Why We’re Leaving Donut - BIGTIME
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- čas přidán 20. 06. 2024
- Today we're talking about our tough decision to leave Donut and whats next. Welcome to BigTime!
Go check out our Discord: bit.ly/BigTime_Discord
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Relatable garage builds > reaction videos
I don't know what you're on about, Donut makes car reviews and mod stuff more than reaction content.
@@ChefandTheArbistor😂
@@ChefandTheArbistorokay donut media burner
@@ChefandTheArbistor My man cappin so hard, new donut might even hire him as staff.
the view counts disagree with you buddy, sorry it's the truth.
You two are the biggest reason I kept watching Donut after "Up to Speed" stopped.
I loved tech kitchen or whatever
Oh, science garage actually
I really liked up to speed, I didn’t realize that it went away and that I missed it
Science garage and Up to speed CARRIED that channel.
Up to speed did not just stop abruptly, it got too "memy" imho. The later episodes are just full of jokes and miss a lot of key information, only scratching the surface level.
You guys just started this channel, have 1 video and ALREADY have 865k subs. This speaks volumes to how much people love you guys and are looking forward to your next chapter.
this is the comment I was looking for
its been 3 hours and hes gained 20k wtf
It’s fake
If the marketing guy is involved. Well played!
900k 6hours later Sheeeeeeeeeeeesh
One of the reasons I haven't been watching Donut that much is because it stopped feeling like a group of guys having fun in a garage and started feeling like a business automotive YT channel. I won't say the soul was lost, but it had changed.
I’m right there with ya
most the soul was gone compared to day 1
It started to feel like Mr. Beast but for cars. I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed the dip in quality at Donut.
same with doug demuro
You know Donut is falling apart when James, who known as the most explosive, expressive one on channel started to look burned out and losing passion. I noticed that from the last 2 years of his involvement in videos, he looked tired and don't want to do it anymore. That's definitely gotta do with the "business owner" not listening to them anymore.
It is time… let’s go boys!!
Would love to see a MCM-BigTime crossover video!
✌🏻
Hell yeah MCM
MCM4LYF
MCM and Big time maybe? 4 boys one car or something idk
First reaction : abject horror.
Second reaction: Thank God I'm not the only one who noticed that Donut has become trend chasing clickbait corporate nonsense.
Its sad you can tell the guys there like James and Nolan are not happy with it either, but they no longer control what content is made.
On the one hand yah im sad what the channel turned into... on the other hand im feeling abject relief that this wasn't due to someone didling kids or assaulting someone or some other messed up shit...
It's been that way since they first hit the viral circuit, did they get worse?
Donut stuff is so overproduced. Music is wild, foley is way too much, cuts every second - just simmer down. They hit their stride about a year ago and now it’s nonsense
@@iandesoucey9369 it was headed that way slightly but it REALLY got crazy after that first Nissan ad. That's what started multiple tiers of advertisements where you could pay to not have the yellow bar at the bottom. It became a lot less about the community and more about grabbing a new audience you don't have to care about every video.
Reading between the lines, its pretty clear that after Donut got bought, all the suits were interested in was "what's going to get us the most views?" (IE, what's going to make us the most money?) While the creative team that made Donut so successful to begin with was ignored in favor of more "mainstream" clickbaity videos.
I agree with your statement. There is a lot of risk avoidant mentality going on right now in all the industries I know of. What made money last year is what the leadership at Donut focuses on, instead of experimenting with new and different content. I think that's why J&J left Donut.
@@SteveWeltmanit's one reason I'm following more smaller accounts. I'm more into the off road side of car culture, and the videos from smaller creators doing cool shit are way more fun than "reActiNg tO cHiNesE caR pRodUct fAiLurEs!"
Great words
"They (sales and marketing people) end up running the company. And the product people get driven out of the decision making forums. And the company forgets what it means to make great products." - Steve Jobs 1995
Money Pit was not just one of the best things Donut did, it was one of the best things on CZcams. VERY few channels were doing anything with that level of planning and production value etc.
"I was a comedian working at an engineering company" is the most Workaholics lore ive ever heard lmao
gottabefresh
I usually experience the opposite.
It's common out here. I'm a musician moonlighting as an engineer
Fahim anwar was also an engineer for boeing.
Welcome To LA
Long story short: Wealthy people bought Donut, and now their money first mentality has ruined it all.
Same thing for car throttle
@@thecodex0994
…and Hoonigan
Sounds like an all too familiar story.
@@thecodex0994and hoonigan
Saving folks 20 minutes, you da real MVP.
Take time to protect yourselves from burnout (not burnouts)! You’ve got millions rooting for you. We will be here, waiting, excitedly. Headed for the BigTime
You two were the main reason I watched donut. I could tell that y’all really enjoyed the work. I’m really glad that y’all got together and got a channel for yourselves. I hope it goes great for you guys and I’ll be here watching
The fact that 60k a year is poor in LA is crazy
Really poor, I live in the Bay Area and 60k is like minimum wage.
There’s too much money in California everyone has so much money that everyone always pays top dollar
60k is pretty poor in most states out west at this point. Unless you're in rural Nevada, good luck!
I work in healthcare and day dream of making 60k 😅
@@intheyellowcornerdo you live in cali?
We ALL want
1. Racing
2. Car builds
3. Bro time
4. Knowledge
We know you two will provide
Facts
Hell ya 🎉
Get more female mechanic
Damn right
You don't speak for me.
...It's just a coincidence that I want all of those things 🤣
I completely agree with you guys. I thought "Real mechanic stuff" was going to be opening a window and letting fresh air coming in, but in fact, is the equivalent to closing the window and firing up the stove. I hope you bring legends like Bob Hall, giving him the time to talk and elaborate. Such amount of knowledge cannot be wasted doing reaction videos.
The fact that Jeremiah and Jobe are even in a position to leave Donut and be this close to a million subscribers already shows just how much talent and influence they have. It's obvious that Donut has settled into reaction content and partnerships with other companies, and that's okay, too. After everything they've made over the years, they earned it all. I hope James is able to retire comfortably, and it's no wonder why Jeremiah and Jobe stuck around as long as they did.
I can't wait to start supporting you guys, buying merch and viewing content. I rep the Donut hats I've bought every time I go out, and if your merch is the same quality, I'll be buying it, too. I got my buddy in Canada into Donut, and he's the one who told me about Bigtime. We'll both be tuning into your channel, and we'll still support Donut. I have such a backlog of videos to get through, but it's some of the best, most infectious stuff I've seen on CZcams. Godspeed!
James is why we fell in love with donut, Jobe and Jeremiah are the reason we’ve stuck around since 2019
This is true, and the fact that Nolan is my spirit animal 😂
Nolan and Justin are great as well. But you are 100% right.
Haven’t seen James in a video for a couple weeks tho
@@moshnroll507 was just wondering where he's been
Whenever I don't see James in a video my first thought is I hope he is still alive.
Donut slowly went from a channel about car and racing history, car science and car builds to a channel about testing cheap products and reacting to other videos every week. Hope you guys can really take it back to the OG concepts with this channel.
I pray for it.
I mean it was pretty obvious donut was a dork that didn't know shit about cars. Since day 1 I knew all these other guys carried the show, he just hired the right people while not knowing what was going on with his own youtube channel.
Well if you wanna hear them do history stuff you should listen to one of their podcasts Past Gas
@@kx250fforlifewho are you talking about? Lol
Donut is a company not a person
@@kx250fforlifeJohn Donut should go back to his travelling dentistry business, and stop trying to sell car parts.
My dad was raised in that house. Lots of great memories.
You guys only have a single video and you crushed all these milestones right off the bat. This just shows the love and support your communuty has built over the years. Starting off strong, and congrats on 1 Millions soon ❤
These two leaving feels like the end of an era.
its the start of an era dude
@@lazyboy858 not without james it isnt. he started donut.
They are the era..
That era ended a long time ago. Now they're onto something new
@@cerberus1166 so that eras over, it's. It the same but that's part of it being new
Nothing Donut puts out has the same feeling as their cheap vs. expensive 350Zs, up to speed, and money pit. Those days were the peak.
I miss Up To Speed
You missed an even better time when they had Bart
@@thexchox1554 science garage yeah those videos were pretty good
Up to speed was the best
fr nowadays they are just advertising different stuff on all videos
The entire reason I fell in love with Donut was because of Money Pit an B2B, I loved the HiLow series too but Donut changed and i think alot of us realized it with the both of you. Very excited to follow this channels growth!
As someone who likes working in admin, I am still frustrated by how a lot of people, SPECIALLY admin types, seem to forget that the job of admins and managers shouldn't be to boss people around, but to take off the busy work so that the actual operatives can do what they're good at.
I love nothing more than just trying to make things easy or automate tasks so that the people who actually make the business run can, you know, make the business run.
The only reason to watch donut has now left donut....
Agreed 👍🏻
Nolan and Justin are up there too! Hopefully they can still colab
They already had quit many of their best series
not even james is the same as before nowadays.....
This feels like when Matt and Tommy left WTF1 and made it completely forgettable.
The CZcams algorithm boosted you. This was at the TOP of my page.
You guys are going to kill it. Love you all!
I’m frankly offended it wasn’t recommended to me lol. I found out from the comments on the latest donut video
It was the first video on the top of my feed too!!
Also very top of my page as soon as I opened the app and I couldn’t be happier. One of the only times I’ve been impressed with CZcams and the algorithm lol
It was on the top of my feed too but tbh I thought it was fake
Same here
The fact that I don't even know how to drive a stick shift but still watch your content you two guys make is a testament to how good you two are what you do!
Given that y'all have almost made it to a million subs in less than a week, I'd say there's a lot of us that agree with your creative direction.
Kudos to Donut for letting you two announce your new channel on a Donut video. Immediate subscription.
Pretty sure they're still friends, I mean James is married to Zach's sister
@@flywanfr?
@@flywan James doesn't own Donut.. They sold their souls to the worst of the worst media companies..
Shows Hoonigan how it should have been done!
Donut’s trying to avoid the fate of Car Throttle lol. Smart move.
Jeremy from ECS here, Zach you were one of my favorite guys to work alongside there. If you ever need photo or video work hit me up dude. Congrats on the big move, proud of you.
If you still work at ecs get me free shipping in canada
Your areally solid guy, Im glad it's not really bad blood, I hope one day we will see a collaboration
@@Northeastcaperdawg you’re lucky if your package even arrives from ecs
Zach should go back to ECS on the side honestly
@@yaboimula579
The two dudes I really enjoy watching the most on Donut. Don't need to wish you two luck, this will be a great ride and we're here for it.
I knew this was coming since I met you guys, but I was waiting for you to become BigTime before releasing the video of you being terrified while riding my Jet Scooter in the alley...hahahha.
We know you wont have the budget Donut has, but our hearts are with you. Lets fucking go!!!! You were the reason why many of us were watching donut
They can if we help that’s the thing people don’t realize if we help each other we can be successful.
Donut had to start somewhere. These guys have an audience already, that’s huge.
#truth
@@bradthackston5217 No, they can't have the big budgets like Donut, don't lie to yourself. I don't think you understand how big Donut actually is now. They're bought out by a multibillion dollar company and has expanded their clothing line all over the world. Besides, they don't want it to be as big as Donut.
I think low budget is a lot of the appeal of many channels. I don't think this one will be different, and as they grow in following and money, so too will the content. A grassroots beginning is a ton of fun to experience as a viewer. Good luck boys.
Garage builds and motorcycle stuff. LETS GOOO. I’m so happy you two started this channel. I’ll be a viewer as long as you keep this mindset. BIG TIME
You two are literally the reason I started watching Donut Media. Love seeing this!
As an Englishman, an idiot, and a very part time donut viewer. It took me a VERY long time to realise you weren’t both the same person.
You're not alone and you're not an idiot
Not alone and I realize they don't look the same.
You’ve been fooled. They are the same person and this is tricks with mirrors and camera hacks.
😂😂😂😂Same
Despite them like looking different they seem similar even their presentations. I always thought they were the same person lol.
The moment Donut sold equity to an ‘investment group’ sealed its fate. Random suits looking at Excel spreadsheets started pushing for cashflow metrics and ‘maximizing value’ without a care as to the core values and pedigree of Donut.
Thank you for making this brilliant decision and I hope to follow your success with this new channel.
yep, those suits only care about the numbers because the moment they get kicked out or burned the company to the ground, they've built their portfolio and made their money. All on paper, they were successful but in reality, they were poor managers.
Donut had pedagree?? 😂
Private equity ruins everything
They were sold in 2021 so unless you have disliked them since then and all their series then it wasn’t just the private equity that ruined them
What do the suits do? They look at a spreadsheet and see that certain videos do better than others. So they start doing more of those, and improving them… having more money and oversight doesn’t necessarily ruin a small biz
this is the exact type of content that i’ve been wanting to see Donut do, and as they’ve grown I knew it was going to be harder and harder for them to do that. Nothing but love for channels that make it big, but i’m so excited to see what a place where creativity is safe can produce.
You two have always been my favorite on the Donut channel, and i can’t wait to see how good i know this will channel will be
I loved watching both of you gentleman throughout the years I hope for the best ill be coming with you!!
Jeremiah is just that guy. I mean, he talks about how he wasn't exactly favored at first, but 5 days after posting these two almost have a million subs. 🐐
Talk about the ultimate getting your tires pumped hey? Can’t imagine the relief these two boys got after so many views and subs in so little time. Super excited for you guys!
These 2 are definitely the best out of the donut crew
Glad you guys are better off! Excited for motorcycle content, maybe a trackday?
Tbh the amount of donut employees that lacked automotive knowledge always blew my mind. Most of them never gave me “car guy” vibes.
I think that's actual ok or even good, IF, it leads to a passion and knowledge. I'd like to see that average joe like myself that doesn't know much be able to work for a company like them and learn and get under the hood of a car
Yeah I liked it. Made me feel like if these guys could learn as they go then I shouldnt be afraid to give it a go.
Like Nolan? Great guy, good on camera, but more of a Motor Trend writer than a grease monkey. Most magazine writers couldn't fix a ham sandwich.
Well do you want mechanic content or car entertainment? Theres only so many ways to replace brakes on a car that after the 3rd video its all the same. Bolting on car parts without modifications is in similar faschion.
@@bravobrkfashion 😉
I was incredibly confused when y'alls made the video about the S13 engine autopsy and the rebuild never came, so glad theres going to be more of the grassroots stuff, im hype
I love to see you guys happy. I love to see you guys willing to take the plunge and to do it for your own hearts and as creatives. I've spent enough time in the business world to know a tiny bit of what that means. A lot of people never take that leap. Bless you guys. You can definitely see your hearts smiling in this video, even if there's a little bit of terror and no guarantees of how this turns out.
I think most of us could see the shift in Donut content over the last few years. There's still some fun stuff happening, and I wish them the best. I'm not even a car guy in any proper sense, but I love them, and moneypit and Science Garage and Bumber2Bumper type stuff is what always made me love Donut. Can't wait to see what you guys do with what brings you life.
May you be blessed to find the technical guys, camera people, and all the parts and pieces and people you need to make the stuff you love.
You two guys are the reason Donut was so big over the past 3-4 years. I love that you now will have your own channel. WOW. Congratulations! Yes, I've subscribed.
Don't forget James
@@2alawabidingcitzen James was overrated, annoying, and worthless in the shop. Plus most of what he said was written by Jerry.
@@robjohnston1026damn dude calm yourself
Jeremiah being a biomedical engineer/standup comedian is such a hilarious and perfect backstory for him 😂😂😂
i had no idea lol
Love this for you guys! Greatness ahead, best of wishes dude! 🤘
I am stoked and excited to see what comes. Big respect to you both following your dreams. Huge inspiration!
"As the only 2 guys who did any work at Donut....we decided to leave." 😂😂
Actually if they get Aaron to join them that would be THE BEST
@@igork9691 I was thinking the same but I forgot his name 😆
You know they joked about possibly maybe hearting this comment.
What does donut do these days?
@@JoeBleaux69reaction content
I cant believe Donut didn’t want a video/series dedicated to building your Silvia! I think I speak for everyone, I’m looking very forward to this channel.
That’s what happens when corporate establishments buy something. They turn it into another shit, clickbait CZcams channel to get the most clicks instead of making actual content that we car people want to see. It’s sad. Screw those corporate drones who bought them and destroyed the channel. I really do hope Donut falls off the map soon and people stop supporting these corporate buyouts.
I can relate to you both so much in different ways. I’m mechanically inclined, but not a “car guy”, really. I work in the medical field of heart surgery. But watching you both on Donut made me feel like, “if these guys can do this, I can to.” So now I’ve built a DF Goblin from a donor Chevy Cobalt SS and in the process, I reached a lot of mile markers, so to speak. I pulled my first engine, rebuilt my first engine, rebuilt my first manual transmission, and the list goes on. I’m excited to see where you guys go and what you do.
i’m ready, you guys are awesome, glad to hear y’all chase what you truly wanna do, and hyped for some of the content you talked about. can’t wait to see it happen🙌🏼
“I’m never on time but I’m disciplined “ “I’m always on time, don’t know what’s going on”. 😂😂😂 classic
As someone from the Midwest, this tracks
ying yang
These are my two states... and fluctuate between the two at least 3 to 4 times a day.
It’s important that you both know: we as the fans and audience noticed the changes that pushed you both away, and we are all on your side to blow this channel up by taking it back to grassroots builds and making the content YOU love to make. It translates through the screen, I can promise you that. Money Pit was amazing and we want more like that, so stoked for you boys!!
agreed
Facts
I love that you guys are doing your own thing. It's your passion, and that will certainly come through!! DO YA THANG BOYS!
Donut has changed from it's fun interesting B2B / Up to Speed roots to tiktok style mainstream content. It's so relieving hearing the presenters express what i felt was happening to Donut, and twice as relieving to hear them say that they're going to make their own Fun, Interesting and most of all Creative content. Good on you boys, never forget what you set out to do when made this channel, I'm subscribed already.
I basically stopped watching donut about a year ago. You could tell the channel just wasn't the same anymore. I'm stoked for you guys! Bring back the old school content!
Agreed... it's become WAYYYYYyyyy too formulaic... super predictable "safe" content.. I'm excited for the future with this channel. I'm down for the ride!
lowkey same, it feels like the quality of the vids has gone down over time, i didn't even realize it but i havent watched donut in ages
Donut and hoonigan went downhill fast…
@@Eco19throtl too
When Donut started to be in car manufacturer’s advertisements, I knew it was becoming a corporate hellhole
Same thing happened to Hoonigan. Everyone's gone now after Wheel Pros gutted the whole operation.
I knew something was up at donut when they was trying to sell me a Nissan EV crossover
@@McNasty43 also in the Uk with Car Throttle
Yeah, first couple times seeing Nissan adverts on Donut videos that weren't the actual video was a huge mindfu¢k, and made me smell change in the air.
Yep, never sell out. Once you do, it's all about the money
It tends not to matter as much what the content is - if you enjoy what you're doing, that passion comes through in the final product and people enjoy watching that. When you are burnt out and beaten down by the process, it shows and becomes less fun to watch. Glad to see you guys taking this leap of faith and looking forward to some greatness!
Good luck with everything. Look forward to seeing the videos!
Sensationalism is destroying the entertainment industry, but especially CZcams.
Recurrent Ventures, private equity more enshittification
Imagine jumping off a big, known and well established show, not knowing exactly to expect, and not even a week later have 2mill views, 200k likes and over 600k subs!
It's safe to say, you did the right thing for YOU guys, and I'm hyped for it!
Goes to show what is for is for you. A blessing
Never heard of donut till yesterday watching the Chinese car video. Thought it was terrible. Then this popped in my feed today, that intro was corny pretending to work in the garage . With that said I hope I never see another donut video or whatever this is either.
You are just another fool.
@@MrBalockaye ok
@@MrBalockaye this is not an airport you do not need to announce your departure lmao, its crazy how the only people who hate are the people who have less
I was so confused seeing this new channel pop up on my feed, im super happy to see you guys branching out and attempting your own adventures. I watched all throughout hs and have a few projects going on slowly, big part of my later childhood
You 2 are honestly the two that kept me watching donut after it was sold. I fw pumpernickel and nolan but yall 2 were the best, definitely got my support 100%
Money pit miata is what got me into donut. We dont need 100k budgets on a build, they are fun, but unobtainable for most viewers. Money pit miata was in depth and made building on a budget look so fun.
Yeah me too, I actually bought a miata a few months ago because I learned so much from zach and working on his miata
yea me too
Totally agree. MoneyPit Miata was cool because was just a guy in his garage trying to improve his cheap little sports-car and that's what they should focus on. 👍
I hope the driveway era money pit comes back
Donut needs to ship the Miata over to y’all
It’s crazy how people haven’t learned from Smosh that when you sell your channel for the money, the channel takes a dump.
It's because they paydays are too good. Creators could be investing everything back into the channel so they don't really make much money, then someone offers them several million dollars in cash to sell the channel. Hard to say no to that.
I think it’s the companies that buy these channels that need the lesson. When they change things and become inauthentic trying capitalize on their investment, we easily recognize it and lose interest.
@@brianshineboxmfg4404 truth. Companies can buy them all they want, but they shouldn't change everything about how it's run and how the creative team works.
@@brianshineboxmfg4404 We are on like the 3rd wave of this. A lot of this content just can't support the profits the buying entities expect while still paying the talent. Second Wind is doing amazing. Dropout is a powerhouse. It's amazing how well a lot of these businesses do when the business model strips back how many people are taking a cut of the pie.
I've watched Smosh for years and the BIGGEST example I've seen yet, even over Smosh, is a channel called YeaMad based out of Australia.
YeaMad took a Smosh approach to it all, but they only started doing this like a year or two ago. They hired some cute girls with attitude and who were pretty funny, some cool dudes and became really successful in a matter of months. Like thousands of subs within months. Within that first year, they fired all the original cast and EVERYONE noticed due to the fact that the new cast was nothing like the old one and people already had crushed for the people that were already there.
The channel lost thousands of subs because of it. Lost a lot of popularity. At least Smosh doesn't get rid of the whole cast at once though.
I like seeing talent not being wasted. Thank y'all for continuing on doing what y'all love.
I am so glad this video automatically showed up in my recommend feed, because I'd hate to miss this news.
Literally, the sole reason why I even enjoyed watching Donut content is because of these two guys. Instantly subbed to this channel, no questions asked.
I'm so happy for them and wishing them the best. Can't wait to see the content they post in the coming months! 🎉
You writing the script for James makes so much sense now
Donut went from 'must watch' to 'watch if I can't find something better', to 'when are they gonna start making car videos again' to 'gonna pass on this video but I guess I'll stay subscribed in case they make car videos again'
RIP Donut, Welcome to Bigtime. 😊
Yeah dude... Happened to me too... 😢😢...
Same
i subbed to them when they still had 300k or so subscribers and i watched every video up until a couple 1 or 2 years ago when it just stopped being interesting but i still haven't brought myself to unsubscribing
Same. Channel just isn’t the same anymore which is sadge.
@@mecadragoon the rally e36 was the fall off
I started following around Money Pit. I like the whole cast, but Jobe's knowledge of the engines and builds is what kept me coming back.
95% of what I know about cars, I learned it from you two. I'm really excited about what we'll see here. Glad you started. Best of luck!!
I mean zero disrespect to Donut when I say this. You two were the reason I watched that channel.
I so desperately wanted more of the Miata money pit type content and WANTED you guys to work on that S14.
I’m excited for the future for you guys. I think it will be bright. I know I’m not alone in my sentiments.
The Moneypit Miata has helped me so much with motivation to fix my own Miata. I bought it for cheap and it needed work, but more work than I realized. It's been a year and it's still not running right but it's been sitting in my driveway for a while now. Seeing this comment reminded me that I need to get on it.
the downfall of hoonigan and now the downfall of donut… be still my heart
i forgot hoonigan exist...
Have you seen camissas drag races tho?
THATS WHAT IM SAYING... my childhood is fading. Grew up watching these 2 channels become what they have. Change is a real thing
@@jakecornelius8434 you guys remember Network A from like 2013?
dont forget car throttle
I love the work you guys do. Can't wait to see that the future hold for BigTime.
I remember back in 2019, when they were starting out it was a great channel and being able to watch their videos as in Automotive as been a great experience and I greatly appreciate these two as well. As it gave me the information and will to go out and get a project car (300zx) while making it better than before. Keep up the great work, can't wait to see what's next!
Massive growth kills every youtube channel. You see it over and over again
Throttle House is a happy exception to that
Hagerty gets a pass too 😅
It depends how well it was managed in the first place and the terms of the sale
When you complain about convincing someone else to do the videos you want to do, think about the video as well. Why are you "putting $30000 of parts in a $200 car". Is this actually a good video idea?
But in general, once you're beholden to stockholders, you've lost your right to do things "for fun"
Selling to investors is what kills channels. Capitalism ruins everything because money just wants more money, and suddenly you're boeing.
LTT has been pretty on brand for over a decade now
As a finance guy who works in the corporate world, there's nothing that can kill a company like running it purely by the numbers. It's crazy how rampant it is for managers to think every decision needs to be made to directly improve a financial metric. It totally ignores the customer's (viewers) needs and kills the soul of the company. If you're giving the people what they want the finances will be fine, unless you're just intentionally burning cash on bullshit.
The execs who lead by spreadsheet pay the price eventually. They’re either getting outperformed by AI or the ones who take care of their employees and customers.
Happening more and more lately and I’m all for it.
The private equity efficiency over everything mindset is a parasite that is ruining America piece by piece.
There are CZcamsrs like Mr beast or WD that spend obscene amounts of cash on stupid bullshit, but it’s stupid bullshit that the viewers like to see. At the end of it all, just like you said, those two aren’t exactly strapped for cash!
MBAs have killed corporate/business culture. Look at Boeing as the biggest example.
Bobby, I agree with you and had a comment on your comment. Its always got to be a balance. Entertainment is very different than tech and microbusiness producers are very different than enterprise mindsets. The bigger the company, the more eyes are on 'risk management'. The business leadership vision (for customer value, product quality, reach, whatever the metric) MUST be stronger than the pursuit of profit as the top value. Just my $0.02
You guys have the opportunity to catch lightning in a bottle here. I loved the old donut and even my one year old son would watch the videos intently with me. You guys capture that old charm and it’s to the moon! Good luck fellas! We’re rooting for you!
I cant believe it! You 2 are my favorite Donut crew members and now yall are going to have a whole channel together? This is a huge W!
The fact that they already have 1mil views and 400k subscribers shows how much they really are loved
So true
Donut fucked up bad. You can’t let your stars go
I was gonna say the same thing
really shows WHO Donut was.......
To bad that Donut and channels on CZcams are for “Car Guys” not actually enthusiasts
I don't think I've ever unsubbed from one channel and subscribed to another so quickly in my life. You two were the only ones keeping Donut alive.
Is James still there? I haven’t seen Donut in my algo recently
The reaction mechanics are the MVPs now, not the Donut cast
@Zoabdy Sandros the only one we care about. He would make $$$ doing his own channel.
The Money Pit Miata buildalong in your garage was my favourite series on Donut. Nothing after was as good. I'm really looking forward to what you have coming.
Proud of y’all! Can’t wait to see the stuff you guys put out!
Think we all appreciate the transparency in this video! Salary talk, money talk, personal stuff etc
If you can in life always work for yourself. You have control, you take all the risk but receive the benefits of all your hard work. I could never work for someone else ever again, especially in the corporate world.
@@Peanutdenverbig corpo gives you security and no more than 35 work hours a week.
That is tempting as an engineer.
But you are wasting your potential, which is sad.
Over here in Germany it’s also much harder to start something and make good money.
@@rolux4853"no more than 35 hours a week" 😂
Yeah, you obviously do live outside of the US. I guarentee these guys we were working 50+ hours a week, especially if they were filming. Minimum for full time in the US, I believe, is currently 37 hours a week, but the standard for full time is 40 hours minimum.
Wow here in Aus I’m on a salary but it’s minimum 50 hours here.
Are they busting out RAINBOW flags, LOVERS?
740K subs with just this one video so far... you guys will be just fine. We felt the changes you talk about and we agree. We're here for whatever you want to show us.
Exactly.
I said it months ago. Commented a few times knowing it would fall on deaf ears.
just 2 hours later 770k
literally watched it roll over to 770k lol
@@oddmanout1807 lmfao cringe, bet you commented this everywhere
You guys were by far my favorite part of the donut channel. Can’t say enough how much I’m looking forward to better car guy content. Very excited to see what you guys do!
The 2 guys from donut that actually brought true "car guy" stuff to the table, awesome
A shout out to Bart just made me shed a tear 🥹 Bart was and forever will be the best thing Donut ever had.
I believe many of us share this sentiment!
Who's bart?
Literally never saw bart
@@problemdude390bart was science garage when donut was first starting off it was the best
@@bonecrusher1777whos bart?!? 🥺
I thought you guys were all part owners and friends making fun vids together. Working for corporations takes the fun out of everything because it's 100% about profits.
I hope you have FUN with this channel. I'm here for it!
Thanks for everything you've done in Donut and I wish the best for you guys in you new channel. I've always learned so much from you in your Donut era. I hope you keep up the good work boys.
It's crazy to think that I'm watching this video while rebuildingcc the rear brakes on an old Audi- my first project car that I got because of the inspiration I got from you.
These 2 dudes carried donut HARD. This channel is gonna be nuts
the two people that kept me watching donut cutting out all the other stuff to just do their own thing? subbed and bell
Fr
For real
Most accurate comment yet
100%, them talking about getting to do less of the stuff they like echoed my own feelings about how much I enjoyed the old donut videos
Facts!!
I'm glad for you guys. The corporate youtube buys are getting crazy and end up producing lesser content to get that return of investment, and it sucks. I've stopped watching several channels that have been bought because a lot of them go from cool informational videos of builds and such to just doing lower budget reacts, dumb wacky thing, or cheap comedy reviews. This isn't just a car thing but a whole site wide issue.
Im glad you guys are returning to form a little and getting to enjoy what you're producing again.
Dudes, thanks for being real and honest with your fans. I was getting tired of "Professional Mechanics react to Tiktok" b/s., esp when Money Pit is what first pulled me in. I'm a gearhead in my 50's, and am always looking for content that is genuine, not over-produced and not created only for max views. I wish you nothing but luck. I subscribed immediately and can't wait to see what you do here. You are *clearly* good people who deserve success!
"don't worry, you'll still be seeing us!" then i click over to this channel and it's "why we're leaving donut"!
THATS WHAT I WAS THINKING
but youll still be seeing them (for a short while)
I thought the same, I guess that just means it was filmed awhile back.
Seriously 😂
Same.
Classic case of the Suits showing up and thinking that they’re the reason for success and not the creatives. Congratulations to you guys for fighting for your creative freedom. Can’t wait to see where this channel goes.
I think that's too simple. There are many ways to gauge success. If we are looking from a financial standpoint, I wouldn't be surprised if their ways are very successful, even in the long run.
The issue with chasing viewership though, is that it's less fun for the people making it, at least some. Remember that something can be commercially good, people enjoy making, and people enjoy watching.
These 2 guys didn't enjoy making it as much, so they moved on.
@@benjaminvdvyt Their viewership was changing only because of the direction the suits were driving while ignoring creatives.
czcams.com/video/NlBjNmXvqIM/video.html&ab_channel=SteveJobs I always think of this when suits run it into the ground
Leave LA now that you're not tied to Doughnut. Go to a better car location in the mid west or east. Totally agree Doughnut isn't what it used to be and we need a fresh take for fun car content.
Noticed a while ago Donut was making changes and some of my favorite stuff was going away. Glad to see you guys branching out and doing what you love and giving us the content we all want. So excited to see what this channel brings!
The Donut Miata build is what grew my interest in cars from an observer to an active member.
It was the same for me. I knew nothing about cars, let alone modifying cars until Zachs series.
Ikr? It made cars feel so much more accessible and doable than they had before, i went from just changing my own oil to working as a mechanic because of that series