This BRIDGEPORT RX8 Engine Might BLOW UP Instantly - Hybrid Renesis 13b

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  • @shawnsmith4404
    @shawnsmith4404 Před měsícem +23

    Dude I bought a rx8 4 months ago that flooded day 2 of having it. Your videos and a few others are the only reason I didn't sell it right after. Love and hate relationship right now but more love then hate and can't wait to have it at 100%

  • @no_tripple
    @no_tripple Před měsícem +22

    From the moment I discovered your channel I was mesmerized by your own unique approach, expertise, and way of handling the Dorito engines. I truly appreciate and love the enthusiasm and your will to show us even the “secrets” and all the uniques of these engines. Sir, I applaud you and you’ve won me as a fan. I aspire to have your confidence and experience with the rotaries.
    I want to see your video viewership levels of at least Rob Dahm’s,
    Keep them videos coming, cause we like what we see. Keep it RAD

    • @NotNicot
      @NotNicot Před měsícem +1

      This is exactly how i feel, this channel deserves so much more for the great content it outputs

    • @InsideOfMyOwnMind
      @InsideOfMyOwnMind Před měsícem +2

      Rob Dahm is also a very knowledgeable participant with the viewer's best interests equally in mind but he uses more eye candy and for better or worse that's what sells. Personally if I was actually looking to build I would come here first.

  • @03mrgsxr1000
    @03mrgsxr1000 Před měsícem +13

    I have a bridgeported hybrid rx8 and I love the engine! Made good hp and the brap is unreal!

    • @brosshows
      @brosshows Před měsícem

      What kind of power did it make and how many kms did you put on it?

    • @devultra1125
      @devultra1125 Před měsícem +1

      @@brosshows uhm, excuse me Sir, we don't use metric system here.

    • @brosshows
      @brosshows Před měsícem

      @@devultra1125 ah I forgot, let me rephrase. How many bald eagles per hamburger?

    • @devultra1125
      @devultra1125 Před měsícem

      @@brosshows Ah yes, finally I understand. It made about 5 hamburgers per square baseball feet

    • @03mrgsxr1000
      @03mrgsxr1000 Před měsícem

      It’s currently made 180ish at the wheels on a low reading Dyno and on a run in tune. Will have it back to the Dyno soon for some power runs

  • @florinpenciu939
    @florinpenciu939 Před měsícem +9

    Great work man! ....and you are absolutely right no one has any data about this build and for us the RX8 fans ....we hope it will work to finally have about 300 ish hp to be suited for the chaise.
    Keep up the good work and good luck!

    • @hairconditioner976
      @hairconditioner976 Před měsícem

      if it makes 200whp i would call it a success, anything less wouldn't be worth building it

    • @no_tripple
      @no_tripple Před měsícem

      @@hairconditioner976 N/A?

    • @florinpenciu939
      @florinpenciu939 Před měsícem

      @@hairconditioner976 the 231 renesis makes 200-220whp at max with full upgrades, so i hope for all the work the ren-hybrid makes at least these numbers N/A otherwise its a waste ....as for turbo setup for sure it will make more power and can benefit from the Rx7 housings. I am exited lets see :D

    • @hairconditioner976
      @hairconditioner976 Před měsícem +2

      @@florinpenciu939 they make 238hp stock on paper, but in reality it's maybe 180ish at the wheels if in good condition. I have heard of people getting around 230 at the wheels with renesis hybrid but with full bridgeport, so I hope he can brake in two hundreds at the wheels with half bridge.
      I think 300ish hp could be possible with some crazy porting and itb setup but, that would be completely undrivable on the street and would cos some crazy money, probably wouldn't be worth it.

    • @florinpenciu939
      @florinpenciu939 Před měsícem +1

      @@no_tripple naturally aspirated engine

  • @BeforeZack
    @BeforeZack Před měsícem +5

    Keep going, we definitely need hard proof on these motors whether they work or don’t work

  • @phillipliems7963
    @phillipliems7963 Před měsícem +2

    Don't listen to the H8rs!! I'm so excited for this build and it's not like this is your first stack 😂 I followed Kyle Mohan's hybrid build but he gave 0 build details and lookes like it cost 100 rx8 seats! Best channel on youtube. Keeping it RAD over here!

  • @willlong4258
    @willlong4258 Před 18 dny

    I clearanced all my side seals by hand, with a piece of 1500 wet/dry paper, and 6 thou feeler gauges down the backs of the side seals, as mentioned in the vid. Also put all new seals and resurfaced housings/irons in. Resulted in 110-115psi across the whole motor.

  • @TheRealMax77
    @TheRealMax77 Před měsícem +7

    excited for this build!

  • @MrCool00236
    @MrCool00236 Před 26 dny +1

    Looking forward to the results. I'm going to be building 2 RX8 engines. One of them will be hybrid, but I'm going to machine the rotors for RX7 apex seals. Playing with the idea of just cleaning up the stock intakes and using a semi pp approach to better match the flow of the exhaust without needing to bridgeport. In Japan right now but I'll be back home in August to start machining and hopefully starting them in September.

  • @JRosariohomestead
    @JRosariohomestead Před měsícem +2

    You’ve done your research, and seem to have a plan before you do things like this. Your videos are awesome!! I am waiting on to see if there are power gains to hybridize the Reny.

  • @rotaryperfection
    @rotaryperfection Před měsícem +4

    3:30. Actually, there will be more heat on that apex seal due to exhaust flow in that area. That's why the seal eventually warped with Mazda Trix over time. Now, for your short term experiment, you may be good for a little while.

    • @williamporter7495
      @williamporter7495 Před měsícem

      The heat on exhaust ports on renesis is due to 90° exhaust path.
      Put traditional along side renesis, more flow, less heat. Simple

    • @rotaryperfection
      @rotaryperfection Před měsícem

      @williamporter7495 You're missing the point. When you add PP exhaust to the shorter Renesis apex seal, you increase the heat on the apex seal itself, with the seal now being exposed to the open exhaust port. Without the PP exhaust, it keeps that shorter apex seal cooler. Now you will releave some of the heat on the side seals, but that heat now goes to the apex seal due to PP exhaust exit.
      During development, the new 8C range extender in the MX-30, Mazda had a problem with the normal Renesis sized 2mm apex seals warping due to the higher heat from the increased compression ratio. Mazda had to engineer thicker 2.5mm seals to fix the problem. Keep in mind that the 8C doesn't even have PP exhaust.

  • @boredgaminglowammo9335
    @boredgaminglowammo9335 Před měsícem +3

    You had me at, Bridgeport

  • @InsideOfMyOwnMind
    @InsideOfMyOwnMind Před měsícem +1

    The side seal jig in the drill press is just mind blowing. It looks like the secret is you have to use a rotar tip of the type your building and the abrasive drum has to fit the corner pocket as closely as is practical to get the right end profile.

  • @lexeg1
    @lexeg1 Před měsícem +3

    Don't care what people say. I just want to see this thing done

  • @tlovsoe4211
    @tlovsoe4211 Před měsícem +3

    I think a divider would be better than a helmholtz resonator on the siamese port

  • @rucarnuts13
    @rucarnuts13 Před měsícem +3

    Always been curious about a hybrid Renesis. I know nothing of the Renesis, I’m a 12A guy, but I’d long been told those engines big achilles heel were the side-exit exhaust ports and the poor OMP oiling in the early engines. Looking forward to seeing how this engine holds up.

  • @thorsullivan5767
    @thorsullivan5767 Před měsícem +1

    Awesome content. I would love to see you Continue improving on this after the fact to dial in a standard of a “hybrid Renesis”. Yk if it fails, determine why, and make improvements for a tried and true engine. This is Def a huge bonus for the rx8 community.

  • @craigcoghlan546
    @craigcoghlan546 Před 21 dnem

    Now you have my attention, get the middle exhaust port working

  • @cooper1091
    @cooper1091 Před měsícem

    ooh nice
    keep doing what you do, i'm sure you make a lot of us smile

  • @lugnut93
    @lugnut93 Před měsícem

    Keep it going! We need somebody to push this through.

  • @josezuma2116
    @josezuma2116 Před měsícem

    I know 2 renesis running with RX7 rotors. 1 of them was the landspeed (600whp +). Sidesides are fine as long as you don't leave any sharp edge in the intake ports.

  • @BeaverLakeMotorsports
    @BeaverLakeMotorsports Před měsícem

    For renesis side seal clearancing I have 2 feeler gauges cut down to allow them to be horizontal and shim the hole outer side of the seal so it doesn't bow out, I find that it gives more accurate & repeatable results.

  • @jaredrule1431
    @jaredrule1431 Před měsícem

    Have you thought about ditching the Renesis centre iron and swapping it out for an FD one? With a hybrid build, this would be a good way to ditch the terrible Siamese exhaust port, driving more exhaust flow out the peripheral ports.

  • @jasonskinner1652
    @jasonskinner1652 Před měsícem

    Hybrid renisis. Braps go up, power goes down. Send it anyway bro. Its fun playing with this stuff. I like youre thinking for the exhaust. Try something different! Im building one too by the way😂

  • @mattmartinez3298
    @mattmartinez3298 Před měsícem

    I've been gathering parts to build a hybrid. I'm planning on using a 12a center iron to eliminate the center exhaust port.

  • @Ebb1337
    @Ebb1337 Před měsícem

    Excited to see this thing put together! Image an NA hybrid 20b in the RX8, if that's even possible? Bet it would feel amazing!

  • @bobbyshaftoe
    @bobbyshaftoe Před měsícem +1

    Renesis Hybrid is was brings me here. I wanna see a non-bridge hybrid with all stock plumbing, one with proper headers, one with proper headers and proper intake, ...turbo.. M90 supercharger... electric supercharger... etc.. with dyno and low end torque numbers .... 😛

    • @tlovsoe4211
      @tlovsoe4211 Před měsícem

      I don't know about an electric compressor.but testing especially if you want to control all you variables (same engine with same cc rotors same dyno...) it would be very costly

  • @ImEasyAs
    @ImEasyAs Před měsícem

    Ask Brettus on the forum. He's the rx8 tuning guru here in NZ. He's tuned a few hybrids now. Dyno's weren't impressive ... they need a turbo.

  • @proautojapan6152
    @proautojapan6152 Před měsícem +1

    Hurry up build it an start it up- quit yah yapping 😛

  • @Darkipod
    @Darkipod Před měsícem +1

    You should probably reach out to Kyle Mohan Racing and ask him this. He claims to know all about the hybrid builds and was allegedly the engine builder at the time.

    • @jimbowcracklehead8071
      @jimbowcracklehead8071 Před měsícem

      He also tries to sell product foe mazdatrix, so not everything he says is entirely make or break. However he does have great pointers

  • @mflbikes1870
    @mflbikes1870 Před měsícem

    You had me at bridgeport

  • @pichix7
    @pichix7 Před měsícem

    Hello. I got one for more than year hybrid five port exhaust for Bridgeport with the stock Ecu.

  • @brandonslager5493
    @brandonslager5493 Před měsícem

    I love it can’t wait to hear this thing.

  • @KelJDM
    @KelJDM Před měsícem

    Can you make a how to video of how to take out and dissassemble an engine for rebuild? 🙏 I have not found a good one yet.

  • @Freeride600
    @Freeride600 Před měsícem

    I'm really curious to see how this works out. Couple years back i was super curious about pushing the NA renesis past stock form but found very little info.

  • @gammaying6595
    @gammaying6595 Před měsícem +1

    What will happen if you dont install the thermal pellet? I've read that some people remove it.

  • @eliezermelian7192
    @eliezermelian7192 Před měsícem

    Hi, I'm looking forward to seeing how that engine works. I'll start my rebuild shortly and if that engine works. Then my rebuild will be hybrid as well. But I have several questions. Would I use cryogenic apex? Housing Water Joints Are RX8 OEMs Worth?
    thank you.

  • @byron1dagg80
    @byron1dagg80 Před měsícem

    So excited to see this rip

  • @jvest6515
    @jvest6515 Před měsícem

    Haven't watched the whole video but on my renehybrid I machined my rotors tu fit rx7 seals... But I was talking to someone in a FB page for the Renesis hybrid he was running it with rx8 super seals I believe he said. And it was running good.

    • @jvest6515
      @jvest6515 Před měsícem +1

      Maybe it wasn't super seals it was one of those seals tho

    • @jvest6515
      @jvest6515 Před měsícem +1

      full bridge Renehybrid does run fine on stock ECU and Intake tho

  • @sirhamsteralot3977
    @sirhamsteralot3977 Před měsícem

    oh fantastic, if you can test the rx8 seals on this build it would be fantastic since the lighter seals would be fantastic for my high rpm build

    • @sirhamsteralot3977
      @sirhamsteralot3977 Před měsícem

      oh by the way, for the exhaust headers i did find my google sheets file again where i did some calculations on exhaust header length with some estimations based on temperature etc. Maybe it can help you or give you some ideas; docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kf-FS71NOP9RTY3IKh5ScZVLNCHWvqFYnDSZjqx6KHE/edit?usp=sharing (do note these are basically napkin math based entirely on the frequency of the engine, however it may be a good starting point)

  • @zaferakdogan3204
    @zaferakdogan3204 Před měsícem +1

    I did a turbo hybrid renesis with the rotor rx7 the engine heats less with the additional scarf say it doesn't work it's lie I will show you a video on it that it works aimed at 700 hp( with RX7 Houssings)

  • @Yorchoice1
    @Yorchoice1 Před měsícem +6

    It works with RX-8 apex Seals I have the proof I can send you a video that it works

    • @rotaryperfection
      @rotaryperfection Před měsícem

      Yea but for how many miles and were you racing? Over the long term, you're still exposing the thinner apex seal to additional heat of the peripheral exhaust port. More heat on the thinner seal, it will eventually warp. This is what Mazda Trix experienced.

    • @Yorchoice1
      @Yorchoice1 Před měsícem

      We still testing in the Dino so far. We have not blown it up.

    • @nobodyspecial5026
      @nobodyspecial5026 Před měsícem +1

      There are two factors
      1. The shallower beam on the Renesis apex seal warps much easier.
      2. The shallower apex slot in the Renesis rotor wallows out quicker.
      It was a mistake that Mazda and RX8 owners paid for greatly. A Renesis engine will never sustain 120+ psig compression long term with them. Reusing Renesis rotors with any notable mileage on them is a guarantee to never achieving optimum compression.
      But in the land of youboob, 30 seconds of attention harlotry = long term success.
      .

    • @SuperOzidude
      @SuperOzidude Před měsícem

      Move the cam around 👍

  • @hairconditioner976
    @hairconditioner976 Před měsícem

    love this dude

  • @57rotary
    @57rotary Před měsícem

    Could you bridge port the exhaust port please in a way that does something. Never been done so it would be experimental and you would get a high audience from your videos

  • @kevinobrien3063
    @kevinobrien3063 Před měsícem

    Hi
    Did you uprate the oil pressure regulator.
    People add shims to the front regulator ,this seems like a bad idea to me as these like a safety valve for the oil coolers.
    Does any body know what the front regulator is set too or what they are increasing it too with the shims.
    .

  • @user-sb5vt8iy5q
    @user-sb5vt8iy5q Před měsícem

    Do you have a channel where you just post races/drift courses, etc...?

  • @TrashRX8
    @TrashRX8 Před měsícem

    Doin it for the braps 😤😤😤

  • @BushidoDriver
    @BushidoDriver Před měsícem +2

    E shaft timing" .... 🤣🤣🤣
    BP on a standard renesis IS completely pointless, but in this application it will be interesting to see how it works....or doesn't.
    Great video, thanks for showing the side seal clearance process in detail, it's crucial for renesis compression/ power.
    Can't wait for the next one!

  • @noname-sd5dt
    @noname-sd5dt Před měsícem

    Fill the msp ports with melted alloy from the plates and or use a 12a centre plate?

  • @Bagios1
    @Bagios1 Před měsícem

    should i buy an series 4 turbo 2 fc or an rx8 cosmos?

  • @thor3901
    @thor3901 Před měsícem

    My question with the hybrid builds is is it worth it? The problem with the Renesis seems to be that the performance ceiling is low at about 400-450hp through forced induction which then severely reduces the reliability. If a hybrid motor can increase the performance and reliability ceiling then it would be worthwhile but if all a hybrid motor does is increase complexity without any gains what's the point? Assuming it can be done, why bother? That's the question that needs to be answered I think.

  • @dgmdgm7271
    @dgmdgm7271 Před měsícem +2

    Please, can you specify when tell "tolerance of 4000 and 10000?" I am European and I would like to understand this data well. Thanks in advance.

    • @theyodellingpickle4203
      @theyodellingpickle4203 Před měsícem +2

      its just the measurement, its thousandths of an inch, like 0.004 is 4 thousandths of an inch, same thing with 10 thousandths its 0.010. its a simpler way of saying these really small numbers, and since hes based in america, we use silly imperial measurements to clearance things like piston rings as a similar piston engine comparison. hope this helps! :3

    • @dgmdgm7271
      @dgmdgm7271 Před měsícem +1

      ​@theyodellingpickle4203 thank you for the explanation. Greetings from Italy.

  • @CB-858
    @CB-858 Před měsícem

    ive been wondering for a while now why your audio quality dropped from what it was back before you moved and stuff?

  • @DANTE_YT
    @DANTE_YT Před 21 dnem

    Goopy seals ma man they don't shatter?

  • @rx8tom
    @rx8tom Před měsícem

    Are you doing any sort of oil pressure mods?

  • @soloracer1
    @soloracer1 Před měsícem

    Aussy video" Semi PP HYBRID 13B RENESIS RX8" has running hybrid engine.

  • @fourfive55555
    @fourfive55555 Před měsícem

    Damn my last comment about apex seals I didn't know you were going NA I know the hybrid will work

  • @thatcornfedrx8guy372
    @thatcornfedrx8guy372 Před měsícem

    I was gonna say for the RX8 apex seal, add castor oil in your gas for longer longevity

  • @okumakamizu3030
    @okumakamizu3030 Před měsícem

    One of my heros)

  • @andrewable2634
    @andrewable2634 Před měsícem

    My logic says that people never documented results because it was dissapointing af in an N/A configuration. I figure a turbo hybrid configuration would be super trick cause of all that extra exhaust flow.

  • @turbofb24
    @turbofb24 Před měsícem

    I did one but never got to put power to it or tune it. Live priorities changed. Do have video of it idleling and reving on my channel/page. Turbofb

  • @orlyrx7CanutoUltra7
    @orlyrx7CanutoUltra7 Před měsícem

    Hi,big fan here, I own 88 RX7, fueltech , pro Jay bully, water/ meth inj. I saw how you installed the fueltech on the red FB, will you show me your maps, direct from unit to make comparison to what I got.

  • @F31YX
    @F31YX Před měsícem

    My friend have an hybrid rx8 and to be honest it has more torque on the low end he has a street port and he put 255 whp on a roller dyno

  • @bumpstart
    @bumpstart Před měsícem

    just build it with that r5 or the gsl-se centreplate and port it . bing issue with siamese exhaust , fixed

  • @authentist1639
    @authentist1639 Před měsícem +1

    Would it be worth picking up a 2005 Automatic Shinka special edition? It’s got 90k on the body but 16k on the engine. I plan to put a 20b in it when I get enough money in a year or two. If not, how possible is it to swap a manual in the auto?

    • @Ayane13b
      @Ayane13b Před měsícem +1

      Autos have different engines than the manuals. 4 port vs 6 port. If you want a 20b, just wait until you have the funds to get the car and do the build. Otherwise you'll be stuck with an auto RX-8 lol. Or just get a manual and enjoy it as is whether or not you swap it

    • @swampyfox8688
      @swampyfox8688 Před měsícem

      It’s a massive pain. Hold out for a manual.

    • @tlovsoe4211
      @tlovsoe4211 Před měsícem

      correct me if i am wrong but does it not require you to relocate the steering rack if you fit a 20b.

    • @authentist1639
      @authentist1639 Před měsícem

      @@tlovsoe4211 not too sure, haven’t done the most research into it yet as it’s just an idea for now

    • @authentist1639
      @authentist1639 Před měsícem

      @@Ayane13b yeah I figured I can’t tell but after looking it up the only 6 port autos were the 2006 and above so unfortunately the one I saw is a 4 port. Sadly in my area there aren’t many shinka specials left that are manual I’ve only seen 2 in the last year and a half

  • @1aarimont
    @1aarimont Před měsícem

    Thank you, I only find stacking and no evidence that it works.

  • @dubbleA100
    @dubbleA100 Před měsícem

    It'll work, people don't know what they talking about

  • @philipriddy8663
    @philipriddy8663 Před měsícem

    Ape Automotive in New Zealand 🇳🇿 build them 🤙🏻

  • @swampyfox8688
    @swampyfox8688 Před měsícem

    My brain hurts now. Thanks RAD 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @StraightLineCycles
    @StraightLineCycles Před měsícem

    i say develop your own apex seals.

  • @Liquorpuss
    @Liquorpuss Před měsícem

    REsurface those housings. Pour oil on them and watch it bead up. pour oil on them after it has been resurfaced, not milled, and the oil will have retention. It's like not honing your cylinders or reusing brake rotors and not resurfacing them. It is even worse because of all the seals in the rotary. I'm not sure why that is a lost art on the rotary community.

    • @kevinobrien3063
      @kevinobrien3063 Před měsícem

      That a hard one, you would have to try this on a new from factory plate to see how the oil is retained.
      There is a lot more oil being injected in a rotor engine than a piston one so does it matter.
      How fast does it take to get to the polished look after lapping .
      I think the engine runs most of it life on the polish look after break in.
      If you lap the plates you loose the nitriding so is why the oil in retained.

    • @Liquorpuss
      @Liquorpuss Před měsícem

      @@kevinobrien3063 The nitride coating is .003-.005 in thickness. Resurfacing takes off .001 or less. Just a lap not a mill. Allows for proper seal break in as well as oil retention which matter on the overall surface wear regardless how much oil is injected. AT what point do the plates become polished in appearance is a good question.

  • @Noahh_jp
    @Noahh_jp Před měsícem

    whats your favorite dorito? I prefer spicy sweet chili (purple bag)

  • @Geerod
    @Geerod Před měsícem

    So I love this engine build. Now if only we can build something like this and combine it with a Prius power train making a electric hybrid system. Did you hear Mazda is making a new wankel engines

  • @JJSneed
    @JJSneed Před měsícem

    Mel's old bumper?

    • @RADPotential
      @RADPotential  Před měsícem +1

      It's a replica one. Not the one from upstairs.

  • @ADudesRotary
    @ADudesRotary Před měsícem

    Is it 4 no 5, perhaps 6, hang on i got this 8....... have i got any credibility left?

  • @AzureTF
    @AzureTF Před měsícem +1

    Nobody who knows what they are talking about are saying that the engine won't work. It's simply just not going to magically give you any more horsepower than a good stock renesis engine, and then you lose all driveability because the exhaust port adds a ton of overlap, which the renesis is not designed for.
    There are NA hybrid builds with dyno graphs out there and they don't get any more power than a fresh stock engine. If you go turbo it will still be just simply worse than a REW motor swap for the same reasons above. Hybrids have no low end torque and you don't get any usable power until you get past like 5500 rpm. I can't wait for you to get to the same conclusion that everyone else does when the engine is running (because it will run, just not how you think).
    Everytime someone does a hybrid they post a video it running. Then it either disappears from the internet, or they switch to an REW, and there is a good reason for that.

  • @e.v.a.l.s
    @e.v.a.l.s Před měsícem

    my dad has been building chevy 350s since he was in diapers. and he says the rotary hybrid won't work

  • @pichix7
    @pichix7 Před měsícem

    Hello. I got one for more than year hybrid five port exhaust for Bridgeport with the stock Ecu.