How Greece was Christianized DOCUMENTARY
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Comrade, i really appreciate the content of your productions, very interesting and illustrative documentaries, but cold you put subtitles in Spanish in the vídeos?
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Significant errors: You use map of modern Greece and you describe the years between classical Rome and Greekorhodox East Rome . Very confused for people who don't have historical knowledge.Furthermore You mention how Greek mainland cities became christian but you forgot that the Greek Center cities and regions like Ephesus Alexandria Pontus was the cause of transformation and now are out of modern Greek map...
Why did u use modern Greece map ? I hope u correct it , because it downgrades a lot your excellent search and video summary .
@@atesyabgu0844 No the map is modern nothing common with era that describes. Is wrong not only in Anatolia is wrong generally.. I don't care about your complex . The Greeks are in Anatolia unlist 5000 years and if the official knowledge of indoeuropean origin are
right the greeks comes from the east thousand years before greek colonization. Yes your origin land are Mongolia if you like it or not
Your military vids are great, but my absolute favorite vids are these that cover the non-military aspects of history and ancient life.
Me too i love their vids covering culture
Agreed! These videos give the military videos context, and provide insight into the societies waging all those devastating battles.
I agree. Even in their military vids I like the set up part the most.
I get why most people like battles, but I’m much more interested in what the common people did than kings or generals. I think history buffs don’t realise that most people at the time would’ve cared more about the chariot races than whatever new law the emperor was making (unless they’re in the small subset of society actually affected by those laws).
Me who waiting king and general cover how ancient people poop
"A simple WO Lo Lo /" ah the good to hear the great priest from age of empires .
Mhm
I was just playing AoE2 DE last night!
Don’t forgot to end it with “aiyiyo” to complete conversion.
It's time for the world to promote "pagans" and "infidels" for a better diversified and tolerant multicultural society
@@Gui101do I just played before this vid
That Age of Empires reference brought back so many memories.
"Woolooloo!"
gowatch T90 if you want age of empires 2 content
@@cesaru3619 a youtuber channel that makes good aoe 2 content
@@cesaru3619 He's not A youtuber, he is THE youtuber for aoe 2
Age of Empires is alive and well in 2022 dude, check it out on Steam!
wololo
Interested about the Christianization of Ethiopia and Eritrea, considering their somewhat isolated position from the classical world in late antiquity
@ملك cap. It’s 50-55% Christian
They were heavily influenced by the Egyptian Cultures before and after the Ptolemaic egypt and had close trade relations. So when egypt was christianized so did they but they resisted muslims due to them trying to convert them with aggression at first. At least that's what I know based on my current knowledge.
Fun fact The Christians of those regions practised a branch of christianity called coptic.
@ملك there's no official data from Eritrean government about the religious confession due to its censorship (as it's already known as "North Korea of Africa", let that sink in). But if given to the largest ethnic group, the Tigrinya people at 55% of country's population (CIA's data), the overwhelming majority of Tigrinyas confess to Orthodox Christian faith. Survey datas usually peg it between 50 to 55 percent of population
the first historical accounts of Christianity in Ethiopia is from the fourth century. Missionaries actually coming from across the Red Sea and not down from Egypt as one would naturally assume. It makes sense since Ethiopia had long-standing trade contacts with Arabia. in the fifth century they followed Egypt into non-Chalcedonian Christianity. So they are Miaphysite Copts.
It helps that Greek were the lingua franca of the Eastern mediterranian, thanks to Alexander's conquest and the Hellenization policy of his succesor Kingdoms
This. Most Jews could speak Greek, at least those who engaged in business or went into foreign countries. The Bible was very commonly translated into Greek, so it was easy for the Greeks to get their hands on texts they could understand.
Nicely said, the earliest Christian communities were concentrated in the Greek-speaking cities within the Empire
@@CantusTropus Paul spoke and wrote the Greek language.
@@americanstudiesinternation5161 The aramaic ones not the greek ones. The roman emperor enforced Christianity on the empire not the other way around +
@Leo the Anglo-Filipino Blame the Arabs.
Also, how the Greeks contributed to the early Christianity Constantine, based in Greek city of Constantinople declared Christianity the official religion of Roman Empire, the edict of Thessalonica.
The Statue of Zeus at Olympia, one of the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World also fell victim of Theodosius I's closing down of pagan temples in 391 AD. Just like the Statue of Athena in Athens, Zeus's great monument and the temple that housed it fell into disrepair as more people converted to Christianity and abandoned worshiping the old gods. It was believed to have been destroyed by a fire sometime in the 5th century AD.
Shame.
Good.
Good. Because zeus and the other god are fiction.
All gods are fiction
Good
More videos of Greece, it’s so interesting and fascinating. Great video. I would love to see a video of the Pontic Greeks (they seem to preserved a lot of ancient cultural stuff in language and music).
I am Pontic Greek 🥲
pontic are not greeks.....greeks are greeks and pontic are potnic !!!!! they beacame greeks the last 100 years they are more similar to armenias and georgians they are lazoi ...this is their nation
@@paolomontero7330 you don’t know history. It’s sad. Have a nice day
@@fm-gamer5617 you dont know history pontics dont speaκ greek but pontic language its not dialect its anothe language mixed ancient greek and lazoi language.and many other fake in this history .are you GREEK my friend? pontic?
@@paolomontero7330 it’s sad
This channel never ceases to amaze us! Thank you Kings and Generals for inspiring us to make our military history channel!
Love your channel ExpandedHistory!
2:25 *"Oftentimes it took more than preaching to convince the followers of the Old Gods to abandon them..."*
If you're familiar with writings of Lovecraft, hearing "Old Gods" summons quite a different picture in your mind than writers of the script for this video probably expected to. :D
You right bro
Great video as always! Unfortunately there's a bit of an error at 2:22
You've put the Island of Samos quite a bit more south than it is. It's the small four-cornered island further to the north, about two-thirds down the Aegean, just off the coast of Turkey. :>
I was asking for this for a while, thanks for doing this subject.
Significant errors: You use map of modern Greece and you describe the years between classical Rome and Greekorhodox East Rome . Very confused for people who don't have historical knowledge.Furthermore You mention how Greek mainland cities became christian but you forgot that the Greek Center cities and regions like Ephesus Alexandria Pontus was the cause of transformation and now are out of modern Greek map...
Three of the superpowers of the ancient history of the Persian Empire, Rome, and Greece
@@greyralph1637 and China 😉
Well said; As a Pontic Greek it always annoys me when these channels speak of ancient Greece but treat Asia Minor as a completely separate entity. They didn't even bother to include Eastern Thrace / Byzantium in their map!
@@greyralph1637 So true; it's even funnier/sadder when they label ancient Anatolia as "Turkey" in some documentaries.
@@JadSorin What about the Eblaite, Sumerian, Akkadian, Gutian, Elamite, Babylonian, Hittite, Egyptian, Philistine, Yemeni, Assyrian, Nubian, Phoenician, Ethiopian and Arabian superpowers?
No hate on Christianity, but Greek gods went hard. God of wine, god of water, god of party and fighting and volcanos. It was pretty sweet.
They were maybe hard but they were all fake and made up by people now Greece is worshipping the true GOD the triune GOD
@@Armenian.Miaphysite fake like every god/ religion. Just something for people that need a safety net or want to control the masses.
Yea but Christ was a much more merciful and caring god in comparison to them, it was understandable why they converted.
Well at least with Christianity didn't have worry about Zeus sleeping with their wives
@@jameswhite4874 "religion is le safety net and helps control the masses" is one of the most ignorant and fallacious statements ever made by pseudo-intellectuals, bet you believe that religion is the "opiate of the masses" too?
1:44 Greece wasn't just this back then. There were a great deal more Greek lands in the Balkans and Anatolia.
With a simple wololo! 😂AOE Needs to come back.
True but I think most people watching these videos know that as well, just easier to use modern Greek borders I suppose because there's no Greeks left there unfortunately.
@@nicholasstewart4316 no, it's historically inaccurate...
@@konstantinapapaioannou4306 The video?
I think the video's purpose is elaborate on how 'Greece' was christianized.
Doesnt mention 'greek peoples', I think they were spread all over the Empire
At a time when the majority of (those we call today Greeks) lived outside the geographic area of modern Greece, mainly Asia Minor, S.Italy & Sicily and many in Levant and Egypt (the two largest metropolitan Greek speaking cities then where Antioch in Syria and Alexandria in Egypt that where the third and second largest Megacities after Rome in the Empire) and all Hellenistic centres say in Syria Laodicea or Asia Minor (the 7 churches in west anatolia St. John mentions in the Revelations) Ephesos, Smyrni, Philadelphia, Pergamos etc speaking of the geographical region of todays Greece (if you did the video a little more than a century ago would you include only half of what is now Greece because these where the then borders?) makes little sense. Especially, if you still want to focus on the geographic region of mainland Greece and Aegean again cutting it off the western Asia Minor major Greek cities (most bigger than those of mainland Greece) distorts the reality of the time since west and east coast plus islands of the Aegean constituted an economic and cultural unity (outside the political wider one under Rome).
This video is about Greece not the Greek world in general
@@dirckthedork-knight1201 I understood but I also asked why slice (todays) Greece including aegean islands apart from western Asia minor cities? What separated them back then? The islands of eastern aegean had more exchange and economic ties with western asia minor cities anyway.
@@dirckthedork-knight1201 And btw the areas of the modern state of Greece and the geographic area the video shows in the map belonged back then for most of time to 5 separate Roman provinces (I guess for a reason).Achaia (south Greece), Macedonia (north Greece and beyond including Albania), modern Greece's northeast part of eastern Macedonia and western Thrace to Thracia province, the so important Greek island of Crete to Cyrene (Yes! North Africa. It had the pentapolis of five more important earlier ancient Greek cities like Cyrene, or Antipyrgos todays Tobruk) while the islands (as i told you) of eastern Aegean belonged to the province of Asia in western Asia minor.
Notice how the video says GREECE, you absolute daft. The video doesn’t say “Greece and greek colonies.” Is syria in greece? NO. Is egypt in greece? NO. Thats like complaining that france or the uk aren’t included in a video about italy. Just because the romans had colonies in said countries.
@@meep3035 no need to be so rude
It's more complicated that that. The paganism in Late Antiquity's Greece had few in common with the Classic Greek Olympian dodecatheism. During this period, have been introduced in Greece many Eastern cults, like the one of Mithras, or even a mix of Egyptian and Greek divinities like Serapis, and even the Neoplatonic schools, didn't have much in common with the ancient philosophy (Neoplatonism had a lot of Oriental mystical elements in it, that the classic Platonic philosophy would have never accepted ). The decline of the old religion was already happening since the Hellenistic times. As for the destruction of the ancient monuments, well the barbarian invasions have a lot to do with this. The Germanic tribes, like the Herules and the Goths, launched devastating invasions to Greece for two centuries. Τhe Herules destroyed much part of Athens during the invasions of the 267 AD, and later the Visigoths of Alaric destroyed completely Olympia during their devastating invasion of 396-397 AD. Many ancient posts of Greece were sacked and destroyed much later, during the Ottoman occupation of Greece by the Europeans, like the barbaric French Catholic clergyman Michel Fourmont, who raised from the ground the remains of the Ancient Sparta in 1730 AD. Or the destructon of Parthenon by the Venetian troops of Francesco Morosini in 1687 AD. Or even recently the sack of many antiquities of Amphipoli by the German troops in 1917 during the First World War (old "habits" it's difficult to stop i guess...).
Interesting.
*"habits"
Yes it really pains me when i see people talk about paganism of the roman period of greece as if it was the same with the one of the classical period
@@dirckthedork-knight1201 The problem is that many modern historians see the period of the Antiquity in Grecce as something that remained the same through time.
@@xiuhcoatl4830 The orphic monotheism was considered though a deviation from the classic Olympian polytheism during its time, and the Pythagorists were also forced to abbandon Samos and find refuge in Southern Italy. The Neoplatonism had elements in common with the classic Platonic theories for sure, but they were heavily influenced from the oriental mysticism, and it remained popular among some intellectuals, but at the same time they have become popular in Greece other eastern cults, like those of Mithras, Serapis. The classic dodecatheistic religion was in strong decline during this period.
Correct with sm all correction the Erouli invasion repelled by Hellenic militias at the the third Important for Hellenism battle of Thermopylay 267 a.d since practically was not statonable Roman arm in Greece and Alarich and the Vishigots stay in Greece for 2,5 years and destroy everything, funny think is that The assistant came finally not from Costsndinopole and Emperor Arcadius who left Vishigots raid all over Greece for 2 years but from west Rome and Italy who send Ge nreal Stiliho who drove the Visigots out ,conspiracy theory that Costsndinopole did if in perpus to destroy Pagan Greece is active
Thank you for this amazing video!
3:51 that cought me off guard LMAO
Wolooloo!
The animations are so beautiful. Great video btw!
Thanks for posting!!
Not really sure you've used the right map here. It shows the borders of modern Greece, when during this time Greece was not its own country (was part of the Roman empire) and many, or even most, Greeks lived outside of these borders (in places like Anatolia, Middle East and Italy).
The video is about Greece being Christianized so why would they use a map of the entire Roman Empire, theyre talking specifically about Greece
Hey, people!? Modern Greece is not the same border as it was in the past. I’m not referring to the video, as the creator of the video already know this. It actually included parts of Anatolia and other areas of the Southern Balkans.
Just say Turkey dude. You say Italy so why not
@footballcoreano They`re losing their countries to migrates and will be out breed in the long term. I called this Karma and justice. Can`t stand those people, as most of the world.
@@Zeerich-yx9po We are actively fighting back against the migration, unlike probably you`re people. Once again, we defend Europe and the native European people. You`re welcome.
13:45 Didn't expect you to touch n that ! What a great video ! Thanks for this !
Incredible video! Thanks
this channel is absolutely fantastic
When I was in Sicily I stood in a Church that was built directly on top of a pagan temple. Part of the floor was glass so I was able to look down at the ruins.
"Come and witness how we prevailed over "false" gods by demolishing everything tied with them"
Religion of love and peace my ass.
@@Igor369 Wubbalubbadubdub
@@Igor369 Oh the irony!
@@Igor369 cope pagay
Yeah churches are built on top of the temples. Also notice how every church the door is from the west and the only light entrance is a tiny window from behind the scenes. The entire place is dark, the only light that comes from the sun is during the sunset, not during the sunrise.(sunset-sunrise, let that sink in). Also in a lot of places I went there are weird hills that definitely scream that something is under.
We, maniots, are known in Greece for staying free and never being ruled by the ottomans or the venetians. Well it seems that this region have a long history of being stubborn and neglecting the new norms and staying faithful to the old traditions
@UC-z4B2qhAoN8Oq4zgk7c1Rg Not very "love thy neighbor" of you.
Well the Maniots till nowdays call themselves "Σπαρτιατογγονα" i.e. "grandchldren of the Spartans" for a reason...
Ottomans ruled greeks for 400 years
do you also stay faithful to old traditions like slavery being ok and women being inferior?
@@anaxiron Some regions like Mani, Souli, Agrafa, Sfakia, weren't under Ottoman controll. Mani is the most characteristic example.
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You also included Nikon metanoite ?? Your best vid yet ! Maybe a mention of gemistos plethon would make this a 10/10
Never mind ! YOU DID ! 10/10
great topic as always well explained! Your video will be very useful in my own work, kisses !!!😍✌
Thanks man! I always enjoyed ur vids in my freetime, as a nerd. But thus stuffs literally brings me through college
I am so greatfull that i saw this video !! Thank you a lot !!
I don’t understand how people say the foundation of Western Civilization are Christianity and the Greco Roman heritage and then deny that Byzantium was part of the West.
Actually, the foundation was African where the Greeks learned and copied ancient Kemet (Upper and Lower Egypt) , then came the Romans. Both the Greeks and Romans enmeshed themselves into Ancient Egypt, then used the knowledge to build on, including Ptolemy who copied the Ancients' Gods then introduced the theology to Greeks
serious people dont Deny Byzantium was part of the West, it was just a stupid politic game when Carl the Great -Charlemagne- had crowed by the Pope as Roman Emperor as in antagonism with Constantinople. And After that they try to de-legitimase everything about the East part of Rome. even after 350 years or so after the Fall of the City? they did a Trick and called it Byzantine empire, but it was not Byzantine, it was Roman empire, No coin says "Theodosius Byzantine emperor " or "Theodosius Eastern Roman emperor" Btw Justian Reclaim the Western part -sure it did not last" So what do they call Justinian? Roman emperor again? or Byzantine" oR "Briefly Roman empire of Justinian? its BS seriously
Simple put Propaganda By The Germanic Barbarian Tribes, Caesar did not finish the Job, Even today, they have some ideas about "Races" and "white" aryan or whatever which again comes back as they are Better and everyone is less better, They even did some "reseach" about Blood mixing in mediterranean and tha they are not pure -but they are ofc pure- anyway yeah
@@chrisper94 A small correction, Greeks copied 1:1 everything from an ancient civilisation based in Egypt, check Stargate film!
@@GrecoByzantine1821 have you read black athena? You'll definitely get your answers. Speaking of which there are no evidences of euclid or archimedes until centuries later. These are church fabricated myths just like their god
@@chrisper94 no the Egyptians were the ones that started worshipping Alexander the great as a God and the ptolemys moved the Egyptian capital to Alexandria a completely Greek city with barely Egyptian influence and the Egyptians already started writing their language (coptic at the time) in the Greek alphabet
Please make a video about the Britons of Strathclyde or Pengwern! They are such an underrated culture only really known for being conquered by the saxons and engles. But before they were pushed to the all the way to the edges of Britain they gave the english 500 years of bitter struggle before they could really say they controlled the island
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The amazing Kings and Generals!!!!
Thank you so much
In the book "Hellenism in Late Antiquity" by Glen W. Bowersock, it was stated that Hellenism (in terms of the ancient practices and pagan religion) was synonymous with paganism at that time. That doesn't mean, however, that the Greek language and culture was perceived obsolete and insufficient to use during the existence of the Eastern Roman Empire (especially since it was the lingua franca at that time). In several cases, it helped modify the cultures of the Eastern Roman Empire's neighboring countries (e.g. Coptic Syria and Egypt).
In the same book, Gregory of Nazianzen and Basil of Caesarea (two of the Greatest Fathers of early Christianity) are mentioned as the intellectuals who made the distinction of Hellenism as 1) spreading the Hellenic language and culture and 2) worship of the ancient pagan practices. They did make the distinction because of the reason that they saw the Emperor Julian's (also known as Julian the Apostate) goal to bring the ancient pagan practices and unite them with the Christian ones, which in the eyes of the Empire's dominant Christian population was unacceptable to see them happen, seeing them as a form of religious synchromysticism (combining and blending elements from other beliefs, religions, and faiths to make shape for the current existing religion).
Hellen means "chosen"
@@user-ms4cm4qf5j Nonsense. Hellens doesn't mean "chosen". This is a Jew idea
@@bitter_truth8646 oh those jews....
@@user-ms4cm4qf5j Jews are the 'chosen' ones. Greeks never claimed that
@@bitter_truth8646 Who are Greeks?
As a Greek Orthodox, I thank ya for tackling the topics that only I am interested in
Greeks forsaked Zeus, the sky father, and Zeus in turn crumbled Greece. Greece always be a minnow thereafter.
@@CA213FAN But Greece was conquered by Rome even while they were pagan. On the contrary, Greece regained splendor when the Eastern Roman Empire centered itself on Greece and Anatolia and it survived for a millennium.
@@CA213FAN Zeus is imprisoned in Tartaruss by Angels
@The Dark Knight Jesus was crucified and then he resurrected and went to heavens
@The Dark Knight i can't but I am talking about scriptures well no historians deny the existence of Christ even if they don't accept that he was god in Flesh but they do acknowledge he preached moral values and stuff
Great video very interesting
Awesome as always. 👍👏
Would love to see a series of videos on the Peloponnesian War and/or the Greco-Persian wars
Great video on summarizing in a few minutes such a complicated issue . Huge mistake was using the map of modern Greece , Greeks and cities at the time were all over the eastern Mediterranean and Asia Minor.
Greek colonies are not “greece” just like the United states is not england. You have a point with western Anatolia, but for greek colonies in the Mediterranean like in southern Italy or Egypt. They are not greece. Thats like calling all of the Roman Empire, “italy.” France is not italy, Egypt is not italy, spain is not italy greece is not italy. Just like how Alexandria isn’t greece. Is it a greek city? Yes but it NOT greece. It’s actually really not that hard to comprehend.
@@meep3035 Incorrect. I agree with you in respect of such cities as Alexandria and the various islets of Greeks in the Near East and other dots around the coast of the Mediterranean and Black seas where Greeks were but a drop of Hellenism in a sea of non-Greeks. However, with respect to most of Sicily, much of Southern Italy, Cyprus and an ever-growing part of Asia Minor, the Greek population comprised a majority - these were clearly Greek lands with a compact Greek population.
GeoBBB123 yes i agree with you but calling greek colonies in the rest of the Mediterranean as Greece is stupid whats the point of calling them colonies than? No one considers british colonies as “Britain or england” no one says india is england just because it was a british colony
@@meep3035 Thanks for your comment, I disagree with the comparison of the British colony, because Greeks founded completely new cities during the two colonial waves. Also for clarification reasons there is nothing nationalistic behind the comment or whatever some fanatics might think of. But Greek world was not limited to modern Greece region, in the contrary there were centres in Egypt like the famous Alexandria, South Italy, West Asia Minor and Pontic part as well as Antiochia ...etc. That's why in my humble opinion K&G made for the first time such a bad mistake ( and I am following them many years) and started their narrative falsely.
@@meep3035 I disagree firmly , because you make comparisons with childish example of the British Empire and its colonies. Using the modern Greece boundaries to say what happened in the Greek world at the time is misleading. That's why in other videos K&G used the Greek World instead of Greece, ...etc. There were many Greek centres all over Mediterranean and especially in the Eastern part of it.
Great content!
Informative
Make one for how Cyprus was Christianized please, as it was the first Roman region with a Christian Governor.
Should just be Christianuty in general
@@n.k.7840 Heathen
Excellent Job! just a wonderful work! 👏❤️
Thanks great info. XP.
These videos are excellent.
As a modern Greek Polytheist, there are many families in Greece that claim to have believed in the Gods from ancient time. Most of them do come from Lakonia just like the Maniots. I don't know how true this is, however, a teacher of mine told me that the Greeks, even today, fear to come out into public light or prove their past for fear of the Orthodox Church.
@@epg96 That is called mythic literalism. Christians may believe their mythology literally, but that doesn't mean polytheists do.
Olympus is just a mountain. However, since it is the highest point in all of Greece, it became an allegory to that which is above mortals.
Never met a pagan in my life but I know there used to be a pagan girl in my school years. You are correct that they are considered weirdos by almost everyone(myself included). But they are neopagans by the time of ottoman rule everyone was orthodox since without christianity we would have disappeared as a nation.
Are you crazy? Maniots are the biggest Christians in the entire Greece. We have more churches than any other region in Greece. If you said that you were a pagan to a Maniot 300 years, he would execute you!
@@spartan9540 Case and point. That is why they stayed *secret*
@@aristosbywater9605 there was no secret there. The priests in Mani were almost always local priests from the area and from a powerful family. Even foreign travellers noted that the Maniots were very religious and that they followed the Gospel better than any other Greek from other parts of Greece
3:52: I see you using AOE meme reference there 😂😂😂
@Leo the Anglo-Filipino monk convertion process to enemy unit in AOE often saying "wolololo" 😂😂
Very cool video
great job guyz
We, Maniots, are a warlike people. Our clan-based society was not compatible with Christian values, thus it is clear why our isolated, rocky homeland was Christianised late. There are many words in our local dialect and many customs who are clear descendants of our ancient civilisation. After all, before the Oracle of Delphi, there was the Necromanteion of Poseidon, in Tainaron, which was a ψυχοπομπείον, meaning that souls crossed to the underworld through it. It is rumoured, that Herakles himself, crossed into the underworld through the cave of Tainaron. It is also worth noting that the Maniates claim descendance from Spartan citizens that fled to Mani due to the tyrannical King of Sparta Nabis, who favoured the Helots and altered the true laws of Lycurgus. The Maniotes were also the ones that stopped the Vandals of Gaiseric, near Kainipolis, modern Kyparissos, my village. Belissarius congratulated the Maniates himself, an event documented by Procopius.
Interesting/Ενδιαφέρον.
Thank you/Ευχαριστούμε.
Kinda sus...
GoldenDawnsaywhat
Your point is?
@The Dark Knight you're coping, you're seething online!
Fantastic Video Kings and Generals!
A great historical first hand document for around 9:30
One description is given by the rhetorician Libanius of Antioch (314-392 CE) in a plea to the emperor Theodosius I:
"(ed. the monks)...hasten to attack the temples with sticks and stones and bars of iron, and in some cases, disdaining these, with hands and feet. Then utter desolation follows, with the stripping of roofs, demolition of walls, the tearing down of statues and the overthrow of altars, demolishing one, they scurry to another, and to a third, and trophy is piled on trophy...and they are in disgrace unless they have committed the foulest outrage. So they sweep across the countryside like rivers in spate, and by ravaging the temples, they ravage the estates, for wherever they tear out a temple from an estate, that estate is blinded and lies murdered. Temples, Sire, are the soul of the countryside: they mark the beginning of its settlement , and have been passed down through many generations to the men of today. In them the farming communities rest their hopes for husbands, wives, children, for their oxen and the soil they sow and plant. An estate that has suffered so has lost the inspiration of the peasantry together with their hopes, for they believe that their labour will be in vain once they are robbed of the Gods who direct their labours to their due end."
Source: Libanius of Antioch (314-392 CE) Oration XXX To the Emperor Theodosius, for the Temples, 8-10, trans. A. F. Norman, © The President and Fellow of Harvard College 1977, as found in Libanius: Selected Works Vol. II Selected Orations, Harvard Univ. Press (Cambridge, MA) and William Heinemann LTD (London, England), on pp. 109-111.
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I love this channel so much
Demographically in the late Roman Empire, the Old Hellas part of Magna Graecia, was mostly in Asia-Minor, then Macedonia, and finally Thrace. What we consider Greece today was underpopulated at that time by Greek speaking peoples. That being so, Christianity was mostly an Asiatic religion popularized in the Hellenistic parts of the Eastern Roman Empire according to the original non-Christian sources. The Hellenistic world stretched from Mesopotamia to the Pillars of Hercules. The majority of the Greek speaking world in the 3rd and 4th century A.D. lived on the continent of Asia.
the four centers of Hellenism given the power to Christianity .Ephesus-Alexandria-Athens and Syracuse
As legend has it, this the last prophesy given from the oracle at Delphi:
Tell to the king that the carven hall is fallen in decay;
Apollo has no chapel left, no prophesying bay,
No talking spring. The stream is dry that had so much to say.
Matthew 4:10 “Be gone, Satan! For it is written that you shall worship the Lord your God and Him only shall you serve”
@@malismarma_5040 Let's not fight that out now. Its true still that Christianity eradicated Hellenic religion from the face of the earth.
@@MagizardInternet Yes, and thank God for that 🙏
@@malismarma_5040 So you are happy that followers of the "religion of love" as christianity is often called killed and tortured so called "pagans" just for believing in something else? You should watch the movie "agora" and further educate yourself about the dangers of religious fanaticism.
@@greyralph1637 Or better yet just respect what others believe in. I mean I'm from christian nation yet my friends and pastor talk about our fascination in Greek mythology even discussing a lot of other mythologies we like.
Then we actually point some kind of influences in culture around it. Even though Christianity won, the traces of the past still lingers... Not forgotten, still there in the cracks of crevices of shadows.
Really appreciated the epitaph of Seikelos melody
Fantastic video today keep it up your doing amazing job
Congratulations for this most enlightening episode.
"Priests couldn't just convert with a simple Wololo". Got to love the nostalgia.
Awesome!
Thanks!
Fascinating! Thanks for describing these interesting histories, most of which, I never learned in school. The spread of Christianity through Greece, Constantinople, and Russia is so amazing. Please keep them coming. Have you done a video on the return of Christianity to Russia after the fall of Communism and the Soviet Empire?
Not Rusia is to be mentioned !
Jumping history ?
Russia was the last in christianisation .
You will get used to mention Slav enlightening in Macedonia and canonical Old Slav language aproved by Roman autorities in Macedonian churches !
1/2 of europeans are Slav by macedonian first monks and teacher not Greek enlighteners !
The new history fact you will start to put in your books now after our preposition "North" and after clearing up that Slavianisation was not Bulgarian but Macedono/ Bulgarian mutual succes !
With no primates because there isnt Slav nation but Slav enlightened entities and now nations after WW2 !
The end is near .
Don't forget that Bulgarians and Macedonians are not the same neader Cristianisation was greek for us both !
Easy going and step by step everithing will be settled for you to get to know on Macedonian nation existing ! Helenistic culture was lasting 300 years for Makedonians and colapsed with colapsing of macedonian dinasty !
Dinasty only not population of Macediniae Province , Romam time !
And all these years you have apropriated the glory of Macedon in oblivion underestimating what was Makedonia Province !
You have pushed history that Slavs came but it will be cleared up that you Guptians came after Slavjanisation of Macedonians !
Anyway we are going to EU membership and don't make negative propaganda any more that we are asking Great Macedonia !
No my dear , if you are Europeans you will swallow it that European values are starting not Helenic" nation " over Europeans !
Ha ha ha ha !
It was a culture only !
I'd love to see a video on what caused the differences between Christianity in Greece and Italy i.e Orthodox vs Catholic. I'm really curious about why they turned out so differently! Is it just culture? Or proximity to the Holy Land?
I don't think the K&G format is appropriate for tackling such questions. This is centuries of historical development and would suggest a book. Diarmaid MacCulloch, A History of Christianity. Because there you get more than just a checklist, you get insight.
Well Italy was divided until the 11th century between the eastern Romans ( south ) and the pope - Lombards - holy Roman empire ( north and central )
I think they did a video on the subject
@@bryanjames7528 they did about the 1054 scheme between east and west and the reasons that create that scheme ( which were political religious and administrative )
It's genetic. You think it's a coincidence all of the major Christianity sects break down along genetic lines. Think about it. Protestanism for the Western Europeans ( The Germanic People), Catholicism for Southern Europeans, and Orthodoxy for the Greeks ( I don't consider the Russians in this statement since they choose their faith, it didn't arise naturally through conquest like the others). People tolerate their own, so eventually maps fracture along ethnic lines. Remember that before the European Union there was no common white identity in Europe.
Thank you for this quality content.
mate, you have the knack for creating wonderful content! first rate!
Umm.. isn't using the modern political map of Greece misleading? Also quoting the video "Greece was an economic backwater and held a secondary position to the empire's economic and political life compared to the eastern provinces." What?? The eastern provinces WHERE Greece! After Constantine relocated the capital to Byzantium and renamed it New Rome (Constantinople) the city started it's path to becoming the most populous, most politically and economically significant city of the empire eclipsing old Rome in the west. Even before the Latin Romans out of Italy conquered the Greek Balkans and Asia Minor, this area and beyond into the levant, north Africa and even Egypt (remember Cleopatra ?) were hellenized (to differing degrees). Remember Alexander? There were Greek colonies as far east as Afghanistan! This made the Roman takeover of the eastern hellenized provinces a smooth transition since the Romans looked up to Greek culture and emulated it. The video skirts around the fact that a lot of Asia Minor WAS Greece. There's a reason why sometime after Justinian, the Eastern Roman Empire transitioned to koine Greek as the lingua franca. And why the Christian bible is written in Greek (the new testament).
@Spolierman the person above you said that AFTER Justinian Greek became the official language of the empire futhermore greek never stop spoken in the eastern part of the empire quite the opposite
Greece proper as in Hellas was still an economic backwater though.
The land theme was still called it Greece even if Anatolia was more rich in Greeks back then and more glorious.
No, because the focus of the video is on greek mainland, not all of the hellenic world. Also, the only misinformation here is you saying Constantine moved the capital to Constantinople in 67/69 AD.
@Spolierman
You mean Heraclius.
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Excellent video, as always.
It would be interesting if they make another video talking about the process of Islamization of the Persians.
You wrong Persian are never a Muslims
It's jast accuse to expand the torture
It's audiological to move on and get what they want
It's a mystery because of a lack of written records
@@JadSorin so most people in Iran arent Persians?
Its a sad and bloody process that tried to erased persian and zoroastrian identity.
Great content. King and General, you never cease to stop amazing me.
Great video
Pletho ended up influences the renaissance through his time in Florence and his association with Ficino. But I would say his paganism was rather eccentric, as indeed that of Ficino, and was more philosophical than religious per se. It was more associated for his desire for a return to a pre-Roman conception of Hellenistic imperialism and culture more narrowly focused than Roman universalism that he saw as having slowly corroded the Roman empire to its full.. His interest seemed largely to enact a kind of new union of mystical lost ancient knowledge combining Platonism, Zoroastrianism and 'Babylonian' astrology which anyone familiar with Renaissance magic and alchemy can see exerting their influence of in things like Hermeticism.
2:04 the first bishop of Athens was Saint Hierotheos
Thanks for the video 👍🏻
Ah yes, the holy cry of "Wololo!"
3:56 Missionaries did not carry bibles in the first centuries of Christianity, as the Bible only came into complete form at the Council of Hippo in the Fourth Century and would remain a rare and precious commodity until the invention of the Printing Press. The Apostles and their successors preached without it (the Word was in their hearts, not on papers).
Otherwise, very good documentary! Although I have doubts that Christians thought "demons" resided in pagan statues, unless someone has a source for this.
In my country, mostly in the rural area, people do get their homes "sanctified" by an orthodox priest even today. And when he does it, an important part of this ritual is painting multiple crosses on the walls, using oil (if I'm not mistaken). The purpose is exactly the same as described in this video: to drive away the existing demons and to serve as a warning for the ones coming into the house later on. I tend to believe what the author says is true.
@@Gebeleizis. Thanks for the info! Even though theologically speaking it is not particularly concurrent at least with Catholic teachings, it is interesting that customs such as these have persisted since Christianization 2000 years ago!
I think they carried the Old Testament as that was their Bible
Right, but it is important to keep in mind the fact that even though the BIBLE(the full canon one) didn't exist back then, individual books in the modern day Bible DID exist and it wasn't really that hard to carry them since they were small, and contained enough written teachings of the Apostles for them to used for evangelisation
@@mathewjose4753 Yes absolutely. What I meant is that to portray the Apostles or the first missionaries as the average modern-day protestant missionary, who preaches mainly by using scripture and quoting scripture, is anachronistic. The apostles (except Paul) were first-hand witnesses and the first missionaries (including Paul) preached about events which were recent; if the old testament was referred to for sure, the actions and sayings of Jesus were in their memory or learned directly from the witnesses. So they didn't say "Scripture says that Jesus was raised from the dead" but "we are witnesses that Jesus was raised from the dead". Saint Paul often writes in his letters "I testify that..." not "as John 3:12 says, ..."
Excellent job!
WOLOLO!!!
Di...did king's and generals just reference age of empires?! I love this channel!
3:51 I understood the reference!
We need more videos like these highlighing the political aspects which influence a relgion.
U rock man. And thanks for all ur hardwork 🔥🔥🔥💙
I always had this question since childhood but it took Kings and Generals in 2022 to answer this doubt of mine !!!!!
It is so hard to find videos like this, the videos that cover non war/coquest part of history!
One of the most heartbreaking facts of Christianisation of Greece is that when christianity became the dominant religion most of the ancient greek temples were destroyed and on top of them Byzantine Christian churches were erected as if they wanted to make sure that they would have never been used again. If you come as a tourist in greece and you notice carefully in these churches walls you will see pieces of columns or statutes embodied within the walls.... It seemed perfectly logical back then since the building material was all around.... Hardcore Recycling!!!!
@@epg96 yahweh Munches on foreskins
Apostle Paul's first missionary journey was actually to the Greek people of Cyprus around 45 AD
Impressive!
excelent video, damn greece videos are the best
Interesting and informative video. My compliments to all those who made this video a reality.
Thanks for liking my comment Kings n Generals.
this one needs to become a series.. starting with some corrections and including the history of the pagans in asia minor, in Cyprus, in Crete and other greek Islands. There is a rumor that on some Cretan mountains oaths are sworn, still to this day, to no other than Zeus, who was born there according to mythology
Wait whaa?? How interesting...do you have any sources for this? I'd love to look into these oaths being taken in Crete
Awesome work as always but you did some common mistakes that sadly tend to pop up a lot when discussing this topic
-You correctly mention that Christians made the majority of the population after some time but you fail to mention that it was already that before the edicts of Theodosios
-Paganism was actually already in slow decline before christianity even came to greece we have sources that talk about temple attendence being scarce and temples being in dis-repear this also likely played a large lore in the victory of christianity
-The Platonic Philosophy in Athens was NOT the only one in Greece there were more including one in Constantinoupole the Athenian School was also a weak shell of its former glory at this point its believed that Justinian closed it more so he could redirect funds to the one in Constantinoupole rather than having any beef with the remeaning pagans
-You make the common mistake of protraying the Maniots as wholly pagan the is not correct the sources mention that there were some small pockets of pagans in the region NOT that the "whole region was pagan"
-You keep bringing Neoplatonism together with paganism as if it was a force that was contrary to christianity this is hugely innacurate some of the first greek christian converts were neoplatonist and philosophers one of the most notables was Athenagoras who portrayed christinaity as "exactly what the ancient poets were looking for" many ideas of Neoplatonism would also be absorbed into christianity
-*Plethon was not a pagan* this is a myth propagated by the writing of his enemies (which were Aristotelians in constrast to Plethon who was a Platonist) his own writing describe clearly monotheistic ideas but he uses very archaic terms which his enemies used against him to brand him a "pagan"
PS: This comment section is disgusting this is place of knowledge not a shouting stand for you bigoted pseudo-historical rhetoric get out!!
Well said 👍👍
@@PRubin-rh4sr There were many different cults going around the most know of them were the cults of Mithras and Cybele and Sol Invictus overall the whole Roman Empire was going through a "religious revolution"
@@dirckthedork-knight1201 And let's not forget the cult of the Roman Emperor "god"...
@@pseudomonas03 Ah yeah i totally forgot about the imperial cult thanks for reminding me
@@xiuhcoatl4830 Do not confuse religion with the philosophy. Many of the Christian Byzantine intellectuals were platonists or aristotelists. For example one of the greatest Platonists was Michael Psellos who lived 4 centuries before Plethon. Or Emmanouel Chrysoloras the man that introduced the Platonic philosophy to the West.
Great Video. IC/NC
A great historical novel which depicts in an interesting way the conversion of the Roman Empire to Christianity is Julianus by Gore Vidal.
Did he make an Age of Empires II reference at 4:00?
Yes
There will be a separate episode for Asia minor and the Byzantine peninsula?
Asia Minor, definitely by the 2nd century BC, was Hellenized.
Byzantine peninsula ???
Right on time
The Apostle Paul did alot of preaching and converting throughout Greece .
Matthew and Bartholomew preached and converted people in Ethiopia
As about Georgios Plethon Gemistos was not just a romantic full but a HUGE personality created in the city of Mystra just above an cient Sparta a small Platonic state where try to create the ideal state of Plato among many incredible reforms was the idea of stopping using foreign mercenaries as he suggested to the Paleologians and recruit locals that was effective and Greeks manage to take all remaining Frankish territory in Pelloponese and Finally Athens and Thebes
Plethon also proposed to the royal dynasty that they should use Peloponnese as a stronghold in order to free the other lost territory. A plan that the last Basileus Constantine IX Palaiologos tried to make it happen, arriving to Thessaly, but forced to retreat by the Ottoman troops of Murat II. In a strange coincidence Plethon's plan will become true in 1821, when Peloponnese will become the stronghold of the Greek Revolution.
@@pseudomonas03 absolutely confirm
Plethon Gemistos was an atheist neo-pagan bastard
Interesting
3:52 nice age of empires reference lol
Watching the part with the temple destructions as a modern greek:pain
Also thank you for touching upon hellenic history, please do more of these :)
🇬🇷The name given in Western languages to the most strictly peninsular part of the current Balkan Peninsula derives from the denomination of Graeci, under which the Romans (like the Italics in general) knew its inhabitants in historical times. The origin of this ethnic group is not entirely sure, some connecting it, on the basis of a passage of Aristotle that reflects ancient etymologies, with the supposed Γραικοί inhabitants in the surroundings of Dodona in Epirus, others with the inhabitants of Γραῖα, name of two towns , in Boeotia and Euboea. Entirely distinct is the name of Hellas (‛Ελλάς, ethnic" Ελληνες) with which the ancient Greeks called their homeland, and which, at first specific to a small region of Thessaly, then extended in degrees, some of which can be found ( Hellas and Argos, in the Odyssey), to the whole peninsula inhabited in ancient times by the Greeks. The two names Hellas and Greece thus coexisted throughout ancient times, one in indigenous usage, the other in Latin, except the official name of Greece when it became a Roman province, which was Achaea. Then the second was maintained geographically and culturally throughout the Western Middle Ages, and is still in force today in the languages that drew it from Latin (Grèce, Griechenland, Greece). darkened and decayed with the extinction of ancient civilization, replaced in places by Romania, which reflects the Roman imperial continuity in the Byzantine denominations; the name of Ρωμαῖοι in Byzantium itself, Rūm in the Muslim Near East, united the Byzantines all , and the inhabitants of the land that once belonged to the Hellenes. The ancient glorious name rose again with the rise to freedom and state unity of the neo-Greek nation, which as a symbol of alleged traditional and ethnic continuity took the official name of ‛Ελλάς and the ethnic name of" Ελληνες; renewing, with a geographically expanded content after the Balkan wars and ethnically very complex and modified for centuries, the ancient indigenous denominations.
"Διαβόντα γαρ χρόνοι πολλοί αυτείνοι οι Ρωμαίοι, Έλληνες είχαν το όνομα, ούτως τους ωνομάζαν..." From the Cronicle of Morea written by a Frankish in 1292 AD Translation: "These "Romans" inhabited always this land, Hellenes were once known, that's how were called". And this historical source from the Latin occupation of Morea, call the Peloponnesians "Hellenes", 600 years before 1821...