Spartan 3's, The Best Spartan Class | Halo Lore - Uncle Sam
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- Today we are exploring the Spartan 3 Progam and its lore within the Halo Universe! These guys has a special place in my heart, and are one of the things that made me fall in love with halos lore. Thank you all for watching!
Clips Used:
Halo Wars Definitive Edition - Spartans vs Elites - Halo SMG
Halo: Reach - "A Spartan Will Rise" Trailer [HD] - HaloBaseLegend
Halo Infinite | Multiplayer Season 1 Cinematic Intro - HALO
Halo Wars: Opening Cutscene - Lethal Threat
Halo Reach- ONI Sword Base: Meeting Dr. Halsey - Lethal Threat
Halo: Reach - "Birth of a Spartan" (Extended) Live Action Trailer [HD] - HaloBaseLegend
Halo: Reach - "Deliver Hope (Extended)" Live Action Trailer [HD] - HaloBaseLegend
Halo Evolutions: Headhunters 1080p HD - Gamer's Little Playground
Music Used
Winter Contingency - Halo Reach
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Spartan 2 won the war but Spartan 3 gave them time to do so.
Exactly! Thank you for watching!
i want master chief to know his savior
@Waffo2018 it would be so cool for chief to acknowledge noble 6 snd the rest of noble tesm for securing the cortana fragment and helping the autumn escape
@@JJTheSpartan_117 Maybe after knowing that he might go to reach to just search for noble 6 helmet and the rest of noble team helmet that wasn't destroyed but maybe.
@@Waffo2018 that was linda in the Ship
All the Halo tv Show had to do was make an episodic show on Spartan psychology. Instead of fifty shades of Chief.
EAAAAAAAAAAAAA
show is a complete mess, we literally need a saving private ryan type show with ODSTS to take us out of this drought of quality halo content
Amen
Oh my god do you guys ever get any original ideas
All i fucking hear all the time when discussing a halo tv show that ISN'T what we have is "MUH BAND OF BROTHERS DARK AND GRITTY MUH SAVING PRIVATE RYAN"@gatheringwolves8267
@@NobleRaider2747 yeah bro cause we all know you enjoy watching master cheeks, goofy ass show you enjoy hahahahaha
Of the Spartan IIIs of Noble team, Kat died to a needler to the head, Carter died as a result of kinetic energy, Emile died to a backstab, 6 died at the hands of several elites, and Jun survived only because he was told to.
The only thing that could kill my boi Jorge was a freakin' black hole.
Jorge was built different. Thanks for watching my man!
Wasn't Jorge a Spartan II?
He was indeed
And Jorge being a Spartan 2 was the point.
After all no matter how you slice it Spartan 3s were inferior to Spartan 2s in nearly every way by some margin or other. Got so bad in batch 3 of Spartan 3s that the Spartan 2 in charge of their training gave them very controversial stims/drugs just to give them a better shot at living whilst on the battlefield. We're as batch 1-2 were nearly all dead by this time with some exceptions.
@nuvankstrickland9223 It was their training AND augmentation. They weren't communicating properly
Other spartan III’s: *disposable*
Noble Six: “F**k ya’ll, dyings for losers”
HAHAHAHA YEAH
More like Noble Six sucked all their luck for survival dry himself lol
Noble 6: No one said we were allowed to die, WTF guys
Noble 6 literally died tho, this would work better with Jun.
1:32 ONI was against the Insurrection but once they saw Emile, they were basically like “okay dude, tone it down a bit.”
Yeahhhhhh😂 thanks for watching!
“Professionals have standards”
According to one guy I talked to Emile committed 246 war crimes against insurrectionist cells before ONI assigned him to noble team
Yup. Emile is a bit nuts. Thanks for watching!
@@unclesamlore Its only a warcrime if you're loosing.
@@aierune8201 see that’s the fun thing about fighting the covenant. Warcrimes don’t matter against Xenos, my boy.
@@xenon3990 They don't have human rights if they aren't human, and you can't violate nonexistent rights. Now there is a concern about rights being God-given, but as far as I can tell we're the ones made in God's image. Not those split jaws or rhino-apes or their smelly compatriots, so we're in the clear I'd reckon.
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Halo: Reach was the first game that actually made you feel like you were truly a Spartan, just another cog in the machine on a team of disposable Spartans giving their lives to help The Demon in the background without ever getting recognition for it, since the UNSC was dirty and the Spartans were originally made to deter humans so nobody will ever know or care.
Oh absolutely. I really like the way reach felt tonally, ODST as well. Thanks for watching!
I wish there had been more Spartan III fireteams with energy shielded Mjolnir in the lore similar to Noble team
Crazy that almost all of them served essentially as highly effective cannon fodder
Oh same honestly, but I still like seeing noble team as they are. It makes them special that way! Thanks for watching!
Tbf both missions for alpha and beta had a miscalculation and other unforeseen problems. Like how the surviving sII died from glassing at reach
Though essential a full company of Spartans were able to take out planet each time..
There were at least three other teams present on Reach. Gauntlet, Red and Echo. Presumably also comprised of six members each.
The Spartan IIIs were basically the UNSCs most effective offensive weapon against the covenant. And yes, more effective than any Spartan II. Costs and numbers alone could win that battle. Call them human shaped superweapons or tools at least, not cannon fodder lol.
They were never thrown uselessly at enemy forces or to stall for time. They almost always completed some of the most dangerous and insane missions of the war. It's just the one or two missions where things go wrong and the entire company is massacred that stands out, and they still succeeded. They were treated and used as real Spartans, with similar results, just without plot armour or the extra advantages of Mjolnir.
Chief just gives us a ridiculously unequal view of how important the different spartan programs were.
Genetics, canonical luck/natural talent (Halsey's coin), experience, armour quality, and bone density. Spartan IIs had all these advantages. It makes sense their survival rate was higher, and they were better soldiers by most standards.
But IIIs had the greater motivations, were given better training, better chemical augmentations, basically, they were tempered into better weapons, made into better killers, better tools from ONIs and the UNSCs viewpoint. Noble 6 was given a lethality rating equal to chief. Carter was the highest ranking Spartan in the war, IIs included. Probably precisely because of his drive, and because he was seen as more controllable than a Spartan II.
@@ergofiction5627nah chief was more effective than the entire third and fourth generation of spartans 🤣
Thank you, I have always said it, that the Spartans III were the ones who fought the hardest battles without receiving any credit, and without forgetting that the majority at this point would not be more than 14 years old
For me they will always be the best, they are the heroes who will never receive recognition, will never know their names or will be remembered for their sacrifice.
That even the lore itself has forgotten them, the few survivors remain hidden, working from the scraps on missions that no one else would do, posing as common Spartans IV.
I've always thought that Bungie purposely made the Spartans III who are dead in the last mission of Halo Reach not have defined armor, so that you wouldn't even know who they were, that they went on missions that never happened, with armor that was never used by Spartans who they never went
Glad we are of a similar mind 😂 thanks for watching!
Spartan II's were really only larger than IIIs because by the time of the IIIs, Spartan IIs were all fully grown and had been fighting for decades. IIIs were still technically children at that point. Give them time, and they would grow and get taller. Lucy is the ONLY Spartan III to be canonical smaller than normal. On the same side, comparing Noble Team's heights to Jorge is also bad, because Jorge is an absolute UNIT, even compared to other Spartan IIs.
Other than that tiny nitpick, Spartan IIIs truly were some of the best around, and I HATE that so many people seem to think they are worse than IIs, or that they were made to be thrown away (ONI treated them like shit, but they weren't designed for that in mind). Love seeing videos like this that give the real facts about the best bunch of orphans around.
Thanks man! I appreciate the kind words! Thanks for watching!
Nope. Threes were ALWAYS depicted as being smaller.
@@Bryan-uw1ny ...yes, because they are still technically children/teenagers by the end of the war. The Spartan IIIs of Noble team (and in Reach in general), are not fully grown, so comparing their heights to Elites or Jorge, canonical one of the TALLEST Spartan IIs, is misleading.
With regards to augmentations, IIs had a ceramic material grafted to their bones, so they were given super puberty drugs before their augmentations to make them fully grown, all so that their bones didn't painfully break due to growing older and the ceramic limiting said growth. Spartan III's augmentations where chemical, and said augmentations chemically reinforced their bones, which allowed them to grow naturally without breaking.
Why is it so hard to believe that one generation of Spartans is as good, or nearly as good as another? It's not like the III's are cocky arrogant bastards who strut around talking about how great they are (like the damn IV's...).
@@Bryan-uw1ny You can't read lol
Jorge is the same height as chief.
He's actually NOT a unit. He's a standard Spartan 2. Which is supposed to be a contextual thing.
"This. Is your demon. This. Is your chief-insert. Your savior. This is what he looks like to others."
I swear Spartan-III's are so underrated. They can perform just as well as a Spartan-II if the III was wearing Mjolnir armor. And I always felt they seemed to get shafted by life in general, glassed parents and then sent off to die at like 12 years old. Or be riddled with PTSD(or in this case, Post-Traumatic-Vocal-Disarticulation) like Lucy-B091
This has always been my feeling! thanks for watching!
I don't exactly like when people say that Spartan 3's were disposable. Quite often during the Human Covenant War, when humans lost, they lost catastrophically. Alpha and Beta were only wiped out because of circumstances out of their control. Both had extraction plans and weren't just suicide troops sent on suicide missions. They were dangerous, yes, but they weren't just thrown into a meat grinder with no plan.
Alpha company was cut off from their extraction by a fleet descending from orbit during their mission.
When Beta company encountered the mass threat of several cruisers that were missed during recon and were ordered to retreat. The only reason the facility was destroyed because a team continued on against orders (the team of which lucy and tom belonged to)
I can see that, but even ackerson thought of them as such. Making the ones that survive even more special. Thanks for watching!
They definitely were not designed as disposable soldiers. Anyone who says otherwise is wrong and should quit yapping
Halsey's Spartan 2 is the peak of talented kids she hand picked (kidnapped) and raised them to become the super soldiers who serves humanity. Most notably are Red Team, Blue Team and Black Team.
Spartan 3s may not strong and effective like 2s, but their individual strengths and sense of comradery compensated everything, most notably is the Noble Team.
Spartan 4s are far inferior to 2s at strength, effectiveness and tatical mind. But like Spartan 3s their sense of comradery compensate everything.
Yeah I tend to agree! Thank you for watching!
Spartan 3 cat 2 tho
@@Genesongx Ooooh, am glad that you're mentioned it, the SPARTAN IIIs - CAT II is the combination of Halsey's handpicking method and SPARTAN III augmentation, These chosen canidates would become the M6D magnum opus of SPARTAN Program, even surpass Halsey's SPARTAN IIs. However, It is hard to find a CAT II candidates in a big crowd of SPARTAN IIIs, especially they're already in the midst of the Human-Covenant war, so ONI tends to go faster and cheaper method in exchange for loosing quality.
I know the S-IIs are the god like super soldiers that everyone prefers over the S-IIIs.
However, I’ve got a big soft spot for them and they’ll always be my personal favorite.
Alpha and Beta Companies all traded their lives to buy humanity and the S-IIs time. They were sent on suicide missions and watched as their fellow friends fall beside them, knowing there was nothing they could do for them. And they were all only around 11 -years-old…and they still completed the mission
They may not have been as genetically gifted as the S-IIs, nor given MJOLNIR armor. But by god, did they all earned to be recognized as true Spartans.
Oh absolutely! Thanks for watching!
They weren’t 11 years old during operations like Operation Torpedo but some of them were definitely under 18
@@SideStrafed it’s been a while, but I definitely remember it was mentioned in ‘Ghosts of Onyx’ that Tom and Lucy were only 11 or 12-years-old during Operation: Prometheus
My favorite fact of the Spartan III’s is Emile being reassigned from insurrectionist operations, because he was to brutal.
Imagine being so unhinged that even ONI is telling you to chill.
YUPPPP. Thanks for watching!
The S3s truly deserved to have more credit and attention in the franchise. After playing Reach and reading Ghosts of Onyx, I really wanted to see more of them. It really sucks that most were sent out to die in rather successful suicide missions leaving a handful left alive. Also a strange fact, is that just before Onyx got destroyed there were supplies for a Spartan 3 Delta Company set up for training. So this technically means there’s another company of S3s other than the Gamma’s that are still active we’re likely relocated for training.
From what I recall the candidates never got recruited, so that company has been lost. Thanks for watching!
@@unclesamlore
Actually there were candidates selected already for training and were on their way to Onyx. It’s just that their fate has been made unknown after Onyx’s destruction and the S4s coming in. Plus I don’t see how ONI would pass on having 300 more secret super soldier units to use.
@z-man1237 the possibly got rolled into S-4 considering all the facilities for their training was gone and they now had a semi hostile shield world to explore and set up in
The main reason Alpha and Beta die was because bad intel on the UNSCs part, but those missions where a success.
And Gamma survived the war there are still over 300 gamma S3s, with potentialy a few tens of Cat 2s and headhunters from Alpha and Beta.
Currently yeah that is what we have seen, I hope we get to see more of them! Thanks for watching!
If Johnson had spi armour he would've been unstoppable
Honestly, yeah. Thanks for watching!
Ah spartan III's my fav. I once had a debate with a classmate in highschool at lunch bout the type of Spartans you play in reach. Man didn't know Jack bout the lore and I had a field day telling all bout it. Like how canonically the grenadier and mk v b were the testing bed of energy shields that would be found in later armor sets
FELT. I DID THE SAME THING. I honestly still do that now LOL. Thanks for watching!
you mean you owned him epic style in front of the entire school??
@@OwnedEpicStyle well it's more of owning him around the friend group at the lunch table
@@Aidyzap was it at least epic style?
@@OwnedEpicStyle well I can't recall been a long time for me to remember some highschool antics but I probably have
I like that Spartan 3s if given mjolnir, can be as lethal as 2s but are arguably faster and more agile due to size and the way they’re made. Noble Six does hold Hyper lethal, something that for the twos, only Chief holds. Imagine if the UNSC had refined mjolnir production to the point it had in halo 4 onwards earlier on in the war. The 2s would still dominate, no doubt. But the 3s purpose would shift from suicide missions to actual special ops soldiers. Imagine noble team, on a army wide scale. Every 2 being paired with a group of 3s.
Exactly! It shows that all Spartans are effective. Thanks for watching!
Spartan 3s could go toe to toe with 2s physically; they were just sent into combat essentially naked in SPI. The 2s also had a couple decades of combat experience over the 12ish year old 3s at the time of Torpedo and Prometheus.
Yup. But when on equal footing, both were equally effective. But it’s their lore and everything surrounding them that makes me love them more. Thanks for watching!
Spartan II's were raised with the mindset to complete the mission and do so as a team
They were, but could be just as effective as individuals. The spartan 3s were closer to a family by all accounts than the spartan 2s, blue team not withstanding. Thanks for watching!
@unclesamlore Not Alpha Company. Kurt later changed his training tactics for the future Spartan 3 Companies after seeing the total destruction of Alpha Company. He trained those future S-III companies to fight more as a fireteam, as a familial unit instead of becoming lone wolfs the moment the companies started taking heavy losses.
They were more of enhanced soldiers instead of super soldiers, the perfect middle ground not too strong and not too weak
I would say that’s fair! But in mjolnir they were extremely effective. Thanks for watching!
I finished reading Ghost of Onyx just a month ago, and seeing Kurt train all of the III’s really gave me a deeper love for them. I’m gonna have to agree that the III’s are my favorite
It’s my favorite halo book! Thanks for watching!
Aside from Reach I've never seen 2's interact with 3's
In the book ghosts of onyx the remaining parts of blue team (Fred Kelly and Linda) interact with spartan 3s and Kurt! It’s a really great book, give it a read! Thanks for watching!
I actually just finished last light and retribution.
I like how Fred is in charge of the gammas, kinda taking over for Kurt.
Mixed spartan teams is an interesting concept to read through
Hmmm, a man of culture! Oh same, it’s given me a lot of appreciation for Fred as a character. Thanks for watching!
Fun fact about Spartan IIIs, some on the Spartan III candidates had a genetic profile that would have qualified them to be selected for the Spartan II program. These candidates were called Cat 2s as a result.
These Cat 2s had a far greater affinity for the augmentations and as a result were almost as strong and fast as Spartan IIs. With the only visible difference being Spartan IIIs were average height.
Every member of Noble team was a Cat 2. Explaining why they were just as strong as George.
True! I have seen various reports on the Cat 2s. Even those that weren't cat 2s were incredibly strong none the less! Thanks for watching!
no, cat 2s weren't *almost* as strong and fast they *were* as strong and fast as a spartan ii. same genetics, same efficacy and augmentations and the same mjolnir suits. they were IIs in all but name. baseline IIIs were just as good as the average II, the slightly looser genetics wouldn't of suddenly downgraded them by 20-40% out of nowhere. they were still cream of the crop.
The fact that CRISPR and technologies like it weren't used to mitigate surgery risks in the Spartan II & III programs is absolutely criminal.
Yeah fair, thanks for watching!
What I like about the Spartan 3’s was that they were normal kids who wanted to avenge their family’s. They weren’t preselected tall kids with D1 athlete genetics like the Spartan 2’s.
It does make them a bit more relatable overall, that is something I agree with. Thanks for watching!
Can you imagine all the real estate available after the human/covenant war? I’d be ballin’ out
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I’ve always had an appreciation for Spartan III’s, primarily because they are the most relatable to me.
I’m a rather seasoned vet of Halo, having played nearly since birth & the beginning of the IP. Spartan III’s share some of my favourite armour styles in the whole franchise. Spartan III’s also have one of my favourite Spartan branches directly associated to them specifically; Headhunters. Spartan III’s are also very unsung in comparison to Spartan II’s (I’m not big on the spotlight, for the most part).
Most importantly, I fight like a Kriegsman, or at least, that’s what my friends & I call myself (Krieg’s are from Warhammer 40K). Kriegsman are very suicidal in their tactics & not only have no fear of death, but encourage it, if a goal is accomplished from it. Spartan III’s are the same, in this regard. I am the same, in this regard.
I’m glad we enjoy them man, thanks for watching!
@@unclesamlore Thanks for the upload. It’s a very healthy mix of informative, without underwhelming/disrespecting other Spartan branches.
Edit:
Just checked out your channel and the first thing I saw as Warhammer. Now I feel silly for elaborating on Kriegsmen.
I've got the mass.
Semper Fi, Noble Team.
“You’re on your own Noble. Carter out.”
"Hit em hard, boss"
Ghost of Onyx was my first exposure to Halo literature, the spartn-iiis will always be special to me
It's for the same reason why I love them! Thanks for watching!
Love the spartan 3s. They didn't feel as sleek or super human as the 2s and 4s but were an important middle ground where they felt a step above normal soldiers but not like super soldiers. Very good video. Learned a lot and God Bless.
I feel the same way! I'm so happy you enjoyed and thank you for watching!
I like the Spartan IIIs b/c, paraphrasing Mendez, they were volunteers who showed what a normal person could accomplish through hard work and determination of the goal.
Mendez is the best! Thanks for watching!
Hey, Gamma Company Spartan III here. I used to be in a lot of clans back when Reach wasn't as dead as it is now and even then, SIII's were barely respected in comparison to SII's (at least from my experience, being a non-canon SIII probably helped make it worse). Glad to see we're getting some modicum of attention again, it warms my cold, drug induced heart.
Also, during my wonderfully long 6 month training, my trainer would constantly refer to me as an illegal Spartan. Thanks, Kurt lmao.
James G037 out.
Take your smoothers man, feel better😂. I have always loved the 3s. Always will. Thanks for watching!
Just discovered your channel and I see so much potential in these videos dude. Subbed
Thanks man! I appreciate it!
Just a note Halo: Divine wind has three gamma spartans that are prominant and explores a gamma without smoothers
RIGHTTTTT. I forgot about that book. I loved it when I first read it but it’s been a minute since I read it. Thanks for watching!
We need more spartan III appreciation! Good vid
Thanks for watching man!
I'm glad you went over the SPARTAN III's. Interesting to learn about the newer generations to improve combat effectiveness and cost efficiency
Yeah! It makes sense honestly, I like reading about the logistical side of things a lot. Thanks for watching!
@@unclesamlore looking forward to more content
awesome video.
Thanks man! I appreciate it!
Amazing video, wish we got more spartan 3s games or more of noble team
Thank you! And yeah same! That would be very cool, thanks for watching!
Great video! I actually just found a small tidbit of lore from a recent waypoint post that retcons it being kurt who pulled the 3s from operations Torpedo and Prometheus.
Im paraphrasing here but there was a log from the AI endless winter where he confessed to kurt that he had forged communications from kurt to pull certain spartans from beta company prior to the operation. It doesnt confirm but certainly implies that he did the same prior to the Alphas nearly being wiped out. Im a big fan of the change because i think it keeps the lore of Ghosts of Onyx and in general kurts team focused character more intact. I love the 3s and the further i go into the lore about them the more i think i prefer them to the 2s!
Oh wow that's really neat! Didn't know that! Thanks for watching!
I thought gamma company was active they shipped out from onyx for duty. While the two fire teams remained for best team competition. So potentially we got 300 gamma Spartans stomping around
I think that is what happened yeah! Thanks for watching!
There are currently 2 Spartan III’s from Gamma on the Ark
Translated into modern day military:
Spartan IIs are like Delta Force or SEAL Team 6
While Spartan IIIs are like Army Rangers; the unsung heroes that you'll always need.
Yup! Exactly! That’s what I have thought for a really long time. Thanks for watching!
I need a full "i love bees" breakdown. The most semi-non-canon-ish content ever added to the Halo universe that just adds a whole new class of Spartan-IIs.
I love I love bees, I’ll add it to the list! Thanks for watching!
I love the Spartan-IIIs, and they’re my favourite part of the lore. On average, they’re on par with the Spartan-IIs, and now that I’ve covered that community misconception (which was also covered in the video), there were Cat-2 Spartan-IIIs, and I can’t confirm if this is canon or my headcanon, but those Spartans had the same gentic criteria Halsey used to select the Spartan-IIs and thus these Spartan-IIIs were given Mjolnir and deployed similarly to the S-IIs.
Everyone knows of Noble, but some other Cat-2 Spartan-III teams to mention who were also present on Reach are Gauntlet, Red and Echo that Jun mentions during the ending cutscene for New Alexandria. Now I know some may think he was talking about the Spartan-II Red Team mentioned in The Fall of Reach book (which is different again from the Halo Wars Red Team), but it was confirmed by 343 in a canon fodder to be a Spartan-III team. There was also an unknown Spartan-III Fireteam who were also at Harmony (which is in the same system as Reach) who died defending a civilian evac site in the Capital.
The last one (which is more a theory and headcanon of mine) is those we see in Halo Infinite’s Season 1 cinematic trailer who drop in and save Agryna, and while it could be Spartan-IIs, I don’t see them being deployed like that considering how few there potentially are. It makes more sense for it to be Spartan-IIIs who are tasked to clear out Covenant areas. As for the armour, there was a GEN1 Mk. VII Mjolnir armour, so it all adds up, oh and at this time in Halo, the Spartan-IVs didn’t exist yet, so it couldn’t be that class. Anyways, that’s all I have to say
Wow I didn’t realize! Thank you a lot this is all really great info. Thank you very much for watching!
I think a great example of how desperate humanity was are the spartan III's. They were not made to be canon fodder, but humanitys back was so far up against the wall they just threw them into death to buy time. Most were still teenagers while fighting. They were just as effective as II's just way to young to be at their best, had near a decade less experience and their gear was so much worse.
Nice vid
Thanks man! Thanks for watching!
Everyone forgets Glassland that is the actual direct sequel to ghosts Evonik it continues with Dr. Halsey and the rest of Ganna company that survived with Linda Fred and Kelly and it goes about their adventure inside the shield world where they get more information about it and the Port Stanley ship
I didn’t forget, it was just a question of information pertinent to 3s overall and the video. I’m gonna make a video on the kilo 5 trilogy anyway,because I have a lot to say! Thanks for watching!
By god, another amazing video!
Thank you sir!
Ive always been surprised the Spartan III's didn't develop a grudge against the IIs like the odsts did.
The reason why they probably didn’t is because every spartan 2 they met treated them like any other spartan. They saw each other a Spartans first which is why they worked pretty well together. Thanks for watching!
They were so good I hardcoped that Fireteam Crimson of Spartan Ops were a bunch of reactivated Spartan 3s that underwent the upgrade (or at least received the new armor), partly because I refused to believe that the IVs acting the way they did deserved the title of "Spartan" and didn't want to associate with them.
LMAOOO😂 thanks for watching!
SIII’s are badass. Imagine if they all had mjolnir shielded armor. Would’ve annihilated the covenant.
That would have been so cool. I can only wish. Thanks for watching!
They could, but at the cost of the ENTIRE ECONOMY of the UEG and UNSC. 300 suits of Mjolnir would have BANKRUPTED the military while they’re in the middle of a defensive war against a genocidal theocratic alien empire
the burp at the end had me rolling
Thank you! Happy it gave you a laugh, thanks for watching!
spartan 3 where basically better odsts except for certain teams like noble who could almost compete with spartan 2, or at least they do in my mind cause holy shit, noble 6 literally fought an army before he got killed by top rank elites, also Jorge was a spartan 2 if i remember correctly
Jorge was a spartan 2 yes! Thank you for watching!
Better ODSTs seems rather cruel. They were still augmented to equal effect as the IIs, just didn't have Mjolnir. But a II or III outside of armor could easily crush a human skull without...well anything outside their bare hands.
Talks about spartan 3's proceeds to show me CAT 2 Spartan 3 noble 6 which are better than spartan 2's
Yessir! Thanks for watching!
I feel like this channel could grow to become something great. Take my engagement.
Thanks man I appreciate it! Thanks for watching!
Spartan III is my favorite Spartan Class too in halo as well. and I wish 343 would show more of Spartan 3 as well.
I always want more 3s! Thanks for watching!
My knowledge of Halo lore is limited, but it sounds like (and correct me if I'm wrong) that your Spartan IIs are like your Teir 1 Special Forces/NAVY SEALS. Whereas your Spartan IIIs are more like your Army Rangers. "No glory, all badass. Compete the objective, no matter the cost. So help me God I'll kill you with a plastic spoon."
Basically yeah. With some 3s being those tier 1 guys, most were frontline dudes. Thanks for watching!
*Covenant appears*
Most people: Oh shit
Insurrectionists: Thank god (They would have had to fight Emile)
HAHAHAH YEAH thanks for watching!
Spartan 3's are basically like buying condoms off Wish
YOU WIN BEST COMMENT I AM CACKLING
Love some s3 love
Always have loved them! Thank you for watching!
There’s also spartan 3’s in the first book of the Kilo 5 Trilogy (it’s an alternating chapter set up)
I remember that! Those books were good! Thanks for watching!
I love halo lore
Oh same man always have! Thanks for watching!
I feel like there should have been way more Spartan 3s out there... Alpha and Beta Companies were capped at 300 spartans respectively. So 600 Spartans in total.
Wait, just how many Spartan 3s got pulled away from their companies for individual assignments??
Jonah-B283 and Roland-B210 [Headhunters]
Thom-A293, Catherine-B320, Carter-A259, Emile-A239, Jun-A266, B-312 [ S-IIIs of Noble Team. ]
Not counting Tom and Lucy, they weren't pulled away from the operation that killed their entire company.
It was not until Gamma Company that broke the 300 Spartan number cap limit with 330 spartans.
Which means, they had 930 Spartan 3s wandering around, not including the numerous Headhunter Spartans and Spartan fireteams that were pulled away from their respective companies. [If someone feels like tracking down those missing Spartans, be my guest. I don't have time to do that.]
I think, I may have forgotten another Spartan 3 company. Delta Company. Although tbf, they dont count since none of them got trained anyway cus the fucking planet broke before -they did- sorry got there i mean.
There were! Another company was supposed to be in training, but the onyx battle happened sooooo yeah. Thanks for watching!
Kurt was a literal giant at over 8 feet tall, and the only one who would have surpassed him in height and being another leader would have been Samuel. I'd love to see an alternate timeline where he survived and grew as a Spartan and leader. He could have easily been in John's position if he had his luck.
Absolutely. Sam was a great character and im said to see him go. Thanks for watching!
I own halo evolutions, there's some neat stories in there too
Halo evolutions is amazing. One of my favorite halo books. Thanks for watching!
@@unclesamlore np bro
Spartan IIs were generally stronger, faster, better, but the Spartan IIIs that survived were just as good as if not slightly better than a lot of the IIs
Oh yeah, they were more than equal to the 2s. It’s part of the reason why I like them. Thanks for watching!
@@unclesamlore yeah! I like how a lot of Spartan IIIs are really good and high ranking. Noble Six was a lieutenant. But then there is the highest ranking Spartan, which I believe is Jerome. Behind him are Kurt, Six, Carter, and Fred. So two out of those five are IIIs, which is impressive!
I feel so damn validated when people talk about Spartan IIIs, I remember seeing that headhunter short movie in Halo legends after borrowing it from a library as a kid and being so confused, sad and in awe of how cool those spartans were, yet despite that they died
Rewatching it again after having binged lore videos, read the books and played some of the games (sorry lol, I should make time to play them all). The spartan IIIs honestly felt more grounded in their story and "relatability" with them being orphans and whatnot, their "professional angst" and how it carried to their more gruff and "antisocial" mannerisms, where Spartan IIs may have secluded themselves and been more robotic (which I also love given the context), I bet a Spartan III might have tossed a joke or told someone to flat out "Fuck off"
If you want to see a pretty decent real life parallel to the Spartan IIIs in terms of personality and mannerisms, I think the Mali-Afghan era Legion Etrangere (French Foreign Legion) is really fucking close, people that were rejected by the world, people with nowhere to go and people hoping for either a second chance or death find the Legion to be their only family. Effectively specializing in light infantry and mobilized infantry roles, La Legion did a great job portraying themselves like WWII era pathfinders who were parachuted with a person-to-mission gear ratio of 3:1 because they had such a low life expectancy, they were dropped in larger teams knowing most of them would perish
To add to that, La Legion has specialized infantry: GCP, FOS/DINOPS and GCM - Dedicated Paratroopers, Explosives experts that are also combat divers and saboteurs from my understanding, Mountain/Arctic/Dive warfare and EOD specialists respectively
There's just something about being so mad and alone that you crave death, both yourself and those that took away the things your found precious and how that affects your mannerisms that is so...interesting to me for lack of better word
These people earned the right to stare into death's face, spit in it and throw themselves into it's maw with a damn smile on their face
Dude same! I appreciate the history lesson! Thanks for Watching!
Each successive Spartan generation is A dilution. The one exception to that as I understood it is the Spartan IIIs bone augmentation is likely superior to the IIs. Spartan IVs are upjumped ODSTs.
Eh. Each have their ups and downs. I can imagine with effective training all 3 are coparable. The obvious outliers of chief, fred, jerome, noble team aside, most spartans are pretty equal. Thanks for watching!
@@unclesamlore Equals??? NO!!!! Halsey didn't even consider the IVs to be Spartans. No canon expert but as I remember the armor Chief was wearing when he tangled with Locke effectively "Nerfed" him but boosted Locke .............. Hence Mjolnir Gen 3 which IIRC 343 hasn't decided if Spartan IVs can even use Gen 3.
Spartan 3s can use any form of mjolnir. Plot contrivance aside, most spartans are rougly equal in terms of strength as the armor can make up the difference, it said so in the halo mythos book from a few years ago (which as an aside is an amazing book and does a great job showing the universe) and while chief is the greatest spartan, he is a main character. Outside of that, and other significant spartan 2 characters, 3s 4s, 2s all died alot. Training and experience matter alot here, and most average spartans are equal. The named characters are outliers@@AKlover
The spartan 3 were the front line forces while the spartan 2 were the special forces
Yup, exactly. Thank you for watching!
People who compare 2 to 3 need to know that the average Spartan 3 has no shielding and isn't noble 6 its better to compare exceptional 3s to spartan 2s because the 2s are exceptional
Fair enough! Thanks for watching!
People think Spartan 3s augmentations aren't as good as the 2s which couldn't be further from the truth. They were simply made safer, they weren't at all weaker than spartan 2 augmentations. The only thing the Spartan 3s were made weak with was their armor. It wasn't their augmentations that got them killed, it was their weaker armor and them being sent on suicide missions.
Oh 100000%. The effects weren’t as immediate but when they worked they worked. Thanks for watching!
@@unclesamlore Exactly! Little differences but overall they are just as fast, strong, and tough as a 2. They didn't cut the budget for the augmentations only the armor which was way more expensive than the augmentations.
You're welcome! Great video
@LethalByChoice thanks man I appreciate it!
back to the front!
YEAHHHH BUDDY. Thanks for watching!
Technically the sIIIs are augmentations are superior as well. Most of them are chemically/ genetically introduced. For example the sIIIs have literal metal bones compared to metal coated. The only reason why they never really lived up to the legend of the sIIs because they never lived long enough for the augmentations to grow with them.
Exactly. They are just as effective, just not as famous. Thanks for watching!
@@unclesamlore SIIIs are my favorite super soldiers. I think Tom and Lucy are my favorite characters in Halo. Ferret team is great too.
Spartan II's: Mama's fav. Strong, dependable, doesn't disobey, but smart enough to make decisions for themselves.
Spartan III's: Mama' likes them too. Just not as much a Spartan II's. But they are dependable. Just die too quickly in achieving their objectives and can sometimes be a bit sassy. Obey's and respects Spartan II's
Spartan IV's: Dumb as f*k. Strong and stupid. Hurt mama and other Spartan's.
LOLLLL thanks for watching!
Rubicon Protocol and other books say otherwise about the vast majority of the S-IV’s bring “dumb and stupid”, they are incredible soldiers despite Spartan-Ops portrayal of Fireteam Majestic and Palmer from Halo 4 almost a dozen years ago
They say victory doesn't come without sacrifice the Spartan III's were the sacrifice.
Yup. They did their job and did it well. Thanks for watching!
It's worth noting that of the ~3,000 Spartan III's, only about 950 of them were before the Human-Covenant War ended. Alpha, Beta and Gamma companies were ~300 Spartans each. Delta and Epsilon, commissioned after the war, were obviously much larger
Delta and epsilon never got completed as far as I know, because after the war ended spartan 4 started development as far as I know, thanks for watching!
@@unclesamlore I think they were mostly either absorbed into the S-IV Program or just quit.
that is what happened yes@@L1LegoAnimations
Their were 930 IIIs at peak...If Alpha and Beta wasn't 98% wiped out. There were 330 Gammas, for the most part they should still all be there with maybe the oddball death here and there. Onyx was destroyed so Delta never progressed. Anything about what was meant to be Delta hasn't been officially spoken of so that's free for speculation.
Actually. It isn't fully confirmed by how strong the Spartan IIIs could get. Due to their augments working with the body instead of against it like the Spartan II. It was stated Spartan III could get taller, stronger and faster than Spartan IIs because the bodies of Spartan II had to grow up before the augments. This didn't need to happen with the Spartan III..... Which means someday we might see Spartan IIIs being stronger, faster and better than Spartan IIs and Spartan 4s.
That would honestly be really really cool! Thanks for watching!
Out of curiosity could you do a video on the unsc army because there's barely an info on them and I kinda feel bad for them because seems like a lose lose situation. They can't leave a planet like the navy or marines meaning if they lose the battle, they get glassed.
Yeah absolutely! I will do that because that’s not something that is covered a lot. Thanks for watching!
Noble One gimme that steroid injection!
Noble two, what are you talking about
I just love how Kurt treats the S3's as if they were S2's. So much so that he refused to wear his Mjolnir in the face of sentinel attacks and instead wore a set of Grey SPI. Personally I still prefer the S2's but when it comes to lore and story, the S3's have it for me
That’s the reason why I love them! Their story is fascinating. Thank you for watching!
I thought the IIIs augmentations were a straight upgrade compared to the IIs and the differences in combat performance were due to age (most of the IIIs were dead before they turned 16) and SPI armor being inferior to MJOLNOR
They are but aren’t. Spartan 2s are stronger with both are using gen 1 mjolnir, but both using gen 2 or 3 are equal. The main benefit from the 3s augmentations was reliability. Thanks for watching!
They are by now means as effective as II's let's be real here. They were indeed disposable especially since they were given a less lethal and effective dosage of drugs and augmentations as the II. Halsey's spartans were specifically handpicked. The best of the best talented kids.
Besides the notable ones like noble team and headhunters, most tend to die as they were intended to sometimes all in one mission.
I mean, yes and no. Spartan 3 mjolnir equipped fireteams were just as effective as their spartan 2 counterparts. Even the rank and file spartan 3s had standouts, the only real limitation was the armor system which still worked very well. In fact some Spartan 4s use it. I think it really depends on what your after in terms of the fiction, and for me I like the 3s the best. Thanks for watching!
I have a question? How does a normal marine, or ODST view a Spartan III when seen in battle, so do they view Spartan III's the same as Spartan II's even though they were smaller then an average Spartans II?
Often to anyone outside of the spartan program or who knew any specifics, a spartan was just a spartan. Especially with mjolnir because at a glance you can’t really tell if you don’t know the details of both programs. Thanks for watching!
Goddamned heroes all of them.
yes they are! Thanks for watching!
A misconception my good man, if given the luxury of time and experience the S3s would match the S2s in physical prowess and martial prowess. They were cheaper due to dramatic advancements made in the augmentations which made them more cost effective and because of the cheaper SPI armour they were given as opposed to Mjolnir
True! That’s something I did not consider! Thanks for watching!
I believe there are only 5 spartan 3s left also we don't know exactly what happened to Charlie company
There wasn’t ever a Charlie company as far as I know, at one was never referenced in ghosts of onyx. Gamma was always referenced as the third company, which is a bit of jump but that’s what the book says I guess 😂 thanks for watching!
Nah bro Curt said Charlie company was on the way when attack happened but who knows what happened to them
@@dontreryan5145 I think that might be the rest of gamma who were deployed, because even on the halopedia page and the book there isnt a mention of a charlie company
The Sierra class II's were the "Delta Force" of the Halo Universe. Whereas the Sierra class III's were the "75th Ranger Regiment". Love em' both.
Good comparison! Thanks for watching!
@@unclesamlore Thanks. And I'll always make time for a fellow Hyper Lethal..
Spartan III are my favorite
same! Thanks for watching!
I feel like, between the two Spartan 3 classes, mostly Alpha and Beta, Alpha is the best company you'd want with you on the frontlines. They had a string of successful missions before they were wiped out.
Beta Company, well... Its like all their luck went to Spartan B-312, Kat, Lucy, and Tom because they got their asses wiped out on their first op.
Kinda yeah 😂 thanks for watching!
Sadly the misconception that S3s are weaker than 2s and even sometimes 4s are still circulating among the fandom. Even though the full breakdown of their augments as stated by installation 00 shows almost identical improvements except their chemically implanted likely causing a longer adaptation period which means they start growing of the lower base parameters of pre-adapted body while S2s only need to heal and then after healing the body almost instantly adapts to the max post augmentation parameters of their capabilities and starts growing from then onwards causing the strongest boys and girls to grow up even stronger as opposed to S3s that grow starting from an "about to be some of the strongest and fastest boys and girls" phase as they still age while the chemicals sit in the body and the body slowly adapts which means their not developing from peak post augmentation capabilities but instead growing from a stage where their only about to hit peak post augmentation capabilities causing less higher highs but almost exactly the same lows and everything in between as S2.
S4s on the other hand need constant maintenance written or mentioned somewhere in H4 or was it spartan ops that S4s aren't meant for long term deployments as both their armors and augments need constant maintenance. It was never specified which augments need several touch ups before fully sitting in permanently on the adult S4 or if anything is permanent at all or if they will suffer some kind of of side effect or outright lose super soldier capabilities if they miss or ain't maintained though. Which is also why the infinity catered to spartan 4s with so much space and machines and facilities just for S4 support.
Also much like the 4s program wise the 3s were manier all through out the war. There was like less than 20 living S2's after reach and most were behind enemy lines or lost somewhere like blue team so most of the "demons" of the later half of the war were 3s and quite likely to have been the ones that got elites to start calling helmed humans demons until they got to distinguish between chief's mjolnir, ODSTs and SPI and figured out that there are "Demons" and then there's "THE DEMON" and then the "Imps". So yeah program wise Spartan 3s were better and served humanity more and got more jobs done.
Oh yeah, 100%. The main difference in strength applies more to mjolnir being a better suit for enhancing strength. Also this impression comes from the fact that chief is a spartan 2. And he is the biggest outlier and has literal lore plot armor because of the stuff with the librarian in halo 4. When it comes to average spartans, the 3s excel in many ways and are just as good as their various counterparts, despite them being my favorite. Thanks for watching!
Ash Williams (Army of darkness) or Josh McGrath / Max Steel or Action Man (1993) or Guts / Gatsu (berserk) be like John 117 or Noble 6 or Zavala or Lord Saladin (Destiny), Elizaberth Betsy Braddock / Psylocke or Setsuna Meiou / sailor pluto or Kaine or A2 (Nier) or Lina Inverse (slayers 1989) be like Cortana, Duke Nukem rises from the ashes, theory or clue Halo is the future from the real life
Yeah basically 😂 thanks for watching!
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you know others franchises from my comment, John 117 is the copy of Captain America and Iron Man or looks like a power ranger / sentai, theories, programs, pojects anddocumentary from Aliens from the real life not all fake
Not that they would need to, but it would be awesome if the Banished found out about an augmentation facility and found a way to use the information to make an augmented Brute program. Just like a super Brute-Hunter 😅
I WOULD LOVE THAT OMG. Thanks for watching!
You forgot the Category 2 Spartan IIIs, or CAT2s. A group distinct and debatably more elite than even the Headhunters, although a number of them were likely deployed as Lone Wolf operatives. They were only ever mentioned once or twice but were explicitly referred to by Kurt as "children she would have chosen" had they been born decades earlier. Basically children that met Halsey's criteria and who happened to enlist in the III program by chance rather than being specifically selected by ONI. The chemical augmentations were every bit as effective with them as the IIs' improvements were, resulting in Spartans just as strong and fast as the best of the II class and with debatably far superior training.
Again, they're sadly only ever mentioned once or twice and through old, OLD Bungie lore that I'm not sure is still even accessible on their site since they retired all of their old Halo content years ago but I'm sure I could find the image/document blurb somewhere on the internet given enough time.
The cat 2s are something I missed entirely. They are interesting and honestly the idea is fascinating to me. and if I ever remake this video I will mention them! Thanks for watching!
Interesting discrepancy Halsey actually theorized and all but knew about the spartan IIIs. Word gets around. Everything was confirmed when she saw noble team.
True yeah, but overall she didn’t know know until she saw them. Before it was just half brained theories and when she realized they were real she wasn’t surprised but she was certainly irritated. Thanks for watching!
Fun Fact, Emile Skinned people so they sent him to fight aliens instead
Yup. He’s a bit crazy. Thanks for watching!
"Better" is subjective. Actually, no it's not. SII's were superior in every way, as far as the person goes. Reworked nervous systems etc. Gave way to much faster response times. Something like under 7ms response times. But it wasn't cost effective and so wasn't realistic to sustain. So, like the F22 versus the F35, a cheaper and more cost effective supersoldier was created. But surviving SIIs could reap the benefits of SIII and SIV upgrades...they could opt to gain any new augmentations or suit upgrades, making the SII even more deadly. But above all, what made the SII more superior, come SIIIs and SIVs was their experience out in the field. I mean, I would venture to say that Kelly, Fred and Linda and all of Red Team had probably the most "unit experience." In fact, Fred and Kelly lead Red Team at one point. Well, Fred was first in command of Red Team and Kelly second. They had pretty much been fully deployed ever since Reach. So come the SIV program they had a shit-load of experience under their belt. But having the enhanced reflexes/ superconductor nerve endings made it so that SIIs could practically see in bullet time. I hate praising the show for anything but the combat scenes are as I imagined them. It depicts the Spartan II's speed as it should be.
To each their own! I really like the 3s and always have. Thanks for watching!