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YouTuber SUED For $7 Million by Bungie | Asmongold Reacts to YongYea
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- čas přidán 27. 06. 2022
- Asmongold Reacts to a CZcamsr being sued for $7.6 million by Bungie.. Or was it really Bungie?
Original Video: Destiny 2 CZcamsr Sued For $7.6 Million After Abusing Copyright While Impersonating Bungie by YongYea
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Creators affected by this guys revenge plot should sue CZcams for their incompetence to provide basic protections to its users. It’s ridiculous
One day we’ll see that. On that day, CZcams will start getting their shit together.
@@radicalindividual7774 Why would they sue Bungie? The whole point of this is that it *wasn't* Bungie doing the takedowns.
@@Hollyclown I can actually see that happening imo CZcams can only take so much legal cases, especially if the problem is on them.
An DMCA system will never be immune to misuse. It practically impossible to confirm if someone is the real copyright holder or not without massive amount of manual labor.
Unfortunately that's kinda tough because it's still civilian vs trillion dollar company
CZcams: *does nothing about copyright abusers*
Bungie: “Fine. I’ll do it myself.”
Meanwhile Bungie sued Martin O'Donell (Halo's main composer and sound director) while he created the sountracks for the first Destiny
@@ShamSoap Yeah cause he broke the contract that he had with them
@@ShamSoap He broke a contract he acepted in the first place.
Funny cause its true
@@pandapo7542 yeah the fat rat thing was soo stupid imagine making a song and getting slapped by YT nope that is not your song.
The fact this BS was possible at all in the first place is a damning error on CZcamss part, but I guess that is just the name of the game for CZcams these days.
Not only that but bungie had to sue them to get information on the guy. They didn't even want to help fix the situation they created.
rip the guy but shit like his happening should be good for the platform in the long run... with their system anyone could become the sacrifice to hardcore troll huge youtube channels.
Exactly, CZcams is at fault here, they really need to change the system before it bites their ass, at that point they will not have anyone else to blame but themselves
It has nothing to do with CZcams, if they want to retain safe harbour protection they are required to take down any content immediately when they receive a DMCA request. If they do not then CZcams becomes liable for any infringement. The people at fault are the US Legislators that wrote the DMCA. The target can file a counterclaim and have the video returned automatically as well, since the dispute then can go proceed to court. In this case the rights holder is going to crush this guy since he fraudulently filed DMCA forms and seemingly did so with intent and malice.
Leonard french goes over DMCA cases all the time and does good job explaining the law if you want to listen to someone actually qualified.
Its happening everywhere else. People get copyright striked for playing a game that happens to have copyrighted music in it, be it Twitch, YT, any other platform.
Cutscenes get censored because it hurts sales and other idiotic gimmicks they pull on people. To the point not that I wont just buy your game, I wont even bother watching a playthrough, that how irrelevant your product is. So you can censor the entire game better off don't even bother creating nor releasing it, do something else with your time and money ...
It's like these companies are ran by mentally ill people who behave like edgy 4 year olds. From the CEOs to the development teams, all collectively insane ...
Come to think of it, I mean it's not that far off from reality, Naughty Dog comes to mind, soon as the company was sold the 2nd time it got a direction of insane people and with that the dev and tech team was even worse. This is just one example of many others out there. Once great companies now ran by insane people, the easiest way to describe the situation really.
One thing to note about archiving music that was taken out of the game: After this whole debacle, Bungie acknowledged that it isn't right that music could just get yeeted out of existence and put in place a system to allow people to essentially become endorsed to upload music that was taken out of the game onto CZcams for archival purposes. Their stipulations were that you had to get in touch with them via email, you couldn't monetize it, and it could no longer be available in the game or released in any of their commercial OSTs.
So they basically said "u like our game? Well, fuck you."
As much as I endorse data preservation you people have to realize also that we live in a broken system, spamming one and the same content is not helping either because we don't live on endless storage databanks. Hence why online content became heavily compressed and true 1080p is a myth lets not even talk about 4K and 6K. In some cases the data you share is useless and doesn't represent it's true form. Even a premium thing, soon as it loses tracking it gets deleted forever and even if it remains it's so compressed and destroyed it's basically just useless data.
We have to have one ID for one thing that is being shared, streamed in and not simply re-uploaded billions of times. That same space could be used up for more useful things.
@@werkgalaxy How do we determine what things are more useful?
I think I get your overall point, but there's a much larger issue entangled in your complaints, namely what is valuable to people? Aren't teachers more valuable than football players? Aren't scientists more useful than politicians? How do we determine what is good and useful?
@@HippopotamusPencil good question , the answer is obviously subjective. However I highly disagree with the endless storage banks problem. Storage is cheaper than ever with new factories to be opened up soon around the world by the top data companies. It sufficiently meets our needs. I would say the battery problem is bigger than this but do we really have a battery problem? my headset lasts 18 hours. My phone lasts for days. Do I really need it to last longer? Nah the only needs for that are for solar storage, since the sun doesn't shine all day we need that to cover the night time. Our energy requirements are mostly met by on demand consumption. Our storage does not have an on demand problem and if you even bother to check. storage is starting to go on sale to under 15 a tb and even ssds are going cheaper. they are getting rid of stock because the capability for a huge upgrade on that is already on the way. Then to answer the reason to why compression exists. Bandwidth is a thing and we have been constantly upgrading that, but its much slower to do that. First we started by using phone lines network system and that gave us 56k dial up. We have continuously improved that and now most of the world has cable internet. The next upgrade after that is fiber optic but most of the planet does not have fiber optic. Imagine if we had to suddenly uproot every powerline and replace every cable all across the country? that will take a massive amount of time and budget. Most of that cost is eaten up by the companies competing with each other as they upgrade their systems but unlimited money doesn't mean you have unlimited manpower, or even trained individuals to do this as quickly as we would like. Even getting a permit to a mine in the middle of no where can take up to 10 years, So it is not surprising that a country wide construction project would take so long even though we are still progressing at a phenomenal rate. I for one am not impatient, in fact letting technologies mature before rushing in has been beneficial to us. BTW I have about 300 tb of space , every tb is about 10 hours of 4k video. So think about it. If you wait until the sales you essentially pay for $15 for 10 hours of 4k storage. Thats not bad at all lol. Adjusting for inflation, blank cassette tapes costed more. And this is even on a price downtrend and a storage capability uptrend. The supply and demand and the data in no way reflects this guys opinions. If you pay any attention the only shortage we had so far regarding pc parts has been gpus but that was mostly due to the crypto mining trend that created alot of demand. my 2k pc i got last year is worth about 1.5k now because of how much prices are dropping.... while food and gas goes up, and seemingly everything else. Pc parts are actually going down in price. The supply is the and the demand isnt. My $300 3dprinter is now worth under $100 and that is in 1 year. Without the demand, companies like google can buy up all these drives for cheap. But again the problem is storage bandwidth. How about you try uploading 10 tb of data and tell me how many days it takes?? If our bandwidth infrastructure an truely handle this, it wouldn't take so damn long. So yes alot of data needs to be compressed to make it usable. But it also doesn't stop you from downloading things in lossless formats if you are patient enough to go that route.
Damn, that dude can’t afford his Diablo immortal upgrades now… 😂
There’s always Only Fans. 🤣
Let’s be honest though, 7 mil probably still wasn’t enough to max gear.
@@MrDarkcore HAHAHAHAA
Imagine thinking they're going to get anywhere near that amount, bet this won't even go to court, especially if he lives outside the US, Bungie should be suing CZcams for having such a corrupt and broken system, not some lowly youtube creator who probably lives off a fixed income and they probably won't get anything from.
He didn't even need to make himself look legit. You can literally copyright strike anyone on behalf of anyone without having any connections to the actual copyright holder. CZcams is 100% garbage on this. CZcams does not require any proof at all what so ever that the person issuing the copyright strike owns the copyright. Which allows trolls to copyright strike the actual owner of the copyright. It happens to smaller musicians on youtube all the time.
Fraudulent DMCA takedown are a rather severe federal crime in the US. So really the threat of retaliation is the deterant.
@@nevoyu But that involves finding the person which guess what the only way Bungie got the person information was by sue CZcams.
@@kraigisboss It is my understanding that this is how you get the info of whoever is miss using the system, if you proceed to sue YT gives you the info however most content creators really just do not have the money to take this into court, this guy just happened to target a company who has both money and lawyers so it can actually go through the process.
Not just copyright strikes. For example, Pewdiepies music videoes are all copyright claimed by someone pretending to be Pewdiepie... Like how does that happen.
@@nevoyu It's not really deterring them though.
Fun fact about this guy, his email was found in a list for one of the cheat sites that got sued by Bungie. He literally is the worst thing to happen to the Destiny Community.
And u would think he uses his real email i can sign your email up for some gay ass newsletter what would that prove
The Destiny community is one of the worst things to happen to itself, lol. Never seen so much drama and crazy stuff between content creators before in any game. Then you have the whole thing with Saynotorage, just insane what that "community" does to itself.
@@TeKnoVKNG23 Resident Evil, GTA, Skyrim, Sims, there are millions of titles to name. All got a drastic change and with that a toxic community.
Modern day gaming itself is dead and the online community is not helping it either.
One example :
REverse is not even released and it already have 60%, 80% discounts, even the idiots don't want it any more, not to talk about their original community who abandoned them almost 20 years ago now. People left and right online praise the upcoming RE4 Remake, reality is 5% tops will only buy it, the other numbers will be promo free copies to reviewers and fake fan community who will not even bother playing the game, they will slice up one generic premade video, talk over it, monetize the s--t out of it and move on to the next thing. After that they will sell 1$ - 5$ sales to compulsive hoarders and that is it.
Same thing happened with RE5 back in a day, it was sold for 1 euro, bundled with bunch of things, with other better games even given away for free, later some idiot brags it sold 10+ mil copies, AND?! it didn't brought back the investments of development, company upkeep costs and millions of wasted money spent on promos.
I can write thousands of bibles on this what is all wrong with the things we get and how it's operated.
We need a hard reset in everything and start over. Make great content again and we will have a healthier community too.
@@TeKnoVKNG23 ya everyone acts like they the best use the best and nothings better than there loadouts shits hillarious
@@TeKnoVKNG23 You got the right idea, Destiny community is toxic to a weird place that everyone love the game but alaways meme on it and it makes a lot minor players thinks Destiny actually bad. Bungie is not even on the top 10 worst gaming company out there but somehow wveryone just hate it.
the best thing is not mentioned in this video, youtube actually defended him and gave bungie info about him only after bungie won lawsuit against youtube, so same situation as with quantum
Nahhh, that wasn't the best part. This guuy was commenting in bungie's twitter comment acting like a fanboy of bungie. He wwas like "i knew you guys wouldn't dmca people" when it was him all along.
@@Sage16226
he even partaked in a effort to find himself in a private discord server with other creators.
@@NuclearRaven13 he was literally Playing irl amogus
This villain arc goes hard af. What a mad lad.
@@TheSnyarn "Its about sending a message" Dude just martyred himself.
@@Joseph-ic8xd and failed to martyr himself because no one will care about them after
@@soupgirl1871 idk seems like this is creating a lot of waves rn. Good portion of people here think he did it for the greater good too. Unironically.
This a anime fr man
13:00 this just happened to me, by another guy, claiming to be Microsoft Corporation... my top performing video was taken down in addition to a copyright strike. i'm tired of CZcams
Hey Phuzzy!
Lets hope some good changes come from big companies pushing back against youtube.
Love your youtube videos phuzzy! They made me a better pirate, and made me enjoy the game more in general.
Google should also be held responsible for this and any damages to all the creators as well.
This should be emphisised more, Google bought YT a long time ago, now it is just one of their branch.
Should, but won’t.
I feel like all CZcams needs is a "Verified Copyright Holder" option that copyright holders need to file for. They need to prove they hold copyright to that content, and they need to be the ones who file for said copyright issues. CZcams will then ignore any and all copyright related issues to those who do not have that filing completed. I might be naïve to the way it works, but I can't believe this has gone on for so damn long without some form of attempt to fix it.
Do you realize how many things can be copyrighted? As an example, I own the copyright to photos that I take, whether I publish them or not. So, if I go on vacation to Yosemite and use a modern Digital Camera to take photos, then all of the photos that I take are technically copyrighted to me. I don't have to file anything. I don't have to register my copyright (although I could, it is not required). Inherently, when I take the photo, I am afforded some copyright protections. With a modern digital camera, I could reasonably take 5000 photos a day (Modern Mirrorless cameras can shoot 20FPS in burst mode). If my trip is 5 days, that is 25,000 photos, each of which is a separate copyright to me. All of those raw photos are protected by copyright and if any one of them were to end up posted by someone else without my permission, I could theoretically submit a DMCA Takedown Request to try to get them removed. So, how exactly does a database function to keep track of all 25000 copyrights that I own from my 5 day trip to Yosemite as a hobby photographer? And if I decided to start editing my photos, it gets even more insane. Because, technically, every single edit that I make is a separate copyright protected item. So, if I have a few Lightroom preset filters to make a B&W version, a Sepia version, a High Saturation version, and a Low Saturation version, then every single different version is theoretically a separate copyright. And I could theoretically apply each of those filters for ALL 25000 of my photos and it would probably take me less than 10 minutes do so with Adobe Lightroom.. So, my 25000 photos is suddenly 125000 different copyright protected images (the 25000 raw photos and then the 100000 edited photos). How do I go about ensuring that all of my photos are protected? Do I have to file for 125000 copyrights? Is my copyright invalidated because I didn't go through that process?
TLDR; you are naïve.
@@morkins3243You are correct and I do like the example you provide. Pretty much anything you create for your use is automatically copyrighted upon its creation. This does include, but not limited to, papers, letters, manuscripts, pictures, and videos. As long it is not in the capacity of creating something for your job/place of employment (i.e. taking a picturefor Vogue magazine or an article for NYT), copyright belongs to you, at least in the U.S.
That doesn't even get into Fair Use. People do forget that Fair Use is a legal defense that is defined in the courts and not an automatic thing in law. The courts have been defining and narrowing down what Fair Use means.
This gets even more complicated when you add international copyright laws. Other countries outside the U.S. may not have Fair Use exceptions. That's why Japanese companies, like Nintendo, can go after CZcams creators since they do not have Fair Use exceptions. You not only have to deal with domestic laws, but also international laws on top of it.
Copyright is an extremely complicated issue. I am not saying CZcams copyright claim is system is not an issue. It certainly is and as we see is easily exploited. But, you cannot just have the solution of "provide proof of copyright" since, again, anything you create has automatic copyright status without filing for it.
The fact that in the U.S., the DCMA laws have not been seriously updated since its inception since 1999 doesn't help matters.
@@matthewmayton1845 While I think DMCA should perhaps be re-examined and updated, I also do not know if I can actually even conceptualize any changes that would improve it without breaking it in different ways. I think the most reasonable change that has been suggested is a codified "Small Claims Court" to handle arbitration of copyright disputes without such a massive legal expenditure. But even that has it's issues. Beyond that, any ideas for changes to the law that I can think of have consequence that create new problems that are just as severe as the problems under the current law...
everything ever uploaded to CZcams has Copyright protection have fun plus YT is required by law if informed by a copyright holder to remove sth to remove that thing regardless of if the copy right holder wants to verify himself since he is being inconvienced by Yt and the uploader ...
@@morkins3243 True. I'm just pointing out a law passed 20+ years ago and not significantly updated for the digital realm that wasn't even feasible then is an issue (have to somewhat deal with this at work). Like we both pointed out, copyright and verification is not as simple of an issue nor does it have as simple of a solution as the original poster seems to suggest.
When Bungie succeeds with this case(which is certain), I hope this forces CZcams to finally do its job and ruin that Quantum TV bastard
He's not a US resident. Nothing is going to happen
I wish he talked about the part where bungie was stuck in a loop trying to get contact with CZcams support over this lol
I hope QuantumTV gets the same treatment tbh
Actman is dropping at a lawyers house 100 times to see how his skills get better
he won't.
No no no, the party at fault here is CZcams for allowing this mess to happen.
All the youtube creators who were wrongfully harmed should get together and sue CZcams for damages to their earnings.
The youtube creators and bungie have to party up and begin a class action lawsuit againts youtube for not doing their proper due diligence. Sue youtube for over 1 trillion dollars and have the earnings divided amongs all the youtubers who had copywrite strikes/ and or bans.
Make youtube pay for once.
Thank the kid, he did everyone a favour
100 percent yes.
The fault of that dude is that he impersonated Bungie.
@@63Limar its not so hard for youtube to verify his legitimacy.
The one that had the axe is youtube and they used it to slaughter countless of innoncent content creators.
CZcams makes money off content creators.... even when they’re demonetized.
This guy is a hero and we should all protect him.
@@Fuzzycat16 No he should not because if CZcams had an ok system it wouldnt have happend, the only thing he should pay for is have his youtube account deactivated thats all
@@Fuzzycat16 Yep i agree he deserves to not have access to CZcams any more.
CZcams is the one that collected the funds so any type of monetary issue has to be directed towards youtube.
Despite all the bs this guy pulled, he did prove his point. The system is broken and a moron with a throwaway account can take down all the content he wants and impersonate whoever he wants.
Yep. And that was among the outspoken criticisms of the system when it first appeared. It's been a problem the whole time, but this made it clear for a lot more people.
Not about the money, it's about sending a message
the destiny 2 community is pretty close nit for the most part and I honestly never heard of this person before today
They had an entire TWAB going over the lawsuit, I'm surprised you haven't heard.
Must not be that close knit
@Medio2507 it's in the top 10 most played game on steam almost all the time. Rn it's 6th place. Pretty big game.
@@Brown614 Yup. 1 million concurrent when taking into account all platforms I think
@@AnyHeroBlake or this person is a nobody?
0:40 I was so happy when chat instantly said Atlus and Persona, still bs Faz nearly lost his channel for posting early videos of Strikers, a game that had been out for over a year in Japan at that point
copyright laws are different in japan vs states. stop talking out of your ass and do your reaearch
Thousands of years ago, a man entered a market and protested, throwing merchant's goods in the street, and openly criticizing the roman empire.
Today, our resurrected savior has taken a different approach.
“All it takes to go insane is just a little criticism”
-Lord Nazo
That man losing his YT channel was his Falling Down moment , the trigger that started the war.
all the hate should be towards CZcams for even allowing it to be that easy, man's literally just created an email and that's it
its easier than that dude went the extra mile for nothing
Not all blame, just because you can do something dosn't mean you should. But yes, CZcams can do alot more to protect the creators.
it really is telling when a company like Bungie is going through so much BS to get anything from youtube support, like what moistcritikal said, Bungie had to go through what every other youtuber has to go through when it comes to this
They deserve it.
Glad that Bungie is taking a stance against copyright abuse on CZcams.
yeah, no this is retaliation for reputation damage, honestly this whole thing is stupid and broken.
me to
As a Destiny player, this is the most sane Destiny player.
This is just the average destiny player response when they don’t get the raid weapon after their 3 weekly runs
@@HexCypherr >300+ vog runs
>still no mythoclast
@@ali18y84 My buddy eric gets it every run
@@ali18y84 have you tried doing more optimal dps?
@@HexCypherr yeah cuz more dps = higher drop chance
"The hardest choices require the strongest wills." - Thanos
If Bungie manages to create a court precedent maybe Act Man might finally get his redemption
Redemption is someobe making up for bad things they done in the past. Act did nothing wrong. So redemption is wrong word to use here.
@@Jaksio Avengement is the perfect word. Also unfortunately, genuine precedence requires an official opinion written. From what I believe it doesn't happen often with civil suits.
@@Jaksio Underdog comeback maybe. But still. Actman needs precedent from something as big as Bungie dropping the hammer for him to do something
@@Jaksio Act here is more akin to Nazo than Bungie. We all know that Act was being sarcastic and he wouldn't seriously dox youtube employees and all what was said, but if you think about it as if Act was worker inside of a company: Person A did something evil and wrong and person B was against it, but since the company did nothing against person A, then person B started shit talking the company and joking about being a danger for the company, which is something the company can't prove he wouldn't do, so the company decided to cut person B because B is now a threat for them. I feel sorry for Act but he fucked up big. Even as a joke you don't threat the place that pays your bills. Yt is a private company and they're in their right to decide who they ban and who they don't. Act's only hope is through YT having mercy on him, not through a court room.
...or pulling a Quantum and making another account kekw
You should watch *Griffin Gaming* 's video on the aftermath
@1:40 my man really went down to take a line whilst on stream :D
I thought you were joking lol
maybe this will inspire others, perhaps if enough big companies keep getting their own shit fake striked, youtube will be forced to actually fix this extremely harmful practice
It gonna happen soon or later
"Had to have been me, someone else might have gotten it wrong." - Mordin Solus, Mass Effect
All it took was one bad dmca.
Imagine what an entire foreign troll farm could do if they decided to do what that guy did. It's so simple that way more damage could be rampant
When being Light Yagami goes wrong or actually maybe right in the context of Death Note
the worst part, this is just a guy, a random normal guy, that does know how to even hide his ip, imagine if some trolls with IT background decide to start copyrighting everything
I’ll bet on google to find the trolls, if they want to. Essentially unlimited resources and no oversight to find what they want.
Dude is going to go down in flames. CZcams really should be sued for incompetence.
Did you all know that *that person* also has a history of visitng and using a cheat site that Bungie took down because of a destiny 2 cheat? *That person* also replied to Bungie's tweet that said *We are aware of the copyright strikes* with something like I didn't expect you guys to start doing this after 8 years and such.
It's crazy that even though the copyright system has been abused readily for the past 5-6 years youtube still refuses to do anything about it.
To defeat a devil you must become a devil. Hes channeling Arthas.
As a Destiny player, I've been following this from the start
it was insane seeing Aztecross start having to upload exclusively to his clips channel, lest he have his channel taken down, for a little bit.
Yeah man Lord Nazo’s intent to revel against dmca abuse by becoming a cyber terrorist deceiving people so coldly and crying about how his untransformative vids got taken down is what makes me firmly condemn this shitsack. Huge Aztecross fan, innocent people like that can not get affected for a broader point to be made in my opinion it is unethical and undermines everything. Like destroying random shops during a George Floyd riot…there is no defending that level of violence.
Yeah, it's so bad for CZcams that they've known how abused the Copyright system has been for years and have done absolutely nothing and will continue to do nothing. Because they don't have to do anything. And they know it. Because they have no real competition.
Actually, the copyright holders getting struck is a fairly common problem. It happens in the music scene to creators all the time. Leonard French talked about it, with examples, including his own choir videos that he had the rights to getting taken down.
It's bad. This system is so far beyond broken...
I respect it in a way. CZcams has done fuck all about DMCA abuse for 15 years. Maybe something good will come of this finally
I had a copy right strike today. It was two minutes of silence, while I was away from stream. Letting my dogs outside.
hope asmon doesn't get banned for talking about the v*ldemort of Twitch streamers.
If his goal was to prove how easy is it to abuse the system, then he sure proved his point.
He wasn't the villain we deserved but the villain we needed.
His wallet hates him now
thank you
Darn, dude went seriously balls deep! Wow. I'm not so sure I'd want my livelihood tied to youtube, but that's another issue.
It's a fact that it took a multi-million dollar company to sue a multi-billion dollar company to even put this on anybody's radar. There's no way to convince me that an individual would be able to make this impact without going through this sad process of abusing the system. Creators of their own music get DMCAs claiming to be on behalf of themselves as shown. Ridiculous. The system needs to change.
I mean like lord nazo is right. At this point, youtube definitely knows what is happening and in a platform as big and influencial as this, criticisms and free speech are being abused. We have spoken but no change is done. We have come to the point where youtube just shrugs and says 'whatvsre you gonna do about it'. Yes, it does hurt in the short term but in the end, he would have done more change than just complaining have ever done for us
This is literally the meme: "You got us in the first half, not going to lie."
What's sad.... it took Bungie themselves being directly targeted, for CZcams's Broken DMCA system to be blasted with a spotlight.
10:25 In the chat "You're honor, I'm addicted to trolling"
I call it Internet Rage...similar to Road Rage, but you are sitting at home instead of in your car, and you're feeling so safe and empowered. This is the same as the guy who rams his car into someone who cuts him off. Losing his channel sent him over the edge and he went all scorched earth. Oh, and another point, I am a vendor on Amazon, and they have something called Brand Registry. The way it works, is say you want to be the Admin for you brand, let's use Lego as an example. You would go into Brand Registry, and apply to be the moderator of Lego on Amazon.your country. Amazon would verify you via the trademark registration for your county, which has an attached email, usually going to the trademark lawyer who did the filing. That lawyer has to reply back to Amazon and approve you as the Admin/moderator for Lego. So Amazon has verification you are authorized. Clearly, CZcams didn't copy best practice here. I have said it before, you don't have to be smart, all you have to do is copy the best practices of others, and add them to your "spell book". If you do that with everything, you will be the smartest person on earth.
Sometimes you can only envision chaotic good as the solution to a growing lawful evil…
On abandonware: The simple answer is no, distributing and downloading abandonware is not legal.
Even if the creator "abandons" a copyrighted work, it does not become public property automatically. The creator may not be currently choosing to enforce their copyright, but this does not mean they can not choose to defend their copyright in the future.
Which is complete BS. It should not work this way.
I hope Bungie seeks out legal action against youtube for allowing this to happen. Theoretically i think it should be possible as youtube's shoddy system never even tried to confirm whether or not this guy actually worked for Bungie and just took him at his word. This seems like it could be a huge potential security concern.
Also, this guy might end up forcing youtube's hand to improve their copyright policy, he might legitimately be one of the best things to happen for the platform.
The scary thing is the fact that a lot of other companies don't give a shit to investigate like bungee and these frauds can keep getting away with ruining people's lives
CZcams and Google should be given a class action lawsuit for this bs lasting as long as it did.
This is the story of ultimate betrayal, CZcams made this monster and im afraid if it continues how much more worse will it get, as Asmongold said this guy is a real life Joker that put quantum tv to shame, i wonder who is next... 🤔
this guy was literally trying to create his own super youtube villian story arc , and just MAY HAVE succeeded lol
I really wonder if this guy saw the whole Act Man vs QuantumTV debacle and thought, "So there's no consequences, huh?"
I still remember when this shit happened. It was a massacre I’m not a big Destiny channel or anything but I knew a few people that got hit by this and it pretty much had the whole community on edge because we had no idea what was going on. Some videos were removed just for showing GAMEPLAY. I’m glad Bungie is doing something about this.
I don't really like how chat is calling this guy a gigachad or a hero. Was this impressive? I think so as well. But you've got to remember that he did this for "Revenge." He was willing to manipulate people around him just for his personal tantrum.
He's a gigachad until you're that person who made videos on a game constantly for years, waking up one day to a bunch of strikes, getting sympathy from a fellow content creator, and it turned out that they were the people they were complaining about.
Fact is nobody cares about the CZcamsrs bro.
CZcams should be sued for stupidity and allowing things like this to happen so easily.
CZcams should be made to take some legal responsibility for having a copyright enforcement platform that is so easily abused by a random kid to the point that said kid is able to cause millions in damages to a big company and real damages to the earnings and channels of countless small streamers on the CZcams platform.
The antihero we all needed...
the point could have been made just by striking Bungie's videos.
Like Charlie said, this guy is the diet version of Light from Death Note
0:30 somebody tell this man about Square Enix...
PepeLaugh
And you can't even challenge it. This doesn't stop at copyrights either. It's other things as well. My friend got a strike for just talking about world events and his opinion.
probably a dumb take. not everyone's voice shou;ld be heard, that's the problem with today's society. everyone thinks they have a right to speak out.
@@ember-evergarden yea, probably why you should keep your mouth shut
Honestly though Bungie and all people affected on YT should sue YT for their inability to create an actual functioning system for this.
All this proves is that randos can be DMCAing anything they want. Until they get sued by some big companies they're just refusing to put any effort or money into fixing their abusive system.
Edit: also have to report that Bungie had to hit YT with a freakin Subpoena to get the information they needed to find this guy because they have such a lazy shit system. So maybe they should just hit em with a lawsuit at this point.
Stuff like this has been happening on youtube since the beginning. The worst is when people do this to small channels that don’t have the money to defend against it.
Bungie should sue youtube for being able to let this happen
the best thing bungie has done since halo 3
The definition of
"I am not the villain in this story,"
"I do what I do because I had no choice."
i mean he could be a good sport about it and not dmca other videos
Bro didn't even use a VPN. He wants his name to go down in history.
People be like sue CZcams a yes sue a company a trillion dollar company who could just wait you out in legal fees alone
I can respect this level of dedication.
Thanks
It sucks because one of the videos that came out took over 9 months to make and had a ten thousand dollar budget only to get strikes a couple days later. If you want to check out the video it is called dynasty on my name is bfys channel.
There is a key issues that explains a lot of this stuff, Bungie works with a 3rd party to copyright stuff, this guy thought the 3rd party(the same company that he impersonated) was doing the copyright on their own. This whole insane crusade was against the third party, he tried to get Bungie to stop the third party from doing DMCAs not understanding they were doing it legally.
Honestly good. I hope this exposes youtubes shitty copyright system to the courts and somebody finally steps in and does something. Kid is an absolute chad.
Thank you Bungie, thank you for doing the right thing.
Something has to change. :/
This is wild af!!!!
CZcams should face punishment too, like how the hell does this get this far
I kinda hope this drags youtube into the case and makes them liable as well for the $7.6mil if to nothing else force them to rework the copyright system.
Bungie doesn’t fuck around. Whether you like destiny or not that’s just a fact. They will sue the shit out of you if you mess with them or their community they did it both to hack sites and now this. The game has its flaws but bungie Is possibly the worst gaming company to fuck with because they have the freedom of an indie studio with buckets of money from eververse
Kids a genius. He just did what all rich people do. Take out the competition
im telling you, start claiming every video on youtube until they have to change it
This is really problem. Happens similar to major Kpop companies and artists. For their songs some bullshit Chinese entity is registered as copywriters when Chinese entity made just entirely false claim or they made remakes. Things like these unnoticed for some time during which artist has been robbed and listeners have unawarinly listened and payed for it.
Im an avid Destiny 2 player and let me tell you, this shit rocked the community. The day it happened was like Thanos snapping and all the great music archives disappeared.
To know that it was one of those archivers who did this was like an episode of Jerry Springer. You could not make this up
bungie is mad cuz they wanna SELL the soundtrack lol its all their fault
and?
Bungie posts most their osts on CZcams for free
@@Mayadel100 and? its called greed. they're mad ppl making money off the content instead of them
@@TLO7 because its their content, youtubers that use it didn't make it and if they try to they have all the right to protect the rights of their IP
@@pooddly9637 they should just let ppl do what they want, they started this by taking down the dudes videos of uploaded music, all they had to do was claim it for revenue they didnt have to strike take down and remove his channel. I dont need ur opinion on this thanks tho
Would be interesting if Bungie and Sony takes this to court with CZcams because of it.
Something like this happened to pewdiepie, he made a song which he made dmca free so anyone can use it, and someone claimed they worked for pewdiepie and flagged some creators because of the song. Pewdiepie didn’t know but threatened to sue the “company” and thus they stopped.
He’s just doing the same thing you did with Diablo Immortal. He played the system to expose the system, not so different an idea compared to how you spent a ton of money on that cancerous shitstain of a game. Minus the negative impact on every CZcamsr he had.
The thing is I'm a long time destiny player, I don't agree with what he did but I agree that bungie deserve to be put in their place, they don't listen to us guardians. They are just disrespectful with our money and time, they sunset weapons and then a year later reskin them and reissue as a paid season (£16) the seasons are 3 months long and are time gated too much. Anything the community dislikes they double down and then apologise and expand the caps or remove the caps, almost never revert nerfs
At least they not as bad as blizzard also listen to their community
@@Raygone-Talion but why does the blizzard stuff matter when shit is happening within bungie
@@tehduff3414 because bungees better
Bro destiny has less sunsetting and less monetization and even less time gating than 99% of other mmos. The game costs $100 a year to play and access all of the content with no way to pay more money to access that content faster. If you’re complaining about paying $5 a month to access the full content about of an mmo it must be the only one you’ve ever played
I was talking only about bungie because I don't care about blizzard and the other companies as my main games are destiny and skyrim. what's wrong with not playing other mmos?
i remember FF14 had something like this happen, SE took down videos of the OST which just led to people always uploading the song with gameplay in the background that was muted to get around the system.
This happened with not only Bungie but also Battlestate Games (EFT) with illegal false copyright strikes. Truly egregious CZcams lets this happen and creators really can't do much about it.
This guy sounds like Light from Death Note. Not even his friends were safe from his evil plan
This kid is the epitome of Asmon's saying.......Fuck around and find out! He is finding out the hard way right now!
He's literally the Joker. And you can't stop, because it's an idea. There will be more.
"Garrosh, Arthas, and Lord Nazo did nothing wrong"
No justice! No peace!