Great Schism: The Bitter Rivalry Between Greek and Latin Christianity

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  • @KingsandGenerals
    @KingsandGenerals  Před 4 lety +565

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      @abhisheknanda9956 Před 4 lety +12

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    • @crazyjester993
      @crazyjester993 Před 4 lety +4

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    • @christermi
      @christermi Před 4 lety +14

      17:57 It's Ipyrus you're referring to , not Albania .

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      @omarcillo060 Před 4 lety +1

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  • @antonteodor6305
    @antonteodor6305 Před 4 lety +2875

    Konstantinos VI: "I hate you mother, and never wish to see you again!"
    Irene: "Your wish is granted"

  • @duploman1000
    @duploman1000 Před 3 lety +3581

    Jesus: 'Were... you guys even listening to a word I said?'

  • @davidbowie5023
    @davidbowie5023 Před 9 měsíci +123

    As a Catholic from Ireland, I appreciated it. It helps me to learn about the tragic schism. Wish all brothers and sisters of Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant and other Christian faith all good health.

    • @jdk67
      @jdk67 Před 8 měsíci +6

      Wishing you the best as well.

    • @hetalvn
      @hetalvn Před 5 měsíci +3

      what about other religions

    • @user-nu1kt7sn7v
      @user-nu1kt7sn7v Před 5 měsíci +7

      @@hetalvnNo!!

    • @Genarii
      @Genarii Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@hetalvnThe topic is the tragic schism of Christendom, so involving other faiths would be a bit off topic. Secondly, it is naive to assume that other religions share your values even to the point that you should wish them good health (omitting such a wish is not the same as wishing someone ill health, but I'm not sure you'd want to wish good health upon ISIS -- or even someone like David Miscavige). Lastly, one could also ask "what about non-religious people?"
      I find it hard to learn about this topic without wondering what a more united Christianity could have done in the face of the centuries long Jihad that conquered so many previously Christian lands. It may or may not have made a huge difference (by our standards) at the time, but what the world might look like now is an interesting thought. Did the world benefit from having various checks on Christian power over the centuries? Or would we have a more just, equal, and liberal North Africa and Middle East today if, say, the Crusades had been a far bigger success? It's a counterfactual, but an interesting one to ponder.

    • @simonegregoire2004
      @simonegregoire2004 Před 3 měsíci +4

      Amen!

  • @Thepeug
    @Thepeug Před 3 lety +1881

    Pretty crazy to realize that the Roman Empire basically lasted all the way until 1452.

    • @firstamendment2887
      @firstamendment2887 Před 3 lety +182

      Lmao, no. They are still lasting. They are leading Satanism from the Vatican.

    • @armandoan6328
      @armandoan6328 Před 3 lety +207

      @@firstamendment2887 protestard at it again 🤡🤡🤡

    • @firstamendment2887
      @firstamendment2887 Před 3 lety +108

      @@armandoan6328 No, there is only one mediator between God and man...and it is Christ. I am a Christian. Get it right. Jesus is my priest. Jesus is my Redeemer. Jesus is my king. The pope, worships Satan, not YHWH.

    • @armandoan6328
      @armandoan6328 Před 3 lety +234

      @@firstamendment2887 go read some church fathers and u will understand

    • @firstamendment2887
      @firstamendment2887 Před 3 lety +79

      @@armandoan6328 I read from THE church father, and I understands completely. Anyone brainwashed to believe Catholicism is of YHWH, needs forgiveness, for worshipping Satan. I don't pray to Mary, or Peter, or any other HUMAN. Jesus only. These people still had to worship, at the feet of Jesus. Jesus says He is the only way to the Father. I believe Him, not people that use fake power, to abuse little boys.

  • @ls200076
    @ls200076 Před 3 lety +2379

    Catholics: "May Jesus aid me in battle"
    Orthodox: "May Jesus aid me in battle"
    Catholics: "Wait"
    Orthodox: "Wait"

    • @D_Marrenalv
      @D_Marrenalv Před 3 lety +40

      LOL

    • @lunchingtangpua2415
      @lunchingtangpua2415 Před 3 lety +305

      @@D_Marrenalv jesus will never help them .they did not even listen to a single word he said .

    • @D_Marrenalv
      @D_Marrenalv Před 3 lety +46

      @@lunchingtangpua2415 Agreed!

    • @muslim_itu_tolol_sekali
      @muslim_itu_tolol_sekali Před 3 lety +49

      @@WillyIlluminatoz nah JESUS never turn to ISLAM. He use ISLAM as a tool to correct christianity. Is a fact ISLAM can destroy ortodox but cant beat catolic and even can't hold protestant spread

    • @aardappel8450
      @aardappel8450 Před 3 lety +253

      @@WillyIlluminatoz Islam denies the most proven fact about Jesus' life, Him being crucified.

  • @Iron-Bridge
    @Iron-Bridge Před 4 lety +3022

    If only the history they taught in school was this well presented.

    • @prismadelsaber6317
      @prismadelsaber6317 Před 4 lety +23

      Well presented but more accurate than this.

    • @alchemist6819
      @alchemist6819 Před 3 lety +86

      @@prismadelsaber6317 don't even think lol, sometimes it's too much of a bias in schools than CZcams.

    • @95jAlfinse
      @95jAlfinse Před 3 lety +71

      The only thing I remember from highschool history class was "Remember class, Prussia wasn't Russia, it was Germany" which isn't even accurate

    • @alchemist6819
      @alchemist6819 Před 3 lety +41

      @@95jAlfinse same lol my history teacher couldn't differentiate between Prussia and Germany.

    • @georgeabraham5672
      @georgeabraham5672 Před 3 lety +1

      True. I loved buy my school history teacher was really messed up

  • @aasemahsan
    @aasemahsan Před 2 lety +184

    4:12 Rome & Constantinople stand as the two sole influential churches
    5:08 Eastern Roman Empire's control over the papacy in Rome
    5:40 Leo III begins Iconoclasm (727 AD)
    6:02 Lombards end Eastern Roman Empire's control over Northern Italy (751 AD)
    6:25 The Franks enter the fray under Pepin the short & the papal states are established
    7:57 Irene rises to power in Constantinople (797 AD) by deposing her son Constantine VI
    She stops Iconoclasm
    8:59 Charlemagne is crowned as Holy Roman Emperor (800 AD)
    10:02 Rift between Holy Roman Empire & Eastern Roman Empire
    11:51 Church power
    12:11 The Photian Controversy (863 AD)
    12:53 Difference between religious rituals of the two churches
    13:28 Two churches come to blows & *The Great Schism* occurs
    15:57 Massacre of Latin population in Constantinople (1182 AD)
    17:08 Fourth Crusade

    • @Ibraheem776
      @Ibraheem776 Před rokem +5

      Jazakallahu khayran. I’m learning this to tell some Christians that they can’t say Muslims always fight eachother when they did

    • @marksuperkid1253
      @marksuperkid1253 Před rokem +17

      ​@@Ibraheem776 Christians fought each other a lot. How does that make it untrue that Muslims fought/fight each other a lot as well? The one doesn't exclude the other.

    • @alvirarahman574
      @alvirarahman574 Před rokem +6

      @@marksuperkid1253 we don't have shit show like "Sack of Constantinople" or "Thirty years war" which decimated the population of present day Germany. Muslims have no record of sinking THIS low.

    • @jaimealvarez5666
      @jaimealvarez5666 Před rokem +13

      Alvira Rahman sinking this low. Yeah say that again verbally but think about the word Mongolia at the same time. One little man change your whole history only legit empire to come out of the ruin was ottomans and the only real competition they had was a dying Byzantine that was getting out of a plague.

    • @alvirarahman574
      @alvirarahman574 Před rokem +1

      @@jaimealvarez5666 lol commenting irrelevant crap here won't save you from the shit hole u dug yourself for haha. Name any Sect war inside the realm of Islam that is as bad as "Sack of Constantinople" or "Thirty Years War" you Christians even assassinated your Pope of the other sect and you have the nerve to speak here. What kind of shameless human are you? Either be relevant or shut up.

  • @MrEngleson
    @MrEngleson Před 2 lety +12

    Very concise explanation, good job capturing the concept highlighting the important events. Glad that this channel addressed this topic. This could be a good high school history class lecture. Thank you!

  • @otgunz
    @otgunz Před 4 lety +2928

    Again and again I am amazed by the rich art styles and visual representation techniques the antiquity presents us. Thanks to the nameless Roman, Greek, European artists whose art inspired me through the making of this video in terms of mosaics, stained glasses, manuscript illustrations, and icons.
    For any political or religious reasons art must not be a thing to be banned imho, since it is ridiculous to ban a thing which defines the humankind and it's power comes from core urges. Anyways art finds a way and insists to get out to the great openness of the earth no matter what.

    • @aquilatempestate9527
      @aquilatempestate9527 Před 4 lety +43

      The slippery slope there is that malicious people can redefine what art is and peddle all sorts of cultural weaponry as "art". All things in balance, especially tolerance.

    • @DoReMi123acb
      @DoReMi123acb Před 4 lety +31

      You and Aquila hit it right on the nail. Art must be preserved and never censored but balance between tolerance and openness must be struck.

    • @494949david
      @494949david Před 4 lety +10

      that has to be one of the most amazing messeges I ever red on ytb

    • @ramichahin2
      @ramichahin2 Před 4 lety +12

      don't seek the doctrines of men, worshiping idols, following their own lusts... seek The Truth on your own beloved ones. ask The Most High to lead you in His Ways (I believe this is outside the churches who delight in idols and icons, although I am sure they have many True Believers)

    • @starhawck
      @starhawck Před 4 lety +10

      Roman and Greek are European.

  • @peterdiaz3796
    @peterdiaz3796 Před 4 lety +1853

    Roman Catholic Church: you’re hereby excommunicated eastern heretic
    Orthodox Church: ...no u

    • @jasondaniel918
      @jasondaniel918 Před 4 lety +94

      Simplistic, but fairly accurate.

    • @rezandrarizkyirianto-1933
      @rezandrarizkyirianto-1933 Před 4 lety +24

      The same can be said about the HRE and the Papal States

    • @anonymussicarius8899
      @anonymussicarius8899 Před 4 lety +43

      A tragicomical fact is, that as pope Leo IX had already died at 19th April, the excommunication enacted by Cardinal Humbert of Sevilla on 19th July 1054 was void, because Leo had only given a blanko excommunication, to be enacted in case the negotiation would fail. But by canonical law not only this document would´ve lost it´s validity with Leo´s death, but also the papal delegation had lost it´s authority, as they weren´t (yet) authorized by the new pope Victor II. But the news of Leo´s death hadn´t reached Constantinopel by the 19th July, and in the aftermath of the reciprocall excommunication all party´s were to proud and stubborn to acknowledge this fact, and get a compromise going.

    • @ravezon
      @ravezon Před 4 lety +24

      Yea...Christians became from love thy neighbors by Jesus to fuck you neighbors by some popes. The popes back in the days making Jesus proud.

    • @chrissonofpear1384
      @chrissonofpear1384 Před 4 lety

      And as for Leo the X...

  • @richardschleenvoigt4374
    @richardschleenvoigt4374 Před rokem +85

    This is honestly the best overview and breakdown of this historical event I have ever seen.
    If you are a teacher in an english speaking classroom then use this!

  • @MH-ms1dg
    @MH-ms1dg Před 2 lety +10

    I think this is my favorite video from K&G.
    It's a very coherent and storied piece that also represents the matured style of this channel.

  • @cnhnx
    @cnhnx Před 4 lety +882

    Constantine VI: I hate you Mom
    Irene: Off with your eyes, son

    • @Lemsch
      @Lemsch Před 4 lety +67

      Our parents when they told us what punishment was like in their childhood.

    • @m00njaguar
      @m00njaguar Před 4 lety +67

      The Byzantines had a law that a blind man could not be emperor, so many claimants to the Byzantine throne were ritually blinded over the centuries in power struggles, sometimes with golden tools made especially for removing eyeballs

    • @theStashSmash
      @theStashSmash Před 4 lety +18

      @Boris Erdogan Ironically...it was considered a mercy by most people of the times because outright execution was deemed far worse of a sin.

    • @rustemzholdybalin6210
      @rustemzholdybalin6210 Před 4 lety +1

      @@saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014 nah, it was just a way to seed fear, and deffo he took this example from ancient greek mythology

    • @allium2718
      @allium2718 Před 4 lety +17

      Oh shit my mom is named Irene.

  • @boomerix
    @boomerix Před 4 lety +1990

    Latin and Greek Christians: We will always be the greatest rivals, we will never be pissed at any other Christians more than that.
    Protestant Heretics: Let us introduce ourselves.....

    • @user-xs5te5eb3b
      @user-xs5te5eb3b Před 4 lety +109

      4th crusade

    • @suondilut5027
      @suondilut5027 Před 4 lety +157

      Protestants of protestantism: Call a ambulance....
      But not for me

    • @colindebourg3884
      @colindebourg3884 Před 4 lety +79

      You can always rely on religion to find a reason to kill each other, dumdarsed idiots.

    • @alexandrub8786
      @alexandrub8786 Před 4 lety +304

      @@colindebourg3884 because we all know the great leap backwards was made by religious people and not atheist commies.

    • @Indytelevision
      @Indytelevision Před 4 lety +296

      @@colindebourg3884 aw shut up it's human nature. We could all be athiest and I garuntee you we will be killing each other over some obscure difference

  • @j.d.buchanan4897
    @j.d.buchanan4897 Před 2 lety +9

    Just discovered this channel. Fantastic stuff! I love history and these bite-sized, easy-to-follow videos help me add to my knowledge with practically zero effort.

  • @albanian9374
    @albanian9374 Před 3 lety +26

    Though being Muslim but such division saddens me. I'm from Albania and I can still feel this division where Catholic and Orthodox Albanians have always argued against each other due to their differences and Orthodox Albanians have sometimes been blamed as Serbian/Greek/Macedonian agents though I view them as Albanians. The two churches need to settle their differences.

    • @vasiliskaranos605
      @vasiliskaranos605 Před 2 lety +4

      By settle differences, I hope you mean the Pope removing the doctrines of Papal supremacy, infallibility, filioque, immaculate conception, purgatory, and penal substitution. Because true faith and objective truth can’t compromise and contradict itself for the sake of resolving differences.

  • @Conorp77
    @Conorp77 Před 4 lety +401

    Kings, Generals, and Popes! You seriously need to do a series on Charlamagne!

    • @hazanaimon6458
      @hazanaimon6458 Před 4 lety +26

      Big daddy of Europe

    • @mobiggcro
      @mobiggcro Před 4 lety +12

      I wouldn’t see it as a happy ending if almost all western and central european conflicts originated from charlemagne dividing his empire between his sons 😅

    • @culturedman1310
      @culturedman1310 Před 4 lety

      Yes

    • @Cancoillotteman
      @Cancoillotteman Před 4 lety

      @@themitri5643 Basks, in the Pyrenees mountain passes killed Rolland, not Serbs...

    • @USERCRETE
      @USERCRETE Před 4 lety +3

      Oh yes! the fake "emperor " .

  • @theofiloskalos1650
    @theofiloskalos1650 Před 4 lety +1461

    Translation of greek words: Irene= peace(Ειρήνη), Nikephoros=victorious(Νικηφόρος), Hagia Sophia= Holy Wisdom(Αγία Σοφία), schism= gap/tear(σχίσμα), Thessaloniki=victory over the Thessalians(Alexander's sister name), Nicomedia=victory over the Medes(Persians)

    • @dimitrismihalopoulos1469
      @dimitrismihalopoulos1469 Před 4 lety +172

      Θεσσαλονίκη/Thessaloniki means "victory *at* Thessaly". It was an allied force of Macedonians and Thessalians that fought there against a common enemy.
      And Nikephoros means "Victory bringer", not just victorious

    • @sarban1653
      @sarban1653 Před 3 lety +34

      The Medians were Iranians but they were not Persians.

    • @eliaspapanikolaou3563
      @eliaspapanikolaou3563 Před 3 lety +63

      @@sarban1653 yes but the Greek call the Persians ,Medes as later the Germanic s as Celts and later all the westvEuropians as Frank's

    • @eliaspapanikolaou3563
      @eliaspapanikolaou3563 Před 3 lety +21

      And later they use to call the Huns and the slavs Scuthian s .

    • @champosvezast.v.4355
      @champosvezast.v.4355 Před 3 lety +7

      @@dimitrismihalopoulos1469 yes, Nikiforos means the bringer of victory, literally "the one who carries the win"...
      But I am not sure about Thessaloniki if it was about "a victory over the Thesalians" or "a victory of the Thessalians"...
      The two words are Thessalon and Niki and in any case was a Makedonian victory, but can't remember, if it was the first its obvious, it's because Makedones win the Thessalous (Brothers kill Brothers) or if it is the second it must be due to a win that was given to the Macedonians due to their allied Thessalians allies...
      (Thessalians was back and forth being enemies and aliens of Makedonian all the time until Alexander unified all Greece)

  • @nicumarinescu34
    @nicumarinescu34 Před 3 lety +22

    The Patriarchate of Constantinople was not saying it was the head highest power. The Bishop of Constantinople said all bishops are equal the Roman Bishop was the one fighting for power

    • @thediesel3198
      @thediesel3198 Před 3 lety +3

      Exactly, this video straw mans the entire schism into politics, and makes some straight out false statements. The schism was theological. But we hear none of this in order to undermine Christianity as a sort of "political religion". Jesus apparently started a "new religion" as one example. Complete ignorance imo.

  • @AvoidantNomad
    @AvoidantNomad Před 3 lety +3

    Wonderfully produced and a pleasure to watch. Very, very informative. Thank you!

  • @cultusdeus
    @cultusdeus Před 4 lety +343

    "Irene gouged out her son's eyes, becoming the sole ruler." A mother's tender love! (sniff, sniff)

    • @ByzantineCalvinist
      @ByzantineCalvinist Před 4 lety

      Μάνα μου!

    • @lordlucius1341
      @lordlucius1341 Před 4 lety +3

      s nah man he didn’t knock when he walked into her room on accident and he gouged his own eyes out

    • @BSKX17
      @BSKX17 Před 4 lety +13

      she didn't want her son to see the ugly world of politics. she was protecting him

    • @informitas0117
      @informitas0117 Před 3 lety +4

      " you have your mother's eyes.. no wait, other way around.

    • @EmptyMan000
      @EmptyMan000 Před 2 lety +1

      @@BSKX17 Making him a priest was not an option?

  • @MegaAgamon
    @MegaAgamon Před 4 lety +787

    The schism affects us to this day.
    My Grandma who was half-Greek and half-German was a Catholic due to her Germanic Heritage.
    My Grandpa who was a Greek was Orthodox.
    So there was a stupid issue when they were going to marry eachother. Where would they be wed in a Catholic Church or an Orthodox Church?
    The couple themselves didn't care much but it was an issue with their parents. So they decided to compromise they would marry twice once in an Orthodox ceremony and once in a Catholic one. (AKA Double the cost of a wedding)
    Since the husband was Orthodox they decided to do the Orthodox one first. Afterward my Grandma went to the Catholic Church in Athens to plan her wedding. Upon learning that the couple were already married in an Orthodox ceremony the bishop excommunicated my Grandma on the spot. She snapped at him telling him that even Jesus didn't excommunicate the ones who put him to the cross and she was getting excommunicated because she married an Orthodox?
    That stunt although it impressed the bishop it wasn't enough to remove her excommunication. She died in 2014 and the Catholic Church refused to do her funeral we did it on an Orthodox one even though she wasn't an Orthodox Christian.
    It wasn't because she was already married since wasn't rare for couples of different faiths to marry twice. And even if it was because of the marriage not the Orthodox part the church would simply refuse to marrie them not excommunicate the woman and refuse to do her burial 50+ years later.
    But the sad part is our own family was split. We are not in good terms with pretty much anyone on my mom's Catholic side. And with those that we are in decent terms we barely speak to eachother at all.
    Personally, I believe that the Scishim is stupid it tries to use the Will of God to abuse the worshipers. The Lord said after all "Love everyone".

    • @vadimdon
      @vadimdon Před 4 lety +164

      Γρηγόρης Αράπης that's sad. And your grandma was right. Jesus didn't excommunicate anyone but the church feels the need to do so, what a joke

    • @MegaAgamon
      @MegaAgamon Před 4 lety +37

      @@vadimdon agreed, thankfully as the church gets seperated more and more from power each year one day we all go back to being a single faith that praises the Lord for his love.

    • @theemirofjaffa2266
      @theemirofjaffa2266 Před 4 lety +41

      Sorry to say so but your family is so living in the middle ages. Perhaps they need to chill and keep up

    • @MegaAgamon
      @MegaAgamon Před 4 lety +16

      @@miliba *grandparents

    • @MegaAgamon
      @MegaAgamon Před 4 lety +16

      @@theemirofjaffa2266 Don't worry most folks are normal XD
      Also there are some bad relatives on either side.

  • @aloyalcatholic5785
    @aloyalcatholic5785 Před 2 lety +31

    A fairly well balanced portrayal of the divide between the sides of Christianity. Obviously this is fraught with complex history and theology and I feel like it was well done in relatively brief way.

  • @lotz871
    @lotz871 Před 3 lety +5

    Very well presented! Extremely detailed and quick information though I had to watch this a few times to absorb it all.

  • @alexb4587
    @alexb4587 Před 4 lety +315

    As an Orthodox, I was hesitant clicking the video, but great job being impartial and covering pertinent facts!

    • @markuhler2664
      @markuhler2664 Před 4 lety +43

      Am Catholic, I was impressed too (& in fact thought there were a couple of places the wording tilted to far west).

    • @IapetusStag
      @IapetusStag Před 4 lety +21

      It's missing the details on how Pope St. Leo III resisted the Filoque, and this video still holds on to the traditional 1054 as completely factual. Etc etc

    • @alexb4587
      @alexb4587 Před 4 lety +17

      Ferrer Mihkael I agree 1054 isn’t exactly right but it is when the first excommunications and anathemas were thrown around West vs East, mainly due to personal dislike. However they did show the importance of 1204 as the final nail in the coffin that split them from the commoners to hierarchs.

    • @alexb4587
      @alexb4587 Před 4 lety +4

      Mark Uhler To be expected but I’ve seen textbooks actually denouncing the East as wrong so I’ll gladly take this :)

    • @rustsquirrel2976
      @rustsquirrel2976 Před 4 lety +18

      I am Russian Orthodox

  • @summergram
    @summergram Před 4 lety +408

    Give credit to those who carefully noted everything so that we could learn about it more than 1000 years later for free

    • @otgunz
      @otgunz Před 4 lety +10

      Thanks for watching!

    • @chum3192
      @chum3192 Před 2 lety

      Proverbs 22:3
      "A prudent man foresees evil and hides himself, But the simple pass on and are punished."
      Take heed to this truth, or if you reject it as "conspiracy" or "craziness" you will suffer the consequences.
      "Popery Puseyism Jesuitism"
      By Luigi Desanctis
      Page 140:
      At what, then, do the Jesuits aim? According to them, they only seek the greater glory of God; but if you examine the facts you will find that they aim at universal dominion alone. They have rendered themselves indispensable to the Pope, who, without them, could not exist, because Catholicism is identified with them. They have rendered themselves indispensable to governors and hold revolutions in their hands; and in this way, either under one name or another, it is they who rule the world, who have reduced it to such perversion of ideas, that he can neither be a good citizen nor a good Catholic who is not a Jesuit.
      Page 139:
      He who thinks he knows the Jesuits by having read all the books that were written in the past century to unmask them, would be grossly deceived. The Jesuitism of that day was an open war against the Gospel and society; the Jesuitism of the present day is a slow but contagious and deadly disease, which secretly insinuates itself; it is a poison taken under the name of medicine.
      "History of the Jesuits: their origin, progress, doctrines, and designs" 1854
      By Nicolini, G. B. (Giovanni Battista)
      Page 39:
      take the Jesuit for what he ought or appears to be, and you commit the greatest of blunders. Draw the character after what the Jesuit seems to be in London, and you will not recognize your portrait in the Jesuit of Rome. The Jesuit is the man of circumstances. Despotic in Spain, constitutional in England, republican in Paraguay, bigot in Rome, idolater in India, he shall assume and act out in his own person, with admirable flexibility, all those different features by which men are usually to be distinguished from each other. He will accompany the gay woman of the world to the theatre, and will share in the excesses of the debauchee. With solemn countenance, he will take his place by the side of the religious man at church, and he will revel in the tavern with the glutton and the sot. He dresses, in all garbs, speaks all languages, knows all customs, is present everywhere though nowhere recognized-and all this, it should seem (O monstrous blasphemy!), for the greater glory of God
      Page 82:
      [Jesuit] Father Francis Pelhco... candidly confesses that " the many illustrious friends of the Society, prelates, orators, learned and distinguished men of every description, the supporters of the Society, remain occult, and obliged to be silent.''
      "The Jesuits in History"
      by Hector MacPherson
      Page 148:
      Danger lies in the fact that since the Vatican Council the interests of both are identical. Jesuitism is the power behind the Papal throne. “The presence of the Jesuits in any country, Romanist or Protestant,” once remarked Lord Palmerston, “ is likely to breed social disturbance.” So hurtful was the Jesuit Order found
      to be that, up to 1860, it was expelled no fewer than seventy times from countries which has
      suffered from its machinations...
      In spite of Continental warnings, England, in the name of a spurious toleration, has become a Jesuit dumping-ground. Those whom
      other countries have found from sad experience to be enemies, Britain allows to land on her shores, and to carry on unmolested their work of iniquity. We are carrying toleration to excess, and unless there is a change of policy, this nation will one day pay a heavy penalty. If we wish to escape the penalty, we must come to realize that a system which enslaves the individual, fosters superstition, is at war with patriotism and destroys morality, will, if allowed to flourish unchecked, sooner or later destroy society.
      "The Jesuits in History" 1914
      by Hector MacPherson
      Page 122:
      In order to clearness of thought in dealing with this subject, it is well to note the distinction between Roman Catholicism and the Papacy. The former has to do mainly with religion. It rests upon the theological doctrines which Protestants believe to be erroneous. There are Roman Catholics who take their religion but not their politics from the Pope. Had the Roman Catholic Church remained a purely religious organisation like any other sect, the world would have been spared centuries of evil. But in the course of its development the Romish Church, through its Popes, entered the civil sphere and aspired to universal monarchy.
      "The Vatican Against Europe" 1993
      by Edmond Paris
      Page 308:
      In the future, as in the past, she (The Catholic Church) will inexorably move towards the end she has set herself, without the slightest thought for the ruins and the catastrophes that her unwearying pursuit might be causing. "The end justifies the means". "No political event or circumstance can be evaluated without the knowledge of the Vatican's part in it. And no significant world situation exists in which the Vatican does not play an important explicit or implicit role.
      "The Secret History Of The Jesuits" 1975
      by Edmond Paris
      Page 7:
      The public is practically unaware of the overwhelming responsibility carried by the Vatican and its Jesuits in the start of the two world wars-a situation which may be explained in part by the gigantic finances at the disposition of the Vatican and its Jesuits, giving them power in so many spheres, especially since the last conflict.
      Page -163-164:
      But let us see, first, how an especially "authorized" personality, Franco, Knight of the Order of Christ, expressly confirmed the collusion between the Vatican and the nazis. According to "Reforme", this is what the press of the Spanish dictator (Franco) published on the 3rd of May 1945, the day of Hitler's death: ...
      "I learned much from the Order of the Jesuits", said Hitler... "Until now, there has never been anything more grandiose, on the earth, than the hierarchical organisation of the Catholic Church. I transferred much of this organisation into my own party... I am going to let you in on a secret... I am founding an Order... In my "Burgs" of the Order, we will raise up a youth which will make the world tremble... Hitler then stopped, saying that he couldn't say any more.."(108)
      "Swarms of Locusts: The Jesuit attack on the Faith" 2002
      by Michael Bunker
      Page 12:
      There is a conspiracy against Christendom.... But who are Satan’s agents in this conspiracy? The “agents” are the Jesuits.
      Even though the Jesuits exude vast influence and control in the areas of theology, education, recorded history and current media, I am still perplexed that virtually no literature exists exposing the Jesuit’s influence on mainline Protestantism. This is what makes “Swarms of Locusts” such a necessary book. In this work, the author uncovers forgotten history regarding the cooperative salvation theology of the Jesuits. The author then builds upon these historical truths and clearly exposes how the Jesuits (and their cooperative redemption theology) have permeated all denominations of the Protestant Church. From Cain to Charles Finney, this book historically connects-the-dots and undeniably proves that modem Protestantism has abandoned the Doctrines of Grace and embraced the doctrines of cooperative salvation.

  • @stpaulphillip
    @stpaulphillip Před rokem +2

    This is the best explanation of this event I’ve ever encountered. Thank you.

  • @jonathanherring2113
    @jonathanherring2113 Před 3 lety +79

    The filioque controversy had less to do with an actual disagreement in how the east and west percieved the spirit of God, and more to do with changing what was at the time already an ancient creed. Essentially the western roman church added a clarification statement to the nicene creed and the eastern roman church was upset that the west was making changes to ancient creeds without the patriarchs permission.
    Could be wrong but that's what i've heard at least.

    • @delgande
      @delgande Před 2 lety +7

      It was all about politics/authority disputes

    • @Motion4000
      @Motion4000 Před rokem +24

      The Orthodox Church sees it as a false addition that disrupts the previous understanding of the Holy Trinity

    • @georgemarkakis9552
      @georgemarkakis9552 Před rokem +15

      Actually, the Filioque addition to the Creed is not considered ecumenical since the Western church made the changes unilaterally and without the Eastern church involvement ( by définition non-ecumenical). Thus, the Orthodox stick to the original Nicean Creed without the Filioque which is how the last ecumenical council left it (where it was agreed upon by all).

    • @CatholicChats
      @CatholicChats Před rokem +17

      @@georgemarkakis9552 Actually the Orthodox use the amended Nicene Creed which they clarified in 381 at the Council of Constantinople of which no western bishop was present…

    • @hermespsychopompos4615
      @hermespsychopompos4615 Před rokem +10

      It's always this. Western heathens always wanted changes as per their wims of the time.

  • @Big_E_Soul_Fragment
    @Big_E_Soul_Fragment Před 4 lety +405

    So this channel is Kings, Generals and Cardinals now

    • @patrick9876
      @patrick9876 Před 4 lety +13

      And those called “the Short”, “the Great”, and so forth

    • @dzakysastra
      @dzakysastra Před 4 lety +5

      @@patrick9876 not the terrible though 🙅‍♂️

    • @emperoripmgproductions3150
      @emperoripmgproductions3150 Před 4 lety +1

      Could that be Exeter from Azur Lane?

    • @Big_E_Soul_Fragment
      @Big_E_Soul_Fragment Před 4 lety

      @@emperoripmgproductions3150 yes

    • @TheCookieGamer523
      @TheCookieGamer523 Před 4 lety +1

      @Lord Voldemort Caesar is what the German word for King (Kaizer) derives from. The Holy Roman Empire was a germanised continuation of Rome so it makes sense really.

  • @JustGrowingUp84
    @JustGrowingUp84 Před 4 lety +850

    "... had conquered the Saxons and the Avars, introducing these pagan people to the faith of the Roman Church." - well, that's a diplomatic way of putting it, lol!

    • @brucecampbell6578
      @brucecampbell6578 Před 4 lety +10

      You are sentient. All pay tribute to Rome or the legion will be at the door. The battle for rights of Roman tribute between the Greeks and Latins could be called the two thousand year war. Likely the Forth Crusade did not settle the issue completely amicable to the Papacy. The dollar sufficient evidence of our continued Roman indenture.

    • @SAMI-gc1hx
      @SAMI-gc1hx Před 4 lety +123

      Forceful conversion is the more appropriate word

    • @ramichahin2
      @ramichahin2 Před 4 lety +85

      the catholic church murdered all the Christians who didn't follow in it's idolatry and false doctrines... they murdered millions of True Believers as well, not only pagans.... that church is well known for it's murderous ways.

    • @thethirdsicily4802
      @thethirdsicily4802 Před 4 lety +86

      rami chahin millions? Idolatry? My friend I’m gonna need some numbers because you Protestants haven’t exactly been too nice either, the Kulturkampf of Germany, persecution in England and its colonies, revolutionary France, Salem witch trials, my friend we’ve killed way fewer than millions, you people and your fanatic asceticism is fine, sure, but calling us idolatrous is foolish

    • @brucecampbell6578
      @brucecampbell6578 Před 4 lety +5

      @@ramichahin2 What is a pagan except he who does not subscribe to Roman idolatry? I say anthropomorphism is degenerate spirituality. For that matter, Capitalism is commodification of life or nature or God for personal aggrandizement. Capitalism is usury in fact and the worship of Moloch in practice. Spirit is beyond form or species or sex or time. We may check with our own for the truth of this. The art of man has no life of its own. Nor do his books or languages.

  • @annalisette5897
    @annalisette5897 Před rokem +4

    WOW! What a fact packed 20 minutes! I'll have to watch this a few more times! Thank you!

  • @persona83
    @persona83 Před rokem +2

    Great documentary and beautiful artwork. Not to mention the narration, pleasant voice and pace. Thank you!

  • @paradox7358
    @paradox7358 Před 4 lety +248

    17:08 *"The grim end of this tale is already well known to many."*
    Don't, it's too soon 😔

    • @Fulllife3.2
      @Fulllife3.2 Před 4 lety +9

      It's been over 800 years...

    • @bogdan3386
      @bogdan3386 Před 4 lety +8

      @@coolthief8375 yeah, the Balkan region is probably the most divided region in the world, full of biased people with some of the most conflicted ideas, worldview and ethnical disputes and just bitter hate towards each other

    • @bogdan3386
      @bogdan3386 Před 4 lety +7

      @@coolthief8375 it's also weird how the Ottoman occupation brought some form of unity in the Balkans between Christians no matter the doctrine but after the Turks disappeared that unity disappeared with them. Also I said those things about the Balkans because I live in the region and the people are wild.

    • @Tavromachos
      @Tavromachos Před 4 lety +1

      @@coolthief8375 Also quiet a lot of people in Russia. Almoust got Constantinople in 1878, still feeling bad about "almoust" part.

    • @RoberttheWise
      @RoberttheWise Před 4 lety +10

      Where is Rome?
      *points to map*
      Where is Moscow?
      *points to map*
      Where is Constantinople?
      *points to own heart*

  • @ricardoguanipa8275
    @ricardoguanipa8275 Před 4 lety +316

    cant wait for the for the Schism Part 2: Lutheran Bugaloo

    • @useodyseeorbitchute9450
      @useodyseeorbitchute9450 Před 4 lety +13

      Western schism: Am I a joke to you??? ;)

    • @bvdemier1
      @bvdemier1 Před 4 lety +29

      MOM, LUTHER IS NAILING SOMETHING TO THE DOOR AGAIN!!

    • @Harshhaze
      @Harshhaze Před 4 lety +1

      @@bvdemier1 Martin Luther King day

    • @MasterMalrubius
      @MasterMalrubius Před 4 lety +2

      @@bvdemier1 I think they were feces.

    • @rezandrarizkyirianto-1933
      @rezandrarizkyirianto-1933 Před 4 lety +11

      "That's bullshit, this whole thing is bullshit. That's a scam, fuck the church. Here's 95 reasons why."
      -Martin Luther

  • @jeffmarlatt6538
    @jeffmarlatt6538 Před 3 lety +7

    Great video. Quite informative. Keep up the good work.

  • @joshygoldiem_j2799
    @joshygoldiem_j2799 Před rokem +2

    Can't help but think Kings and Generals and Knowledgia did a collab on this subject, they've each covered the historical and theological background of the schism respectively and the two videos complement each other so well.

  • @mayjeganmogan4514
    @mayjeganmogan4514 Před 4 lety +1655

    imagine if irene had married charlemagne! how different would today's europe be?

    • @HolyknightVader999
      @HolyknightVader999 Před 4 lety +593

      The Roman Empire might still be standing today. Frankish muscle combined with Greek science and intellectualism would create for a potent combination. They may even be able to beat back the Muslims.

    • @sanjak689
      @sanjak689 Před 4 lety +87

      HolyknightVader999 no lol.

    • @EJ160E
      @EJ160E Před 4 lety +290

      Stopped by an impotent eunuch...thanks Obama 🙄🙄🙄

    • @HolyknightVader999
      @HolyknightVader999 Před 4 lety +124

      @@sanjak689 Yes lol.

    • @PhoenixKyuketsuki
      @PhoenixKyuketsuki Před 4 lety +215

      DUDE, I was literally sitting here like....that ball-less son of a bitch literally deprived us of the world's most badass power couple, im so fuckin mad!!!!! They would have been BOSS!!!!

  • @charlescook5542
    @charlescook5542 Před 4 lety +381

    "normans living peaceful lives" that statement is not possible

    • @rezandrarizkyirianto-1933
      @rezandrarizkyirianto-1933 Před 4 lety +30

      "Oh, you know... just following orders from our bastard king..."
      -Sincerely, a Norman soldier

    • @rezandrarizkyirianto-1933
      @rezandrarizkyirianto-1933 Před 4 lety +3

      @Hoàng Nguyên That's pretty offensive

    • @xenotypos
      @xenotypos Před 4 lety +2

      @Hoàng Nguyên Well it's okay then since they weren't vikings. That's probably why they actually brought something to england (mainly architectural techniques) . Italy is another matter though I admit.

    • @xenotypos
      @xenotypos Před 4 lety +9

      @Hoàng Nguyên "Norman" in 1050 just meant "inhabitants of Normandy", which only had a small portion of scandinavian blood (since the frankish locals in Normandy have always been the majority), and which completely discarded scandinavian culture, so much that most didn't speak norse at all, just old french. William the conqueror itself had very few viking ancestors compared with the overwhelming majority of frankish ancestors. And by "frankish", I also mean what it meant at the time, not the germanic tribe of the 500s.
      Normans and vikings were as close as germans and french. Not that close.
      And btw Celtic people (Irish, Scot...) aren't Germanic, that's a different ethnicity. Russians are also a different ethnicity: Slav. It's just that historically the Rus' of kiev was kick started by scandinavians (which indeed are germanic).

    • @xenotypos
      @xenotypos Před 4 lety +10

      @Hoàng Nguyên You're wrong. Celtic people are celtic people, slavs are slavs, germanic people are germanic people. Different ethnic groups historically speaking. Franks in 1050 mainly meant people from western frankia (not the former germanic tribe 5 centuries earlier), historians generally call them french already because in that west part they were already french culturally speaking (but they called themselves the franks). People in western frankia were for a large part from Gaulish ancestry (thus mainly Celtic), mixed with Germanic migrations (and a bit of roman migrations) throughout history. Frankish or french society was thus mixed, you can't consider french people strictly germanic, just a part. The normans consequently added to that mix.
      Historically, the meaning of terms just depend on what era you're talking about. For example before the 900s "Norman" was indeed just the name of the vikings (the way french people called them, all of them). But once Rollo was given a duchy which was named Normandy and swear fealty to the king of France, Normans were the people that lived in the duchy of Normandy, a totally different thing. Then in one century and half, they totally assimilated to the locals of that region.

  • @saintandrew245
    @saintandrew245 Před 3 lety +158

    i am an orthodox christian i love all humans and christians around the world ❤️☦️

    • @mrsullied
      @mrsullied Před 2 lety +12

      Humans AND Christians 😂😂 😘

    • @kalebloshbough1551
      @kalebloshbough1551 Před 2 lety +7

      Im just aworthless sinner depending on my King Jesus we were never supposed to put labels on it for we are all one in Jesus

    • @ciupenhauer
      @ciupenhauer Před 2 lety +2

      I was born orthodox and fuck that church, most idol obsessed, conservative and superstitious crap

    • @Expatsunleashed
      @Expatsunleashed Před 2 lety

      @@kalebloshbough1551 Jesus was as worthless as you think you are. Probably more.

    • @hellwithit
      @hellwithit Před 2 lety

      Lier!

  • @dimitris1303
    @dimitris1303 Před 2 lety +75

    Congratulations guys! You keep surprising me! Historically accurate and well presented videos. About this story, its useful to say that many historian believe that the real schism between the two peoples, was occured when the crusaders sacked Constantinople. The hubris of sacking the first christian capital, the city of God, was the decisive moment that pushed Orthodox Greeks away from Catholics, for good.

  • @jreiland07
    @jreiland07 Před 4 lety +322

    Where my Orthodox brothers at ☦️🇬🇷

    • @jreiland07
      @jreiland07 Před 4 lety +19

      Γεια σας!

    • @sethl7078
      @sethl7078 Před 4 lety +8

      👌

    • @CygnusStarz
      @CygnusStarz Před 4 lety +6

      Hey Hey ! Some of my family also Catholic. My two older sisters were Catholic. Former Orthodox Alterboy. Church name Yakov

    • @steparsteparest1121
      @steparsteparest1121 Před 4 lety +32

      🇧🇬🇧🇾🇬🇪🇬🇷🇲🇩🇲🇪🇷🇴🇷🇸🇷🇺🇺🇦 here

    • @arturo7036
      @arturo7036 Před 4 lety +26

      Estonian Orthodox here 🇪🇪☦️

  • @Dragons_Armory
    @Dragons_Armory Před 4 lety +187

    Freaking love the artworks man- there aren'e enough good Early Christian slash "Dark Age" European artworks out there and I for one absolutely love the quality of the works featured here! 🙏🙏🙏

    • @noahkidd3359
      @noahkidd3359 Před 4 lety +9

      Honestly whoever did the art did a fantastic job... some of their best art yet

    • @shorewall
      @shorewall Před 4 lety +2

      Empress Irene was looking good! :D

    • @TomCruz54321
      @TomCruz54321 Před rokem +1

      This is like Game of Thrones: Church Edition!

  • @DaveTheTurd
    @DaveTheTurd Před rokem +1

    Excellent.... thank you for the efforts you exercised in creating this essay. I look forward to checking out the rest of your content. +sub

  • @abeddani992
    @abeddani992 Před 2 lety

    Thanks for this informative video, keep doing this on historical topics

  • @user-vh6gw1hr6c
    @user-vh6gw1hr6c Před 4 lety +325

    I love learning about the history of Christianity :) It was thanks to the Greeks that my nation of Bulgaria converted to Christianity and it was a combined Bulgarian and Greek effort that successfully converted the future Russian. This is why a lot of Slavic names actually have Greek origins.

    • @iggyfitzsimmons1168
      @iggyfitzsimmons1168 Před 4 lety +12

      cough* Rus conversion

    • @DVXDemetrivs
      @DVXDemetrivs Před 4 lety +42

      It seems to me that the Bulgarians overestimate their role in the formation of Russia a bit, the fact that we became Christians is mainly the merit of the Greeks, with whom the future tsars almost completely tried to copy the state system

    • @user-vh6gw1hr6c
      @user-vh6gw1hr6c Před 4 lety +3

      @@DVXDemetrivs Interesting! Can you point me to some sources so that I can learn more about this? :)

    • @DVXDemetrivs
      @DVXDemetrivs Před 3 lety +12

      @@ikipemiko Are you talking about the alphabet for which the citizens of Byzantium of Slavic origin were paid for in an organization entirely owned by the Greeks? no one says that the whole world watches Russian TV because an important part of this invention belongs to Zvorykin.

    • @melvinjansen2338
      @melvinjansen2338 Před 2 lety

      Artem

  • @msherif428
    @msherif428 Před 4 lety +1562

    "There's no such thing as toxic femininity."
    Irene: Hold my son's eyes

    • @dangelotringali7527
      @dangelotringali7527 Před 4 lety +39

      And some people say that's sexist. She's why I'm Catholic.

    • @larrysilverstein8606
      @larrysilverstein8606 Před 4 lety +82

      Anastasia B you are the only idiot here

    • @DaveGIS123
      @DaveGIS123 Před 4 lety +50

      "There's no such thing as toxic femininity." Nobody talks about Athaliah, queen of Judah (841-835 BC) who seized the throne after the death of her son King Ahaziah, killed her rivals, and established Baal worship in Judah.
      "When Athaliah the mother of Ahaziah saw that her son was dead, she proceeded to destroy the whole royal family of the house of Judah." (2 Chronicles 22: 10).

    • @zxil6
      @zxil6 Před 4 lety +54

      I'm sure toxic femininity exists, but that's not an example of it.

    • @kyarden7971
      @kyarden7971 Před 4 lety +56

      So when Ivan the Terrible killed his son, Constantine “the Great” killed his wife and son, Süleyman killed several of his sons was not a toxic masculinity, but when Irene did it it suddenly is. It’s funny how some men today are so afraid of women in history doing what men in history also did. Laughable...

  • @Jimboken1
    @Jimboken1 Před rokem

    Excellent overview. Thank you! Your effort is very much appreciated.

  • @KillerCadaver
    @KillerCadaver Před rokem

    This is one of the greatest videos I have ever seen! Thank you for this.

  • @bubastis6306
    @bubastis6306 Před 4 lety +220

    The art in these videos is gorgeous. Love the illustrations for the different leaders.

  • @ACGreyhound04
    @ACGreyhound04 Před 3 lety +107

    I have a unique perspective on the division between the Orthodox and Catholic churches, since it could be said that I have one foot in each cultural world. My mom is Greek Orthodox, while my dad is Irish Catholic. I was raised and baptized into the Greek Orthodox Church, of which I am still a proud member, but my secondary, undergraduate and graduate education was at Catholic schools, run by the Xaverian and Jesuit orders. This video provides a very good summary of the events surrounding the schism between the churches

    • @ahmetcelik2220
      @ahmetcelik2220 Před rokem +3

      You should become Muslim :)

    • @lunarlad8075
      @lunarlad8075 Před rokem +10

      beta dad

    • @Orthodoxi
      @Orthodoxi Před rokem +19

      Other than a few things like the fact the Orthodox Church would never agree that the pope was ever the sole power. The Church was, is and always will be the sole power. Though the fact there may be many scattered true Christians outside of it, the Orthodox Church was, is and will be to the end, the only true remnant of the Church God gifted to us. With His son Christ as the head under the Holy Spirit. Of course.

    • @fritzvenezia9338
      @fritzvenezia9338 Před rokem

      @@Orthodoxi
      I'm a Catholic but the Orthodox priests in my country use the succession of Peter as a symbol of the supremacy of the bishop of Rome in settling the Ecumenical councils. The reason why Protestants still don't overwhelm the churches of Christ (Apostolic), are because of
      1. The legitimacy of Ecumenical Councils, and
      2. The apostolic succession.
      Who is there to say that we can settle an Ecumenical council and settle it? Is it a democracy or not? Yes they chose who will replace Judas, but that's it. The rest supports the claims of the bishop of Rome, which succeeds from Peter. If you'll deny that the bishop of Rome descended from Peter, then you might as well deny the validity of the Ecumenical councils. There is a reason why Jesus gave keys to Peter referencing explicitly to Eliakim in Isaiah 22:22. Even if you read what Ireneus and various early Christian scholars noted the supremacy of the bishop of Rome. Israel was once ruled by many Judges, but there is an existing blueprint that Judah will be the kingdom. It existed there in the scriptures for so long. Back then they only see what is good in their own eyes, but when they become a kingdom, it is not also immediately accepted, they even went to civil war, to banishment, to enslavement, until they realize that it is true that Judah in all of the tribes is all along the sole authority despite being written there in the scriptures for so long. The same thing you can keep arguing now. Any Orthodox or Protestants of today can do councils upon councils that they wanted to, and keep on splitting, but if they don't trace where their roots are, and which authority was actually given to, the church would be shaky at its core. We Catholics don't even curse the Orthodox church, we see it as a part of the true original Catholic and Apostolic church that Jesus Christ made, that Ignatius the disciple of John mentioned as early as 1st century AD. But it is the Orthodox who claims that they are the "Only" church, and by saying so, gives also legitimacy to the "Lutherans and Anglicans" who traces their roots to the Apostles through the apostate priests who broke off from the Church and then used the Apostolic succession as their reasoning, mixed with blasphemy and protestantism against the Church.
      Check out why the top intellectuals and scholars from Protestantism converts to Catholicism of all the Apostolic churches existing. People like Scott Hahn, Trent Horn, Cameroon, and so on.

    • @BOREDANDWELLBORED
      @BOREDANDWELLBORED Před rokem +2

      @@Orthodoxi so Jesus words don't count? Peter you are my rock and upon my rock I will build my church? This is just a quick summary but the inevitable division by the East was material possession by emperors to inherit and hand over to their bloodline while the Pope is voted in and replaceable. On paper at least. The same case with the reformation of King Henry. Listen as a Asian man short brown and poor I never envy anyone's wealth because I understand that envy is the result of wanting to be in their place. In other words envious people are mad at handsome and rich people because they want to be them... What I'm trying to say is somebody has to be above you in this life and you have to learn to live with that because God is above you after you die. The Pope was put there by Jesus to be above emperor's Kings and all leaders. If the pope is bad he will be replaced.

  • @rcdcrichard
    @rcdcrichard Před 3 lety +13

    18:43 I respect you for mostly staying true to the EU IV map colors.

  • @rogersledz6793
    @rogersledz6793 Před rokem

    Thank you so much for uploading this video. It is helping me get through the pandemic!

  • @DavidBenson2
    @DavidBenson2 Před 4 lety +473

    I'd totally watch a show about this from the eastern perspective.

    • @fotischaronis4597
      @fotischaronis4597 Před 3 lety +17

      If you can see the easterns has as a political status the Democracy. The westerns has the monarchy of the kings!Completely deferential world's!!depression against freedom.

    • @christophed8429
      @christophed8429 Před 3 lety +11

      Technically, they still have not really reconciled with each other even though some strides have been made. In order to tell this story from a certain perspective, it would offend the other side. I do agree with you though that it would make for great tv.

    • @bojanstare8667
      @bojanstare8667 Před 3 lety +5

      @@fotischaronis4597 Not really democracy. They have slaves.

    • @arealisticexpectationpera
      @arealisticexpectationpera Před 3 lety

      @@fotischaronis4597 then hegemony versus hierarchy?

    • @fotischaronis4597
      @fotischaronis4597 Před 3 lety

      @@bojanstare8667 sure !depend the period

  • @Gabriel-ip6me
    @Gabriel-ip6me Před 4 lety +78

    Dude the problem with Irene was not that "women were unfit to rule". Though not an usual thing, women could (and did) hold temporal power if the situation required it. They could not however (and still can't) hold positions of power in the Church.
    The title of Emperor was different to every other one. The Emperor was the supreme sovereign of Christendom. It was both a temporal and spiritual office. Byzantium could be rule by a woman, Christendom couldn't.

    • @derekk.2263
      @derekk.2263 Před 4 lety +11

      Keep in mind too that there were loads of queens who did most of the major decision making through their husband, they basically just told the king what to say.

    • @SantomPh
      @SantomPh Před 4 lety +1

      it did work when the Eastern Empire was dominant as the Patriarch was serving the Emperor or Empress

    • @Gabriel-ip6me
      @Gabriel-ip6me Před 4 lety +17

      @@derekk.2263 "Loads" is an exaggeration. Medieval times were brutal and women received little to no education. Also, contrary to modern belief, the vast majority of queens were happy just being wives and didn't have any political aspirations. You do have examples of queens being more influential than their husbands, but it's a rare thing and only really started happening with the Renaissance, once women started receiving some education and the world got less brutal.

    • @INoticeTooMuch1
      @INoticeTooMuch1 Před 4 lety +2

      @Derek K. Examples? I’ll wait....

    • @INoticeTooMuch1
      @INoticeTooMuch1 Před 4 lety +2

      @One Two that’s bullshit. What survey is this? The churches have a good 5-15% of abuse amongst their clergymen (employees) just like most other organizations. It just gets way more scrutiny bc of who they are and what they are supposed to represent. Btw studies say 100% of people named One Two on CZcams like men. See how that works?

  • @brettsh.2545
    @brettsh.2545 Před rokem +2

    This channel is so well done.

  • @andrewmcandrew7642
    @andrewmcandrew7642 Před rokem

    Shout out to not only this channel but also the dedicated camera men 🎥 they have in their employment who can travel back in time to show us the map of these things

  • @theDHC
    @theDHC Před 4 lety +448

    "For the first time since antiquity there were 2 Roman emperors"
    Well yes, but actually no

    • @fcalvaresi
      @fcalvaresi Před 4 lety +11

      TheDHC well actually only one of them was welcome in Rome.

    • @fcalvaresi
      @fcalvaresi Před 4 lety +13

      @@zarni000 I mean Charlemagne did have control of Rome, the papacy was a puppet state to the Franks.

    • @fcalvaresi
      @fcalvaresi Před 4 lety

      Christian Trevisan I wonder if you can bring something else than your despise.

    • @histguy101
      @histguy101 Před 4 lety +10

      I don't believe he was meant to be a "2nd Emperor" or a competing emperor. He was declared the "true successor" to Constantine V, the son of Irene.
      Competing Emperors didn't come around until Otto.

    • @cadr003
      @cadr003 Před 4 lety +3

      @@paulmayson3129 While ultimately correct about their power coming from Augustan succession, the role of Christianity in the coronation of Roman emperors (and all European monarchs since) has been vital since the 500s. We can't ignore that the role of Emperor had become more than a secular position, but an important Christian one by then. And as a Christian, he was a spiritual subject to the Church.

  • @pradhanawibisono2432
    @pradhanawibisono2432 Před 4 lety +146

    I love how they subtly used CK-II music

  • @MiThreeSunz
    @MiThreeSunz Před 4 měsíci

    An interesting, informative, and educational overview! Well done! 🇨🇦

  • @castleofmusic7469
    @castleofmusic7469 Před 2 lety

    Absolutely stunning video !!!
    Thank you 🙏❤️🙏

  • @oreste8570
    @oreste8570 Před 4 lety +894

    If Irine was exiled to Lesbos, this means she technically became a Lesbian.

    • @andrewforte3852
      @andrewforte3852 Před 4 lety +26

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.

    • @ata-urrehman6842
      @ata-urrehman6842 Před 4 lety +37

      Lesbosian*

    • @oreste8570
      @oreste8570 Před 4 lety +51

      @@ata-urrehman6842 yeah, like Cyprusian

    • @irbis_rosh
      @irbis_rosh Před 4 lety +6

      Best. Comment. On. The. Net!

    • @gregoryjones9546
      @gregoryjones9546 Před 4 lety +1

      LOL!!! 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @ryannguyen7466
    @ryannguyen7466 Před 3 lety +760

    Roman Empire: The Original
    Eastern Roman Empire: The Sequel
    Fascist Italy: The Sequel Nobody Wanted
    Holy Roman Empire: The one that ruined the original.
    Ottoman Empire: The bad spinoff.
    Russian Empire: The weird fanfiction.
    Alexander's Empire: The short lived prequel.

    • @user-wu3qn4dq2s
      @user-wu3qn4dq2s Před 3 lety +56

      They are both original. If anything the west betrayed the east more than once and continue to betray today...

    • @albertocruzado2899
      @albertocruzado2899 Před 3 lety +73

      Spanish Empire: the cult classic film that took good note from the original, it is currently mainly forgotten by mainstream and normies, but everyone in his time took inspiration from or tried to copy or steal.

    • @skhan1992
      @skhan1992 Před 3 lety +69

      How was the Ottoman empire a bad spinoff? They ruled for over 600 years and essentially had hegemonic rule for over 300. They also achieved a a land mass equivalent to the Roman Empire with a larger population.

    • @skhan1992
      @skhan1992 Před 3 lety

      @Valentina Nightingale Well said 👍

    • @Alberto_Gomez
      @Alberto_Gomez Před 3 lety +69

      @@skhan1992 Yeah, if you wanna call sand "a land mass equivalent to the Roman Empire", by all means go ahead. It's a bad spinoff.

  • @d0g_0f_Christ0s
    @d0g_0f_Christ0s Před 3 lety +2

    Thank you so very much for this brief but informative, gem of church history. Gem as in 'valuable' not 'the beauty of war'. The search for truth never ends, again, thank you for this contribution.

  • @akritai2324
    @akritai2324 Před 3 lety +48

    Late to this but superbly explained. I showed this to my daughter to explain her Orthodox heritage better than I could.

  • @DarkImplement
    @DarkImplement Před 4 lety +229

    So instead of marrying Charlemagne, Irene went full Lesbo

  • @ash8207
    @ash8207 Před 4 lety +31

    I really love how you guys take a complex subject like this, simplify it & make it quite entertaining & fun to watch.
    Well done!

  • @byzantineemperor6459
    @byzantineemperor6459 Před 2 lety +1

    Very detailed report! Well explained.

  • @claytonshepherd
    @claytonshepherd Před 2 lety

    Thankyou for this . I never understood why the 2 Churches were split. Great video. Cheers.

  • @evancurtis4215
    @evancurtis4215 Před 4 lety +79

    I've been wanting to learn more about the Great Schism for a long time, great video!

    • @JBlackjackp
      @JBlackjackp Před 4 lety +3

      Evan Curtis well you should probably start reading because this video is horrible

    • @IapetusStag
      @IapetusStag Před 4 lety +5

      The video is incomplete in details. I am a former Catholic seminarian who studies this and it's even more complicated than this that misses key points.

    • @Recusant_
      @Recusant_ Před 10 měsíci

      @@IapetusStagcare to share any info

  • @ZenFox0
    @ZenFox0 Před 3 lety +47

    My first time viewing the channel. I love the high-level overview of the Great Schism. I also love the maps and artwork by Oğuz Tunç and company. Keep up the great work!

  • @jacobluedy5534
    @jacobluedy5534 Před 2 lety

    Extremely well put together

  • @Snowdogash
    @Snowdogash Před 2 lety +1

    Amazing video. The most striking thing is by about minute 13 it suddenly hits you how much upheaval was caused by people arguing over which magical invisible floaty wizard man was the best.

    • @ihavenojawandimustscream4681
      @ihavenojawandimustscream4681 Před 2 lety

      Man has always slaughter what they can see for things they cannot see,from ideology to nation to sky wizards

  • @danielanthony256
    @danielanthony256 Před 4 lety +86

    As a Catholic I have nothing but love for my Eastern Orthodox brothers and sisters. I listen to eastern religious chanting and love the Byzantine Empire.

    • @tr1084
      @tr1084 Před 4 lety +10

      The Jesus Prayer is one of the greatest gifts they've given.

    • @user-jd3vs6ju2y
      @user-jd3vs6ju2y Před 4 lety +5

      daniel you should pay a visit to agios oros in the third leg of chalkidiki

    • @user-xs5te5eb3b
      @user-xs5te5eb3b Před 4 lety +3

      your ancestors didnt so that doesnt count

    • @thethirdsicily4802
      @thethirdsicily4802 Před 4 lety +2

      Star Star they may be schismatic but don’t let it stop one from loving the Byzantines, with enough time the east and west WILL be brought back together.

    • @thethirdsicily4802
      @thethirdsicily4802 Před 4 lety

      @Syed Ahmed east west schism, Greek orthodoxy is considered the east

  • @lshe97
    @lshe97 Před 4 lety +62

    when you recently watched the video on the Normans in southern Italy, and then get to 13:29 in this video
    "Oh yeah. It's all coming together."

  • @roncornelius8339
    @roncornelius8339 Před 2 lety

    Awesome 👏 information!! Thank You For Sharing!!! Simply fantastic !!!!

  • @21TheRonin
    @21TheRonin Před 3 lety +20

    Gotta love how the Bulgarians are casually sitting on the sidelines, grabbing land whenever the Romans aren't paying attention.

    • @cpt7752
      @cpt7752 Před 2 lety +1

      We even conquered all of Greece... Wish we could turn back time, to the good old days..

  • @gabo1841997
    @gabo1841997 Před 4 lety +19

    The parallax animations of these videos are absolutely spectacular!

  • @ratooeybusinessman6066

    Top CZcams channel for sure. Fun and educational! Just fantastic.

  • @rwsmith7638
    @rwsmith7638 Před rokem

    Excellent content and presentation.

  • @stephenmeier4658
    @stephenmeier4658 Před 4 lety +33

    An absolutely astonishing accomplishment. The simplicity of your approach belies it's ability to encapsulate a vast scope. Should be used by schools everywhere!

    • @chum3192
      @chum3192 Před 2 lety

      Proverbs 22:3
      "A prudent man foresees evil and hides himself, But the simple pass on and are punished."
      Take heed to this truth, or if you reject it as "conspiracy" or "craziness" you will suffer the consequences.
      "Popery Puseyism Jesuitism"
      By Luigi Desanctis
      Page 140:
      At what, then, do the Jesuits aim? According to them, they only seek the greater glory of God; but if you examine the facts you will find that they aim at universal dominion alone. They have rendered themselves indispensable to the Pope, who, without them, could not exist, because Catholicism is identified with them. They have rendered themselves indispensable to governors and hold revolutions in their hands; and in this way, either under one name or another, it is they who rule the world, who have reduced it to such perversion of ideas, that he can neither be a good citizen nor a good Catholic who is not a Jesuit.
      Page 139:
      He who thinks he knows the Jesuits by having read all the books that were written in the past century to unmask them, would be grossly deceived. The Jesuitism of that day was an open war against the Gospel and society; the Jesuitism of the present day is a slow but contagious and deadly disease, which secretly insinuates itself; it is a poison taken under the name of medicine.
      "History of the Jesuits: their origin, progress, doctrines, and designs" 1854
      By Nicolini, G. B. (Giovanni Battista)
      Page 39:
      take the Jesuit for what he ought or appears to be, and you commit the greatest of blunders. Draw the character after what the Jesuit seems to be in London, and you will not recognize your portrait in the Jesuit of Rome. The Jesuit is the man of circumstances. Despotic in Spain, constitutional in England, republican in Paraguay, bigot in Rome, idolater in India, he shall assume and act out in his own person, with admirable flexibility, all those different features by which men are usually to be distinguished from each other. He will accompany the gay woman of the world to the theatre, and will share in the excesses of the debauchee. With solemn countenance, he will take his place by the side of the religious man at church, and he will revel in the tavern with the glutton and the sot. He dresses, in all garbs, speaks all languages, knows all customs, is present everywhere though nowhere recognized-and all this, it should seem (O monstrous blasphemy!), for the greater glory of God
      Page 82:
      [Jesuit] Father Francis Pelhco... candidly confesses that " the many illustrious friends of the Society, prelates, orators, learned and distinguished men of every description, the supporters of the Society, remain occult, and obliged to be silent.''
      "The Jesuits in History"
      by Hector MacPherson
      Page 148:
      Danger lies in the fact that since the Vatican Council the interests of both are identical. Jesuitism is the power behind the Papal throne. “The presence of the Jesuits in any country, Romanist or Protestant,” once remarked Lord Palmerston, “ is likely to breed social disturbance.” So hurtful was the Jesuit Order found
      to be that, up to 1860, it was expelled no fewer than seventy times from countries which has
      suffered from its machinations...
      In spite of Continental warnings, England, in the name of a spurious toleration, has become a Jesuit dumping-ground. Those whom
      other countries have found from sad experience to be enemies, Britain allows to land on her shores, and to carry on unmolested their work of iniquity. We are carrying toleration to excess, and unless there is a change of policy, this nation will one day pay a heavy penalty. If we wish to escape the penalty, we must come to realize that a system which enslaves the individual, fosters superstition, is at war with patriotism and destroys morality, will, if allowed to flourish unchecked, sooner or later destroy society.
      "The Jesuits in History" 1914
      by Hector MacPherson
      Page 122:
      In order to clearness of thought in dealing with this subject, it is well to note the distinction between Roman Catholicism and the Papacy. The former has to do mainly with religion. It rests upon the theological doctrines which Protestants believe to be erroneous. There are Roman Catholics who take their religion but not their politics from the Pope. Had the Roman Catholic Church remained a purely religious organisation like any other sect, the world would have been spared centuries of evil. But in the course of its development the Romish Church, through its Popes, entered the civil sphere and aspired to universal monarchy.
      "The Vatican Against Europe" 1993
      by Edmond Paris
      Page 308:
      In the future, as in the past, she (The Catholic Church) will inexorably move towards the end she has set herself, without the slightest thought for the ruins and the catastrophes that her unwearying pursuit might be causing. "The end justifies the means". "No political event or circumstance can be evaluated without the knowledge of the Vatican's part in it. And no significant world situation exists in which the Vatican does not play an important explicit or implicit role.
      "The Secret History Of The Jesuits" 1975
      by Edmond Paris
      Page 7:
      The public is practically unaware of the overwhelming responsibility carried by the Vatican and its Jesuits in the start of the two world wars-a situation which may be explained in part by the gigantic finances at the disposition of the Vatican and its Jesuits, giving them power in so many spheres, especially since the last conflict.
      Page -163-164:
      But let us see, first, how an especially "authorized" personality, Franco, Knight of the Order of Christ, expressly confirmed the collusion between the Vatican and the nazis. According to "Reforme", this is what the press of the Spanish dictator (Franco) published on the 3rd of May 1945, the day of Hitler's death: ...
      "I learned much from the Order of the Jesuits", said Hitler... "Until now, there has never been anything more grandiose, on the earth, than the hierarchical organisation of the Catholic Church. I transferred much of this organisation into my own party... I am going to let you in on a secret... I am founding an Order... In my "Burgs" of the Order, we will raise up a youth which will make the world tremble... Hitler then stopped, saying that he couldn't say any more.."(108)
      "Swarms of Locusts: The Jesuit attack on the Faith" 2002
      by Michael Bunker
      Page 12:
      There is a conspiracy against Christendom.... But who are Satan’s agents in this conspiracy? The “agents” are the Jesuits.
      Even though the Jesuits exude vast influence and control in the areas of theology, education, recorded history and current media, I am still perplexed that virtually no literature exists exposing the Jesuit’s influence on mainline Protestantism. This is what makes “Swarms of Locusts” such a necessary book. In this work, the author uncovers forgotten history regarding the cooperative salvation theology of the Jesuits. The author then builds upon these historical truths and clearly exposes how the Jesuits (and their cooperative redemption theology) have permeated all denominations of the Protestant Church. From Cain to Charles Finney, this book historically connects-the-dots and undeniably proves that modem Protestantism has abandoned the Doctrines of Grace and embraced the doctrines of cooperative salvation.

  • @reidmaxwell8874
    @reidmaxwell8874 Před 4 lety +213

    Imagine if Charlemagne had actually married Irene. Wow. That would be incredible.

    • @ramichahin2
      @ramichahin2 Před 4 lety +68

      He did a smart call, that woman plucked out her owns son's eyes... Would you want to marry a woman that ruthless and cold?

    • @darrynmurphy2038
      @darrynmurphy2038 Před 4 lety +38

      The East Roman nobility would never accept him as an imperial consort , never mind co-ruler. Irene was likely menopausal by that age, so it's unlikely they would have children, and even if they had imperial blood was no concrete guarantee to being Basileus (being half barbarian would be an obstacle). It's doubtful as well that Louis the Pious would want to share his kingdom with an infant half brother, as Frankish law dictated. Charlemagne only lived to 814 as well, so any child between the imperial couple would be 14 at the oldest by that point. It's a fascinating idea to think about, but I doubt it would've had a long lasting effect, certainly not one past the half century mark

    • @TonyMacFarlane
      @TonyMacFarlane Před 4 lety +10

      It would kind of be like if Donald Trump married Angela Merkel, if Charlemagne had been an ignorant lout with all the intellectual acumen of a hedgehog.

    • @Kopite4life12
      @Kopite4life12 Před 4 lety +19

      Not really. The Byzantine court would not have tolerated a Western barbarian calling the shots! It's more likely Irene would have been overthrown than an heir inheriting the Byzantine and Frankish realms!

    • @rayzas4885
      @rayzas4885 Před 4 lety +14

      Tony MacFarlane lol comparing Charlemagne to any current leader is an insult to Charlemagne

  • @joaofranco2520
    @joaofranco2520 Před 3 lety +1

    Great work! Greetings from Brazil!

  • @jonathaneffemey944
    @jonathaneffemey944 Před rokem

    Thanks so much for posting.

  • @joesomebody3365
    @joesomebody3365 Před 3 lety +17

    Love the supporting visuals, very interesting history. Great video. Thanks for making it.

  • @3dwardcullen69
    @3dwardcullen69 Před 4 lety +241

    Just to muddle things up, Romanians are the only Latins who are Greek Orthodox.

    • @six2make4
      @six2make4 Před 4 lety +53

      I swear to god, there is always that one guy...

    • @CARPENTER1991
      @CARPENTER1991 Před 4 lety +21

      they are slavs not latins

    • @CulinVlau
      @CulinVlau Před 4 lety +81

      @@CARPENTER1991 umm, no. The Romanian language is recognized as a Romance language.

    • @3dwardcullen69
      @3dwardcullen69 Před 4 lety +42

      alexander lmao. You need to get an education. Romanian= romans. It’s even in the name.

    • @CARPENTER1991
      @CARPENTER1991 Před 4 lety +32

      @@3dwardcullen69 sorry, pretenders are not accepted

  • @RichJalipa
    @RichJalipa Před 3 lety

    Well done. Thank you!

  • @arnoldoflakelandsouth9863

    Very well presented. 👍🏻

  • @NYCfrankie
    @NYCfrankie Před 4 lety +110

    Another interesting topic u guys are always a highlight of my day

    • @anjusanal
      @anjusanal Před 4 lety

      Frankie Fontecchio, I see your comments everywhere in this channel.

    • @anjusanal
      @anjusanal Před 4 lety +1

      Enivid Clinton, I know you’re doing this as a part of some offer or discount if you advertise that thing...

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      @maturiachije4356 Před 4 lety

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    • @anjusanal
      @anjusanal Před 4 lety +2

      Enivid Clinton , what is this forex trading?

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      @anjusanal Před 4 lety

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  • @alerommel1
    @alerommel1 Před 4 lety +56

    That was an incredibly awesome video and covered most of the facts. You could have done some mentions on the attempts made between 1261 and 1453 for a solution of the Schism (like the Florence Council) even though popular controversy and bad timing proved these attempts fruitless....

  • @vonhummie
    @vonhummie Před 2 lety

    Calm and clear explanation. Thanks!

  • @tengkualiff
    @tengkualiff Před rokem +39

    As a muslim, this is great insight about other's religions. Thanks!

    • @bruhmcchaddeus413
      @bruhmcchaddeus413 Před rokem +2

      U just gotta understand that there was no orthodoxy before 1000s lol romans followed catholism

    • @urmwhynot
      @urmwhynot Před rokem +1

      Christianity and Islam both stem from Abraham

    • @greekpimp77
      @greekpimp77 Před rokem

      NO WE are Catholic. Orthodox Catholic. The west became Roman Catholic. Pope John Paul admitted that BOTH can claim apostolic succession and they are like lungs. Left Lung and Right Lung.

    • @daniellteif8017
      @daniellteif8017 Před rokem +2

      @@bruhmcchaddeus413 I think you missed the point of this video

    • @Steph-sk3xb
      @Steph-sk3xb Před rokem

      If you want to learn about the religion, I’d recommend reading the New Testament. Old Testament/Torah is important to read first though, a study bible is a good tool for that.

  • @kcridx
    @kcridx Před 3 lety +9

    Thank you very much for this video; concise, clear, objective, visually and audibly supporting effective transmission of information to enable the listener/learner to absorb it.

  • @silvussol8966
    @silvussol8966 Před 3 lety +513

    “I bet my God could beat up your God.”
    - Some Priest (probably)

  • @chrisdjernaes9658
    @chrisdjernaes9658 Před 2 lety

    Excellent Summary. Thanks!

  • @rkatewinslet6657
    @rkatewinslet6657 Před rokem

    loving the channel just joined

  • @MohamedAhmed-zt1ix
    @MohamedAhmed-zt1ix Před 4 lety +12

    One of the best short documentary I have seen.

  • @user-on6ox3yt2d
    @user-on6ox3yt2d Před 4 lety +7

    The content of videos here have always been super but now video editing skill also surpassed beyond just good. This channel is great. Way better than traditional documentaries from history channel or BBC. Thank you so much for posting invaluable contents for free. I do appreciate very much!

    • @otgunz
      @otgunz Před 4 lety

      Thanks for watching!

  • @spvrivs
    @spvrivs Před 3 lety +5

    A well made presentation, even though there might be some minor corrections - e.g. the "Filioque" is not a problem of belief which is the same but of which authority is allowed to introduce changes in the Creed - for the Eastern it could have been only an oecumenic council, while in the West the pope introduced it himself under the pressure of the actual (western) emperor. Then the attempts for reuniting the Church - there was one yet in 15th century when the Ottoman power was rising and struggling Constantinople, with Eastern catholics in slavic lands as the result. But scolars in Constantinople rejected this so called "Florentine union".

  • @willchen1152
    @willchen1152 Před rokem

    great video, awesome illustrations