Stop pretending VRChat doesn't exist.

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  • čas přidán 19. 05. 2024
  • The word “Metaverse” is thrown around constantly by the mainstream media, but somehow VRChat is always ignored- despite being the largest social VR platform with users spending tens of THOUSANDS of hours of their life in it… unlike Metaverse platforms such as Horizon Worlds and Decentraland. Where does our community fit into all of this? Watch the video as I break it all down.
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  • @Red_Planet
    @Red_Planet Před rokem +2204

    I hate the word “Metaverse”. It’s a buzzword that never has a consistent meaning. Ask 5 different people what they think the word means and they’ll probably all give you a different answer than the other.

    • @TheVirtualRealityShow
      @TheVirtualRealityShow  Před rokem +339

      Most certainly. There is no such a "Metaverse Expert" and anyone who claims to be is absolutely not one bahaha.

    • @baconbots
      @baconbots Před rokem +110

      Yeah, when I hear the world metaverse in mass media I assume the person using it has never actually used VR tech.

    • @emanuel3617
      @emanuel3617 Před rokem +60

      @@baconbots they put the headset on and say: ok, so now I put the Metaverse on guys

    • @devluz
      @devluz Před rokem +45

      It is actually quite well described in the novel Snow Crash that invented the term. It just looses its meaning because 99% of people using that word have no idea what they are talking about

    • @TheGladScientist
      @TheGladScientist Před rokem +16

      Yeah, it is one of those words that has transformed meaning, very quickly. Metaverse is all about worlds within worlds (hence the word meta), but now people just call any 3D space you can move around in a metaverse. Don't worry, I often educate both crypto ppl and the uninformed business folx that VRC is the most developed metaverse out there :)

  • @emanuel3617
    @emanuel3617 Před rokem +2543

    Omg PHIA's dad alone had a take on VR better than 80% of journalists dear lord

    • @CoPoint
      @CoPoint Před rokem +111

      Well, I guess he's got 'someone' showing him what it's _really_ all about 😁 - which is exactly the one thing that all those journalists are sorely amiss of 🤷‍♂...

    • @emanuel3617
      @emanuel3617 Před rokem +14

      @@CoPoint man, they're so annoying

    • @strayiggytv
      @strayiggytv Před rokem +23

      @@emanuel3617 I don't get why you'd expect journalists to heap praise on VR chat when phia literally pointed out that they were immediately able to find adult content, perverts and r@pe threats after being in VR chat for a few hours. If VRchat like experiences EVER want to go mainstream they HAVE to find a way to deal with stuff like that quickly and effectively. Basically your asking a journalist who's on a deadline to Wade through 4chans boards to find the few cool people who hang there.

    • @davidmartensson273
      @davidmartensson273 Před rokem +46

      @@strayiggytv I think the point is, most journalists will GO LOOKING for that content because it sells more viewers. Many of them want the controversy or they want to get sponsored by Meta. You can find the same thing in most of the platforms unless they are so limited that they are useless.
      But I do agree that it would be helpful if some of the journalists instead of looking for the bad made articles on the good places, places where you can meet the right people, the guides and learn how to stay away from the bad areas that will always exist on any platform where people exist.

    • @strayiggytv
      @strayiggytv Před rokem +7

      @@davidmartensson273 I disagree. I've been on IMVU for years and I can tell you, you can sign up for straight to the welcome room and run into giant t1tty giant @ss women in bdsm gear. Heck IMVU is even more strict with it's moderation and has adult content behind a paywall and age verification and STILL people pop into the Hangout with aheago face female avatars. I don't play VRchat but unless you have harsh active moderation at all times people will consistently be terrible online.
      Edited to add: if you have to have a guide to stay out of the bad places that's not a realistic first experience for the vast majority of users. If a journalist can easily find inappropriate material while playing in a way the average newbie might play them the game is the problem

  • @DraconixDG
    @DraconixDG Před rokem +1081

    Mark is the only person who's avatar looks more human than the human version of him

  • @thruzero
    @thruzero Před rokem +294

    I actually really hope Meta ignores VRChat, imagine if they bought and controlled VRChat, and how quickly that would kill it

    • @zero.Identity
      @zero.Identity Před rokem +39

      oh dont worry i think there would be bascially a 1:1 VRchat 2.0 free copy of the game where EVERYONE will switch to within a second

    • @housemouseshorts
      @housemouseshorts Před rokem +7

      pritty shure vrchats devs told them to f off I think they allready tryed

    • @RunicRasol
      @RunicRasol Před rokem +7

      @@housemouseshorts Doubtful. Most of VR Chat's money comes from venture capitalists. The point is for the company to grow large enough to sell to another major tech company for a significant amount more than the initial investment. If they told Meta no, it's because they were not offered enough. Likely because VR Chat isn't feature complete enough to be sold for enough to pay back their investors with a decent enough ROI.
      Besides, if they DID sell out, then we could all just jump ship to Chillout.

    • @housemouseshorts
      @housemouseshorts Před rokem +1

      @@RunicRasol problem with chillout and neos. Is they are infected with really obnoxious people who left VRChat already after EAC and hate vrchat people in every form sooo. They still don't shut up. and try and cancel people who didn't leave to this day.

    • @octo5042
      @octo5042 Před rokem +3

      no way. VRChat needs to become their own company.

  • @lambbonesdev
    @lambbonesdev Před rokem +1006

    VRChat is actually the only spot that has felt like a metaverse to me. What’s really important for these things is the community created content, and all these companies trying to create their “metaverse” want too firm of a grip on their virtual world for anyone to want to use it

    • @spankminister
      @spankminister Před rokem +31

      I used to do RP on MMOs like Star Trek Online. The problem is that because you're piggybacking on a game with other intentions than creating virtual worlds, their main focus may not be creating social hubs, and they even found maintaining existing User Created Content engines too unprofitable to maintain. So long as corporate control of these worlds persist, they are always going to be beholden to the interests of sales and marketing first, and the users second.

    • @IAnolastname
      @IAnolastname Před rokem +62

      That's the major issue. VRC is a base platform, they don't make any content and leave the CONTENT to the players. The community. They built the utilities and told the people in the city, "Go build your restaurants, build your homes. Build your communities."
      Meanwhile things like Meta and Horizon's idea is "Here's your house. Pay us for it. It's not what you want? Well, sorry!"

    • @cowgba
      @cowgba Před rokem +18

      If VRC is like a VR enthusiast's virtual home, Horizon Worlds is like a bland sterile hotel room. The way Zuckerberg has tried (and fortunately failed) to monopolize on the Metaverse concept is a perfect example of what happens when everything is treated as a means to make money above all else. I grew up during the tail end of the "wild west" era of the internet in the late 90's/early 2000's, and a lot of what made that time so special is present in VR Chat today: the absolute freedom of creativity and self-expression, the lack of corporate oversight, and the feeling that the internet is vast and diverse and ripe for exploration. By comparison, most of our online experience now is spent on a handful of sites owned by big tech companies (hi CZcams) and even the small sites are often tied back to those companies through things like AdSense, social logins, and so on.
      Slowly but surely we let these corporations take over the internet, and I worry that they're about to get away with it again in social VR.

    • @peagames2002
      @peagames2002 Před rokem +6

      Not to mention in "Metaverse" you need to pay for virtual land. A land I doubt you can even modify to your hearts content in Unity, because Zuckerberg thinks his customers are dumb.

    • @SlainByTheWire
      @SlainByTheWire Před rokem

      That's the thing, in the real world people have their own space they make personal to them, their home. They have their own friends and communities, people open businesses etc.
      Then there's stuff like big corporations and big government and idealistic BS that want to take all that away to mold the world and control what it feels and looks like, nobody wants that. It's gross and soulless.

  • @IaconDawnshire
    @IaconDawnshire Před rokem +292

    The Metaverse WISHES it was VR Chat

    • @acsilver2777
      @acsilver2777 Před rokem +9

      let not give zucc any ideas... he could buy outright. that would be so sad

    • @moonstar8908
      @moonstar8908 Před rokem

      I agree

    • @ecogreen123
      @ecogreen123 Před rokem

      @@acsilver2777 agreed

    • @FireyDeath4
      @FireyDeath4 Před rokem +1

      Nah, it doesn't
      It's half-ignorantly trying to be as anti-VRChat as possible since it just thinks it's a niche cesspool of predation and dodginess

    • @bateli9733
      @bateli9733 Před rokem

      @@acsilver2777 I wouldn't be surprised at all.

  • @themagicmaster2480
    @themagicmaster2480 Před rokem +268

    Potentially controversial opinion, but I actually like the fact that VR Chat is mostly ignored because 1) It makes Zuckerberg's incompetence even funnier , and 2) it means that massive corporations like Meta, Apple, and every ISP on the planet haven’t stuck their greedy fingers into it and monetized it. Let the people quietly build their own alternative reality while the billionaires, in their blind hubris and greed, repeatedly trip over themselves and each other.

    • @zero.Identity
      @zero.Identity Před rokem +26

      i bet with you in a few years if something like a monetized metaverse becomes a thing somehow, VRchat will be like this free to use, way better alternative somehow most dont really know or use. like it will be like linux and windows

    • @octo5042
      @octo5042 Před rokem +3

      @@zero.Identity and then people will flood to vrchat once they realize that its the better option

    • @stanzacosmi
      @stanzacosmi Před 4 měsíci

      @@octo5042 like with linux?

  • @nikola9610
    @nikola9610 Před rokem +564

    it's funny to see that your videos are being used for training purposes about virtual reality and VR chat at the company I work for

    • @TheVirtualRealityShow
      @TheVirtualRealityShow  Před rokem +200

      No way that is SO cool to hear. Would love to know more if possible

    • @mrmexicano64
      @mrmexicano64 Před rokem +34

      @@TheVirtualRealityShow they should be paying you lul

    • @Pixel3572
      @Pixel3572 Před rokem +11

      @@mrmexicano64 I see someone didn’t pay attention to the video in the slightest

    • @mrmexicano64
      @mrmexicano64 Před rokem +3

      @@Pixel3572 what video?

    • @illliiiiillliii6265
      @illliiiiillliii6265 Před rokem +2

      Z.T.I.A.I. what video specifically. kinda intereseted in what they deem important to understand

  • @YasaiDayo
    @YasaiDayo Před rokem +747

    I have a genuine phobia or weird discomfort when I see Mark’s face 💀

    • @rekonener2362
      @rekonener2362 Před rokem

      In the first image, he looks 3D and fake...when he's supposed to be real. Legit, the man isn't human! lol~

    • @axolotlIl
      @axolotlIl Před rokem +55

      You're not alone, that dude is terrifying...

    • @JubbLaRacing
      @JubbLaRacing Před rokem +1

      He isn't even a human anymore 😳

    • @Tuntor689
      @Tuntor689 Před rokem +60

      the uncanny valley

    • @Cyromantik
      @Cyromantik Před rokem +49

      Agreed. It's like when people get plastic surgery and for some bizarre reason decide to make both sides perfectly symmetrical.
      He just doesn't look human.

  • @JAYZ999
    @JAYZ999 Před rokem +375

    Even main stream gaming websites and journals completely ignore VR games and VRChat. Even though VRChat is constantly in the top 50ish played games on steam. It’s just so annoying how they’re still acting like VRChat and vr is still this completely tiny community with thousands of players not millions. It’s not a huge community, but it’s much larger than a lot of communities that get covered often.

    • @TheVirtualRealityShow
      @TheVirtualRealityShow  Před rokem +61

      Yup, I even see freaking VR JOURNALISM ignore big groundbreaking events and progress happening in VRChat... for god knows what reasons. Not all of them do this, but funny how hosting the largest VR events (IRL & In-game) gets 0 coverage a lot of times... Cmon guys.

    • @RoseMultiverse
      @RoseMultiverse Před rokem +18

      @@TheVirtualRealityShow probably because sadly they only work on commission & companies who pay them to talk about stuff. Indie community vs corporations.

    • @strayiggytv
      @strayiggytv Před rokem +19

      I'd argue they ignore it because, and I say this with love, it looks like niche weeb sh1t. I know anime is popular but it still carries with it a stigma for being for pervs and weaboos. I'm sure journalists tried VR chat, though " huh so it's just a bunch of dudes cosplaying as their waifus huh, weird."
      And I know that's not what VR chat actually is but that's the impression it gives off. It's like if you made an IMVU account and waited around in hangout you'd think the only people who use it are teens who want to look like SoundCloud rappers.

    • @georgecy5937
      @georgecy5937 Před rokem +13

      @@strayiggytv True, but as I said in my main comment, There's some Journalists I have experienced that Have properly checked out the Metaverse and did Masterpiece coverages that beats all of other journalists and that would be "People Make Games", and actually a Dutch Journalist that actually offered interviews especially in VRChat and I appreciate him for that because after talking with him in my interview, He did his research for Good!
      But unfortunately those Journalists usually aren't top media so it's really, really too bad
      I had hopes for WSJ because one of the journalists does a Great job for covering Apple but it seems like certainly not for the metaverse, not this time...

    • @JAYZ999
      @JAYZ999 Před rokem +3

      @@strayiggytv I agree that VRChat doesn’t give a good first impression at all. And only people that stick around for find what’s beneath the surface.
      But you’d expect them to maybe get in touch with someone from the community like PHIA to help them understand VRChat and write an article about. A “game” that was released like 6 years ago and has consistently been in the top played games on steam, and people still have absolutely no idea what it’s about or what’s in it because the most coverage it gets is “look at this funny meme in VRChat”. So many communities to report on that would blow people’s minds (that blew my mind before I joined). Like ppl have 0 idea street dance and IDA exist in VRChat, imagine a report showing the IDA and people break dancing, cyphering, and battling in VR.
      Or at the very least, report on and review more VR games/Quest accessories etc. Like the steam deck has sold more than 1 million, and quest 2 has sold somewhere around 10-15 million, but the deck gets a lot of coverage and the quest is dismissed as this toy only 20 people use. Same with PC indie games vs quest games. With time things will improve but that’s how I see it for now though.

  • @Okinoth
    @Okinoth Před rokem +184

    I basically grew up on second life among other online social platforms and the idea that online spaces are a new thing genuinely makes me mad. The people I met online gave me guidance and info on how to navigate a life as a kid with no parental support, I owe those virtual friends so much, and these corporate grifters act as though these communities never existed

  • @JonathanBarouch
    @JonathanBarouch Před rokem +62

    Like you said, it's all about money. Billionaires don't know how to exploit people in VR Chat so they ignore/demonize it as much as possible

  • @marcuscarana9240
    @marcuscarana9240 Před rokem +244

    Anybody noticed how in VR Chat, NO ONE ever wants to be an avatar that look like themselves im real life. They always try an avatar they would like to be so the fact that Mark Zuckerberg is pushing for avatars that look like the user irl just shows how out of touch, tone deaf and unaware Zuck is when it comes to virtual reality.

    • @theInsaneRodent
      @theInsaneRodent Před rokem +60

      I like to say that one of the cool things about VRChat is that if you want to you *can* identify as an attack helicopter.

    • @marcuscarana9240
      @marcuscarana9240 Před rokem +47

      @@theInsaneRodent Right? The reality is, is that people are going to choose to be an attack helicopter or a ferret with a toilet paper necklace before ever choosing an avatar that looks like them irl. The fact that Mark was focusing on giving avatars cochlear implants and wheelchairs for "inclusivity" was just so out of touch.

    • @SincerestSawa
      @SincerestSawa Před rokem +8

      Not true, I have multiple friends that aim to represent their actual selves in vr, I've even made a low poly version based on a friend's picture

    • @KingDetonation
      @KingDetonation Před rokem +29

      @@SincerestSawa you sir just described the textbook definition of the saying "you are the exception, NOT THE RULE"

    • @Kkurasmoon
      @Kkurasmoon Před rokem

      i always try to get avatars that are like me all the time so people wouldn't say this to me

  • @jacobwind2367
    @jacobwind2367 Před rokem +282

    She's so right about people being able to grow in this game, I was miserable during COVID until I got this game and was able to talk to people. It's a community game and everything I expected the metaverse to be.

    • @ecogreen123
      @ecogreen123 Před rokem +14

      it's what the metaverse is, because it is the True Metaverse, not that stupid facebook 'metaverse'

    • @no3ironman11100
      @no3ironman11100 Před rokem

      Don't listen to her VRChat has had it's share of controversies. Don't get suckered in by shit companies. Do people forget what they did to VRchat mods ?

    • @emberdragon4248
      @emberdragon4248 Před rokem +2

      ​@@ecogreen123
      Mark: spends 10 billion dollars on a 5 polygon eiffel tower
      "tHiS iS tHe fUtUrE guYs"

    • @christianedwards9025
      @christianedwards9025 Před rokem +1

      I want to play VR minecraft, only reason I haven't invested is because I'm afraid of crapping Mt pants if a creeper actually realistically scares me. I remember when their AI was so bad you could lead them into a pit of open lava. Now those pickle men are mini stealth bombers.

  • @HiyuMarten
    @HiyuMarten Před rokem +38

    Meta can't fathom that VR isn't about where you can go, or what you can do there: It's about WHO you can BE.
    It's a place where people can come to terms with their inner selves, in a place that withholds judgement. That's terrifying to them.

  • @StrikerV3
    @StrikerV3 Před rokem +90

    My confidence in speaking with total strangers has increased so much after joining vrc years ago. It can really help you overcome social problems you struggle with irl just because it forces you into such random and crazy situations that talking to a regular human irl is just. Ez.

    • @katiarepublic7057
      @katiarepublic7057 Před rokem +5

      I’m happy to hear it’s helped other people, too! I’ve got automatonophobia, meaning humanoid things like statues and mannequins scare me an irrational amount! I couldn’t even play the SuperHot demo without panicking, unfortunately. Since playing VRChat though I’ve gotten used to it a lot more! It’s not totally gone, but it’s way more manageable and I’m less scared!

  • @kildozer2012
    @kildozer2012 Před rokem +680

    VRChat is such an amazing platform once you get a small group of people that you know but even just world hopping to explore or find new friends in itself is such an experience that is really hard to describe.
    I'm 28 and partially disabled physically and can't get out much or leave my bed for much more than 3-4 hours a day but VRChat gives me back my sense of freedom, I was never really sociable before but I've sorta broken out of my shell and have a fairly wholesome group of people that I can proudly call friends.
    With just shy of 3K hours (including sleeping in VR) I can confidently say that VRC needs more mainstream media attention, not someone that poses as a child literally looking for predators because yes, in every society there will be a few, that won't just change any time soon but instead we need them to shed light on the positives, show them that people like me can find happiness and sense of freedom, show that you can literally find love in VRC, I've met multiple people that were in relationships brought on by meeting in VRC and I think that's truly beautiful!

    • @genybr
      @genybr Před rokem +10

      I'm socially awkward person, so I will agree with you but only partially.
      Some runs are finished with "welp, I'm worst person that can't find anyone to talk.
      Except that - completely agree

    • @hannesRSA
      @hannesRSA Před rokem +3

      Seems too scary to join. I just play beatsaber. But too unfit. Nearly #10'000 though, it's ok for an old guy.

    • @genybr
      @genybr Před rokem +4

      @@hannesRSA Well, at least you may use it in a tourist way.
      Some worlds are truely fascinating!

    • @AzureLupine
      @AzureLupine Před rokem +7

      As ass backwards as it sounds, if you want a good time in VR chat, ask the furries. When your whole life is based on pretending you're something else, they've got a pretty decent handle on what you'd like if you tell them what worlds you're looking for. Mini golf, movies with friends, horror maps, even more or less virtual discovery zone or whatever your crawling around in tubes place was when you were little was called. They're weird but usually in a fun sort of way and probably felt just as awkward as you first getting into it.

    • @cloudynguyen6527
      @cloudynguyen6527 Před rokem +6

      @@AzureLupine society no matter online or offline will always have stigma against one group of people. Furries to me is example of that. Whenever you heard about them, people purposefully tell bad story about them. It's really comical to me people bring up Rainfurrest whenever they heard or even "suspect" me being a furry (cause I said I have no problem with them). So I try to double down by saying there are countless gender reveal parties that kill people. A party of animal in fursuit doing wild thing is weird but it should be less of your concern.
      About that social stigma I mentioned. I live in a country somewhat conservative in culture. I would never let anyone know I draw NSFW. It would affect my family, friend and work relationship. Even online I have to find a group of people that are comfortable with what I draw. So I understand and respect these people a lot. Drawing NSFW is a mild stigma and some will tolerate you. But being a furry is a huge stigma and rarely anyone outside the community will treat you normal, let alone treat with respect.

  • @ThrillSeekerVR
    @ThrillSeekerVR Před rokem +639

    Congrats on 200k, can’t wait to see how much further you go!

  • @thefoundation3489
    @thefoundation3489 Před rokem +16

    VRChat: lets people look like whatever they want (and have legs)
    SAO: one of the bad / scary things is that your avatar is forced to look like your real life counterpart
    Mark Zuckerburg: let's make everyone look like they do irl, great idea, what could go wrong

    • @paigelux4819
      @paigelux4819 Před rokem

      At least you don't die if you die in game

  • @saidasaetgar3370
    @saidasaetgar3370 Před rokem +142

    VRchat was my fave metaverse for years (since 2017). The level of creativity there has been consistently mind blowing and I still believe it has the most imaginative worlds and avatars! However, since Oculus Quest 2 release, things started to change for the worse because of unprecedented number of young kids. It’s almost impossible to meet anyone older than 18, and as a 30 year old, I’d ideally prefer folks in the age range 25+😢 Very young children are constantly getting exposed to content they are not supposed to. Recently, I went to adult content world with my bf, and I kid you not, 7 out of 10 people we’ve stumbled upon were clearly in the age range 7-11! It’s just so creepy😬 How’s that even allowed?

    • @NickCorbinOfficial
      @NickCorbinOfficial Před rokem +37

      It's like that in pretty much every Quest 2 game now. One of the reasons I stopped consistently playing Onward, a military war game, is all the children screaming and fragging their own team. Technically...Meta just announced that all players below aged 13 are not allowed, but I really don't know how they can enforce that. I think the big problem are irresponsible parents who are like, "sure, Timmy, put on this VR headset and interact with strangers!"

    • @Valcuda
      @Valcuda Před rokem +16

      I fully agree.
      I'm only 18, but those kids are so annoying. I just want to meet some nice people to hang out with, but just all children.
      The among us map is unplayable if you're not with a pre-selected group! Nobody listens to anything, people use all avatars to cheat, etc!
      I've had 1 good experience with that map! And that was when I was blessed with an instance without any children.

    • @Sanquinity
      @Sanquinity Před rokem +8

      35 year old here. So glad I started playing before the quest 2 was a thing. Even before it was announced. Making older friends was so much easier back then. Sure there were still little kids, but they were like 20% of the players, not 50%+. Most people I met were at least 15+ Still not exactly an adult, but at least not an 8~10 year old either. I saw how the Quest 2 changed the playerbase. How the influx of kids pretty much...ruined public worlds all together. They've recovered a little bit, but it's still far worse than it used to be. I used to be able to go to the popular worlds like The Black Cat or Midnight Rooftop and find at least one group of older/more mature people chilling in any instance, if not several. Now I consider it lucky if I find 1 adult every few instances. Since the ones that do still play mostly keep to friends+ or private worlds.
      I consider myself blessed that, despite some setbacks and falling outs with past friends in the game, I have 10 or so friends that are 20+, most even being 25+. We all don't play super often. Maybe 2~3 times a week for a few hours. But it definitely makes the experience a lot better if you have mature friends, even when you're in a public.

    • @agungredking9160
      @agungredking9160 Před rokem +5

      Just avoid crowded world like black cat or great pug. Go to the less crowded world with only few people in it. Believe me, you gonna have much better experience.

    • @pink_sky_morning4842
      @pink_sky_morning4842 Před rokem +6

      As a younger player on Meta Quest 2 (i promise I’m not a mean person I swear to god I am not rude,) I absolutely hate being near the little kiddies. I have never heard such vulgar children in my entire life! To quote a person I once met, “I wish elementary school kids would go back to being elementary school kids.” I wish they enforced their 13+ policy. Also, why isn’t vote kicking a proper feature? Some of my other friends can votekick but I cannot because the conditions aren’t filled? What conditions? Also, those same little kids are being exposed to avatars that just straight up expose the avatar’s gender allocated genitalia. Surprised nobody has talked about it so far.

  • @wombatcountry
    @wombatcountry Před rokem +244

    at first, I was terrified that Meta and web3 would ruin things like vrchat for the mainstream masses or get the whole thing taken down and I would never get to see this magically weird world to the point where I wanted to throw up, but then I made it to the end of the video when you said "crypto is crashing, meta is laying off employees, and yet, vrchat's player count is growing" and I began to simmer down and feel relieved.

    • @3polygons
      @3polygons Před rokem +9

      Crypto and NFTs had just a savage "birth" (not really, they had been around many years, but all of a sudden got too much hype, and NFTs got to be known in mainstream). But are far from dead for good. These things will just evolve to much more sensible forms. I mean, they will become actually useful, and surely with a lot less (or at all) of the crap they showed till recently. Not so much anymore as there's not much money to make there: the interested ppl now on them are the ones before the big moment. People that just like that technology (I'm not one of them), or more experienced in crypto trading, who know it will bounce back, just never as dominant as it was for a year. And I did see Meta , with mark's resources, like sth that could end up dominating the scene, but like with NFTs, marketers, investors CEOs, and everyone in the middle just are often not capable to see the real people's habits and trends. IMO, it was too soon for what both NFTs and Meta people tried to do.

    • @BusinessWolf1
      @BusinessWolf1 Před rokem +1

      nah meta is not just "laying off employees", they're laying off 11.000 employees

    • @3polygons
      @3polygons Před rokem

      ​@House Mouse Main Interesting... Undermine your enemy if your product is worse... I guess you mean they were trying to do that ? Well, it is a possibility, it is a known tactic... We've seeing dirty campaigns like that very often... 'farms' 24/7 throwing fake news about whatever, companies dedicated to that... "studies" paid (this has been revealed, is not conspiracy stuff) by big oil companies to undermine the scientific facts about global warming... I don't think your theory is crazy (we have no solid proof, but makes a lot of sense, too many coincidences).
      The Horizon's characters not having legs... I doubt it'd be for not having good enough (money gets everything) coders or 3D artists, but maybe due to expecting initially most people (which imo is the key of VR not becoming mainstream) not having the device or at least not having full body tracking (not saying it makes sense, but might be what they thought...). And the issue of VRC... I say it as an external observer, but in every big youtube channel that despite having a somewhat big audience, ends up having tons of problems with YT strikes, problems (YT heavily fights against channels way too much in "the edge", as it needs the advertisers, brands' money) and sponsors not willing to sign contracts with the channel is when the content is risky, edgy. It applies here. As it is a space not heavily moderated/protected, and human nature is what it is (no matter u and me behave in a civil way: a few weirdos, pervs and trolls wreck it for the average Jane and Joe)... brands not willing to put a foot in there...
      So, it would rarely become the massive social media that it could be already. IMO, once it gets some solid way at least of protecting the general mass of newcomers (like the protecting "bubble" for newbies many game servers create for the first weeks in certain games), the mainstream masses, from the sexual, etc stuff, it _then_ can _easily_ become a total success. But not the way Mark Z really wanted, which is to become THE place for professional and business activity, heavily utilizing NFT tech and its promised (now fully failed) income, plus becoming _the_ standard way to go to social media for the masses, that's why also the name change (as "Facebook" is linked for ever to the privacy fiasco in people's minds, and also to being a dated platform, even in the UI), imo the name change was not only for playing with the multiverse concept.
      And so imposing over the other social media platforms. IMO this being the main reason why FB/Meta bought instagram and whatsapp. FB has been losing the throne for years (and IMO tiktok and YT are winning now by KO, instagram in a _distant_ third place, twitter having a super weird, terrible moment, and marked as a toxic platform by many)...
      He was in my opinion ambitious like that, till that point, I mean, he had that dream. I believe he wasn't being realistic neither was able to "read the room" of how people adapt to these things (slowly and in a very hard to predict way, depending on context, what the people really wants/feels, the economy, etc), at least the big mass of the public. The signal loss in the ads, related to the failure of cookies in the near future (browsers I think are gonna deprecate third party cookies!! this is *BIG* ), tiktok non predicted _huge_ effect, all platforms blatantly copying its model... means that people, thirsty for content more than ever, for fresh takes, and also way less tolerant to bullsh1t, means they are going by another path and most marketers have been missing it, not really catching up (now... they are, partially).
      I see it complex that VRC, for all what I am reading about it, would stop being "indie". It would need that "control" in place, protecting the normies, for the brands and investors/big companies to start putting money and big media efforts on it. And... while is very cool that it is indie, the fear here is that when the community grows by itself, but not clear ROI is in place, the servers increasing costs as the mass grow.... end up not being sustainable. This has happened to huge platforms (remember, CZcams had to be bought by Google, as was losing heaps of money, and was the only giant that could afford it) , but also famous and loved games.

    • @Tharmin.124
      @Tharmin.124 Před rokem +3

      As soon as I can I’m joining VRChat, because why not lol

    • @EvoliPlays
      @EvoliPlays Před rokem +1

      @@Tharmin.124 just do it, you don't even need a VR headset

  • @Datdus92
    @Datdus92 Před rokem +84

    I think what people forget is that VRchat also caters to people playing on a 2d screen. This way, they can interact with the 'the metaverse' in a way they are already familiar with and then make the jump to VR once they feel like it.

    • @Valcuda
      @Valcuda Před rokem +1

      This!
      Before I got a Quest 2, I thought VRchat was some weird app, that only weirdos used.
      But I played it a bit on Windows, and I realized it was just a place to have fun.
      VRChat was the first thing I played on my Quest 2! With Metas "First steps" app being the second.
      The Metaverse shouldn't be exclusive to VR, it should definitely focus on it, but let people experience it without needing to take a leap of faith first!

    • @typehere6689
      @typehere6689 Před rokem

      I insist on only starting once I get a full body tracking setup.

  • @docopoper
    @docopoper Před rokem +14

    As a Millennial I love how it always feels like Millennials and Gen Z are a pair of fist bumping siblings complaining about how much our parents screwed us over. I feel like I must protecc this other generation.

  • @birdflox1337
    @birdflox1337 Před rokem +13

    honestly, as sad as it can sometimes seem that VR Chat doesn't get the recognition it deserves, maybe it's best it isn't mainstream. I imagine things like copyright rules would need to get much more strict.

  • @Lieliiiii
    @Lieliiiii Před rokem +131

    I dont know why but after the whole explanation and story just ending it with "this is not the future this is now." had me in tears. i love vr so much..

  • @Metrikon9000
    @Metrikon9000 Před rokem +92

    I was beginning to worry that you weren't going to touch on the monetization aspect of Meta, but as soon as you said "Money, money, money" I realized you got it. It's the reason I am so fearful of the future, because if everything is monetized even in a digital space, people without a large amount of disposable income like myself will gradually find themselves forced out of their favorite hobbies. I'm already starting to feel that with video games. I'm an older millennial in my late 30s, and I've been playing video games my whole life. Since the early days of Atari and Nintendo, to the rise of my favorite drug of choice, MMORPGs, I've seen a gradual increase in the monetization of digital goods that feels...just plain wrong. This is especially true with F2P or Gacha games, because they market them as free but you end up spending more money just to enjoy the experience at a reasonable pace. My last bastion at the moment is FFXIV, but who knows how long that will last? Square Enix has jumped on the NFT bandwagon, so I'm afraid that some day soon the nickel and dime monetization will start creeping in. I'm starting to think that I need to drag out the Oculus Rift that currently sits in a drawer at the bottom of my file cabinet and dive into VRChat. Maybe that will be my new escape from reality.

    • @Eudaletism
      @Eudaletism Před rokem +3

      Yeah, the behavior goes completely against the spirit of the internet. Imagine if you had to pay to copy a file, or to spread a meme. If copyright were actually enforced, I mean, really enforced, there would be no memes, because you'd have to get permission from the original meme creator in order to spread it. Like 99% of internet culture exists because information is treated as a shared, community resource by default (with some exceptions to create incentives for artists of course). Information is fundamentally post-scarcity, and the metaverse should be post-scarcity. Everyone can have their own mansion. Locking it down, making people buy land and digital furniture, might make sense in a game, where you opt in to scarcity for fun, but the top level needs to be like minecraft creative mode, completely open and free as in freedom.

  • @thejman3489
    @thejman3489 Před rokem +9

    When I first got a VR headset, playing simple game like "The Lab" and "Space Pirate Trainer" were absolutely mind boggling to me. The immersion and the accuracy and speed of the tracking was very impressive. It was no longer pushing buttons on a controller and watching a screen. It was now mimicking the action of pulling back a bow, holding it to your face, and seeing the arrow fly in whatever direction you were pointing the controllers. It was shooting at robots flying in the sky and dodging lasers with your whole body in slow motion when they return fire. I was genuinely terrified when anything was flying at me, subconsciously thinking it's going to hit me in real life. You are not just controlling a character in a game anymore. You are the character in that game. And taking the headset off after a few hours honestly takes some getting used to.

  • @katiena1251
    @katiena1251 Před rokem +32

    I never been in VRchat, but I knew about it. I think most gamers know about it. Second life was a big deal it when it came out too. It's why I laughed so hard when I saw the models for the Medverse.

  • @norsehawk
    @norsehawk Před rokem +555

    I'm Phia's dad's generation, during the lockdown, I got into vrchat to deal with not meeting people face to face anymore, ended up becoming a furry, and started making my own avatars and making them for others.

    • @Cyromantik
      @Cyromantik Před rokem +73

      That's really cool! In Zuckerberg's 'verse you'd never have had that level of customization and opportunity for self-discovery and entrepreneurship!

    • @LakeofCrystalclan
      @LakeofCrystalclan Před rokem +47

      Absolutely based. Godspeed, my guy

    • @gamingmitnoahd4036
      @gamingmitnoahd4036 Před rokem +27

      Hi @norsehawk most people from your age also dont understand what furrys are, the same whit the "metaverse" they hear "furrys are zoophiles!" Or "Vr is bad" and never try both. but you tried somthing new and found an new hobby an an new community. I wish more people would be like you and dont care about the bad press and try new things. I really wish you the best!

    • @norsehawk
      @norsehawk Před rokem +21

      @@gamingmitnoahd4036 to quote something from when I was growing up, " I don't want to grow up, I'm a Toys R Us kid..."

    • @froddobaggins
      @froddobaggins Před rokem +3

      oh no

  • @billothekid
    @billothekid Před rokem +139

    I love that you got your dad to do an interview! As a guy in his late 30's, I sometimes feel a bit out of place in things like VRChat. As such, I often explore worlds in private instances, which could sound a little sad if the worlds weren't so incredible. My point is, somebody needs to show "journalists" how amazing these places can be without all the culture that might exist around public worlds.

    • @underflip2
      @underflip2 Před rokem +12

      I’m 40+ loving nej g a female avatar. Don’t feel weird there are amazing people in vrc that will be friendly no matter what you want to be. I felt the same thing as you until I found people just like me. 👍🏻

    • @3polygons
      @3polygons Před rokem +8

      Imagine a guy being 50.... but I don't care... I have accounts and activity on Discord, Twitch, Reddit, Instagram, Tumblr and whatever... VR not so much as I get dizzy... That and due to having very little time available, often. But the not so nerd of my generation... many of those don't even know what Discord, Twitch or Reddit are, let alone VRC. VR yep, _very_ vaguely.
      I might try VRC for art making matters, like, might try to upload 3D that I make, to see how it goes.

    • @blitzrigen
      @blitzrigen Před rokem +10

      @@SkeleTonHammer What does being a straight edge and being a far left extremist have to do with anything vr related? Its not even all about anime, thats just what most ppl like to look like in the game. There are thousands of avatars you can be. Also the VRChat community is pretty damn aware of how niche and clique-ish they CAN be. Thats why if you talk to someone who does play vrchat you will hear some complaints about public worlds being so random and toxic. But if you ever go in with a friend just exploring the worlds available to you it can be such an amazing time. Like looking through an art museum that is all free and available to view and play in. Its already growing and it has a foot hold, there is only so long that the mainstream media can ignore it as it grows and grows.
      VRChat is just a place where you can hangout with anyone anywhere in the world and well chat. Politics only place in vrchat is only in that one conversation between you and another person, nowhere else. What you do in the game is up to you in a true literal sense. You could be yourself or someone else or something else or hell even an exaggerated version of yourself and just let loose and have fun. Its not the elephant in the room we cant talk about, its the elephant in the room we are talking about with others trying to make us stop.
      But what do I know, for all of this I could just be talking to a skele-ton with a hammer who is 36 years old who includes politics in a non-political discussion. (To be fully honest that sounds like a hilarious avatar/character someone could be in vrchat. Imagine a random skeleton with a hammer just walks into a bar and starts spouting stuff about random politics, like that alone could be bloody brilliant lmao)

    • @JHess
      @JHess Před rokem +4

      @@SkeleTonHammer you, my young friend, have a lot of growing up to do. talk to us again when you're in your 50s.....

    • @underflip2
      @underflip2 Před rokem

      @@SkeleTonHammer haha non of the people in my friends group is even close to being far left extremist so I don't know what people you have met. Its sertanly not for everybody but most people kan find something they like in there. Vrchat is much more than anime. We have all sorts of people in out group.

  • @besknighter
    @besknighter Před rokem +20

    You got the nail in the head with this video. The internet is what it is now because, in the beginning, people just wanted to create amazing stuff. The money wasn't an after thought. It wasn't thought about at all. It just happened to came along later.
    We need the majority of those pushing the envelope of the metaverse forward to do the same. If we don't focus on building cool and amazing stuff, this is gonna crash and burn. And fast.

  • @hello.ily.wytmyn
    @hello.ily.wytmyn Před rokem +12

    “This is not the future. This is now” absolutely love this. It’s always the ones who are the most out of touch with the current world that makes the decisions for us, so they spend time on things that are already here. Remember when they tried to make a “new” virtual artist named Polar and expected them to be popular? Did they seriously forgot when Gorillaz boomed during the 2000’s? 2d could go to Elton John and be like, “Ello Elton Jawn yu wan to do a lil collab?” And Elton would be like, “Fuck yes 2d I would love to,” i could go in-depth on how connected gorillaz is to the real life music industry, but the point is, they’ve already completed the goal of connecting the virtual world to reality and people are just ignoring that.
    This connect has been naturally growing every year without the help of big corporations pushing on it. The rise of Vtubers was not made from the aid of Zucky boy’s metaverse. The best way the “metaverse” can evolve is if it progresses slowly and naturally. But it’s potential is so huge, big corporations want it immediately and fast as possible. The metaverse should not feel like a business venture, it should feel like a connect.

  • @LoreliaDeMildiane
    @LoreliaDeMildiane Před rokem +77

    Really happy to see someone tackle that subject! It's so frustrating to see VRChat being ignored again and again :(

    • @ndfdm5705
      @ndfdm5705 Před rokem +3

      I don't even use vr chat - I have used vr. It's fucking fantastic. Legit the future of media. One hour of playing killing floor in vr is worth ten playing it on pc in sheer fun factor-
      and everytime I've seen meta-verse come up my brain kept going "Oh, like, VR chat but worse and moderated by stiffs that actively made the internet worse?"

  • @JaylaLuv
    @JaylaLuv Před rokem +153

    This was nicely said, and your dad's point was absolutely right. I hope VR Chat in the near future isn't underestimated and instead grows even more as it is now.

    • @gergom.8310
      @gergom.8310 Před rokem +3

      We can still hope. Discord was made in 2015 but went really viral and mainstream in the 2020s.

  • @Nimagia
    @Nimagia Před rokem +27

    I really hope this video goes viral or at least viewed by more mainstream media. Really would do VR and VRchat a service.

  • @clearcrossroads
    @clearcrossroads Před rokem +6

    My mother (aged 60) was horrified when I got my Quest 2 a few months ago. She covered her mouth, audibly gasped, and unironically said that it's evil, that it's mind control, that its explicit goal is to destroy life, and that it will steal my soul. She said the reason it's called Meta is because they want to destroy reality and replace it with death, lies, deceit, illusions, and "their own script", I think she said. I tried to explain to her that it's called Meta because it's a reality inside a reality, and she said I didn't know what I was talking about; that "she's done her research." She said that she's, quote, "terrified that it's infiltrated her home". Meanwhile, she's EXTREMELY agoraphobic, and consequently hasn't left the apartment in YEARS, but her biggest interests are nature and survivalism. She refuses to even consider the notion that this thing could do any kind of good for her at all, let alone prove to be therapeutic or cathartic in any way, and she staunchly refuses to try it. It's the kind of sad that's arguably pushing into tragic.

  • @turmations5556
    @turmations5556 Před rokem +35

    One problem with the idea of entering vrchat, posing as a 13 y/o, and investigating it is looking for trouble, but not experiencing the true feel for the game. Looking for what is fun in something is different than looking for all the problems

  • @dropdedgothish
    @dropdedgothish Před rokem +67

    That part with your dad was really cool! it's nice to hear what older people think about it, who've tried VR chat and enjoyed it!

    • @3polygons
      @3polygons Před rokem +1

      Most people _I know_ of my generation (50), - being from a 1st world EU country-, have at some point tried an VR device, but don't even know what VR Chat is (I myself am not a VR user, I've dug about the matter, only).

    • @nara4420
      @nara4420 Před rokem +4

      @@3polygons just do it !
      I am 58 and already more than 2 years in VRChat. It changed my life to the better. And i can say it is great how welcoming most communities are in VRChat. Most people are younger, but there are quite some in my age and even older.

    • @3polygons
      @3polygons Před rokem

      @@nara4420 Thank you! That's great to know! :)

  • @nomanga
    @nomanga Před rokem +10

    Wow I wasn't even interested in this topic before and honestly didn't even really know it existed, but I somehow watched the entire video and now I'm actually curious. Great video, honestly.

  • @HakuFromVR
    @HakuFromVR Před rokem +8

    You know what? this channel is what people need to realise what is going on in the true virtual reality.
    Spending most of my free time in these virtual worlds in VR Chat, now means a lot to me. Turns out that I had meet awesome people, beautiful talents.
    All of this virtual universe made me learn so much that i got addicted to it.
    I've been having so much fun, so much adventures, even tho i'm in the safety of my living room.
    Feels awesome to be who I really am, where i really want to be.

  • @justacrusaderguy3320
    @justacrusaderguy3320 Před rokem +5

    My great-grandmother found out about VRChat, and she asked me, "Why are there people dressed up as "cartoon characters," and I don't know what to tell her.

  • @ZajVR
    @ZajVR Před rokem +27

    I really loved this video, speaking as someone that's born in 1982 and active player of VRChat, you've really grasped the importance of this game, and I'm so happy that we got so many new people coming in that are within your age and totally getting on board with this! I've been playing VRC since 2018, and I won't stop anytime soon! Great video

  • @sassysora1435
    @sassysora1435 Před rokem +17

    "It's not the future, it's the now and it's beautiful."
    That line hit me harder than a bowling ball to the head. That was beautiful!

  • @certainlystormy
    @certainlystormy Před rokem +8

    i found this channel just now and i absolutely love it. theres so much effort put into every part of it, and the camerawork inside vrchat too is so cool. tbh i think im gonna cry

  • @roseroseroserose
    @roseroseroserose Před rokem +20

    With countless hours spent practically entirely living in VRChat, it was a major factor in me finding my identity and community; the creative and limitless freedom, countless experiences in beautiful worlds, and living a life that I could only dream of is what blossomed my love for VR from when I first learned of the CV1 and Vive.
    The commodification of the "Metaverse" has been heartbreaking to say the least. Especially when entrepreneurs only see these spaces as a generator of revenue, it's painful to watch them ignore the talents of the creatives who shaped social VR platforms into what they are, the ones who never cared about the money but rather cared for the other people in this shared space.
    All of these new Web3, Metaverse, and NFT endeavors have a complete lack of love or passion behind them, only the dreams of making it big from outsiders who'll throw it all away once it's not sustainable for their income demands.

  • @biadzok4573
    @biadzok4573 Před rokem +62

    Probably the one video about vrchat I'd like to see go viral because of how well you explain what vrchat is.

  • @BurstupTV
    @BurstupTV Před rokem +5

    Yeah, it's mind-boggling. VRChat has such a vibrant and diverse culture, amazing avatars and maps, full body tracking, facial tracking.... and yet it's largely ignored by Zuck, by news media etc. But what can I say, I've been in user-generated virtual worlds for 20 years now. Second Life, Open Simulator... and they have ignored those, too. We didn't have VR headsets back then, but 15 years ago I used SL on a large canvas with a video projector, and that was virtual reality for us, and we used to call Second Life the "metaverse" sometimes. Anyways... VRChat (and Neos and Chillout) are great today (and SL is still good, too), and their communites will stay on the cutting edge of this development.

  • @TheThorns
    @TheThorns Před rokem +3

    seeing the penguin playing chess and looking at the camera made me bust up laughing for some reason.

  • @nara4420
    @nara4420 Před rokem +6

    You're absolutely right !
    But what if VRChat becomes known to all that big companies ?
    It scares me what can happen when the big money kicks in, brings regulations and ends the freedom.
    We have seen Neos and the crypto-story, and the death of plugins in VRChat ... sometimes i think it's better when they ignore VRC.

  • @mirichiivr
    @mirichiivr Před rokem +28

    I love how you broke down what I feel like a lot of us have been thinking! Always found it interesting how VRC isn't talked about very much in mainstream media when it seemed like one of the most creative and immersive places to me?? Super sweet and cool that you got your dad's perspective!! Well made video! ^.^

  • @stratum42
    @stratum42 Před rokem +4

    First time I've seen one of your videos and it's well done. You have an open and honest outlook. Much like your Dad, I'm also a 40-something father who grew up in arcades. I also became a fan of alternate realities and the Cyberpunk genre in the 80s, still am. Although I own around 120 VR titles I've never jumped into VR Chat yet, but I know those who have. In my opinion, for what that's worth as an older guy who dreamed of Ready Player One since I was a kid, VR Chat is the closest thing we have right now. And if it doesn't lead us there, it will be one of the early examples others stand on the shoulders of. Those reviewers also ignore the social connections we get playing games online where I myself have played with the same people for over a decade. If anything, THAT is what will get people to want to live in VR much as it has done for other games like World of Warcraft.

  • @rowankrencik
    @rowankrencik Před rokem +6

    So im a furry and an ASL student with a ton of friends in VRChat. I've learned a second language that I'm choosing to make the rest of my life devoted to, and I absolutely love the communities and friend groups I'm associated with.
    This game has made me more humble, and opened my eyes to realities I'd never even considered to be real for others...
    The Deaf community in vrc has taught me well, and honestly I don't think I've played any other game more than this one.

  • @hunterx2210
    @hunterx2210 Před rokem +71

    I hope this helps parent understand that social platform exist in VR and they should monitor their children to guide them.

  • @dextermorris7096
    @dextermorris7096 Před rokem +19

    We need more of your dad, such a sweet soul!

  • @blindlight
    @blindlight Před rokem +2

    one thing i worry about a lot is that what makes vrc so good is it's where creators go to make stuff for other creators-- the level of knowledge and talent is just so high-- but im not sure theres a way to scale that up without the vast majority of users becoming just passive consumers of experiences. the most important thing from my perspective is education about how to create 3d environments and characters-- making your own experience needs to be a fundamental right and skill, so that people will more accurately judge the value of the mass of digital cosmetics being thrown at them in the future mainstream platforms. we already forgot how to make our own websites and thats part of what made web2.0 end up so centralized

  • @apple_m2_delight
    @apple_m2_delight Před rokem +2

    Fun fact: metaverse has already exists since the 80s with quantum link for commodore 64. Quantum link for those who don't know is an isp service for your commodore 64.
    It is the predecessor to AOL (America online) and it gives you the ability to not only chat with other commodore 64 users but also play around with basically a proto metaverse.
    Quantum link was made public from 1985. That just shows you how old metaverse is

  • @chyadosensei
    @chyadosensei Před rokem +18

    Japan has shown a lot of VRChat in the news and during talks shows here recently. Lots of love for what the game is here 💞

    • @chyadosensei
      @chyadosensei Před rokem +1

      @@SkeleTonHammer I don't know about niche considering during vket they have multi-million dollar companies investing in ads during the event.

    • @AzaiaMonota
      @AzaiaMonota Před rokem +6

      @@SkeleTonHammer VRChat is currently the 26th most active game on Steam beating out games like Elden Ring, Elder Scrolls, Fallout, RDR2, FIFA, and FF14, calling VRChat anything but a massive mainstream success would be a false statement

    • @Vysair
      @Vysair Před rokem +1

      @@AzaiaMonota Not to mention, it's probably the biggest in VR

  • @baroquedub
    @baroquedub Před rokem +7

    Another way to frame this is to think about it in terms of mainstream vs counterculture. There are plenty of older people who get VR, who spend time in the VRChat and who understand the true potential of Neal Stephenson's metaverse. Throughout the ages these people have been artists, musicians, punks, ravers, hippies and people like you and me, regardless of age, who cherish self-expression. As you so rightly say in your video, the mainstream doesn't understand that sense of total freedom, it finds it scary and it's only ever going to demonise those who stray from the norm. I hate to be the 53 year old wise arse who says this but it was ever thus. It's nothing to do with technology, and it's nothing new. It's just that constant battle between those who like the world to be safe and predictable, where everyone tows the line and does as they're told, versus those who don't. I'm so glad people like you are around to keep that fight going. As the song goes, the kids are alright :)

    • @baroquedub
      @baroquedub Před rokem

      @@SkeleTonHammer For me, VRChat is what you make it. I'm not really someone who likes to join in any kind of clique and I just steer clear of those worlds. Same as in the real world, at my age I'd feel a bit weird raving with a bunch of teens. I initially didn't find what I wanted so I made my own, and then a few people happened to come by and visit and I made a few new online friends who shared my interests. All good.

  • @jamilgonzaga7081
    @jamilgonzaga7081 Před rokem +2

    6:38 I laughed harder than I could when it zoomed in on ugandan mickey's face LMAO
    Your coverage on this topic is spot on though! I miss VRChat dearly :c
    Also your voice is a turn on (don't pull out your pitchforks against me)

  • @TheONLYFeli0
    @TheONLYFeli0 Před rokem +5

    There is nothing want less than a virtual mirror version of our world everybody can connect into.

  • @flameknight7
    @flameknight7 Před rokem +6

    VRChat is the reason most VR users still use their headsets. It's such leagues ahead of other platforms in so many ways! New users need to be shown "da wae"

    • @paolaanimator
      @paolaanimator Před rokem

      My Quest 2 headset and I use PCVR mainly for VR Chat lol

  • @AdrianAye
    @AdrianAye Před rokem +20

    A lot of streamers are dipping their toes into VR. (Not META sponsored streams)
    Hope you guys can Collab while they have their VR headsets setup. I think they can bring attention to VR and community and can create a little boom to help keep pushing VR forward.

    • @3polygons
      @3polygons Před rokem +1

      Currently, the biggest streamers are playing VR Among US (super recent, btw). With this I mean people that easily have 20k to 40k viewers each one in any given stream!

    • @EndoftheBeginning17
      @EndoftheBeginning17 Před rokem +1

      @@3polygons And that's not just off of Twitch, big YT streamers are too.

    • @3polygons
      @3polygons Před rokem

      @@EndoftheBeginning17 Yes, indeed. :)

  • @starofaetherius
    @starofaetherius Před rokem +1

    I love the use of pokemon mystery dungeon sound track xD. Great video Phia!

  • @rager_fox8147
    @rager_fox8147 Před rokem +2

    Loved it, as someone who started playing this game during the COVID lockdowns, I must say I enjoy it very much. Wish there were older people I could hang out with in VRC, but it wouldn't be the highlight of my day. I love spending time with like minded people and I enjoy dancing in VRC. Keep up the good work ❤️

  • @neonbat666
    @neonbat666 Před rokem +38

    Even as someone who's only VRChat experience is through watching friends play, every time I see it I get this deep nostalgia for a time that never really existed.
    Perhaps it's from the sheer amount of creativity, or from seeing so many people moving around and talking and forging bonds despite being hundreds or even thousands of miles apart.

    • @Sparkz1607
      @Sparkz1607 Před rokem +4

      That time does exist, and it's *right now.*
      Social VR is a magical place. It's like being at a convention. These are your people. Your weird, wonderful people that aren't afraid to express themselves. You should join us. :)

  • @paolaanimator
    @paolaanimator Před rokem +7

    Thank you for making this video! It annoys me when the media talks about the metaverse like it's a new thing, like adding legs to avatars, and their avatars and worlds looks so bland, but VR Chat has been doing this already for so many years with beautiful worlds, great avatars that be created in Blender and uploaded for free, and plus avatars have leg tracking! I'm waiting for full body tracking to arrive in the future (Slime VR) so I'm excited.

  • @ShadyWulf
    @ShadyWulf Před rokem

    I really love how you used the PMD soundtracks throughout this video. Made me smile! ♪

  • @nyanpasu4060
    @nyanpasu4060 Před rokem

    Love your choice of music at the end. Pokemon Mystery Dungeon has "being in another world" in mind with its soundtrack and it works so well here too.

  • @tsujack
    @tsujack Před rokem +3

    10:30 looks like that Eiffel 65 blue song
    My grandpa who is old and crippled because of strokes can't really move that well and has to have help getting around outside of a scooter or wheal chair.
    Put a headset on him and show him the basic controls with just the head and hand sensors, he started crying because of the mobility.
    He couldn't switch through the world selector so I typed in a few places; In particular the planetarium.

  • @anthonyapodaca9868
    @anthonyapodaca9868 Před rokem +70

    Phia is the one person that inspired My to get my oculus quest 2

    • @MonstehDinosawr
      @MonstehDinosawr Před rokem +3

      Got my index because of her video

    • @EwokFuica
      @EwokFuica Před rokem

      Me too 🥰

    • @paolaanimator
      @paolaanimator Před rokem +1

      Thanks to Phia, GetHip and Thrillseeker I have a Quest 2 but I haven't been using it much due to combating motion sickness lol. But it's fun using it in VR Chat with PCVR.

  • @TheExecutorr
    @TheExecutorr Před rokem +4

    Even if ignoring that VR chat exists, what corporations don't understand is that I have no reason to pay money for digital land, when I can already be the god of my own world in countless video games, many of which are mulitplayer and can be modded for VR. Why the heck would I pay for something that I can have for free or at very low cost, at a better quality?

  • @inpy
    @inpy Před rokem

    That passion you express when talking about VR chat is really adorable xD
    Great video

  • @SecretHero914
    @SecretHero914 Před rokem +7

    It’s a good thing that VR chat doesn’t belong to Metaverse

  • @SecretHero914
    @SecretHero914 Před rokem +26

    Thank you Phia for being so honest with VR

  • @mochike
    @mochike Před rokem

    as a former avid vrc player who met their current partner of 10 months on the platform, i love this video. when i started playing vrc i was so, so lonely because i had just moved away from the country i spent my whole childhood in for college, with only one or two high school peers in my area, no roommates or in person classes due to covid, and my parents abroad. i wanted to make friends and socialise, but i didn't know where to start, when i discovered that vrc is playable on pc! i honestly thought vrc fell off after the whole knuckles meme thing, but i was surprised to find an extremely active playerbase with an active section of genshin fans, with whom i was looking to connect with because i was super into the game and the discord server scared me. even just on pc, it was so nice hanging around and getting to roleplay and pseudo-voice act my favourite characters and do dumb skits with random strangers. i eventually met a lovely group of folks and due to a number of different reasons i stopped visiting vrc so frequently, but i will never forget all the memories and good times i had mirror dwelling or world hopping, both on pc and on the headset. eating imaginary hotpot, watching movies, building pillow forts, gossiping during sleepovers, having a chat at the bar--all these normal things were suddenly so special and meaningful, not to mention all the magical underwater or fantastical worlds. yes, vrc has its negatives like kinda crappy admins and terrible regulations about minors and what they can be exposed to, but mostly it's a lot of cool folks who just want to socialise and have a good time.

  • @cryingsurrogate
    @cryingsurrogate Před rokem +2

    Started making an album called "Metaspace", and what do you know? A week later the word "Metaverse" gets appropriated by Zuck. Suddenly a cool name became cringe by association

  • @FrontwaysLarry
    @FrontwaysLarry Před rokem +7

    Well put, Phia. The amount of people that even just bought their kid a Quest 2 and have said to me "I tried the Metaverse, it kind of sucked." is astounding. Just shows how little they know when they say it.
    Even my own close friends admit they see a few games they want to try, but they think the "gimmick" would wear off.
    Like, for real, we don't have anywhere else to go with gaming tech other than VR and AI. We're at near photoreal gaming at 8K now. What's the point of having that technology if we can't also choose to fully immerse ourselves in those worlds?
    I'm slowly trying to change some minds, as everyone seems very big on bashing XR without even having tried it in its current state, but it's an uphill battle.
    Anyway, great video! If anything, I'm just glad that the discussion around VR is transitioning from "do we need this?" to "when will it be cool enough?"
    It's cool enough now, but media outlets keep putting up that picture of Zuckerberg in Horizon Worlds and then think that entire game represents all of VR. It hurts. Lol

  • @fin_tf2
    @fin_tf2 Před rokem +5

    You have the most gigachad dad ever. The fact he plays vrchat alone is amazing to me. It proves there really is practically no age limit to vr, except being over 13. People hate the new EAC, but I have personally seen huge change since they added it. I’ve been crashed maybe like 3 times since the EAC update, on quest. Nothing on PCVR, but that’s normal. My advice: stop complaining about EAC. If you need a hack to talk and other stuff, go around it. There is workarounds. It’s supposed to slow people down, not protect it completely.

  • @dfdefrazr
    @dfdefrazr Před rokem

    Good work on this video Phia. Was building a video like this to help explain the meta verse to more laymen folks and this is video does this well.
    Will definitely point back to you as an excellent source.

  • @whtiequillBj
    @whtiequillBj Před rokem +1

    Heyo from Second Life! I've not actually used VRChat but I do understand what is it like to be in a virtual world. I also have tried VR lightly so I do know what it is like and how impactful it is.
    I'm in my late 30s but am very savvy and my only real berrior to going to use VRChat is my own choice to not get a VR Headset other then my PSVR for my Playstation.
    This is the first video I cought of yours. Really enjoyed it keep up the good work!

  • @forgottenalex
    @forgottenalex Před rokem +9

    Funny thing is, Facebook had 2 staff members that are big names in VRChat content making communities

  • @liana56776
    @liana56776 Před rokem +5

    thank you so much for trying to go under the surface level and try to talk about vrchat in a way that shows the true magic of it

  • @cihiris2206
    @cihiris2206 Před rokem

    I've been saying this for so long! Well done. It's been there for so long and I've been building avatars and worlds and sharing them with many people and that's the beauty of it. There's so many content creators contributing to the VR Chat platform and have been for so long and you can enjoy it for only the cost of a headset. I found myself making friends in there and looking forward to getting back in to meet up for new adventures, games and even watching movies with others. Such a great platform.

  • @powerdude_dk
    @powerdude_dk Před rokem

    It's SO pleasing to see VRchat mentioned in this manner. Highlighting the beauty of the platform/game. I can see there's much I haven't yet experienced in VRchat. So I'll make sure to go look for interesting worlds next time 😄👍

  • @nredsa
    @nredsa Před rokem +7

    still working on considering pushing the VR chat button. half of what you said scares me and the other half intrigued me. i think i will try and maybe look into how to make an avatar. that has to be very important.

    • @TheVirtualRealityShow
      @TheVirtualRealityShow  Před rokem +3

      “Do something that scares you every day" is a great quote :) give it a go.

    • @nredsa
      @nredsa Před rokem +1

      @@TheVirtualRealityShow but but but... people... they are fairly unpredictable.

  • @WardOfSouls
    @WardOfSouls Před rokem +4

    I think there are two big reasons that VR Chat doesn't get focus in the establishment media, and while you touched on them, they really are more important than you might realize.
    The first is that there is no real potential for businesses to make millions in VR Chat the way that Meta was promising could be possible in Horizon. As you said, individual creators can turn a profit creating unique assets for individuals, but that's not a business model that translates to a major corporation level. It's always independent creators at essentially a cottage craft scale. Without the lure of massive profits, there's less incentive for business minded writers to cover VR Chat.
    Meanwhile, the more public minded writers steer away from VR Chat because it lacks the centralized security and content control that Horizon has. As you mentioned, its possible for people to use the anonymity of VR Chat to find enjoyment at other people's expense, but beyond that it's possible to use the technology for entirely consensual intimate purposes. Establishment news organizations are still very puritanical in their content, even if it's only to make sure they don't scare off advertisers. Any product that could potentially be seen as "adult oriented" is an advertising risk, even more so if it could be argued that it contributes to "adult businesses". (Yes, I'm self-censoring here on YT.)
    Between those two reasons, of course old media are going to avoid VR Chat, regardless of all the incredible things that are being created there and all the valuable uses it can be put to.

    • @strayiggytv
      @strayiggytv Před rokem +3

      You nailed it. The lack of content moderation is a killer just by itself. You can't expect mainstream journalists to Wade through the perverts and weirdos with slurs in their names to get to the fun of VRchat.

  • @xX-DogSama-Xx
    @xX-DogSama-Xx Před rokem +2

    I think there are a few things holding VRChat back from being a big deal in the mainstream media, the most obvious one is that it doesn't have some huge corporations name behind it, so the mainstream media won't have the same wow-factor that an already recognizable brand trying to do the same thing would. I think the next would be it's accessibility, yes it's on quest but to really be able to experience the best it has to offer, you kinda need a pretty beefy PC to be able to handle it well. That accessibility might also play into why the public in general doesn't hop on the VRChat train, often I've noticed the Quest version gets disregarded even though it's going to be most people's entry point. Other things branching off of that would be that you could say it isn't really a "metaverse" because it isn't a self-sufficient environment. You have to have outside knowledge and tools like Blender and Unity to be able to create, it has the SDK to help you sort your stuff out into a way that works with VRChat, but you can't just simply create for VRChat WITH VRChat. Now personally I don't see that as a bad thing, letting people use things they are already familiar with and can import to can be extremely helpful for letting people get creative and express themselves how they want in-game, but I think it should be supplemental to some sort of method to make your own worlds or avatars in the virtual world itself, and I think Tower Unite is actually a great example of this. Tower Unite has a base character customization system that lets you choose a default avatar and some accessories to go with it, but it also gives you the option to upload your own avatars to be whatever you want. and while it isn't exactly the same, the condo system is similar, providing preset areas you can customize to your hearts content with furnishing all provided by the game, but if that isn't enough, you also have the option to import your own items to customize your condo, or you could take it a step further and have an empty field as your condo, and import a model to make your own entirely new world in its place. Now I'm not saying this is a perfect implementation, but I think something similar could work really well in letting players who don't have that outside technical knowledge take part in the creation process and letting them express themselves in any way they're comfortable with

  • @Piano404
    @Piano404 Před rokem

    The fact that a while ago it was so popular and such an incredible place, but now its just died due to reasons I don’t even fully understand. I hope that more videos like this that might help bring vr chat back.

  • @baefaux
    @baefaux Před rokem +3

    i dont really ever comment on yt vids or much else for that matter but phia you really did an amazing job on this. vrchat, dispite its shortcomings, is the "metaverse" and has changed many ppls lives including mine and ppl need to know that its an awesome thing for the world to enjoy. i love this video, please keep this up phia!

  • @MekaniQ
    @MekaniQ Před rokem +3

    CONGRATULATIONS ON 200K! ❤❤
    Glad to see another video from you!

  • @viserion5631
    @viserion5631 Před rokem +1

    there is always the pokemon mystery dungeon music in your videos, i love it

  • @gabrote42
    @gabrote42 Před rokem +2

    First time here. Well explained, almost as good as actual big informed news channels. I like it. Thanks.
    11:43 While I myself am wary of escapism due to some very compelling fiction and testimony, I can absolutely understand the appeal. I am mind-boggled how nobody (except maybe YongYea) talks about this. As long as you are happy, productive and social, there's no complaint from me. More creativity and more critical thinking always good. Also, good luck finding a VR headset on any house here in Buenos Aires. Sadly we gotta help the people who would like this the old fashioned way. At least we got some amazing food.

  • @eking7690
    @eking7690 Před rokem +5

    "You dont know about virtual reality until you have put on the headset and have someone who is obi wan kenobi show you the way" ...This is so f'n ironic because i use an obiwan skin and show new players around to cool places any time i find out they're new.

    • @eking7690
      @eking7690 Před rokem +3

      Btw, early 40s here and your dad is the real homie. He said that his friends hardly know what everything is vr wise. As people tend to get older, they get stuck in their ways or just dont care about new things or advancements. People get floored when i tell them my age in VRChat. Its good to see other OGs get it :)

  • @BlueSparxLPs
    @BlueSparxLPs Před rokem +6

    The biggest problem I've had with VRChat is just how difficult it is to find the numerous things you can do in it if you're not already fully familiarized with every aspect. I keep hearing about all these things you can see and do in VRChat, but I can never figure out how. Others I know have the same issue, there's just not a lot of easily accessible info online, and quite frankly VRChat's search function is complete garbage which just makes the problem worse. I can't find anything without either already knowing it exists (and by its exact name), or finding it outside of the app by luck.

    • @paolaanimator
      @paolaanimator Před rokem +1

      Same here. I try to search on my laptop first on popular worlds or beautiful worlds, and then I try to save or favorite these worlds so I can revisit them in VR Chat. VR Chat has so many worlds it can get overwhelming sometimes.

    • @BlueSparxLPs
      @BlueSparxLPs Před rokem +1

      @@paolaanimator Basically that, yeah. I know there's lots of worlds that are basically just their own games within VRChat, but heck if I know how to find them lol. I feel like the lack of intuitive discovery has made VRChat far more underwhelming as an experience than it is to those who make it their entire lives and know like every world.

    • @paolaanimator
      @paolaanimator Před rokem +1

      @@BlueSparxLPs I agree. I sometimes wish the search engine can have key words to make worlds discoverable or easier to find in VR Chat. I got into VR Chat thanks to VTubers or CZcams content creators focusing on VR. People who makes videos about VR Chat and recommend which worlds to go to has helped me on finding my favorite worlds. I use PCVR so it helps to also be able to visit PC only worlds.

  • @Charlie_the_Chair
    @Charlie_the_Chair Před rokem +2

    Zuck: this tech is revolutionary and nobody has ever seen anything like it before
    VR Chat from 2017: *are you sure about that?*

  • @notdoc7109
    @notdoc7109 Před rokem

    First time seeing one of your videos. This was very well put together! I’ve played VR-chat before but without a headset I didn’t feel like I was getting the proper experience, maybe it’s time I try to save up and get one

  • @chris_is_here_oh_no
    @chris_is_here_oh_no Před rokem +42

    I couldn't imagine being without VR Chat.

  • @capri5246
    @capri5246 Před rokem +8

    Lol I feel like you let your dad pick the avi it’s such a dad avi, but seriously it was super nice to hear his take on vr. I really really wish the older generation would get into vr. I as a 22 year old and still blow away every single time I put my quest on, and basically have an existential moment nearly every vr sesh and I’ve been playing daily. I just think the older generation would really appreciate it so much it’s literally future technology. Straight science fiction. Seriously even most vr users I meet don’t seem as exited as I’d expect! Thank you for making this video I hope it blows up because the lack of hype for a pice of technology that is so Insane. Seriously for most of my life I have been a creator of some sort, I like to make things and express myself, and vr does that better than anything. Also I loved my whole life absolutely depressed with how boring reality is and the limitations of normal reality. I can’t tell you what this vr has done for my happiness and my brain. I would go off on tangents about how depressed I was that I would watch anime and action movies and I wanted to go do that stuff so bad. And now I play gun raiders a very fast passed fps, and It scratches that itch so goooood. I then can hop into vr chat and fly around in a airplane or helicopter and spend literally hours drifting around in a car, or go to my hangout world where there is a whole community who partake if u know what I mean 🍃. So I always have someone or a group to hang out with. Or I can go into blades and sorcery and really feel the heat of battle. It’s so good for that. Idk how to explain it but, it’s like it unlocks the human form into its most raw and free form. I never have felt comfortable in reality and that was a serious problem in my life. But I feel the most me and the most comfortable when I’m in vr, I havnt felt this close to myself in a long time. And that’s super important because right before I got my vr i was struggling super hard with disphorea, and if there is anything that will make you feel like a stranger to yourself it’s that. So It’s not like, I see a bright future in vr. It’s here. I have a quest 2, a relatively lower end headset but not really lol. But even with the quest 2 and what we have now, I am beyond satisfied. I couldn’t ask for more, and I couldn’t even imagine what we have now, so the fact that we are just getting started, it has my whole soul smiling so big.

  • @austinwil5616
    @austinwil5616 Před rokem +1

    Im a 2 year old VR gamer, VRChat was very skeptical to me but i decided to throw everything i thought aside and start it up, i am having the most fun I've ever had! I get to be whoever i want, whatever i want, with no judgement. VRChat has blown me away as the 1st vr experience a person should try. Its very memorable, spending time with people you just met but end up going to a VR bar, get some drinks, take a huge group photo, and relive each instant everyday and everytime.

    • @UnknownSquid
      @UnknownSquid Před rokem +1

      You shouldn't be drinking in VR at only 2 years old! xD
      (Jk)

  • @HoloTheWiseVR
    @HoloTheWiseVR Před rokem +1

    i had my great grandmother (born in 1931) try my vive in 2017 and she still loves to play it even now she thinks its amazing to be able to hang out with people from around the world and play all these different kinds of games with them.