Nice video, I agree that the op1w 4k will be a banger. Endgame Gear is so close to achieve the best claw grip formula because the shape, kalih switches, quality, price and features are already there. They only need good firmware and ideally a bit lighter design. Btw, did you try any ergo mouse for claw grip?
Yeah the value of the op1w 4k is going to be insane! In terms of small ergo I've claw gripped the Xlite V2 Mini from Pulsar and that was a good shape for it. Then with the Deathadder V3 Pro and EC1-CW I have a weird palm/claw hybrid that works for me, but I find myself steering clear of ergos for claw now. I feel like I have more free wrist movement with a symmetrical mouse or an asymmetrical like an NP-01/s.
Thanks, this is very helpful opinion/info because I wanted to try Asus rog keris II ace due to lower price now. But if you say symmetrical mouse works better for claw then I guess waiting for op1w 4k is better option.
great video, different way to effectively review and recommend mice if youre someone like me who understands what you look for with my similar grip type and details i look for when trying a new mouse. subbed
haa lucky you with G Wolves. I have to agree, the HTS+ 4k shape is absolutely goated for aggresive claw grip. My copy unfortunately have sensor issues, so had to stop using it. Sad, but still wasn't the best for my 17x10 hands. Right now I'm locked in with my Lamzu Maya, but looking forward to the OP1 4k. Interested as well in the Vaxee XE-S, but I have a feeling that the OP1 is going to be best for my hand size, and I do not want to spend more money on mice anymore hahaha (might get both in the end fk it). Good video!
Thank you! The OP1 scratches way more itches than the XE-S for hand size and grip style. I think the OP1W 4K is going to be insane value for money! The Lamzu Maya Max is looking interesting too.
I have op18k and XE-S, I think op1 shape is better but clicks and scroll wheel feels are kinda meh for me. XE-S I’m having a hard time to grip it and everything else is great! I stopped using op18k because the mouse didn’t really make me perform “better” but once I hopped back to XE-S and Outset AX I found significant improvement to my cs2 gameplay. My hand size is 16.5x10 & aggressive claw grip style
I too, mained the hts plus for fps games and used Hati M wired for rts games. But recently, I brought the hyperx pulsefire haste 2 mini and the shape is even more amazing. You should give it a try. It fits so nice and is the most comfortable mouse I ever used. Only con was the cheap grip tape it came with. Everything else is quite decent.
I’ve been having a look for the haste 2 mini but it’s never on the UK Amazon. As soon as it shows up I’ll get it and give it a whirl. Thanks for the suggestion 😁
Had the G303SE before, interesting mouse! Funnily enough I’m doing a video on it and mice with specific grip requirements. Cheers for the recommendations 😁
The OP1 has more of a wedge shape with the hump sat further back, so I get more contact under where my knuckles are and it’s not as wide as the XE-S. It feels more like a scalpel than a knife if that makes sense. The thinner front and widening out to the back also feels more comfortable to me, just more natural.
Acabo de adquirir el Sora V2, el Maya era aburrido y demasiado genérico. El U2 es demasiado restrictivo para mí. El Atlantis tiene una forma mejor para mí. El Beast X es más para la punta de los dedos a menos que tengas manos pequeñas y el Max no lo usaría para ese agarre.
Depends what you’re looking for as they’re wildly different mice. A good mid point between the two looks to be the Lamzu Maya X 8K, should be out sometime next month. 1000% worth a look!
Some people have an addiction to cutting and biting -or even eating- their nails untill it's very short. I personally really dislike it because when I see the nails like that, I get extremely uncomfortable.
@@Spectrulight I get the same way, I hate when I accidentally cut mine too short, or break it short somehow. His nails are literally half the length of mine, and mine are short ...
They’re all Chinese mice technically 😂 G-wolves is definitely Chinese! Aha I should do a run down of budget Chinese mice, I’ve been eyeing the OGM cloud for a while.
Cuz Chinese mice are a$$ and have very bad RF firmwares and wireless tech and don’t have 8khz pull rake like and all weigh so much compared to USA made Finalmouse ULX 29g 8khz pull rate and lowest click latency on any wireless mouse to date right behind the Endgame Gear OP18k and with very light spammable trinkets binder ASMR guano blue shell pink dot switches then we got Vaxee with their impecable wireless performance making their mice feel like wired mice while being wireless and have such low wireless latency and click performance with such silt smooth no acceleration no nothing wireless performance with 4khz pull rate and always innovating with lower weight and light spammable huano blue shell black dot clicks. Then we got Zowie king of shapes with no pain that suit everyone with every hand size and has the best built quality of any mice to date that’s built like a tank and will never break or deform shape and has great 0 interference with any wireless devices with their big antenna receiver and feels buttery smooth to use and no motion delays no click latency and very low latency at esports lan tournaments. So point is USA makes the best mice on the market over Chinese mice and Chinese mice have no room to speak and compete cuz they are so a$$ and there’s so many better options to pick from that are way better performance, weight, shape, and size over any other Chinese mice on the market!
@@aidanpremium9870 dude, you have NO idea what you are talking about. What nonsense. There are tons of Chinese mice that are just as good or better than these mice are, and they almost all offer at least 4k polling and most are offering 8k polling as well. The latest mice are offering 3950 sensors as well. Maybe learn what you are talking about opening your yap
Nice video, I agree that the op1w 4k will be a banger. Endgame Gear is so close to achieve the best claw grip formula because the shape, kalih switches, quality, price and features are already there. They only need good firmware and ideally a bit lighter design.
Btw, did you try any ergo mouse for claw grip?
Yeah the value of the op1w 4k is going to be insane!
In terms of small ergo I've claw gripped the Xlite V2 Mini from Pulsar and that was a good shape for it. Then with the Deathadder V3 Pro and EC1-CW I have a weird palm/claw hybrid that works for me, but I find myself steering clear of ergos for claw now. I feel like I have more free wrist movement with a symmetrical mouse or an asymmetrical like an NP-01/s.
Thanks, this is very helpful opinion/info because I wanted to try Asus rog keris II ace due to lower price now. But if you say symmetrical mouse works better for claw then I guess waiting for op1w 4k is better option.
great video, different way to effectively review and recommend mice if youre someone like me who understands what you look for with my similar grip type and details i look for when trying a new mouse. subbed
Thank you! Very much appreciated!
haa lucky you with G Wolves. I have to agree, the HTS+ 4k shape is absolutely goated for aggresive claw grip. My copy unfortunately have sensor issues, so had to stop using it. Sad, but still wasn't the best for my 17x10 hands. Right now I'm locked in with my Lamzu Maya, but looking forward to the OP1 4k. Interested as well in the Vaxee XE-S, but I have a feeling that the OP1 is going to be best for my hand size, and I do not want to spend more money on mice anymore hahaha (might get both in the end fk it). Good video!
Thank you! The OP1 scratches way more itches than the XE-S for hand size and grip style. I think the OP1W 4K is going to be insane value for money!
The Lamzu Maya Max is looking interesting too.
I have op18k and XE-S, I think op1 shape is better but clicks and scroll wheel feels are kinda meh for me. XE-S I’m having a hard time to grip it and everything else is great! I stopped using op18k because the mouse didn’t really make me perform “better” but once I hopped back to XE-S and Outset AX I found significant improvement to my cs2 gameplay. My hand size is 16.5x10 & aggressive claw grip style
If you want to go for “safer” shape I highly recommend Vancer’s thrash
I too, mained the hts plus for fps games and used Hati M wired for rts games. But recently, I brought the hyperx pulsefire haste 2 mini and the shape is even more amazing. You should give it a try. It fits so nice and is the most comfortable mouse I ever used. Only con was the cheap grip tape it came with. Everything else is quite decent.
I’ve been having a look for the haste 2 mini but it’s never on the UK Amazon. As soon as it shows up I’ll get it and give it a whirl. Thanks for the suggestion 😁
What about the ATK F1 Pro max? It should top this list.
You should try ZA12-C or ZA13-C and OG G303 and G303 SE.
Had the G303SE before, interesting mouse! Funnily enough I’m doing a video on it and mice with specific grip requirements. Cheers for the recommendations 😁
What is ur main mousepad and mouse?
At the moment I’m on the Viper V3 Pro and Artisan Zero - Soft
Main difference u feel in hand between xe s and op1 ? They look like similar shape
The OP1 has more of a wedge shape with the hump sat further back, so I get more contact under where my knuckles are and it’s not as wide as the XE-S. It feels more like a scalpel than a knife if that makes sense. The thinner front and widening out to the back also feels more comfortable to me, just more natural.
Atlantis na frente do U2 ?? onde está o Sora v2 - WL beast X e MAX - XEs - MAYA ?
Acabo de adquirir el Sora V2, el Maya era aburrido y demasiado genérico. El U2 es demasiado restrictivo para mí. El Atlantis tiene una forma mejor para mí. El Beast X es más para la punta de los dedos a menos que tengas manos pequeñas y el Max no lo usaría para ese agarre.
timestamps with mice names would be appreciated
I’ll sort it, thanks for the suggestion! 😁
bro which is better gpx 2 or wlmouse beast x max?
Depends what you’re looking for as they’re wildly different mice. A good mid point between the two looks to be the Lamzu Maya X 8K, should be out sometime next month. 1000% worth a look!
how tf do you cut your fingernails so damn short! thats gotta be uncomfortable
Some people have an addiction to cutting and biting -or even eating- their nails untill it's very short. I personally really dislike it because when I see the nails like that, I get extremely uncomfortable.
@@Spectrulight I get the same way, I hate when I accidentally cut mine too short, or break it short somehow. His nails are literally half the length of mine, and mine are short ...
no chinese mice , disappointing
They’re all Chinese mice technically 😂 G-wolves is definitely Chinese! Aha
I should do a run down of budget Chinese mice, I’ve been eyeing the OGM cloud for a while.
Cuz Chinese mice are a$$ and have very bad RF firmwares and wireless tech and don’t have 8khz pull rake like and all weigh so much compared to USA made Finalmouse ULX 29g 8khz pull rate and lowest click latency on any wireless mouse to date right behind the Endgame Gear OP18k and with very light spammable trinkets binder ASMR guano blue shell pink dot switches then we got Vaxee with their impecable wireless performance making their mice feel like wired mice while being wireless and have such low wireless latency and click performance with such silt smooth no acceleration no nothing wireless performance with 4khz pull rate and always innovating with lower weight and light spammable huano blue shell black dot clicks. Then we got Zowie king of shapes with no pain that suit everyone with every hand size and has the best built quality of any mice to date that’s built like a tank and will never break or deform shape and has great 0 interference with any wireless devices with their big antenna receiver and feels buttery smooth to use and no motion delays no click latency and very low latency at esports lan tournaments. So point is USA makes the best mice on the market over Chinese mice and Chinese mice have no room to speak and compete cuz they are so a$$ and there’s so many better options to pick from that are way better performance, weight, shape, and size over any other Chinese mice on the market!
Lamzu and Gwolves are Chinese
@@aidanpremium9870 dude, you have NO idea what you are talking about. What nonsense. There are tons of Chinese mice that are just as good or better than these mice are, and they almost all offer at least 4k polling and most are offering 8k polling as well. The latest mice are offering 3950 sensors as well.
Maybe learn what you are talking about opening your yap
@@aidanpremium9870 yappin nonsense weirdo
No r1 pro or vgn x1 bye