Chinese Engineers MAD?! - 134 VOLT Electric Wheel Teardown
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- Begode Master Teardown! What's inside? Let's find out!
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I'm absolutely loving the teardowns
Awesome teardown video Adam! Thanks so much for going through the hassle of doing it! They’re not the most fun to do but they’re very helpful for potential buyers to know what they’re getting themselves when ordering a wheel they most likely not getting to see in person before buying.
Any plans on doing one for the EX20S? I know we haven’t reached 2k likes on the, “Emperor” early review video yet but I’ve been liking on as many accounts as I can to get you there to do a comparison video with the master lol 😂
Thank you! Yes that’s why I do those videos! There will be a Ex20 Teardown for sure! Maybe I can make the Begode suspension trifecta comparison 🤔
Wow...almost all the new wheels are pure $hit! More than $3.000.00, and the quality seems really bad. I was waiting for the S20 and the Master to buy my second wheel after 9.000km on my first wheel, V10f. I guess I will buy an used Sherman or the EXN. I can't afford to buy many wheels, so I need something reliable.
I would say my Gotway MS3V is the most reliable wheel I have ever owned - 3000 miles / 5 years and still going strong. I will trust those guys again with this one, and don't mind finishing off their job for them with some adhesive metal plating for batteries, tape on the screws there, silicon round the control board and velcro on the pads. I think they spent the money where it counts - quality mainframe metalwork, suspension, sliders, motor and power.
'nuther vote for the sherman here. I've had it for 4000 miles and its runs great. I did crash at 30mph and the guards got messed up. I replaced the front one and the wheel just keeps on working. Its the toyota of eucs. Maybe later we will see the terrorists rolling around with them with ak 47s on their hands 😆
@@Gideon-300 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay new rider but extensive research and experience taking an MSX apart. I totally agree with you and I didn’t think of sticky metal on battery covers, I almost reached out to a friend to 3d print new battery covers lol. This will be a nicer solution. Already got the silicone, just gotta get the wheel now lol
This wheel is perfect for me! I just ride these things for fun, like my dirt bikes. I have a car to go everywhere. I never ride my wheels in the rain either.
Great teardown Adam; maybe there will be an opportunity for an enterprising company to offer more robust aftermarket battery outer boxes!
yeaah, I honestly thought they're from aluminum like on s22, but this is just unacceptable..
@@Volfas remember the the battery boxes double as the suspension slider channels so while metal they are throw aways.
Happy meal quality - accurate and hilarious 😂😂
Thanks Adam I was truly looking forward to a Master tear down 👍🏾
Lowe these teardown videos! Exposing all the details hiding within to everyone, one feature I would love is to see is the individual cell voltage, it would give me peace of mind to see all the cells being equal and balanced. Planning on doing a review on the new Sherman max? :)
Adam I lerned to use euc basically from you, ¨thanks my friend!¨. now I feel the freedom from cars, traffic, I save time and money, is just perfect! please make a comment or video about Begode master 4 with all the upgrades. ¨the metal batterie case, 36 musfets, new upgraded suspension, smart bms, 50S samsung batteries etc and the Begode app update for more speed finally the price that seems to be inexpensive compared to other wheels. thanks for your great videos and work!
good job, Adam. love the teardown videos.
Thanks for the teardown. Waiting for the final results. Last week I sold my motorcycle :) Now I am waiting, If i have too i will even wait for the next season.
I’m waiting too. Good choice.
Glad u are back again! Wanted to get into EUC-riding (or flying...or faceplanting) xD your content is just the go to address to learn something about EUCs
Thanks for your work Adam, would love to see more videos of stunts and skillful riding like you used to do before !
Thanks! Will do!
Nice breakdown
Thank you for this, I was waiting for someone to do teardown on master. This wheel was on top of my consideration list, because I had some hope that Begode finally made a quality euc, but looks like they still dont give a crap.
So glad the battery case design is that simple. It can be easily remade from ALU or STEEL sheet. Steel is cheaper and can direct battery fires downward to protect the other parts of the wheel.
Thanks for this! You're doing a great service for the community here.
I have my Master now so backtracking into your video catalog here to find the Master tear down. Happy generally, I'm still on the CST knobbly tyre (27psi) but I have a Michelin City Extra sitting in the wings waiting to go on when I want. My machine is a v3 so I have the parallel battery packs and I think the suspension geometry a little different as well because I only have to pump the shock to 200lb to accommodate my 83kg. The charge port board and a little dc/dc converter board has been changed out by the dealer but otherwise up and running.
Both a biker and a wheeler, and lover of both. They don't serve the same usage imo, yup, you can be faster than a 125cc on a stop and go, but I wouldn't battle a bigger bike or I wouldn't compare it on long range - high speed. Those are just 2 wonders that are way too different.
Still, back to the topic, thanks again for those videos monsieur Wrong Way !
yep I've got a yamaha fz-09 goes 0-100kph in 3 seconds. 0-160kph in 6 seconds. It is a monster that I use to get on the freeway to go long distances. For store runs I take my sherman. I've tried the motorcycle brotherly wave from my euc and I don't get the wave from the motorcycle riders.
@@Gideon-300 I've got the wave from a few. Don't worry when riding a bike they don't all wave either. Some don't see you, some think it's weird, and some are assholes. Lol
as long as you ride in some way that's all that matters. i mean i ride and love both. and when i've rote the bigger, faster wheels with bigger tires (monster pro, master pro, v13, which I own since late 2023) the bikes start to notice more
appreciate the teardown
Really glad you do vids like this, even though I stopped watching after the hot charging ports. That's not your fault. I just don't have any interest in low quality fire bombs. Keep up the good work!
Looking and looking and looking for my first EUC. Pros, cons, reliability, safety, specs, uses… all found on your channel. I’m taking copious amount of notes. Thank you.
Warning everyone ! At 9:57 where Adam is speculating that the bearing seals will probably be fine in wet weather. He's wrong ! Just 1 week into riding mine I got caught in torrential storm after which my wheel started grinding, and clunking, and is looking 99% like being the bearings at fault. I am working on their replacement.
Absolutely bloody superb video, and the first decent tire change one - great job - now if only mine would get here !! :)
Begode is doing just fine with safety IMO. Cutouts and firmware problems are a riders biggest safety risk and Begode has that dialed in from my experience.
That’s true 👍 battery problems are another thing though as tons of wheels with 900Wh LG packs still keep exploding every once in a while. Quality out of factory also varies with not well connected electronics and various other issues.
@@mr_wrongway Very good point. It's all risk management. I can prepare for a potential fire but there's no real prep for cutouts and buggy firmware. Be safe with all those wheels in your place and thanks for all the info/vids.
@@matf4505 I understand the positivity, but for 3000€, this cannot count as an excuse for Begode. Just put safer Samsung batteries in all your wheels, Begode.
thank you Adam for your disassembly tip to change the tire! I have just received my Shinko tire and I will therefore use your method, which seems the easiest to me, to change my tire!
12:25 it is not a seal, it is used to prevent a wire from destroying its insulation on that sharp peace of metal
💪 Keep flexing on those motorcyclists, one day we'll get them on the highway too!
20 years laterrrrrrr…………
Yeah keep flexing and get banned... great logic !
Nah, there might be no need for 200kph EUCs really as they might be about as bulky as sportbikes but look at the industry 20 years ago, or right... EUC industry is only about 8 years old
lol
@@EdLrandom Yeah, in the future we'll probably leave those speeds to autonomous vehicles, and plug to them our EUCs to charge in the meantime.
wow, first time I watched something explaining those things
Although you have not reviewed the molicel version, would you opt for the molicel or the standard Master? Thanks for the detailed break down on my future wheel.
Very informative as always, begode is a kindergarten IMHO. I'm waiting for v13
Is it going to be announced in July?
begode is not a kindergarten, just their safety compliances engineers are still in kindergarten :D
@@valherru If you wish...
@@FinnBjerke I wish V13 :)
@Finn Bjerke I like your comments, man.
thanks for this video your awesome keep up being the blessing that you are, awesome channel!
Gotway/Begode sure has come a long way from their Msuper and Tesla v1 QC. It looks like there are actual engineers working there now. 😋
idk about that, they dont seem to fix simple issues that have been pointed out on their previous wheels.
The big caps should have some hot glue too
Realy really want a hero teardown, or at least to know if it's better sealed than this
Great explainer video! The better quality build is the Sherman? How about the Commander?
Gret teardown! Guess I have to wait another year for finally a high quality euc :D
What was the mx power draw you recorded with the Master?
Great adam thats what we sre waiting for 😀
Excellent video Adam. Continue this route. These constructive criticism videos push Begode & comp, to improve the quality and reliability of these wheels. “The other breed” is pushing just for performance in the sunshine. Don’t worry about jealous critical comments towards you, of the Begode fanboys gang who praise one another in their videos and comments. Begode is pushing some serious fuel in their asses. That’s why these wheels become so expensive.
I gave you a like and a subscribe just because you dragged off an ICE bike on a one wheel. Nicely Done. Stay Classy 👍
looks fun
Please what app do you use for measuring the Distance and speed Etc..?
Nice dude!
I see it’s clickable!
Oh yeah, that's a much easier tire change than that pogo-stick of a wheel, the V11. I just changed my V11 recently, got it all back together and now the bearings are making a noise and it's making clunking noises. Guess I get to take it all apart again. Fun. No, not fun at all.
When you examine the physical dimensions of the components that define a charger, you will notice that the actual needed parts are much much smaller than typical charger for durability reasons.
I realize that its possible to borrow from elements of physics, such as to design a charger that is structurally embedded within the framework of the vehicle, thus preventing the separation of charger and vehicle yet also able to repair if needed to.
A lighterweight more logically designed vehicle, as innovation would be the prime mover.
You could have a simple cable you pull from the vehicle frame much like vacuum cleaners have had built into them for many years that seem to last if theyre designed to.
For that matter, a 2ndary solar skin could be a type of vehicle self healing wrap to make sure they can do proper BMS battery tuning for longevity and performance.
I like how you noticed that tape > silicone
Hello,
can you please advise where can I buy a begode battery 3600 wh 100v
OMG... was looking at this wheel or the Sherman Max... Looks like Sherman Max it is... Wish those battery covers were at least aluminum 🙁 Looks like the build quality is the Achilles heel for this wheel
They improved it a lot in the later versions, including metal battery casing.
I just ordered a begode master, but i don't trust those battery boxes.
Could someone tell me the dimensions of the battery pack so i can make some waterproof boxes from aluminium?
If the king song didn't have that throw away suspension sliders/battery case, it would be a winner. It's a shame they took a short cut on that.
Thanks!
Thank you! 🙏🏻
Lots are claiming master still best out there...
Range test ! I hear the master has a very bad range!
R&D Begode has… I laughed a lot.
Maybe stupid question, but those 4 plugs ports look a lot like the 84v Gotway plugs.. what would happen if someone mistakes their chargers??
A lot of "screws" man. Scrow it 😂
Totally 😂
Funny my message about wanting IP-rating, safe charging connector, intelligent BMS on ALL brands of EUC:s seem to have been refused.
Not 'more easy' but 'easier'.
(Your Inglish is admirable, and much better than my Polish, which is non- existent.)
🤘🤙🧡
For a wheel of this price/speed not to have waterproofing is probably the most unacceptable thing to begin with (although this wheel is incredibly unsafe).
Imagine a car you could not use under the rain… if you have to go home, rain or not, you have to go and you have to be safe with this.
Begode is really the company that should not exist among euc manufacturers.. And I say that having owned couple Begode wheels…
Great comment, just, I don’t want them gone, only to improve materials quality and waterproofing.
@@danmano478 I’d love to see them improve on that too, but I honestly doubt it’ll ever happen as proofed by the little amount of knowledge and the low cost of placing failsafes such as mere tape, fuse, and other logical things to do in exposed electronics. So at that point it is just that they consider no value is added for their sales and thus choose not to do it. So to me they are just unworthy of a rider’s attention the moment they disregard safety. Plus their after sale service is just insulting from my records.
@@yuan-jia Unfortunately, I think you’re right. I just wanted to give them one more chance, in my mind, for the performance they produce.
The best way for any company to improve is for us, the consumers, to stop buying
Easy Begode replacement if enough people complain. Not really an issue. Great design and performance otherwise.
Moral: Don’t buy the first batch, or you lose.
5:07 as you said that kickstand is not sturdy, just by a quick look I can see that they messed up the construction. The crossbeams are in incorrect orientation.
Anyway the control board packaging, and battery assembly is a mess. No waterprooofing and quite useless usage of seals. Even the capacitors are just left hanging without any support from glue. I need to stay that I am stunned in a bad way. The quality is not there.
Miało być kołem na przyszły rok. Ten zacząłem od nikoli plus. Jak tak dalej będzie z tymi nowinkami to się skończy na sherman max. Pozdro.
Gratuluje! Z pewnością Shermax jest jednym z najbezpieczniejszych wyborów
no matter how good a begode wheel is i would never even think about buying one unless they seriously increase the safety measures in their wheels.
Safe choice!
Good thinking, man. I’m doing the same. Ultimately, I think I’ll buy a 16X, or a Sherman Max, if I can pass the weight mental barrier.
@@danmano478 sweet, finally going to buy your first wheel. 👍
ALERT! Chinese minion with Anglo-Saxon name spotted: “noel leonard”.
What happened with the KSs22 yoiu mention at 20:40 ?
nice begode SLOWLY evolving.....
A snail evolves faster.
Those paper thin crumbly battery cases are totally unacceptable at that price.
happy meal quality?! bahahahahahhahah thanks Adam XD
This wheel does not look like it will last.
For sure.
Can I have link to michalan city pro. Thx
Ok adam - so what is that white wire in battery pack ?
You would really benefit in trustworthiness if you have an electronic engineering help you and give his/hers opinion on the electronics.
0:48 mph?
Can we fast charge it? And with that I mean 2x8amp for example 😉
I forgot to ask. I’ll do it!
Begode has said you can charge the Master at up to 10A.
@@olsonjus okay thank you
I want one of these so badly but I am going to wait until they hit the quality of mountain bikes. They’re so cool but still for a few k so janky kind of : /
Crazy Hamsters!!! What a great truth! Hahahahaha...
Was that mph or kmh?
When he was racing the motorcycle, he hit 60+ which was kph
Kph
When your being charged 3-5k for a wheel you expect some trust that its going to last.
EV companies really need to start taking more precautions for batteries before the government decides to get involved.
Begode, it’s a single wheel with no structural stability beyond its motor; please take quality and safety seriously.
EXACTLY!
Great comment from a customer, not from a Begode “lollipop sucker”, wannabe CZcams creator, how you see a lot over Atlantic.
Hi What is the new tire brand and size please? Michelin City Pro 2.75-18? Can you put a link for it? thank you.
Comment :)
Response! Thanks you ☺️
ALWAYS PUT THE PLUG IN THE CHARGING PORT FIRST!!!!! THEN THE WALL PLUG.
Really?? I've been plugging into the wall outlet first for over a year. Because I used to do wall outlet second and wall outlet sparked. I'm confused and concerned
@@coolatta75 ONE DAY YOUR GOING TO BE FIDDLING AROUND WITH THAT FIVE PIN PLUG OUTLET PLUGGED IN FIRST AND YOU WILL FIND OUT. ANOTHER THING: PUT A SCRIBE LINE ON TOP OF YOUR PIN PLUG OR A MAGIC MARKER LINE ON TOP, THIS WAY YOU HIT THE MARK OF THE PINS EVERY TIME, THEN PLUG IN THE WALL SOCKET.
@@LAUS-DEO-HAWAII Great tips. Thank you 👍
I've been so on the edge to buy a Master or S22 to replace my V11, but something about them just hasnt hit me right. Maybe its the build quality, the feeling that either way you are compromising, I just dont know. Then I found out the InMotion V13 Raptor is on the way and I am going to hold out for that one, as if its anywhere near as good as the V11 it will be my next wheel for years to come.
Lets create a type of coral, a bone density for structural use of a vehicle. This can then be grafted to the shin bones, and we can evolve and no longer need to walk around like primative very basic humans.
We can even make the surgically grafted vehicle to run off the sugars from our blood cells, and it can regrow tire tread with a variant of calcified organic material such as how our finger and toenails and hair are able to.
Not only that, we should make it self driving, so you dont even have to be cognitively aware of your surroundings, the vehicle will simply get you were you want to go and without the side effects of accidents. Speaking of accidents, they just overturned row vs wade like a bunch of dangerous meatheads that claim to have a real invisible friend.
First
CST 186 is a great tire though! You just have to deflate it a bit in order to cancel the gyroscope effect… Mine is currently around 19PSI and I weigh 65KG.
Merci !
Ayo Herve! Thanks so much for the SuperThanks!
1st
under 1000us to manufacture
Under $750 a peice I bet for them to manufacture
Play master of puppets again
14:31.. 8S4P seriously? should be 32S1P as 1 P wires much less in thickness.. would be surprised if did so stupid
Begode riders reasoning about buying a literally naked wheel made of cardboard with exposed wires : " EZ bro just be GM and don't fall 5head!"
Z innej beczki: co to za miejsce w 1:55?
If it wasn’t for the Chinese, you wouldn’t know what a electric unicycle is but yet still you spend time trying to diss the Chinese engineers. Why don’t you and that country where you are from, design and put out electric unicycle???? Huh???
Why don’t YOU and that country where you are from, design and put out electric unicycle? Constructive criticism is good for progress. American style ass kissing in the hope of a yellow lollipop in your mouths, doesn’t help the general public, neither the evolution of these vehicles. You American Begode fanboys, have been praised for years Begode wheels and we all saw the results: same unsafe batteries, same bad waterproofing, same flimsy shells. Just small improvements over years, and that because of these constructive criticisms, not because of “the other breed”.
True. I live in the US and the only thing we can make here is whoopy.
Well just look at the nami viper its 80% chance u get a peice of shitt scooter
Chinese ed engine lol everything Chinese.. just because put together in different countries dosen't make not Chinese..
you work too hard
250 to 500 Ukraine soldiers lost a day :(
Well ... they wanted a war against Russia ... they got one.
All engineers are i...s.