Great Value Gaming PC (Build Guide) Ryzen 5 7600 + Radeon RX 7700 XT
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Video Index
00:00 - Welcome to Hardware Unboxed
00:39 - Ad-Spot
01:19 - CPU
02:14 - Motherboard
04:15 - Memory
05:01 - Storage
05:48 - Graphics Card
07:35 - Power Supply
08:09 - Case
08:31 - Cooling
10:43 - Testing, Box Cooler
11:15 - Testing, Air-Cooler
11:40 - Testing, 240mm AIO
12:27 - Testing, 360mm AIO
13:26 - Testing, GPU
13:48 - Gaming Performance
14:58 - Wrap up
Great Value Gaming PC (Build Guide) Ryzen 5 7600 + Radeon RX 7700 XT
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I noticed in the comments and from HU responses to comments that there is a confusion between budget and value builds. This video is about value build, but people are confusing it with budget builds. Here is a difference between these two. When you are making a value build, you are looking best bang for your buck. You are not looking for cheapest parts, but parts which give you the most per dollar spent. Budget build on the other hand tries to achieve minimum acceptable performance for as little money as possible. These things are not the same. Here is the recap:
Budget -> Cheapest computer for acceptable gaming performance
Value -> Getting the best performing PC for as little as possible
🙂 agree but either way its Underwelming
If you want value, you gotta live next to a microcenter and watch their bundle deals like a hawk xD. For about the same price, you could build a computer with a much more impressive cpu leveraging one of those deals.
I don't think this is a great value pc, if you are going to spend $1200 then you probably have lots of money. Another $300-400 gets you a 7800x3d and 7800xt or 7900gre.
25% more in cost gets you a LOT more than 25% in performance. That's value. Neither are budget.
How is this "value" when you can fit a 4070 ti super and AMD 7500F CPU within the same budget?
You're confusing value with performance later. Budget = most performance staying within a budget. 7700XT does not match with that.
I'm so happy I managed to get a 6800xt for 416 to finish my 7600 build
Yeah the 6800 XT is definitely better than the 7700 XT. The extra Vram is nice, though it is a bit less power efficient.
I got a 4070S open box for my R5 7600 build. If my PSU didn't die I would fit it all under $1000.
Brand new with warranty?
@@kingeling Yes, new, ASRock 6800XT Taichi
Got one for $325 second hand last year. Rocks 1080p 165 hz monitor, gonna use it for a long time.
I like that this a very flexible build. You can get extra gpu power just by stepping up to a 7800xt without a cpu bottleneck and you can also upgrade the cpu down the line to a future am5 3d cache cpu with a new GPU in a few years and keep it balanced and relevant. AMD is honestly treating gamers and pc builders pretty good all things considered.
I would personally build this exact build with a 7900gre, which has a relatively good price in my country
yeah i would avoid that 12gb card, its underwelming, go 16 FTW
if you dont mind going used for some parts you might could get a 6800xt or 6900xt and squeeze in a 7800x3d, i plan on doing something like that soon
get a better GPU and spend less on the PSU, cooler and motherboard to still stay within budget.
I'm being patient and aiming to snipe a 7800 XT on a sale hehe, my country it's pretty decent pricing then
“Spend less on a PSU”, yeah, no.
This is a great configuration Steve! I saw that you mentioned the R7-7700 and I would say that it would've been the best answer to your CPU cooling question because the $80 difference would've been wasted on an AIO while choosing the R7-7700 would immediately solve the issues that the Wraith Stealth can have. This is because the R7-7700 comes with a fantastic stock cooler in the form of the AMD Wraith Prism.
You know, the Wraith Prism is a CRIMINALLY-underrated CPU cooler and I say that from personal experience. I've been using one for about 1½ years now on my R7-5800X3D and it works great. It's also the most beautiful air cooler that I've ever seen or heard about and would integrate perfectly into any PC's RGB colour scheme. It just looks like a nuclear reactor sitting on your CPU, far better than that rather bland-looking Arctic tower cooler. I've seen the reviews and benchmarks and the Wraith Prism easily handles the all-core load of an R9-7950X when running CineBench R23.
I would agree that the gaming performance of the R7-7700 wouldn't be noticeably different than that of the R5-7600 but there would be significant productivity gains that could be realised with it. Even if that's not important to a gamer, I also have to assume that having two extra cores never hurts going forward and I would rather have 8 cores than 6 if the gaming performance isn't reduced. We have seen that the R7-5700X3D and R7-5800X3D do out-perform the R5-5600X3D in gaming so it's not like those two extra cores do nothing. At the very least, you're getting a gorgeous air cooler that is more than capable and the extra money you're spending is actually upgrading the CPU as well as the CPU cooler. That's a win-win in my book but it probably wouldn't have any significant effect in gaming (although resale value would probably be better).
The savings could also turn that RX 7700 XT into an RX 7800 XT instead of turning the R5-7600 into an R7-7700 which would have a far more dramatic impact in gaming performance but then you're still stuck with the Wraith Stealth which is why I think that the R7-7700 would be the way to go, at least initially. You and I both know that this is why AIOs are objectively a bad idea but, as you said, people still throw their money away on them for the sake of aesthetics and it's that very desire for aesthetics that makes me even more keen to recommend the Wraith Prism because it's like the best of both worlds. It's free, has great cooling performance and is stunning to look at.
In any case, this is a fantastic build and I agree on everything else that you've put in here. This is a build that many novice builders would do well to emulate. Steve, good on ya mate! 😁
I like the gaming performance section because even if I'm not interested in this exact build, it gave me a realistic estimate of how this price tier of system would perform and what settings I would expect to use and what that looks like. I was like: Ah, so this is a good, real 1440p gaming system. And extrapolate from there.
I wish the section was a bit longer with more games. But I appreciate all the hard work you were doing already, Steve!
Crazy that a 1200$ build counts as "value" today.
well if you spend less you get a much worse PC and if you spend more you get limited gains so yeah
About the same as $750 ~20 years ago I guess.
Hate to say it, but the best value is probably still the consoles.
Value does not mean that it has to be cheap. You can build a very fast gaming pc for $800 with a ryzen 5 5600 + rx 6750XT. Today is one of the best times in a long time to build a pc, prices on everything except motherboards and graphics cards have never been lower for the value you get
@@mikem2253 Of course, that's always been the case - the (basically) 6700XT-equipped consoles offer great performance for the price. But you spend the money on PCs to play PC games/play games the PC way or to do PC-specific things, which unfortunately comes at a cost.
If you live near a Micro Center in the US, they have combo deals going on where you can snag some good CPU+Mobo+RAM combos for $300 - $450 which should cut the price down quite a bit.
I got a 12900k, mobo and 32gb of DDR5 for about $400. I already had a 2060 and storage and an old case so I was basically up and running. I ended up going back a few months later and picked up a 4070 for about $450 (open box). It was about a two hour drive but worth it.
Fortunately, I live in driving distance from a Micro Center, and while I'm a bit disappointed that Nvidia only sells their reference cards at Best Buy, I did get an RTX 4090 back at release at the MSRP. Same with an AMD Ryzen 7950X. It turned into a great desktop.
😒👍 Correct, i live near Microcenter Westmont and Microcenter Chicago, the only two combo deals if your serious is the 783D or the i9, but if your really really serious just go for the horns and pickup the 7950X3D 16/32 and open her up 👊😒 bliiiiiiiiiiii 🚤......
Yes but many people don't want to come back there, because of how dirty are they
For about the same price (maybe $100 more before taxes) as the build in the video, I built a computer with a 14700k using one of those bundle deals. Ironically enough, the best time to build was between Black Friday and New Years; there were some really great SSD deals at the time as well.
Not even a year has passed and the RX 7700XT has become a "Bang For Buck" option already. The market changes FAST!
It's really not. This is just a poor combination from HUB.
@@ulamss5 According to bestvaluegpu, the 7700XT ranks 4th place in value (3DMark Score divided by Amazon price, new condition only). There are only 3 SKUs above it: 6650XT, 6750XT and 6800.
@@ulamss5 In value terms of 3DMark Score divided by Amazon price, new cards only, the 7700XT ranks in the 4th place.
(For some reason CZcams keeps hiding the comment if I say the source site)
@@ulamss5 how so? Suggest a comparable build that looks good and gets more fps.
@@lewzealand4717 $1200 for a PC is not good value, no matter how you twist the definition
I literally just build that setup for my nephew a week ago
Thats cool is the setup running well?
Lucky nephew.
🙂 for a nephew this feels alright but for an Adult with a job u need to go higher up the tier stack and open up that throttle 👊😒
@@MrSamadolfo I strongly disagree.
What are someone's "needs" for gaming enjoyment and appreciation is not for you to say:
that's entirely subjective.
What's the best bang for buck build, on the other hand, is objective:
that's just data, a set point which anyone can use in order to evaluate what's best for them,
depending on their personal taste, budget, and needs.
@@johnpetith5523 he’s loving it
This is a really awesome video! I'd love to see more benchmarks like this along with builds. Thank you so much hardware unboxed. :)
Based on those figures, the Peerless Assassin would probably have outperformed the water coolers
sure but that cooler is kinda meh looking
@@MrSamadolfo Mine is RGB even if it was about impressing someone (it's not)
It is fun to have a full-build video now and then.
And as always, thanks for all the insights and reviews and so-on over the years! The amount of info buyers now have available going into a full system build is incredible these days compared even to recent memory. And it's largely thanks to reviewers and the tech press. So, thank you folks!
Love these videos , hope you create more of these when new gen launches
Excellent video more of this please.
Really fun video! Can you do more of these? Would love all kinds of builds! I really like how you explain why you’ve chosen each component and even provide thermals/performance metrics for all options.
I just built something very similar to this...thrilled to see the convergence
Indeed they all come together very well. Well done!
Thanks for this build. Based on the recommendations für the B650 Mainboards in the past on your channel it is a beast. Greetings from Germany to Australia :)
Thats the essence of PC building for me... Doing your own research on parts and not only making the system work but also look amazing and stylish how you envisioned it.
R5 7600 and RX 6950xt here. Great combo.
Mother board?
@@ErenYeager-uy8ej AsRock x670e Steel Legend
@@keyboredgaming6894 can I go with gigabyte bs3h mb . And 6700xt
This is exactly what i was looking for today, thanks
I love your videos thanks for sharing and all the info is great so thank you
The 6800 is better deal than the 7700xt in my opinion
It absolutely is. I’m pretty sure Steve is just going with stuff that’s current-gen and is sure to remain readily available for a while. Supply of 6800s and 6800XTs has dwindled and could be gone any day at this point. I don’t know why people aren’t scrambling to get the last remaining cards out there especially with the recent suggestions that FSR is likely to finally get the “AI” treatment to close the subjective gap with DLSS. This is almost guaranteed to be back-compatible to at least 6000-series cards.
Getting harder to find.
They're pretty even in a lot of things besides streaming so if someone in the future wants to stream then the 7700xt is definitely for them otherwise, either or doesn't really matter.
That's far more expensive where i live.
Great build video, very nice looking PC.
Looks awesome!
Steve thanks for mentioning the Aussie pricing as you went along too.
Brilliant informative video, you should definitely do more of these 👍🏻
Great video Steve! I was lookin for a good case around that range and I finally have it! idfk how I managed to not find that one...
that ssd aio would actually make sense for gen 5 ssds pushing those crazy transfer speeds
system looks outstanding. I happen to use the same colour in the RGB for my build. I love the ice blue look in a system
🙂 agree, some of my builds are blue and some are red devil theme, i recently pickup a white case with ice blue Street Fighter 6 emblems
This feels almost nostalgic
cool video, you can do that from time to time at various price range, it's refreshing
thank you for using the word affordable. I am glad to see this trend way too many creators use the word cheap. That's not the correct word.
I dont disagree with the core intent behind your comment, being that 1200 bucks is not "cheap". However, i also think many people fail to consider the timeframe. Gaming is indeed a cheap hobby, even if you went for a 4000 bucks gaming pc every couple years. Not like you'll replace it every year. Most people would probably keep a new system for 3-5, or even 7+ years in some cases, depending on their priorities and usecases. If you buy a new 2000 bucks gaming pc every 5 years, that's barely a bit over 30 bucks a month. As far as hobbies are concerned, that's actually pretty darn cheap. Going out for food to a restaurant once a month will cost you more. Buying a starbucks every couple days does too. A lot of people happily spend tons of money on alcohol, nicotin, coffee, energy drinks, the 3 redundant streaming services they subscribed to, the membership for the gym and public pool they barely use, as well as the monthy payments to pay off their needlessly expensive car, which they solely got to impress others, all the while going on expensive concerts and whatnot.. just to then complain about the price to upgrade their pc every couple years lol.
Just to be clear, im not saying that's you. There will always be people who genuinely struggle paying for pretty much anything, while not throwing their money out for all kinds of other things. But it's kind of funny when those that do complain about the one purchase that probably offers them more value than any of the others combines. Few things exist in life where you can easily get thousands, if not tens of thousands, of hours of enjoyment out of for such little cost.
Great built!
I enjoy the PG Lightning. I got it with a 7800x3d bundle at microcenter, amd having all the m.2 slots, good VRM and just clean appearance is satisfying.
Thanks
9:00 For most countries you're going to want a thermalright phantom spirit at that price, but if you want to spend less then one of the other single tower thermalrights
😏👍 Mugen 6 Black Edition FTW
@@MrSamadolfo The Mugen 6 is about 30% more expensive than the phantom spirit and offers less cooling performance. The Mugen 6 isn't a a bad cooler or anything, but the phantom spirit is a much better bang for the buck cooler.
Seconded, i went for a single-tower Thermalright myself, for my budget Ryzen 7600 build. Price/performance is unbeatable in many regions, especially for AM5 cpus (certain cooler-brands have been tested to perform differently on Intel vs AMD cpus).
@@dare2liv_nlove thermalright really came in and took the 212 evos market
Great build, Steve! Keep up the great work! Only one question, were those side fans mounted as intake or exhaust? If it was set to exhaust, with no other intake fans in the build, I believe that may have a negative impact on your testing temperatures. Great day to ya, boss!
In today's video we learn the meaning of the word value, thanks Steve.
Beautiful. A big enthusiast 😂 NERDS 🙋🏽 have 27 gpu’s. Happy to be part of the community.
People seem to confuse what a value vs low end PC is.
The good value right now just doesnt lie at the lower end of things, but closer to the middle.
You can game perfectly fine on a 800 dollar system, but the 400 extra add a lot of performance.
Not a bad deal at all. I spent $1000 CAD for a Ryzen 7600x, b670 Asus board, 32gb 6000mhz ddr5, 1tb ssd, 1000w corsair power supply, and a basic coolermaster elite ATX case. Tax included. Installed my RX6750XT and have been gaming out since Xmas. There were better deals out there but I wanted something current.
exactly what i wanted to see
Nah I'll sit this one out, I don't wanna compare to the $1200 build I did in November 2022 because there's no way I'm ready to recover from that financially again.
No offense, but you need to handle your finances better if $1200 throws it out of whack. You should always have atleast twice that, preferably four times that sitting in your bank account for unexpeted things breaking. Washing machine, car, etc.
@@The_Noticer. What I mean is I don't need to be spending £1200 on incrementally upgrading a toy every 18 months. I have a kid, other hobbies, and better things to be spending that money on.
Yes I need that amount in money or available credit for emergencies, that's why I'm not spending it - so I have it available, for emergencies.
Maybe you should handle getting a read on whether your unsolicited opinion is warranted better, then you wouldn't need to say jackass phrases like "no offence".
@@InnuendoXP Hey mate, you are the one that put yourself out there. Changing up the story to save face doesn't help your case either. If you have plenty of disposable income but choose not to spend it on PC parts every cycle, congratulations, you're like everyone else. But thats not what you wrote in the OP.
@@The_Noticer. Damn I’m 15 and now I’m considering if I should save 200 more just to have in my account after I buy my pc
@@The_Noticer. "I will never financially recover from this" is a common glib hyperbolic expression in online parlance & the cost of discretionary non-essentials like gaming hardware is a non-trivial expense for most normal people on a median income with bills to pay & mouths to feed. So the idea of the prospect of the cost being repeated in a narrow window of time is enough to make most normal people wince a little - hence the hyperbole, which is emotionally, though probably not literally, relatable to many people.
You just saw an opportunity to be a judgemental sanctimonious ass & found it irresistible, and apparently are continuing to find it irresistible.
Fun video, and good recommendations. Question: what RGB software do you use?
I used a 5950x with a modest air cooler and it works great and doesn't get crazy hot. Usually floats around 65c while under load
I remember making a pc for $300-$600, Canadian. It was a cheap gaming pc.
The arctic freezer 36 is insanely good value.
The rx 6800 is going for $370 us or less, 16 gb, and faster if anyone wanted to know
Quality parts, can't go wrong with these.
thank you, please more like this video.
I have the same GSkill memory kit, using it with an Asus B650E-F Gaming mobo and a 7600X. The entire system is unstable when using the Expo2 profile but works flawlessly when the Expo profile is running. Just a tip for anybody using this RAM kit but having weird crashes while gaming.
Two things I think are worth mentioning
For the CPU you can also get the Ryzen 5 7500F in some places for less than the 7600. The 7500F cost here in Germany 158.99€ and the 7600 181.80€. This is not true in most places, so I understand that it wasn't talked about
And for cooler, the Thermalright Assassin Spirit 120 V2 and all the ones that share the design, because they tend to be cheaper than the Arctic cooler, still performs well, but may not look as good. I think there is also a birthday deal from Arctic, which is why the Arctic cooler is so cheap
I picked up the Mugen 6, its a much better looking Black Cube in a smaller package 👊😎
I don't think that's worth it, it's 22.81€ cheaper but the R5 7600 clocks slightly higher, includes a iGPU, and comes with a stock cooler and pre-applied thermal paste.
Buying a CPU cooler and some thermal paste can easily cost you more than 22.81€. Having a iGPU is also very handy, if your GPU breaks down you can still use your PC.
@@zoopa9988 I don't think a lot of people will need the iGPU, which can still be good, but I rather have a cooler and more quiet PC than the iGPU. Plus if you buy a cooler either way, which I think a lot of people will do, you would need to pay more. The clock yes that is right, but not as big of a difference, because in the end you would probably be able to just overclock it to the same performance. I also don't know why you would buy thermal paste separately instead of using the one that comes with the cooler, it rarely makes a giant difference
But yeah the iGPU could be worth it for some people, especially if they are the people troubleshooting
@@MrSamadolfo oh nice. I didn't see a review of it yet, but seems to be a nice cooler
@@cybernd6426 Do CPU coolers come with some thermal paste? Didn't know that. It does indeed seem like most people don't use the stock cooler that comes with the R5 7600, and you can indeed just overclock the R5 7500F to perform similar to the R5 7600/X version, performance between these 3 is barely noticeable, if at all. You could still sell the stock cooler that comes with the R5 7600, or keep it as a back-up cooler. But if you don't care about the iGPU, and don't want to use a stock cooler I guess the R5 7500F is a nice option.
Awesome best-value build! Most specially because this is not sponsored, so just your own best choices, precisely the best suggestions we can possibly get from HU. I will definitely revisit this video whenever I finally tackle my next build. Waiting those few weeks for those AMD announcements/releases, we'll see
You can also use the thermalright peerless assassin for the air cooler option. same price, and i think it performs a better too
That 240 AIO would drive me nuts looking at it, it resembles a fan that has stopped.
Thx guys u are the best 👍
Funny you should post this Steve, because I was currently in the process of sourcing value components for making a budget price to performance build, and if I wasn't going ITX, this is what I would have selected. Ended up going for a minis forum AR900i that has a 13900HX in it, for $759. Integrated laptop CPU. Ended up being slightly cheaper with the same 32GB of ram then a 7600 build. But baller none the less. Great work on this video!
It's worth pointing out that system has a lot of upgrade potential, PSU and board are fine for very big CPU/GPU upgrades later on. Realistically if you saved for a couple of years and got the next gen 7800X3D and whatever GPU is out at the time you'd immediately be back up and running. I don't see any other part of the system aging poorly in the next 5 years, PSU is also ATX3.0. I've done stuff like this in the past and just used the old CPU / GPU on a media centre or something.
Yep. A lot of comments are missing this part of the equation. For anyone that understands how fantastic the longevity of AM4 has proven to be, this build will be an easy platform to drop in a 9800X3D or 11800X3D when they come out, along with whatever monster graphics card your budget is able to muster, without needing to dump money on a bigger power supply all over again. It’s just a little extra cash now that will feel great five or six years from now.
I agree, I see a lot of Value in this build.
It will be very easy in a few years to upgrade this system vs someone building a "budget" build . And in the mean time they will be gaming at 1440 high quality vs budget.
@@kenshirogenjuro873 That was my thought process when I built my PC in February. 7800X3D and 7900XTX. Went with a a B650E motherboard to get the Gen 5 SSD and GPU options so I can rock a brand new build in a couple years at a greatly reduced cost.
@@benknapp3787 yep, less wasted cash, less ewaste going into landfills, less hassle installing upgrades, you just win across the board. Nice build, btw. 👍🏻
Now that i think about it, while i tried to keep that option open at first too, i dont think i ever actually upgraded an existing system. Other than replacing a dead GPU once. I always end up going for a full new build when the time comes. Then i wait until it feels outdated again.. at which point there is pretty much no point in upgrading individual components anymore anyways. Upgrading the GPU is always an option of course, but usually by the time i would want a new CPU, the socket changes, which means you have to replace the motherboard (and which that disassemble the whole thing) anyways, and potentially even need new RAM. But maybe that's just me. To be fair, i also kinda enjoy the peace of mind of knowing i have a working system until the new build actually runs, since i've had a lot of problem with faulty hardware in the past. So i guess there is that.
Good little PC
Pretty solid component choices, although for the cooler the best bang for buck air coolers right now are the Thermalright Peerless Assassin or Phantom Spirit 120 SE, which are around the same price as the arctic freezer 36, but offer vastly better cooling performance. Thermalright's liquid coolers are also pretty good and quite a bit cheaper than the liquid freezer III. I'm probably sounding like a Thermalright fan boy right now, but they are kind of killing it in the cpu cooler market right now in terms of value and the quality of their coolers is on par with more expensive models out there.
I love it when reviewers use the 65w parts. I've never used any of the high powered stuff as my needs aren't that great.
I would love to see you guys do some iTX testing. Over the last 12 years or so, every machine I've built has been smaller than the last. I don't think I'll ever build another ATX machine again and would love to see the HUB treatement on iTX boards.
I builded all white pc for nephew, 7700xt pulse with 7600x which works 5.4ghz! And it runs very silent and cooler Arctic A36rgb costed just 30 eur! Phanteks case also is very good.
A few tips for builders that want other options that are cheaper and can be better in some cases:
B650M HDV/M.2 is sometimes seen for $110, same for the PRO RS. Worth getting if below $120~$130 in my opinion.
There are some 2x16GB ram kits below $95 that are 6000CL30, check for teamgroup or g.skill models.
For air cooler, going for Peerless Assassin or Phantom Spirit is never a mistake at their ridiculously low price. If you want an AiO, Thermalright frozen edge are below $60 and perform similarly to Deepcool LS720.
For cases, check Montech Air 903 or X3 mesh, or Phanteks G360A. For a top of the line case in airflow you can check Lian Li Lancool 216, it's as good as fractal torrent but at less than half the price.
Great recommendations. To add on to this, 850W PSU's shouldn't cost more than $110 USD. There are better ATX 3.0 options than the Kolink unit, like the be quiet PP12M, ADATA Core Reactor II, and the SeaSonic Focus GX ATX 3.0.
Once you hit $120, the Vetroo GV1000 owns the value argument over pretty much any 1000+W PSU. It performs like a Vertex or RMx Shift while being quieter and cheaper than both.
Honestly you can go even cheaper than this. The 7500f is basically the same performance in most cases and a fair bit cheaper from AliExpress. If it's just for gaming then you can go for an A620 board. Even the most budget MSI model won't affect performance until you look at the 7900x, and even then you can just enable ECO mode. As for ddr5, cheap 4800mhz stuff will usually OC, and a decent quality 650w PSU is enough especially if you plan to undervolt your GPU. With all the savings you can move up to a 7900GRE and improve frame rates drastically
If you dont care about RGB on your ram, Klevv Bolt V is a steal for their price and guaranteed Hynix Die for OC. I got 6800mhz version with Hynix A-die for just $115, hard to beat that kit at that price
@@season161Shhhh don't tell them, you're gonna make it more expensive 🤣
Thanks to Microcenter's fantastic pricing, I was able to help a friend recently build a PC for ~$1,400 with a 7800x3d (their AMD bundle) and a 4070 Super. The performance uplift easily justifies a little more spending if you have a Microcenter in your area.
2TB SSD, 850w Gold PSU and only thing we bought online was a cooler, since they didn't have a great selection of the low priced high quality air coolers. ($35 Peerless Assassin)
Hearing you guys talk about the ASRock MoBo makes me feel good since that was the exact MoBo I chose to go with for my recent build. Went with a 7600X CPU for now since it was on a great sale and came with 32GB of RAM free, but plan on upgrading to a x800X3D some time down the line on a future gen CPU that still uses AM5. Still needing to get a new GPU as I'm still using my 1070, but waiting on prices to drop or a good sale. Really want to grab an AMD GPU since they seem to be better value atm, but I "need" NVENC for streaming as I've not seen any real good mentioned for AMD in that regard.
You should do some more of those kind of vids guys 🤩🙏🏼
the LFIII was crazy at launch, 50 quid sterling. had bought LFII 360 for 62 a few months earlier 😢😂
I usually manage to fit in a RX 7800 XT for $1200 w/ the following picks. Depends on daily prices though.
Ryzen 5 7600
Thermalright Phantom Spirit
Asrock B650 (usually with WIFI)
G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 32 GB (6000 or 6400 price dependent)
TEAMGROUP MP44 2 TB
RX 7800 XT (Powercolor or Sapphire)
Phanteks XT PRO ULTRA
be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 750
I don't quite get why it needs 850W power supply. 700W seems plenty to me even with an upgrade in mind.
🙂 actually a 650W Bronze from Tier C on the PSU Tier List, they go for about $60
Both, the CPU and the GPU combined will rarely exceed 300 W. Even with 100% reserve, a good 600 W PSU should do the work flawlessly.
Steve was definitely thinking in terms of a few extra bucks here or there to max out longevity, and a good PSU can easily carry you for 10, even 20 years or more. Having enough power means you don’t have to replace it the next time or four you decide to upgrade. Which in turn means more money for a bigger GPU etc.
I have an 850W Silverstone PSU that’s 15 years old powering a 5800X3D and 6900XT. I have every expectation I’ll still be using it 5 or more years from now.
the most important difference between the 2 mainboards: the asrock b650 pg lightning has three m.2 slots, while the msi has two. so if you want to upgrade your storage later on, better get the asrock.
You can expand storage very easily using PCIe slots as well.
Not having to use PCIe adapters for storage is a plus though - they may cause boot issues/longer boot times, and can interfere with a vertically mounted GPU.
@@Hardwareunboxed yes but still its worth a comment, a pcie adapter still costs like 15$ and if you want to have a clean build, it doesnt really look nice
sure, but costs extra, and takes up slot (as well as space for gpu).@@Hardwareunboxed
@@Lishtenbird are you preferring the cards over just using SATA drives for extra storage?
I’m still on am4 with a ryzen 7 5700 XT x570 ASRock motherboard, Corsair ram 32gb and 6800 XT asrock also.
you'll be good for many years.
You say “still” as if you think it’s old. The 6800XT is still a really stout card and will continue to be for a good few years. It’s actually stronger and will carry you longer than the 7700XT Steve chose for today’s build. I’m seriously jealous of anyone that landed a 6800XT at MSRP when it came out. Those people have been riding high for a few years and can expect to go a few more.
But some people think that 6800 XT is old and wants the news one
@@frandingofd4059 yeah but the point is you sure don’t need to. Consider it holds up okay against the 4070 which IMO is far and away Nvidia’s most respectable card this generation. You can always upgrade if you just feel like it, but I’d wait until after AMD releases the next FSR, as that’s rumored to finally implement AI to bring it to parity with DLSS. Soak in that “fine wine” effect.
Built the same exact PC for a friend, 1180$ with a RX6800 😊
Please make video about understanding VRMs.
Nice, I just finished off my 7600x build with a 7800xt(gigabyte, yes its loud)a gigabyte B650 DS3H,Fractal designs case and coolers,Gigabyte G32QC-A QHD, hopefully i get years of good gaming from it.
CZcams doing bullshit again... I'm fully subscribed but it hasn't showed me a hardware unboxed video for weeks on my feed, even my subscription feed...
Moved over to Louis Rossmann a Greyjay app today and was shocked how much I've missed..
Keep up the great work Steve and Tim
Just wanted to put a comment so you guys know this kind of stuff is happening and affecting your viewership.
Yeah this seems to be something you just have to live with on YT.
A no-sponsor-all-AMD pc. I like it!
At this point it's surprising there aren't more videos like this. For gaming, you get so much more for your money going with all AMD, especially now that they've really started to do well with FSR and AFMF.
@@benknapp3787 You lost me at FSR, but besides that I agree. 👍
@@rube9169 FSR is supposed to get better soon.
@rube9169 FSR has shown to have slightly worse image quality but a lot of the time offers a bigger improvement in framerate than DLSS. AMD is killing it right now.
6 months after last black Friday and the new-build value pc has barely changed at all. Built a 7600x/6800xt/32gb@6000/750w/1tb Gen 4 machine in jonsbo d31 for a friend and it came out to just about $1200.
Ryzen 5 7600x $170 used
DDR5 G.SKILL RAM 6000 $85 New
B650 aorus elite ax $122 like new open box
RX 7700xt sapphire nitro+ $362 like new
Case $60
M.2 SSD 1TB $50
CPU Cooler $25 on sale
TOTAL $874
Excellent choice!
Need PSU.
You forgot the PSU
1gb is too small for games.
@@MrScankoDepends on what you play. I have 12 games installed and still have 300GB or so on my 1TB drive. I don't leave games installed after I beat them though.
Had a kolink 1000watt.. it was rated for 850w on the 12v rail.. it went bang very quickly with a single gtx480.
Also had a kolink observatory case, cheap fans with proprietary controller pushed up against glass with metal so thin you can read through it.
They're not much better than CIT or other poor (value) brands.
Great for 1080p gameing
Yep, thats the combo I want, 7600 + 7700xt.
Its not the cheapest. Its not the greatest. But in terms of keeping you up for games for at least 5-6 years, it does the job. Not to mention that you WILL be able to upgrade easily with am5 and that chonky psu.
I feel like either stretching for the 7800XT, or arguably better going for a 6800(xt) at a (hopefully) cheaper price will be the better move for longevity, because they have more VRAM
Can this same build be used for streaming as well ? if no what upgrade do i need here ?
You are a Godsend Steve. We need more power supply reviews, case reviews, RAM reviews. There is just so much to choose from.
Thank you for the video! So if I don't use expo or xmp and any kind of overclocking the AM5 platform is as stable as the Intel 12th gen? I really want to go with AMD and I can take a few % performance hit, if it means it will be very stable.
holy, it's insane that this is what value is now, at least its am5 so you got an upgrade path
Got the 7600xt with 7600x last week.
Solid build!! Good value for money. Shame Microcenter is inaccessible to most people. They have an absolutely amazing bundle deal going right now. R7 7700X + MSI B650 Gaming X Wifi + 32GB G.Skill Flare X 6000-CL32 for $379. Absolutely nuts compared to the rest of the market, and makes for an excellent start.
I'm so glad I live near one. (It was formerly a Circuit City. Remember those?) Now if Nvidia actually sold reference cards to Micro Center instead of just Best Buy...
@@cameronbosch1213 😏 you remember Fry's
Which better value power supply would you recommend for i5 11400f and rx 7800xt? I looked up gigabyte UD750 Gold but I'm not sure what the required wattage should be.
Thanks in advanced and love your videos.
Man you guys read my mind or what..👍👍👍
Nice to see the use of Arctic´s cooling products.. They outperform all other AIO´s in temps and prices
Hello from halfway round the world.. You guys make great content. Keep it going thank you!!
Thanks for the build! Would the GPU choice stay the same for 1440p ultrawide?
🙂 no, you want 16 minimum but for a little more money look at the cards with 18 20 22 24 video memory
7800xt is very solid. So 7900gre would be the choice
Can we get a comparison-style video about XeSS 1.3? Curious to see how it compares to current FSR and DLSS (unless you're waiting for FSR 3.1 to do the video).
I'd be curious to see a test of these AM5 motherboard to see how well some of them implement ECC where possible.
I'm more interested in maximizing stability at the cost of a little bit of performance personally, and have been trying to research how I could get a (proper) ECC setup out of the Ryzen platform, I'm told it's possible but support is patchy.
Would be an interesting topic to explore, and I haven't seen many do so.
This is like an Atomic MPC recommended build list.
Shame a lot of people missed arctics aio sale, got a 420mm rgb lf3 for like $80 during their anniversary sale.
Could we get a temp comparison between kryo sheet and Liquid Metal I haven’t found any reviews that have temp comparisons
should be similar 🙂
I’d like to see this too but it’s a little sideways of HUBs usual content. Hopefully Gamer’s Nexus may be kind enough to oblige.
These types of videos are really helpful because, if I have $1000 to spend, I can compare my build to yours and see what I'm gaining/losing in $200.