Will AutoAlex Mazda RX-8 SURVIVE 9000+ RPM?! // Nürburgring
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00:00 Intro/Specs
02:40 Lap
12:15 Impressions - Auta a dopravní prostředky
NGL, I’m impressed the RX-8 made it to Germany! 😂
And it made it all the way back to England without fault. Absolutely fantastic car. It might make it to shedfest 2025...
@@ArcticRunnerNBwich mods?
@@trspablo6111 mods? I am thinking of modifying it properly. But that takes even more money 😅
@@ArcticRunnerNB is stock?
@trspablo6111 apart from a D-cat exhaust, she was completely stock
For a standard car, this is actually quite impressive that it doesn't look slow, handles quite well and just sounded the business. A+
well it's still an RX-8, it was very well reviewed by critics iirc
Rx8 has won multiple best handling car awards so its not surprising
Sounds absolutely mental. Could listen to this all day.
It’s an amazing car overshadowed by the unreliable new engine design and cooling issues, otherwise it’s the best Rotary Experimental chassis and a bit more practical too
@@shaunsteele2943 the engine is far from unreliable, as long as it is driven like this all the time. The cooling issues are easy to fix with a simple stiffening of the undertray and beefing up the sealing around the radiator.
Misha is like the best friend you never had.
Heyy, he's all of our best friend. Right Misha? 😊Deal? 😆😆
I wish!
Still, Russian roots growing up in NL - that means you're going to take a beating from that friend whether you want to or not :D
that sounds like unhealthy parasocial
@@velocityfpv5231Sure thing doctor.
The 190hp RX8 rev limit is 7500rpm. The 230hp RX8 rev limit is 9000rpm. Car shown is 230 as distinguished by headlamp washers.Thank you Misha for many enjoyable laps of the ring.
Never heard that before
I have the 230 horse motor and no washers. I think they are different packages.
Most importantly however: all 230 HP have got the bigger Front Brake
@@j7... The main reason is : 190hp 13b 4 port engine and 230hp is 6 ports engine , thats the main difference , here in USA/CAN the automatics were 4 ports and M6's were 6 ports
@@simondubois3165 close - from MY 2006 onwards, all autos got the 6 port and a 6AT, whereas earlier autos were 4 port and (I believe) 4AT. The Euro/JP market 4 port manual cars also had a 5 speed transmission that came from the FD.
No phones, No nothing - just 2 guys enjoying a lap in a fantastic car! Smiles and laughs - i love it!
Great video, and a Great owner 👌
Even if he had his phone out, it's his car, his time, his money, why all cry babies are yapping all the time when someone pulls his phone and immortalise a moment....
Misha is already doing it for you way better than you can. Why would you take a video of the whole lap while there is a video like this instead of enjoying it?
@@vahitguetta23even Misha did it in his recent ferrari challenge passenger laps, it's also a different perspective when the camera isn't directly mounted to the chassis
@@Kacper_Kolodziejczyk He didn’t take the whole lap. That’s not what I said. I was talking about those who take the whole lap.
@@andrewichim4735 its so stupid like the people at a concert taking photos or at a football game. Enjoy the moment
Previous rx8 owner here! Would like to give you some tips to the owner of the rx8. First off, great vid and the engine seems super healthy! If you plan on doing some power mods look no further I got you!
Best power mods I did for the car were:
exedy stg 2 Clutch (do not go for stage 1, it is not compatible and bad reviews) and lightweight flywheel (BHR)
BHR ignition kit (stops car from flooding)
Poly engine mounts
Catless midpipe
Tune that increased rev limiter to 9600 ( I had racing beat v2)
stock airbox mod
For the track:
SS brake lines (stainless steel)
better pads, you do not need a big brake kit for the rx8
lightweight wheels - 245 wide tires or higher square stance
premix the engine with 2 stroke oil at all times and make sure engine oil is almost full, you will guaranteed burn half a quart on the ring
you could get go poly bushings everywhere
shocks and springs ( do not make the car too stiff, it doesn't need it - the chassis is very very rigid as is)
If you absolutely wanna squeeze more power, then get headers, catback and a streetport but that is very $$$ and what I mentioned will get you 25-30whp easily
these engines are a nightmare to get passed 210whp without some good internal work
Now for the transmission....
make sure the subframe is aligned, these cars are very sensitive to that and overtime the transmission gets misaligned
Ive blown 3 of these transmissions, 2nd gear is very weak and it does not like the high rpm change from 3rd to 4th because of how long the gearing is between the 3-4 shift
and finally, if you do not have the heatshield between the cat and the transmission, the plastic shifter starts to melt and you will often miss gears or even gear lockout can occur.
My 2 cents, happy ownership! By far the best braking and handling car on the street I've ever had, no other car has replicated the balance this car has. Even the way it takes bumps mid turns is incredible and very few vehicles can replicate that.
Hello, thank you for the comment. I'll look into getting some of the mods for the RX-8 as I know it deserves to be kept on the road. I'll make sure to look after it for you 👍🏻
Forgot to mention that I am the owner of the RX-8 in this Video 😅
@@ArcticRunnerNB How difficult is it to find a mechanic that works on rotary engines?
Wish you were here in NZ, good friend builds 13b B/P port motors to delete the Renesis. If you have the $$ maybe an engine swap?
People like you are the gold of a car community. Thank you.
I remember my first ride in an RX-8, year 2005. Awesome new car, a rotary, suicide doors, and rpms over 9000!!!!!!
I got to drive one in 06 when working at a dealer, if there is a car more fun than a Honda to rev to redline, these are it... It's like a 2 stroke dirt bike, comes alive in the last part of the rev range!
Sadly those are fake rpm numbers (obd shows the actual ones)
it's over 9000 #vegeta
@@Mecks_Music no its not, unless the ECU has been remapped, where stock rpm limit is 9000 rpm. The gauge shows 9500 rpm when the engine is rotating 9000 rpm.. very stupid from mazda...
@@EngineeringSiblings the cars almost 20 years old bro chill. rx8's were solid cruisers, if you knew how to work on them or know someone who can your golden, save the Doritos! Bridgeport and a turbo would make this thing rip hard.
So underrated as a chassis... everyone hates on em but put them on a track and they'll leave you in the dust.
Still have my 2005 231 RX8 . 20 years of ownership next year
You are incredible for having it for so long. You have my full respect 🙏
Just think how much more financially better off you’d have been if you bought a car that is actually quick and doesn’t use half the fuel and oil that an rx8 does 😂
@@CrazyPanda688 thanks for the comment, although certainly not the quickest out the box and yes very thirsty at times (mine only has 17k miles). This was the first car I purchased after selling my first business. Amongst my other vehicles (720s, 992 GT3 , DB11, R35 GTR) I still love getting in the RX8 as it has so much character with the 13B rotary this is why it will always stay in my fleet
@@CrazyPanda688If one can afford it, then who are we to say it's a bad financial decision? Live your life the way you want because death is the same for everybody
@@CrazyPanda688 doesn't matter if it stays in the garage most of its life
Yes! I'm glad to see Misha using all the rpm of the Renesis engine!
RX-8 isn't very fast but it wasn't slow when Misha driving it either!
Anyone who has owned a rotary and properly wrung it out loved this. Fond memories of my rx7. Never forget the balance of the chassis and how smooth it was.
Thanks guys the RX8 always punches well above it's weight , showed the BRZ a clean set of heals , at 20 years it's elder . Mazda engineering at it's best !!
The video says it all. I got a new loaded 2004 RX-8 6-speed in 2005. Stock but added a few things for looks. Also wheels, tires and MazdaSpeed exhaust. Daily drove it for 10 years of 9000 rpm, great sound and back road fun. It was super nimble and planted on the highway too. Traded it in for a 2015 Camaro RS 2LT 6-speed which is great, but not many cars in the world are more fun to drive than some Mazda's.
I just subbed, just to see and hear this rx8, glad i did
Thank you and welcome!
I've just subbed too. 🙂Great video, Misha!
I need to see Misha drive a proper rx8. not a stock one. One of the most underrated chassis ever
That sounded awesome at 9k plus rpm. I never realised just how good they sounded.
It's over 9000? 😄
Super nice smooth flowing lap. Very enjoyable to watch.
Said "it's 9000, right?" and immediately revved out to 9500 on the first shift.
Just Misha things
@@dielaughing73 lmao 😆
😂
:D :D
I've been considering an RX8 as a fun little track toy for a while, since most tracks in my area are too small for much more than 250-300hp anyways. I'd have to drive 6-8 hours to get to Calabogie or Mosport for some more serious stuff. The RX8 doesn't have brute force, it's a scalpel of a chassis and all about carrying momentum, cornering speed and keeping the engine in it's happy rev range. Fantastic driving as always Misha 👌
I track mine and have no issues, it absolutely sings its way around a track. It’s also fun catching cars it has no business catching, granted suspension and 200tw tires help. But to most it looks unsuspecting af. And somehow it smokes less than the s2ks while smoking s2ks if u know what I mean lmao
Best lap of this year so far.
Love everything the car the owners enthusiast attitude
And obviously Misha’s drive as usual amazing.
Thank you!
And that lap after the new owner spun it in Brunnchen lol
its impossible to train to pilot without having to much money...
I watched your video early on and the car looked familiar but when it spun there was only one person in the car, so I was sort of relieved that it wasn't Misha when I read your comment. 🙂
My mistake on Brunnchen 😅
Why u snitchin Like that 😂
@@loredanatafuro7826it's a matter of public record
The 192 Version of the RX8 only goes to 7k by factory, Nice to see you aren't afraid of the beep anymore.
coolest sound ive heard in a long time these rx8s are amazing track cars but you must tub the rims to maximise performance especially for a 1.3ltr engine, all that pure engine is now disappearing.
JMO the big brother we wish we had
"9000, huh? Yep, go for it" Takes it to 9500 immediately. Awesome! These engines can easily take 10k with a little work and balancing, although I'm not sure I would take it there with a lot of unknowns.
I really love the RX8. With the right mods this thing can turn into a tracktool for sure
This is what cars are for- not for garaging and investing with no miles. They should be run to the edges of the engineering and enjoyed. He'll remember this lap forever! What a canny buy.
Fond memories. Had 2 rx8 in the past. Power isn’t great but absolutely a fun car to drive.
That engine was really at its happiest in this video.. never below 7k most of the time 😄 what an experience to watch and listen!
That is one heroic little car: not only did it survive Alex’s tender mercies (an achievement for any car!) but also Knockhill and now the Nurburgring! All while being a mildly abused old “unreliable” car…
It has surprised me every step of the way on this trip
5:30 ahh love the noise 🔥🔥
*_OVER 9000!!!_*
Back in 1970 in Ontario, Canada, I had the 2nd Mazda R100. There was no rev. limiter. It was just screaming at 11,000/12,000 RPM. Three engines later: well that was it.
It was great to see the owner’s excitement.
Congratulations on 8minutes 33 seconds!
What a helluva way to spend a birthday ! Rx8 love !
Best birthday experience I could have asked for 😂
Love this kind of laps - full on enjoyment. Its always great to see an owner who trully enjoys the lap and is not shy to show their emotions. As for RX-8 amazing car - would like to own one some time in the future. Cheers!
Misha is the coolest guy on youtube I've never heard him ridicule anyone or their ride
Glad to see the Rx8 back again. And this time driven to its full potential. I own 2 of them and I have no Regrets. They are amazing cars for the Price they handle well and its a 4 door. So what Else can you ask for in a cheap sports car.
Fijn dat deze RX-8 in handen van een liefhebber terecht is gekomen, mooie ronde Nordschleife.
This car sounds absolutely amazing, especially the downshift rev match🔥
I always loved the rx8. Whenever someone's says it's shite, yeah it lacks the turbo but n/a isn't also bad... Great lap Misha!
that owner was so much fun!
SO long as you take care of the oiling issues, rotaries are actually crazy stout little engines!
Wonderful lap!
Drove FBO RX8 with weight reduction on GT7 and got sub 8min 😮😮
One of best handling car 😅
Had a red one, bring back memories, thanks for the awesome ride Misha
The Rx8 chassis is really good.
Looked like a lot of fun wringing it's neck @ 9K RPMs and seemed to handle equally to the power... especially once you figured out stretching those revs between corners.. it really smoothed out. Nice morning drive!
That car sounds amazing! Nice lap!
4th gear is super common to go out, you'll tend to lose reverse as well.
Sounds great and expertly driven as always👌
I love the video! Keep it up!
I just realized these vids are great for learning what you should be doing with your hands at all times when driving a manual.
Great vid can't wait until June.
The price of all Mazda Rx-8 just went up after this video! 😅 amazing drivning Misha! 👏👏👏👏
Automatic RX-8s had a redline around 7500 if I remember. That one sounds pretty solid still. Since it's an S1, get an S2 starter if it doesn't already for faster starts. THere's another post in comments for other upgrades but the ignition system is key to keep up on.
Thank You, RX-8 is my dreamcar, that video made my day!
incredible sound
I had a chance to drive one of those years ago and they are definitely fun. No torque but revving them to the moon is a lot of fun!
Loved this video! The owner of the car was a hoot! 😂
That sound, oh my god, you just can't get enough. It just sounds phenomenal.
cool lap! great driver and passenger!
So glad Misha got a run with another RX8, but my man, Misha... you HAVE to find someone (unfortunately I would love to lend you mine, but I'm in the USA) that has a proper suspension and tire setup. This thing corners like a beast on coilovers, sway bars, and wider tires. A few things to point out, there are some differences between the Series 1 and Series 2 RX8's. Amongst them is, the Series 1 transmission was not as good as the series 2, 4th gear grinding was very common. Series 2 transmission can bolt up to a Series 1, and gives you better gearing, keeping the Series 1 Diff and whatnot at least in my experience of doing the swap. I'm curious how how the coolant got during the lap. I'm sure oil temps were fine because it comes with 2 very good oil coolers from factory, it's coolant you need to be wary of... if it reaches 100C, you risk coolant seal failures.
100degC is not even hot. Wtf!
@@richardggeorge coolant seals are not the same like headgaskets on piston engines, they are much more fragile, made of rubber like material. Too many extremely high temp sessions CAN cook them, so safest thing to do is try to keep coolant temps below 100C as much as possible. The "Too hot!" radiator fan setting kicks in at 102C
Hey! Owner of an S1 RX-8 here! I was asking myself the same thing, what about coolant temps on the ring? Bcs I have mine built for going up mountain passes and still it struggles a bit even with a custom re-map, Mishimoto fans and a bigger radiator than spec.
I think the same, you need to try one with coilovers, it's a completely different car! People that went for a ride in mine told me that they had a similar experience driving a kart.
Also if the owner reads this: Mods I would put in: Install a Sohn kit, buy an oil sandwich adapter and get yourself some gauges of coolant temp, oil pressure and oil temp. With that, respecting warming ups and cooling downs and proper oil and sparkplugs changes you have a car as reliable as any other. Enjoy it!
@@luancospartan9876 dont forget a catch can on the list of mods 😭
101c is programmed into the fan curves to only then turn the fans on high (2004 model). The fans don't even turn on at all until it hits 97c. I've hit around 110c without any damage when I had a fan not working correctly and still have no damage. Of course I wouldn't recommend staying at 110c, its definitely too hot but its not gonna break as soon as you hit 100c lol.
Overtaking the GT3 in the RX8 is so hot 🥵 Misha is the man!
LOVE seeing normal every day cars driven on the ring!
Brilliant cars these. Super fun even as standard!
As someone who used to own a 2004 RX-8 GT and loved it (I miss it), this made me happy. Slow as balls but "felt" so good.
i adore rotaries and this was such a joy to watch, to car sounded awesome, misha drover it superb and it really does seem to handle quite well. Boy those 9000RPM's are awesome :D
TOP 5 BEST SOUNDING ENGINES of ALL time! change my mind!
Thank you Misha for this lap it makes me super proud. My dream is that I can drive my RX-8 on the Nord.
Perfect chassis for a little alloy block, dry sump LS
I love how the subtitles just reads 'music' when the lap begins
My 2006 rx8 231 , i miss you. 😢
The way the car keeps its trajectory surprised me A LOT, even without very good suspension and tires… That’s impressive. Seems to have a very good chassis !
love the sound!
another perfect video 👍
Nice! I miss my 8. Yeah for sure you want to keep the rev over 6500rpm at all times at a track. The more rev, more power!
This went better than your own lap, James, saw you on the other CZcams channels doing a pretty spin! 😂 Great that you guys got a lap in! Greets from the blue BMW!😊 😊😊😊
Fantastic, I'm so happy to hear from you Bois again. It wasn't my proudest moment in the other video 😂
LOL i had an RX8 too and the 4th gear was also "crunchy" :D
the 4th being crunchy is probably the synchros I've got that in 5th and 6th on my R3
I had 2 of this mazdas and it was my dream and my nightmare when I owned 😂😂 nice to see in your hands Misha.
I just watched the Hagerty video on GMA T.50 and was wondering, why are you shifting so early. Then I realised my slight bias :D
👏👏👏 Properly sent, well done!
I don't know who has a rotary with a 7k shift light 🤣
I must say, and as far I got "ear", this young lad has great radio voice
20yo car and still looks beautiful (and more modern than most cars that age). Still remember when I first saw that car in Underground 2... good memories!
Wow so nice sounding car, just dont check gas consumption, and nice camera setup, keep it up. InitialD feelings here.
I would make it an MFGhost car 😂
Love vids like this, that dont show rich boys and thier toys.
For being mostly a stock car this looked like a lot of fun. I hope the owner keeps taking good care of it.
I had a new RX8 when I was 21. Had a lot of problems with it and lost a lot of money on it but it was a bloody great car.
Just need a video of a track prepped rx8 now! Wish I could ship mine 🤣
Listening to that RX8 scream at 9,500 rpm reminded me of my NFSMW 2005 days. Ah. Those memories. ❤
Nice break system warning light at 5:29 😅
Always love rotary content!
Lovely car, I adore the 9k+ RPM in a rotary.
Misha, you make me a proud RX-8 owner! "Go Brap-Brap" (as you wrote on my engine cover at ShedFest). 🙂
As a former RX-7 owner, I too love the noise!!!!
Thanks for doing the RX8 proper!! I have two track speck RX8s but sorry I live in Washington DC lol. Or I’d give you one for the day.
Amazing fun. Only hear good things on the driving aspects of the RX8.
Gotta love RX-8s. Mythic car 👌🏼👌🏼
A lovely sounding, smooth revving Wankel, what a delight
I remember being at a car show where they first introduced the RX-8. It was such a spaceship back then and I guess it still kinda is!
What a fun car this remains! I also have an rx8 for trackdays and an mps as a daily car what do I love this brand say! 🥰
12:15 - 3:07 : 9min and 8 seconds BTG.... wow, what a pilot