Unused Objects - Sonic Adventure

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  • čas přidán 19. 10. 2017
  • Correction: Jump Panels go up to 8, not 5. Thanks Icecap, but 9 is still unused at least.
    I've wanted to do object stuff in this game for a while, but there's so many different types of "unused" object-related stuff in the game that I didn't know where to start.
    This vid covers all (AFAIK) unique objects that aren't used at all. It also covers some objects that have unused subtypes, like Jump panels. Future parts should be covering all the out of bounds and unused SET file stuff.
    Credits go to Sonic Retro for basic info about Preview's discoveries/Sky Chase screenshots, Windii for her translation work and PkR for the DLC discovery.
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Komentáře • 222

  • @sonicthefakerhedgehog8691
    @sonicthefakerhedgehog8691 Před 6 lety +406

    *Sees untextured Station Square* "Woah,looks like the Time Eater's been through this place!"

  • @THiNGYBOBinc
    @THiNGYBOBinc Před 6 lety +220

    I can't tell you how glad I am that there are people out there cataloging all the unused content from these games

    • @lugbzurg8987
      @lugbzurg8987 Před 4 lety +3

      "New" content lying in wait for a remake!

  • @huguia
    @huguia Před 6 lety +106

    It's 2017 and I still learn new stuff about this game. Marvelous.

  • @mainjp3037
    @mainjp3037 Před 6 lety +59

    About the trashcan object in the AutoDemo, it appears normally in Sonic's Speed Highway Act 3 near the beginning:
    i.imgur.com/Gf53Wma.png
    The final star panel can actually be viewed in the final game through enabling (what used to be) the Object Placement code:
    i.imgur.com/IgmVmoP.png
    i.imgur.com/yqfC5lm.png
    i.imgur.com/MW3YnLa.png
    .

    • @SPEEPSHighway
      @SPEEPSHighway  Před 6 lety +25

      Huh, I had no idea you could get that to show up. Good find.

  • @CanaldoZenny
    @CanaldoZenny Před 6 lety +38

    Man, its insane how much hidden and scraped stuff people still find in Sonic Adventure! Great job for the Sonic community again!

  • @apurpledragon
    @apurpledragon Před 5 lety +30

    I have a theory for the unised casino signs, they were most likely removed due to them looking an awful lot like real life advertisements for actual gambling, thus making them unused.

  • @toongirl007
    @toongirl007 Před 6 lety +31

    I wish the dragon stayed as a bonus sky act mini boss or something

  • @liliambean
    @liliambean Před 6 lety +92

    When you combine both versions of Item Stand, the top part looks like a regular switch!

  • @NickyCrunch
    @NickyCrunch Před 6 lety +45

    oh my god dude you just brought to light something that bothered me for YEARS
    when i was younger i remember seeing some video of big putting those keys in the slots in the hotel, and I would always to the hotel and try and do the same thing but of course, nothing would happen
    i thought maybe it was some weird hack or something but now that I know what it is that's so cool

    • @clownjoshuaguy9847
      @clownjoshuaguy9847 Před 3 lety

      Always knew they were platforms for keys, never saw any footage though, I thought that maybe if you took the windy valley and ice cap key and put them in it then it would unlock the elevator on the right of the chao garden (the one for knuckle’s chaos fight)

  • @BiolizardthePrototype
    @BiolizardthePrototype Před rokem +11

    For the Breaking Tree in the Past. It's actually not unused. There is but 1 in the Burning Past when you visit it as Sonic or Knuckles. It's directly to the right of your spawn location, next to the bridge.

  • @CatandFriends1
    @CatandFriends1 Před 6 lety +110

    i'm just curious but what would've happened if you used the jump panels while they were lined up like that

    • @edfreak9001
      @edfreak9001 Před 6 lety +27

      I think you have to set the jump arc too, otherwise Sonic would probably just sort of scoot along the buttons in order.

    • @Noxedwin
      @Noxedwin Před 4 lety +10

      ​@@edfreak9001 I don't think I've ever seen Sonic use these in an arc. It always seemed to me like he makes a beeline for the next one.
      I'm all for the idea of "just sort of scooting" along them. That sounds like it would be pretty funny.

  • @SacredFaerie
    @SacredFaerie Před 5 lety +6

    Just gonna say, I’ve been discovering so many CZcamsrs who are incredibly knowledgeable on a specific game or set of games and I’m loving it. Instant sub.

  • @derrrtee
    @derrrtee Před 6 lety +18

    6:38 tails.exe has stopped working

    • @exr879
      @exr879 Před 3 lety

      *koichipose.exe initiated*

  • @FolderBoard
    @FolderBoard Před 6 lety +11

    2:29 Nice.

  • @MangaTDZone
    @MangaTDZone Před 4 lety +6

    14:06 He looks like a Pokémon trainer ! ^^

  • @Z2Obsidion
    @Z2Obsidion Před 4 lety +5

    Man, that dragon boss could've been AWESOME

    • @BlastKetchup
      @BlastKetchup Před 4 lety +1

      Yeah! here's hoping if sega reveals a adventure remake, they include that dragon, most unlikely tho, but it would be cool

  • @Mima_the_vengeful_spirit
    @Mima_the_vengeful_spirit Před 5 lety +9

    forgot to talk about the forgotten Egg-licopter. for the curious: it is an unused object aboard the egg carrier's decks which patrols around and the adventure field clouded version also has lightning randomly striking.
    Edit: proved that there was indeed unused content aboard the egg carrier

    • @glitchedblood
      @glitchedblood Před rokem

      Are there any screenshots of the Egglicopter?

    • @Mima_the_vengeful_spirit
      @Mima_the_vengeful_spirit Před rokem

      @@glitchedblood there's even better, someone took the time to re-enable those in the game

  • @ClassicSonicSatAm
    @ClassicSonicSatAm Před 6 lety +12

    Thought you were going to mention unused Jam Spring, other then that, great video!

  • @tailsprower8118
    @tailsprower8118 Před 6 lety +4

    It's really cool to learn about new things in a game from 19 years ago

  • @okeokedu3281
    @okeokedu3281 Před 6 lety +82

    I like how you used the unused loading jingles on your video. That's a nice touch.
    By the way, can I please know where did you get that Red Mountain first phase's song (the one that has a low-pitch guitar sound) or where did it come from? I don't remember hearing it on Dreamcast or SADX.

    • @wonder-games3579
      @wonder-games3579 Před 6 lety +23

      OkeOke Du I believe it's from The autodemo of Sonic Adventure.

    • @okeokedu3281
      @okeokedu3281 Před 6 lety +9

      You're right. It's infact from the Autodemo. Thanks.

    • @worthlessfools1
      @worthlessfools1 Před 4 lety

      @@okeokedu3281 Really late reply, but it is also used in the SADX Preview for when a boss test is done, and then a screen with nothing but two blue elongated spheres (probably meant to say retry or quit) appear with this music.

  • @dbnpoldermans4120
    @dbnpoldermans4120 Před 4 lety

    Thank you so much for this video. Seems lika alot of research and work.
    Could not have been any better. I learned alot also about game development in general. And awesome to see so much hidden stuff. Great big annotations to easily and quickly read. Nice background music. 100 star video

  • @bunslinger
    @bunslinger Před 5 lety +10

    maybe the original purpose of those "item stands" was to hold the upgrades? before they were replaced with the green circle thing

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 Před 3 lety +1

      Makes sense. The green Circles make a weird itemcapsule-sound when they are entered.

  • @williamdrum9899
    @williamdrum9899 Před 3 lety +1

    1:35 That music is so good. Reminds me of Lego Island

    • @tikao5467
      @tikao5467 Před 2 lety

      Thats Snowy Mountain for Icecap! One of my most favourite tracks in the game!

  • @mryoshi1221
    @mryoshi1221 Před 6 lety

    ive watched this video so much lately, this entertains me so much

  • @Gaboxf
    @Gaboxf Před 6 lety +6

    Wow, that's so cool, thanks for making this video

  • @darkky7409
    @darkky7409 Před 5 lety +1

    These are the things I stay up to three in the morning to watch.

  • @Darkspines22
    @Darkspines22 Před 6 lety

    Your videos are underrated, this has a lot of good info

  • @tacticianmagician4716
    @tacticianmagician4716 Před 4 lety +3

    That Red Mountain catapult was probably intended to be on that part of the stage where touching the steaming moving rocks propelled you forward in the air past a life capsule, always thought that bit was odd

  • @link_legend819
    @link_legend819 Před 6 lety +19

    I thought ice cap had a chain of 7 at the beginning.

    • @oceanprince3147
      @oceanprince3147 Před 6 lety +2

      And I thought Sky Deck used all 9.

    • @oceanprince3147
      @oceanprince3147 Před 6 lety +3

      Wait, it was also 7, my bad.

    • @link_legend819
      @link_legend819 Před 6 lety +4

      Dairiseki, maybe they're only in the DX version. That's how I was playing it.

  • @VKpreviews
    @VKpreviews Před 6 lety

    This was a very informative video. Good job bro!

  • @captaincz5763
    @captaincz5763 Před 3 lety

    How is no one else talking about this? This is amazing!

  • @SoniMarSponge
    @SoniMarSponge Před 6 lety

    I love your videos so much! I bet that door animation would of been used in a cutscene like that cave cutscene you see when ice cap is unlocked

  • @VelocityTJ
    @VelocityTJ Před 6 lety

    I love your videos! So much interesting stuff! :D

  • @edfreak9001
    @edfreak9001 Před 6 lety +7

    Can you carry other objects into the Chao Garden? If not, then the Chao Stadium card is probably unused just due to how it handles loading into the Chao gardens doesn't allow bringing items. Granted, they made it work for the Wind/Ice stones, so...
    It'd be really cool to see you cover an "Unused stuff" covering OOB or unused SET configurations, thanks for this video too though!

    • @rynobehnke8289
      @rynobehnke8289 Před 6 lety +7

      Of cause can one take items with them how else are you suppose to take the 3 spezial Chao Egg's into the garden.

    • @edfreak9001
      @edfreak9001 Před 6 lety +2

      Somehow I completely forgot those, you're right.
      This just shows how none-at-all I cared about the SA1 chao system.

  • @Qrown1145
    @Qrown1145 Před 5 lety

    Just stumbled upon your channel Love it keep it up lol Sonic R was my first game to play as well as classics on game cube XD

  • @sputnik5676
    @sputnik5676 Před 4 lety +1

    Never noticed until watching this video that Sky Chase uses Sonic and Tails' Sonic Jam models on the Dreamcast version. Huh

  • @kimberlydiaz7043
    @kimberlydiaz7043 Před 6 lety

    I hope you get popular on CZcams. I really enjoy your content. :) I subscribed for sure!

  • @Noruzenchi86
    @Noruzenchi86 Před 5 lety +3

    4:36 story of my life

  • @kenpanderz
    @kenpanderz Před rokem

    something about the explanation of how these objects work, dont work or are just unused makes me think of Mr. Fantastic's explanation of what he knows about Helios 1. things just randomly work or dont work, or only kinda work but in unexpected ways
    15:01 its no use!

  • @Buksonn
    @Buksonn Před 6 lety +6

    Got sub from me, always something interesting about my favourite game :) cheers!

  • @JoSephGD
    @JoSephGD Před 4 lety +2

    A 9-set of jump panels is used in Ice Cap, I believe.

  • @EpicGamer-fl7fn
    @EpicGamer-fl7fn Před 6 lety

    Beta 64 - Sonic Adventure (Extended edition)
    -no seriously, i thought that there's gonna be a lot's of stuff that were in Beta 64 video but only one was actually in their video. my sub goes to you-

  • @PixlPixel
    @PixlPixel Před 4 lety +1

    If we ever get a SA1 remaster I hope it includes the really cool cut content like the dragon.

  • @xela12345
    @xela12345 Před 6 lety

    Has that version of Dreams Dreams been used anywhere else?? This is mindblowing!!

  • @foxx64
    @foxx64 Před 6 lety

    Wonderful stuff!

  • @Ninetails2000
    @Ninetails2000 Před 6 lety

    13:52-It's almost like a "Asking people information about what's going on" montage. XP

  • @Sparkette
    @Sparkette Před 5 lety

    Regarding the correction you made in the description, it's funny you happened to use the Icecap music for that part. And not only that, but that specific section of Icecap with the 8-panel sequence.

  • @Sonicjan
    @Sonicjan Před 6 lety

    I know, I'm late, but for Sky Chase Act 2 there is even a second Dragon-Boss with his own unique design!

  • @lugbzurg8987
    @lugbzurg8987 Před 4 lety +4

    I'd just assume that chao pass card was initially required to access Chao World, much like the Twinkle Circuit pass cards.

    • @aryandescendant6116
      @aryandescendant6116 Před 4 lety

      Kinda like how in SA2,you have to get a key for a character in order for that character to get to be in the Chao Garden?

  • @gabrielfonsecadeoliveira5563

    4:40 tails suicide

  • @MarioMarioBW
    @MarioMarioBW Před 3 lety

    I know the Chao Card/Chao Race symbol at 14:35 is supposed to represent a heart above two chao, but seeing the card from afar makes it like a silly googly cross-eyed face with a bushy moustache ^^'.
    Also, pretty cool & helpful seeing those cutscene only & unused NPCs at 13:50. For a few years now I've been using Gen8's Chibi Maker to make a bunch of Sonic characters , and I've been focusing on Sonic Adventure's NPCs & key objects recently while replaying the game. Somehow I've made at least 70 chibis from Sonic Adventure alone, and I haven't even touched the general Badnik enemies yet ^^'.

  • @kirillmarine5157
    @kirillmarine5157 Před 6 lety

    DLC?
    Is it Payday or something, but anyway freakin cool vid and we now now what 20 years later was hidden from us.

  • @Ebitz20
    @Ebitz20 Před 6 lety +1

    13:05 RIP TREE

  • @jeshirekitenkatt1212
    @jeshirekitenkatt1212 Před 4 lety +1

    With how far altering this game has come, I wonder if the functional unused stage objects can be used to make anything fun?

  • @YplanAnimator
    @YplanAnimator Před 2 lety

    i may be late but that chao card could be way of entering the race hall, something like the text says when you pick it up.

  • @samirrabdelah5178
    @samirrabdelah5178 Před 2 dny +1

    the dialogue written in French which appeared that sonic touched the tree said merry Christmas it's almost the year 2000 a with a cool or slight way of speaking maybe it's because sonic just said That. which is weird because the French translation is horrible or even criminal in this game

  • @ShinyDanner
    @ShinyDanner Před 4 lety

    the egg carrier has a low poly model of it used in one of the cutscenses when it is transformed

  • @Noxedwin
    @Noxedwin Před 4 lety +1

    That's a Nice Tumbleweed.

    • @Noxedwin
      @Noxedwin Před 4 lety

      Holy shit, I am _honoured_ to be part of this momentous occasion.
      ibb.co/fxdxSvZ
      This tumbleweed is fucking *blessed.*

  • @mori-cq5282
    @mori-cq5282 Před 6 lety +5

    Anyway I could hear the NiGHTS_S song?
    EDIT: Found it. It's called Dreams Dreams: Sweet Mix

  • @hypemugen
    @hypemugen Před 6 lety +3

    Would it be possible to animate that dragon into a boss fight and add it into the game as a special mod? Taking advantage of the already finished animations and affects?

  • @Ninetails2000
    @Ninetails2000 Před 6 lety +1

    17:30- "In the night, dream delight. I found someone who really wants to see you standing there...." Such a classic...

  • @wonder-games3579
    @wonder-games3579 Před 6 lety +41

    There is something I have always been curious about ever since I played Sonic Adventure for the very first time.
    At 12:50 there is a lake at the bottom area that has a small platform that will go back into the wall if you try to stand on it.
    Any idea why that is?

    • @raiser4068
      @raiser4068 Před 6 lety +2

      .

    • @tsangpogorge
      @tsangpogorge Před 6 lety +19

      Push that platform plus I think another one and you get rewarded with the black chao egg!

    • @DragonArbock
      @DragonArbock Před 6 lety +28

      Silver Chao egg. black is egg carrier.

    • @levzurcher8902
      @levzurcher8902 Před 6 lety +16

      Yeah, pushing it shoots out the Chao egg from the wall

    • @RarefoilB
      @RarefoilB Před 6 lety +11

      When I was a kid I genuinely thought that that Egg was the Ice Stone and wonder for a while why wasn't it working when I put it on the pedestal.

  • @darkchanges2339
    @darkchanges2339 Před 4 lety +7

    Does no one see sonic is in his jam model on 9:09

    • @tidepoolclipper8657
      @tidepoolclipper8657 Před 4 lety +3

      It's kinda interesting the Dreamcast version had Sonic's 3D-Saturn model for the Tornado segments. Sonic Adventure apparently was intended at first for Saturn, but moved to Dreamcast when Sega decided to create Chaos as a way to demonstrate the Dreamcast's capabilities.
      However, Sega replaced that model in the GCN version.

  • @Gagey_b011
    @Gagey_b011 Před 3 lety

    Uh oh, people are gonna probably make "Every Copy of Sonic Adventure is Personalized" with you having these unused stuff and the autodemo footage.

  • @mihsan660
    @mihsan660 Před 2 lety

    i would love to see that sky chase jam model in a mod

  • @smorf8309
    @smorf8309 Před 6 lety

    I’m willing to bet the Item Stands in the Mystic Ruins was for the Windy Valley key

  • @thisprojectisretired7316

    I always knew that those platforms in the hotel were platforms for keys, never saw any footage though, I thought that maybe if you took the windy valley and ice cap key and put them in it then it would unlock the elevator on the right of the chao garden (the one for knuckle’s chaos fight) and you’d be able to fight him as sonic or catch egg man in there and there would be a bonus boss fight lol

  • @gggggerman2008
    @gggggerman2008 Před 4 lety

    if some developer from sega-sonic team would tell us the funtion of every unused objects, i would be happy!

  • @RandomR32
    @RandomR32 Před 5 lety

    0:46 i hear that jingle in mystic ruins meanwhile loading the world

  • @icekokoro2708
    @icekokoro2708 Před 5 lety

    Dang that dragon would’ve been cool to at least have during Act 2 of Sky Chase.

  • @PotatoSoupThe64th
    @PotatoSoupThe64th Před 4 lety

    It's almost like they encourage you to find these files

  • @AlexTCGProYT
    @AlexTCGProYT Před 6 lety +1

    Amazing video! Have you ever done one about beta Windy Valley?

    • @SPEEPSHighway
      @SPEEPSHighway  Před 6 lety +3

      I'd love to but I have no idea how to get the broken AutoDemo stages to load.

  • @BabyGreedTheHedgehog_MegaLifeF

    Well I could say have a nice day good job on your video.^_^!?Sonic retro

  • @kendelkx
    @kendelkx Před 6 lety

    I always end up back at your channel lol

  • @sanglish18
    @sanglish18 Před 6 lety

    nice! i never know about that objects (except for the dragon), you can make a SA2 version of this video!

  • @TehJellyLord
    @TehJellyLord Před 6 lety

    Holy shit the Twinkle Circuit theme is what the Sonic Mania theme song is based on omg

  • @andrewjxj5809
    @andrewjxj5809 Před 4 lety

    Honestly those jump panels would of been helpful for level A in Speed Highway

  • @BreezeEase
    @BreezeEase Před 6 lety +5

    Good vid!

  • @whatsupbossanova
    @whatsupbossanova Před 6 lety

    The directors cut prototype used the original sonic model? Cool...

  • @kingprime7019
    @kingprime7019 Před 3 měsíci +1

    9:12 sonic and tails looks from sonic r

  • @temshop5757
    @temshop5757 Před 6 lety

    15:45 i fuCKING KNEW THOSE BUTTONS WERE SUSPICIOUS

  • @SAWNIX
    @SAWNIX Před 6 lety +1

    hang on pads 6 to 9 anre used in ice cap on the jump pad bit at the start of the level

  • @senseiusagi6136
    @senseiusagi6136 Před 4 lety +1

    But in Ice cap and in Sky deck are number panels that go higher than 5

  • @mickhithemouse
    @mickhithemouse Před 4 měsíci

    jump panel 6 goes used in ice cap

  • @Caim6311
    @Caim6311 Před 3 lety

    If they do a remake they might add items that was a cut contend

  • @mryoshi1221
    @mryoshi1221 Před 4 lety

    do you run this on your PC? or do you hack this into the dreamcast and then capture it there? i just always wonder how the DC can handle all this stuff. i love the DC but lets be fair; it can only handle so many objects in one 'room'

  • @zachurry8065
    @zachurry8065 Před 4 lety

    4:40
    Tails: Ight imma head out

  • @CarBleeder
    @CarBleeder Před 4 lety +1

    2:26 Nice

  • @thesmilingman7576
    @thesmilingman7576 Před 9 měsíci

    8:56 when the camera turns to face the Tornado once Sonic and Tails best the level you can see the egg hydra in the background anyone here know how to code custom bosses cause I think that would be a good place to add a boss fight

  • @Sparkette
    @Sparkette Před 5 lety +1

    That platform with the rockets in Red Mountain looks like something from Garry's Mod.

  • @bootlegCanine
    @bootlegCanine Před 11 měsíci

    fairly certain that the number panels go up to 7 in the back path of Sky Deck Act 2, could be wrong tho lmao

  • @Tails_LP
    @Tails_LP Před 6 lety +1

    1:54 there 8 panels in Ice Cap 1

  • @megaant7591
    @megaant7591 Před 4 lety

    How do you enter object placement mode in the Dreamcast original? Like what is the address for this and what byte needs to be changed to what?

  • @MrNarutofan9000
    @MrNarutofan9000 Před 6 lety

    amazing!

  • @BEEPIcons98
    @BEEPIcons98 Před 6 lety

    Wooow didn't know sonic adventure had a lot missing content

  • @ElectroNukeMods
    @ElectroNukeMods Před 6 lety

    Wait... isn't the smooth gear used in certain parts of Hot Shelter?

    • @SPEEPSHighway
      @SPEEPSHighway  Před 6 lety

      There's only two instances of the largest gear size and they're the ones near the start of the act - both bumpy ones.

  • @Ioeatt
    @Ioeatt Před 6 lety

    What is the song that plays when you are looking at the jump panels in the beginning of the video?

    • @Ioeatt
      @Ioeatt Před 6 lety +1

      I found it. If anyone is wondering, it is Snowy Mountain for ice cap

  • @kirbyofthestarsfan
    @kirbyofthestarsfan Před 6 lety

    God I wish they used Nights_S instead of the Accapella version :']

  • @amyrose070799
    @amyrose070799 Před 5 lety +1

    Im the trashcan from speed highway.

  • @GoldenGrenadier
    @GoldenGrenadier Před 6 lety

    Has anyone made a list of the objects in the game that use a picture of the Dreamcast as a texture? E-102's hot shelter boss uses it and those flying spinner enemies also use it on their blades. I'm sure there are more but the texture might be warped or misshapen.