The Battleship That Doesn't Require Skills! || EVE Online
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- čas přidán 17. 05. 2023
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C3 ratting is not the exclusive realm of Tech 3 Strategic Cruisers!
In this video, I show how the Praxis makes an excellent ship for this content!
[Praxis, C3 Shield Tank]
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
'Dyad' Co-Processor I
C3-A 'Hivaa Saitsuo' Ballistic Control System
Crosslink Compact Ballistic Control System
X-Large Shield Booster II
Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Copasetic Compact Shield Boost Amplifier
Eutectic Compact Cap Recharger
Eutectic Compact Cap Recharger
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
[Empty High slot]
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Core Defense Operational Solidifier I
Large Core Defense Operational Solidifier I
Caldari Navy Wasp x6
Hornet II x5
Vespa II x5
Nova Fury Cruise Missile x4500
Nova Precision Cruise Missile x2500
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tweaked your fit. no drone bonus, but cap stable and a bit cheaper.
[Praxis, youtube]
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Mark I Compact Capacitor Flux Coil
Mark I Compact Capacitor Flux Coil
Mark I Compact Capacitor Flux Coil
Co-Processor II
Crosslink Compact Ballistic Control System
Crosslink Compact Ballistic Control System
X-Large Clarity Ward Enduring Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
Large Compact Pb-Acid Cap Battery
Eutectic Compact Cap Recharger
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
[Empty High slot]
Large Core Defense Operational Solidifier II
Large Core Defense Operational Solidifier I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
Nice!!
The best part about flying the Praxis is you never lose track of the time.
😂
8:31 As far as the fitting goes, I've always felt that one way to take advantage of having lots of available powergrid in your fitting space while wanting to achieve capacitor stability is to fit some cap batteries to your ship, and when possible fitting an oversized cap battery. For ships that can afford the powergrid in the fitting, cap batteries give you more overall capacitor as well as improve your ship's recharge rate for cap stability (sometimes even more than a cap recharger). And it's not irrelevant that a cap battery protecting against energy neutralizers will give you an extra layer of protection if a pilot or a small gang try to hunt you down and take you out.
A good point, and certainly the fit is a basic starting point - modify it to suit your needs and good luck!!
I really love your videos, but you should know , again, that the drone dps is added to the hardpoints. Your overall DPS is 763. Please, try to remove the drones or your hardpoints and look at your DPS. This is the only thing you should fix in your videos.
Really nice work and thanks for bringing life to EVE. :D
Yup, I learned this sadly after recording a whole bunch of videos where I'd already made the mistake...
@@captainbenzie then I'm sorry for writing about it two times 😬. Keep up with your work, it's amazing. :))
great video. when me and a friend started using the praxis wile ago people thougth we was mad lol, but this is a surpricingly good and cheap ship. im not using this in WHs, but running the highest lvl null sec normal combat sites with no issues at all, and it gives me rougly 90-100 mill an hour. with the fit im using, i do auto targeting missiles since im multiboxing 3 of them, but if you only have 1, you can easily swap those out for proper t2 launchers and missiles to get even higher dps. with this fit we talking rougly 400 mill price tag, it can do about 850 dps, have 57k passive tank, and rougly 800 dps active rep, and it is cap stable. 60% drone damage, and 40% missile dmg. what usually happends are drones goes after bigger targets, wile the missiles start shoot the pesky frigates. im not sure i know about any other battleships in the game that can give you 1k dps, and this amount of tank for up to 400-430mill
[Praxis, *Simulated Praxis Fitting]
Damage Control II
Co-Processor II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Dread Guristas X-Large Shield Booster
Republic Fleet Large Cap Battery
Republic Fleet Large Cap Battery
Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
'Arbalest' Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher I
'Arbalest' Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher I
'Arbalest' Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher I
'Arbalest' Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher I
'Arbalest' Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher I
'Arbalest' Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher I
Large Core Defense Capacitor Safeguard II
Large Core Defense Capacitor Safeguard II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
Praetor II x9
Mjolnir Auto-Targeting Heavy Missile I x8020
Very nice, thank you!!
Some of us REALLY need a drone health alert 😅
Haha yep! 😅
I never thought that the Praxis could as useful as this ! And it's cheap compared to other ships. Thanks for this video.
Yup! It's a great ship!
Staying aligned is much safer than being stationary. Same moment you see someone on dscan you can jsut warp out. This way you can only get ganked by not paying attention and find yourself in a bubble. Staying stationary on the other hand will render you just sitting duck.
Argument that you keep flying away from sleepers is invalid - cruise missiles have very long range. That being said i tend to use Raven instead of Praxis.
Anyways, thx for the video! Fly safe o7
Great tips! 🚀
I am a new fish. Just yesterday, I drove a Praxis into C2WH and was killed by a group of people who suddenly appeared. This has consumed all my assets for me. The wormhole is extremely unfriendly to newcomers, and there are too many people inside who fight for no reason.😭😭😭😭😭
D-Scan is your friend. They don't appear from nowhere, you just have to be watching like a hawk and preferably with friends around you to help too.
It's also not for no reason. Wormholes are dangerous and everyone must be treated like a threat. All part and parcel of it. Are you part of a wormhole corp?
Learning the hard way how this game works. Don’t invest all your money and go into the most dangerous space in the game with no knowledge other than that you can kill the npcs. He mentions the dangers many times in the video and it happens more often than not that people will go after you.
Yup, burning away all your assets in one ship and losing it is a quick way to hate the game and never touch it again xD EVE has sooo much to offer, fly what you can afford to lose, have fun, and soon those shiny expensive ships will be more approachable ;)
I tested the fit at max power grid management or power skill, you can run xl shield booster at cap stable.
Nice! I wanted to keep the fit fairly cheap and not TOO skill intensive though!
The Praxis is an incredible PVE ship in general. It only really has one flaw, its by far the slowest battleship with a lower top speed than some capitals. But for wormhole sites and most PVE, speed is pretty irrelevant
Exactly this, great ship!!
Just rocked two remote cap transfer praxis into a c3 and it absolutely crushed it. You can get 800+ dps on both ships and the cap is really good without all those low slots and mid slots filled with cap mods, you just stop cap transferring from the ship that is getting targeted/neuted if your cap gets low. Great cheap alternative to remote rep domis or t3cs. Only 500 mil total for both ships and dang do they align fast.
Also using sentry drones on both and switching to lights to take out frigates.
Nice!
Could you share the fit?
TL;DR - Modified fit based on my skills
Swapped to Rapid Heavies, swapped to x-large clarity booster, double copasetic amps, dropped CPU coprocessor, added additional missile/drone BCU thingy.
810dps(2925 volley), 754.8ehps, 50.9km missile range, 54km drone range
[^^ according to PYFA ^^]
{low heavy missile - no bs - 4s where I should have 5s that affect CPU}
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I dont have Heavy, Heavy Assault, or Cruise Missiles trained beyond III currently so I had to adjust a couple things. it does "require" an implant, but its a 1% implant and fairly cheap. Also, I think I have a few skills to finish that are iv and if they were v I wouldn't have this issue... not knowledgable enough right now to tell you which ones they are XD
Still not sure when to use it for the first time yet, just got it all fitted out and parked in a WH station for when I do decide to tho!
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[Praxis, +C3 Shield Tank(modified)]
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
C3-A 'Hivaa Saitsuo' Ballistic Control System
C3-A 'Hivaa Saitsuo' Ballistic Control System
Crosslink Compact Ballistic Control System
X-Large Clarity Ward Enduring Shield Booster
Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
Copasetic Compact Shield Boost Amplifier
Copasetic Compact Shield Boost Amplifier
Eutectic Compact Cap Recharger
Eutectic Compact Cap Recharger
'Arbalest' Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher I
'Arbalest' Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher I
'Arbalest' Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher I
'Arbalest' Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher I
'Arbalest' Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher I
'Arbalest' Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher I
Core Probe Launcher I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Core Defense Operational Solidifier I
Large Core Defense Operational Solidifier I
Hornet II x5
Vespa II x5
Caldari Navy Wasp x4
Zainou 'Gypsy' CPU Management EE-601
Scourge Heavy Missile x10288
Core Scanner Probe I x16
Solid fit! I'll happily join you in taking it for a spin!
i love the triple rep' bait praxis:
[Praxis, Bait]
Large Armor Repairer II
Multispectrum Energized Membrane II
Ballistic Control System II
Large Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste x64
Reactive Armor Hardener
Damage Control II
Large Armor Repairer II
Heavy F-RX Compact Capacitor Booster, Navy Cap Booster 3200
Warp Disruptor II
Warp Scrambler II
100MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
Large Micro Jump Drive
Stasis Webifier II
Heavy Stasis Grappler II
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Missile x17
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Missile x17
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Missile x17
Small Ghoul Compact Energy Nosferatu
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Missile x17
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Missile x17
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Missile x17
Large Processor Overclocking Unit I
Large Processor Overclocking Unit I
Large Nanobot Accelerator I
DRONES x5
Haha nice!!
What is the tank on that, I have a triple rep that does 3800 ehp/sec tank for however long you have cap boosters
Puts out about 800 dps with integrated drones
Imo the prettiest ship in eve.
Good video
Thanks 😆
This is my cap stable 895.6DPS + 357.2DPS drone damage Praxis, can probably optimise but haven't flown it in 4 years. Works great. If you turn off the AB you can overheat the shield booster and stay cap stable, too. Volley damage is listed as 2035HP.
Rigs: 2x Large Capacitor Control Circuit II, 1 Large Warhead Flare Catalyst I
High slots: 6x Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II (Ammo: Scourge Fury Heavy Missile)
Mid slots: Dread Guristas X-Large Shield Booster, Republic Fleet Large Cap Battery, 3x Multispectrum Shield Hardener II, Stalwart Restrained Shield Boost Amplifier, 100MN Afterburner II
Low slots: 4x Capacitor Flux Coil II, 2x Drone Damage Amplifier II, 'Dyad' Co-Processor I.
Very nice!
Happy you think it’s cheap haha. I just got a praxis. Only have 35mill. So not cheap for me. And I’m armour laser will will be as soon as i can but some weapons and a ship to use them. So i got the skills no ship atm. Ty for the video.
Cheap compared to other battleships or even C3 runners - my Tengu costs 750m!! 😂
Something aspirational to work towards, and lasers might work! It'll have capacitor issues, I imagine so that will need to be taken into account!
I used to run Praxis for c3 for ages. was very good. ended up blinging it up to a bil lol.. but tech 2 its maybe 30% worse than perhaps a megathron. Its underestimated ship
It's an excellent ship and so cheap!!
You can use drones to recharge your shields or an alt via multibox to boost your cap. Just a thought. Armor tank might be better for this ship.
You cannot use Logi Drones on yourself.
@@captainbenzie This is why I have a nicely skilled alt. Hehe.
you might have to try sentinel drones with this sitting still ships! btw love your videos ✌
Good idea!
Does lesser damage ;)
Just a heads up: Dscanning is a lot more effective when you use the full 14au range. Other than that great video.
Haha yeah I know. Pretty sure I say that in the combat demonstration too 😂
awesome content i love c3 too!!!!
Excellent!
me at the beginning of the video, "Bold move lets see if it pays out for him" lol
Lmao, enjoy!!
Lmao, enjoy!!
i wouldve loved if you showed active shield regen benzie
So should eve echoes shift it logo to a praxis since they too are always out of focus?
Jokes aside seems like a great ship for new players
Epic comment 😂
Captain benzie i was thinking about trying wormhole combat sites but i see some fits that dont include a cloak or a probe scanner, both of which i thought were mandatory for wormhole, i was just curious what would happen if someone is trying to hunt you down, do you keep warping around from point to point until they give up since you dont have a cloak? & i can imagine a scanario where someone is hunting you but the wormhole you came from is closed but you dont have a probe scanner equipped to scan a new exit to run away, im just cuious whats your general strategy concerning this, sorry for long comment 🍺
This is based on the concept of having friends, like a wormhole corp, nearby
@@captainbenzie ok I see, thanks bro👍
Do you think this fit and an alpha charector will be able to run Null sec rally points? I just got my praxis from the rewards and fit it up right away!
If it can run C3s, then Nullsec Anomalies should be doable. Rally Points directly, I don't know. Check EVE Survival (or Google the full anomaly name) and check incoming damage against the tank etc.
2 questions on the Praxis: 1 - isn't this commonly used for WH rolling? Can we drop the mods off this, leave the rigs, & refit for that role? 2 - any data on using this ship for C4 sites?
Yes, I did a video on wormhole rolling that showcases the fit used.
As for C4s, they're basically for groups of C3 runners due to the spawn ranges etc. Don't try and solo C4 sites - except maybe the Integrated Terminus. They have super long spawn ranges and will overpower most C3 running ships.
@@captainbenzie Great! Thank you for the warning! You've definitely saved me from losing a ship.
And more: which events I can focus to earn isk? And your advice is to grind that isk to buy the ships or build them?
Buy them unless you want to go industry. Don't try and spread your SP too wide early. Do the Career Agents (all of them), then look into the AIR Career Program. I have a playlist for that on my main page.
Definitely come join our Discord and maybe even our corp!
if you been keeping up with event rewards, you should just been given a free praxsis for each omega account you got
Maybe I'll, Benzie... Let me set up my new account later... How can I keep in touch with you at EO?
Thank you - Also any interest in discussing Hot Salvage as a thing?
For sure! To clarify, you mean salvage during someone else's combat?
Caldari Wardens with 2 drone link in high slot = 104ish range, sit back and relax. She is a slow boat though.
I just personally don't like Sentries 😅
I just personally don't like Sentries 😅
@@captainbenzie They must be watched & no drift away or you cannot recall them.
I dont know much about the actual faction ship trees in Eve Online but i do know that a couple ship trees are locked behind Omega such as the Triglavian ship tree. Is the Praxis locked behind that as well?
No. The praxis can be used as an alpha free to play account. Everyone can use it
Nope, it's open to anyone!
That's awesome!!
as a alpha i needed to tweak some of the module ended up whit a little less dps but cap stable whit a little more shield each cycle around 372mil total build
Awesome, glad it's working for you
and in the frigate bay i added the nasty pvp fitted heron lol
also i have implants Mid-grade Crystal slot 1 to 5 and EO-603 , MB-702 , GP-803 , LM-903 , RL-1002 slot 6 to 10
there might be better choice but its what i have for now
Crosslink Compact Ballistic Control System
C3-A 'Hivaa Saitsuo' Ballistic Control System
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
X-Large Clarity Ward Enduring Shield Booster
Imperial Navy Cap Recharger
Imperial Navy Cap Recharger
Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
Copasetic Compact Shield Boost Amplifier
Copasetic Compact Shield Boost Amplifier
Core Probe Launcher I
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I
Large Core Defense Operational Solidifier I
Large Core Defense Operational Solidifier I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
PSA: I know Benzie knows this now, but total DPS is only 760ish, not 1000.
Also, (talking to you now Benzie) I'm wondering if you'd do better to just run a large shield booster instead of the X-large. If you're not running the booster all the time, a large one would be more cap efficient and might give you room to upsize other things with spare cpu.
I did consider just using a Large on full cycle but the tank isn't sufficient on Outposts, you're likely to hit armour. The X-L temporarily running will tank it all until you've reduced incoming DPS and then you can let your cap recharge.
before, when I was a noob, when I get a praxis in hypernet with 800k in my first time playing, I thought Praxis is too expensive to lose in ratting, until I saw the price of other battleships.......
Yup. Fun thing is that eventually that starts to look like a very cheap ship 😂
Hi, Benzie! I'm willing to go back playing Eve online with a new account, from zero... Which path you recommend me to make isk fast and which ships can do that faster? I'm not bound to any of the factions. 😊
i recommend caldari light missile on corax and run tier 0 abyssals, if you are willing to omega, rocket hawk will blitz t2 abyss good, they can all be done in highsec. after that, you can upgrade to cerberus and run t4-5 or if alpha, gila t3-4 will do
Awesome! Make sure to use my referral link for 1m free SP!
As stated, Abyssals and missiles/drones are a great way to go and spread into multiple things! For big money, I like wormholes, but Abyssals are also awesome!
Awesome! Make sure to use my referral link for 1m free SP!
As stated, Abyssals and missiles/drones are a great way to go and spread into multiple things! For big money, I like wormholes, but Abyssals are also awesome!
What if we add a warpcore stabilizer for the case someone cloaked pin you?
My concern is that you're sacrificing something to get that, and a Stabilizer won't stop a scram if they're close enough to use one, let alone a faction level Disruptor. It'll only work if they have a BASIC disruptor.
I fly a Praxis and Gnosis but never did WH in it just lvl 4 security missions
Gnosis is another ship I want to cover, but the Praxis is just really good for C3s!! Probably the cheapest ship that can solo all of the sites.
@@captainbenzie I have soloed in a Purifier with bombs
Also the DPS calculator does not work with missiles. I have 6 cruise with target painter at 100km range. According to EVE my DPS is 297. It's not. I burst damage for 4k per volley.
Go in video options and turn off DOF ( depth of field). Is a stupid option anyway because it makes the ships look smaller.
I'll try it
To what level should I train the drone specialization skills?
Also thank god ive been training heavy missile 5 to use on the drake
No real need to go too high since they're not a main damage source.
With rapid heavy’s even without tech 2 you’re pushing 950-1000 dps with the heavy drones
I am not sure whether this fit will work with C3 data or relic sites :) Maybe some more expensive version?
C3 Relic and Data sites (Forgotten and Unsecured) are almost on par with C4 combats. It can run them, you just need to be careful and know your target priorities.
Back when I still played EVE I used the Praxis for a while, but I found it a bit boring and even worse I am somewhat impatient therfore I never could get used to its slow speed compared to my beloved Minmatar Typhoon. Still a good ship and a somewhat cheap hull I think.
It is, yes! I couldn't get the Typhoon working in C3s sadly, but still trying! I love that ship!
The amusing thing about this ship is: if not counting modules, this SoCT battleship us even cheaper than its new released frigate XD
Lmao
i am cap stable with this fit :p
Awesome!
Wouldn’t rapid heavy’s be better because of application, cap might be an issue with that though
With not being cap stable how are you dealing with neuts from the sites ???
You're cap stable without everything running, so you cycle as needed, and you have the DPS to clear neuts to reduce the neutralisation and DPS to a manageable point
Could drop a Salvager in the high slot and take an MTU, no?
There's an MTU already in with this, as C3 ratting without one is awful, but honestly, sitting in site for ages afterwards and salvaging in a Praxis is a surefire way to get popped.
What I do is drop MTU, bookmark it, complete site and move on, scooping the MTU but keeping bookmarks. Then, after multiple sites, I dock up and swap to a dedicated Salvage ship like the Thrasher shown in my recent Salvage video. Much safer and quicker!
Is this ship possible to use as a f2p player? Haven't played EvE in years but would like to get back to it. Thank you in advance for the answer
Yes it's available to Alpha.
It's the same video setting that makes the rest of the ship bay look blurry, depth of field.
I've got one of these and I don't know how the hell that happened
Possibly part of Capsuleer Day. You get one in the login rewards
Oy its not the the ship that requires no skill its the gamers equivalent of Legos. Its the jeep of eve. Dont like that door? Two bolts.
Pretty much haha 😂
its a bit contradictory to praise how little skills you need and then fit a ship that basically so tight on fit you need a lot of stuff maxed out to even cram it in.
on your next vid of the kind maybe give two fits a im playing eve for 10y fit and a fit that someone a few months old could realistically fit not only afford.
This fit is based on 3m of SP. Also, at no point do I say it's a "Low SP Fit". It's a SHIP that doesn't require SPECIFIC weapon skills, was the point
I dont get it, this isnt stable, this does very little dmg and is not that tanky. It has to warp out on every site that has 2 battleships.
It's not ideal, but it's cheap and low skills
no skills required... this fit is 2 and half month training for me 😒
Doesn't require battleship skills, and you can always drop the Cruise Missiles to Arbalests for a shorter training since that cuts off Cruise Missiles V which is 24d alone.
@@captainbenzie I know I am just messing lol. I got this ship as a reward so may try eventually... but I am all in training skills for Gila rn!
@@drawmaster77 reward for what?
@@xlr890degrees69 anniversary event