Andrew Neil Compares Brexit With Corn Laws Repeal
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- čas přidán 15. 06. 2024
- Andrew Neil is right that Brexit is like the Repeal of the Corn Laws as it has destroyed the Tories and British agriculture.
The Tory Party have been in power for 14 years which, with the help of the LibDems, delivered deeply damaging cuts with austerity and then divided the nation with #brexit referendum. Now the country is holding the Tories responsible for the catastrophe they have ensured, Brexit is destroying them and Farage mops up the vote base which refuses to believe that Brexit is bad for Britain.
#britishfarming
#britishfood
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#agriculture
#farming
#farmingsimulator22
#foodie
#britishpolitics
#generalelection2024
The only party honest about brexit was... The EU.
So...they write in "EU" as their candidate? Could have surprising results...
@@RealMash
Concidering the current state (due to Brexit) of politics in the UK, having the Sweet Mighty EU on the ballot might not be such a bad idea after all.
Your comment reminded me of this video (title): "Inside Brexit: Exclusive Access to EU Negotiations | EPISODE 1 | SLICE EXPERTS".
This docu is brilliant, it brings you very close to Michel Barnier, he comments (live) on the negotiations. It really is a peak into the EU's Brexit engine room.
In a way, a must for anyone affected by Brexit.
There is a second episode too.
"when things get difficult, you must lie", jean claude juncker.
@@Jj-ff9vq And?
Farage has had decades to learn how to talk his way out of the messes he's created. But the rest of us are left to suffer them.
He's a revolting person, and his politics resemble him.
Please tell us what you know about EU fiscal union, EU economic union, EU political union, the unification of member states’ armed forces under command of the European Council, the reckless expansionism of the EU across Eastern Europe, and the unfettered migration into the EU from North Africa and the Middle East, at the EU’s open invitation. It shouldn’t take you long!
@@SJG-nr8uj Spammer!
@@zetectic7968 You need to read the EU's own treaties, documents and declarations. Let's face it, you've never bothered so far! But now's your chance.
1. THE EU’s FEDERAL INTENTIONS (ie. to make one big country)
Lisbon Treaty Article 3.4: “The Union shall establish an ECONOMIC and monetary UNION whose currency is the euro.”
EU Five Presidents’ Report, 2015: “Progress MUST HAPPEN on four fronts: first, towards a genuine ECONOMIC UNION that ensures each economy has the structural features to prosper within the Monetary Union. Second, towards a FINANCIAL UNION that guarantees the integrity of our currency across the Monetary Union and increases risk-sharing with the private sector. This means completing the Banking Union and accelerating the Capital Markets Completing Europe’s Economic and Monetary Union. Third, towards a FISCAL UNION that delivers both fiscal sustainability and fiscal stabilisation. And finally, towards a POLITICAL UNION that provides the foundation for all of the above through genuine democratic accountability, legitimacy and institutional strengthening.”
Angela Merkel’s immediate response to the referendum result, 24th June 2016: “Today is a watershed moment for Europe, and it is a watershed moment for the EUROPEAN UNIFICATION PROCESS. There is no doubt that this is a blow to Europe, and to the EUROPEAN UNIFICATION PROCESS.”
EU Rome Declaration, 25th March 2017: “Working towards COMPLETING the ECONOMIC and monetary UNION” (with a preferred deadline for completion of 2027).
ECB’s ‘Fiscal Implications of the EU Recovery Package’ 2020. “The way that the EU has responded to the crisis also has implications for the future design and implementation of the EUROPEAN GOVERNANCE FRAMEWORK. First, while expansionary fiscal policy is necessary to sustain the recovery, going forward it will be important for the fiscal rules to effectively support the reduction of high government debt in good economic times. Second, NGEU constitutes a new and innovative element of the EUROPEAN FISCAL FRAMEWORK. It will result in the issuance of sizeable supranational debt over the coming years, and its establishment has signalled a political readiness to design a common fiscal tool when the need arises. This innovation, while a one-off, could also imply lessons for ECONOMIC and Monetary UNION, which still lacks a PERMANENT FISCAL CAPACITY AT SUPRANATIONAL LEVEL for macroeconomic stabilisation in deep crises. The review of the ECONOMIC GOVERNANCE FRAMEWORK, which was launched by the Commission in February 2020 and postponed because of the pandemic, provides a GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO INCORPORATE THESE IMPORTANT CONSIDERATIONS.” (NGEU stands for “Next Generation European Union”).
From the EU’s own website: “Once the economic and financial crisis (of 2008/9) was overcome, the EU established a process aimed at reinforcing the architecture of EMU (ECONOMIC and monetary UNION). The process is based on the Five Presidents’ Report on Completing Europe’s Economic and Monetary Union of 2015, which focused on four main issues:
• A genuine ECONOMIC UNION;
• A FINANCIAL UNION;
• A FISCAL UNION;
• A POLITICAL UNION.
These four unions are STRICTLY INTER-RELATED and would develop in parallel. The report was followed by a series of communications, proposals and measures, and the discussion is still ongoing.”
In 2022 all member states reaffirmed their commitment to economic union, as part of Lisbon Treaty Article 3.
From the EU’s website (dated 29/4/24): “Today the Council adopted three pieces of legislation that will reform the EU’s ECONOMIC AND FISCAL GOVERNANCE FRAMEWORK.
‘The main objective of the reform is to ensure sound and sustainable public finances, while promoting sustainable and inclusive growth in all member states through reforms and investment.
The new legislation will significantly improve the existing framework and provide effective and applicable rules for all EU countries. They will safeguard balanced and sustainable public finances, increase the focus on structural reforms and investments to spur growth and job creation throughout the EU. The time is now for a swift implementation’: Vincent Van Peteghem, Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance of Belgium.”
2. THE EU’S MILITARY INTENTIONS
Lisbon Treaty Article 42.3: “Member states shall make civilian and MILITARY capabilities available to the Union for the implementation of the common security and defence policy, to contribute to the objectives DEFINED BY THE EUROPEAN COUNCIL.”
The EU’s military headquarters is the Kortenberg Building in Brussels.
The EU Global Strategy, 30th June 2016, issued exactly one week after the referendum, contains the right of the EU’s military “to act autonomously (of NATO) if and when necessary”.
It will need this, because, as you should know, Lisbon Treaty Article 42 commits member states to the defence of a member under attack. So if Ukraine is still under attack when it joins the EU, it will be the EU which is at war with Russia, not NATO. The defence of Ukraine doesn’t trigger the NATO charter.
On 19th February 2019 Federica Mogherini told an audience in Hamburg: “... all the way through the security spectrum, up to the military operations, because not so many know that the European Union has seventeen deployed missions and operations around the world. So, together, we are already a unique global security provider.” I checked this figure recently. It now stands at twenty-one.
On 23rd April 2019 the European Council issued its Military Command and Control Structures document, outlining its military command structure over member states’ land, sea and air forces. The diagram contained within reappears on the Wikipedia page for the Kortenberg Building, above.
In September 2021 Ursula Von der Leyen said this: “But what we need is the European Defence Union. In the last weeks there have been many discussions on expeditionary forces. On what type and how many we need: battlegroups or EU entry forces. This is no doubt part of the debate - and I believe it will be part of the solution. But the more fundamental issue is why this has not worked in the past. You can have the most advanced forces in the world - but if you are never prepared to use them - of what use are they?”
Last year the EU led joint military exercises in Spain. This is taken from the EU’s CSDP website: “The two-part MILEX 23 exercise commenced on 18 September and concluded on 22 October. The first part of this intense period was a 3-week planning phase by the MPCC in Brussels. In part two, this culminated in the EU’s first ever live military exercise from 16 - 22 October in Rota Naval Base, Cadiz, Spain. During Part 2, an EU Battlegroup-sized force carried out the Operational Plan developed by the MPCC in Part 1. Overall, 19 Member States contributed to MILEX 23.”
(CSDP = Common Security and Defence Policy. MPCC = Military Planning and Conduct Capability).
3. Reckless EU expansionism across Eastern Europe - widely known and reported on, including Albania (hotbed of gangsterism and corruption), Serbia and Montenegro (both traditional allies of Russia), Moldova (part of it coveted by Russia), Ukraine (currently at war with Russia), Turkey (instantly the largest, most populous and poorest country in the EU upon joining) and several others, all of which will bring nothing but a begging bowl to the EU’s table. Oh, except for Ukraine, because, as above, Lisbon Treaty Article 42 commits member states to the military aid of a member under attack. So if Ukraine is still at war upon its accession the EU will be at war with Russia.
4. Unfettered migration into Europe from North Africa and the Middle East (the free movement of people was a secret part of the Euro-Mediterranean Partnership, in effect since 2010, and signed between the EU and Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Egypt, Jordan, Israel, the Palestine Authority, Lebanon, Syria and Turkey). “Eurocrats do not consider (migration) to be a problem, but rather as a project”: Fabrice Leggeri, former Director of the European Border and Coastguard Agency (Frontex). "The European Union and all leaders of all European nations MUST USE IMMIGRATION to undermine the homogeneity and ethnic identity of the native European people no matter how difficult this will be to explain to the citizens of their nations. This must happen, THIS WILL HAPPEN for globalism to take hold of Europe" - Peter Sutherland speaking in the House of Lords in 2014.
All this has been going on while you’ve been asleep for the last fifteen years.
Farage gets an easy ride from the pressall the time.. they treat him like a cheeky happy who makes for a good story instead of the crypto-Nazi racist he really is. No-one talks about Brexit to him even. It’s like trump in 2026.
And hes made a fortune from Brexit.
Yes it’s broken the Conservative Party.
The one and only benefit of Brexit!
🥳🇬🇧
No, it's also broken the Commission - they're only just waking up to the fact nobody respects them. The wave of right-wing self-respect is utterly contrary to their ethos of unaccountable autocracy. Europe itself wasn't a bad idea, how they set about it was disasterous.
Brexit was a crock of shit
..and still is.
Was and IS !
The electoral majority of the UK decided we should not be ruled from Brussels. The EU is a giant, duplicitous, megalomaniac scam.
EU is a bigger one 👍
You forgot the adjective “huge” … just fyi …
Originally, Brexit was a Tory Party question to themselves, it was not raised by anyone else.
Funny how 17.4 million people agreed.
@@williammunny4679 yes scary how easily people can be manipulated
@@williammunny4679 I don't think it's funny at all. I think it's a damning indictment of the British education system.
@@martinhommel9967 As soon as Gordon Brown (Labour) signed the Lisbon Treaty, without the agreement of the people, our departure was inevitable.
As soon as Gordon Brown (Labour) signed the Lisbon Treaty, without the agreement of the people, our departure was inevitable.
Why can't we respect the result of the 1973 referendum?
Because it was crap
@@allnewnow2023 it was Scottish oil and EEC membership that cured the sick man of Europe. 🏴🏴🏴🏴 never forget what you owe Scotland. Because we won't ever.
@@allnewnow2023and the pathetic, rigged, non-supermajority 2015 one was somehow good?
It was a craven act of cowardice.
Because they don't know what democracy is. Democracy is ok when it suits.
And it was in 1975 :)
What were these Brexit supporters expecting to happen if UK left the EU and the single market?
Sovereignty, oh and Emily Thornberry, I think.
Globalism.
lower immigration. look how THAT turned out
Sunny uplands, lots of advantages without any significant disadvantages, full cash registers and lots of money that did not go to the EU and can be used to improve health care. Rainbows and unicorns and streets paved with gold and pockets full of cash for all UK citizens.
What they were told to expect, like lemmings.
The return of Farage in politics is very very bad news for a closer cooperation with the EU. The worst nightmare would be if he becomes the main opposition leader. That would mean an extra delay of minimum 5 years for Rejoin.
Everyone just needs to vote Labour IMV
There is no possibility of re-joining ever. We are now on diverging paths, as in fact we have been since 1992.
@@paullarneI'm not too sure about that divergence. No bonfire of red tape. Shadowing new EU directives.
@@paullarneAccept poverty and isolation then. Don't moan why Labour is not going to grow the economy
@@lizwebstersbf Your passion and determination is very much inspiring Mrs Webster, however I find your faith in Labour disturbing...
Need I remind you the tuition hikes under Labour in 1998 and 2004 ? Need I remind you the huge wave of privatizations under LABOUR as well in the late 90s and early 00s ?
The war in Irak ?
Why not consider the greens or the Rejoin Europe party instead ?
Why vote for traitors to their own class ?
Ironic that Cameron called the referendum to keep the Tory party together and it looks like it'll destroy them
Good 😂
England will need to learn a hard lesson. England is a small country with little heft on the world stage. England and the English need to feel the pain and then they may change their opinions on international relations with our closest allies!
The heart of the matter is that the EU is better off without the English. It's really as simple as that. We do not need an arrogant nation that can't cooperate with others (see also how they treat Scotland or NI in the English dictatorship called the EU) and "thinks" it is better than others. Long live the EU. Long live an EU without the English.
I said before and I'll say it again (and again!): a vote for Brexit was a vote for the US.
*uk is the 2nd biggest economy in Europe- 6th in the world*
Uk isn't some eastern bloc tinpot country..
*"no nation has friends, only interests"*
-Charles De Gaulle.
What nonsense. Britain is one of the most influential and powerful Countries in the world, we have no need for the ball and chain of the EU.
@@sambaliwingo Great I wish you would tell Liz.
Hurrah for Liz Webster! The UK does need to start realignment with Europe. Keep banging the drum on dumping Brexit however possible. ❤🎉😊
Why what's so good about the EU? It's a mess!
@@wendynicholss6886seen the UK recently? 🙄
@@TesterAnimal1 Please tell us what you know about EU fiscal union, EU economic union, EU political union, the unification of member states’ armed forces under command of the European Council, the reckless expansionism of the EU across Eastern Europe, and the unfettered migration into the EU from North Africa and the Middle East, at the EU’s open invitation. It shouldn’t take you long!
@@SJG-nr8uj Definitely a Ruskie bot!
Very well said, Stella Creasey (and Stephen Flynn). If Brexit has broken the Conservative Party, then ... GOOD !!!!
Surely the conservative party broke the conservative party.
Except farage is benefiting!
@@keithhutchins8966 For me it started with Austerity.
@@lizwebstersbf Explain to me, in words of one syllable, so that I can understand, why that is such a bad thing?
@@audreymcgready4329 Was the austerity before or after Brexit?
My fear is that a Labour government will try to ignore Brexit - and therefore be unable to rectify the incredible self-harm it has caused. Then, come the next election, Farage (et al) will say, 'See - nothing much has improved. That's because we never had a proper Brexit - which only we can give you!'. And, as in 2016, many voters will believe him.
Read their policy in the EU.
The Labour govt will not be able to ignore Brexit! It’s about to cause even more mayhem with our food supplies.
@@lizwebstersbfStarmer hasn’t said he is going to ignore Brexit, in fact he stated he is going to try to get alignment on as many issues as possible, but as you know we cannot rejoin nor even join the single market as we are not a member of the EU and these are only available to members or countries in the EEA like Norway. It may be possible to join the Customs Union like Turkey but we already have a trade deal with the EU (the Trade and Cooperation Agreement) although it could be improved by agreement. Angela Rayner can honestly say they won’t rejoin (in the next parliament which is all they are talking about) as she knows it’s impossible to do so, given the rules for joining, which we don’t currently comply with nor look like doing so any time soon. This doesn’t mean Labour can’t talk to the EU about what would be required to rejoin or improving the trade agreement but that’s something all 27 members would have to agree on. Brexit was always going to be very damaging but the Brexit delivered by the Conservatives was dreadful.
Starmer has actually said he would be willing to speak to the EU to try and join the single market again, which was the biggest Tory mistake ever. It has driven food prices through the roof because we haven't got that free movement with being in the single market.
The Tories love to heap misery on people and tell them the most hideous and evil of lies to achieve that
@@bluemotion14 It would be good if he can but not sure how, given we could probably only get an EEA deal and Norway have said they are opposed to this as our GDP is too large. Maybe some concessions can be agreed. Also as we know the EEA single market membership is as a rule taker, which would cause the right to have a massive tantrum.
David Cameron has broken the Tory party.
He began it, then Johnson broke it further.
@erikzoe1 agreed but Johnson would never have been allowed the spotlight without Cameron's feckless incompetence.
@@edcoad4930 That is very true.
Until the politicians recognise that we have the BRexit Elephant in the room and start talking nowt much will change. The majority see it as a mistake and a growing majority want back in. Many things must happen before that but talking openly is the first step.
There are four possible ways in which the European Union could collapse, all of which the EU is heading straight for, due to its own arrogance and megalomaniac stupidity:
1. Revolt by its member states' politicians, for example against fixed migrant quotas. Poland, Hungary and the Netherlands have already told the EU to get stuffed on this issue.
2. Revolt by its member states' peoples, against the imposition of a federal government they can never vote into or out of office. There is absolutely no democratic mandate for this, but the EU wants economic union, the final stepping stone before political union, complete by 2027. This could lead to rioting, violence and wars of independence.
3. War with Russia. Lisbon Treaty Article 42 commits member states to the military defence of a member state under attack. And the EU wants Ukraine in by 2030.
4. The Islamification of Europe, orchestrated by the European Union (per the Euro-Mediterranean Project, in effect since 2010).
These are all coming straight down the track, and one or more of these will cause the demise of the EU within the next few years. The EU is a dead man walking.
@@SJG-nr8uj A valid demonstration of not knowing how the EU works and it's underlying principles. Try some research. The main wish thinker for the demise of the EU is Putin, that is why he invested in the UK's Leave Campaign.
Wasn't just Brexit that destroyed the Tories. It all started with Austerity.
Indeed, brexit was a misdirected protest vote against austerity.
@@tonyb9735 Good observation.
@@keithhutchins8966 I don't think that Tony was talking about you personally Keith, just referring to the well documented research that has been done on this topic.
@@TheBadVideoMaker People voted in the way that they did their own many and diverse reasons. Ok. I can accept that a survey was completed, but I must be in a minority as that wasn't the reason I voted to leave. In fact that is that is the first time I have heard of that particular reason for the 'wrong' result. As I appear to have got it wrong on this occasion, I apologise for my overreaction and will delete the comment. Sorry and thank you for politely pointing out my error.
And the Tories destroyed Britain in the process 😢
Turns out the EU was just a scapegoat and wasn't, in fact, the reason for Britain's woes.
100%
Please tell us what you know about EU fiscal union, EU economic union, EU political union, the unification of member states’ armed forces under command of the European Council, the reckless expansionism of the EU across Eastern Europe, and the unfettered migration into the EU from North Africa and the Middle East, at the EU’s open invitation. It shouldn’t take you long!
@@SJG-nr8uj Such a W⚓spamming the same comment. Just makes you look stupid.
@@SJG-nr8uj ... You do know Britain had a veto and a favored membership right?
You REALLY shouldn't take your news from Russian websites. They tend to be quite innacurate and biased.
Nobody said it was, it was about who makes our law. Our elected representatives, or unelected bureaucrats in Brussels.
We wanted the power back here so we have control of the law rather than just doing what Brussels tells us.
The Lib Dem’s manifesto called for joining the Single Market. It is the only political party that is having joining the single market in their manifesto.
You can't only join the single market. That was a big part of the whole disengagement from the EU was that the four freedoms. Single market, free movement, and the other two that slip my memory at the moment were indivisible. You either had them all or none. It was the EU that insisted on that. You don't have to be part of the single market to sell to Europe, china isn't part of the single market and yet they sell into it .
This woman talks nonsense. If she can support labour, then she wasn't a conservative.
Might as well promise communion at Mass without joining the Catholic church. Doesn't work that way.
@@user-it7lf7kk8m ' It was the EU that insisted on that.' Of course it was. It's an EU rule.
Which is one of the reasons I’ll be voting for them this time around. Plus, Labour don’t stand a chance here but the Lib Dem’s could topple the Tories as they do now control the local council and our constituency boundary almost exactly matches the local borough boundary.
@@buzzukfiftythreegood! Tactical voting. I like it.
The only honest person was obamma ' leave & you will be at the back of the queue 🤷♂️ 🇬🇧
If Obama was the honest one then we are dealing with some very dodgy characters.
It doesn't matter now ' does it ' its a grin & bear it situation 🤔@@keithhutchins8966
@@keithhutchins8966 Thats politics 😁
@@Leon-lt5gv You are right and we still have to deal with them.
@@keithhutchins8966 yep ' legalised criminals ' their about as straight as a crowbar 😁
I said this at the very beginning of leaving eu, I said this would destroy the Tory party, it will also destroy the labour party, it will distract and interfere with running the country.
I wonder how Labour is going to handel the trade bariers because of Brexit without joining the single market, the EU won't allow cherrypicking and there will be no renegotiations.
We can do a Norway or Swiss deal. But we will be rule takers rather than makers. But that is the price of our exit.
You just have to google what the EU said to GB Farage and Co. There are no sectoral agreements! MAY wanted to bring about sectoral agreements by attempting to blackmail the EU with NO DEAL BREXIT! Johnson later played the same game. It completely blew up in their faces with the BREXIT disaster!
Small adjustments are being made by the EU, nothing more. Everything else from GB politicians is lies, as always!!
@@akosiamarillo The EU doesn't want that. There will be no renegotiations.
@@bertoverweel6588 then we are fucked! exit deal may not be renegotiated but some other ways can be done like what was done in NI
It won't happen. Easy..😂💪🏻🖕🏻
Wikipedia says this: 'According to one 2021 study, the repeal of the Corn Laws benefitted the bottom 90% of income earners in the United Kingdom economically, while causing income losses for the top 10% of income earners'. So, the farmers want to benefit at the expense of the poorest in the UK- which is why they voted for Brexit in the first place. The farmers are cakeists.
Disingenuous comment, the reference to the corn laws is made for its parallel deleterious effect on the Conservative Party, nothing more.
Very good to put Brexit on the table. You can't eat it but you can mention the problems to get food on the table.
Seriously? Where are all the emaciated Brits? I see only fat ones on my local high street. Your absurd comment is an insult to the history of Ireland and Stalinist Russia, where people did actually run out of food and die in millions.
Now please tell us what you know about EU fiscal union, EU economic union, EU political union, the unification of member states’ armed forces under command of the European Council, the reckless expansionism of the EU across Eastern Europe, and the unfettered migration into the EU from North Africa and the Middle East, at the EU’s open invitation. It shouldn’t take you long!
@@SJG-nr8uj At this stage I'm thinking you might be working for Putin!
Brexit has destroyed the Tory party. Well, at least some good has come out of it!!!!
And, what about major Andrew Neil's role in this debacle???? He seems more concerned about the tory party and not his country! What a twerp!
Liz and the UK as a whole, just 1 question. Since 2016 the UK knew what was coming, so then, why is the UK not ready yet?
Frenchman here. None of my business but I believe the UK belongs to the European family of nations and unlike what many Brexiter said, the UK was treated very decently. It was BoJo who insisted on botching the TCA for calendar reasons. If fact BoJo and Co started a fire against the EU that the UK could not control later but conveniently helped with a smake screen to hide very un-British behaviour.
In the EU, because it is DEMOCRATIC, we had no desire to stop the UK from leaving but many warned the UK about what huge error this would be (I was still working in the UK in 2016 and I could verify that Brexiters were totally brain-washed and no sensible discussion could take place. The UK "a pété les plombs" (the UK blew its fuses, I want out, I want out).
Now many complain about Brexit (Not my Brexit, BRINO) but the courage to call a spade a spade is missing. Here, in the EU we will still welcome the UK back if you want (I you don't this absolutely NOT a problem for us) BUT it will be on Standard Terms & Conditions. NO waiver, NO rebate, NO avoidance of the Euro Schengen and a HUGE majority asking clearly to join the EU). Many countries - including mine (France) - will be DEAD against ANY preferential treament.
Absolutely spot on.
The French voted against the European Constitution. So did the Dutch. It was the blueprint for the federal European state (ie. one big country, political union, "The United States of Europe"). In response to it rejection the EU simply rewrote it as the Lisbon Treaty and it went through anyway, in complete defiance of the wishes of the French and the Dutch electorates. All member states are now screwed.
it will NEVER HAPPEN. only countries that have lost major wars like Germany in ww2 would accept that.
frances economy is less than the UK- you don't have a stick to beat us with..
You have just stated yourself why the UK will never rejoin.. the euro..
and spain would want gibralter as a prize..and veto until it gets gibralter.
and that will never happen, no more than france will hand over corse to the italians..
Goodbye EU!
169 countries outside.. they manage just fine!
Who'd have thought it, leaving the biggest trade organisation right next to us has caused us economic problems
We had to take an economic hit in order to escape the giant, duplicitous, megalomaniac scam. If you don't realise it's a scam, that's because you've been scammed.
The comments by the Labour leadership are depressing. Stella Creasey has been on point for a long time. We need the barriers to trade to be removed. We also need free movement back. Since Brexit we’ve had a jump in legal immigration, but from farther away countries.
Do we need the political obligations that go with it ? EU demands no cherry picking, it's all or nothing. Maybe we need to look a little beyond re-joining the EU, as that is not the end of the journey.
The UK has full control over that immigration, so if it is not wanted, why not act on it.
Removing the existing trade barriers will not happen in the short to medium turn (those come with being a 3rd country) and fom is part of eu membership.
@@ab-ym3bf Maybe we can ask the incoming prime minister, whoever that maybe.
@@keithhutchins8966 you can ask whomever becomes pm in the UK, but it is not up to him/her.
And the EU has already said more than once, no renegotiation, no cherry picking.
@@ab-ym3bf You give me hope.
Vote tactically; vote Lib Dem, Labour, SNP, whoever, that gets the Tory's out
Great research Liz, brilliant parallel.
Disgusting that we have to appease the 'warm beer and spitfires' brigade.
Please tell us what you know about EU fiscal union, EU economic union, EU political union, the unification of member states’ armed forces under command of the European Council, the reckless expansionism of the EU across Eastern Europe, and the unfettered migration into the EU from North Africa and the Middle East, at the EU’s open invitation. It shouldn’t take you long!
@@SJG-nr8uj Russian fascists don't like the EU either!
@@gerryclarke9795 I'm pretty sure they don't. However, that's beside the point. I report on the Eu's own treaties, documents and declarations, which you haven't read. Now's your chance.
1. THE EU’s FEDERAL INTENTIONS (ie. to make one big country)
Lisbon Treaty Article 3.4: “The Union shall establish an ECONOMIC and monetary UNION whose currency is the euro.”
EU Five Presidents’ Report, 2015: “Progress MUST HAPPEN on four fronts: first, towards a genuine ECONOMIC UNION that ensures each economy has the structural features to prosper within the Monetary Union. Second, towards a FINANCIAL UNION that guarantees the integrity of our currency across the Monetary Union and increases risk-sharing with the private sector. This means completing the Banking Union and accelerating the Capital Markets Completing Europe’s Economic and Monetary Union. Third, towards a FISCAL UNION that delivers both fiscal sustainability and fiscal stabilisation. And finally, towards a POLITICAL UNION that provides the foundation for all of the above through genuine democratic accountability, legitimacy and institutional strengthening.”
Angela Merkel’s immediate response to the referendum result, 24th June 2016: “Today is a watershed moment for Europe, and it is a watershed moment for the EUROPEAN UNIFICATION PROCESS. There is no doubt that this is a blow to Europe, and to the EUROPEAN UNIFICATION PROCESS.”
EU Rome Declaration, 25th March 2017: “Working towards COMPLETING the ECONOMIC and monetary UNION” (with a preferred deadline for completion of 2027).
ECB’s ‘Fiscal Implications of the EU Recovery Package’ 2020. “The way that the EU has responded to the crisis also has implications for the future design and implementation of the EUROPEAN GOVERNANCE FRAMEWORK. First, while expansionary fiscal policy is necessary to sustain the recovery, going forward it will be important for the fiscal rules to effectively support the reduction of high government debt in good economic times. Second, NGEU constitutes a new and innovative element of the EUROPEAN FISCAL FRAMEWORK. It will result in the issuance of sizeable supranational debt over the coming years, and its establishment has signalled a political readiness to design a common fiscal tool when the need arises. This innovation, while a one-off, could also imply lessons for ECONOMIC and Monetary UNION, which still lacks a PERMANENT FISCAL CAPACITY AT SUPRANATIONAL LEVEL for macroeconomic stabilisation in deep crises. The review of the ECONOMIC GOVERNANCE FRAMEWORK, which was launched by the Commission in February 2020 and postponed because of the pandemic, provides a GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO INCORPORATE THESE IMPORTANT CONSIDERATIONS.” (NGEU stands for “Next Generation European Union”).
From the EU’s own website: “Once the economic and financial crisis (of 2008/9) was overcome, the EU established a process aimed at reinforcing the architecture of EMU (ECONOMIC and monetary UNION). The process is based on the Five Presidents’ Report on Completing Europe’s Economic and Monetary Union of 2015, which focused on four main issues:
• A genuine ECONOMIC UNION;
• A FINANCIAL UNION;
• A FISCAL UNION;
• A POLITICAL UNION.
These four unions are STRICTLY INTER-RELATED and would develop in parallel. The report was followed by a series of communications, proposals and measures, and the discussion is still ongoing.”
In 2022 all member states reaffirmed their commitment to economic union, as part of Lisbon Treaty Article 3.
From the EU’s website (dated 29/4/24): “Today the Council adopted three pieces of legislation that will reform the EU’s ECONOMIC AND FISCAL GOVERNANCE FRAMEWORK.
‘The main objective of the reform is to ensure sound and sustainable public finances, while promoting sustainable and inclusive growth in all member states through reforms and investment.
The new legislation will significantly improve the existing framework and provide effective and applicable rules for all EU countries. They will safeguard balanced and sustainable public finances, increase the focus on structural reforms and investments to spur growth and job creation throughout the EU. The time is now for a swift implementation’: Vincent Van Peteghem, Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance of Belgium.”
2. THE EU’S MILITARY INTENTIONS
Lisbon Treaty Article 42.3: “Member states shall make civilian and MILITARY capabilities available to the Union for the implementation of the common security and defence policy, to contribute to the objectives DEFINED BY THE EUROPEAN COUNCIL.”
The EU’s military headquarters is the Kortenberg Building in Brussels.
The EU Global Strategy, 30th June 2016, issued exactly one week after the referendum, contains the right of the EU’s military “to act autonomously (of NATO) if and when necessary”.
It will need this, because, as you should know, Lisbon Treaty Article 42 commits member states to the defence of a member under attack. So if Ukraine is still under attack when it joins the EU, it will be the EU which is at war with Russia, not NATO. The defence of Ukraine doesn’t trigger the NATO charter.
On 19th February 2019 Federica Mogherini told an audience in Hamburg: “... all the way through the security spectrum, up to the military operations, because not so many know that the European Union has seventeen deployed missions and operations around the world. So, together, we are already a unique global security provider.” I checked this figure recently. It now stands at twenty-one.
On 23rd April 2019 the European Council issued its Military Command and Control Structures document, outlining its military command structure over member states’ land, sea and air forces. The diagram contained within reappears on the Wikipedia page for the Kortenberg Building, above.
In September 2021 Ursula Von der Leyen said this: “But what we need is the European Defence Union. In the last weeks there have been many discussions on expeditionary forces. On what type and how many we need: battlegroups or EU entry forces. This is no doubt part of the debate - and I believe it will be part of the solution. But the more fundamental issue is why this has not worked in the past. You can have the most advanced forces in the world - but if you are never prepared to use them - of what use are they?”
Last year the EU led joint military exercises in Spain. This is taken from the EU’s CSDP website: “The two-part MILEX 23 exercise commenced on 18 September and concluded on 22 October. The first part of this intense period was a 3-week planning phase by the MPCC in Brussels. In part two, this culminated in the EU’s first ever live military exercise from 16 - 22 October in Rota Naval Base, Cadiz, Spain. During Part 2, an EU Battlegroup-sized force carried out the Operational Plan developed by the MPCC in Part 1. Overall, 19 Member States contributed to MILEX 23.”
(CSDP = Common Security and Defence Policy. MPCC = Military Planning and Conduct Capability).
3. Reckless EU expansionism across Eastern Europe - widely known and reported on, including Albania (hotbed of gangsterism and corruption), Serbia and Montenegro (both traditional allies of Russia), Moldova (part of it coveted by Russia), Ukraine (currently at war with Russia), Turkey (instantly the largest, most populous and poorest country in the EU upon joining) and several others, all of which will bring nothing but a begging bowl to the EU’s table. Oh, except for Ukraine, because, as above, Lisbon Treaty Article 42 commits member states to the military aid of a member under attack. So if Ukraine is still at war upon its accession the EU will be at war with Russia.
4. Unfettered migration into Europe from North Africa and the Middle East (the free movement of people was a secret part of the Euro-Mediterranean Partnership, in effect since 2010, and signed between the EU and Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Egypt, Jordan, Israel, the Palestine Authority, Lebanon, Syria and Turkey). “Eurocrats do not consider (migration) to be a problem, but rather as a project”: Fabrice Leggeri, former Director of the European Border and Coastguard Agency (Frontex). "The European Union and all leaders of all European nations MUST USE IMMIGRATION to undermine the homogeneity and ethnic identity of the native European people no matter how difficult this will be to explain to the citizens of their nations. This must happen, THIS WILL HAPPEN for globalism to take hold of Europe" - Peter Sutherland speaking in the House of Lords in 2014.
All this has been going on while you’ve been asleep for the last fifteen years.
im more schnapps and bf 109 material.. or a stonking fw190...
Forget about the Tory party , what about the country and our children ?!?
Vote *REFORM*
everyone with a brain knows it has been and continues to be a disaster. the fact that the political class won't admit it is a disgrace
Does the UK need to join the EU in some shape or form?
- Yes
Does the people of EUrope want the UK in the Sweet Mighty EU?
- Questionable, maybe if placed under some sort of Probation beeing stripped of voting rights until we in the EU see UK fit for membership.
Are there anyway to be fast-tracked into the EU system?
- Yes, the northern occupied part of Ireland will get a free ride back in as one United island. And Scotland going solo have the support of a overwhelming majority of EU citizens, should that be what the people of Scotland Democraticly decide they want for their country.
- As for england, I see no openings in a near future...
The opinions of the people of Europe do not matter to the EU so that statement has no relevance
@@MRW515
@MRW515 Clearly you are not aware of how the EU works, in some countries and in some cases even regions will hold a direct vote by the people to decide such matters, besides at large our politicians in the EU are more trustworthy then yours and are held to account by the people of respective nation. And when it comes to Scotland, also high ranking officials within the EU system have already showed support for Scotland, so your comment have no connection with reality!
@@mfredholm that's very patronising, ok lets put your knowledge to the test:
1) When did the citizens of EU vote for von der leyen?
2) When did the EU citizens vote to slash 90 percent of the bloc’s emissions by 2040 which resulted in the recent farmers protests?
3) 3 April 2022, Viktor Orbán was democratically elected, but the European Union's top court has fined Hungary €200m for failing to follow the union's asylum policies. Hungarians (and Poles) do not wish to be involved in the EU asylum policy.
4) Which EU commissioners have been held to account, and for what?
@@mfredholmI can't believe you trust any politicians at all !
@@MRW515Good points. Well made.
Maybe if farmers had overwhelmingly rejected the idea 🙄
Please tell us what you know about EU fiscal union, EU economic union, EU political union, the unification of member states’ armed forces under command of the European Council, the reckless expansionism of the EU across Eastern Europe, and the unfettered migration into the EU from North Africa and the Middle East, at the EU’s open invitation. It shouldn’t take you long!
@@SJG-nr8uj Aiden Wrenn
The European Union (EU) is a political and economic union of 27 European countries that work together to promote peace, stability, and prosperity in the region. Here is a brief overview of the topics you mentioned:
EU Fiscal Union: The EU fiscal union refers to closer coordination of economic policies and fiscal measures among EU member states. This includes rules on budget deficits, debt levels, and economic reforms to ensure stability and growth within the Eurozone.
The EU economic union aims to create a single market with free movement of goods, services, capital, and labor among member states. It also includes a common trade policy and a common currency, the Euro, used by 19 of the EU countries.
EU Political Union: The EU political union involves the development of common foreign and security policies, as well as cooperation in areas such as justice and home affairs. The EU institutions, such as the European Council and the European Parliament, play a key role in shaping EU policies.
Unification of Member States' Armed Forces: While there have been discussions about closer military cooperation among EU member states, the unification of armed forces under the command of the European Council has not been fully realized. The EU does have a Common Security and Defense Policy (CSDP) that allows for joint military missions and operations.
Reckless Expansionism in Eastern Europe: The EU has expanded its membership to include several Eastern European countries in recent years. While some critics may view this expansion as reckless, the EU enlargement process is based on democratic principles and the desire to promote stability and prosperity in the region.
Unfettered Migration from North Africa and the Middle East: The EU has faced challenges related to migration from North Africa and the Middle East, particularly during the refugee crisis in 2015. The EU has implemented various measures to manage migration flows, including border controls, asylum policies, and cooperation with countries of origin and transit.
Overall, the EU is a complex political and economic entity that aims to promote cooperation and integration among its member states while addressing various challenges and opportunities.
The UK is many billions of pounds worse off for leaving it. Maybe you can explain the benefits. Shouldn't take you long.
Lovely how you seemingly have command of an argument yet are still blind to the whole we live in.
Farage mr I'm a celebrity ...stood down his brexit party candidates in the 2019 election the Tories got a eighty seat majority and we got the awful oven ready deal and yet the media don't call him out on it .
Please tell us what you know about EU fiscal union, EU economic union, EU political union, the unification of member states’ armed forces under command of the European Council, the reckless expansionism of the EU across Eastern Europe, and the unfettered migration into the EU from North Africa and the Middle East, at the EU’s open invitation. Nobody calls Remoaners out on what you voted in favour of.
Andrew is correct.
This is a defining moment in UK political history.
Brexit has unravelled the Tories.
The herd has moved.
So now please tell us what you know about EU fiscal union, EU economic union, EU political union, the unification of member states’ armed forces under command of the European Council, the reckless expansionism of the EU across Eastern Europe, and the unfettered migration into the EU from North Africa and the Middle East, at the EU’s open invitation. It shouldn’t take you long!
@@SJG-nr8uj What?
Why? I am commenting on the inevitable collapse of the Tories over Brexit. Not advocating for EU membership.
@@stephfoxwell4620 "Brexit has unravelled the Tories". That was your comment. Do you not think that the 17.4 million people, who voted against the EU's giant, duplicitous, megalomaniac scam were in some way involved in the unravelling of the Tories? You seem to think they were.
If English Westminster doesn’t want to rejoin the EU then Scotland 🏴 as an independent country will
You would be most welcome. A positive, constructive, progressive, kind, generous nation is waht the EU needs more of.
Sturgeon already tried that and the EU basically told her they're not interested in Scotland alone as England is where all the money is. Also... what happens if Le Penn becomes the next French PM? The first thing she's going to do is pull France out of the EU, then Germany will follow. The Hungarians want out, even the Polish people are fed up with the EU trying to force immigration on them. So we rejoin when everyone else leaves? That'll be smart.
@@TheStormblooper-100 "The EU" said no such thing laughable little English"man". And "Le Penn" (sic) isn't even standing to become the next French PM.
"Educated" in England were you? It does show. You know less than nothing.
@@sambaliwingo Exactly the kind of reply I expected and you didn't disappoint little angry man.
No, I wasn't educated in England and I'm not English. A very predictable assumption on your part, though. 😉
That ship has sailed. England opened the gate and dared Scotland to bolt. But 55% of Scots believed more in England than in Scotland and voted to keep living in the attic. England smiled, closed the gate, and won't open it up again. Sad, but that's how it is.
I haven't watched any of the debates so far, I'm 90% sure about who I'll be voting for & 100% sure about the 2 I won't be voting for.
I'll guess your voting reform party.
@@jedjones9047 There has never been any cases of insanity in my family tree & I won't be the first, you've got more chance of winning the lottery 3 weeks running than getting me to ever vote Tory or Reform.
@@jedjones9047 I've already told my 2 kids that if ever I show any inclination to vote Reform they have my permission to put a pillow over my face & put me out of my misery.
I won’t be voting for the Green loons or the Faragists either.
Are we sorry the Tory party is broken? About as sorry as not having a hole in the head
It's not only broken the Tory party it's broken everything.
Another great video Liz , great to hear you speak on the Sussex coast last week , keep up the fight for British food 👍
Thank you ☺️
I hope you're right, I'll be voting labour but I can't see how they'll get rid of brexit when they keep saying they're going to make it work. 🇪🇺
Keep hearing we respect the referendum. Are the same people respecting the results of the 2019 election? Times and people's attitudes change.
Thank you Liz for showing this season’s unproductive land on your beautiful farm - shocking!
Wrong the tories have broken the tories all by themselves
You should always remind people why it is essential that Labour has a supermassive majority (>250) to ensure the Tories and Reform cannot block a rapprochement with the EU, if they will have us. When Farage talks about "new markets" I think he'll find they are theoretical rather than real.
Please tell us what you know about EU fiscal union, EU economic union, EU political union, the unification of member states’ armed forces under command of the European Council, the reckless expansionism of the EU across Eastern Europe, and the unfettered migration into the EU from North Africa and the Middle East, at the EU’s open invitation. It shouldn’t take you long!
Looking for a strong character, man or preferably woman, who will have the guts to shout out : Stop this nonsense and let's rejoin the EU.
Not welcome back in the EU. We have learned our lesson.
After May and ESPECIALLY economy killer Truss, on what demonstrable beneficiary basis prefer a woman?
@@sambaliwingo For once you are talking sense! We don't want to be in your giant, megalomaniac scam.
hahahahahahahahhahaahah
you could live 100 more years it wont happen!- get over it!
But the mess is going to be there for a long time. I read Manifesto after Manifesto and unlike you I am not persuaded the the Labour front bench have any commercial or agricultural experience. The Conservatives have shot their fox and Brexit is their irresponsible outcome.- judging by the phytosanitary checks in operation more barriers are incrementally in use and Agriculture is the victim as well as the consumer - notwithstanding your heroic upholding of essential standards. In my view the whole of Brexit has to be reversed before we have that elusive common standard in operation across the EEA.
Some of the Tories don't care. They make money with the financial institutions that have already thrown all EU rules overboard. That is why the export figures are so high. Black money from all over the world is already being traded in........ London.
That was The whole purpose of Brexit: deregulating The economy so that The wealthiest in society would get even wealthier. Assuming zero or slow growth, It would be detrimental to The poorest in society Who complained about austerity but paradoxically voted for Brexit against their own interests ... But now they can wave The flag 🇬🇧
This is absolute madness. If Labour's refusal to consider rejoining the single market and customs union is true, they will be lucky to last one parliament, as the UK will continue its downward spiral.
Labour cannot refuse what is not available.
@@ab-ym3bf Note the use of the word consider.
@@michaeljudd8001 there is nothing to consider when it is not an option.
Or, in your words, note the words "not available".
169 countries outside the EU.. reform is rising!
The Tory party has NEVER accepted the idea that joining the EU was (on the whole) beneficial for trade/ business. So it’s impossible for the Tories to seek closer ties, let alone rejoin. They’d rather perform political harakiri, which is what they’re now doing, actually.
And the addition of thousands of laws making it against our constitution? No one ever had a problem with the common market in the beginning, but they wanted control, not produce!
EU is also pushing lot of anti-monopoly, customer protection, citizen-protection, anti-corruption, pro-ecologic and pro-human rights policies. Tories HATE people, and hate such policies.
I also left the Lib Dem’s as they lost the plot about Europe. F knows what is going on in their heads but hey?
They are libertarians, the orange book and Paul Marshall.
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jun/27/guardian-view-liberal-democrats-orange-book
Whoa, what now??????? The conservatives got us into dis mess!
Let’s get back into the single market that will do guys it’s better than nothing
You can't. You've been told this endlessly. SM access is through EU membership
Cameron didn't realize that the EU Referendum was a Trojan horse for the far-right.
Everyone who voted for the Tories to get Brexit done were informed that Johnson was a liar. They were also informed what would happen if we left the EU. They chose not to listen to the criticism and they doubled down on jingoism.
They KNEW what they were voting for.
And who's f***ing fault is that then , what expertise to state the f***ing obvious, quickly give him another wheelbarrow full of cash
The TCA wasn't a "bad deal" it was a very good deal. What they mean is the TCA is bad compared to EU membership. Well duh! Stop blaming the TCA deal and start blaming Brexit..
Good for you Liz!
I have said this many times, but if you're going to have a House of Lords (reformed), Liz Webster is made for it. A person who has tried to do as much good as possible for her sector. Keep going Liz, it's working 👍
Quite surprising the tone one gets from Angela Reyna. - It's not happening except maybe in 30 years' time, given the UK would need to join the ever-closer union.
You joined the "ever closer union" when you joined on your third attempt you came begging for EEC membership. "Ever closer union" has been around ever since 1957.
You're not welcome back. The EU is better off without a nation run by liars and thieves who look down upon others. Brexit is the kindest thing the English ever did for the EU. Good riddance.
If the Labour party were commited to an exit from brexit i would have no concern voting for them.
Precisely my fear...🤔
Please tell us what you know about EU fiscal union, EU economic union, EU political union, the unification of member states’ armed forces under command of the European Council, the reckless expansionism of the EU across Eastern Europe, and the unfettered migration into the EU from North Africa and the Middle East, at the EU’s open invitation. It shouldn’t take you long!
@@SJG-nr8uj Obvious troll is obvious. "reckless expansionism of the EU across Eastern Europe"? go back to moscow
You can't join the Single Market without joining the EU. EFTA indicated Britain can't join it, either.
Given the number of comments containing such nonsensical claims, after 8 years the brits are none the wiser about the EU.
Dear Farmers, how does that saying go again, oh yeah ..."Be careful what you wish for...!"
Which applies to pretty much every sector in England, as the majority in most voted for Brexit
This is what I've been saying over and over. If your main goal from the upcoming election is to send a strong message to politicians that you see brexit as stupid, then voting for Labour is a wasted vote. There may be good reasons to not vote Tory, but getting the message over about brexit is not one of them.
Labour have given business assurance they will deal with Brexit trade barriers. That is why I’m voting Labour.
@@lizwebstersbf The UK has made pacts with other countries to allow sub standard products such as GM meats into the UK. This means we in the EU have to examine what you are shipping to us. Those costs won't be going away. You might consider abandoning plans to inspect products from the EU entering the UK but don't forget, we in the EU are not required to adhere to EU standards for exports. So Labour cannot abandon import checks. I am certain Labour will win, I'm not certain they can improve the situation unilaterally.
@@NickAskew They can do exactly nothing in the short term-regulative alignment only works with someone you can trust.
After the UKs behavior? And the garbage they are importing? The judgements against the UK because of mis-declaring clothing they imported from china and the re-exported to the EU, be cleaning wool from china-while they were still EU members?
Will not work.
They need to implement Copenhagen Criteria and follow article 49.
And be fast, as the requirements for membership get stricter.
They will need 20 years at least.
But it will not go faster if they wait any longer.
It will only take longer....
@@lizwebstersbfLabour assurances?
If the EU says no, it is no, no matter what Labour has "assured".
The UK will remain a 3rd country, with ntb's. The EU has made clear itnisnoerfecrly happy with the current TCA, especially when it will finally be implemented in full by the UK.
Brexit is indeed stupid, but the most important thing right now is to get this incompetent bunch of self serving Tory weasels out of government
Farage is pure shat….
Brexit is the concrete boot that Britain has to limp forward with. Britboot.
The UK would have to accept EU law and regulations on a wide range of issues, including trade, goods, services, and labour. I don’t see that happening as polls suggest that the British public is divided on the issue, with a significant proportion opposed to it.
As abrupt and irreversible, climate changes accelerate the EU is going look after its own food supply disruption. Britain needs to prepare for food supply shortages and rationing. Planning now will take time to make sure we have measures in place to keep social order. Having local governments prepare people to grow vegetables in their own gardens and parks will be challenging. We must prepare now.
baloney!- uk had grain mountains, butter mountains and beef mountains in the late 70s and 80s all stockpiled to the roof.. keep on dreaming about food shortages..
Except Johnson took us out of the EU DURING BREXIT. Neil has a very convenient and inaccurate, memory..
Brexit,Covid,Johnson,Truss.Have smashed the concensus in the Conservative Party.
I’m not following the problem with the LD’s? They have joining the single market in their manifesto? That means regulatory alignment, whereas Labour hasn’t specifically set out a path to better the better alignment they mention, as far as I know?
I wouldn't sell that grain if I were you, you may really need it during the winter yourself. Because the grain harvests in the EU are also disappointing, it will be decided at the end of August whether the EU food safety law will come into effect. If it comes into effect, only a small amount of grain can be shipped from Europe to third countries. The EU will then determine how much can be exported.
Sorry to see this and worried about the "no" from Rayner. Hoping that with a huge majority they might change their minds and revert this madness. From across the Irish Sea, I sympathise.
Labour will begin the re-entry as long as they get a big enough majority.
@@lizwebstersbf
Labour won't have enough time in government to make any changes that will take the UK going back into the EU. They will win then be kicked out in 5 years time, whether or not they decide to move closer to our European neighbours.
@@trytellingthetruth.2068for once I agree.
People are expecting miracles from Labour, to solve issues that have been systemic for long before brexit.
Applying for membership - if desired- is a long term project, the UK needs to start filling in what the slogan "make brexit work" actually means.
I see Never tells the truth is spoofing again, I believe he's been paid in potatoes now, the Rubble not worth much now!
It must be a great relief for mogg to see his brexit benefits coming through he couldn't see them coming even as special minister for benifits
20,000 doctors left because of brexit, we need a referendum
baloney..
they move to australia for 30% better pay, and better weather.. i live in Australia and many come here..
I just can't understand the Labour Party flatly refusing rejoining the SM or CU .
It may well be the case that labour end up with an almost 200 seat majority .
This would mean the electorate have rejected what's gone on in the last five years of politics .
It kinda opens everything back up again for renegotiation , Starmer and labour need a rethink on EU policy because the British people have rejected brexit .
It is very limited what is available to the UK. There is the possibility of dynamic SPS alignment, which Liz is calling for, but not a lot else in terms of trade
Andrew: you were part of the Brexit con.
Own it.
The whole point of democracy is that the electorate can change their mind. We should rejoin asap or our economic outlook will continue to decline.
The UK is importing lots of cannabis from Canada and California, and cannabis resin from Morocco.
UK politicians don't seem to like growth...
We are linked in defence in Nato Penny.When the US tells us to jump we do.
True but, you get to ask how high
Brexit has Broken Britain...
No, it has saved it. You just haven't realised it yet.
@@SJG-nr8uj Nah...from here in Spain, Cabbage Island is a laughing stock
@@georgeatkinson759 There are four possible ways in which the European Union could collapse, all of which the EU is heading straight for, due to its own arrogance and megalomaniac stupidity:
1. Revolt by its member states' politicians, for example against fixed migrant quotas. Poland, Hungary and the Netherlands have already told the EU to get stuffed on this issue.
2. Revolt by its member states' peoples, against the imposition of a federal government they can never vote into or out of office. There is absolutely no democratic mandate for this, but the EU wants economic union, the final stepping stone before political union, complete by 2027. This could lead to rioting, violence and wars of independence.
3. War with Russia. Lisbon Treaty Article 42 commits member states to the military defence of a member state under attack. And the EU wants Ukraine in by 2030.
4. The Islamification of Europe, orchestrated by the European Union (per the Euro-Mediterranean Project, in effect since 2010).
These are all coming straight down the track, and one or more of these will cause the demise of the EU within the next few years. The EU is a dead man walking.
@@SJG-nr8uj conjecture, conspiracy and a touch of fantasy...
@@georgeatkinson759 Try telling that to the European Union!
1. THE EU’s FEDERAL INTENTIONS (ie. to make one big country)
Lisbon Treaty Article 3.4: “The Union shall establish an ECONOMIC and monetary UNION whose currency is the euro.”
EU Five Presidents’ Report, 2015: “Progress MUST HAPPEN on four fronts: first, towards a genuine ECONOMIC UNION that ensures each economy has the structural features to prosper within the Monetary Union. Second, towards a FINANCIAL UNION that guarantees the integrity of our currency across the Monetary Union and increases risk-sharing with the private sector. This means completing the Banking Union and accelerating the Capital Markets Completing Europe’s Economic and Monetary Union. Third, towards a FISCAL UNION that delivers both fiscal sustainability and fiscal stabilisation. And finally, towards a POLITICAL UNION that provides the foundation for all of the above through genuine democratic accountability, legitimacy and institutional strengthening.”
Angela Merkel’s immediate response to the referendum result, 24th June 2016: “Today is a watershed moment for Europe, and it is a watershed moment for the EUROPEAN UNIFICATION PROCESS. There is no doubt that this is a blow to Europe, and to the EUROPEAN UNIFICATION PROCESS.”
EU Rome Declaration, 25th March 2017: “Working towards COMPLETING the ECONOMIC and monetary UNION” (with a preferred deadline for completion of 2027).
ECB’s ‘Fiscal Implications of the EU Recovery Package’ 2020. “The way that the EU has responded to the crisis also has implications for the future design and implementation of the EUROPEAN GOVERNANCE FRAMEWORK. First, while expansionary fiscal policy is necessary to sustain the recovery, going forward it will be important for the fiscal rules to effectively support the reduction of high government debt in good economic times. Second, NGEU constitutes a new and innovative element of the EUROPEAN FISCAL FRAMEWORK. It will result in the issuance of sizeable supranational debt over the coming years, and its establishment has signalled a political readiness to design a common fiscal tool when the need arises. This innovation, while a one-off, could also imply lessons for ECONOMIC and Monetary UNION, which still lacks a PERMANENT FISCAL CAPACITY AT SUPRANATIONAL LEVEL for macroeconomic stabilisation in deep crises. The review of the ECONOMIC GOVERNANCE FRAMEWORK, which was launched by the Commission in February 2020 and postponed because of the pandemic, provides a GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO INCORPORATE THESE IMPORTANT CONSIDERATIONS.” (NGEU stands for “Next Generation European Union”).
From the EU’s own website: “Once the economic and financial crisis (of 2008/9) was overcome, the EU established a process aimed at reinforcing the architecture of EMU (ECONOMIC and monetary UNION). The process is based on the Five Presidents’ Report on Completing Europe’s Economic and Monetary Union of 2015, which focused on four main issues:
• A genuine ECONOMIC UNION;
• A FINANCIAL UNION;
• A FISCAL UNION;
• A POLITICAL UNION.
These four unions are STRICTLY INTER-RELATED and would develop in parallel. The report was followed by a series of communications, proposals and measures, and the discussion is still ongoing.”
In 2022 all member states reaffirmed their commitment to economic union, as part of Lisbon Treaty Article 3.
From the EU’s website (dated 29/4/24): “Today the Council adopted three pieces of legislation that will reform the EU’s ECONOMIC AND FISCAL GOVERNANCE FRAMEWORK.
‘The main objective of the reform is to ensure sound and sustainable public finances, while promoting sustainable and inclusive growth in all member states through reforms and investment.
The new legislation will significantly improve the existing framework and provide effective and applicable rules for all EU countries. They will safeguard balanced and sustainable public finances, increase the focus on structural reforms and investments to spur growth and job creation throughout the EU. The time is now for a swift implementation’: Vincent Van Peteghem, Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance of Belgium.”
2. THE EU’S MILITARY INTENTIONS
Lisbon Treaty Article 42.3: “Member states shall make civilian and MILITARY capabilities available to the Union for the implementation of the common security and defence policy, to contribute to the objectives DEFINED BY THE EUROPEAN COUNCIL.”
The EU’s military headquarters is the Kortenberg Building in Brussels.
The EU Global Strategy, 30th June 2016, issued exactly one week after the referendum, contains the right of the EU’s military “to act autonomously (of NATO) if and when necessary”.
It will need this, because, as you should know, Lisbon Treaty Article 42 commits member states to the defence of a member under attack. So if Ukraine is still under attack when it joins the EU, it will be the EU which is at war with Russia, not NATO. The defence of Ukraine doesn’t trigger the NATO charter.
On 19th February 2019 Federica Mogherini told an audience in Hamburg: “... all the way through the security spectrum, up to the military operations, because not so many know that the European Union has seventeen deployed missions and operations around the world. So, together, we are already a unique global security provider.” I checked this figure recently. It now stands at twenty-one.
On 23rd April 2019 the European Council issued its Military Command and Control Structures document, outlining its military command structure over member states’ land, sea and air forces. The diagram contained within reappears on the Wikipedia page for the Kortenberg Building, above.
In September 2021 Ursula Von der Leyen said this: “But what we need is the European Defence Union. In the last weeks there have been many discussions on expeditionary forces. On what type and how many we need: battlegroups or EU entry forces. This is no doubt part of the debate - and I believe it will be part of the solution. But the more fundamental issue is why this has not worked in the past. You can have the most advanced forces in the world - but if you are never prepared to use them - of what use are they?”
Last year the EU led joint military exercises in Spain. This is taken from the EU’s CSDP website: “The two-part MILEX 23 exercise commenced on 18 September and concluded on 22 October. The first part of this intense period was a 3-week planning phase by the MPCC in Brussels. In part two, this culminated in the EU’s first ever live military exercise from 16 - 22 October in Rota Naval Base, Cadiz, Spain. During Part 2, an EU Battlegroup-sized force carried out the Operational Plan developed by the MPCC in Part 1. Overall, 19 Member States contributed to MILEX 23.”
(CSDP = Common Security and Defence Policy. MPCC = Military Planning and Conduct Capability).
3. Reckless EU expansionism across Eastern Europe - widely known and reported on, including Albania (hotbed of gangsterism and corruption), Serbia and Montenegro (both traditional allies of Russia), Moldova (part of it coveted by Russia), Ukraine (currently at war with Russia), Turkey (instantly the largest, most populous and poorest country in the EU upon joining) and several others, all of which will bring nothing but a begging bowl to the EU’s table. Oh, except for Ukraine, because, as above, Lisbon Treaty Article 42 commits member states to the military aid of a member under attack. So if Ukraine is still at war upon its accession the EU will be at war with Russia.
4. Unfettered migration into Europe from North Africa and the Middle East (the free movement of people was a secret part of the Euro-Mediterranean Partnership, in effect since 2010, and signed between the EU and Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Egypt, Jordan, Israel, the Palestine Authority, Lebanon, Syria and Turkey). “Eurocrats do not consider (migration) to be a problem, but rather as a project”: Fabrice Leggeri, former Director of the European Border and Coastguard Agency (Frontex). "The European Union and all leaders of all European nations MUST USE IMMIGRATION to undermine the homogeneity and ethnic identity of the native European people no matter how difficult this will be to explain to the citizens of their nations. This must happen, THIS WILL HAPPEN for globalism to take hold of Europe" - Peter Sutherland speaking in the House of Lords in 2014.
All this has been going on while you’ve been asleep for the last fifteen years.
I can’t vote for any party which won’t consider reversing Brexit.
got a long wait mate-- and your grandchildren too.
you never thought you remainers handbraking are part of the problem?
@@jonsimmons4150 well we’ll see who has the last laugh, won’t we? 🤣🤣
Brexit : Never before has so much been taken from so many by so few .
We will rejoin
I am dismayed by your pessimism.
Eventually, yes, it is inevitable, but it is likely to be a long time away, and we will have suffered a long slow decline and a lot of pain before it happens.
You won’t rejoin because there is no way the UK is giving up the pound and that’s a prerequisite for joining the EU now
@@liamjohnhawkins4212 But not the only one. We have to made an example of to discourage other would be leavers
Brexit is absolutely no problem. The UK can just trade on WTO terms. This makes everything much easier removes all the EU red tape.🤣😂🙃😇🤭🤡🙈🙉🙊
In many ways, Brexit is bringing back the corn laws. Sadly, for the Tories, at least, the franchise has been extended.
An Elephant in the British body politic. Unsplendid isolation is a recipe for stagnation, poverty and enhanced decline.
Liz, beware of another Starmeresq U- Turn.
Most people in Labour Party are pro EU. He will have to represent them. We need to undo Brexit to ensure food security.
@@lizwebstersbfnothing can undo brexit, reverse it or whatever.
New EU membership is a long term project, what is the UK going to do (realistically) to secure food security in the mean time?
Dogs are always over optimistic about the size of stick they can n take home. It's true about cows, they can get fed up with bad weather. I used to look after the milking cows on a farm in our village in Denmark as a kid.
No brexit broke the poor and tories made money out of it
not only do we not have an empire, we don't have a hippodrome rialto or odeon either
but but but! you lefties would be crying it is nasty from the rooftops! you forget the UK sacrificed the empire to fund the SAVING OF EUROPE!
We want our star back
An the lies. And the corruption. And the downright nastiness
I'm a Brit living in Austria. Last summer (2023) after the pandemic I came over to the island to visit family and friends. A few times we went out for a meal to local pubs. What SHOCKED me was No Waiter Service. You found a table you looked at the menu you went to the bar ordered collected your drinks and PAYED for the meal before you got it. Two things came to the front that after asking I was told. 1. No staff as when the pandemic hit most of the staff left to go back to their countries and with the paperwork involved plus finding accommodation etc, it was easier to work in Europe. 2. The staff that was there were looking for better paying work as before they could make up their wages with (what they weren't getting now) tips.
Yes it’s broken the country. The large ageing population are unaware that the declining birth rate means we need immigration because the working age population is shrinking.
It has broke the country
*Incorrect..remainers handbraking, and trying to reverse the referendum has*
Its broken the country too.
Andrew Neil helped lead us the Brexit.