JOHN MAJOR'S BREXIT WARNING
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𝗝𝗢𝗛𝗡 𝗠𝗔𝗝𝗢𝗥'𝗦 𝗕𝗥𝗘𝗫𝗜𝗧 𝗪𝗔𝗥𝗡𝗜𝗡𝗚 - 𝗦𝗵𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝟭𝟬-𝗺𝗶𝗻𝘂𝘁𝗲 𝘃𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗼
Exactly 8 years ago, on 5 June 2016 - just three weeks before the EU referendum - former Prime Minister, Sir John Major warned that the Leave campaign was “fundamentally dishonest” and “verging on the squalid.”
On the BBC Andrew Marr Show, Sir John accused Brexit campaigners of feeding to the British people “a whole galaxy of inaccurate and frankly untrue information.”
“And what they have NOT done,” he added, “is to tell us what would be the position if we were to vote to leave.”
Sir John said of Brexit, “I think it would be chaotic and damaging and I think the people who would suffer most would be the everyday man and woman in the street.”
Andrew Marr put it to Sir John that Leave campaigners claimed Brexit would create an extra 300,000 jobs, “because we would be free to strike our own trade deals with America and Australia and China and other countries.”
“Well, it’s fantasy,” responded Sir John.
“We would lose a huge amount in terms of national income through trade,” he said, pointing out that businesses would sell less to the #SingleMarket if we left the EU.
He added, “I am angry at the way the British people are being misled.”
The former Prime Minister was right, wasn’t he? What a shame his warnings were not heeded.
Watch the video and judge for yourself.
▪ Transcript of full John Major interview: news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/h...
© Report and video compilation by @JonDanzig Video clip from the BBC.
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→ What the former Prime Minister warned BEFORE the referendum
𝗝𝗢𝗛𝗡 𝗠𝗔𝗝𝗢𝗥'𝗦 𝗕𝗥𝗘𝗫𝗜𝗧 𝗪𝗔𝗥𝗡𝗜𝗡𝗚 - 𝗦𝗵𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝟭𝟬-𝗺𝗶𝗻𝘂𝘁𝗲 𝘃𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗼
Exactly 8 years ago, on 5 June 2016 - just three weeks before the EU referendum - former Prime Minister, Sir John Major warned that the Leave campaign was “fundamentally dishonest” and “verging on the squalid.”
On the BBC Andrew Marr Show, Sir John accused Brexit campaigners of feeding to the British people “a whole galaxy of inaccurate and frankly untrue information.”
“And what they have NOT done,” he added, “is to tell us what would be the position if we were to vote to leave.”
Sir John said of Brexit, “I think it would be chaotic and damaging and I think the people who would suffer most would be the everyday man and woman in the street.”
Andrew Marr put it to Sir John that Leave campaigners claimed Brexit would create an extra 300,000 jobs, “because we would be free to strike our own trade deals with America and Australia and China and other countries.”
“Well, it’s fantasy,” responded Sir John.
“We would lose a huge amount in terms of national income through trade,” he said, pointing out that businesses would sell less to the #SingleMarket if we left the EU.
He added, “I am angry at the way the British people are being misled.”
The former Prime Minister was right, wasn’t he? What a shame his warnings were not heeded.
Watch the video and judge for yourself.
And now Nigel Farage is coming back to potentially govern the country not John Major.
@@JamesGary-lz7puFarage entering the election has certainly delivered a huge boost to Reform! According to projections they stand to win three seats. Just 323 to go!
@@RemoanersRtossersYes! Support Putin!
I remember at the time of the referendum, that I was too outraged at all the dishonest information, and that I could not make an informed decision,which is why I voted remain.
@@RemoanersRtossers Look at the stats.
When inflation is taken out of the equation UK exports have fallen.
Only thing that flatters is exports have increased in pounds sterling, but strip out the inflation the stats tell a different story.
"nonsense on stilts", "pet hamster with a hungry python"... love it. never knew major was so eloquent with his insults.
Since John Major, the Tory PMs have focused on the 'Con' rather than the 'Serve'
John Major ? You mean Mr. IR35 ? Mr. Smash-the-self-employed ? Mr. worst-recession-in-financial-history ? Mr. Health-and-safety small-business-wipeout ? Mr. smash-everyones'-savings-to-join-ERM ? Mr 16% interest-rates ? Mr. "What-recession" ? Mr. Every-driveway-had-a-car-for-sale ? Mr. every-shop-doorway-had someone-sleeping-in-it ? Mr. Had-to-limit-the-number-of-estate-agents-signs-allowed because nobody could sell a house ? Need I go on ? John Major was the most evil, anti-British Euro-leftie of all time.
No - since Thatcher
Major was ok by comparison, but only by comparison. He was still on the same Tory spectrum
@@bestbehave dross
@@brightonduder they are
Takes me back to an era when i only fundamentally disagreed with a Tory Prime Minister rather than fundamentally hate them and believe them to be evil
Absolutely. My parents instilled into me during the 80s that Tory MPs were wrong. But just wrong. Not evil, deluded, deranged, hateful, spiteful criminals they are now.
I agree.
Point HAMMERED 😂
He’s a nice enough bloke. You never hear about him because he’s more interested in cricket
Very well put.
This aged far too well.
How so?
@@holycannoli64 he was bang on.
@@machidaman bang on in what way?
@@holycannoli64 I assume you are being deliberately obtuse.
@@machidaman no, I don't recognise what Major said as being prophetic in any way.
To attribute everything that's happened to Brexit is to ignore the economy-wrecking policies that everyone enthusiastically supported during the covid hysteria.
A man with measured words.
A man of wisdom who spoke the truth.
I never liked the man. But on the brexit issue he was correct. But he left the Uk impoverished and broken and that is why people did not heed him at the time.
I'd never thought of myself as particularly wise.
Thanks for the compliment.
No, I'm not J. Major but if what he said then was words of wisdom then I, like many other people also spoke the truth and exercised wisdom.
Unfortunately, we were in a minority.
Alas....Another wise man...brought low by a Curry.
@@josephhenry4725
Cryptic reply.
The Egg lady?
Edwina😂
Spitting Image lambasted him as the grey man when he was PM because he made his decisions based on boring analysis and consideration of the consequences both for and against. So come the referendum the majority don't even hear what he is saying, preferring to follow the pied pipers of Brexit with their catchy slogans, entertaining presentations and unattainable promises. Moral of the story, politics is boring and so it should be because when it stops being boring that's when bricks get thrown, damage is done and people get hurt.
So well written. Thank you. "Catchy slogans, entertaining presentations and unattainable promises'.
He won after Thatcher, a very surprising victory to many, but he was the soapbox hero, the champion of the Blue Rinse brigade, and unafraid to speak honestly and confront the Euro Sceptics (or Bastards as he later called them) or Thatcher herself, with whom he won many arguments.
The Tory Party were cock-a-hoop with the victory, but those Right Wing Euro Sceptics soon realised he wasn't 'Their Man' to be easily controlled and had his own mind........So they destroyed him.
The Media was used as a weapon, and fools as we were, The Public fell for it.
Newspapers, television, radio and scandal were wielded to portray an image we fell for.
And who do we think controls most of those media vessels??
@@neildee9834 Murdoch! With the Sun. And the Sky network. And the public school people. With the BBC and other broadcasters. All eager to poach fun at Mayor whilst giving their own a free ride. To ansver your question.
Well said. I may quote you 😊🤔
The "grey man" system, it the best system of government for running a country
We were right.
Dear old John Major, much too polite a man to call B.S. Johnson a damned liar.
❤well said and well OBSERVED.
Polite or just plain gutless.
Oh behave yourself. Boris was always a Eurosceptic when he was a journalist. He used to write articles about how ridiculous Eu rules, diktats and regulations were. It turns he was correct all along .
The establishment were mad at him, because he campaigned with the traditional working classes and they won.
@@Stand663 Lol . Good one . He allegedly had 2 letters written and he waited to see which way the wind was blowing . Boris Johnson ' with the working class ' , that is a good one .
John Major ? You mean Mr. IR35 ? Mr. Smash-the-self-employed ? Mr. worst-recession-in-financial-history ? Mr. Health-and-safety small-business-wipeout ? Mr. smash-everyones'-savings-to-join-ERM ? Mr 16% interest-rates ? Mr. "What-recession" ? Mr. Every-driveway-had-a-car-for-sale ? Mr. every-shop-doorway-had someone-sleeping-in-it ? Mr. Had-to-limit-the-number-of-estate-agents-signs-allowed because nobody could sell a house ? Need I go on ? John Major was the most evil, anti-British Euro-leftie of all time.
Doesn’t everyone miss the time when we had sensible competent politicians???
Its rare... thats why.
Too boring for Farrage & Co.
They can all gripe about migrants again like that's not what they do all the time, and what Brexit was supposed to fix by 'Taking Back Control '.
And the cheating on his wife speaks much of his moral fibre.
@@mw8653just like Nigel and his multiple infidelities.
@@mw8653do you know something, I couldn’t give a fack.
Deliberately crashing and eviscerating Britain, and being responsible for thousands of deaths, dismantling the nhs, the deliberate lies over Brexit, the decimating of our citizens rights kind of puts having an affair into perspective
The last decent Tory Prime Minister. I didn't agree with his policies, but I still respected him.
100% one of the last decent tories who believed in this country and weren’t out to fleece it for everything they can get.
He most certainly wasn't an Etonian. Yes, a fundamentally decent man. His win in 1992 was well deserved. And, mind you, one of the biggest upsets in political history.
Not Theresa May?
He's proven right
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂@@SimonFrackTheresa may cut the police force by a third!
I never liked John Major when he was Prime Minister, however had I known of the values of the conservatives in the 21st Century, I would have thought differently about John Major. At least he had principles and was honourable.
After having seen Trump I now believe that Ronald Reagan was an honorable man 😂
He stabbed thatcher in the back… the man was a snake… ok a boring one!
Hindsight is a wonderful thing
@@lizroberts1569 At least he was talking about this BEFORE the referendum.
Relatively honourable.
there was a time when politician's weren't clowns yet..
Long before John Majors time.
But the British people chose to vote for clowns. Why? Because the politicians of the day are merely a reflection of the people of the day.
they always have been, do a bit of research. very very few really cared for the public .
Just 'politicians'.
Yeah. I remember. It makes me so angry listening to the current ones
Someone should play this back to Sunak to demonstrate what a real PM looks like: someone who cares more about their country than themselves.
If he cared about this country he wouldn’t have signed the Maastricht treaty without a referendum. He has no mandate for it and signed away this countries sovereignty on the dream of a federal Europe. The EEC was the right idea, the EU is not. We do not need more power in the hands of the political class. The EU is a bureaucratic nightmare of corruption and incompetence.
John Major ? You mean Mr. IR35 ? Mr. Smash-the-self-employed ? Mr. worst-recession-in-financial-history ? Mr. Health-and-safety small-business-wipeout ? Mr. smash-everyones'-savings-to-join-ERM ? Mr 16% interest-rates ? Mr. "What-recession" ? Mr. Every-driveway-had-a-car-for-sale ? Mr. every-shop-doorway-had someone-sleeping-in-it ? Mr. Had-to-limit-the-number-of-estate-agents-signs-allowed because nobody could sell a house ? Need I go on ? John Major was the most evil, anti-British Euro-leftie of all time.
I totally agree, looking back at John Major now I see a very intelligent and articulate man who cared passionately about this country way more seriously than the fools who conned everyone and sold Brexit as a prize . Won't see the likes of Mr Major again sadly.
This from a PM who called those Tory MPs who disagreed over Maastricht utter bastards
Major failed to save his party from defeat when he became PM because the bad actors in the Tory Party were pulling against him attempts to equalize society for the good of all. I was no big fan of Major, but I didn't hate him either. He represented a party I did not support, but he was actually trying to do his job. That kind of Tory is VERY thin on the ground now and we have no-one trustworthy left in the Labour Party to oppose them.
It certainly stands up to being broadcast now.
Exactly
Never mind TV debates just put this interview on replay 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
John Major this statesman love or hate him, was the last true conservative PM.
God give me patience.
@@rufanuf1 who would you prefer then, Johnson, Truss or Sunack
@@JohnSmith-bx8zb None of them
I saw an interview ahead so where John Major said when he was in government and realised they were going to lose the next election, they used it as an opportunity to focus on what do they could do in the remaining time. The current government seems to be doing the opposite!
No, that was thatcher, who he blatantly destroyed with a stab to the front and back. Then handed our nation to the EU.
Can you imagine if any of the tory prime ministers of the past two decades had an ounce of this man's class and morals.
You’re talking nonsense, while he was presenting himself as a man of morals and family values he was busily knocking off the idiot egg woman behind his wife’s back, behind the egg woman’s back and the whole country, man of honour indeed!
Do you remember when the press called him the worst Prime Minister in history?
I bet a few would vote for him in July now…
@@crustyzimmerman3324 he was busy making whoopee with the egg woman while pretending to be a family man with high moral standards.
@@BobK5 Not a patch on Johnson's indiscretions though .
John Major ? You mean Mr. IR35 ? Mr. Smash-the-self-employed ? Mr. worst-recession-in-financial-history ? Mr. Health-and-safety small-business-wipeout ? Mr. smash-everyones'-savings-to-join-ERM ? Mr 16% interest-rates ? Mr. "What-recession" ? Mr. Every-driveway-had-a-car-for-sale ? Mr. every-shop-doorway-had someone-sleeping-in-it ? Mr. Had-to-limit-the-number-of-estate-agents-signs-allowed because nobody could sell a house ? Need I go on ? John Major was the most evil, anti-British Euro-leftie of all time.
Extremely interesting. I just bursted out laughing when he says (7:10) that "the NHS is as safe with them as a pet hamster with a hungry python"!
His crystal ball was definitely in good working order that day for sure.
That happens when you take conclusions and make predictions based on actual facts. And when you stop telling populist phrases you know the others like to hear.
Or common sense?
Remember, he took over as PM when Thatcher went off the deep end about the soon to be formed European Union. He's well experienced on the subject.
Hardly. Did he predict that the government would shut the whole economy down for a common cold repackaged as something dangerous and put us in hundreds of billions in debt? Was that because of Brexit too? 😂
John Major ? You mean Mr. IR35 ? Mr. Smash-the-self-employed ? Mr. worst-recession-in-financial-history ? Mr. Health-and-safety small-business-wipeout ? Mr. smash-everyones'-savings-to-join-ERM ? Mr 16% interest-rates ? Mr. "What-recession" ? Mr. Every-driveway-had-a-car-for-sale ? Mr. every-shop-doorway-had someone-sleeping-in-it ? Mr. Had-to-limit-the-number-of-estate-agents-signs-allowed because nobody could sell a house ? Need I go on ? John Major was the most evil, anti-British Euro-leftie of all time.
He's right about all of it. And not enough people listened. People voted based on lies and with their instincts rather than reason. Now look at the mess. We will suffer for 50+ years because of it.
John Major ? You mean Mr. IR35 ? Mr. Smash-the-self-employed ? Mr. worst-recession-in-financial-history ? Mr. Health-and-safety small-business-wipeout ? Mr. smash-everyones'-savings-to-join-ERM ? Mr 16% interest-rates ? Mr. "What-recession" ? Mr. Every-driveway-had-a-car-for-sale ? Mr. every-shop-doorway-had someone-sleeping-in-it ? Mr. Had-to-limit-the-number-of-estate-agents-signs-allowed because nobody could sell a house ? Need I go on ? John Major was the most evil, anti-British Euro-leftie of all time.
Even the monocled snake Jacob Rees-Mogg admitted that Britain would not recover for 50 years. But, he doesn't care because he invested in concerns that benefit from Britain's demise.
Yup. Project HERE.
The remain campaign was lazy, none of us believed leave was a serious threat, and the referendum was non-binding. Public discourse is broken because the media are owned by the aristocratic elite.
The biggest contribution we could make to this country would be to break the elites' stranglehold over the mainstream media
Correct, in 1973 and 1975.
Most of John Major’s points have been proved correct.
I wonder how many were thinking like him but went with party policies in fear of reprisals from d tory mob
@@RemoanersRtossers we're poorer and NHS Waiting Lists are the longest ever - need more?
Oh, how about Johnson resigned because his lies were proven?
Job losses wrong! ....no trade deals wrong! , no extra money on the NHS wrong! 😂 he's an idiot
It’s scary how right he was about almost everything.
He said he was at d top table he knows how d eu works Boris or nigel were only concerned with glory for themselves but hadn't a notion of d consequences
@@noelfleming3567 he wasn't right about about the Cones Hotline or Little Chef.
Ouch! no wonder Sunak doesn't want to talk about Brexit.
Neither does Starmer, Brexit is central to the Election the economic growth of the UK and it’s Citizens. If they cannot speak of it why not make a Royal Commission inquiry. If the Politicians will not be honest & stand up for the country who will?
@@ctraltescapeThe reason why starmer can't really talk about Brexit much atleast(like many of his plans) is that he will get attacked by our right-wing media...Hopefully this changes when he becomes PM...we will see...
Don’t worry, Brexit will be right back on the agenda two years into the next government whoever that will be…
@@Chris47368Haha remember he wishes to "Make brexit work"... Despite the right wing tories failing to make it work, he expects a centre left labour government to make it work.
I don't have much faith in him as a prime minister. His wishy washy approach is alienating.
@@rayc9539 Again he has the wishy washy approach because of our media, he really cannot afford risking to give them much ammunition to give them... You know how brutal our media are to anyone who appears to be remotely left leaning by now, surely?
If I was running as a leftist prime minister in this country, I would also be as vague as him but would turn the tables in my approach once in power...it is the only way to gain power, unfortunately.
In 2016 as a Pole remember how it was sad for me about the upcoming referendum .I didn't realise how much bad consequences it can bring .He predicted it very well .We now know that Brexit had far more fetched consequences combined with covid and war it is disastrous .I'm a pharmacist and on my eyes NHS is colapsing ,pharmacies closing down ,decreased diversity of drugs,quality of treatment going down ...One big chaos and I suffer as well..I could earn less than in 2016
but all the warnings were there...this is what keeps puzzling me. as a pharmacist you are not he average dumb man and you still
got sweettalked with wrong arguments.
Tbh the uks population went up far too much over the past 20 years due to immigration.
Furthermore frankly the nhs is bot fit for purpose and it needs to made emergency only and everyone else can utilise private health.
@@wout123100
Huh?
John Major, a politician with vision and integrity. We Europeans were hoping at the time that Major's clear analysis would prevail. We got it wrong.
Not much integrity ask his wife about Edwina Currie.
I agree. Plus he left the Uk in a bad state.
No, the EU got it wrong.
@@jackn4853who cares??
Boris and Farage did worse you didn't care¿
😂😂😂😂😂😂
The sad fact is that May, Johnson and Truss never believed in Brexit it was just a vehicle to become PM. Once they saw that opportunity their principles went right out of the window. Two men who desperately wanted to become PM were Heseltine and Clarke but can you imagine either changing their minds on Brexit just to get that top job.
There never was a good brexit
May never changed her views, but had the integrity to try and uphold the will of the people. Sadly, the ERG and it's similar thinkers would not support a Remainer trying to deliver Brexit. They instead chose Johnson and Truss.....nuff said.
@rodneylowe9526 I remember how passionately she spoke about the future she predicted after brexit. Unleashing Britain's potential, making us a global Britain, making us a proud sovereign nation. She painted a beautiful picture of our lives as non-EU members.
Let's not forget that she hastily triggered article 50 without a deal even being in place. "Brexit means brexit" to her. "No deal is better than a bad deal". She also outright turned down the EEA proposal - which would have been far less damaging.
@@rayc9539 but how can you believe those words, are you all daft? the brexit voters i mean ofcourse.
@wout123100 I personally didn't believe the statements. This was after the vote came through, by the way. Brexit is a very ambigious event - people had different interpretations as to what it would entail. Arrogance and delusion can be damaging. I would prefer us to be in the single market in the future. It is the logical thing for this country.
I have watched this many times over the years and everything he and all remainders said was right. Denounced as project fear
It was and still is project fear. The problem with the UK is its full of career politicians. A phenomonem largely created by the EU. Now politcians get a chance to play god forever.
He might have been a very gray man, but he was the last British Prime Minister with integrity.
Gordon Brown had integrity
@@durrcadurk "Gordon Brown had integrity"
Yes, ok, I could go along with that.
@@durrcadurkhe sold all the countries gold reserves.
@matthale6563 that's true, but still had integrity. Also helped save the economy from being completely fucked in 2008
@@matthale6563 "he sold all the countries gold reserves."
Yes, he was useless, but he acted in what he thought were the best interests of the country, and he was absolutely not corrupt.
Probably the last Prime Minister we can say that of. He had integrity.
Since then, they have all been just as useless (or even more so), but also corrupt and have acted purely in the interests of themselves, their Party and their chums.
Well, I voted remain and all I can say is Sir John was absolutely right.
Of course he was right. he was instrumental in its design, as are all career politicians interested in ever bigger government.
@@rufanuf1What???
@@danganbeg7225 Yes
If he was right, then where, for example, are these 10% tariff barriers?
@@thegrandmuftiofwakanda Are you serious? I live in Ireland and if I order anything from Britain I get charged 10% tariff as well as VAT and fees. I used to be charged nothing before Brexit. Nobody here buys from Britain now unless they have to.
And here's the reason for the disaster that followed. The application of reason to defend a position, where instead the slogan, lies of gold and silver and trigger words were to be used to demand a remain vote.
It's such a pity that politicians aren't this honest when in power.
Boris was the worst minister and person to ever hold the prime minister s office. 😢
Nutsak second.
@@TheLuminousOne John Major third perhaps? He di after all sign the Maastricht Treaty.
Truss?
@@SimonFrack we would never have had Truss if we never had Boris, your correct to point out just how bad Truss was. 😂
@@rufanuf1 personally I couldn't even put John Major in the same frame, Major at least engaged with the EU and had British interests at heart. I'm not a Tory fan but what we have now isn't even Torres
As an outsider from Australia I can say it was blatantly obvious that Brexit was a sham. The majority of people wanted to believe it was true because it was based on racism, arrogance and hubris. Sometimes you get what you ask for and deserve.
I wasn’t a fan of “grey” John Major but he tells it as it is and has real empathy for the average Tom, Dick and Harriet. Kudos to him.
Racism? How so?
Exactly Brexit disaster, you throw away your largest, closest market and that’s exactly what happened, but those who voted leave are still saying it worked because they realise they believed a blatant lie.
Shows how right John Major was and how wrong Brexit was
Utter nonsense!
@@archiebald4717oh my goodness another deluded Brexiteer who is unable to accept that he was conned. You are an idiot sir.
@@archiebald4717Yes the leave campaign was all lies.
Like he said he was at d top table for 7 yrs he knows how d whole system works
@@archiebald4717
Why is UK trade when inflation is removed then below what it was before the UK left the single market?
When at the same time everyone else's in Europe is either stable or above the same time period?
EXPLAIN !!!!!
One of the last decent individuals in the Tory party. Someone who held genuine beliefs (that I don't agree with) but basically a decent man trying to do what he thought was best for our country. To think that he was revilled when we compare him to the procession of chancers and liars and loons that fill that party now makes me sad. I thought many ill thoughts about him, Hessa, Clarke and others and I regret the passing of their normalcy. How the hell do we get back to normal from here?
you don't!
@@LeonLShaw the Tories became a party of radical change - the wrong sort of change. Starmer is sensible and tedious. The madness will stop accumulating and in a way he is a conservative. The UK will be preserved like larks' tongues in aspic. We can't go back, but we can stand still. And most will be grateful for that. UK Politics will become criminally boring. Thankfully.
@@Purple_flower09we can go back, there's nothing really stopping us from rejoining the EU, Scotland is hell bent on getting back in. The reason why no party will try is because the EU will give them a really shit deal to rejoin and it will make their party look bad. So fuck everybody in the country and let them suffer.
@@Purple_flower09if you don't think change is coming under Starmer then you're not paying attention. Labour want to finish what Blair started. I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see the removal of the Lords and a written constitution.
All the ministers who persuaded people to leave, are now leaving Not to be held to account. I think they should be prosecuted as private individuals,
the Conservative government of the day never wanted the UK to leave and campaigned to remain. Leave won because of clever tactics that they used in the campaign. In most voting situations those people who do not bother to vote are ignored, simply beacuse they do not vote. However, the leave campaign bucked the trend by focusing on those who do not vote and persuading to go out and vote, hence why they won.
There is no provision for this in British criminal law.
The public also have to take accountability - they voted for it
The host was trying to be "balanced" by repeating the lies of the Leave campaign. Being balanced is about getting as close to truth as possible, not arguing against truth.
What happened to our politicians ?
Crazy to think that "Is Boris Johnson a liar?" wasn't a settled question in 2016
Of the 18 million that voted to leave the European Union I`d wager that 90% of them are all the worse off them having their way.
All Brexit has `achieved`for the vast majority of Britons is made trade more difficult, travel more difficult and more expensive, and escape from this over-populated and sinking isle virtually impossible.
I know a young woman whose ambition for her son ( who is rather good at Science / Physics and Mathematics ) was that he would earn a job working at CERN researching Wave - Physics and she voted Brexit !
This is not going to help her lad.
@@RemoanersRtossers You`ll be telling me next that it`s easier for Britons to work in the European Union, shit-kicker !
Everyone who voted are likely worse off. Nobody in the UK is better off because of it. Unless they mostly have assets outside UK and are not affected that much by UK economy or politics and don't live in the UK.
I travel to about 5 different countries a year as a freelance software developer because the UK is a shit hole. I would give my right arm to go back to being in the EU so I could just take a £50 flight to the continent and live permanently without any hassle in a comparative paradise. I would argue most of the people that voted leave would want that too if they had ever actually travelled to Europe and realised that they weren't voting to end immigration from Pakistan.
So why are you worse off? Why is it more difficult? Is it because you returned to how things were before the inner market, or is ot because the central planners are punishing you for wanting out from under their administration and control?
@@mr_reborn nobody punished the UK other than themselves.
Poor man...
So thoroughly right, so honestly appalled and so desperately ignored. Why did nobody listen to him at the time?
Nobody listened to him because he was tainted by neoliberalism (just like Blair, Brown, Cameron and all who worshipped Thatcher & Reagan).
The 2008 crisis proved Neoliberalism to hurt huge swats of Britons. And in 2016, very few outside of London felt they could trust the establishment, including John Major.
for the reason that you don't listen to the likes of him today... because he's Conservative.
It’s bloody hard to find a Tory like him, the good, honest professional politicians that can benefit all of us either in power or out of it, have been pushed out and replaced with self seeking, ignorant sycophants. I can’t remember the last time I heard a politician make a commentary like this. Like it or not it’s a plain message well delivered and I wish there were more like him now, Tory or Labour.
It wasn't well publicised at the time. It should have been. I seem to remember it was this interview that galvanised me to vote remain. My one disagreement is that the European Commission are for the mostpart unaccountable, and they have an almost unblemished track record of railroading, coersing and blackmailing leaders of member states into giving up sovereignty for a monopolised and globalist agenda. They are far from a benevolent council.
I did
If only the BBC had given John Major as much airtime as it gave to Farage!
Well said
And the press.
And central to the Leave campaign, we now have the resurgence of Farage.
And three cheers for that say I.
@@heyabusa1 yes, just maybe we can get Brexit started.
Yes, yes dear comrade, communism is great it was just never implemented properly.
Just like Brexit...
@@gaiahunter3863 I don’t believe in communism. I know what occurred under Stalin….and I know what occurred under Hitler. I know I’m poorer since Brexit, and I’ve lost my freedom of movement because of Brexit, and I know that grifter Farage pushed Brexit .
Anything else you need to know ?
@@gaiahunter3863 If Brexit was implemented “properly“, what benefits would you want ?
Shame on the British public that they believed Boris Johnson rather than this honest man. Johnson played to their meanness and their greed.
Boris tapped into the low minded selfish ones and succeeded.
A minority of the public believed Johnson et al. Sadly that minority was greater than those that made a positive remain vote. 37% of the electorate voted leave. It won the vote. 63% didn’t feel that strongly.
dumb people vote on dumb politicians..what else?
@@roppa789 yes Johnson simply exploited a situation. Having no actual beliefs or compass, he was a shameless opportunist. Others created the situation that he greedily seized upon for his own purposes. How ironic that he wanted to be compared to Churchill, a man with many faults, but one who did have genuine convictions.
Highly prophetic and completely obvious at the time
In '92 I was unhappy he won. In '97 I was overjoyed he was booted out. And in 2016 it turns out Major is more trustworthy than Corbyn ever was.
This is the kind of bitter experiences one can never imagine - until it happens.
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@@jmolofsson it comes form ignorance.
You hated major because the media stitched him up. The same reason you hate Corbyn.
Andrew Marr comes off looking pretty bad here. I know it's his job to be oppositional in an interview like this, but he was clearly just repeating Leave Campaign arguments as if they had some basis in reality, just another perfectly valid point of view, and you can see John Major getting fed up with it. The BBC did an awful job here.
The BBC is the Tory mouthpiece. Hopefully Labour will reset its board and out some controls in
But it showed Marr up he did his best but he met a clever man fair play Mr major
John Major talks utter common sense. His arguments are cogent and reality-based. What a great loss to an utterly discredited party of arrogant, entitled, incompetent and self-serving liars and thieves.
Really? To me it looked like Andrew Marr was playing Devil's advocate by getting John Major to convincingly crush leavers arguments (well😅)...
Too sad to watch, like trying to talk down a jumper, unsuccessfully.
Even if Turkey did join the EU the vast majority of Turkish people would stay in Turkey.
Personally I can’t ever see it happening.
And there would also be a lot of other EU countries to go to. Why so many British always think that all migrants are just heading for the UK? Just ridiculously funny. France, Germany, Italy or Spain took and take more migrants. And if you compare migrants per capita probably every Western and Northern (and probably southern, too) EU country took more migrants in the last 20 years than the UK.
The French electorate will almost certainly block Turkey from joining under any conditions.. They will not be alone.
@@wanderschlosser1857 I genuinely think that, being an island, changes the way its inhabitants think. Most other European countries have had regular border changes over the centuries. The UK thinks it can stand in "glorious isolation"
many EU countries have a huge demographic challenge coming their way. they might soon be begging for anyone to come
John Major, the last rational and honest British conservative
Well, there's you go, tory supporters must have seen this at the time, so they did know what they were voting for.
John Major's reputation was very poor in 2016. Few people looked at it. They didn't believe his words.
Cameron was a coward in resigning, the result was fairly close and not binding. He could have remained as P.M. and convinced many of the leavers as to the errors of their ways but he ducked the responsibility. BoJo, forever the opportunist, was a disaster as the Tories are now finding out.
What articulate, passionate and detailed comments by John Major.
You never get this kind of clarity and honest thinking with modern politicians.
I suspect it’s to do with the nature of politics… they all have advisors who want to get their buzz words in, making everything sound artificial and forced.
I wish we had more interviews of this kind.
Share it across your social media accounts, and tag in Starmer, Sunak and Davey. I think a little reminder wouldn't go amiss
Andrew Marr was clearly out of his depth with John Major. The aim of his whole interview was to personalise the referendum rather than listen to and understand John Major's wisdom and words of warning. It's very poor quality red-top journalism and shameful. It's because of these types of journalists, which the BBC seemed to have/has a lot of, that the British public continues to be duped on really important issues.
I was about to say the same, very very poor performance by Andrew Marr.
@@marcd6897 or maybe a very good one, in that he took the leavers positions and looked like an idiot as a result
I just thought he was giving Leavers arguments, so John Major can crush them one by one...?
How right he was.
John Major made his point and didn't fall into any of the interviewer's traps. JM took and maintained control of this interview. LOVED it!
And to think that this was all branded as project fear…
The simple fact that the Leave campaign came up with that perjorative term as a way of dismissing legitimate concerns of the Remain campaign, sums up what politics has become: undignified and superficial. Unfortunately we live in an age where propaganda and disinformation can run rife (and ruin lives) thanks to social media and the internet.
He was spot on!
People cant say they were warned.
There will be no convincing the sheeple with facts and reason.
The last politician that I actually trusted...and how right he was. Honestly can't see myself voting again.
Know d feeling their all crooks nowadays it's money nothing else
He went right up in my estimation around this time. He made me realise the sea change difference of what a Tory minister or prime minister used to be like and what they are like now. Much more principled than any of the current lot. Ironically Keir Starmer is probably the closest to him both politically and personally.
We going to make deals with countries on the other side of the ocean and turn our backs to countries right by our side...😬
@RemoanersRtossers which Exports??
As a Canadian I sat over here watching Leave people saying they would get these wonderful trade deals with for example, Canada... and my thought was, no you won't. No. You. Won't.
@@RemoanersRtossersWhat exports, bananas?
Some people just don't want to understand how the world turns in these days.
@@RemoanersRtossers Facts (take USA out of the equation and the majority of UK exports are sold to EU countries) :-
£billion
1 United States 191.5 22.1%
2 Germany 60.8 7.0%
3 Ireland 57.4 6.6%
4 Netherlands 53.6 6.2%
5 France 45.0 5.2%
6 China 31.5 3.6%
7 Switzerland 31.2 3.6%
8 Belgium 25.9 3.0%
9 Spain 19.9 2.3%
10 Italy 18.5 2.1%
N/A EU1 357.2 41.3%
N/A Non-EU1 507.4 58.7%
N/A World1 864.5 100.0%
(Source: Trade and investment statistics for goods 2023 - Dept of Trade and Industry)
Furthermore, I can't take anyone seriously whose user name seems to have been plucked from the kind of juvenile name calling that is rife in a school playground, and who obviously has a pathological incapacity to even try to be impartial.
Definition of prescience. Salute to Mr. Major🫡
The whole Brexit issue was brought up by David Cameron who was scared of UKIP, so he decided to "out UKIP" UKIP. There was no positive campaign on the benefits of being in the EU because Cameron thought the Leave campaign would never win, because no sensible person would vote for it. That left an almost monopoly of anti-EU lies to propagate unchallenged and Leave won.
Now we are paying the price, and will be for the foreseeable future, just because Cameron wanted to save his own arse!
Don't worry people Nigel Farage has very generously put himself at the service of the British people and promised to sort all this out. No worries then.
Farage, the guy who holds German residency, lives in Germany married to a Germany, that Farage
@@gsxrinfrance5827 In contrast, the facts: Farage is divorced from his German wife. That is why he was not granted German citizenship, which he had applied for. He also does not live in Germany.
John Major was PM before my time really (born in 98) - but he seems quite a wise man...must have still had his issues as a PM(especially being a tory, lol)...but he is a far long-shot from any of the PM's we have had as of late...that's for sure...lol
The NHS is about as safe with them as a hamster with a hungry python…true words
A few few caveats here. For all his perceived shortcomings, John Major was the last prime-minister to leave the British economy in much better shape when he left it than when entered it. He always made an effort to be honest, something we've rarely seen in a prime minister since. His prediction that turkey would not become an EU member was correct.
However, his prediction that Brexit would cause unemployment to rise did not materialise. In fact it's at 1.5% less than it was in 2016. Whether the effects of Covid 19 and the Ukraine war have elcipsed any temporary-shock effect of Brexit will long be argued.
"The ordinary, everyday man and woman in the street".
This just shows what what most politicians really think of their fellow Humans.
Marr was so accommodating to the Leave BS
John Major was 100% right. He repeated this message on many interviews and political hearings.
The UK is in such a dire situation now - and it's getting worse...
“Day trip to Damascus”; nicely put. Boris may not be able to lie straight in bed.
I stayed in London for a year due to a high paying job in the City. As a Nordic citizen, I found it depressing how a UK"bloke" told my family and I to get the H out of the Uk and how Brexit was coming. The irony? We were in a lift visiting Ikea😅 Anyway, I was quite happy to get back home.
You know someone is seriously effed up by being angered Scandinavians, the world’s most innocuous people, are in their country and should get out. The blinkered and broken synapses of a Brexiteer right there.
Nonsense, Nonsense on stilts!; haven't heard a better comparison yet
John Major is a good man. How I wish we had politicians of his calibre and principles today
How clearsighted he is! When I compare him to the last three prime ministers the UK has had, I wonder how they ever got to this position.
From the very start of his career as a Cabinet member and then PM, Major used to befuddle journalists and interviewers alike, by ACTUALLY answering the question they asked. No lies, no obfuscation. This led to often boring answers, technical, logical, honest. No opportunity for 'gotcha' moments. It is this reason why he was portrayed as 'grey'.
Everything he spoke about is coming to pass....the man had a Cristal ball, that's for sure..
@@RemoanersRtossersI'm betting you don't have a coherent argument?
Who cares about sensible politicians who have the country’s interest at heart ?
Better believe Nigel and Bojo 😂
People never really voted for brexit. They voted for immigration change. It was sold as the way to achieve this. Fact is the government was never interested in halting immigration either way
That too is just a lie. One of 1000 lies
Not a fan, but he is so impressive and so correct. As a non-Brit, it’s stunning to see how the quality of GB Politicians has declined.
It just goes to show how low the UK has gone ..... and it still has a long slippery slope to go. By the time they hit the U bend, John Major will be declared a Saint!!!
He was spot on
When was this media presentation from Sir John. Did the Rt Hon gentleman mention this in his memoirs
Of course he was completely right, as I knew myself. You did not need to be an ex PM to know all of this. It was the most dishonest and nonsensical choice anyone could be asked to make and there was never a chance that it would deliver even a single one of the unattainable promises.
"Trade deals" 😂😂😂😂
I was returning a small item of less than £20 to Amazon in France yesterday and the I had to print 3 copies of an 'invoice', one for the Border Control in the UK, one for the Border Control in France and one for the retailer. That's Brexit for you. Absolute madness.
I have no time for the man yet I must say that I agree with every word he spoke in this interview. Philip P.
Can you imagine a Conservative Party being like John Major?
It will never be like him ever again.
We will rejoin the EU.
Maybe in 15-20 years!
yeah...just like turkey have joined since...
not our decision, up to the EU and can you honestly visualise them wanting us back?
@@LeonLShaw The would be happy to see the UK back, but only if the UK commits completely, ie. accepts euro and joins the Schengen Zone.
@@user-zx3hl4hq3tif those were the terms offered,.I'd totally reject them
I wish Keir Stammer would have a look at this interview and pluck up the courage promise to end Brexit.
He was so right and nobody listened. The last of the honest politicians. Tories and Labour equally not to be trusted. Time for change.
John Major was (and still is) 100% correct in every detail. It's a tragedy that more people didn't listen to him at the time.
Brexiteers:
„The Brexit will claim £350m
for the NHS!“
The NHS:
„The computer says - No!“
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He covered every base here. But the media and comedy did such a hatchet job on Major when he was in government that he lost a lot of respect, the residual effects of which were still in play at the time of the campaign. He was given brutal treatment by Spitting image and the like.
John Major for PM 🇬🇧 we love the UK on “the continent” and we need you back in the EU with politicians like John Major leading the way - honesty, vision, wisdom and courage. Love and respect from Denmark 🇩🇰
And some folk are still believers, they just 'believe' its' implementation failed...