Aim Coach Fixes Valorant Pro's Grip: A Guide To Mouse Grip
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- čas přidán 19. 06. 2023
- Mouse grip is one of the most widly talked about concepts in aiming, aim training, and Valorant. If you want to aim well, a bad mouse grip can prevent that. If you want good aim, a good mouse grip will help, though it isn't an instant fix to problems. If you want a good mouse grip, you need to watch this video. If you want to develop a good mouse grip, watch this video.
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west gave me one super simple tip and i immediately felt an improvement in my game. genuinely impressed, thanks bro.
hey thanks! i had a palm grip with my fingers flat on the mouse. and i have always been uncomfortable, and aware that something's not right with my grip. i tried many things. i thought i just have to practice more with my grip to improve it. thanks for pointing it out. this was so helpful!!
great to see you back. You give me motivation to aimtrain
Didn't think much of it then since I thought it didn't matter, but I've recently realized that I subconsciously palm grip really tight on fps games and ftip on everything else (mobas or just using the pc browsing). When I switched to ftip on my fps games, man it's a world of difference. I improved my aim instantly (beat all my personal best scores in aim trainers and felt so improved in my games) especially tracking, flicking, and microadjustments like you said. And I didn't need to adjust much since it's the way I've naturally gripped my whole life.
Yeah this is what works for me with the mz1.. along with being one of the few mice that don’t make my hands sweat.. the deep comfort grooves allow me to move the mode with just my 2 fingertips then when I need extra stability I’m amble to pull the high back hump into my knuckles.. working on thinking egg recently so I keep a light grip on the mouse seems to be working pretty nicely
finally can find my grip thank you very much my finger was hurt when tried claw grip
Hi West, great video as per normal!! I wanted to know if you could help me out?
I suffer from an essential tremor in my hands, its progressively gotten worse but i feel like my tracking and reaction time is still good but the shaking is making it hard. I got use to a fingertip grip a bit ago, should i switch to palm?
I actually started using a rather different and weird grip style that you’ve probably never seen before, in other words it’s like a standard grip but different, it’s when you put the palm of your hand close to the back of the mouse but not all the way, you’ll know by looking at it from the bottom and seeing that there is a little space between the palm and the mouse then, I have the thumb on the left side, pointer and middle finger in the left mouse button and of course ring finger on right mouse button and lastly I have pinky on my right side of the mouse. Honestly, this is a pretty solid grip for me and it helps me have a lot more precision while also being able to flick fast and precise. The old mouse grip I was using was holding back my aim in my opinion so don’t try to copy other people’s mouse grips, find one on your own and try different ones that suit your style. If you feel discomfortability while holding your mouse then that means it’s not compatible and find a new one.
HSK Pro is so goated. People who say it's more of a meme are really underrating the mouse and most likely scared to try fingertip grip (near the back not the front) and are more likely extending their fingertips instead of curling them for maximum microadjustments.
I wouldn't even know where to put the other fingers on a mouse that small.
I swapped from a palm grip a bit over 2 months ago to an ftip grip. the main learning curve was learning when to tense my fingers for stability on hard flicks and when to let them be more relaxed for micro adjustments
Tension is big
@@WestProter im so glad to see you mention this, one tf teh things im still un sure about after 1400 hours of aim training is the tension in my forearm, by now i have decent control of different muscles in my arm shoulder wrist and fingers, and i tend to notice if i tense up my forearm occasionally im able to hit shot much better and more accurately, however it does seem to be uncomfortable after a little while, but its obvious to me how relaxing makes me much more unstable. Ive spent alot of time recently trying to not think about things as much and let my unconscious mind make the movements for me. Im still unsure what is the right thing and ive not heard anything about his specifically form any aim coach yet!
@vorkot1 God lord thank you man. I have not had anyone address this straight up and while I think if I don't think about it I happens somewhat naturally, I like to atleast be aware of the proper technique so I can correct if needed. I found it EXTREMELY uncomfortable to tense constantly and after some experimentation it was exactly what you said, the small micro adjustments have to be made relaxed or the strain is almost unbearable! I think it will push me up my small plateu I was feeling because of my confusion as what to do with the tension in my muscles!
@@swiftishttv there should be a balance of tension as well tho, too much tension can cause shakey aim so you have to learn how to balance it yourself
Using a lamzu atlantis rn. I notice that the issue of my grip is that my pinkie finger is always elevated, even though it feels natural I believe this is unhealthy. Are there any recommendations on fixing the pinkie position? When i tried to kinda tuck it to the back(?) Side of the mouse on the right I notice that my pinkie feels tense leading to somewhat of a discomfort(unless its bc I'm not used to the pinkie not being elevated). Sorry for the bad english.
I had a Corsair Harpoon for 3 years and I just got the Logitech G502 Hero. Was cool to see it here!
I have the ethos grip, the one with my pinky finger pointing out. My hand just kind of does it naturally when I play, and perfectly today I was trying to change my grips but I'm scared it would just make me more inconsistent
I use palm grip but i use like the muscles in my hand to make microadjustments, kinda wish I had started with a claw or fingertip grip but even after watching all your videos i don't think my grip holds me back at all
edit: I recently changed to fingertip because I realized tensing the muscles in my hand for microadjustments is really bad technique and is gonna lead to tendon stress issues in the future if I keep doing it. I swapped a couple days ago, and while it feels awkward still, my microadjustments are much smoother and more relaxed, and my forearms don't feel sore at all after a long training session.
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I have same problem but my finger is on the other side of the left click
My grip may vary depending on the game I'm playing.
In Valorant and cs I use palm-finger
In apex and cod I use claw
Hey I noticed you got the Logitech g502 hero in your video (My current gaming mouse ) I use fingertip grip and I love how my hand feels with the hero , but I’ve been thinking of switching mouses any recommendations that are similar to g502 mouse ? I love the shape of the mouse but I feel like there isn’t a lot of mouses that have the same or similar shape
Yo i got a prolem wit my pinkie finger bein so curled that it starts gettin hooked under the right side and over time playin like this hurts my pinkie finger but any othe pinkie position feels unnatural
my maij issue is long vertical/down flicks where i need to use my arm mainly. Its hard to flick in a straight line is this an issue with my grip?
Im a Palm player with little room (almost fingertip) im trying fingertip without the claw and idk man. Its rly good but i also got 10 years of practice on palm
Personally what I have found after trying out different grip styles, and the recent one the floating wrist (think ZywOo/Twistzz) Is that I prefer to anchor my thumb/ring/pinky finger's to the mousepad, using a relax palm/claw grip. Sure there is more friction, but this is the grip style that just feels the most natural to me, veil also giving me the most stability🙂
I have used the relax palm/claw grip the most, but before i did not really notice, if I had my pinky/thumb on the pad or not, but after i started trying different grip styles to find something that could make my aim more stable, i have to make sure I anchor my thumb/ring/pinky finger's to the mousepad🙂
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can i claw with deathadder? cuz it sometimes feels like just stops moving and its so annoying
i feel so uncomfy with my grip ive tried some good type of mouse like logitech g pro x superlight and razer viper v2 pro but while trying different positions i couldnt find the best grip for my hand that is comfortable
Hi I have question I got the death adder v3 pro I use 16000 dpi, and I use 4k polling rate is that fine? I haven’t seen pros on 4k I play Val
There is no need for 16k dpi for basically any game.
Sure there is a minimum dpi. But that value is smaller than you might think. I remember big talk from the Overwatch days. Talk about pixel skipping, where the smallest movement your mouse registers results on a rotation that is larger than a pixel on your screen. So you basically "skip" over a pixel, that you obviously can't hit.
But even at max fov on a 4k screen the value was around something like 500-600 dpi.
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ive had an hsk pro ace for a while and its great for me but a slightly bit too small so my pinkie is hanging on for dear life. still im glad i got it because now i know what kind of mouse im looking for.
Try to just put your pinky back a lil bit
@@WestProter ill give it a go
@@aqu434 Yes grip it more towards the back, not the front.
@@MeowTow i do but its too close to the back that my pinkie kinda falls off or is like half on half off
I agree but for example For me Palm grip just works great and theres a few pros who use a palm grip like Aspas one of the best in the world. I agree you should use what you are comfy with theres barely any reason why you would change your grip when its working for you.
I grip my mouse with thumb on left side, pointer on left click, middle on scroll wheel, ring on right click and pinky on right side. I kinda grip the mouse eveyr so tightly between my thumb and pinky and slightly claw my fingers. Do u think tbis is an okay mouse grip, im comfortable on it but i feel like sometimes i dont have proper control, any advice??
I'm a 1-3-1 user as well. I have big hands, so there is basically no other options.
i have the superlight X... before that ive been using the deathadder v2 mini and it felt really good, but the superlight its kinda unconfortable, my grip is fingertip mostly resting sometimes my knukles in the mouse too... I would like to have something like the deathadder v2 mini but in wireless and ultralight, any recommendations?
The shell of the mouse is a lot of the weight, so it’s hard to find large light mice.
@@WestProter no, wait, what i was trying to say is that i like smaller mices, superlight compared to deathadder v2 MiNi is bigger, so what i meant is that i would like to find a light weight, small mice, but not something too exagerated, just like a normal mice but small
I just wanna get rid of my palm grip but also I can't adapt on anyother grip 😢
You may be using a mouse that's just too heavy for another grip to be viable.
So I play fornite but my problem with my grip is I put my finger high up every time I edit
So when I am browsing or playing any other game I use ftip grip, it is natural. But when I play fps games i have hybrid grip. Do you think I should also do ftip when playing fps since it is my natural when I am not tensed?
Yk I’ve seen A LOT of people do this and usually if your fps grip is different it’s for a reason. If your finger motion is good still I would keep everything as is
@@WestProter mhm. The moment I start thinking about my grip i play worse. How would I stop thinking about my hand mid game?
OP CODE, ty for the educational vid and also the code
Happy to help. Gotta hide those better.
@@WestProter tbh it was hard, I was honestly lucky to say the least. That I glanced at the perfect moment
Tysm got the second code
I feel anxious when aim training idk y
this is a very late comment since it's been 7 months but i just wanted to ask if there's a way for me to se finger tip grip while being able to use the side mouse button?
Strongly discourage it
so its better to just stick to a claw grip rather than trying to swtich@@WestProter
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Yes
I legit pinch my mouse 😅
My mouse is small compare to my hand the mouse is logitech m170 its so small
I have a question. I have a tilted grip. Its extremly stable, b ut its tilted, so wrist moviments are a bit inconsistent. Is it that bad to have a tilted grip? I mean, I tried all kind of mouses, mousepads, and grips. And only this tilted grip allows me to havve actual control on the mouse. Being able to react to anything incredibly quickk
maybe move your whole arm at more of an angle?
@@somewhatideal Ended up using it tilted, just less tilted. I'm really annoyned tho, because there seems to be no information related to this,
allow your fingers to move👍
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I would like some more clarification about the point at 6:12 about palm grip and not having access to fingertips.
I'm a palm gripper, and I play CS:GO. There are some small vertical adjustments required (like aiming for players who are standing up or at an elevated angle), but nothing crazy most times.
Do you believe palm grip is suboptimal for CS:GO/Val in that sense?
Small vertical adjustments are where the fingers accel, not a reason to not use them. No amount of finger motion on a viable sens will allow you to do some massive vertical flick, that is in the shoulder.
@@WestProter Thank you, I guess a better way to rephrase is:
If I can't really use fingertips for a palm grip, does that make palm grip not ideal for CS:GO?
Wait I’m bot supposed to hold it upside down?
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