The Top 5 Best Skirmish Games!... according to me
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- čas přidán 24. 07. 2024
- Skirmish games are awesome, and there are a wide variety available on the market. Let's talk a bit about my 5 favs!
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Bushido is my absolute favorite miniature.I'm painting up my first drowned earth crew and looking forward to getting some games in. Good list. Some of the smaller but definitily worthwhile names on it.
It seems you are a person of culture and taste :) It's definitely good to get more eyes on some of the smaller games, they deserve it
Great video! I’d definitely love to see more infinity content with how great your Malifaux videos are 😁
Aw shucks :) I've got a giant pile of Infinity books around here that I need to dive into
@@DefectiveDice they’re all so great!
Thanks for the video, many games I haven't heard of before. I've been strongly gravitating towards skirmish games because adult responsibilities take time. It's really cool to just paint ten dudes and have fun gaming. I recently got into Kill Team and now I have three fully painted teams so I can have different gaming experiences or introduce the game to a friend by lending a team (already have one friend hooked). If I'd chosen 40k I'd barely have 500 points by now.
I've played Infinity some years ago, really itching to try it again. Drowned earth also looks super cool
Yes! Skirmish is much easier to collect and to paint
Infinity is a top tier skirmish game. Setting, hyper-tactical gameplay. ARO is amazing. Would love to hear more about your journey in the system.
So far my experience has been really good. I love the setting as well
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Can’t stand the ARO system.
@@kaibe5241 why is that?
Love Infinity on one side, hate it on another. Can't stand the unlimited orders use per model. You end up with half (or even more with CA for example) of trash models that are there just to give orders to high tier ones. On top of that, if you get lucky with a roll on one flank at some point you can just re-iterate your orders there to go on and annihilate the opponent flank.
Great list. I've got the Operation Icestorm 2 player set and the Beyond Icestorm expansions for Infinity. I've had it for years and have all the Nomads painted and some of the PanOceana models painted. Sadly I've only gotten to play it once and enjoyed it.
I have a lot of models for The Drowned Earth and have played it several times. I've had it since the original kickstarter. Great models, great world background and great mechanics. I love the way you can climb terrain, get Feats to get more action points and how a leader can attempt to move action points between your models with a Command role. Love the game.
I have heard of all the others on the games on your list. Of those, Carnevale has interested me the most, followed by Bushido.
I happen to love Fallout Wasteland Warfare and Elder Scrolls Call to Arms skirmish games by Modiphius. They are very well done representations of each respective video game IP. I have a ton of the models for both games and have played them both a lot.
Frostgrave is another great skirmish game I've played a good bit. I also have a sister game to it with a space theme, called Stargrave. I've only played that once.
Walking Dead All Out War is another fun one I've played for years.
A friend of mine has Arena Rex and I've played it once and enjoyed it. He also has Pulp Alley which I've also played once and enjoyed it.
I used to have Guildball and enjoyed that quite a bit.
I have the rulebook for Dracula's America, but unfortunately haven't gotten any of 5he models or played it yet. It does look fun.
Nice! I have a friend who is really into arena rex, ive been looking to get a chance to give it a go
With the exception of Infinity and Malifaux, I've not heard of any others! Thank you for sharing! For my favorites, I like "Dracula's America" an Alt-Wild West skirmish game and I really love "Frostgrave", which is great because you can use just about any fantasy miniatures that you want, not just the official ones. I've also just started playing "First Blood" the skirmish variant of "Conquest: Last Argument of Kings" by Para-bellum Games. I'm only a few games in, but so far, they've been enjoyable. Nothing as innovative as the games on your list, but familiar and easy to learn play-style.
Awesome! I hope you might find something you like.
Ive had a few people raving about Frostgrave and I think im gonna pick up the book. I've heard the mechanics are really well designed. Im not familiar with Dracula's America, but ill check it out. Conquest I just started looking at, but ill have to check out the skirmish rules too for sure, thanks for the tips!
I have yet to play any Malifaux or TTB but man I really love it.
A good way to short hand the control hand in malifaux is its like having a reroll but you know what the reroll is going to be.
Sounds like cheating to me
@@DefectiveDice propodterous we simply choose to make our own luck! Cheating fate, if you will ;)
All these game look awesome and I'd love to try them. Currently I'm playing Deadzone from Mantic games and it's awesome!
Nice! I have been meaning to check out Deadzone
I'm a fan of Relic Blade but I haven't played enough to determine any balance issues it may or may not have, but thus far it's been a lot of fun.
Ive heard good things about Relic Blade, I have to check it out
I'm already into Infinity for years! A favorite of mine. I'm getting into Bushido this year. I just wish it was easier to get some of their figures. Then I also just did a demo of Moonstone and loved it! If you haven't checked that out, I'd recommend doing so. To me, skirmish is the way to go.
Moonstone is one of the ones that keeps getting brought up. I definitely need to check it out!
@@DefectiveDice Like some other games, close combat can be dangerous for both attacker and defender!
My top 5... in order of most played
Infinity
Godtear
MCP
Battletech
Malifaux
That's a great list
recently started to play infinity, and used to play Malifaux back in M2E, maybe looking to get back into M3E. I've heard about the other 3, and Bushido really appealed but i dont think theres a local scene for it, would like to try it though.
Yeah, the trouble with playing smaller games is finding a scene. Sometimes we have to make a scene ourselves lol Let us know if you need help getting back into Faux though, I think M3E is in a really good place.
Over time nearly everybody stopped playing GW games in our club. Now you have the SciFi guys playing Infinity and the fantasy/Steampunk guys going for Malifaux. These are just the best 2 games looking at game mechanics
Sounds like an amazing group
Haven't checked Carnevale - but I will now. I agree on all the other games, they are all excellent. Relicblade is also worth checking out as a small and very fast skirmish game. Moonstone is also worth your time and uses card mechanics with bluffing.
Oo Ill have to check those out. Thank for the tips!
Pulp Alley is my all time favorite set of miniatures rules. It's what you've described as "skirmish."
Great vid - too many cool systems 😁
Thank you. There is so much cool stuff out there. Hoping to spread the awareness
@@DefectiveDice Already into Infinity and Malifaux. Did look at Drowned Earth and Carnevale previously, but the lack of a good 2 faction starter pack for Drowned Earth and the stock/availability of Carnevale from TTCombat held me back. Have said this before, Corvus Belli's starters for CodeOne are the best with everything needed in one box 😁 Have not checked out Bushido as yet.
Love M3E. I've heard of Drowned Earth, Carnevalè, and infinity but haven't played them. All the minis look fantastic though 😁
I've played Warbands Bushido. It's a free game made by the creators of Bushido. Idk if it's exactly the same rule set but it's pretty fun. The sprites are actual minis of each soldier.
oo interesting. I have to check that out. Bushido is a really cool system.
@@DefectiveDice Agreed, I love that there's a reaction when inactive soldiers are attacked. They don't just stand there waiting for their turn.
Forgot about infinity, the rules and army builder are free on line :)
Sounds like it's time to go be reminded :)
I was sitting the entier video saying! MALIFAUX! MALIFAUX! MALIFAUX!
Haha you knew it had to come eventually
Hi great video :) do any of these games have campaign modes?
Malifaux had a campaign mode in 2nd edition but it has not been officially updated for third yet. If there is one for any of the other games, im not aware of it
Although sadly no longer available, I still love Guild Ball. I would place Bushido only very slightly behind it in my top 2.
I need to give Guild Ball a shot, I know a ton of folks who love it!
Ah, I forgot all about Drowned Earth. The rest I either play or follow closely.
It seems you're a person of exquisite tastes 🎉
I love bushido, carnevale, and drowned earth, they are my favorite. I have tried blood bowl
Definitely check out Wild West Exodus!
Everyone keeps saying that. I guess I have to check it out now huh
I love Malifaux but have no one to play with since I moved. I’ve been playing a lot of Forgotten Psalm lately and a game I’m working on.
Yeah I have a similar problem unfortunately. Vassal is pretty good though
Mine would be:
#5 Wild west Exodus
#4 Moonstone
#3 Carnevale
#2 Deadzone
#1 Malifaux
I'd probably have Infinity on there, but I hate metal models
Thats a great list. Wild West Exodus is one that keeps coming up, I have to check it out for sure.
The lack of Marvel Crisis Protocol is disturbing
I actually just recently picked up a few models, hoping to try it out soon
Basic Battles: Super Small Skirmishes
If you've not tried Zona Alfa, that should be next on the list.
Top 5 “sci-fi and fantasy” skirmish games.
Bushido for me, the combat systems is very real.
For sure. I have not played in a while, but I need to start getting back in
Frostgrave, Mordheim, Forbidden Psalm
Oo I haven't heard forbidden psalm yet. I'll have to have a look
@@DefectiveDice it´s after the rpg Mörk Borg, and it is a blast. We have been playing a lot of games lately. Highly recommended.
I played a couple of Infinity matches. I liked it into the basics, got me dizzy into the advanced. It was my second take on wargames, maybe I was a newbie that time, maybe I could give it another chance. I started playing Warcry years ago and I loved it, but it's tied into all the paraphernalia of official models and new rules every years and so into the GW bussines policy...
Then, I discovered Brutality, by Scott Wainwright. Fast, easy, lethal. Miniature agnostic, every terrain and models are valid. Good free rules, even greater Full version. Good for fast paced matches, very modular, use what you have. South americans and other 3rd world people like me are greateful with games like this. But my most played skirmish is Frostgrave. Fantasy themed but still miniature agnostic even if there are official minis by Northstar. Spanish version exists, what is a good thing. More skrimish for most people!
I've got a copy of brutality that I've been meaning to dig into for a while, but I haven't found anyone to play with. I might give the solo game mode a go, thanks for the recommend!
Tribal by Mana Press and Saga by Studio Tomahawk. Both are historical games.
I hadn't heard of tribal, I'll have to check it out, thanks!
The drowned earth looks awesome
It's really cool! Interesting mechanics and beautiful models
My Top 5 in no particular order:
Infinity
Bushido
Batman
Carnevale
Battletech
Very solid list! I have some battletech models, I really need to break them out and give it a try
Honorable Mention*: I think Warcaster Neo Mechanika has potential.
* HM since I already listed 5 😊
I need to check that one out too!
I'm curious as to what you think of Wild West Exodus? I don't encounter it very often, but I think Warcradle Studios did a decent job of it and I particularly like the 17th century alt-timeline and the steam punk cowboys
I have not had a chance to check it out, but I've heard good things and it sounds really cool. I do like steampunk cowboys and alt history...
Malifaux, Infinity, Moonstone, Bushido, Batman miniatures game, Arena Rex, SAGA.... And guild ball rip :(
Good choices!
Mordheim for me. Good tactical rules and an excellent campaign system.
I've heard many good things!
I love that you didn't put any games workshop skirmish money grabs on the list, they usually dominate these kind of lists while being pretty bland skirmish games.
I used to love Malifaux while I played it, but my favorite is Guild Ball by far. Too bad SFG abandoned it for board games, it was a really special game.
I call it like I see it :)
I missed Guild Ball but I know a lot of Mali-folks speak very highly of it
Guildball is a masterpiece, instant fun and very deep
@@jeancouscous I've heard that, but I kinda missed the boat on it. Are you still playing it since it's been discontinued?
I suppose Mordheim is dead.
I’d love for you to do a short video of the Slave 2 Gaming skirmish game called Grim Fantasy.
It has some unique ways to play skirmish
I was not familiar, I will check it out!
1. I HATE the ARO system in Infinity. It’s the sole reason I don’t play it. Lol. Which is a shame, because the rest of the game is cool.
2. Bushido has fast become my favourite skirmish game of all time. I love the design space and how deep the interactions can go. It’s easily the most tactical game I’ve played. And it’s super easy and intuitive to learn.
3. I like malifaux, but find it overly complex (like infinity). There’s also a fuckload of bookkeeping you have to do around conditions, which gets monotonous for some factions. Also, miniature assembly can be a royal pain in the ass :/
If you haven't checked out malifaux 3e, they did reduce the conditions considerably. It's still really complex though lol
I need to get back into Bushido, I think I have a friend who I've worn down enough to give it a shot 🤞
My vote goes to Batman Miniature Game by Knight Models
Thats one that I don't know too much about, the models look amazing though
@@DefectiveDice I prefer it to MCP. I feel the theme is more present. The game balance is good due to not having a lot of models and each faction bend the rules in different way.
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Check out pulp alley
Will do!
Star Wars Miniatures
You'll rarely lose a game off malifaeux and think it was luck
So I have to finally admit I'm bad... Thanks
There is still some luck lol
Pulp Alley is as good or better...
Warcry
I've been trying to get a game of it in, I've heard really good things
infinity has the most shit models I ever built, in modern times the only metal models worse are the bolt actions remnants that aren't plastic yet, that was the biggest reason for me to completely abandon that game
Malifaux
Summoners from neverrealm industry
Freebooters Fate
Infinity
And... Hmm... i don't know
Ohh Bushido.
Some good ones there. I remember hearing good things about Freebooters Fate, I have to check it out again.
Warcry didn’t make the list?
Kill Team didn’t make the list?
Necromunda didn’t make it?
Mordheim didn’t make the list?!
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Actually I just haven't had a chance to play any of them. I hear warcry is great though! Which do you recommend?
@@DefectiveDice
Highly recommend Warcry. It’s fast paced, easy to learn, hard to master. Extremely well balanced, especially after the balance patch thingy they just released a few days ago. So we’ll balanced though (with matched play rules) that most games I’ve played constantly teeter back and forth between feeling like I’m definitely going to win, then definitely going to lose, back and forth throughout each initiative phase for the entirety of the game. 😆 I’ve even had a decent amount of matches go into overtime because the set ending point came during a “draw” in points. Additionally, every move you make often feels like it’s both good and bad at the same time. All that to say that it feels very balanced. It’s really fun though, even my non-gamer wife seems to like playing it. Earlier this month attended a local tournament with 26 attendees and it was suuuper fun. Like most other skirmish games, it’s also quite easy to use proxy models, so if you’ve already got lots of other minis you can try it for free because GW (shockingly) posted all the faction cards and the base rulebook online for free in PDF form when second edition dropped.
Warcry is a great game, the first skirmish I played indeed. Is good to hear something not made by GW.
Just one guy's opinion: you shouldn't use diversity as a selling point. It's gross. "Look, we have some browns... and WOMEN!" Don't get me wrong, it is a good thing, but it is something that should go without saying, and only be a bad thing if it isn't the case. It's like someone going around bragging about having black friends; you should, but also it shouldn't be a big deal, and if you are making it a big deal, it makes it seem like you aren't doing it because it is normal/right, you are instead doing it for show/praise. Really rubs me the wrong way, when people brag about diversity like that, especially a company trying to sell a product- just comes off as gross. Bad sales tactic; again, not diversity itself, but bragging about it. Don't try to capitalize on what should just be normal morality.
I'm not sure if this is meant in response to myself, or any of the companies here, or just a general comment, but...
For myself, I certainly didn't mean to say that diversity should be a selling point. In fact I didn't even mean for this video to be about selling the sales, I was just explaining why I like these games. A big part of the appeal of some of these games was the inclusion, which is sadly something that is often conspicuously lacking in this hobby
For the purposes of the company, I don't think any of these companies have ever marketed any of their games as being about diversity. I don't even think any of them have commented on it (I could be wrong). If I implied that they did then that's on me, but again the purpose of what I said was simply that these are features in the game that I like
And if it was just a general comment, then I agree entirely. That would be gross. Including different types of characters and perspectives into games makes the games better, and doing it just for the clout is counterproductive.
Exactly. Diversity Equity Inclusion is the most insulting policy in use today. Not only to Americans of European descent but to all minorities pandered to.
In video you said about one game that it has lot of women that is what is he talking about (you said it about malifaux)
Yeah, I can see the point. It shouldn't be a selling point but between an ever diversifying community and a hobby that has for a very long time been very uninclusive and alienating between shitty people and some realy gross sculpts of fem presenting figures for now at least it will be.
@@scottperkins5038you nailed it. Deliberately broad or nontraditional representation can initiate a more inclusive player base down the road. Among people looking for a game they more identify with, this can be a selling point, until there's a more diverse offering.
Confrontation 3.5 is the best
Oo I don't think I've heard that one much. I'll have to check it out!
Confrontation was awesome, excellent models and interesting rules along with a great magazine. I really think they allowed companies to see they could compete with GW who had a complete stranglehold on the market at the time. I don't think we would have such a diverse and interesting options to play if it wasn't for Confrontation (well GW also helped by killing the Old World and abandoning 40k balance in the deluded stage of "we're just a model company" phase).