Meditation
This is really good. 22:50 is important. And the opposite is true as well. The more neuro-chemicals that show up during a negative experience, the more that encounter will be stored in long term memory rather than short term.
So the greater the amount or frequency of adrenaline and cortisol showing up during an encounter with a person or environment, the longer and more accutely you will 'tag' that person or environment with fear or discomfort.
fascinating stuff right here! thank you for pointing this out. ✌🏻:)
Thanks for the talk!
You answered some questions I had in mind for quite a time. Agree about music - that's one the way I get to a state of flow - my imagination is turning on.
Why both of you had such a wide open eyes? Just curious, cause wide opened eyes got me in a micro-micro state of flow listening to you.
i didn't know about steven kotler but i selfexperienced this the last 6 months and it was the best time in my whole life .... i had so much energy, was so creative, worked so much, felt so happy, had so much self esteem, felt so healthy, could feel and see things not many people around me realized, no challenge or problem was too big to solve ... and then i had a house renovation with my family for a month .... they where treating each others and me like shit and brought me daily in situation that i tried to solve but it was impossible ... at first my mood changed from happy to sad and angry .... than i lost my self esteem ... my health ... and so on ... i only could think about them and how i can solve the problem between them and me .... i can't and don't want to delete them out of my life because there are not bad people, they only stuck in negative patterns .... i told them about my new lifestyl, positive energy, flow states but they think i'm crazy and to sensitive if i can handle this .... now i have anxiety and depression, feel like a junkie on turkey and feel worst then ever ....everything i build the last months in my work and personal life is falling apart ....
we talked everything out and i thought i already forgave them, i love them but everytime i think of them i only feel pain, get angry and sad and i still don't have a real answer how i should live a productive, professional, healthy and positive lifestyle and have a relationship with them
How are you doing now??
@@ggeorge02 tired....and lost
Get back in flow raise your vibration again
@@snubdawg1386 try to search for a path of tranquility, to exist in a reality where you possess inner peace. Buddha teaches to let go of what is outside of your control. You can watch the ted talk of Mingyur Rinpoche of tapping into your awareness, his teachings are enlightening
It makes me think that the "trials of manhood" popular amongst more "primitive" societies was an instinctual seeking to engage in this flow state, which would have obvious benefits if the trials were successful. Which would also mean humanity has been chasing the flow state for far longer than the hundred or so years we've engaged in higher resolution breakdown of the state and it's benefits. And could very well be one of the major reasons for humanities intellectual and social ascension. Now I'm excited to see where the next step in the refinement of flow state induction techniques will lead humanity as a whole. So much yet to learn. I love it!
Thanks .....like the reference to limitless
Thanks again
38:08 Great talk guys.
I get in a flow state about half way through my running of back-woods state park trails.
Great progress... I notice in the forum there seemed some confusion to differentiate between being in flow state and the experience of adrenal high. The two states are different, but the newness of the scientific investigation may not have much clarity on this as the speakers describe. In my experience (and my approach to use flow has been through my Shaolin lineage and Spiritual knowledge combined with a lifetime application in first world that led me to even save my life at one point by resetting my immune system) is that the flow state comes as a "break through" a barrier-not unlike a plane breaks the sound barrier, but although that involves an emotional psychological "conscious" decision to surrender, to let go of the ultimate attachment that keeps us in the adrenal-cortisol state - i.e. high stress fight flight. In my case this surrender although conscious becomes a deep state where conscious awareness is lost - but also the breath to induce the flow state is not the same as going directly into theta and meditation. But yes the breath kick starts the pushing beyond that barrier and then the Ego surrenders and we lose ourselves in the totality of nothingness. Maybe we lose consciousness sometimes - I did when I nearly died but not before I put my body into the flow state - and that's how I survived. But I had practiced that for most of my life without having the label of science upon it-I later came to know the scientific term was flow state. But I used it in business-not just my recreation or personal and spiritual life. Many could not understand how I managed to sustain eighty hour week contracts and deliver into organisations the work of four people. This actually became a problem later as no future recruiters would believe my roles and work ethic!
PS - the reason I commented on the difference of adrenal high and flow state is that its relevant to the motorcycle riders question. Adrenal state repeated and sustained will "blow out" your kundalini or body energy system-and is the stress burn out that kills. Because Flow state flushes out the cortisol, if we are in the appropriate recovery phase we can reverse the terminal conditions of adrenal burn-which is pretty much what modern society lives on - adrenal junkies.
I found you through Big Think, I was a 100m sprinter. A very good one at my time, flow clicked right away when I heard it explained.
Exploit your flow zone and you will be an amazing person.
Are adrenaline junkies seeking flow?
I seek adrenaline and I find flow when I'm jacked and focused. I'm Add and attention is difficult sometimes, not once have I been distracted when I was flowing-- always two steps ahead mentally.
try 400m sprinting. You get EXTENDED flow. Longer that that and you get tired and shit and your speed takes the hit.
Very valuable information, thank you
Great talk. Thank you!
I am here because I experienced a 'flow' state on a pretty deep level. Needless to say I want more. Surely just learning and understanding this topic increases the possibilities of me experiencing this again......I hope :)
Are you a avid flowstate practitioner yet, because contrary to the claims it is available on a non proprietary basis?
@@thedailydao macro flow vs micro flow?
grooving as One will evoke miraculous evolution. Groovism is our belief!!
Very good. Thanks for sharing.
"If they live through the experience, we know they're in flow."
LOL
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This is so cool. I have had this happen so many times. Solutions to coding problems come in dreams or in the middle of the night. Had no idea this was a “thing”.
My list of flow triggers, in order of priority:
1. Working with my hands (e.g. woodworking)
2. Gigging with my band
3. Riding my motorcycle on a twisty road
Very informative thank you for this google
Awesome show! You should listen to Steven Kotler on The Art of Charm Podcast. He discusses his latest book...such a great book.
He's going in and out of a flow state when speaking. When he comes out of a flow state, he starts stuttering and messing up his words, but then he gets his brain back in flow which you'll notice when he speaks more fluently and it's easy to follow him on this brain wave he's riding. I find myself going into a flow state allowing my brain to take in what he is saying to absorb the information more efficiently.
this is when his words are being deceptive or lying, this is the second video im watching and in the previous video his introduction based on personal experience is very different, he never mentioned this lime poisoning life threatening moment of realization it was something else, and you can easily read into his agenda, "how to make slaves more productive, by zapping your brain with commands from an outside source, MIND CONTROL this man is a snake oil salesman in the most slippery of skins
My thinking is it’s more about the loss of focus. You can probably look at a LOT of humanity through the lens of flow state. It is a very complex and novel idea
Thank U so much God bless U 🙏
All very intriguing...something I have studied since the early nineties...and now utilizing with my work in responsive kinetics in combination with mindset practices...intention combined with the energy in motion states. We attempted to discuss with Andy Walshe this approach and this equipment but he seemed intimidated. Great that redbul has put so much money into this but the product is essentially diabetes trigger. Something like 28g of suger pet?! Back now to when tobacco was the big money in sports.
Anyway, the topic and discussion here and elsewhere is great to see.
At FasTwitch Kinetics we develop explosive power and systemic neuromuscular adaptation that exceed results if traditional modes! It is very exciting to be cutting edge!
Anyway
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🥰🥰🥰😇😇😇Thanks for sharing
You need to understand that not one thing has to do with the external. It is all to improve the self.
With regard to the front part of the brain, the prefrontal cortex responsible for talking to ourselves going quiet when we are in flow, be able to tell me where I can find the scientific evidence for this please. Thank you.
Riding motorcyles is addictive, pushing and trusting self.
Autonomy, mastery and purpose. Yes, all 3 of those makes riding bikes such a great experience. And I'll live longer? What a bonus :)
I too see flow hacking with Game Development & Gamers. I see many hours of developing systems to keep users engaged for entertainment, and those users spending even more hours within those grind systems to be pros for stats, points, skills, money ext.. Using gamers as a test group can probably expedite stat gathering for the Flow Genome Project. Pro gamers want all the barging rights for developing those skills, to brag with their friends and be their best, so the stakes are high, and even I still catch myself in repetitive games simply for that endorphin rush as described in this video. Got to be careful here in this industry with flow because you can see hours, days, weeks, months, and years seem to disappear if the activity has no economic value and true flow is achieved.
cooooooooool
Contact Stanford Persuasive technolgy Lab
Yessssss literally just play video games for the flow state, better than any drug😌
28:00 Intrinsic motivation?! You mean humans can actually do productive things because they genuinely enjoy doing them instead of being coerced? Are we not actually inherently lazy and worthless, and need authority structures to force us into worthwhile behavior? Could it be that our very default nature is already set up to benefit ourselves and other people?
Hey! Come on!!! See, I am a dancer, and I truly, genuinely enjoy doing the things I do instead of being coerced. Whatever I do, I enjoy it. I enjoy life. I don't feel that I am lazy and worthless. I live a meaningful life, helping others, making others happy, and others help me and make me happy. Don't be negative about yourself, please. Don't believe that you are inherently lazy and worthless. Be productive, create the life you want. You can do that. I am sure about that.
You aren’t “inherently” anything.
This is astounding to me! im new and just found steven kotler or any intellectual representation of this phenomena/mechanism i believe the flow is rather interesting, maybe more or less interesting to those who have experienced some kind of thing that resembles it,(when you find it why still look? looking too hard = being less interested in explaining it and just being it) as soon as i tried to make it stay it went away somehow over a period of time that I'm unsure of, without sounding new age in any way i experienced something that made almost everything feel different, the level of cognitive ability was beautiful to experience, pain was utterly absent, i noticed that being around people was a food for it, i connected with people in my life with utter easy, quite frankly a fucking comic book experience, the real me)) more to come. is this what religious awakenings get confused with i wonder? either way its ok
Religious experience vs flow vs normal daily experience, per described sounds to be like:
Normal daily experience: Self-aware being &doing
Flow: Aware being & doing
Religious awakenin experience: awareness
I find listening to certain types of music really put me in an over-the-top creative state. The Last Samurai soundtrack, Adrian Von Ziegler from youtube (Celtic music that lasts for hours), and certain artists in trance that can actually inspire emotion (with no vocals) like Afternova and Sound Apparel, have the most effect. I have been listening to music and visualizing different scenes whether they be music video'ish, stage performance related, or movie/script/screenwritten in application. I've been doing that off and on since high school and each type of music puts me in a different creative mind set. For me it all started in 1999 with the Saviour Machine Legend I and II CD's. The longer and more unique the music the more my imagination flows. It's almost like channeling the sound into creative energy... something I have termed Soundergy. I have listened to different meditation CD's throughout the years and I can honestly say that I think some of them reduced my ability. Like MInd-Tek's 28 Minutes to a Supercharged Brain. Then again that could because it locks you in alpha/theta brainwave mode. I got more creative in real life, but my mental ability to visualize and construct creative scenery diminished. I no longer listen to meditation CD's as I have over done it and been experiencing demonic episodes of sleep paralysis. They were absolutely not dreams and real enough to scare the life out of me. I have been paralyzed in brain-on body-off modes before in the past on rare occasion, but the stuff it causes now is too severe for me to ever listen to mind-altering meditation CD's. It's like a portal to the shadows open up over me when I listen to low-frequency sound matrices.
On a side note, the DMAA or DMAE that was in the original Jack3d formula before it was removed for fake reasons was verrrrrry effective in causing a flow state. Every once in a while the Jack3d would actually work awesomely and cause an unparalleled level of focus and enhanced thinking beyond above-normal conditions. I found out later that was from the part of it that had been removed, and the dosing was so small that it wasn't mixed evenly with the supplement. Hence the reason sometimes it worked while most times it didn't. This was back in 2011 for me so somewhere around there it was removed. I've taken piracetam, aniracetam, oxiracetam & pramiracetam (and I have a small container of phenyl-piracetam I am waiting to try out laying around somewhere). DMAA exceeds all of them, especially hen the dosing size is around 10Mg. I imagine the actual dose I would have been getting when I felt it might have been more than that but there is no way of measuring it.
@I'm Banned In Hidden I agree with you. House, Deep House and Progressive Trance are very potent, pleasant ways to achieve a flow state 💜
I learned that being in a very still and quite space,is when I'm at my most creative state
This is the best eye opener I have ever seen amazing to say the least
Great Talk
Thank you
I find the description of his experience on the surfboard fascinating, but it also puzzles me. I actually bought his book, and it seems like the bulk of his focus is on extreme sports. He argues that the best 'flow hack' is to put yourself in a situation that's do or die, where you are forced to fully enter the present moment. That seems different from his experience at the beginning, which sounds like a casual afternoon on a surfboard. I wonder if anyone else has had an experience like his? I wonder what it was about surfing a 2 ft. wave that created the perfect flow formula. I realize there are many flow triggers, not just risk, but I just can't imagine having a transcendent experience like he describes without upping the ante. Maybe I'm wrong! Would love help on this.
In my opinion, before flow, someone has to master some basic principles regarding the activities he/she is doing. For example an engineer that is trying to solve complex equation has to first master basic algebra or calculus, then this person can advanced to more complex equation. You must differentiate between (1) Your mind state when you are learning a skill or it's principle for the very first time - getting familiar with the parameters & (2) Your mind state when you put the learned skills into action to test the boundaries of what your skill can accomplished - adjusting the parameters.
In your case, do or die incorporate a factor of time. Most people feel time is closing in on them when they are in a hurry or panic. A relaxing casual surfing on a calm wave has two parameters; slow time & low wave intensity. On the other hand, surfing on a tidal wave in a world record breaking competition has two parameters; fast time & high wave intensity. The parameters are the same (time & wave intensity) but adjusted to different levels.
So...flow triggers are different between the pros & the beginner. For a beginner, just by the act of connecting dots between bits of information regarding the skills he is learning, may already triggered that sense of flow state. But for the pros, he has already done that before. So you must introducing/adjust new parameters in their skills. One of it is time. The principles still remains, they just manifested in different forms.
If you are familiar with martial arts, there are four mind states in karate; Shoshin, Mushin, Fudoshin, Zanshin. The first one (Shoshin) is applicable when you are learning a new skill or introduced to new insights for the very first time. The next three is when you are acting out the skills/insights in combat. The first one is like filling the bowl with water (knowing the insight & details of each kicks, punches, grapples, etc). The next three are like emptying the bowl (internalizing the details so much, that you don't even try to remember them during combat, they are already part of you). You are just focusing on what happening in the present moment (Mushin), the execution of your own movements (Fudoshin), and your opponent movements (zanshin).
Soo...yeah flow state is a spectrum that vary between beginner & expert. I think the best way to explain "Flow" is "When preparations meet opportunities". For beginners, they are abundance in opportunities, but low in preparations. For experts, they are abundance in preparations but low in opportunities (time is a factor of opportunity, that is what happened with world record athletes in a time limited competition). Beginners have all the time in the world, but not well prepared for what is coming.
Hope that helps.
Ive learned how to do this, i mass manipulated my whole school to charge up my chakras in an 8 hour day ( im wanted dead or alive and havent been to school for 2 months but going back after spring break) and i used to flow all the time. With the power of meditation eating healthy and excersize behind me. Im currently weak from being locked up basically but when i go back to school ill get my strenght and literally flow back :)
25:00 not to nitpick... but Hillel is quoted to actually say "What is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor", it's subtly different, yet the meaning is exponentially more profound.
all my major insights came to me when the digits 1,2 and 3 were present on the clock (in various orders), which was nice
thank you
"They all said the same thing: They all felt their best and performed their best while in this state of flow"
But they didn't know about the state of flow until asked about it.
So here's the corrected version.
"They all said the same thing: They all felt their best and performed their best while they were feeling their best and performing at their best".
I"m not bashing flow, I'm just saying there's little logic to the first statement in this comment. You went up to an elderly korean woman and asked her about flow and obviously you had to describe to her what flow was, so then she said "yes, I was in flow, the thing you are describing that I know nothing about other than it is a state of heightened well-being and mental agility"
I read Flow, It's really interesting and a good book, but Flow is not super easy to achieve as you seem to be implying since, as it was originally proposed, Flow requires a few prerequisites such as quick feedback loops and the triggers the speakers discussed above
Ok dang that makes a lot of sense
I've been doing this my whole life. I always called it Hyperfocus, and was my explanation to my parents for how I could read 120 to 200 pages an hour, and not hear anything going on around me, have photographic recall, and works 14 hours without a break figuring something out and not notice the passage of time.
What's the importance of the struggle phase? Couldn't you just get into the release phase, by activating the relaxation response? Does the cortisol and adrenaline of the struggle phase help get into the release phase?
"The merging is complete. We burrrrn. Power overwhelming."
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Probably the "Flow" is also the reason why the "Scrum" agile software development methodology works.
Abel Melquiades Callejo was thinking the same... sprint cycles or scrum is being adopted a huge amount here in the UK, especially for start ups
Problem with all these Smart nerds is that they need to hit the gym and pump them muscles. That is a great way to increase mental sharpness and flow.
prisoneroftech True. Alot of smart people ignore that. Self identify as a "brainyack" and deteriorate in later life, mentally and physically.
Yup, they need to control their physical composition I 100% agree. It's annoying, because they don't I only consider them partial authorities.
Aerobic exercise increases neurogenesis moreso than resistance training by far.
@@andrewwilliams1857 Anaerobic training stimulates both pathways. Not mutually exclusive. It's all about BDNF and almost everything magical about strength training takes place through neural adaptations. Motor units recruiting more fibers from the same nerve impulse, etc. My money is definitely on lifting heavy stuff
for me its ssri+coffee+vape+music
this is my reciepie for flow state
this reminds me of that baseball player who took acid thinking that he was not going to pitch the game. he ended up pitching on acid because the other pitcher injured himself. he pitch a perfect game on acid( on flow). i have also heard of pool player cheating by taking acid to achieve flow and have perfect games. could this be the hack this guy is looking for? what do you all think?
Acid is known to produce what's called ego death, so it is in line with their hypothesis. I personally have achieved heights of creativity on acid when I was completely self-less, that being said, when I drop, I also meditate for at least an hour before it kicks in. I use it solely for medicinal purposes to treat PTSD and occasionally to explore some creative ideas.
Dock Ellis for the Pirates. Fucking legendary.
@@benswitzer4679 agreed! Having a hard time FINDING the stuff
🥰🥰🥰😇😇😇Thanks for sharing
The speaker in the video is in flow 👁🥳
Need to find this trans-cranial stimulation beam generator :P
21:00 wew! I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me
then a full frontal lobotomy
can someone give advice how i can re-enter flow state without energetic blocks..... I achieved and overcame disease for yrs then ran into something how can i overcome this?
Disease removed, your giant necessity, gone. I've had a similar "discovery" followed by block. Here are my ideas, since the experience has individual but common threads: 1. Find a new giant, overwhelming, massive necessity. Turn your desire into an adversity of life and death proportions. If you can convince yourself it's of that kind of significance, you'll find the path. 2. Start with adrenaline. This is my formula and some hate it. But pushing through fear is actually old hat...it's been around since the 80s at least! 3. Avoid synthetic chemicals. Since we're talking natural neurotransmitters, even if you can induce a similar state with a chemical cocktail it's cheating and you're not going to achieve the same rewards, efficacy, and ability to pop into the state by learning to trigger yourself. It will be temporary, weaker, may not induce the correct reward-center wiring. 4. Re-associate to the experience. Get in a great state using cardio. While you're in cardio, get into memories of what your were doing when you achieved flow. Then, after shower/cooldown...continue to remember good triggers/moments. What were you focusing on, how did you feel, how was physiology (did you do it relaxed and reclined, or was it while performing an art or solving a problem? Was it while exerting?) 5. Meditate regularly. Set up goals for the meditation. For example, "clearing the mind" doesn't get you past alpha as far as I'm aware. Mindfulness is close to flow and is a good precursor. It's good for you anyway. But visualization/astral projection of some kind...creation from a place of deep meditation is closer. I have an innate ability to do this so I understand it's kind of a big expectation but I'll share lastly...
6. Regarding your LimBe's (limiting beliefs). They're all just lies anyway. If we create LimBe's they're just excuses. I believe 99.8% of people CAN enter flow. We are designed to do it, no matter how you believe we got here. It is the creative operating system of the mind! It's how the Pyramids were built, how miracles are performed, and how peak performance occurs. "Blocks" are limiting beliefs, the root of which are alterations to truth. You can, period. Go out and be your best.........and don't forget the gratitude! I believe it to be an unmentioned component as well...
"3 things will remain forever. Faith, Hope, and Love, but the greatest of all is Love."
Love from Cali
Pete
It's all about Flow
+Worms Hip Hop Yeah nigga, keep the flow! Those rhimez man...
Theodor Berza thank you, fasho!
+Worms Hip Hop water you talking about
34:05 “if you’re _not _*_failing_*_ you’re not learning_ as rapidly as you might”
Steven Kotler & Jamie could help cure Parkinson's!!! #Genius
flow is not "overclocking you processor", it's slowing it down, putting it on standby, and just running in the NOW... minimal 'processing'
whatever flow is, "overclocking" is certainly not an appropriate analogy lol
I love everything from Kotler. But I do wonder, on how I can access flow without doing crazy things. I can increase focus by limiting my thinking, but it's nothing compared to flow. As flow is extremely addictive. What I want to do, is picture in my mind what it is like to be in flow to the point my subconscious believes it, thus releasing the chemicals in the brain. What the brain believes it makes real. We can see this in Napoleon Hill's book, THINK AND GROW RICH. But I know there is more to this idea, and I think Kotler and Wheal get more involved in the depth of how the brain makes things real.
Wouldn't it be interesting if we could without the need of anything but our brains induce the chemicals at will? Like the 29% of the people who work jobs that produce flow. It would not only fix the addictive issue, and enhance learning. Which I am all about learning faster and better.
Fashion ... attach flow activities to colors and fashions and other anchors like stones or jewelry....by doing the hard practices with them on or in mind and it will help drop you into the river also breathing patterns mixed with physical anchors ... why is it a good luck charm cause everyone time you kissed it or smelled it good shit happen ... basically making your own placebo out of a mixture of practicing anchoring and ritual.
I like talks that don't have time limit. Everything on web was trim down.
Limitless!
Flow state is who i am
Oh I love how hip hop is incorporated into everything that is seemingly so distant from it LOL 😆 is a lot of metaphors to use is a lot of ways to describe that but hip hop is inserted I love it
If anyone has the link to the Harvard Study about the 12.5% who actually changed please let me know.
I have a problem with the research being done with extreme athletes, and the idea of addictive chemicals in the brain. When we are in a Flow state, which EVERYone has experienced, the 'self' vanishes. By definiton, we are in an altered state in pefect "flow" with the task we are absorbed in. This is certainly a different part of the brain to our normal "aware" surface consciousness: that is, aware of our surroundings and our place in those surroundings. However:
Extreme sports generate a great deal of adrenaline which is released when we are in a survival situation: we are essentially trying to cheat death. This is a mix of testosterone and adrenaline, which may *subsequently* release the other five chemicals Steve Kotler has mentioned here: yes, that can be addictive.
But we cannot be "addicted" to a Flow state, as by definition, there is no *self-awareness* in a Flow state. If we say to ourselves "Wow, I'm in a Flow state!" then we are NOT in a Flow state. Same when we are meditating: if we say "Wow, I'm really meditating now", then we are not in a meditative state!
Extreme sports may require a Flow state to execute, but Flow states are far more common in periods of creativity and problem-solving. "Flow" is an extreme type of Focus. If Flow was addictive, we'd all be in meditative states 24 hours a day!
+Kerrie Redgate So you mean that you can not be addicted to something you can not say "Wow, I am really doing this" ?
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Genuine Flow states are not addictive in any way. Focus is not addictive. We become addicted to things that focus on our experience of ourselves. In a true Flow state, the self disappears. I believe sports involve training limbic brain habits connected to the motor cortex, both involving muscle memory. It may look like Flow, but I think it's more limbic system related. That's my opinion from my own experience and working with people. I'm just saying, a lot is being concluded here, where there are other explanations to be explored.
+Kerrie Redgate I think flow state is highly additive =)
We say 'WOW' when our current state of consciousness is better than the Previous one.So how do we know that we are in a more pleasant state I think our awareness let us measure that.With next level of awareness you can measure you current state of consciousness from a different frame of reference
Midsummer light I don't think a Flow State is necessarily a pleasant or not pleasant state, as the focus on "self" disappears. It is the *task* that consumes the mind, not anything about our feelings toward it in the moment.
@Khary @Faraday
Where are the Numenta neuroscience studies that looked at flow? They dont seem to exist anywhere.
I think Dr. John F. Demartini can hugely assist in the further understanding of this and maybe correct/edit/modify some of the understandings of this and missing insights or incomplete concepts of all this intrinsic motivation, as well as further confirm certain assumptions on this. Also Dr. Joe Dispenza will inevitably add insights to this Flow state, as he works with it with many people, often. Also, Theta brain waves can be trained to get in to without decades of meditation experience, as Vishen Lakhiani and others would demonstrate.
@54:25 is that guy showing them the finger ?
51:52 that's familiar. happens to me all the time. OCD-like behavior
i would like to hear someone talk on this subject and relate it to something more substantial than surfing.
We are all trying to look for solutions and fixed from outside, or physical / chemical descriptions . . . One simple way is probably to just involve yourself with what you are doing. Is that so difficult?
53:44 Steven Kotler's eyes lol
TheGerogero wow that just made my morning!! xD
This is the kind of thing I miss when I just listen to audio
He looks cute!
so this is why sharp brains also love adventure sports.
No, this is a sophism. People who love adventure sports might have/develop sharp brains, but this doesn't necessarily mean that all sharp brains also love adventure sports. That's not a proven fact and I don't think that this is the purpose of this speech to prove that.
I'd like to know about beet jucie effect, it should be raw ? Powder beet will work same way ?
This is super interesting and all.. but did someone fart at 11:00?
Too funny. Replayed about 5 times and gets funnier!
@@tribanercorporation1116 Hahahah
I imagine a chair scratching the floor so I wouldn't be distracted to laugh
The term for fire flow artists is "Seeing the matrix" :)
The Indians call the flow state ¨samadhi¨.
I want to know the connection between flow and faith, the brain and the heart ??
good!
I realize what levels of people emotions mentally they were dealing with we need guides you're introducing this information where people will introduce you to others we need guides
Fascinating!
It has so been called being in " The Zone "
Deliberate practice.
flow is present in all our lives...
the implications of all this are stagering... to say the least
I've had a terminal prognosis from over a dozen doctors - from the time I was a baby and into my 30's - I love hearing these stories from those who defied the prognosis of doctors.
Interesting theory. Could also explain why video games are addicting because they can induce an artificial flow
My mood stabilizers hurt my nerves. The location on my body changes tho
Malcolm Gladwell said the 10,000 hours thing is a myth. Go listen to him on Freakonomics.
redlunch well that wasn't really his argument, more of an example to help bring home the 50% example.
YES!!! for once google is way behind the curve on this, Numenta has already been working on this and explained the neuroscience and described the phenomena 5 years ago.
Numenta has been focusing mainly on computing and artificial intelligence, not flow psychology or heightened states of awareness.
As for who's behind the curve, Csikszentmihalyi described the phenomenon as far back as '75.
As I said, Numenta described the underlying neuroscience behind this, which is far more nuanced than what was described here that involves the research you mentioned. As for Csikszentmihalyi, I saw his TED talk and reviewed as much of his work as I could find about 3 years ago, he does nothing but articulate the phenomenon and nothing to explain the underlying causality or biology that defines it.
Khary Robertson Would be interesting to have a look at Numenta's flow research.. that is, if you can find it.
It would be awesome if you weren't a troll and learned to use the internet.
Khary Robertson
Trolling is not the issue. The issue is where can we find the link for the research you claim was done by Numenta that proves google is supposedly behind the curve on this one? or did you just invent it all in your head?
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For some reasons I got a headache watching at this video. I thought it to be normal until I realized watching something else or looking away stops the pain. Very odd, I think it's got to do with the colors.
can flow be used during exams ?
I thought about this on hearing about flow. I once had an exam, I had studied for. As I waited to start I could not remember a thing. I said to myself, that I had the knowledge, and just pick up the pen. 1.5 hrs later, i walked out of the 2hr exam. To this day have no idea what the content if the exam was. I got a high distinction. I think this was flow...?
reminds me of robert downing jr in iron man