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  • Pro Football Focus updated their quarterback ranks through 9 weeks of the season with Aaron Rodgers and Russell Wilson taking the top 2 spots. Despite coming off his worst game of the season though, Tom Brady still held on to 3rd thanks to his big-time throws and turnover-worthy play percentage being in the top 3 of all QBs. Right below Brady at 4 is Patrick Mahomes, due to what PFF has called an inconsistent season for the reigning Super Bowl MVP. Hear what Skip Bayless and Shannon Sharpe have to say about Tom Brady being ranked higher than Patrick Mahomes.
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  • @UndisputedOnFS1
    @UndisputedOnFS1  Před 3 lety +201

    Is it fair to rank Tom Brady higher than Patrick Mahomes?

    • @nycsellout4775
      @nycsellout4775 Před 3 lety +26

      Skip and Shannon: UNDISPUTED Nathan peterman is better

    • @soloisgas5272
      @soloisgas5272 Před 3 lety +6

      Yes

    • @Slade_Chill
      @Slade_Chill Před 3 lety +60

      No cause pro football focus do everything they can to make Tom Brady look good

    • @nycsellout4775
      @nycsellout4775 Před 3 lety +8

      And trace mcsorley is better then both of them

    • @dylanmh31612
      @dylanmh31612 Před 3 lety +21

      Ridiculous 😂

  • @aim5055
    @aim5055 Před 3 lety +1861

    It’s absolutely insane to rank Brady above Mahomes this season.

    • @deerman.2554
      @deerman.2554 Před 3 lety +28

      Thank you🤦‍♂️

    • @vonntalks4796
      @vonntalks4796 Před 3 lety +7

      Facts

    • @aim5055
      @aim5055 Před 3 lety +60

      @18 Wheeler notice how I said this seasonvv

    • @deerman.2554
      @deerman.2554 Před 3 lety +4

      @18 Wheeler dis season

    • @RG_Niice
      @RG_Niice Před 3 lety +47

      @18 Wheeler How long have the both of them been in the league? Cmon now lmao Mahomes was 5 when Tom got drafted

  • @juane8489
    @juane8489 Před 3 lety +1105

    Shannon talking to Skip like a worried father schooling his son. 🤣🤣

    • @germannegron3868
      @germannegron3868 Před 3 lety +9

      🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @bonerpants7203
      @bonerpants7203 Před 3 lety +25

      He really is. Dude sounds genuinely concerned

    • @marcusmagice
      @marcusmagice Před 3 lety +2

      😆

    • @phillydan23
      @phillydan23 Před 3 lety +37

      PFF is a joke. Their rating is like saying, you are a better shooter than me when I hit more targets than you but when I miss, I'm farther off than you 🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @deshawnhughs5531
      @deshawnhughs5531 Před 3 lety

      🤣😂🤣😂🤣👍🏿

  • @ricecakejohnson
    @ricecakejohnson Před 3 lety +185

    Shannon's favorite line "Let this sink in for a minute"

    • @hbmfproductionstudios_Sav
      @hbmfproductionstudios_Sav Před 3 lety +5

      And "For me"

    • @erikwilliams4866
      @erikwilliams4866 Před 3 lety +5

      Skips favorite Line “Do you believe in your heart of hearts”

    • @pele914
      @pele914 Před 3 lety +1

      I honestly miss him saying his name as much😂...my fav version of which is "...you know what Skip Bayless.."😂🤣😂 he hasn't used that one in a while.

    • @honduras20
      @honduras20 Před 3 lety +2

      And "let me get this straight..."

    • @edwinayuso2358
      @edwinayuso2358 Před 3 lety +2

      He has to be told that because Skip can't process facts.

  • @deathstriker9076
    @deathstriker9076 Před 3 lety +247

    This was a mind-numbing conversation. "Turnover worthy" is an idiotic stat.

    • @manishent2
      @manishent2 Před 3 lety +12

      The dumbest term ever made up.

    • @nopeteys2424
      @nopeteys2424 Před 3 lety +16

      Yeah literally any pass could be called “turnover worthy” lol

    • @joelmoyer2462
      @joelmoyer2462 Před 3 lety +5

      @@nopeteys2424 Defensive coordinator in college said, "Three things can happen on a pass play, and two of them are bad."
      You are 100% correct.

    • @playingamez
      @playingamez Před 3 lety +2

      Fake a** stat!!!! 🤣🤣🤣

    • @johnlewis8934
      @johnlewis8934 Před 3 lety +9

      If we are gonna talk about turnover worthy plays, then we should talk about touchdown worthy plays then, because Mahomes should probably have 30 . But I don’t like living my life on should of could of would of though, because you either door do not that’s it.

  • @tdot2853
    @tdot2853 Před 3 lety +634

    Skip: QBR is the most important stat
    *Mahomes has a higher QBR than Brady*
    Skip: Naw that don't count this time

  • @sb7816
    @sb7816 Před 3 lety +491

    It doesn’t matter how many times Shay says “let this sink in” Skip just can’t do it😂

  • @ryandeen999
    @ryandeen999 Před 3 lety +53

    Skip: QBR is what I measure Quarterbacks by
    Shannon: Mahomes has a higher QBR and better in 6 other categories
    Skip: Well he had 6 passes that could have been intercepted

    • @jonathanb.9150
      @jonathanb.9150 Před 3 lety +5

      So true. Skip dancing around his own logic. Saying qbr then ignoring the fact that Brady’s qbr is garbage

    • @MrJerks93
      @MrJerks93 Před 3 lety +3

      @@jonathanb.9150 So inconsistent. He flames AAron for being too safe and throwing the ball away, but now it's a negative thing to throw into traffic (even if the ball isn't picked?)

  • @scotthays2997
    @scotthays2997 Před 3 lety +54

    I'm convinced Skip is a paid actor cast to play the antagonist character lol

    • @thekingsson1757
      @thekingsson1757 Před 3 lety +3

      or he is getting Paid by PFF

    • @theequalizers1983
      @theequalizers1983 Před 3 lety +3

      Lmfaoo for real he the villain of the show my guy never agrees with Shannon even if he’s clearly right 😂😂😂😂

    • @litany21
      @litany21 Před 3 lety +2

      Thats literally correct.

    • @DeathWing572
      @DeathWing572 Před 2 lety

      Yeh he's a tv personality

  • @mukammelchowdhury7623
    @mukammelchowdhury7623 Před 3 lety +899

    This might be skip's worst take ever, and that is saying something

    • @truestdude
      @truestdude Před 3 lety +55

      He just can't help himself. Skip is a Brady jock strap sniffer

    • @claykendall7681
      @claykendall7681 Před 3 lety +20

      Skip need to cut that mess out.

    • @nate8604
      @nate8604 Před 3 lety +17

      His takes keep getting worse, and WORSE. He takes it up a notch in ridiculousness everyday.

    • @elibinmovin9086
      @elibinmovin9086 Před 3 lety +5

      @@nate8604 no this is the worst. There's no way it get worse than this

    • @emmanuelchristie629
      @emmanuelchristie629 Před 3 lety +7

      This might be worse than max kellerman's kobe vs kawhi take. Utterly indefensible

  • @leetraviusmckay2919
    @leetraviusmckay2919 Před 3 lety +676

    Ain't no way Brady should be ranked higher than Mahomes. PFF garbage

    • @dieselx506
      @dieselx506 Před 3 lety +21

      PFF is ran by Skip on the low low, that's the plot twist we are all missing lol

    • @troublefollows9986
      @troublefollows9986 Před 3 lety +29

      Pff is saying Mahomes has had more plays that could have been turnovers .....is worse than ACTUAL TURNOVERS..🤣🤣🤣 Pff is making up stats ....
      No such thing as " turnover worthy plays" ......
      Pff is trolling.......

    • @ShutThePuck
      @ShutThePuck Před 3 lety +10

      PFF relies on subscriptions just to even view their terrible lists, they rely on controversy to drive more traffic to their website and more subscriptions to their terrible lists. They have no credibility.

    • @troublefollows9986
      @troublefollows9986 Před 3 lety +6

      @FBI Agent I understand I can't blame the qb for the defense not making plays.....
      Perfection is not required to win games.

    • @owtkvst
      @owtkvst Před 3 lety +1

      @@troublefollows9986 they’re Brady lovers. They have always been

  • @benjoseph2100
    @benjoseph2100 Před 3 lety +75

    I’d say that skip Bayless lost his credibility for this argument but he lost his credibility years ago.

  • @ausosupreme
    @ausosupreme Před 3 lety +17

    "25 TDs, 1 int, and 2700yds. Oh my goodness"

  • @wadekemmsies7180
    @wadekemmsies7180 Před 3 lety +412

    Skip there's no shame in saying Tom Brady isn't perfect

    • @vegitausa
      @vegitausa Před 3 lety +9

      Bootlickers have no shame

    • @kamfisher1714
      @kamfisher1714 Před 3 lety +1

      @@vegitausa Oh stop it your Shannon ain’t no different

    • @Jourdan314
      @Jourdan314 Před 3 lety +1

      @@kamfisher1714 Shannon has said many times Tom is the GOAT. What are you talking about lol.

    • @kamfisher1714
      @kamfisher1714 Před 3 lety

      @@Jourdan314 Then proceeds to say Aaron Rodgers is better than him stop it

    • @drip2hard976
      @drip2hard976 Před 3 lety +1

      @@kamfisher1714 i think he said more talented either way it docent skip knows he's wrong and he wont admit it

  • @aidenrobbins6771
    @aidenrobbins6771 Před 3 lety +557

    Can skip just agree with Shannon for once in his life. He be getting annoying af

    • @justincortinas3167
      @justincortinas3167 Před 3 lety +24

      Lol never ! They straight troll each other the whole show 😂😂🤣

    • @codycastillo9331
      @codycastillo9331 Před 3 lety +48

      They get paid to disagree with each other

    • @geno9274
      @geno9274 Před 3 lety +37

      He’s not a real analyst that’s why. Just an entertainer

    • @CatsFerDays
      @CatsFerDays Před 3 lety +5

      Skip loves 3 things. Brady, pats, Dallas

    • @quarterbackin3262
      @quarterbackin3262 Před 3 lety +2

      Not when it come to Mahomes!

  • @sawyerbix3028
    @sawyerbix3028 Před 3 lety +27

    If mahomes is inconsistent.... then the whole league is damn inconsistent😂😂😂

  • @christophermm23
    @christophermm23 Před 3 lety +16

    I was going to comment how insane that is, but everybody else has it covered.

  • @hihowareya1505
    @hihowareya1505 Před 3 lety +233

    Skip really cares about some of the most useless stats and when he gets questions about it he just turns it over to another question

    • @raymondmcmillan9241
      @raymondmcmillan9241 Před 3 lety +7

      I've been noticing that in a bunch of segments? Skip is that old man get off my lawn type?

    • @emilhoward1754
      @emilhoward1754 Před 3 lety +11

      I never heard of “ turnover worthy plays” hahahahaha

    • @goattyson627
      @goattyson627 Před 3 lety +5

      @@emilhoward1754 😂😂😂 that's that "SBFF" Skip Bayless Football Focus

    • @truestdude
      @truestdude Před 3 lety +1

      @@goattyson627 😅😅😅 call em Skip Basehead

    • @ImaweomsewhatcanIsay
      @ImaweomsewhatcanIsay Před 3 lety

      @@emilhoward1754 yea and the guy with 7 turnovers has had less turnover worthy plays. That’s doesn’t even make sense when you compare that to a guy with 1 turnover 😂

  • @Squeezemycrackers
    @Squeezemycrackers Před 3 lety +287

    Bruh this comparison is like me getting a F in math but my report card says A. Brady is nowhere near mahomes as of right now.

    • @047Kenny
      @047Kenny Před 3 lety +5

      Mahomes might ring chase.

    • @mawile2468
      @mawile2468 Před 3 lety +2

      I know...Brady is LEAGUES above Mahomes, so I see what you mean 😃

    • @mawile2468
      @mawile2468 Před 3 lety

      @Nicky Santoro Who has more Super Bowl Rings? The more appropriate comparison for Patrick Mahomes is Joe Flacco or Tyrod Taylor, who ALSO have Super Bowl Rings.
      Patrick Mahomes = Tyrod Taylor

    • @abney_66
      @abney_66 Před 3 lety +1

      @@mawile2468 but what about rn tho?

    • @mawile2468
      @mawile2468 Před 3 lety

      @Nicky Santoro Lol Mark Sanchez < Crap < Patrick Mahomes. You need to use your brain to see this, moron 😃

  • @WhyHighC
    @WhyHighC Před 3 lety +64

    Shannon is far too decorated to be discussing something as ridiculous as “turnover worthy plays”

    • @daledan-irabor3018
      @daledan-irabor3018 Před 3 lety +1

      Facts!

    • @skitzo5214
      @skitzo5214 Před 3 lety +5

      Skip is to experienced to be using that stat. He just loves tom brady. The most biased analyst in sports, followed closely by cowherd and kellerman.

  • @donnyfairunforgiven5859
    @donnyfairunforgiven5859 Před 3 lety +16

    This dude hates patrick with he's whole heart.

  • @Squeezemycrackers
    @Squeezemycrackers Před 3 lety +143

    Mahomes has More Yards, More TDs, Less Int., Better record, Better efficiency, etc. This is a joke.

    • @rayj1013
      @rayj1013 Před 3 lety +12

      It's all about turn over worthy plays haha

    • @ShutThePuck
      @ShutThePuck Před 3 lety +7

      Controversy = Clicks

    • @christopheradams4500
      @christopheradams4500 Před 3 lety +1

      @@rayj1013 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @ericrivera5811
      @ericrivera5811 Před 3 lety +3

      And the joke ain’t even funny

    • @timocruz510
      @timocruz510 Před 3 lety +1

      @@ShutThePuck Okay but PFF tries to be the epitome of accuracy. It's their business model.

  • @Solostar9
    @Solostar9 Před 3 lety +334

    PFF has been dead to me. They have no credibility with most football fans.

    • @WillAyeAmNot
      @WillAyeAmNot Před 3 lety +2

      Most stupid fans lol

    • @Stanley_Fields
      @Stanley_Fields Před 3 lety +13

      They turning football into geometry with these meaningless metrics!

    • @HollyG95
      @HollyG95 Před 3 lety

      💯💯

    • @zacharyschultz7991
      @zacharyschultz7991 Před 3 lety

      @@WillAyeAmNot have you looked at their grading? I’ll agree that some of its good but a lot of it is just awful.

    • @WillAyeAmNot
      @WillAyeAmNot Před 3 lety

      @@zacharyschultz7991 I have. I also listen to all their podcasts where they explain it all. I think their system is good and I think people need to actually give reasons why they disagree with them instead of naming useless box score stats which can be massively misleading

  • @rickyrobby8133
    @rickyrobby8133 Před 3 lety +109

    “It should’ve been an interception,” and “they shouldn’t have scored on that play” are TERRIBLE excuses. That’s not football, either it happened or it didn’t, you can’t grade people on what you think statistically should have happened.
    These people are grading QB’s on what should have happened by percentage rather than what did happen. If that’s how things worked, why even play the game? Whoever is favored should just have the win, and the other team should just take the L. It’s stupid logic.
    Anyone honestly saying Brady has outplayed Mahomes either is not being honest, or isn’t watching the games seriously. And I say that as a Raiders fan.

    • @TheShepdawg9
      @TheShepdawg9 Před 3 lety +3

      No its actually an accurate evaluation. Dropped interceptions are still extremely bad plays by a quarterback. PFF only takes into account what a quarterback can control.

    • @collinbrummund5925
      @collinbrummund5925 Před 3 lety +3

      @@TheShepdawg9 So Tom Brady has had a better year than Patrick Mahomes?

    • @bobbybacland4222
      @bobbybacland4222 Před 3 lety

      Only when it suits skips (trump) argument.

    • @alaskau9175
      @alaskau9175 Před 3 lety +13

      @@TheShepdawg9 Someone asked PFF if they'd factored in the velocity of Mahomes' throws, if it might have an affect on dropped interceptions, along with a few other things that might affect so many dropped interceptions, and they said "No, we didn't look into that." So how can you in good faith invent a stat without looking into everything that would affect that stat?

    • @TheShepdawg9
      @TheShepdawg9 Před 3 lety +1

      @@alaskau9175 well I guarantee you its not just ball velocity that affects interceptions, because Favre and Jeff George had a heap of interceptions per year. Thanks for your input though.

  • @mrsmith6581
    @mrsmith6581 Před 3 lety +16

    My boy skip is in serious denial.🤣

    • @contentgenius3290
      @contentgenius3290 Před 3 lety +1

      right!

    • @dts_8247
      @dts_8247 Před 3 lety

      Mr. Smith I’ma tell u like this... Skip on that stuff 😂😂

    • @mrsmith6581
      @mrsmith6581 Před 3 lety +3

      @@dts_8247 😂...yeah too many cases of mt dew.😂😂

  • @spencerd5128
    @spencerd5128 Před 3 lety +179

    Skip is physically incapable of criticizing Tom Brady. He needs to get off of television.

    • @brandonw6139
      @brandonw6139 Před 3 lety +14

      He's so biased

    • @ligament6666
      @ligament6666 Před 3 lety +6

      That’s the point it’s exaggerated for tv that’s the whole point of a sports debate show

    • @brandonw6139
      @brandonw6139 Před 3 lety

      @@ligament6666 true

    • @brendafaulkner2431
      @brendafaulkner2431 Před 3 lety

      @@brandonw6139 Yep

    • @OiTzAsian247
      @OiTzAsian247 Před 3 lety +8

      Yeah he's paid to do this. It gets engagement and conversations started. And it keeps the conversations going. There's a purpose to it all but at this point we can all tell its fake and annoying. They need to figure out other ways to create discussions

  • @TheWiseguysTCG
    @TheWiseguysTCG Před 3 lety +560

    One of the stupidest takes I've ever actually heard in football history. Look we all respect Brady and a lot of people think the world of our quarterback and rightfully so because he is a world champion and a League MVP. It's segments like that is literally why I'm slowly starting to stop watching Undisputed or literally just listen to Shannon's take and then leave. They need to take the topic choosing out of Skips hands before people don't watch anymore

    • @sierrasymone7590
      @sierrasymone7590 Před 3 lety +29

      Thank you

    • @duvaltilwedie904
      @duvaltilwedie904 Před 3 lety +23

      Well said bro.

    • @Ty91681
      @Ty91681 Před 3 lety +29

      They're talking about all this bs on purpose anyway. Pff is just damaging their own credibility by publishing it. This isn't the first time they've created questionable "rankings". Nobody in their right mind and not being paid to argue for a living thinks Brady is currently on mahommes level. All these TV networks just want to sow discord amongst everyone they can. Just don't take the bait. This is the first segment I've watched in months for that very reason.

    • @juliangroves808
      @juliangroves808 Před 3 lety +6

      No cap

    • @kjames2001
      @kjames2001 Před 3 lety +25

      Well said. Skip is becoming even more unbearable.

  • @dondaddydollazjr.6159
    @dondaddydollazjr.6159 Před 3 lety +12

    Shannon sharpe right “a million percent!” 😂😂😂😂😂stop it

  • @LAisthehome
    @LAisthehome Před 3 lety +6

    I just started the video and my over/under on Skip saying “big time throws” is 5 any takers?? Lol

  • @JJJ20999
    @JJJ20999 Před 3 lety +155

    I’m still trying to figure out skips’s argument he’s still hasn’t said anything even though he’s been talking.

    • @sean198722
      @sean198722 Před 3 lety +11

      He's still talking about mahomes superbowl. Lol

    • @bascho1490
      @bascho1490 Před 3 lety +3

      Sounds like skip

    • @davidhenderson6704
      @davidhenderson6704 Před 3 lety +1

      He never does I don't understand

    • @JJJ20999
      @JJJ20999 Před 3 lety +1

      @@sean198722 yeah but the Super Bowl is irrelevant we’re talking about THIS SEASON that’s my point guy

  • @leetraviusmckay2919
    @leetraviusmckay2919 Před 3 lety +171

    Patrick Mahomes: the fastest player to reach 100 career passing tds in 40 games

    • @denzelkoe
      @denzelkoe Před 3 lety +24

      But according to skip he’s inconsistent when yet he’s still tearing up the league

    • @mariofarias533
      @mariofarias533 Před 3 lety +2

      @@denzelkoe I agree than he stil needs to improve. But so did Brady. He wasn't a franchise Peyton Manning's style qb when he won his first 3 super bowls. Just wait

    • @iambicindeedv267
      @iambicindeedv267 Před 3 lety +5

      @@mariofarias533 Your just high bruh

    • @Kj-so7zd
      @Kj-so7zd Před 3 lety +1

      @@mariofarias533 well damn if he needs to improve with the way he is now, Jesus imagine him then

    • @javareejohnson9132
      @javareejohnson9132 Před 3 lety

      @@mariofarias533 I’m not tryin be hostile but what does he need to improve on because he did just learn how to read defenses

  • @lancehandy6648
    @lancehandy6648 Před 3 lety +8

    5:50 when the special kid on the bus talks about football

  • @chadlimpus7457
    @chadlimpus7457 Před 3 lety +12

    Skip sounding like he getting dementia..talkin crazy.

  • @TheOneKeyToLife
    @TheOneKeyToLife Před 3 lety +95

    I’m actually glad PFF and other outlets continue to disrespect Mahomes. All he’s gonna do is just feed off it and continue to play even better 😳

    • @Max_Krypto
      @Max_Krypto Před 3 lety +5

      Exactly!! More fuel to the tank

    • @timesize
      @timesize Před 3 lety

      He don’t need that kind of motivation. I’ll take the underestimation though 👌🏼

    • @paulspearjr742
      @paulspearjr742 Před 3 lety

      @MMA MMA u cant compare they play so different mahomes runs around till someone gets open brady sits in the pocket. Their both great

  • @sb7816
    @sb7816 Před 3 lety +90

    I don’t even understand how Skip can say this stuff with a straight face🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @intelligencecycle3523
      @intelligencecycle3523 Před 3 lety +2

      Because he’s a Mahomes Hater that’s why he wants Him to perform this Rigorous High standard.

    • @DANIGAL101
      @DANIGAL101 Před 3 lety +1

      💯. It’s ridiculous

    • @nicholas104
      @nicholas104 Před 3 lety +3

      He's just saying it for the ratings. Remember everyone.... it's not about the takes..... it's about the *ratings*

    • @radboy490
      @radboy490 Před 3 lety +2

      @@intelligencecycle3523 skip only likes Brady

    • @hinata365247
      @hinata365247 Před 3 lety

      @@nicholas104 right its just plain stupid tho!

  • @KleinpeterHank
    @KleinpeterHank Před 3 lety +45

    PFF probably rated Brady a 90 for last Sunday’s game against the Saints.

    • @Acradus
      @Acradus Před 3 lety +6

      All ratings are just a scale of Jameis to Tebow

    • @Amrase_
      @Amrase_ Před 3 lety

      They rated him a 55 worse game this season by far for him

  • @gvxg
    @gvxg Před 3 lety +11

    Skip always uses specific stats when it’s most convenient. When he was trying the prove Dak was the greatest last year QBR was the Bible. Not that it ranks Mahomes over Brady it’s not relevant lol.

  • @Hashtonkusher1
    @Hashtonkusher1 Před 3 lety +60

    Anyone else see the irony in skip telling Shannon him to stop judging by love and hate. When he keeps defending his soulmate tom Brady

  • @lukeross2227
    @lukeross2227 Před 3 lety +93

    I like how Shannon is actually arguing against PFF but skip is pretty much just saying
    "No PFF is right PFF said so"

    • @______brazil
      @______brazil Před 3 lety +3

      Lol it’s ridiculous but his hands are tied. They gotta make good tv

    • @JohnDavis_90
      @JohnDavis_90 Před 3 lety +2

      @@______brazil that part

    • @saucegodxx5825
      @saucegodxx5825 Před 3 lety

      He is a Christian sooooo... yeah

    • @crondonjohnson4128
      @crondonjohnson4128 Před 3 lety +1

      @@______brazil True, it wouldn't be a show if they both just agreed lol.

  • @dwoolf7019
    @dwoolf7019 Před 3 lety +2

    I was dying when Shannon said "maybe N.O. has a voodoo doll on him".......😂🤣😂

  • @HotakXvi
    @HotakXvi Před 3 lety +13

    Only the weatherman can be wrong just as much and get paid like Skip....

  • @jc-5888
    @jc-5888 Před 3 lety +129

    skip making a fool of himself once again.

  • @Bilaldinho1
    @Bilaldinho1 Před 3 lety +110

    This is why I never listen to PFF. Mahomes easily playing better than Brady.

    • @dalewilkerson4723
      @dalewilkerson4723 Před 3 lety +1

      Come on Skip... Stop being a hater... You know damn well shay sharpe is right... You do mahomes like you do lebron... Smh

  • @randofacto4271
    @randofacto4271 Před 3 lety +7

    Damn, skip never ceases to amaze. He would be in heaven if Brady and Dak ran a train on him

  • @shefvm0us635
    @shefvm0us635 Před 3 lety +3

    “New Orleans ain’t got nothing to do with maybe they got a voodoo doll on him”😂

  • @mitchellajieroh
    @mitchellajieroh Před 3 lety +170

    PPF has the worst rankings

    • @glint6070
      @glint6070 Před 3 lety +29

      "turnover worthy" plays are worse than plays that actually led to turnovers apparently

    • @mitchellajieroh
      @mitchellajieroh Před 3 lety +5

      @@glint6070 Fr and how do u calculate “big time throws” that stat is not objective at all

    • @davidmaez7253
      @davidmaez7253 Před 3 lety

      Thank you !!!

    • @taylorjones8520
      @taylorjones8520 Před 3 lety +3

      Almost turnovers are worse than actual turnovers.😂😂😂

  • @traegant449
    @traegant449 Před 3 lety +260

    Pff is a joke lol mahomes has 25Td’s 1 pick and his team is 8-1 lol not even close

    • @denzelkoe
      @denzelkoe Před 3 lety +10

      Thank you Pff sucks it’s skips only argument always Pff ranks blah blah blah bro Pff loves Brady it’s Biased towards him especially after coming off that terrible game

    • @shawnnewcomer4879
      @shawnnewcomer4879 Před 3 lety +1

      Puts Speedbump Charlie Leno Jr. In top ten🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢

    • @tylers9476
      @tylers9476 Před 3 lety +2

      Mahomes only beat two teams that have over 3 wins? And only played one defense that has ranked in the top 15 being Baltimore...inflated stats bud

    • @denzelkoe
      @denzelkoe Před 3 lety +12

      @@tylers9476 and you still have to perform just pointing this out anyone can win on any night so for them to continue to play well shows how great he is

    • @ChiTownWarrior1
      @ChiTownWarrior1 Před 3 lety +8

      @@tylers9476 You outta yo damn mind.

  • @SchaunDOBrien
    @SchaunDOBrien Před 3 lety +10

    This is the most insane argument I have ever witnessed.

  • @joe5391
    @joe5391 Před 3 lety +2

    Lmao if you pause at 13:25... that is meme worthy for Shannon right there! Hilarious.

  • @tdot2853
    @tdot2853 Před 3 lety +62

    When Shannon brings up Bradys QBRs in those 3 games.
    Skip: Mhmmmmhm
    😂😂😂

  • @nicflair999
    @nicflair999 Před 3 lety +94

    I’m already knowing Skip gonna try to say Brady has 6 rings in this debate.

    • @lukeyost7566
      @lukeyost7566 Před 3 lety +1

      My guy it’s the same narratives skip is the one that supports Brady and Shannon is the one that doesn’t.... it’s the same thing every time... same as Shannon supports Rodgers and skip doesn’t

  • @charlesthomas8179
    @charlesthomas8179 Před 3 lety +13

    What on earth is skip on he’s killing me with this Brady love

  • @darealdirtykay8030
    @darealdirtykay8030 Před 3 lety +5

    Skip just don’t care😂, he gone get his point across

  • @looechange7966
    @looechange7966 Před 3 lety +59

    But the crazy thing is you can look at Skip's face and tell when he's lying to himself

    • @youtubewatcher4955
      @youtubewatcher4955 Před 3 lety +4

      Man is just earning his bread. Dudes paid to lie and he does it well.

    • @looechange7966
      @looechange7966 Před 3 lety +3

      @@youtubewatcher4955 you are right. Plus I think he gets satisfaction because he knows that it pisses Shannon off

    • @henrycavillsrealmustache3553
      @henrycavillsrealmustache3553 Před 3 lety +2

      @@looechange7966 nah because they are genuine friends, he says it to make shannon mad for the tv appeal but in reality as soon as they say cut he probably is like “yea PFF really tripping” 😂

    • @TaylorDjetx
      @TaylorDjetx Před 3 lety +1

      @@looechange7966 He definitely enjoys it, enjoyed trolling when he was on First Take too lol

    • @looechange7966
      @looechange7966 Před 3 lety

      @@henrycavillsrealmustache3553 thats what makes it fun to skip tho. Lol look at the stonefaced expression...almost as if he is trying not to laugh at his own points...especially at the end. Lmao

  • @Ayyerell
    @Ayyerell Před 3 lety +100

    Shannon literally combatted and had a comeback to every one of Skip’s delusional and stupid points🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @masterfist7148
      @masterfist7148 Před 3 lety +3

      Exactly destroyed every single one of Skip’s arguments. This segment was a joke to even bring up🤣 Mahomes has clearly played better than Brady this season.

    • @steelerspittsburgh875
      @steelerspittsburgh875 Před 3 lety +2

      This show is more entertaining when they don't agree. Skiiip 🤣

  • @marc5743
    @marc5743 Před 3 lety +6

    Mahomes: Has bad beginning of season but has highest numbers in NFL....... Imagine him when he is doing good........ Let that sink in

  • @chukmorris8264
    @chukmorris8264 Před 3 lety +10

    Dude!!! Lol Shannon is literally wiping the floor with Skip and guys.... SMH 🤦🏾‍♂️, lol it’s getting embarrassing. I feel like week in week out, month in month out, year in year out Shannon “THE..... Uncle, Unk, Unk Shay Shay, G.A’S FINEST” Sharpe is really getting a lot better reinventing himself and adding to his already on point charisma. I feel like Skip is just getting by with his first and last name and he’s not bringing anything to the table of significance and I feel that Shannon is really carrying this show & skip right now. TIGHTEN up skip Bayless we love you man but hold up your end of the bargain....... Much Love Kings🤴& Queens 👸................. 👉🏻✌🏽👈🏾

    • @Mik3yLow
      @Mik3yLow Před 2 lety

      Skip will NEVER give in now that he knows Brady watches the show. No matter how horribly wrong he is

    • @elcid8889
      @elcid8889 Před 2 lety

      Skip Bayless is the president of the 'Tom Brady Cult Members Club'.

  • @eastoak84
    @eastoak84 Před 3 lety +84

    Every time they call out skip on his BS he just says “mmmm”😂🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @AdrianKing2o
    @AdrianKing2o Před 3 lety +178

    I want to know 8 quarterbacks that had a worse game this week than Tom Brady

  • @P_Sandhu
    @P_Sandhu Před 3 lety +6

    C'mon Skip! Does everything in your arsenal revolve around pro football focus? Since when are they the football bible? 🙄

  • @iverson8484
    @iverson8484 Před 3 lety +5

    There's no way skip believes the bs coming out of his mouth.. gotta be playing this up for tv

    • @litany21
      @litany21 Před 3 lety

      Literally what he's doing.

  • @gthegreat4856
    @gthegreat4856 Před 3 lety +71

    Somehow skip is gonna make it seem like Tom deserves this ranking

  • @jamesp2794
    @jamesp2794 Před 3 lety +181

    Skip is the most bias analysis on tv, terrible at his job

    • @ye6973
      @ye6973 Před 3 lety +2

      that’s what makes him great, you’re talking about him aren’t you?

    • @tylers9476
      @tylers9476 Před 3 lety +3

      that is literally his job lol

    • @doc8013
      @doc8013 Před 3 lety +11

      @@ye6973 lmao no, that's what makes him utterly terrible with zero credibility.

    • @intelligencecycle3523
      @intelligencecycle3523 Před 3 lety +2

      @@doc8013 FACTS MAN!

    • @juliangroves808
      @juliangroves808 Před 3 lety +8

      I mean, it isn't terrible that he is biased, what makes it so bad is that he can't even give any other players their applause when they do something great or have a good performance. If Skip goes on and on about Brady having a great game or Kawhi having a 40 point triple double, Shannon can give him his props. Meanwhile if LeBron or Mahomes does the same thing or better, he will not give them any applause ever and instead wants to bring up previous stats and stuff like that.

  • @kaad7
    @kaad7 Před 3 lety +4

    5:49 one of my favorite Skip moments ever 🤣

  • @Tumer74
    @Tumer74 Před 3 lety +1

    Shannon's face at 1:41 says the most out of anything in this video.

  • @leultsegaye3987
    @leultsegaye3987 Před 3 lety +50

    Mahomes should be #1 for all I care, he's been BALLIN. Chiefs are definitely Super Bowl favorites because of his play.

    • @tylers9476
      @tylers9476 Před 3 lety

      Mahomes only beat two teams that have over 3 wins? And only played one defense that has ranked in the top 15 being Baltimore...inflated stats bud

    • @tyronejones1082
      @tyronejones1082 Před 3 lety +1

      @@tylers9476 Are we going to look at who Brady played? He beat 2 teams with a positive record and got blown out 2/3 times they played playoff teams.

    • @tylers9476
      @tylers9476 Před 3 lety

      @@tyronejones1082 not talking about Brady? talking about his argument for Mahomes number 1

  • @jpatt85
    @jpatt85 Před 3 lety +36

    Skip finally managed to make ZERO sense.

  • @boomsquadTFLH
    @boomsquadTFLH Před 3 lety +6

    TF is “turnover worthy plays”. I feel like they adding stupid stats every year.

    • @richricey2481
      @richricey2481 Před 3 lety +1

      It’s unbelievable 😂 , talent wise we all know mahomes is the best, stat wise he’s doing the best, the chiefs are 8-1? Where the argument skip

  • @Alex20272
    @Alex20272 Před 3 lety +4

    Me reading this: okay this has to be all time, Me clicks it and reads title THE AMOUNT OF DISRESPECT

  • @danielshirley1772
    @danielshirley1772 Před 3 lety +105

    This argument is absolutely absurd. This shouldn’t even be an argument. This is not about career accomplishments but right now. Ask any GM if they would take Brady or Mahomes and 32 would pick Mahomes for this year.

    • @carledwards3469
      @carledwards3469 Před 3 lety +10

      This man has the nerve to base his whole argument off of turnover worthy plays

    • @danielshirley1772
      @danielshirley1772 Před 3 lety +1

      @@carledwards3469 exactly! Out of all the points Shannon made the only argument he had was he has more turnover worthy plays. Too bad Mahomes is ahead of Brady except picks😂

    • @brandonw6139
      @brandonw6139 Před 3 lety +1

      Ask any Tampa fan would they rather have mahomes or Brady lol

    • @danielshirley1772
      @danielshirley1772 Před 3 lety +1

      @@TeamKP1 ok so take all the stats out of it are you honestly gonna tell me that for this season you would take Tom Brady over Patrick Mahomes. Don’t worry about stats just eye test and talent who would you take this season given the choice?

    • @marcusmagice
      @marcusmagice Před 3 lety

      @@TeamKP1
      How do you know he threw it and it was catchable to the defender ? They aren’t getting their hands on those grabs for a reason. Maybe just maybe it’s not luck at all but timing and great film study .

  • @travisbaltimore31
    @travisbaltimore31 Před 3 lety +68

    Skip will not give MAHOMES his respect. People forget MAHOMES hasn't been in the league barely 5 years yet. Usual Skip

    • @cleavoncraddock
      @cleavoncraddock Před 3 lety +7

      3 in a half years and one of those years was behind Alex Smith. Young man is just scratching the surface.

    • @dakota8381
      @dakota8381 Před 3 lety

      Ok so keep him out of the conversation for the best QB ever until he gets the experience.

  • @Reallife-Realsports-Realtopics

    Why is Shannon always staring at Skip's notes when he's talking?? 😄😄😄 Love Shannon!

  • @Proteanlife
    @Proteanlife Před 3 lety +2

    13:25 explains the whole segment. Utilize your time better than I did😒

  • @alixnemorin1935
    @alixnemorin1935 Před 3 lety +20

    Skip got slaughtered in this segment

  • @MrLild88
    @MrLild88 Před 3 lety +141

    Skips feels like “turnover worthy plays” are more costly then actual turnovers . Thats the comment .

    • @TheShepdawg9
      @TheShepdawg9 Před 3 lety +1

      They are more costly to a quarterbacks performance. Some interceptions aren't the fault of the quarterback, just like some incomplete passes should've been interceptions.

    • @godofwar3711
      @godofwar3711 Před 3 lety +14

      @@TheShepdawg9 but who gets the stat? The QB or the receiver? It shouldn't matter if the ball "should" have been intercepted. Did it or did it not. Thats the point Shannon is making. If its intercepted the QB gets the INT. No one else.

    • @TheShepdawg9
      @TheShepdawg9 Před 3 lety

      @@godofwar3711 interceptions should be a team stat instead of purely that of a quarterback. Half of them are the fault of the receiver. Thats why when grading the actual play of a quarterback, people shouldn't just look at the interception column.

    • @genovaz
      @genovaz Před 3 lety +7

      @@TheShepdawg9 "Turnover worthy plays" is the worse stat I've ever seen made up.

    • @TheShepdawg9
      @TheShepdawg9 Před 3 lety

      @@genovaz no chance of college for you my friend

  • @justinfrazier9555
    @justinfrazier9555 Před 3 lety +2

    Mahomes has the greatest arm I have ever seen. And I saw Michael Vick toss it 60 yards on one knee.

  • @Reallife-Realsports-Realtopics

    "If you don't mind me asking" is Shannon's favorite line!! 😂😂

    • @nicholasalford9729
      @nicholasalford9729 Před 9 měsíci

      Nah it’s can I interest you this or it’s let that sink in 🤣🤣

  • @SuntanSuperman8
    @SuntanSuperman8 Před 3 lety +131

    Skippy Brainless: “ A highly respected website...”
    Unc: “No it ain’t highly respected!” 10:49 😂😂😂

  • @jayp8124
    @jayp8124 Před 3 lety +40

    Skip: Mahomes threw less spirals than Tom Brady !!!

  • @joshblaine4470
    @joshblaine4470 Před 3 lety +3

    When it comes to defending Brady skip blows my mind

  • @drizzyuzumaki8753
    @drizzyuzumaki8753 Před 3 lety

    20 years ago when I played pop Warner it was a team who motioned their qb on almost every play so if that’s special coach Ed was way ahead of his time

  • @wastedbread8036
    @wastedbread8036 Před 3 lety +151

    Tom is the GOAT but Mahomes is playing at a higher level right now.

    • @tipdrillentertainment4531
      @tipdrillentertainment4531 Před 3 lety +11

      makes sense brady 43 he should not be talked about, pff is smoking

    • @Jon155mt
      @Jon155mt Před 3 lety +1

      True and true.

    • @masterp2269
      @masterp2269 Před 3 lety +3

      Brady is still decent but a shell of his former self. And I'm sorry but Brady never had the talent Mahomes does now. Which actually makes his feats even more impressive, but he has never possessed the physical talent Mahomes does.

    • @nate8604
      @nate8604 Před 3 lety

      @@masterp2269 he didn’t need to, he had Bill Belichick.

    • @chrisbonfigkio3892
      @chrisbonfigkio3892 Před 3 lety

      @@masterp2269 mqhomes never had randy moss who os argueably the b3st wr of all time. I believe randy moss is best of all time. Jerry rice was nice and all but known user of stick um

  • @mannyrodriguez7178
    @mannyrodriguez7178 Před 3 lety +136

    PFF just a joke we all know They're all a part of the Brady fanboy club

    • @dieselx506
      @dieselx506 Před 3 lety +7

      They're run and founded by Skip but he keeps it on the low low

    • @nickt2222
      @nickt2222 Před 3 lety +1

      And TJ watt, I watched that man have a mediocre at best game and they still gave him a grade in the 90s smh

    • @trix507
      @trix507 Před 3 lety

      @@nickt2222 you’re stupid... he has the most pressures, TFLs and QB hits and he gets doubled and hedged by RB/TEs... sacks aren’t the only stat that matters

    • @nickt2222
      @nickt2222 Před 3 lety +1

      @@trix507 still overrated by PFF🤷‍♂️ I watch him play and he isn’t as dominant as garrett and Donald. I’ll take sacks and forced fumbles (which Donald and Garrett have) over TFL and qb hits any day🤷‍♂️ he leads in pressures, but not by a lot. And he has 0 turnovers from pressure vs Garrett’s 7 and Donald’s 3. But PFF loves him so he always gets the highest rating😂 he did not play very well against Dallas. Batted a couple passes, missed some tackles, got 0.5 sacks at the end bc of cam heyward.

    • @nickt2222
      @nickt2222 Před 3 lety

      @@trix507 and those other guys get doubled by 2 linemen, not just a chip block from a rb

  • @TheRealKombaT1
    @TheRealKombaT1 Před 3 lety

    Best debate show right here I love it

  • @nate8604
    @nate8604 Před 3 lety +2

    What’s funny is, Skip had actually said Mahomes was going to be good coming out of college. He became better than what most thought he would be, challenging the likes of TB12, now Skip acting like his feats aren’t that impressive.....and again, he was higher on Mahomes coming out of college than Shannon was. The flip is hilarious.

  • @richardramos8218
    @richardramos8218 Před 3 lety +39

    Skip needs to accept Rodgers at 2 if he can accept Brady is above Mahomes 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

    • @radboy490
      @radboy490 Před 3 lety +2

      Put Rodgers in the bucs, there 7-2 rt now or 8-1

    • @richardramos8218
      @richardramos8218 Před 3 lety

      @@radboy490 Easily. Brady always strapped with a Top 5 or Top 10 Defense.

  • @Hp-gc1kz
    @Hp-gc1kz Před 3 lety +46

    Before watching this segment I went straight to comments to see is this even worth watching. Because I know skip is a huge Tom Brady fan but dude c’mon, I’m thinking to myself, “there is no way scape would argue this”. And the comments confirmed my fear and saved me 14min of garbage.

    • @mayidiepls6662
      @mayidiepls6662 Před 3 lety +1

      Skip’s problem and this goes for most any media when they are on the wrong side of the argument they will use any bs stats or just take stats out of context

    • @galactic-gumbo9911
      @galactic-gumbo9911 Před 3 lety

      You should’ve watched. skip might be delusional when it comes to TB but it makes for damn entertaining content

  • @therush420
    @therush420 Před 3 lety +12

    Nobody:
    No one:
    Not a soul:
    Skip: Big time throws

  • @10FN0N3
    @10FN0N3 Před 3 lety +5

    Since when was turnover worthy plays a stat? 😂

  • @jaythegidda8446
    @jaythegidda8446 Před 3 lety +69

    Skip can’t be serious there’s literally no argument

    • @deciuswtasby
      @deciuswtasby Před 3 lety

      Skip would argue a stop sign is orange and not red if it came to Brady.

    • @richricey2481
      @richricey2481 Před 3 lety

      He’s like it’s farvesk the defenders can’t catch the interceptions wtf haha farve was a pic machine for start

  • @robbo03
    @robbo03 Před 3 lety +26

    4:35 one of the most blasphemous things I've ever heard to this day. The fact he can sit there in front of a HOF 3x Super Bowl champion TE is outright delusion.

    • @danimal287
      @danimal287 Před 3 lety

      Shannon only won 2 rings if i'm not mistaken.

    • @danimal287
      @danimal287 Před 3 lety +1

      Nevrmind you're right lol

    • @robbo03
      @robbo03 Před 3 lety +1

      @@danimal287 haha

    • @100spurs
      @100spurs Před 3 lety

      @@danimal287 Na. He won’t 3. 2 in Denver and 1 with Baltimore

    • @lancehandy6648
      @lancehandy6648 Před 3 lety +1

      Ikr? So if Tom Shady threw the ball harder his throws wouldnt have been picked? I guess how hard a qb can throw isnt on pff. But turnover potential throws are? Like wtf

  • @fodayjaward2104
    @fodayjaward2104 Před 3 lety

    It’s the voodu doll for me 😂😂

  • @Amb63
    @Amb63 Před 3 lety

    That’s like your car Insurance company saying “you almost got into a wreck 5x so we’re docking you” if you got into 1 fender bender. Almost isn’t the same as doing.

  • @JJJ20999
    @JJJ20999 Před 3 lety +51

    Notice how skip says “body of work” then contradicts himself during this take.

  • @leetraviusmckay2919
    @leetraviusmckay2919 Před 3 lety +47

    This is a flat out joke lmao Mahomes is on a whole another level than Brady currently

    • @tylers9476
      @tylers9476 Před 3 lety

      are you 5 years old and watching football for the first time?

    • @tytymomo6410
      @tytymomo6410 Před 3 lety +9

      @@tylers9476 are you? Mahomes is light years ahead of Tom Brady right now.

  • @elykelton9222
    @elykelton9222 Před 3 lety

    The chair squeak at 13:29😂

  • @charlesthomas8179
    @charlesthomas8179 Před 3 lety

    I can’t believe I just saw and heard this 🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️

  • @zoobiezaa
    @zoobiezaa Před 3 lety +47

    SKIP WHATTTTT 😂😂 ONE OF THE WORST TAKES IN TELEVISION HISTORY WTFF🤣🤣

    • @richeyd12
      @richeyd12 Před 3 lety +1

      Facts skip on that bs

    • @TheShepdawg9
      @TheShepdawg9 Před 3 lety

      No skip was actually right for once.

    • @TheShepdawg9
      @TheShepdawg9 Před 3 lety

      @Deaven Snyder absolutely i have. I'm just applying an IQ higher than 70 to this topic. Interception tally is not a great metric for quarterback play.

  • @rkneegordon6316
    @rkneegordon6316 Před 3 lety +64

    Ship bayless master of the art, of picking facts to make sure he’s never wrong.

    • @marklupica3296
      @marklupica3296 Před 3 lety +1

      Yet,he is 1000% wrong and we all know it and so does he..

    • @animeid4865
      @animeid4865 Před 3 lety +1

      That's what a logical argument is suppose to be 🤨

  • @salamanderz5847
    @salamanderz5847 Před 3 lety +6

    I absolutely love Brady & I’m usually bias, but Shannon is right about this one 🧐