Tell me some games that you love! I wanted to add a couple more things, but I felt like the video was getting a little too long: 7. The models are comparatively cheap. Every single box in the game is designed to be come with a playable unit size (4 cav, 12 infantry, etc.) and they're all $35. The boxes that come with heroes come with ~5 heroes and they're also $35. 8. Heroes don't have their own attack profile or dice to role. When you add an "attachment" to a combat unit, it gives the unit extra abilities, special rules, etc. which I LOVE. It makes list building so much fun because depending on what attachment you have in a unit, the unit can function very differently.
I've looked at the game and some of the people painting armies on the LAF, but it's something that I'm still not sure about. I have been playing a lot of Dragon Rampant (Mixed with Lion Rampant stuff) and some Oathmark...Oathmark tends to fill the rank and flank itch for me there and both games are open for using whatever minis I want in the force.
one of my favorites to play is the OnePageRules fantasy/grimdark games. The basic rules are free, and if you have a 3d printer, you can either join their patreon and get their models there, or get the files off of myminifactory, so you can create your own army from scratch.
Thanks for the thoughtful, honest take on this game Scott! I always love to hear this kind of "personal perspective" on these sorts of games! I've heard whispers about ASOIAF for awhile now and this might just have been the push I needed to go and pick it up myself! Great vid!
Really fond of the idea of alternating activation in a wargame. More immersive and tactically engaging than "all my units do all their things, then all your units do their things.
Personality I find it less immersive, "oh yeah my whole army sits and does nothing as 1 unit moves forward by itself and the enemy gets to counter it however they want, with 1 unit... Then suddenly the side that has left over units gets to move a bunch of stuff in coordination..."
@@matthiuskoenig3378 It's that last part that I dislike, though I don't dislike it any more than alpha striking which comes from all going at once. Both are a meta tactic caused by the turn order mechanism, neither one really fun to experience or IMO, play.
@@matthiuskoenig3378 there are ways to balance it, but for me makes much more sense than "look, the whole enemy army is moving and firing, let's just stay put and wait for our turn, boys... if we are alive" - i'm realy fond of bolt action random activation method
@@matthiuskoenig3378 Still far better than "yeah, my whole army sits around doing nothing while the enemy does everything and kills us". IGOUGO is a dated mechanic that luckily most developers are moving away from.
I vastly prefer alternating over watching literally everything move before me. My favorite method is what X-Wing utilizes though. It's a bit more complicated than just alternating actions but it helps account for pilots having more or less skill than other pilots.
But they seem to be supporting this one rather well - and tbh, it appears to have landed quite well, as well. Ie. There's good reason to support its longevity.
@@Kobylad I'm in the Midlands mate, play in my flgs black dragon miniatures. Quite a few players here and around. There's a great FB group, Warhammer fantasy 6th edition (imaginative name) where folks chat and advertise events like Warhammer resurrection
I love listening to people passionately talking about things they love. It's a nice change from the negativity that thrives on the internet. Don't know if I'll ever play ASoIaF, but still enjoyed the video!
I’m so excited to see you getting into a game that isn’t from GW! I appreciated the part of this video about rules because that is personally my favorite part about non-GW games, they have genuinely good and interesting rules!!!
I'm hella into Middle Earth SBG at the moment. It's just such a great system with models that are so simple yet fun to paint. It's really got me into LOTR lore etc. in a way that 5 years ago would seem laughable. Edit: while it's not alternating actions, it's alternating phases, your hero characters have resources that they can spend to act out of sequence etc. It adds a great deal of tactics/strategy. I feel like it'd make a good contrast to ASOIAF as it's very skirmish and almost roleplay heavy so like the polar opposite of block infantry.
I’ve been thinking of getting back into Middle-earth SBG. I used to play it around The Two Towers edition, but I don’t think I played it as efficiently as it’s meant to be played.
I love the SBG system, be nice if they update some of the troop kits eventually (although I enjoy the simplicity of the fairly bad plastic moulds for painting goblin hordes lol). Just comparing it to the Warhammer systems it's amazing how much better it feels having fixed charge ranges and the ability to react to your opponents movement before the combat begins. And having heroes be properly heroic is pretty great.
@@Jorfik yeah for me 40k/AoS tends to boil down to, if I have a great turn my opponent has a shit one, if I have a shit turn my opponent rejoices at my sadness. It just doesn't feel interactive at times.
The minis look good, and people seem to be loving the game. I'm not feeling faction based rank and flank games anymore, though. I like games like Dragon Rampant and Oathmark where I choose the minis I like to be part of the army I envision. I'm glad ASOIAF is out there though, people deserve to have all these great options!
i've just been indulging in my over 20 years of love for Star Wars with Legion models arent as good as warhammer but i get to paint 501st clones and recreate scences from RotJ
Yeah I have a friend that wants to try sw legion as well. Problem for me is I’m not really feeling the Star Wars universe anymore. No miniature game beats warhammer lore for me yet but I do hope I’ll find one as well.
I think the models, post sprue adoption match warhammer, it's just not as bombastic imo. my Mandalorians had plenty of details i had to paint when i did them, and their nature let me paint each of them with unique colors+decals, whereas with my sisters of battle 40k army, i know it'd be goofy if i did that.
Honestly it's one of my favorite games of all time. Sorta Picked it up at the beginning of the pandemic on a whim. I had heard D6 generation waxing about how cool the game was. I think one of the biggest Pro's... is it is ready to go out of the box. Everything is built and each faction color coded. The starter box and a few other boxes sets you up to have a lot of fun right out the gate. Dark Sword Miniatures sculpts are also getting better each faction, each unit. Really glad to hear you like it. Loved the painting video of the Reapers showing 10min vs 1 hour vs 10 hours. It made me rethink painting of this rank and file and spend most time on what models I wanted to be in front and spending less time on the ones in the back. Thanks for your content and welcome.
Conquest by Para Bellum. You want a modern rank and file game? Boom! You want a Skirmish game? Boom! You can use the same miniatures! Also all rules free on their website.
I finally was able to show this game off to a couple of friends. The next day they both bought starter sets and now we play it weekly. It's a lot of fun. Glad you're enjoying it.
Really great video Scott! It is incredible to see how those of our generation of the 90s go through a similar stage. I remember that I started with the hobby with the miniatures of the Lord of the Rings, moving on to Warhammer and Confrontation. And to return to the hobby during 2017 with the new editions, I remember that since that year I discovered your channel as well. Pure and living nostalgia. I have not yet been able to catch a game that really "catches" me but I am already looking at the end of the pandemic to be able to try some games such as Monsterapocalypse, AT-43 among others that I have always wanted to play. On the other hand, it's good to know Scott that you're doing a project for yourself, and not just because of the channel. It is important for your emotional and mental health. I'm glad that you can share that with those of us who have followed you for so many years, and I hope you can find more moments like this!
Good work Scott. It's refreshing to see something different other than the latest GW hotness behemoth . As a non GW gamer it's really appreciated and I hope more YTubers do the same.
ASOIAF is actually what got me into wargaming! Really happy to see it get more traction recently, it's a fun system that deserves more players. Something I would have mentioned is that there is a fantastic, free Tabletop Simulator mod for the game so you can completely try the game before you buy anything. My biggest gripe is more with the publishers, and that's how poor the worldwide distribution is (even precovid/brexit). Might not be as big of an issue in the US, but the UK has had year long delays on new stuff, which kills a lot of the hype. It's frustrating to see half the world playing with new toys while you have to proxy/pretend it doesn't exist.
For the longest time, I was looking to find a rank and file game that filled the whole that WHFB left in my heart, then I found ASOIAF. Despite never having played a game I’m collecting and painting it. Discovering one of my favorite CZcamsrs has a passion for the game was the cherry on top!
Battletech. Been a fan for years. Scalable down to a tabletop RPG, scalable up to planetary and system operations which have reach all throughout. The lore is more fleshed out, less cheese, the IP has less drama (lookin' at you, GW), and who doesn't love giant freakin' stompy robots?!
Battletech is where I started... I am loving (from a distance) their new miniatures which was a huge issue with the game in the past. Part of that is too many Mech designs out there and often the don't look cohesive at all (a Gauss on a Hollander vs a Gauss on a Ceasar) and you cannot tell what belongs to who or what weapon is what on a mech... many times it's hard to tell Mechs are from the same game! The depth in the game itself is both great and meh. I do however love the fact all damage is resolved at the end of that phase so "dead" units still get to shoot that turn. However there is an issue with too much complexity to the game that can make them drag on too long... or the extreme luck ruining a good game with a headshot.
Alternating activations is one of the reasons I really like dropzone commander. That and the lore, and the models, and the lack of rules bloat... And each unit gets a transport... and you can play apoc scale games without bankrupting yourself
A lot of the mechanics you discuss in this game remind me of Oathmark, by the author of Frostgrave rules. A big advantage of Oathmark is you can use low fantasy miniatures already in your collection.
There are bunch of games I'd like to play but it's straight up impossible for me to do so since my local gamestore doesn't organize play for anything other than Warhammer and MtG. Like for example OPR's Fantasy game and Vincy V's Reign in hell. Main reason why I like both is because they're miniature agnostic games and ever since I got into 3d printing I've just been building armies based entirely on the models I wanna use but in Age of Sigmar I always struggle with getting it to work thanks to silly rules like requiring 3 battlelines. Most factions just don't have an option for single model,elite battleline so you're usually immediately forced to have like 30 models you don't even want in your army and that is just not fun for me.
Hmm gotta say. After coming into warhammer 40k a year ago and like you said only having the GW/warhammer glasses. I rlly like how you explained this and sounds perfect to what kind of miniature war-game I like. That chess refrence was spot on too i never rlly liked the whole move my entire army then yours turn seemed idk a little lack luster and not as stragegic
Im glad you found a miniature game your passionate about that isn't warhammer. I recently switched from warhammer to Infinity and I cant imagine going back.
Historical ancient and medieval tabletop games is my thing and has been for 35 years. I find history more fascinating and deeper than lore created by a fantasy or sci fi setting (although it can be cool too). The figures I play with are smaller (15mm) but a standard game can have a couple of hundred miniatures on the table for each side. Armies and units do not have special abilities, but armies have individual flavour based upon their historical structure.
Last year I delved into WH40K and find it interesting and different. The lore is interesting, the figures fantastical and fun to paint. The game play is very different from historical wargames. A lot of it is about heroic single figures and stacked buffs/debuffs/effects. I really prefer the historical stuff but it is all fun and in the end it is great that there is heaps of variety so people can find and play the game they love.
I've been playing various miniature wargames for something like 13 years. ASOIAF is by far the most strategic and balanced game I have ever played, I would strongly recommend
I have recently gotten into Moonstone. The game barely uses dice and is a lot of fun to be able to pick what you want in a faction and have them work well together.
Cool to hear that you're enjoying a game that captures the feeling of when you started wargaming. Thanks for sharing your thoughts about it and hope you continue to have an awesome time with it :)
Also the ASOIAF minis are so much fun to paint. Have a ton of detail and are much more affordable than GW minis. Not sure theyll ever introduce the Army of the Dead but it would be fun to have a special set of rules for them, or like a Pandemic-style players vs. Game expansion.
Rank and file troops on a movement tray is one of the biggest things I miss about Warhammer fantasy because every damn game now is a skirmish game. 40 pikeman on a movement tray slowly sliding forwards and being cockblocked a boulder because you deployed poorly just brings back good memories.
Great game. Great mechanics. Easy enough but super crunchy if you want. Super competitive or fun fluff with one of my favorite IPs. We tend to call it SONG.
I have been exploring Oathmark. I like their campaign game ideas and freedom to build your kingdom as you wish. It's not perfect and you can play a game with 2 boxes of miniatures, One for each side.
Going through the same thing. Rediscovering my love of miniature games and hobbying again. Finally got play in person games at my LGS and can't wait to play more again.
I would really love too see now if this, maybe some painting videos or just anything to be honest 😂 going to buy this at the end of the month too play with my dad and some friends! Thank you for this video!
I didn't know you were in this game. Good video I'm a Big fan of the lore, but above all, when i watched video of this GamePlay, i instantly thought "hell..this game is vert good. Very smart"
Welcome to the club For me it was even like that I bought the game and knew absolutely nothing about Game of Throne except for the previews on TV. Until I showed it to a friend and he said "That's Game of Thrones" Then I started reading the books in (a little) shame
What a great review for a great game. I bought into this game a couple months ago myself. I have found a lot of joy in painting the models and playing. I am glad to see someone with such a large following tell people about it.
Stumbled upon your video and found it informative as well as entertaining. Even a year later. Another thing I like about ASOIAF Miniatures Game is the great app "war council" that is free and gives you all the rules of all the units, so you don't have to peek into an Army Book or even spend money on an Army (Book) that turns out to be not your style.
Just got into Conquest, last argument of kings, and it's freakin awesome in a lot of ways. Also infinity has been a good companion for some time now... Planning on testing punkapocaliptic and saga.
Star Wars Legion was the first wargame I played (and painted actually) and I still love it. First...it's SW lol. But I like the mechanics behind it as well, including alternating activations.
11:23 every time I see this angle in blog style videos I'm like "Who are you talking to?! I'm right here!" I'm sure there's much better ways to use a second camera than to just show off the fact that you have one
As soon as I find someone who plays it, I'll try it. I'm overjoyed that you produced content about non-GW product. The community needs more of that (I understand why people use it so frequently). Great video. You've got some new camera tricks that I haven't seen before!
Just watched my first full 40 point game that took over 2 hours.... one beginner and one intermediate player. It was pretty cool. I just ordered my Night's Watch starter set, heroes 3 pack, and builder Scorpion and can't wait to get my ass handed to me my first game very soon....
Acronyms can skip the connecting words. Example: NASA = National Aeronautics and Space Administration :. Therefore this can happen: a Song of Ice and Fire = SIF
From my perspective the game has gotten better. More units, more factions and the factions seem more different from each other. Scott has done some really well done battle reports on his Miniac Backlog channel and he just did a great Greyjoy vs. Bolton on his main channel. I would recommend them all.
Tell me some games that you love! I wanted to add a couple more things, but I felt like the video was getting a little too long:
7. The models are comparatively cheap. Every single box in the game is designed to be come with a playable unit size (4 cav, 12 infantry, etc.) and they're all $35. The boxes that come with heroes come with ~5 heroes and they're also $35.
8. Heroes don't have their own attack profile or dice to role. When you add an "attachment" to a combat unit, it gives the unit extra abilities, special rules, etc. which I LOVE. It makes list building so much fun because depending on what attachment you have in a unit, the unit can function very differently.
I've looked at the game and some of the people painting armies on the LAF, but it's something that I'm still not sure about.
I have been playing a lot of Dragon Rampant (Mixed with Lion Rampant stuff) and some Oathmark...Oathmark tends to fill the rank and flank itch for me there and both games are open for using whatever minis I want in the force.
Your outro needs more cowbell
one of my favorites to play is the OnePageRules fantasy/grimdark games. The basic rules are free, and if you have a 3d printer, you can either join their patreon and get their models there, or get the files off of myminifactory, so you can create your own army from scratch.
Age of Fantasy and Grimdark Future are my favorites. Excellent ruleset.
I, personally, love Frostgrave :)
Good to see you having fun with a new game! I keep eying these up everytime I'm at my local store... someday, someday.... Also HI CURTIS!!!
it is really fun.
Buy it goobsies. I'm looking at the starter collection!!!
Stick to your half naked Barbarians surrounding the miniature of you that you painted.
Thanks for the thoughtful, honest take on this game Scott! I always love to hear this kind of "personal perspective" on these sorts of games! I've heard whispers about ASOIAF for awhile now and this might just have been the push I needed to go and pick it up myself! Great vid!
If you come to Adepticon, let's get a game in!
@Miniac Sounds fun!!!!
Really fond of the idea of alternating activation in a wargame. More immersive and tactically engaging than "all my units do all their things, then all your units do their things.
Personality I find it less immersive, "oh yeah my whole army sits and does nothing as 1 unit moves forward by itself and the enemy gets to counter it however they want, with 1 unit... Then suddenly the side that has left over units gets to move a bunch of stuff in coordination..."
@@matthiuskoenig3378 It's that last part that I dislike, though I don't dislike it any more than alpha striking which comes from all going at once. Both are a meta tactic caused by the turn order mechanism, neither one really fun to experience or IMO, play.
@@matthiuskoenig3378 there are ways to balance it, but for me makes much more sense than "look, the whole enemy army is moving and firing, let's just stay put and wait for our turn, boys... if we are alive" - i'm realy fond of bolt action random activation method
@@matthiuskoenig3378 Still far better than "yeah, my whole army sits around doing nothing while the enemy does everything and kills us".
IGOUGO is a dated mechanic that luckily most developers are moving away from.
I vastly prefer alternating over watching literally everything move before me.
My favorite method is what X-Wing utilizes though. It's a bit more complicated than just alternating actions but it helps account for pilots having more or less skill than other pilots.
I think the MESBG community would love to see you do a video on the game since it was what brought you into the hobby!
100% mesbg has always been my main game/hobby love, so always love seeing the bigger hobby voices show it some love!
My major concern about this game: CMON itself. They’re not known for loyalty to their own products.
The exact same reason why I stopped purchasing Fantasy Flight games - been burnt too many times.
But they seem to be supporting this one rather well - and tbh, it appears to have landed quite well, as well. Ie. There's good reason to support its longevity.
True. *cries in Dark Age*
@@chaoticflanagan Went way before its' time...
Hell, can't even find 'em anywhere, even to just collect them, that's not E-bay.
@@14Flamefish they may be suffering from the too successful problem. Combine with covid challenges and you can have a real clusterfuck.
Woo Hoo 6th Ed WFB making an appearance, the best edition ever!
God it was good….
@@Kobylad I regularly play, part of a revival scene here in the UK. And me and my mate are also going full nostalgia with 3/4 ed 40k
@@Ed-xo9pc WHEREEEEE i live near manchester!
@@Ed-xo9pc yeh i played alot of 4th as well, vogan campaign and all that jazz. Forgeworld was taboo and you just needed one book for your army 😂
@@Kobylad I'm in the Midlands mate, play in my flgs black dragon miniatures. Quite a few players here and around. There's a great FB group, Warhammer fantasy 6th edition (imaginative name) where folks chat and advertise events like Warhammer resurrection
I love listening to people passionately talking about things they love. It's a nice change from the negativity that thrives on the internet. Don't know if I'll ever play ASoIaF, but still enjoyed the video!
This game is awesome, I play it on Thursdays with my local group and we grow all the time
Excited to have you as part of our community !!! Love the channel, and look forward to more ASOIAF !!
I’m so excited to see you getting into a game that isn’t from GW! I appreciated the part of this video about rules because that is personally my favorite part about non-GW games, they have genuinely good and interesting rules!!!
Great video and welcome to ASOIAF TMG!
I feel you. The best I have played in a long time. Nothing new, nothing especially innovative but a
Lot of good stuff packed into a small rulebook
I'm hella into Middle Earth SBG at the moment. It's just such a great system with models that are so simple yet fun to paint. It's really got me into LOTR lore etc. in a way that 5 years ago would seem laughable.
Edit: while it's not alternating actions, it's alternating phases, your hero characters have resources that they can spend to act out of sequence etc. It adds a great deal of tactics/strategy.
I feel like it'd make a good contrast to ASOIAF as it's very skirmish and almost roleplay heavy so like the polar opposite of block infantry.
Not to mention the huge fantasy world and close to 100 playable armies (including legendary legions) SBG looks amazing on the table.
I’ve been thinking of getting back into Middle-earth SBG. I used to play it around The Two Towers edition, but I don’t think I played it as efficiently as it’s meant to be played.
I love the SBG system, be nice if they update some of the troop kits eventually (although I enjoy the simplicity of the fairly bad plastic moulds for painting goblin hordes lol).
Just comparing it to the Warhammer systems it's amazing how much better it feels having fixed charge ranges and the ability to react to your opponents movement before the combat begins. And having heroes be properly heroic is pretty great.
@@Jorfik yeah for me 40k/AoS tends to boil down to, if I have a great turn my opponent has a shit one, if I have a shit turn my opponent rejoices at my sadness. It just doesn't feel interactive at times.
@@alastairtivy-harris8129 definitely, the big downside now is that so much of the line is OOP.
I’m really liking games with alternating activations lately. Feels fresh!
This makes me excited for Old World. Can't wait to see GW to finally get back into regiment movement block tabletop.
Glad to see this game getting promoted. It's been a hidden gem
YES! I recently picked up the game and I wished bigger names would talk about it because its sooo good!
I've just started playing this game a week ago. And I have to say it's one of the best games I've played my friend got me and 10 ppl Starter box's
The minis look good, and people seem to be loving the game. I'm not feeling faction based rank and flank games anymore, though. I like games like Dragon Rampant and Oathmark where I choose the minis I like to be part of the army I envision. I'm glad ASOIAF is out there though, people deserve to have all these great options!
i've just been indulging in my over 20 years of love for Star Wars with Legion
models arent as good as warhammer but i get to paint 501st clones and recreate scences from RotJ
Hey that's awesome not a fan of star wars but those models s are great
Yeah I have a friend that wants to try sw legion as well. Problem for me is I’m not really feeling the Star Wars universe anymore. No miniature game beats warhammer lore for me yet but I do hope I’ll find one as well.
I think the models, post sprue adoption match warhammer, it's just not as bombastic imo. my Mandalorians had plenty of details i had to paint when i did them, and their nature let me paint each of them with unique colors+decals, whereas with my sisters of battle 40k army, i know it'd be goofy if i did that.
The older sculpts of legion arent perfect but the newer ones are outstanding
I play Song of Ice & Fire for rank and flank and Legion for skirmish.
Honestly it's one of my favorite games of all time. Sorta Picked it up at the beginning of the pandemic on a whim. I had heard D6 generation waxing about how cool the game was. I think one of the biggest Pro's... is it is ready to go out of the box. Everything is built and each faction color coded. The starter box and a few other boxes sets you up to have a lot of fun right out the gate. Dark Sword Miniatures sculpts are also getting better each faction, each unit. Really glad to hear you like it. Loved the painting video of the Reapers showing 10min vs 1 hour vs 10 hours. It made me rethink painting of this rank and file and spend most time on what models I wanted to be in front and spending less time on the ones in the back. Thanks for your content and welcome.
Conquest by Para Bellum. You want a modern rank and file game? Boom! You want a Skirmish game? Boom! You can use the same miniatures! Also all rules free on their website.
I finally was able to show this game off to a couple of friends. The next day they both bought starter sets and now we play it weekly. It's a lot of fun. Glad you're enjoying it.
Other games with alternating unit activations worth checking out: Conquest, Fallout Wasteland Warfare, Star Wars Legion.
Really great video Scott!
It is incredible to see how those of our generation of the 90s go through a similar stage. I remember that I started with the hobby with the miniatures of the Lord of the Rings, moving on to Warhammer and Confrontation. And to return to the hobby during 2017 with the new editions, I remember that since that year I discovered your channel as well. Pure and living nostalgia.
I have not yet been able to catch a game that really "catches" me but I am already looking at the end of the pandemic to be able to try some games such as Monsterapocalypse, AT-43 among others that I have always wanted to play.
On the other hand, it's good to know Scott that you're doing a project for yourself, and not just because of the channel. It is important for your emotional and mental health. I'm glad that you can share that with those of us who have followed you for so many years, and I hope you can find more moments like this!
Yeeeeeeeees, another player, and it's the Miniac no less!
Good work Scott. It's refreshing to see something different other than the latest GW hotness behemoth . As a non GW gamer it's really appreciated and I hope more YTubers do the same.
ASOIAF is actually what got me into wargaming! Really happy to see it get more traction recently, it's a fun system that deserves more players. Something I would have mentioned is that there is a fantastic, free Tabletop Simulator mod for the game so you can completely try the game before you buy anything.
My biggest gripe is more with the publishers, and that's how poor the worldwide distribution is (even precovid/brexit). Might not be as big of an issue in the US, but the UK has had year long delays on new stuff, which kills a lot of the hype. It's frustrating to see half the world playing with new toys while you have to proxy/pretend it doesn't exist.
Ice and fire is an amazing game, its also given me that enthusiasm for gaming again since the days of the old world.
Damn I love this game. Honestly I feel like it’s more approachable to new players
Yes! Finally this game is getting some recognition. Hopefully it will become more popular and I will actually find someone to play with!
For the longest time, I was looking to find a rank and file game that filled the whole that WHFB left in my heart, then I found ASOIAF. Despite never having played a game I’m collecting and painting it. Discovering one of my favorite CZcamsrs has a passion for the game was the cherry on top!
Never found Mantic Games "Kings of War"? It was created by former GW creators and has army lists for anyone with a WFB army lying around.
I love the ASOIAF [have to check the acronym...] miniatures - they are good quality and the right price for mass battle armies.
best rank and flank game in production at the moment imo
At the moment my favorite is Test of Honor: fast paced, cinematic, and super easy to teach, plus you can play Samurai, and who doesn't like Samurai?
Dude I started reading the first book days ago and then you show up this amazing game that I didnt know it exists. Thanks miniac!
Battletech. Been a fan for years. Scalable down to a tabletop RPG, scalable up to planetary and system operations which have reach all throughout. The lore is more fleshed out, less cheese, the IP has less drama (lookin' at you, GW), and who doesn't love giant freakin' stompy robots?!
Battletech is where I started... I am loving (from a distance) their new miniatures which was a huge issue with the game in the past. Part of that is too many Mech designs out there and often the don't look cohesive at all (a Gauss on a Hollander vs a Gauss on a Ceasar) and you cannot tell what belongs to who or what weapon is what on a mech... many times it's hard to tell Mechs are from the same game!
The depth in the game itself is both great and meh. I do however love the fact all damage is resolved at the end of that phase so "dead" units still get to shoot that turn. However there is an issue with too much complexity to the game that can make them drag on too long... or the extreme luck ruining a good game with a headshot.
THE INTRO IS BACK!!!
This made me happier than it should. lol
Alternating activations is one of the reasons I really like dropzone commander. That and the lore, and the models, and the lack of rules bloat... And each unit gets a transport... and you can play apoc scale games without bankrupting yourself
I also love this game, dropfleet too. I just struggle to get excited about painting the minis
Grimdark future is the same way
I really enjoyed the lore to DZC.
I also like Dropzone
That's a nice profile picture you have there.
Best part of the vid @5:42
Classic Scot tongue action.
You passion really shows in this video dude
A lot of the mechanics you discuss in this game remind me of Oathmark, by the author of Frostgrave rules. A big advantage of Oathmark is you can use low fantasy miniatures already in your collection.
There are bunch of games I'd like to play but it's straight up impossible for me to do so since my local gamestore doesn't organize play for anything other than Warhammer and MtG.
Like for example OPR's Fantasy game and Vincy V's Reign in hell. Main reason why I like both is because they're miniature agnostic games and ever since I got into 3d printing I've just been building armies based entirely on the models I wanna use but in Age of Sigmar I always struggle with getting it to work thanks to silly rules like requiring 3 battlelines.
Most factions just don't have an option for single model,elite battleline so you're usually immediately forced to have like 30 models you don't even want in your army and that is just not fun for me.
Hmm gotta say. After coming into warhammer 40k a year ago and like you said only having the GW/warhammer glasses. I rlly like how you explained this and sounds perfect to what kind of miniature war-game I like. That chess refrence was spot on too i never rlly liked the whole move my entire army then yours turn seemed idk a little lack luster and not as stragegic
I played the game a couple of years ago after backing the KS and it was a lovely experience. I hope to play it more in the future. :)
Good to see the Source is still alive and kicking! I got into D&D, Magic, and have supplied my 40K hobbying there!
This makes me happy I have the starter set and I want to paint it eventually and play with it.
Back this on kickstarter and have played a grand total of once. Really heed to get it on the table again!
I love ASOIAF, glad others are gaining love for this awesome miniature war game! I don’t live too far from you, maybe someday we can play.
Im glad you found a miniature game your passionate about that isn't warhammer. I recently switched from warhammer to Infinity and I cant imagine going back.
My fav mini games are Bolt Action and Fallout Wasteland Warfare. Love painting and playing these!
Infinity
The models look great and the game system with reaction orders is equal to none. Makes the game so dynamic and lethal and realistic !
Circle bases in a square movement trays are 10/10
Had my first game yesterday with my Baratheons against my friend Lannister’s and it was soooo great ! I agree on 1000% on everything you say 🥳
The problem I generally have with CMON is every time I start getting into a game they are pushing, they then stop supporting the product. :(
Historical ancient and medieval tabletop games is my thing and has been for 35 years. I find history more fascinating and deeper than lore created by a fantasy or sci fi setting (although it can be cool too). The figures I play with are smaller (15mm) but a standard game can have a couple of hundred miniatures on the table for each side. Armies and units do not have special abilities, but armies have individual flavour based upon their historical structure.
Last year I delved into WH40K and find it interesting and different. The lore is interesting, the figures fantastical and fun to paint. The game play is very different from historical wargames. A lot of it is about heroic single figures and stacked buffs/debuffs/effects. I really prefer the historical stuff but it is all fun and in the end it is great that there is heaps of variety so people can find and play the game they love.
I've been playing various miniature wargames for something like 13 years. ASOIAF is by far the most strategic and balanced game I have ever played, I would strongly recommend
When you play the ASOIAF miniatures game, you either win or you die.
I don't know if I will play the game but I will definitely collect and paint the miniatures. I've been eyeing the Baratheon faction.
2:03 lower left hand corner Sea Dog Game Studios Adepticon booth.
We have a lot in common when it comes to sitting on the floor, but not so much when it comes to reading.
I have recently gotten into Moonstone. The game barely uses dice and is a lot of fun to be able to pick what you want in a faction and have them work well together.
Cool to hear that you're enjoying a game that captures the feeling of when you started wargaming. Thanks for sharing your thoughts about it and hope you continue to have an awesome time with it :)
Star Wars Armada has been my wargame of choice for years now. I absolutely love it. You make a persuasive case for Song of Ice and Fire though.
I grew up playing Heroscape, it's incredibly fun!
I went straight to my local shop and picked it up after watching this morning.
We're happy that you are happy!!!
Dude this game is epic. Soo glad someone on CZcams is shining some light on it
Also the ASOIAF minis are so much fun to paint. Have a ton of detail and are much more affordable than GW minis.
Not sure theyll ever introduce the Army of the Dead but it would be fun to have a special set of rules for them, or like a Pandemic-style players vs. Game expansion.
Might have to give it a try
Rank and file troops on a movement tray is one of the biggest things I miss about Warhammer fantasy because every damn game now is a skirmish game.
40 pikeman on a movement tray slowly sliding forwards and being cockblocked a boulder because you deployed poorly just brings back good memories.
Great game. Great mechanics. Easy enough but super crunchy if you want. Super competitive or fun fluff with one of my favorite IPs.
We tend to call it SONG.
I have a Lannister force that is evolving towards a Bolton force. Real fun game with fun minis.
I have been exploring Oathmark. I like their campaign game ideas and freedom to build your kingdom as you wish. It's not perfect and you can play a game with 2 boxes of miniatures, One for each side.
Going through the same thing. Rediscovering my love of miniature games and hobbying again. Finally got play in person games at my LGS and can't wait to play more again.
I would really love too see now if this, maybe some painting videos or just anything to be honest 😂 going to buy this at the end of the month too play with my dad and some friends! Thank you for this video!
Maybe the box with the dragons??
I didn't know you were in this game.
Good video
I'm a Big fan of the lore, but above all, when i watched video of this GamePlay, i instantly thought "hell..this game is vert good. Very smart"
Agree with your points. Got this off Kickstarter a while back, and it's an objectively good game.
I think another pro is the boxes they come in double as a carrying case to move the models safely to and from LGS
Love ASOF miniature war game. Really wish I had more time to get to the table.
Welcome to the club For me it was even like that I bought the game and knew absolutely nothing about Game of Throne except for the previews on TV. Until I showed it to a friend and he said "That's Game of Thrones"
Then I started reading the books in (a little)
shame
The production value!!!
Thanks for introducing this game, it looks refreshing
What a great review for a great game. I bought into this game a couple months ago myself. I have found a lot of joy in painting the models and playing. I am glad to see someone with such a large following tell people about it.
Stumbled upon your video and found it informative as well as entertaining. Even a year later.
Another thing I like about ASOIAF Miniatures Game is the great app "war council" that is free and gives you all the rules of all the units, so you don't have to peek into an Army Book or even spend money on an Army (Book) that turns out to be not your style.
Just got into Conquest, last argument of kings, and it's freakin awesome in a lot of ways. Also infinity has been a good companion for some time now... Planning on testing punkapocaliptic and saga.
Star Wars Legion was the first wargame I played (and painted actually) and I still love it. First...it's SW lol. But I like the mechanics behind it as well, including alternating activations.
Its good that you're excited for something new, keeps the creative juices flowing.
Nice man. Cool to see the excitement. Im in a similar boat right now excitement wise with Frostgrave. Having a blast with it.
really enjoying warhammer underworlds, carnevale, and Malifaux currently. Good to see some non-gw games get some love!
Loved this. A friend owns it, so I need to get him to show it to me.
Alternating activations is what drew me into Guildball, absolutely love the flow of the game when it's back and forth.
11:23 every time I see this angle in blog style videos I'm like "Who are you talking to?! I'm right here!"
I'm sure there's much better ways to use a second camera than to just show off the fact that you have one
I've been wargaming for 25 years, and ASOIAF is my favorite.
If anyone reading this is a fan of the books/show... definitely pick it up.
As soon as I find someone who plays it, I'll try it. I'm overjoyed that you produced content about non-GW product. The community needs more of that (I understand why people use it so frequently). Great video. You've got some new camera tricks that I haven't seen before!
Just watched my first full 40 point game that took over 2 hours.... one beginner and one intermediate player. It was pretty cool. I just ordered my Night's Watch starter set, heroes 3 pack, and builder Scorpion and can't wait to get my ass handed to me my first game very soon....
Glad to see this game finally getting some recognition! It's a ton of fun and I'm super happy you're into it.
Acronyms can skip the connecting words.
Example: NASA = National Aeronautics and Space Administration
:. Therefore this can happen:
a Song of Ice and Fire = SIF
2 Years later: How is it now?
Did the game get better, did you get bored/still play it? Any people that started recently?
From my perspective the game has gotten better. More units, more factions and the factions seem more different from each other. Scott has done some really well done battle reports on his Miniac Backlog channel and he just did a great Greyjoy vs. Bolton on his main channel. I would recommend them all.
Awesome game is awesome. Good to see you covering song, hope to see more stuff