Why are Real Madrid and Athletico Madrid Rivals? | The Madrid Derby
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- čas přidán 6. 07. 2023
- Madrid is home to several football clubs, the two most famous and succesful being Real Madrid and Athletico Madrid. In this video I go into the history of El Derbi or El Derbi Madrileño - the Madrid Derby, and why these two teams are traditional rivals in the Spanish capital.
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A smaller Spanish derby is the Galician Derby between the Celta de Vigo and el Deportivo da Coruña, being the teams of the two biggest cities in Galicia (the already mentioned Vigo and A Coruña), which themselves have a long-lasting rivalry.
The funny part about the Galician Derby is that it has been basically cancelled since 2018, as the Deportivo has fallen pretty hard into Third Division, while the Celta is still in First Division.
A few years ago it seemed 'Deportivo' were always around European football, around the 3-4 biggest club in Spain.
Copa 90 has great video about that derby
Gotta love sports politics
Football was made due to politics
I remember as a small kid wondering why Atletico Madrid and Athletic Bilbao had such similar names. I never knew there was such a connection!
i never imagined that this would be such an interesting topic, nice job hilbert!
Aren't all derby bitter rivalries though? (Utd- City, LFC-Everton, Arsenal- Chelsea, Arsenal- Tottenham, Rangers-Celtic etc)
It's kinda funny in Germany. When Berlin was split, Hertha BSC and Union Berlin where friends. Both hated the StaSi Club Dynamo. Now Dynamo plays in 4th division and the other two clubs became rivals, devided by East vs West German heritage and socioeconomics (Hertha is more established, Union is more of a workers club. Also Hertha is the Old Lady vs Union has a younger fanbase)
They are, usually those rivalries come about when either 2 clubs are the biggest in the country and both compete for trophies or 2 are from the same location, there are exceptions but that's, for the most part, the rule
@@leometz7287 Aren't Union in the Bundesliga 1. though?
@@rogink yes, they are. But they never were supposed to be. Hertha has sunk millions and still relegated. Union has less money but plays Champions League
In Spain we call those "Guerras de campanario", belfry wars, as it does feel like two little towns bickering at each other because they're next to each other, for no reason other than tribalism.
Atlético* Madrid, not "Athletico"
Real Madrid has 20 Copa del Rey not 40.
Hilbert!!!
First of all, love the football videos keep it up!
Second of all, de Friese derby is a very interesting topic if you're looking for suggestions!
Great Video, I absolutely love your videos on football history
love the football history videos lately
Love these videos so much
Atleti fan over here
Vamos Los Colchoneros
Great video
Aúpa Rayo! El mejor equipo de Madrid
Hello hilbert it’s the people you visited at scouts!! Nearly to 450,000 you can do it!!!
The 3 way derby of Fenerbahce, Galatasaray & Besiktas next
I'm not sure that is permissible. A bit like a three-way relationship?
@@rogink everyone loves a bit of Ménage à trois
I'm an American that neither knows nor cares much about association football, but I like Athletico solely for its emblem's superficial resemblance of the good ol' stars and stripes
Hello Hilbert. You can judge the rivalry by how I got some right stick on comments elsewhere for saying how much Atlético improved whilst I was watching them in the Europa Cup, some years back on terrestrial UK TV. They went on to play Real in the Champions League final a couple of years later.
It was not as if I expressed a liking for the club, but it certainly got some people's back up.
Interesting to see how they were linked to Athletic Club, who also played well in the Europa Cup, back when I was watching.
Next time Celtic v Rangers? I might have understood how this could be controversial to comment on.
I was thinking about the Old Firm when he mentioned how politics decided your team. I guess the Glasgow clubs are all that is left of religious rivalries - at least outside N Ireland - but in the past it determined your support for Liverpool or Everton, Hibs v Hearts, Dundee v Dundee Utd. Fortunately those other clubs seem to have moved on...
I should also add that you might not like Real, but supporting a club with Simeone in charge takes a special kind of stupid.
Love our channel been bing watching it for years, and that vidoe would fit in perfectly with your other vidoes about the line between Germanic an Romance languag lines in Wetsern Europe (think of belgium revolution and such). People need to know that there is an acadamic different between the peopele know as the franks (wich came before) and the French fom 800s onwards,
It has both to do with culture, language, and herigitage. And etymoligical quests.
could have spelt their name right Hilbert 😮
Oof better change that title now then
@@historywithhilbert146You are aware that you commented on a @HistoryMatters video saying: "I cry every time" right?
Interesting video, but next time, could you please use the historical club logos?
More rivalry explanations plz.
A suggestion - Los Cincos Grandes from BsAs (Boca Jrs, Racing, River Plate, San Lorenzo & the one I can't remember, perdón pibes)? :)
You could’ve just spelled it Atletico rather than Athletico
Is the Kings club I always Support in Life Hala ! Madrid ! The greatest of all time.
I LOVE RAYO VALLECANO, THE SO CALLED GIANT KILLERS :D
When was the last time you had a wash? 🛀🏻
@@charliezobel511 5 weeks ago
@@theorapp874 congratulations that makes you the cleanest and most hygienic Rayo fan out there because the rest of ya ain’t had a wash since last year
Aren’t Rayo Vallecano and Getafe also full professional football clubs in Madrid?
so are Alcoron, Leganés, Rayo Majadahonda, Fuenlabrada, etc.
Alcorcon, Leganés, Rayo Majadahonda, Fuenlabrada and Getafe are all from municipalities that are vary close to Madrid and seen as part of Madrid’s metropolitan area, but only Rayo Vallecano (which is mentioned in the video btw) is inside the actual city of Madrid.
Atléti fan from outside Spain. I had the privilege to watch some games in the stadium ans I can guarantee you, the athmosfere is amazing❤️🤍
Atleti fan from Canada that's on my bucket list
I want to go so bad man
Word
I don’t watch football that often, but I’m more inclined with Real Madrid, as most of my family is
Atlético
minute 3:13 that would be Alphonse XIII not VIII :)
Because they're from the same city. Maybe spiced up a bit more since they both high achievers at the top of the league
Do celtic vs rangers
Rayo Vallecano and Celta for me, baby! If you ever want to go to a game in Spain, sure, hit me up.
I am a supporter of the best club in the world, Real Madrid.
As Real Madrid fan I respect atlaty because they are fighters
That’s what made me like them. Every player on the team has to be able to defend
How do you spell atleti so wrong?
Atleti used to be Franco’s team. And they were also not persecuted under Franco, yet they did not get the preferential treatment like Real.
Freedom Vs Crown
Hmmm
Freedom is an illusion.
@@deiniolbythynnwr926 Freedom itself is not an ilussion but what many see as Freedom is, they get this idea of freedom sold to them by those who are taking it from them
I followed Spanish scene in past now sadly real ultras are not allowed on stadiums so it's plastic atmosphere. But Athletic has better atmosphere now , Real to much turist fans .
Against Modern Footbal!
Aúpa Atleti
AÚPA ATLETI!!!! I love atletico Madrid! El club de corazón!
Where is history?
a spanner
Visca barca, please more football videos.
Well when are different teams from the same city in sports never not rivals?
London has about 30 clubs. You wouldn't exactly say Arsenal & Leyton Orient are rivals just because they play in the same city
@@Yasinvanpersie London is kind of an exception in that way due to the absolutely massive population.
@@austinashworth6413 correct but the original comment suggested clubs in the same city are automatically rivals
Real - Castilla, Atletico - Madrid, Rayo - Vellecas!
You should do a video for the Yugoslav rivalries, there were a lot back then, and now as seperate nations a few have survived( Hajduk-Dinamo, Partizan-Zvezda)
Hajduk is older than yuga. 1911. 🇭🇷
@@croatianwarmaster7872 Stariji je jedino Krist
Barça
AUPA ATLETIIIIIIIII
❤❤ Atletico Madrid 🙂
Real Madrid took on Alfredo di Stefano from Argentina.
Was playing in Colombia 🇨🇴 at the time ⏲️
Atlético de Madrid not Athletico de Madrid.
Isn't that Alfonso the xiii?
Bernabéu was so based, we should go back to his ways. Also, you just straight up lied about the non-white Atlético team performing better than the fully white Real Madrid team. During the 70s Real Madrid won the league 5 times (6 if you count the 79/80 season) while Atlético won the league 3 times. Real Madrid won the Copa del Rey 3 times (4 times if you count the 79/80 season) while Atlético only won it 2 times. So you're just lying, the lesson is actually that you SHOULD have a fully white team lol.
Also, correction, we have not won the Copa del Rey 40 times, we've only won it 20 times. But we have been in the final 40 times.
I am on the side of the underdog, always. So, Athletico is my choice.
well you sould by a Rayo Vallecano fan then. Cuz its clearly the most "underdog" of Madrid football teams
I just like all of their players personally. When I found out about the working class hard working roots it made me enjoy them more (:
I like a team that can be a brick wall
This is 'rivalry' on paper. In reality Real Madrid is way ahead Athletico. Only Barça can pose competition for Real Madrid
Fun fact Vellacono fans campaigned to not allow a player to play for alleged fascist leanings
Madridista qui no bote.
Always been an Atletico fan because their crest looks the most American lol. This video confirms my suspicion that real madrid is evil and Atletico is the club of freedom! Haha jk but kinda not really.
Politics and football nothing new ,, but on Balkan football =war 13.5. 90 Dinamo Zagreb vs red star
After rs ultras started to demolish stadium whit support of communist police ,, Dinamo ultras stormed the pitch and fight vs communist police , even Dinamo players fight vs police..... offcorse match never been played police and army ( which had turn on tanks engines ) escort rs ultras back to serbia , and Dinamo ultras (Bad Blue Boys) rest of the night fight Vs ex yugoslavia regime police ( lot of gun shots injury's , burn cops ...)
So for all ultras in Croatia 13.5.90 is official strat of War for independence from communist big serbian yugoslavia.
HALA MADRID Y NADA MAS
Forca Barca ❤
Visca al Barça! otherwise, Rayo Vallecano in Madrid : republican, anti-fascist, NGO founders supporters. One can only love the soul of this team.
"Expat Basques"!? Que no se note el independentismo jajaja.
Wow they called the other team the Indian's because they hired player's who were not white and the other teams fan's embraced the nickname. If this was a story about an American sports team I can only imagine what people from Europe would say in the comments.
mhdp
first
¡Hala Madrid! y nada más
Unless you support a spanish team, Real Madrid is most peoples favoured team on the big stage. There is something special about winning the greatest trophies simple because you are a winner and not necessarily better than the opposition.
AUPA ATLETI
PIN ME 2ND
Tries to make a documentary.
Can’t even spell the name right.
¡Hala Madrid! F** Athletic.
As if we needed more reason to view Real Madrid as a trash team with a putrid history
Well, to be honest, Real Madrid fans from Madrid are mostly nice people, but those who are fans of it from the rest of Spain, who have no fucking business being fans of a team from the capital and should instead support their regional teams, are in many cases absolutely bonkers and terrible people. Sadly, during the francoist era, the idea that RM was "the representative team of Spain" got so spread that too many people believed it, and now we have what we have. They would not have got their first 6 European Cups if not because Franco would mainline funds from taxes into the team to fulfill his dream of a team uniting Spain (hey, dude, you had, AND HAVE the Spanish national team for that, you know??? A team that takes part in international competitions and which DOES REPRESENT all Spaniards) into one fandom. RM would be a mostly irrelevant team if not for that. The same could be said about FC Barcelona, tbh, because many people, some from outside Catalonia, but mostly from inside Catalonia but not Barcelona, are ardent fans of it for POLITICAL reasons and have been for generations, as the team that represented the struggle against Franco. Both teams developed into the strongest in Spain and that has had a negative effect in the league overall. Imagine a league in which both Madrid, Barcelona, Valencia and Bilbao had like 3 or 4 teams EACH in the highest tier, like you get in other nations. Sadly, Madrid and Barcelona overshadow any other competitors. It's a miracle that Atletico de Madrid and Espanyol have any degree of relevance.
Real madrid
Up the right wing Real Madrid!
Can you stop insertign the absurd monolitic right/left wing divide to everything? its reductive and an extremely disingenuous way to reccontextualize history.
Your comment makes no sense. Politics/national pride is almost directly tied to Football in various European countries (and definitely in South American countries).
Hilbert isn’t randomly injecting a political divide into this history - it’s a literal fact that these clubs had political ideologies associated with them
@@towelzz9873 He called Franco's era Real Madrid "right wing " you know... the team that got the name from Royalty and was victim of numerous prosecutions and exiles from the "right-wing" dictator. Right/Left politics arent universally applicable since outside of the US things are hardly bi-partisan and more complex than a left/right or white/black divide.
Your comment makes no sense, The political ideologies that better fit both teams are Royalist vs Nationalist, not the stupidly reductive "Right & Left"
Real didn't win the Copa del Rey 40 times wtf. The most successful club of that competition is FC Barcelona who won it 31 times, Real only managed to take the trophy home 20 times