How to get enough of the right kind of protein in your diet | Peter Attia and Rhonda Patrick

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    This clip is from episode 252 - Latest insights on Alzheimer’s disease, cancer, exercise, nutrition, and fasting with Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D. Rhonda is a scientist with expertise in the areas of aging, cancer, and nutrition who translates complex scientific topics into actionable insights on her podcast, Found My Fitness.
    In this clip, they discuss:
    - The bioavailability of protein in plant and animal protein sources
    - How many grams of protein does one need per day?
    - Understanding daily protein needs from an amino acid perspective
    - And more
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  • @RobertGibbs-pw3qu
    @RobertGibbs-pw3qu Před měsícem +50

    I believe Peter misspoke at time index 6:10. I believe he meant to say 2 grams per kilogram, not 2 grams per pound.

  • @nickyrobinson701
    @nickyrobinson701 Před měsícem +11

    Getting sufficient protein while trying to restrict or maintain calories is very difficult for me! Thank you for the advice!

  • @Scottlp2
    @Scottlp2 Před měsícem +11

    The counterpart is the people advocating/pointing out the data suggesting that methionine restriction has benefits.

  • @JWinchell
    @JWinchell Před měsícem +6

    Menlo Henselmann says the research doesn't show benefits above about .82g per pound, except in unusual circumstances.
    (There is a recent CZcams video of him being interviewed by Mike Israel on this).
    Protein timing rules of thumb from older research are also proving not be to be correct. So I would question that 4 protein feedings a day are proven by research.

  • @chaselinton7827
    @chaselinton7827 Před měsícem +9

    @peterattiamd Love this but what is your rebuttal to Bryan Johnson and his stack at 100g. There has also been studies showing reduction in amino's increases longevity. Could you please explain your position. Thanks

  • @bartstienen4161
    @bartstienen4161 Před měsícem +10

    Hi Peter 🤗 If adding omega 3's to each meal can up proteïne synthesis by 4x can you then get by with a little less proteïne?

    • @nattyfatty6.0
      @nattyfatty6.0 Před měsícem +1

      Too many Omega-3s could potentially inhibit MPS due to over-reducing of inflammation
      The Omega-6 inflammatory / Omega-3 anti-inflammatory model is being challenged a lot lately though. It probably doesn't matter

  • @javadhashtroudian5740
    @javadhashtroudian5740 Před měsícem +9

    Thank you both as usual.
    At 77 I'm currently in middle of a multiday water only fast. Glucose 80, Ketones 2.2. Good ketosis.
    When I'm eating normally: 4 days a week intermittent fasting; it is difficult for me to eat 1gm protein for each lb.
    My physiological age is 66 according to 100 blood tests.
    Any help on do I need to force myself to eat 160 gms of protein or given that I'm very healthy for my age just continue as I am doing?
    With thanks for any reply.

    • @jakubchrobry3701
      @jakubchrobry3701 Před měsícem +1

      Please provide any research studies that show eating this much protein is beneficial.

    • @Bryanna8026
      @Bryanna8026 Před měsícem +1

      With respectfully but why in the earth you are multiday water only fast at age 77? Have you heard about sarcopenia? Peter mentioned millions times that he lost massive muscle mass in water fast and urge caution. I do not reply much your comment triggered me😅

    • @javadhashtroudian5740
      @javadhashtroudian5740 Před měsícem

      @@Bryanna8026 Thank you. I do a three to five day water only fast every quarter to increase autophagy and stem cell production. I walk about 13000 steps a day on average and according function blood tests my physiological age was 66 six months ago. Soon to have another 60 blood tests. Curious to see if my physiological age has increased or decreased.

  • @wsteele5864
    @wsteele5864 Před měsícem

    A while back a friend referred me to Dr Attia's channel. It has only been a few weeks since I modified my diet to accomplish the 185g of daily protein I need for my 185lb of body weight. I have been doing fairly well achieving the 1g/lb goal and I noticed something kind of strange.
    Long prior to my starting the 1g/lb dietary regimen I had partially torn my rotator cuff in a fall I took this winter on a steep icy trail. I have been going to a physical therapist weekly to rehab my shoulder and while progress was slow, I did see monthly improvement in my range of motion and strength without pain. Since I started the 1g/lb regimen it seems my recovery pace has significantly increased. The progress I might have been making in a month I seem to be getting in a week. Clearly this is just an anecdotal experience and likely is just that I was closer to the end of my rehab than the start, but it seems like I am getting meaningful (like 10%) gains per week now in ROM and strength without pain, versus more like that amount in a month before I went to the 1g/lb intake.

    • @GrowingThroughItAll
      @GrowingThroughItAll Před měsícem +1

      Protein is critical for wound healing of all kinds

    • @wsteele5864
      @wsteele5864 Před měsícem

      @@GrowingThroughItAll I guess I was surprised at the pace of recovery before my diet modification and after, perhaps I was pretty protein deficient before I went on the 1g/1lb plan.

  • @LaaraCopley-Smith
    @LaaraCopley-Smith Před měsícem +3

    Would love you to speak on aiding the digestion of increased protein amounts.

  • @MorgenFrue118
    @MorgenFrue118 Před 28 dny

    @peterattia I wonder if it the same amount for men and women - and regardless of age? I eat less as I age and the large protein requirements are becoming almost impossible plus taking away the joy of eating. Surely joy at meal times contribute to happy longevitiy!

  • @andrewrivera4029
    @andrewrivera4029 Před měsícem +9

    I’m 58 year young OMAD carnivore, did a DEXA scan in February and I’m at the top of my age group in lean body mass and bone density. I eat about 1-2 lb of meat in addition to fat maybe some cheese and or pork rinds and I’m losing a very comfortable 4 lb a month so I’m sticking to this.

    • @justinsutherland3606
      @justinsutherland3606 Před měsícem +2

      snap, good isn't it

    • @AlexG-wk3nh
      @AlexG-wk3nh Před měsícem

      Whats your lipid profile like?

    • @andrewrivera4029
      @andrewrivera4029 Před měsícem +1

      @@AlexG-wk3nh my last lipid was 220 LDL, 80 HDL, 81 tri so as a 0 carb I’m happy. Did a CAC at 52 and 57 both were 0. My BMI is 28 so I’m almost to LMHR numbers.

    • @justinsutherland3606
      @justinsutherland3606 Před měsícem

      @@AlexG-wk3nh Dunno but that Gary Brecker / Dana White blood testing looks interesting. I'm trying to restrict my exercise to 100 burpees and 100 jumps every morning, short strength sessions every other day - total workout time 10-15 mins max. Not sure all that youthful cardio is going to move the dial in future :)

    • @famcation3214
      @famcation3214 Před měsícem

      @@justinsutherland3606. Can you go into more detail on 10-15 min sessions? You do once a day? Is it all HITT focused? Is there research or someone pushing this idea? I know Pavel has made something like this popular with Grease the Grooves but that is multiple quick sessions a day. Thanks for your insight and feedback.

  • @milossavic6642
    @milossavic6642 Před měsícem +7

    Keeping track of protein intake makes me nervous, so I don’t count. I don’t take supplements but when I realise I might be short I snack on various nuts. It’s just overwhelming and takes away joy of active lifestyle.

  • @Siliconcow
    @Siliconcow Před měsícem +5

    Just noting there is some unit-confusion in this video. The video starts with a recommendation @ 1g/lb or 2.2g/kg which is pretty standard but later Peter says 2g/lb. I imagine he meant to refer back to 2.2g/kg, as 2g/lb is pretty bananas, esp for someone trying to lose weight - basically advocating a carnivore diet at that point.

    • @erastvandoren
      @erastvandoren Před měsícem +1

      2.2 g/kg is not standard, standard is 0.8 g/kg.

  • @raynabozny2338
    @raynabozny2338 Před měsícem +2

    What about taking an Amino Acids

  • @gavin1426
    @gavin1426 Před měsícem +4

    Why do you say methionine lysine and leucine are most important instead of BCAAs leucine isoleucine and valine?

    • @shaunkerr8721
      @shaunkerr8721 Před 21 dnem

      You get BCAA's in the amounts needed easily through eating meat and there's research which suggest taking BCAA's in high quantities can have deleterious side effects for a good size of the population. For the levels he suggest of the "big three" aminos he talks on episode 224 about how they are the building blocks important for producing creatine, regulating the metabolic process, digestive process/efficiency, build other proteins, help regulate insulin / sensitivity, regulating the immune system, regulate the production of HgH, minimize bone density loss, and increase skin and bone healing (which is important as you age as infections and bone breaks are some of the highest risk factors in the elderly)
      BCAA's are good for producing proteins and are essential, but, as I said, it is easy to obtain enough in a normal diet while the big three take some more dedication thus making them more important to pay attention to.

  • @gilbertcacti6353
    @gilbertcacti6353 Před měsícem

    Is Jerkj stick from venison high in sodium?

  • @anthonyrondolino8148
    @anthonyrondolino8148 Před měsícem +14

    2.2 grams is very very hard. Particularly when you are trying to maintain a diet that does not include excess calories. Running & strength training burns quite a bit but it is almost essential to use protein shakes and eat lots of chicken, fish and red meat.

    • @erastvandoren
      @erastvandoren Před měsícem

      2.2 grams is very very stupid

    • @avoidantbehavior
      @avoidantbehavior Před měsícem

      @@erastvandoren say more

    • @JakeRichardsong
      @JakeRichardsong Před měsícem

      Reported for misinformation. Eating meat is not required.

    • @Joooooot
      @Joooooot Před měsícem +2

      Speak for yourself haha i could do 3g daily very easily. I love protein

    • @bb.buchanan
      @bb.buchanan Před měsícem

      Use whey; a serving is around 120kcal and typically 24-28g protein per serve - There's a reason it's been so popular since it first arrived. It's also the highest bioavailable form of protein there is @ 99%. Have a small shake between meals (250ml water and 1 scoop) and it hardly dents your hunger or have it with your meal.

  • @dnperez93
    @dnperez93 Před měsícem +3

    I find that whey protein upsets my stomach, is pea protein a good alternative?

    • @zarko89sd
      @zarko89sd Před měsícem +1

      Not really, because pea as a source of protein doesn’t contain all the essential amino acids. It’s a good supplement but I wouldn’t say it’s a proper alternative for whey protein. Hope this helps.

    • @4242brvrdbd
      @4242brvrdbd Před měsícem +1

      Fairlife makes delicious protein shakes. My wife also gets upset from whey.. she loves these

    • @dnperez93
      @dnperez93 Před měsícem

      Thank you!

  • @skillsforchildren
    @skillsforchildren Před 23 dny

    I am 300 lbs, is the protein recommended per pound of ideal body weight or actual weight?

  • @olekike72
    @olekike72 Před měsícem

    At 6:48, Peter mentions the Drtr-approach for overweight people. What is that?

  • @gcdelrosario
    @gcdelrosario Před měsícem

    Any good whey protein brand that doesn't have sugar or carbs on it?

    • @LaaraCopley-Smith
      @LaaraCopley-Smith Před měsícem

      Just search grass feed natural unflavoured. Then check the ingredients. Should be easy to find.

    • @kevinwakely6120
      @kevinwakely6120 Před měsícem

      I like Trasnparent Labs 100% Grass-Fed Whey Protein Isolate…low sugar, fat & carb and high in protein …mixed with unsweet Almond Milk and I don’t feel bloated either which is a win

  • @gilbertcacti6353
    @gilbertcacti6353 Před měsícem +4

    If you increase mTOR activity, would this affect probability of cancer growth?

    • @JGComments
      @JGComments Před měsícem +4

      Higher IGF-1 is a problem too. Colorectal, breast, and prostate cancer risk can increase up to 15 percent, risk is higher for red meat and processed meats. However, vegetables, omega 6 fats, and PUFAs have protective effects, so make sure to include those.

    • @gilbertcacti6353
      @gilbertcacti6353 Před měsícem

      So Dr. Attia recommendations will increase the chances of getting cancer, not only bu increase IGF1, but also mTOR pathway

    • @gilbertcacti6353
      @gilbertcacti6353 Před měsícem +1

      I respect him, I think he is very intelligent, but he is wrong, eventually he will find out. There other Physician's in CZcams that promote certain way of eating and later the got sick and admitted their mistakes

    • @JGComments
      @JGComments Před měsícem

      @@gilbertcacti6353 Any increased intake of complete protein / essential amino acids will have this effect. With the body there are always tradeoffs. Low muscle mass and poor strength and balance in old age is also a big problem.

    • @gilbertcacti6353
      @gilbertcacti6353 Před měsícem

      Definitely, but I only do complete protein post weight training workout, which once per day in the afternoon. The other two previous meals are from plants and nuts only.

  • @juddvansickle
    @juddvansickle Před měsícem +5

    2.2g/kg, even though the bulk of the muscle protein synthesis research says your needs top out at ~1.6-1.8g/kg? Even if you are over weight/obese? (I'd agree with ~1g/lb of lean body mass). A 100kg female is not going to eat 200g of protein, but asking them to hit 110g is going to be more manageable. I'm not convinced that overshooting is an optimal strategy for most people, as it sets them up for failure.

    • @christopherhaak9824
      @christopherhaak9824 Před měsícem +1

      It should be one gram per lb of your lean ideal body weight. This calc takes out the obesity and fat issues.

    • @bradyhayden
      @bradyhayden Před měsícem

      I've also heard 0.7-1g/lb of target body weight. So if a 200lb individual wanted to lose 50lbs, they'd aim for 105-150g of protein intake. A higher protein diet also burns more calories in its metabolic breakdown so it's still beneficial to aim high in that regard.

    • @nattyfatty6.0
      @nattyfatty6.0 Před měsícem

      There's a g/kg where it's plenty sufficient for MPS or w/e, and then additional protein is simply dietary preference, a means to facilitate a caloric restriction, or as an "anti-catabolic" measure during large caloric deficits / extended periods of weight loss. Protein intake matters least during surpluses or maintenances - Obese people can benefit from the satiety of protein but it's not required and if they can manage their intake w/o it they're better eating a normal amount of protein IMO just because it's cheaper

    • @gz826
      @gz826 Před měsícem

      The 2.2g/kg recommendation is for athletes and in this case comes along with resistance training and anabolic resistance developed with age. Calculate the amount of protein and track it through the day once or twice to appreciate how much it is, so next time to err on the higher side. It's really hard to eat that much protein. All individuals have different goals...

  • @nattyfatty6.0
    @nattyfatty6.0 Před měsícem +3

    1:56 I typically get 320-380g of protein a day on 2500-2800kcal without really thinking about it. You'd be surprised how far you can get with lean meats, egg whites, fat free cheeses, and low carb/"keto" bread/buns/wraps/etc. The 4 slices of "keto bread" I had this morning was 24g of protein alone. With the egg whites, fat free cheese and turkey bacon that accompanied it, that ended up being 135g protein

    • @rory644
      @rory644 Před měsícem +3

      Way too excessive at that rate almost 1600 calories are protein. 2 grams per kg is sufficient for almost everyone even avid gym goers

    • @bb.buchanan
      @bb.buchanan Před měsícem +3

      Mate honestly I think you should rethink that; Chris Bumstead has approx 200-250g protein p/day and whilst I don't know you, I'm assuming your nutrition demands aren't as stringent as his. Anything above 280 just seems superfluous and potentially harmful.

  • @aureliandumitru8382
    @aureliandumitru8382 Před měsícem +1

    What people fail to realize is that the anabolic state of human body can be also ``beneficial`` to some types of cancer. We are ment to feast and fast. I apreciet the point of view from his perspective but i`ll stick with my 18:6 IF protocol.

  • @teresahunt5521
    @teresahunt5521 Před měsícem +23

    I work five 10 hour nursing shifts every week. No meal breaks. No one gives a rip about my meal timing. I do the best I can.

    • @sirwalksoftly
      @sirwalksoftly Před měsícem

      Look into a meal prep service honestly. In my area I can pay about $108 for 8 good meals.

    • @Gref75
      @Gref75 Před měsícem +4

      I'd like to say thank you for your service. You do probably most honorable work there is for us and we all know we, patients, are not as polite as we should be.

    • @teresahunt5521
      @teresahunt5521 Před měsícem

      @@Gref75 Thank you! Getting ready for the last shift of the week. Nothing like that first cup of protein coffee at 3:00 am. Lol Have a nice day kind person!

    • @vladgeor5579
      @vladgeor5579 Před měsícem +2

      The dumbest, most straight-forward advice I can give in this situation - load on protein shakes.
      There's nothing simpler or faster to boost your daily protein intake.
      Research suggests it to be safe for healthy individuals.

    • @teresahunt5521
      @teresahunt5521 Před měsícem +8

      @@vladgeor5579 They just aren't very filling...and the liquid makes you need to pee. Yes...nurses have to be able to hold their urine for long periods of time. Yesterday's lunch was beef jerky. Even that was interrupted by a code blue followed immediately by a state inspection. (The patient lived and I got 100% on the inspection). Thanks for the tip though! I've learned to slam entire containers of unsweetened Greek yogurt. Cottage cheese is pretty easy to shovel down too. I don't have time for chewing. 🤣 I have some kettlebells hidden in a storage room. I sometimes can manage a few lifts. I just have to be near enough to hear the phone ring. Some of us are really grinding out here to work fitness into our real lives.

  • @annetcell-ly4571
    @annetcell-ly4571 Před měsícem +3

    A man typically eats more - especially if they work hard or are training hard. I’m starting to think that women have different demands that can’t be compared to men, yet male experts are probably speaking inclusively. I’m like Rhonda, I struggle to fit in large amounts of protein. My go to’s are eggs, crustless quiches, yogurt, cheese, chicken, salmon and a small amount of beef - throughout the week!

    • @annetcell-ly4571
      @annetcell-ly4571 Před měsícem +1

      @@johanna4641 You might find what Dr Felice Gersh has to say about female physiology and the role of oestrogen informative.

    • @johanna4641
      @johanna4641 Před měsícem

      @@annetcell-ly4571 good luck with menopause

  • @stevescott260
    @stevescott260 Před měsícem +3

    Does anyone know the company that makes the venison sticks Peter referenced?

    • @ScottDCS
      @ScottDCS Před měsícem +1

      maui nui venison
      Expensive af.
      Dr. Attia is an investor.
      My local butcher makes "meat sticks" which are $12.50 for 10 and have over 10g protein each. Just beef. Shop around!

    • @GrowingThroughItAll
      @GrowingThroughItAll Před měsícem

      Honestly in this economy, it's insane what these influencers are promoting.
      Direct to consumer SHOULD result in lower costs, even if higher quality but all these companies... Maui nui, butcher box, athletic greens, etc... are breaking the bank for most.
      There are plenty of clean jerky companies out there like chomps and Trader Joe's brand

  • @jannmacdougall1448
    @jannmacdougall1448 Před měsícem +21

    Yogurt,cocoa, salt, oatmeal & protein powder, peanut butter, so yummy great way to start the day..

    • @sirwalksoftly
      @sirwalksoftly Před měsícem

      Kefir for me but heck yea!

    • @HoNow222
      @HoNow222 Před měsícem +1

      oatmeal and peanut is too inflammating for me.

  • @Lisa-du6pv
    @Lisa-du6pv Před měsícem

    I get hungry In 2hrs with a whey protein isolate shake. I add in 3 -4 poached eggs and am good to go for 5+ hrs. On a busy day that is my jam.

  • @iamzebra7025
    @iamzebra7025 Před 11 dny

    Micro is micro for a reason. Take care of the main issues and the small stuff will follow👍🏼

  • @davidseago
    @davidseago Před měsícem +2

    1g per lb for me is about 180g of protein. That feels too much in my experience. Typically i aim for anything between 100g - 150g (130g being pretty optimal as i see it).
    I typically get this amount from 2 meals per day + a protein shake. I don't pay attention to any other macros really. Not at the moment while I'm trying to lose a couple more kilos in total body weight. I find this method extremely manageable.

    • @JakeRichardsong
      @JakeRichardsong Před měsícem

      Agreed. There is no reason to eat 180 grams of protein per day.

    • @meelvis939
      @meelvis939 Před měsícem

      Agreed. Getting .7 gram of protein per lb of body weight is adequate if you weight train per research.

  • @ALT-vz3jn
    @ALT-vz3jn Před měsícem

    I try to eat 1 8oz steak a day and also a high protein whey protein shake which is about 30gr. Then things like tuna or salmon on homemade sourdough. Collage protein in oatmeal. Homemade yogurt (super easy!) I don’t eat a lot so it’s almost impossible for me to get 140gr of protein…and yes I take a GLP-1 for T2 and my A1C is stable in range.
    I’ve NEVER seen someone on mounjaro who only drink alcohol. You literally have no desire for alcohol when you take it.

  • @surrealistidealist
    @surrealistidealist Před měsícem +4

    I think most people still think the body can only absorb 30 to 40 grams of protein in each sitting. That's why they think it's too hard to get 150 to 250 grams of protein per day. But that's outdated information. The body can probably absorb 100 to 200 grams of protein per sitting without any trouble.

    • @legasees
      @legasees Před měsícem +1

      @surrealistidealist The amount of protein that can be absorbed is virtually unlimited. The amino acids that are not utilized directly by the liver enter the bloodstream, after which almost all become available for use by tissues.
      The more pertinent question for me is what’s the upper protein intake threshold per meal for maximizing muscle-building?
      Although researchers are still investigating that question, the current accepted scientific answer is somewhere around 40-70 grams per meal, and 1-1.6 grams of protein per pound of body weight daily. This is consistent with what Dr. Attia proposes.

    • @nattyfatty6.0
      @nattyfatty6.0 Před měsícem +1

      It can absorb an essentially infinite amount, the 30-60g numbers you hear are the hypothetical limit on protein which _can be used to stimulate MPS_

  • @makennachicky7010
    @makennachicky7010 Před měsícem

    So relieved to hear this conversation between you two. Getting enough protein is like chasing a dragon!! Can you share the company that makes the jerky?

    • @JakeRichardsong
      @JakeRichardsong Před měsícem

      He is part owner or investor in the company. That's why he talks about it.

  • @nicolasismirnioglou5894
    @nicolasismirnioglou5894 Před měsícem

    Where should we order these venison jerkey sticks?

    • @JakeRichardsong
      @JakeRichardsong Před měsícem

      He is an investor or owner of the company. They are also extremely expensive, and have to be flown or shipped from Hawaii.

  • @bwrscott1
    @bwrscott1 Před měsícem

    Mmm shakes. Like doing protein, berries, and flax milk.

  • @kpsig
    @kpsig Před měsícem

    Lamb, goat and beef meet for the win. If you sweat a lot, pay attention to salt and pepper.

  • @Journeyofamomdoc
    @Journeyofamomdoc Před měsícem +2

    I work in a hospital … every 5th person is on ozempic and I agree with Rhonda many of these folks look smaller meaning they have a smaller frame … but also look older, and they lose muscle abdominal faces are distorted, with more wrinkles and don’t look that good…..

    • @JakeRichardsong
      @JakeRichardsong Před měsícem

      Looking good? What does that mean scientifically? Nothing perhaps.

  • @AirPowered
    @AirPowered Před měsícem

    Eat it?

  • @Seanonyoutube
    @Seanonyoutube Před měsícem +43

    Any isolated protein powder bloats the hell out of me. It’s not worth it. I just ensure 3 of my meals contain a protein source and I move on with my life.

    • @rider65
      @rider65 Před měsícem

      Try gas x equivalent prior to drinking.

    • @achtungjamie
      @achtungjamie Před měsícem

      Whey protein is a scam. It’s garbage byproduct that use to get thrown away, then companies started selling it to body builders.

    • @Seanonyoutube
      @Seanonyoutube Před měsícem

      @@rider65 does ziltch for me.

    • @francoisbleau5543
      @francoisbleau5543 Před měsícem +3

      I have tried many, and some brand I can't, some other I have no problem with, I only use Optimum Nutrition gold now, don't have any issues and it's at Costco

    • @Seanonyoutube
      @Seanonyoutube Před měsícem

      @@francoisbleau5543 never tried any protein power from any brand that didn’t make me fart like mfr

  • @gilbertcacti6353
    @gilbertcacti6353 Před měsícem

    If you increase methionine intake , this will increase mTOR activity

  • @shelbygillenwater9218
    @shelbygillenwater9218 Před měsícem

    Is the venison jerky Maui Nui?

  • @gregory2421
    @gregory2421 Před měsícem +12

    If you have to make an effort to eat more, something tells me that's inherently wrong for longevity

    • @shetaz905
      @shetaz905 Před měsícem

      Agreed. This just seems wrong on an intuitive level.

    • @AlpeshK-co2pz
      @AlpeshK-co2pz Před měsícem +2

      Or it could be that the diet model of our society is more inclined towards carbs

    • @andrewokr16
      @andrewokr16 Před měsícem +2

      I'm pretty sure they made a point to say "more protein", not eat more in general.

    • @TyKH1000
      @TyKH1000 Před 28 dny +1

      Based on what, your feelings? Would you say the same about having to force yourself to eat more vegetables?

    • @gregory2421
      @gregory2421 Před 28 dny

      @@TyKH1000 Yes!

  • @cynthialucidi9997
    @cynthialucidi9997 Před 29 dny

    Amen!!! Protein muscle mass health span! 🫶🏼🫶🏼🫶🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼

  • @robertusga
    @robertusga Před měsícem

    Aha, so lean mass loss no longer big issue for folks with obesity (not the beach bod crowd) on GLP-1 meds provided protein intake is prioritized. Noted.

  • @meelvis939
    @meelvis939 Před měsícem +1

    Getting 1 gram per pound of body weight of protein is a challenge on the Mediterranean Diet!

  • @edstud1
    @edstud1 Před měsícem +1

    So complicated for most people?

  • @alphabeta8403
    @alphabeta8403 Před měsícem

    *1g protein per lb of body weight is wayy too much for 90% of 50+ yo to handle. Consistently that is.*
    0.5-0.8g/lb more realistic long term.
    90% of 50+ yo are NOT as physically active as these two, which is a requirement for the intake recommendation at 1g/lb.

  • @mikebennett4829
    @mikebennett4829 Před měsícem

    Anyone ever check their blood sugar after taking protein, supplements, protein powders 😮

    • @kashawhyte9311
      @kashawhyte9311 Před měsícem +1

      A lot of them are very low sugar or sugar free

  • @bumblebower1529
    @bumblebower1529 Před měsícem

    I’ve always gotten 250-300 at 190 body weight Idk how people struggle so much with protein it’s easy for me

  • @erastvandoren
    @erastvandoren Před měsícem

    0:55 🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻 Methionine restriction is the single best thing we can do for longevity.

  • @K4R3N
    @K4R3N Před měsícem +5

    Jesus 2g/lb, that means I'd be aiming for 300g+ daily. I can barely do 150g daily currently.

    • @user-vk7qv4uc2c
      @user-vk7qv4uc2c Před měsícem +7

      1g/lb or 2.2g/KG. So 150 grams will probably be fine

    • @MsQ275
      @MsQ275 Před měsícem +1

      I am lost on how you even do 150 g. I wish he would post his eating plan with the breakout on grams/serving

    • @grantwalsh5516
      @grantwalsh5516 Před měsícem +3

      Cottage cheese mixed with eggs, protein powder with Greek yogurt and berries in a smoothie, chicken and/or beef, 150-200 grams

    • @tomikotomihewitt657
      @tomikotomihewitt657 Před měsícem +1

      Yeah. That’s too much. Maybe those are numbers for elite athletes.

    • @fordusfiresoul
      @fordusfiresoul Před měsícem +2

      Yeah honestly this makes me shrug and say ok whatever, i’ll decline if i live til 80. This is hard to do especially if you have a lot of food allergies/sensitivities / gi issues etc.

  • @grantferrigan3837
    @grantferrigan3837 Před měsícem +2

    Low protein is better for longevity until you are a senior. Live well!

    • @ScottDCS
      @ScottDCS Před měsícem

      If you're sedentary, maybe.

  • @dirkjones3816
    @dirkjones3816 Před měsícem +15

    High protein seems to be the current bandwagon all the ex proponents of Intermittent fasting are promoting. I get that science evolves but a gram per pound seems excessive for the average person.

    • @MsQ275
      @MsQ275 Před měsícem +4

      thank you! I cannot imagine how fat and disgusting I would be with this much protein

    • @dc100dc100
      @dc100dc100 Před měsícem +19

      They aren’t average. They are working out 6-7 days per week, focusing on health and longevity. The average person is on the couch.

    • @dirkjones3816
      @dirkjones3816 Před měsícem +1

      @@dc100dc100 I do agree that protein needs increase with exercise level. Very few of us are willing or able to take working out to the level Peter Attia does. I am sold except I scale it all back at least 50% for my case. Still massively useful and informative

    • @rory644
      @rory644 Před měsícem

      @@MsQ275people get fat from eating excessive amounts of junk food and having terrible diets. Nobody’s out here getting obese from eating too much protein

    • @MegaLaban12345
      @MegaLaban12345 Před měsícem

      1g of protein per pound is not that hard. There are plenty of low fat but protinous foods. Cottage cheese, kvarg and low fat milk are packed with protein. Throw in one protein shake a day and your 75% of the way there.
      If you train even moderately you should make the tiny effort to drink a glass of milk with every meal, or whatever works for you.

  • @MsQ275
    @MsQ275 Před měsícem +7

    i feel like if i are 135 g of protein a day, i would be so so so obese
    how does this add up?

    • @bradyhayden
      @bradyhayden Před měsícem +7

      The average protein count for meats is 7g of protein per ounce of meat. So if you had 2 meals with 8oz of chicken/beef/fish/pork and a 30g protein shake for breakfast, that's 140 grams for the day. You could also swap one of the meals for a 5 egg omelet and still get close to 135 grams if you ate some jerky throughout the day. It can be pretty low-calorie as long as the sides aren't too calorie-dense. It seems daunting at first but it mainly just requires a lot of meal planning. Hope that helps.

    • @jakubchrobry3701
      @jakubchrobry3701 Před měsícem +2

      It doesn't add up. I have never seen any research studies provided by Peter Attia that 2.2 g/kg of protein is beneficial. I need some evidence that this will increase longevity and lower disease risk. I'm 60 and I can build muscle with much less protein. I'm leaner and more jacked than Attia. I would guess he is between 20% and 25% body fat.

    • @ImStuckInStockton
      @ImStuckInStockton Před měsícem +7

      135g of protein is fewer than 600 calories...

    • @rider65
      @rider65 Před měsícem

      @@jakubchrobry3701 Plenty out there. Your research needs WORK

    • @jbealsmusic
      @jbealsmusic Před měsícem

      I'm 6'2" 250lbs. 250g of protein is a LOT. Even with added protein shakes, it's a ton of meat/poultry/fish/dairy to hit that target daily. It's a lot of food, and it's very expensive. The longevity experts never tell you just how cost prohibitive all these interventions are. Between the recommended dietary requirements, exercise recommendations, supplements, and medications, it's clear longevity is a business catered to wealthier people.
      @@jakubchrobry3701 You may have some great genetics. For the average person, a target of 1.8-2.2g/kg for actively increasing muscle mass and/or reducing muscle loss during caloric deficit is backed by many studies. In regards to longevity, having and maintaining muscle mass (and hopefully the strength and balance that goes with it) through old age significantly reduces your fall risk and improves your ability to recover from a fall. That's the logic. If you're already muscular, exercise regularly, and stay in great shape, you're fine for now. When you notice your muscle mass starting to fade away (which will happen as you continue to age), increasing your protein intake (to 2.2g/kg max) may help reduce the speed at which you lose that muscle mass.

  • @user-go8jx4og1f
    @user-go8jx4og1f Před měsícem +2

    For elitists with time and discretionary income.

  • @gregbrown3764
    @gregbrown3764 Před měsícem

    We all know about the Lysine contingency. We know how important it is. 😎

  • @lamnuck
    @lamnuck Před měsícem

    How to advertise my venison jerkey without making it super obvious that that is the sole purpose of this video, haha

  • @trevornetting7427
    @trevornetting7427 Před měsícem

    Do all humans need science degrees and wealth to enable healthy dietary habits?
    Do humans possess an innate ability to ‘listen’ and self diagnose their own bodily requirements?
    The last 50-100 years of science fueled capitalism has bought enormous changes in human life worldwide … Positive and negative. But what sense/knowledge did we possess prior to this which enabled millions of years of evolution?
    Not knocking science, technology or capitalism but pointing to the obvious conclusion that something got us through the vast majority of human existence previous to this latter phase.
    I also question whether recent science will stop a large percentage of humanity from digging their own graves.

    • @erastvandoren
      @erastvandoren Před měsícem

      The healthiest foods are beans and other legumes. Cost pennies.

  • @shannonlockwood8684
    @shannonlockwood8684 Před měsícem

    When you train your metabolism to eat every 3 hours, it's pretty easy to get 1gram/ pound of ideal body weight in protein. I eat about 2.2g/# of body weight

  • @Icarianbrother
    @Icarianbrother Před měsícem +7

    Attia is not an expert in nutrition or fitness, but he portrays one.

    • @wilwn
      @wilwn Před měsícem +4

      He is not, but he has a very academic mindset, talks to relevant experts in those fields, critically evaluates the literature, and incorporates all that knowledge along with his clinical expertise.

    • @Icarianbrother
      @Icarianbrother Před měsícem

      @@wilwn "he has a very academic mindset" Attia does not do overhead presses, because he worries about spinal disc compression. However, Attia does trap-bar deadlifts which also cause spinal disc compression and he uses much more weight doing them. It does not make sense.

    • @Icarianbrother
      @Icarianbrother Před měsícem

      @@wilwn Attia believes that dietary changes can control blood cholesterol levels. Attia does not encourage people to do that through dietary changes, because he believes that it is too difficult. He prescribes statins instead. He is a typical doctor/pill pusher.

    • @wilwn
      @wilwn Před měsícem

      @@Icarianbrother I was not aware of this. That certainly does not make sense. When/where did he say this?

    • @wilwn
      @wilwn Před měsícem

      @@Icarianbrother he provides caveats for his statements though. He clearly states that dietary changes, even when taken to the extreme (avoidance of fat), can only take you so far. It has been well established that blood cholesterol is largely due to endogenous production/clearance. Dietary cholesterol does not contribute a significant amount.

  • @rajparmarman
    @rajparmarman Před měsícem +15

    1grms/lb of body weight is an absurd amount of protein, forces people to buy protein supplements and feeds the pockets of these people selling their supplements.....

    • @thesmith8933
      @thesmith8933 Před 17 dny +2

      It’s really not that hard

    • @Jefe-qh8kd
      @Jefe-qh8kd Před 16 dny

      ​@@thesmith8933Said absurd, not hard.

    • @LeekowalskiWalker
      @LeekowalskiWalker Před 10 dny +2

      It's not absurd.

    • @TheJamcentral1
      @TheJamcentral1 Před 7 dny +2

      If you eat 2 cups of oikos yogurt that’s 30g at 180 cals. It’s not hard at all unless you’re a giant

  • @mythicalghost1769
    @mythicalghost1769 Před měsícem +1

    That’s still not gonna be enough protein

  • @Judy-cm6kp
    @Judy-cm6kp Před měsícem

    As a Vegan I can't eat venison

  • @FeFeronkaMetallica
    @FeFeronkaMetallica Před měsícem

    I get 160g in 2 meals a day

  • @mike.999.s
    @mike.999.s Před 19 dny

    Jersey stick, how the fuck ☠️☠️ Poison ☠️☠️

  • @zanzabar7878
    @zanzabar7878 Před měsícem

    $600 worth of venison/month , I think i'll stick to Whey :D

  • @carolinagbb
    @carolinagbb Před měsícem

    Something doesn’t match, I would have to eat much more than My hunger tells mento eat to get that much protein, also my digestion and mood are affected by this, maybe we shouldn’t eat this much?, maybe it’s natural to lose some muscle with age and that’s it! Why to fight and struggle so much?, I don’t see centenarians in the blue zones doing all this longevity efforts…

  • @rssiddharth
    @rssiddharth Před měsícem

    I wonder how much sodium is there in a single jerky that Peter eats

    • @nattyfatty6.0
      @nattyfatty6.0 Před měsícem

      Sodium content is irrelevant if you don't have a preexisting condition

    • @rssiddharth
      @rssiddharth Před měsícem

      @@nattyfatty6.0 that's not entirely true. High sodium consumption leads to stiffening arteries independent of blood pressure due to oxidative stress.

    • @SIGMACH1
      @SIGMACH1 Před měsícem +1

      290 -380 mg for each stick. Too much sodium and pricey at $125 for 24 sticks.

  • @pegatrisedmice
    @pegatrisedmice Před měsícem

    2.2 grams per kilo, are these 2 fucking crazy? 😂

  • @gilbertcacti6353
    @gilbertcacti6353 Před měsícem

    Dr. Attia: with all your respect, but which diet do you follow. Based on my simple observation your body fat is not low at all, I could be wrong.

  • @blueheelercd
    @blueheelercd Před měsícem

    Fat needed to digest protein!?

  • @ferguswood4065
    @ferguswood4065 Před měsícem

    Well we all know Peter has stinky farts now

  • @blueheelercd
    @blueheelercd Před měsícem +1

    Protein needs healthy fat to absorb?!

  • @gondwana6303
    @gondwana6303 Před měsícem

    Frankly without rehearsing from her medical textbooks to repeat verbatim, Rhonda is a bit of an airhead.

    • @nattyfatty6.0
      @nattyfatty6.0 Před měsícem

      I think "airhead" is unfair. Some people are just better at presenting than conversating. Also IDK what you mean by "rehearsing" and "verbatim". No medical textbook would phrase things the way she says them

    • @gondwana6303
      @gondwana6303 Před měsícem

      @@nattyfatty6.0 Have you seen how Rhonda answered Peter when he asked about exercise "preventing" cancer. She obviously didn't know shit, but she tried to bullshit her way out of it. I work with top scientists and when they don't know, they say I don't know. Perfectly acceptable. Bullshit is never acceptable -- especially when dealing with people's health. I've seen her do this time and time again.

  • @erastvandoren
    @erastvandoren Před měsícem

    1:55 Two charlatans.

  • @bh613
    @bh613 Před 27 dny

    I’ll avoid Rhonda. If I see it I stop watching

  • @antoniaosborne4972
    @antoniaosborne4972 Před měsícem

    God i can’t stand how much you guys are complaining about wanting to eat.

  • @bobinowsk
    @bobinowsk Před 14 dny

    She seriously needs to work on stop saying the dreaded crutch word,"like." It's extremely off-putting.

  • @sergy5337
    @sergy5337 Před měsícem

    So little useful info with so much of empty talking!

  • @timmyj2366
    @timmyj2366 Před měsícem +4

    This is nonsense, complete absurdity. One gram per lb of body weight is what elite athletes need. Your average Joe is likely in need of .5 g per lb of body weight. There’s a variety of factors that affect your needs and so the worst advice regarding protein recommendations are blanket statements.
    The more muscle you have, the more protein you need. As you age, your protein needs slowly increase, activity levels affect protein needs, how efficiently your body assimilates protein is a serious variable too.

  • @davidhunt3606
    @davidhunt3606 Před měsícem +5

    Omg how can anyone stand to watch dr Patrick after she was advocating for giving our kids the jab. It's so disgusting

    • @DL-oq6nq
      @DL-oq6nq Před měsícem +1

      I've wondered if she was paid, or if she's just extremely ignorant. Either way, she's not a reliable source when it comes to.....anything.

    • @tomikotomihewitt657
      @tomikotomihewitt657 Před měsícem +3

      She WHAT!?! Ugh! I didn’t know that. Terrible 😣

    • @DL-oq6nq
      @DL-oq6nq Před měsícem

      @@tomikotomihewitt657 She really messed up on Rogan's podcast. I had watched her interviews on different shows up until that point. She had been on Rogan multiple times, but I don't believe that Joe has asked her back. Things got really awkward.

    • @olimpiatudor
      @olimpiatudor Před měsícem +1

      Did she? I had no idea... Yach!

    • @davidhunt3606
      @davidhunt3606 Před měsícem

      @olimpiatudor at least 2 episodes on JRE. Seemed obvious she's bought and paid for