Tom Brady should be even lower than 12th in QB ranking after Rams loss - Shannon | NFL | UNDISPUTED
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- Tom Brady was ranked as the league’s 12th-best QB entering Week 12, after coming off a very non-Brady-like game against the Rams on Monday night. Skip Bayless and Shannon Sharpe discuss the rating, and whether they agree Brady is ranked correctly after his performance this season.
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Tom Brady should be even lower than 12th in QB ranking after Rams loss - Shannon | NFL | UNDISPUTED
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Where would you rank Tom Brady among current quarterbacks?
Tom Brady is 10th
15th
2 and #1 is Nathan Peterman
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Skip: “if you don’t count all the games Tom Brady’s been bad in, he’s actually been good.”
Skip will make a great Republican presidential candidate someday with that logic 😂
Lol skip lives in a fantasy world with Tim Tebow Tom Brady and the Cowboys . Whether it's good or bad Shannon is gonna keep it 💯
@@RevanLaughs I agree Lmao
This is the perfect summation
@@RevanLaughs biden: “I’ll lead an effective strategy to mobilize truinteunpressure”
"you can have all the bullets in the chamber if somebody can't pull the trigger what good are the bullets"
- Shannon has best one liners
Shannon calling Kawhi's sneakers "Orthopedic shoes" is my all time favorite 😂😂
He honestly does
My favorite is “ if Bill Belichick told you the grass will turn to cheese, start hustling crackers”
@@marcogonzalez9296 😂Yooooo Son All Shannon Need Is One Mic On Some Nas Isht....
@@simplyluis6548 Yooo Stop Playin'😂Shannon Sharp(E) With It....
Skip has just been murdered on live tv
Not the first time 💀💀
Bodybagged
He stays getting bodied by Shannon
He’s been on one heckuva losing streak to Unk Shay Shay. Skips been getting killed for a while.
I love how Skip likes to talk about Shannon hating on Brady and yet Skip made a career on hating LeBron
I was laughing at the fact that Shannon had him pinned with straight facts and Skip's response was LeBron!! Dude doesn't even play football. Ridiculous!!
The thing that's insane is that LeBron has proven himself recently and Brady is the one thats underachieving recently. How can Skip take the abuse everyday debating the losing side of 2 different arguably GOATS of their respective sports?
@@Pasicho well Brady is the greatest Qb of all time while lebron isn’t even close to being the goat.
I was thinking the same thing!! 😂🤣
@Nada Brady is the GOAT of QBs just like Lebron is the GOAT at SF
skip "air distance traveled" Bayless
@Versatile Wolf or its facts.
@Jermaine Jackson 😂😂
Air distance traveled refers to the distance between Skip's ears
That’s just cherry-picking stats to make Tom Brady look good 🤦🏾♂️
@Jermaine Jackson I think completed air yards matter. It means you’re completing longer passes. But just air yards that aren’t completed don’t really mean anything.
Only thing Skip can use to defend Tom Brady is the air distance in long balls that he throws
Which doesn’t matter who tf cares about air distance when your not playing well
Which it's supposed to be useless if the ball does not connect
What is so great about air distance if the pass isn't completed
@@michaeljenkins8679 Its help himself believe that TB12 is still........"The 🐐" even when he's this B.A.D.!!
He’s never even brought that stat up before this year 🤦🏻♂️
Brady plays well: He's 43 playing a high level.
Brady plays bad: He's 43.
Whatever work for your argument 😂🤷🏽♂️
Double edge sword
Nailed it 🤣🤣🤣🤣
He makes you forget he 43 at times. Then he reminds you that he 43.
Are you Brady haters seriously complaining about double standards. You know you guys make double standards more than anyone I've ever seen.
Im MJ all day but its funny how skip can say all Shannon does is hate on Brady, so then wtf does skip do about lebron
Skip : I've never experienced anything like your brady hate!
Lebron James : 🤔
this might be the most hypocritical argument skip has ever done. When Brady loses its his defense, when anyone who's better than Brady loses its the QB's fault. Anytime a team that Brady beat and another QB lost to its their fault. Any time Brady lost to a team another QB beat its the defense's fault. O.o
Nah its tied with all the other ones lol
Brady is the goat nobdody is better than him maybe rn but not career wise
@@DanTheMan-vn5sf stop trying to find the silver lining in this we're talking about this year not all time fanboy
@@DanTheMan-vn5sf this year he’s been average at best...🤡
Skip is so delusional it disgusts me sometimes.
No one will tell him...sad he really is sad.
dont let it disgust you, its just entertainment and its why you tune it lol.
@@MattySOP some people just have a visceral response to being so brazenly lied to lol I don’t blame him. It’s why some people can’t watch reality tv, the farce can be too much.
@@deezuschrist9794 That sucks
Who will win?
I can watch these two talk about anything, my favorite sports show of all time.
Lmao every time Brady lose skip be like it’s the Defense hood excuses is actually hilarious 😂 🤦🏽♂️
He doesn’t understand correlation vs causation. The defense is more likely to correlate to Tom Brady’s outcomes but that doesn’t mean the defense is the cause of Tom Brady’s outcomes.
All skip is trying to do is deflect blame. Tom Brady was the reason they lost the game not the defense.
Brady is up and down this year but it is with a new team new playbook and no preseason. Anyone who has to deal with that needs some leeway. Players r dropping passes too. Shannon props up mahomes and skip props up Brady. It is what it is
Or coaching
@@alezflores bruh its definitely not. Shannon is far more objective than Skip is, and it ain't even close.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm skip word
You know Skip was mad asf when Shannon brought out the blooper real. 😭😭😭
Skips definitely got a poster of TB12 on the ceiling above his bed, and probably has a Tom Brady mannequin next to him in bed 😂 😂 😂
That's cold. But most likely true.
Nah the poster is Brady but the mannequin is of Michael Jordan
@@MGrabowski70 nah the poster MJ. Skip respects MJ to much to sleep with him. But skip can’t stop himself with Brady. Brady mannequin in bed
dakimakura*
Meh. The same thing can be said about Shannon the clown. Mahomes and LeBron lover boy.
I cant stand skip. Oh now he doesn’t know why Brady gets all this hate but he’s the hate conductor of the Lebron James hate train 🤦🏾♂️
Brady will be just fine..6 rings and a hall of famer with the GOAT tag..id take it
@Collidingeorges that’s the weakest attempt to discredit lebron I’ve seen lmao
@@bobbywahl2358 extremely weak
@Collidingeorges bruh wtf. You sound stupid af lmao. Handle balling?? And I ain’t even say I like lebron but you trying to insult him was funny and stupid lol
Don't count Brady out
I've been in Tampa Bay Buccaneer fans my whole life even before I was Tom Brady even got here I've been here since the losing seasons and I can finally and honestly say I'm tired of Skip Bayless already defending my team he's not a Buccaneers fan he doesn't speak for us
I get the offense struggles but the numbers for the defense are deceiving,that defense the last 4 games have been terrible
Same I’ve been a fan since Mike Alstott but the Brady discussion is getting old just watching the games and seeing Brady throw ints in close games and then Skip coming on here trying to defend that disgraceful performance is frustrating
He doesn’t defend the Bucs- he defends Tom Brady.
@@SoFlyerThanBirds - You've already won as many games as last year with quite a few to go, and you're still bitching. It's time for you to self reflect.
As a basketball fan its insane to see Skip defend Brady while shitting on on LeBron. He's a meme character for real.
He’s honestly hilarious though lmao
Double standards, Shannon is a clown!!!
Tom Brady throws an interception
Skip: “it’s the defense”😂😂
Hahahhahahhahaha
Yea it was the defense, the defense that intercepted him.
@@rickyv7757 right! 😂
What if LeBron and Brady teamed up? How would Skip and Shannon react 👀
It would be the funniest thing ever 🤣😂🤣🤣😅
Skip is on TB12 payroll
Shannon doesnt hate on tom Brady.he explains wat happened during da game.and then "air distance traveled" gets brought up.cant argue wit hypotheticals.
@Calvin Calvin it’s called adjusting lol
Win they lose, they will blame the one they don’t like. When they win they will credit the one they like
R.I.P
Skip baylesss
1951-2020
Reason of death:
Getting annihilated by Shannon Sharpe
lol lol 😂 Fact Statement, dude just got killed AGAIN!!!’ How many lives does this guy have. Can’t be a cat 🐈 cuz they only have 9 of em.
L
Brady: uses the "Patriot system" and the bucs win
Brady: uses the "Bruce Arians system" and the bucs lose
I saw this in another video. I keep coming across your comment.
It sounds like Brady need to go back in play for the Patriots. You are making it seem like he is a system QB 🤔.
@Calvin Calvin terrible coaching
Only...brady is 7-4. How is he losing😅
Sounds like Brady is a system quarterback
@@arequ22 So is every other QB except for Aaron Rodgers. Manning and
Luck did worse in Arians’ system, at least Brady won NFC player of the month.
Bucs are way too pass heavy, obviously Brady isn’t the same, run the ball and let Brady throw 25 times a game and their a much better team.
This is a factor, however its *inevitable* his play would eventually fall off. Otherwise there would be many 40 something players in the league. Shannon is shouting about this guy saying "no excuse for this", no-there is an explanation-he is closing in on his mid 40s....
it's actually a shame to see that sort of offense go to waste. if you give weapons like that to a better QB with an arm they would average like 40 points a game.
Patrick Harrison Yeah I agree with you, his play was going to decline at some point just like Peyton.
anonymous Imagine Rodgers, Wilson, Murray, or Watson in that Bucs offense
@@patrickharrison871 man stop all these excuses, Drew would get the ball to those guys in a wheelchair
Straight hate he says, when unc just read the stats 😂
I feel like Skip is going to make some excuses😂
He rips russ for playing bad against the rams one week ago but not tom brady
he will blame defence
That's what Skip does.He makes excuses
Seeing people defend Brady by saying he has rings is so cringe! Rings doesn’t determine how you’re playing right now!
True, but doesn’t it seem that people also try to say he’s somehow not the goat simply cuz he isn’t playing great right now? I think it’s silly both ways. He is the goat no matter what he does here on out, like Jordan on the wizards, but also just cuz he’s the goat for his career doesn’t mean he is playing at his peak, or at goat level
I agree.Those 6 rings don't change the fact that he hasn't played well this season
@@michaeljenkins8679 hes played Ok..maybe not top 10 but he’s not bottom tier.
From a historical standpoint rings actually matter. Come talk to me when patrick has 6 rings. Oh but he never will players will retire his weapons will retire without kelce and hill patrick is trash unlike Brady when he has a lack of weapons
@@joehiggins7130 Brady's 6 rings don't change the fact that he has been inconsistent this season
I can’t with skip.. he’s just full of it 😭.
Skip :”you only pointed out Bradys lows, not his highs”
Also Skip: “mahomes has been inconsistent”
How does a below-average Qb have a chance to make the playoffs?
**Andy Dalton has entered the chat**
And mark Sanchez
Mitch Trubisky
And Wentz
And Alex Smith after tonight lol
and Daniel Jones
anytime shannon makes a valid point . skip goes “what are you talking about”😂😂
13:32 Shannon Sharpe: 🗣 If Ima baseball player and lead the MLB in pop ups... if they don’t leave the yard... 👉🏼WHAT HAVE I DONE?👈🏾 ✅
Skip: 🗣Mmmmmmm....... Doesn’t work
😟😦😢 SMH🤦🏾♂️ .. Skip is on another level of being a BS artist 👩🎨... Lol
I grew up in Pittsburgh, so I HATE Tom Brady, but if he gets in the playoffs...better watch out!
Me too, he’s the GOAT
Tom is all time Gr8 but honestly I can’t image them making it out of the nfc and if they do they are probably gonna get buzz-sawed in the super bowl
He mad The playoffs last season
Maybe until he has a prime time game
@Kenny Strawser and...what's your point??
I love these guys and this show.
As much as I dislike Brady, 12 feels right. Has had rlly bad games but also a couple good games.
Why would you dislike brady
Eh, drop him about 2 more spots
lol skip is one crazy dude! Shannon keeps pointing out how skip only uses parts of games to praise Brady but Skip just keeps babbling on! lol
4:54 Brady did not beat Drew Lock, he beat Jeff Driskel, Lock was out injured.
Shannon "let that sink in" Sharpe!!!
I love how when Tom Brady loses, Skip makes it about how bad his defense is... but when Aaron Rodgers loses when his defense gives up like 50 points then he criticizes Aaron Rodgers
That's Skip for you
Story of aaron’s nfl life!😒
Safe to say pro football focus just be saying anything they like
Skip's arguments are ridiculous, he's actually trying to make a case that Brady has played better than Mahomes this year.
I should not have this much anger for one person but skip really grinds my gears
You're just hurting yourself. Look at his whole career. He's nothing but a hot take expert.
Happy Thanksgiving everybody!
Happy thanksgiving!
Thanks....u2
Man talks about air distance when Brady doesn’t have any completed passes more than 20+ yards I love the contradictions 😂😂😂😂
Skip: Shannon has Brady hate every time he talks about him
Also Skip in the past : I have no objectivity when it comes to Tom Brady
Wish my girl had me like Skip has Brady
Underrated comment 💀
Love this show. These guys going at it!! 😂👍🏽👏🏾 love Brady tho
Ain't no way Skip sits n think of the chit he says mane, ain't no way 🤣
Like if Undisputed is better than First Take 💋
🌍
Neither
@Jermaine Jackson i watched the video so i can talk about it tf. And i comment on things i like and things i dont.
First Take has a better variety of topics, but Undisputed is better at going in depth for each topic they cover
You’re whack.
Brady could go 0 TD and 4 pics and skip will still make some excuse for it ... well he completed 1st down passes and lead the league in that
Good speaking and/or confidence.
I love the way you did that tho 🤣🤣 5:00- 6:30
This is just utter blasphemy from Skip here. "Inconsistent season from Mahomes" Pat is 27 - 2 this season and currently winning the MVP race. "Goatishness from Tom Brady this season" Constantly going back to the AFC title game from 2 YEARS AGO. Horrendous take and argument
So are we all ready to agree brady is a system quarterback?
He is
His system is 4-6 rn so...
@@mitchellajieroh considering what tgey have a d what they been dealing with this year thats an acconplishment
I've been saying it for years.
@@clintfowler3856 and?
Skip and PPF focus is crazy!!!!
Phillip rivers sneaky having a great season
Facts
"how can you make the playoffs with an average quarterback" jimmy garroppolo made the super bowl last year lmao
Trent Dilfer won a super bowl to take that to the ultimate level.
@@chucknorris2418 lmfao ye
be ready if mahomes destroys brady skip will blame defence and cry about opponet is so great
if mahomes loses he will gave all the credit to brady
Can we get Skip's name changed from Skip Bayless to "Skip Bias"?
Skip bringing up that AFC championship when they beat the Chiefs in O.T & the 3 straight 3&longs they converted on that td drive to win, but fails to mention the horrible int Brady threw to ice the game if Ford wasn't lined up offside(not jumped) on the opposite side of the field to where the throw went
skip: I've never seen hatred like this i dont know where its coming from
lebron: ................................
A lot of teams make the playoffs- nearly half the league makes the playoffs. Brady can be just above average and, teamed with a top 10 DEF and top 10 running game, make the playoffs. If they miss the playoffs, it will be because of Brady.
@Sean Legghette Ha.
@@riekthegreat1 Yeah, it of course likely wouldn't be all Brady's fault if they suffered a huge collapse and missed, but I'd say the games they've lost so far are owing mostly to poor performances from Brady in those games. On the other hand, many of their wins were thanks to excellent performances from Brady. Really, if they missed it would probably be down to coaching, because I think Brady and the Bucs would be fine if they ran a more Brady-style offense, but Arians and Leftwich refuse. Maybe Brady is on board with it too, but the coaches should recognize what style would be best suited for the personnel they have and build the playbook around that.
TB has been in the same system for the last 20 years, it's hard for him at his age to be super at the new system in his first year.
Skip’s thinking: Twelve is better than one and two because it’s 1 and 2 put together!
Shannon thinking: He’s lucky this table is so wide cuz I’m gonna slap some sense into him!
Lol he really think hating on Tom Brady is gonna makes him a better player
So funny watching Shannon hate Brady while skips hates lebron
Shannon isnt hating
Shannon brings up facts he doesn’t hate. Skip brings up random arguments that make no sense when he hates on bron
@@rari2xx Yes he is. Regardless of how bad Brady plays he is 43 and is already the greatest quarterback of all time. Yet Shannon will never admit that.
@@dweezykb24 he never said he was bad. If we’re talking about strictly this season everything he says is true
@@vincentcarrier3440 He has been hating on Brady for the last 2 years. He hates on Brady because Skip hates on Lebron. That’s their thing.
“You see what you did?” 😂😂
I live in KC and listen to almost all team interviews I don't remember Andy saying that was the greatest thing to happen to Pat. He has said learning behind Alex was, must of missed it I guess🤔
Skip some how got the password to change the pro football stats 😂 Brady ahead of Mahomes this season... Stoppppp it
Nah bruh he runs that damn website, only website ever coming with BS stats to make Tom look amazing, stats that don't even make sense, "air distance travel" that would be like me being a boxer and I threw more punches that hit nothing but air and got KO but I threw more, who gives a damn!!!? LOL he runs that website, ever noticed that coincidentally enough PFF always, ALWAYS has "stats" that backs only Skip guys and no one else? LOL
@@dieselx506 Acutally its not even stats, PFF is a bunch of guys watching tapes and decide whether the QB make a good or bad play. Its a SUBJECTIVE grading system that depend on those guys opinion of a play. And they are not neccessary "very respectable" people like Skip trying to spin.
A week ago Shannon had Brady at 4th in his MVP rankings lol now he tryna say he 14th.
🤣
🧐
This about the QB ranking, not the MVP race you idiot 😭😭
@@connorbradby765 you seriously think someone can be the 12th best QB (or even lower according to Shannon) but still be 4th in MVP race?? LOL no
It just shows Shannon’s a prisoner of the moment
@@jakeplat8855 : Opinions change, rankings change. If you aren’t dense, you would know that. Maybe Tom was top 5 in the race, before that rams game. Tom has not been consistent, and has looked terrible at times. You agree with Skips takes?😭😭 tells me everything I need to know about you sir
Skip Bayless is the defensive coordinator for Team Brady.
Lol I love these guys two brothers on an internal battle whose right
Happy Thanksgiving!
Brady should be 4-9 based on the circumstances and situation
Wtf what circumstance and situation?
@@ericrivera5811 He had no time to work with Evans to help the deep ball, he isn’t consistently using his system and instead chucking it which he sucks at, and there other factors that play into him doing bad against good pass rushes
What?? Did he play an extra 2 games in your " CIRCUMSTANCES" dumb. Lol
@@popcornblast5348 ANTONIO BROWN IS THE REASON. UNECESSARY DISTRACTION.... reminds me of my cowboys in 2008
@@robogreek3157 so it is brady's fault he wanted brown
Oh I can’t wait for tomorrow
Skip:ive never experienced ANYTHING ever like the brady HATE im hearing
Lebron:really skip??
According to Skip, Tom Brady is an MVP so this doesn’t matter
Gotta give respect to Shannon. I could not debate this clown everyday. I would slap him by the second day.😂
No one would watch this show if skip wasn't doing thus kinda sruff
6 rings
Does skip really not see the problem w his argument😂
Skip sound like there's a new award called the air distance title. Wtf is this world coming too!
Sorry TB fans, but your team is getting exposed after all that hype during the off-season. TB can't beat NO, SEA or LAR. I'm just being honest. HAPPY THANKSGIVING 🦃🦃🦃🦃🦃.
Blah. Blah. Im.a cowboy fan... But Brady will be fine
Tom Brady can play until he’s 45 years younger.
Mahomes has a 27-2 TD-INT ratio, 7 out of 9 games with triple digit passer rating, multiple TD's in 8 of 9 games, and no games throwing for fewer than 200 yards. If that's considered inconsistent I'd like to know what consistency is.
Brady will be in the Superbowl... Book it...
Nah they’ll be 11-5 but no SB
@@officialtyler8117 literally repeating what happened in 2018. 11-5 super bowl win
Shannon come on Brady is 100% better than Goff and rivers
He isn’t saying that he’s worst as a QB. He’s not having a better season
@Vinny Sabatino : Lmao ok kid
We talking this season only
He’s not
'Air distance throws'???? LOL
Goats don’t lose that’s what Shannon said he says LeBron is the goat how many championships did he lose six
Brady has been average this year. He is an average qb at this stage in his career. 0% chance of winning anything meaningful in the playoffs.
not sure about 0%..the wild card game will be very winnable
Rekt
@@clintfowler3856 yeah I was wrong. He played bellow average for most of the regular season, but when it mattered the most he dunked on everyone...
Classic Brady
Maybe if Mahome throws 600 yards and 5 tds. Skip might wake up.
HE resorted to incompletion air distance LOL Y’all got to know Skip doing this for the show LOL
One of the first!! Finally Lmaoo
Brady is washed plain and simple.
Shannon had Brady 4th in MVP voting less than 2 weeks ago, now he’s the 13/14th best QB, c’mon sharpe don’t make your bias this obvious.
And no I don’t think Brady is a top 5 QB, but definitely somewhere in the 8-10 range.
Damn Shannon had skip on the ropes at 11:03
Shannon a pure hater
Why cause he brought up straight facts?
@@vincentcarrier3440 Shannon has hated Brady since he got caught supporting the president a few years back
He’s not even a Top 10 TE of all time, OJ Howard is better than him.
I just enjoy watching the games dont care how many times the ball gets thrown or handed off or where he ranks among quarterbacks
brady lose 27-24
skip: the bucs defense is not good
rodgers lose 27-24
skip: where is rodgers, how can he gave up 27 points
Unk don’t let Skip raise your pressure. Wait Skip, it’s the defense, it’s BA, it’s AB. That Skip rides uncomfortably hard for Tom 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂
That sink been outside knocking for a long time! Is someone gonna let it in?🤔
The one stat brady is ranked highly is air time. Its a meaningless stat. But skip brings it up so much because every other category hes miles behind in.
Lmao Shannon and the Comment Section hate on Brady...
He still puts yall in yalls place every year