The Belief It Or Not Podcast: Ep. 142 - Christians and MLMs
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- čas přidán 23. 09. 2023
- This ones is all about why Christians join MLMs
As always we are not experts, we just google this stuff.
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When I was a Christian, I was watching "It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown!" and one day, a particular scene made me think more seriously about my religion.
It was the scene when Linus says, "Oops, I meant _when_ he comes! I'm doomed! One little slip-up like that can cause the Great Pumpkin to pass you by..."
I remember thinking, "That poor fool! He believes in a fictional creature and when it inevitably doesn't grant his wishes, he's just going to say he didn't believe hard enough. Because conveniently, if it doesn't show up, he must've did something wrong..."
Then I thought, "Wait a minute, that sounds a lot like Christianity..."
Charlie Brown played a surprisingly big role in my deconversion.
Charlie Brown ftw
I got a gift basket from a cancer charity and it had a ton of MLM products with "tips on starting a home business" I was disgusted
For just a second, I thought you said 'I was disguised'...
That's awful, feels so predatory. Hope you are doing ok
@@jannettb7930 HaHAHaHa Awesome
@@zeldamorgan9260 I'm actually not doing well that's the gross part it was for parents who are dying of cancer so the MLMs who "donated" to it were being even more predatory in their hunt for desperate single parents to take advantage of, although don't worry I have a good outlook and have really gone far out of my way to have fun :D I live as a clown and my kid made it to adulthood and I'm still here :D
"it's better to bankrupt your marriage than bankrupt your bank account" 🙌🏻🙌🏻 preach 😊
Oh haha 😄
Tupperware went legit. They started off as an MLM, but now they don't do that anymore and sell directly to companies.
The first makeup I’ve ever gotten was Mary Kay back in high school, only because my mom’s coworker was apart of it. I rarely used it due to not really liking the makeup, but years later when I actually learned about the business model, I became horrified by it.
On the topic of “you’re a worthless piece of poo”, I found it remarkable that the Barbies in Barbieland would accept compliments and awards with “thank you” and “I worked really hard so I deserve this”, contrasted with Kendom and Barbies giving Ken credit for Barbie’s accomplishments.
People taking credit for their own hard work vs giving it to God/patriarchy.
Also, the 3 main Kens in the Barbie movie are from Canada 💕 and they slayed.
It's a little sad that some people though the Barbie accepting the award was shallow or self centered, because it should be okay to acknowledge your own hard work with the same happiness as you would a good friend or loved one!
its supposed to be a trick that prevents you from getting a big head but if we're being real if you have a big ego you were probably born like that
Deconversion was my Bible Escape Room.
The one lady I went to high school with who is super evangelical sold the following things:
1. Essential oils
2. Drinkable mud
3. NFTs
4. Tupperware
5. Karatbars (some gold thing)
6. Cosmetic products from the Dead Sea
She’s such a smart lady. I don’t get why she fell for so many. And man she must have lost so much money of late.
Idk somehow the drinkable mud is somehow the most reasonable. Many cultures consume clay and earth n stuff. Kind of like an ad hoc daily vitamin.
...anyway aside from that insight, it's pretty horrific what mlms do to smart and lovely people
Oh and from what I recall someone pointed out to her that the drinkable mud was an MLM and she got so upset.
@@MK-gv1wd such a bummer 😔
On my Instagram business page i frequently get requests for NFT collectors.
When your mindset is to have strong faith in an invisible, intangible concept that never actually directly does anything with yuo to let you know it exists or not, and you trust your religious leaders to just know everything, it sadly makes you prime fodder for scams umpteen times.
We call MLM's in Utah.. Mormons losing money
😂
Yep😄😃😀
As I deconstruct I constantly think about my time as a full blown hyper charismatic worship leader (with my husband) along with being a “boss babe” in It Works. It all ended when I had to have an emergency c section due to my daughter dying in my womb and I was in organ failure. My upline messaged me to keep posting about “my experience” so my social media would skyrocket/more sales and my pastor kept telling my husband and me that our “amazing testimony” of living through this TRAUMA will be so good to share when we have our first Sunday back(and share on social media to bring lost souls through the church doors). I was in survival mode for myself and my daughter and my husband literally almost lost us (in his words: “my world”). We began questioning and lining up how flipping manipulative it all was. All of it. My daughter was in the NICU for two months and was born at 1 and a half pounds. She’s a freaking rockstar at 5 years old now and we are free from that church and religion of manipulation.
The Bible got one thing right: the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil.
Good job getting the quote right
Does that explain all the multimillionaire church leaders?
@@JayMaverickYes since those people are pretty blatant evildoers.
2:05 "Were you a yoga *player?!"* Lol!!🤭The adorable lilt of confusion in his voice....I can't make fun of him *now* lol!😆
@@Mar-dk3mpOk. Happy Sunday! 😆
I’m happy to be such a failure that I didn’t even get accepted when I applied for MLMs
The lord was lookin out for ya 😏
It was over 50 years ago when I was in college, I had my first discussion with a Libertarian, Ayn Rand devotee. I kept going back to the Spaceship Earth analogy/wise stewardship. "There are natural iimits. There is only so much stuff." And he kept telling me that resources are limitless, bound only by our ingenuity, hard work, and economic freedom. Then I served a mission in Germany, and there was way too much Dale Carnegie, How to Win Friends and Influence People. While watching this video, it suddenly occurred to me that MLMs are the bastard child of libertarian economics and evangelical philosophy. Everyone is a temporarily embarrassed millionaire.
Damien I am HERE for the pre-2000s Simpsons and Arthur references being dropped in at any and every opportunity
Simpsons 😁
My mom (like many) was into Tupperware and Avon. We had boxes of the stuff lying all over the house. And I had a friend who was into Melaleuca, who kept pushing me to buy stuff, until I drew a boundary. Like most cults people get sucked into a dream of doing better and it rarely works out.
I've had so many family members that have fallen into the MLM trap and they really just wanted to make ends meet. These companies prey on poor women and offer them a get rich quick option that they desperately want to be true so they can get out of really tough financial predicaments. Unfortunately, it's not just stay at home moms who are bored that fall for these scams and they have devastating outcomes for those who really need the money the most.
I remember when I used to be on Facebook, I had religious cousins or friends from High School that were religious often were involved with MLMs and I did get quite a few messages trying to get me into MLMs.
I had a friend go all Mormon, and I found out via his Fbook page. I hadn't heard from them for a few months when some mutual friends told me I "gotta check out [their] page! It's crazy!" - so I did, and I thought it was a joke cos it was just so... extra. (Like another friend who had the Subaru logo tattooed on his pec, full colour. So extra! Not in a good way. Super blown out, too.) But sadly, it was no joke; that once-agnostic friend had settled on heccn _Mormonism,_ of all the Jesus religions to pick. And became so... annoying? Naturally, they felt like they'd got everything figured out, but somehow ⛬ moved on from ig their "secular" past, nvm the religious & agnostic friends among us. (Though tbf not Mormon cos... no offence, but wut.) They were already "seriously" dating a cryptid (heh inside joke) & apparently, so heard on the grapevine, they were soon married - all within months after the "rebirth". That friend was just gone - made it clear with deafening silence that I & others were solidly a part of "the past" - but I do hope it went well for them. Even though they dropped us like that, and all cos they picked a crappy neo-religion.
At least our faith-battling minister friend was cool. He went to seminary school, & it did shut down the sillier arguments that often went to "how do _you_ know?!" Like that _Xmas_ is not "erasing Christ"; it's literally just shorthand for _Christmas,_ even/especially for religious students. He said, "You have no idea how much it helped in our note-taking to just put 'X' in place of every time it says 'Christ'! Also, 'GOD' isn't capitalised like that anymore; it's just 'God' now." We may have played silly with the last bit & bugged him with questions like, "So it's just 'god' now? OK! god it is!" (He clearly meant "GOD" is now written as "God".) That one annoyed him, cos we were annoying about it. "You _know_ what I mean! Fine, you know why? I went to seminary school!"
Anyway. There's nothing like reconnecting with an old friend reaching out to you on Fbook. And there's nothing like when you realise they never gave a hoot and just wanted your money &/or soul for their crappy MLM &/or religion.
Living in Utah, one would almost think that one of the Ms would stand for Mormon.
I marinated in that Amway shit for years as a kid. I remember going to a service at the TD Garden in Boston.
All we got out of that pyramid scheme was motivational tapes by the dozens (that nobody in the family listened to), and arguments among family members that nearly tore us apart.
this channel is 1 of like 7 reasons I'm still on this rock
I was always suspicious of MLMs. When I actually started learning how deeply problematic they are I was so grateful that I didn't get sucked in. And as always, your Bible study segment is just beautiful and fulfilling.
Ok, I'm just a few minutes in, but I have to preemptively chime in. It's apparent to me that the connection between religious beliefs, MLM's, and being a woman are overwhelming. My mother was an evangelical born again xtian, and so was my ex-wife. My mother did Rubbermaid (yes, they were an MLM before going retail). Avon, Jafra, Amway, and Party Lite Candles. My ex-wife did Princess House Crystal, Herbalife, Melaluca, and Party Lite. They both "invested" thousands of dollars in these ventures only to lose it all and end up with garages and storage areas packed with useless product. The connection of both of them also "investing" thousands in "seed faith" money to tv evangelists to end up with no financial return, but stacks of unread religious literature also. This is so freaking wild. I wonder why men are not as vulnerable to these scams?
Edit: Oh, I forgot Mary Kay. My wife was obsessed with getting the pink Cadillac. I was like, "Why would you want to drive a big ass Pepto Bismol bottle?"
I think an aspect might be the 'people pleaser' in them (being recruited by a Queen Bee/ -authority- figure) as well as the feeling of belonging or community to someone who may feel lonely. The alleged money or perks are often secondary
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Good point. I think it's a combination of those things and more that maybe should be studied in a controlled environment by skilled psychological professionals.
@@lagodifuoco313I do think this business model was also 'grandfathered' in. Back when many families only had one car, I can see the appeal of wanting to earn extra money when being at home with the kids, options were more scarce
I think it is also due to the evangelical world's pressure (mileage varies between different denominations) to be a stay-at-home mom and avoid higher education. One-income with multiple kids isn't necessarily a feasible financial plan in the current economy. The MLMs capitalize on that desire to stay home with kids by pitching this as the perfect bridge between bringing in extra income and being a "godly" mother.
I think it's because men are expected and supported to get real jobs with real money outputs, and to handle and thus understandfamily finances. Women deprived of the training (I once got resume help from someone who thought my partner's mattered more because he was the man.) And opportunity ie. Housewives, are more likely to look into MLMs as ways around the restrictions or easier ways they can manage. Then surprise, the person not taught about finance and business falls into a scam.
ah thanks for posting these videos guys! they’ve genuinely been helping with my insomnia! ❤
also, you chose a very interesting topic! the Christian -> MLM community is weirdly fascinating haha
That Young Living song was weaponized cringe. The playback alone, yeesh! I don’t believe for a minute that any of the voices singing belonged to the people on stage.
A Christian friend of mine started selling "Mom's Bake at home Pizza" which meant when you rang them up they would deliver a COLD pizza which one heats up in their OWN oven! I was lke , why not just order a hot pizza from Dominos?
To be fair, the largely convincing counterargument to your point is that then you would have a hot pizza from Domino's in your house.
@@dingdongismI feel attacked 😂
TBH that sounds like a good business model. You don't need the cooking to be covered, so much as the shopping for ingredients and the prep. It's not hard to pop a pre-made pizza in the oven, but delivery of a cooked one is fraught with extra liabilities.
@@skepticusmaximus184 I figured people could 'crisp' it to their liking, and also they know it'll be *really* hot 🔥 lol now I want to order one
Or a frozen one from supermarket, some of those are so good and very cheap
Fun additional statistic on cops and income, I work at a car lot and one of top repossession groups are cops because they feel like they aren't obligated to make their payments.
I have one of my brothers (a Conspiracy Theorist) and a sister-in-law who ALWAYS fall for MLMS. My brother was trying to sell some sort of car repair insurance. My sister-in-law? Mary Kay, and some sort of bag company. I tried to sell Mary Kay...lost interest. Signed up for the company selling bags. At that time, I was truly done with being involved with MLMS. Well, when finally told her that I don't do MLMs anymore, she got mad at me. I bought a couple of bags from her and found out that they were cheaply made. Anyway, thanks for sharing.
Everything else is valid BUT: MLMs, as you’ve noted, target SAH moms, and a lot with smaller kids. Many WAH jobs require at minimum silence while you work, but almost all require that kids are not present/watched by someone else while you work. Plus, you have dedicated hours of on-camera training, and some require you to be on camera while you work. MLMs allow more flexibility in schedules and having kids present, which is why so many moms gravitate toward them. It’s really not as simple as getting a headset. If it were, sooo many more would be doing that.
Saying from experience.
*edit to say, experience from WAH, not MLMs
Yeah my fam has long history with mlm and I hate it they don't miss a chance to try to sell you something even at the worst possible time
This just reminds me of a joke from christian comedian Mark Lowry's album remotely controlled. It was a mock news interview with a woman talking about Mark:
"Posing as a Jehovah's Witness selling Amway, he barged his way into my living room, set up his CD table, and refused to leave before I'd bought one of everything... Lock your doors America!"
Avon was great. "Was" being key. Good products, women got independence via money they earned themselves, opportunities to mingle with the outside world.
How lovely things can turn into poison over time. What a crime.
Capitalism tends to have that effect on everything it touches.
@@hannahbrennan2131it's a double edge sword, 'crony' capitalism is what's evil because the same people now give each other all the top positions. They fleece all the spoils from the workers who actually earn the profits 😔 greed knows no limit
Avon was never great. It was a pyramid scheme from the beginning. Always a scam. Always predatory and exploitative. It’s an unsustainable business model that will never work, except for the fraudsters at the top of pyramid making millions.
The Canadian sense of humour is great...ie the bible study with prayer is hilarious
2:05 "Were you a yoga player?" XD
I just watched the essential oil video. OMG. The bobble head guys made me laugh. So what narcotic do these oils contain?
I think you missed the purpose of the first step of the 12 steps. (I'm not in 12-step myself, and when I needed support, I specifically created a group that did not use the 12-step model, so this is not coming from a true believer in 12-step.) It was originally for alcoholics who are usually using alcohol as a way of controlling their emotions and often also believe they can control their consumption of alcohol. This does not work well for most alcoholics. They had to "admit they were powerless over alcohol" (which in other groups is made into "powerless over their addiction" and "powerless over the abuse"). I agree that the wording can be unfortunate, and is especially bad for people who are already too submissive. (Note that this is not the original target of AA -- back in the day, they tended to be more outwardly abusive alcoholics rather than submissive codependents.) In any case, the intention, the meaning, of the 12 steps, especially the first, is that they have to stop using the addiction or other avoidance behavior as a way of trying to control their emotions.
I often see the 1st step as similar in spirit to "the Tao that can be known is not the Tao" in Taoism. It's to let go of the driving surface-consciousness part of the mind and allow deeper parts of the self, including the emotions they're avoiding with the addictive behavior, to come up. It's to get past the arrogance that makes people unable and unwilling to get help. They had to admit that they were powerless over their addiction and ask for help. Originally they said "from God"; then they changed that to "from a higher power"; and I think a lot of people now translate that again to mean, as I am saying, "from submerged parts of their self." It's not about just wallowing in shame and being pathetic.
I think another big reason there’s so much membership overlap between high control religions and mlms is because when you’re in one of these churches, you outsource character judgements to the church. I grew up in a strict religious household and saw this all the time. If you see someone in church a lot, you just take it for granted that they’re a good person and wouldn’t try to take advantage of you. If someone seems smart in Bible study and can quote a lot of scripture off the dome, then they’re a smart person and they wouldn’t fall for a scam. If someone has a lot of nice clothes to wear to church or is able to donate a lot of money to the church, then you just assume that they’re financially stable. The big one that I see all the time with my family members is assuming that someone is doing things right if they’ve been married for a long time and have a lot of kids. My parents literally always vote for the Republican with the most kids, cos if they’ve got that many kids, they’re a good person. So those red flags that tell most people “this person is shady and you don’t wanna go into business with them” just don’t register. There’s no reason to distrust the woman who says she made a lot of money selling essential oils because she’s part of the in group and she wears pretty dresses, so she must be telling you the truth that she’s rich. There’s no reason to distrust the person who says getting into an mlm was good for their marriage cos they have so many children that their marriage must be doing great. Mlms take advantage of that same church naïveté that makes people leave their kids with creepy youth pastors or makes people handwave away credible accuasations of people mismanaging church resources.
I had been pulled in to the world of MLM's for a bit, while i needed some extra income on the side of my job. It was horrible and ended up sinking more money in to it then i was making and soon gave the extra items i had back to the rep who had recuted me and got a real second job. I have known many people over the years who got trapped in working for one of the many MLM's there are out there and have tried selling to me for years, some work for multiple hopping to make a living. The only people who make it big are those at the top spots on the pyramid.
💖 to Trevor for staying on track with the teetolal. (And 💖 to Damien for also being awesome!) And you're right: you're strong, and stronger than you think. I'm so glad that you're safely out of & away from the Church, and that pernicious mindset y'all mentioned of having to take yourself _down_ a peg and "accept" that you're nothing without God (and He gets all the credit for your wins, but bad stuff is your own fault &/or Satan?!). As y'all said, it's so prevalent in religion, especially the Xtian Church, and a cornerstone for most AA programs, but it's self-defeating and harmful. Plus, a lot of people who do AA/NA basically become members of the [X] Anonymous "Church", set up to fail and to feel such more guilt for any misstep along the way, but also drawn to coming back again & again. It's no wonder that so many ex-addicts become "born-again" Christians, notably those who have been in prison c/o _heavy_ proselytising (on top of all the other indignities prisoners are faced with).
And I have to note, on the topic of prisons: the USA contains 5% of the world's population, yet it boasts 20% of the world's prison population. That's the highest in the entire world, per capita & otherwise, more than any other country, more than "Big C" (where over a BILLION people live!) "We're number 1!" they love to brag. ...I know that this a Canadian podcast, but I also know that statistically many USians are watching, and also, this isn't just a US problem; it's a worldwide problem, and should be known worldwide. Colonialism's tentacles still creep the planet to this day.
Thanks for the heart! Y'all are awesome. :)
Keep up the good work my dudes!
30:10 "You know the preacher likes the cold, he knows I'm gonna stay."
California Dreamin'
Great video today! Extra points for the AARDVARK reference.
You'll find a lot of suckers in your average church. MLM target rich environment
What does MLM mean?
@hackman669 multi level marketing
@@hackman669Multi-level marketing. It’s basically a quasi-legal form of a pyramid scheme.
@@hackman669multi level marketing
Yo shout out to the comfy yoga pants! Idgaf what people think, they cradle everything nicely.
What's funny is, you say Amway tries to pander to Christians, but I used to sing a song in church called "Not For Sale" that mentions a preacher selling out and selling Amway. XD
i need advice from my fellow non believers. my extremely religious father is coming to visit me and im scared about what he'll do or say if he finds out im agnostic atheist . any input would be gratefully appreciated.
Reddit has some resources and a active community for discussion at r atheism
Why would he find out about it?
@@lhprx4 I don't go to church and I have skulls in my house. I smoke and drink. Every time we're on the phone he asks if I read the bible to my kids and I just change the subject but it's getting harder
TBH the start of that YL song is actually decent, musically speaking. But I couldn't keep a straight face once the boys started playing and singing.
I was part of a financial MLM called WFG or world financial group. There are also in Canada so watch out for about six or seven months. I was a producer and recruiter early on, so I was being pushed to be what they called the rabbit of the group. But because I’d have enough experience with toxic relationships and the church, I quickly spotted the gaslighting when they finally allowed the veil to come down. The way they sell these conferences is your business won’t go anywhere unless you’re there. Of course I didn’t believe that and it was Covid, so it was all online. But yeah, they push conferences and then.
Amway is run by the DeVos family, evangelical promoters of school choice and other problematic doctrines. Betsy DeVos was secretary of education under 45. Not to mention her problematic brother, Erik Prince, America’s Prigozhin and founder of Blackwater.
Go ahead and don’t belief it, I promise that Christ believes in you; not one will ever know you better than HIM who begat you.
Love You guys!
Always hoping goodness and peace for you and your families in love through Christ
Hoooooly shiit that young living video. I watched way too much of that video (its like a car crash!) and you did not prepare me for the two guys getting up and singing, too. The comments on there are a hilarious combination though.
Quality content 🙌
Omg this topic!!! 👏 👏 👏
37:12 i have had that moment when im conversing with someone and everytime i make a point my brain finds a way to see the nuance in said comment so i add the nuance to the statement i had juat made. Then the person im conversing with DIDN'T need all that extra data set cuz they aggreed with you before the added info.
Next thing that comes out is either a music lyric or a line of dialogue from a movie.
It took years to understand why people i interacted with would reply in such a manner. I thought it was like a dis on my thought process.
Since its yall and im out of thr equation i understand why a friend would response with some😢so off the wall its like they were not listening too and intentionally ignored you.....
I dont know how to be good to myself
Down with Webster went to my high school and wow haven't thought about them in ages.
I'm sitting here listening to this and getting triggered 😂 I realize why I turned down so many things b.c church was enough of a MLM!! The more y'all brought up examples of what these MLMs do the more triggered I got!! For church I've done these productions which I learned a lot on HOW to put together the productions...which helped me develop as a professional...thts a bit different..but this is like: OMG...I can't!!😫😫😫😫 If this don't deconstruct folks, nothing will!!!😫😫😫😫
Simpin for the lord ….I am hollering 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
now that's entertainment
The way you're talking about how religion is used by a lot of people and takes away from their own autonomy and also like, I would say "overdoing" "humility" by acknowledging we're all limited in our own ways it feels like a really gross perversion of or replacement for actual community healing and support. Community care is so lacking in our culture it's like people will instead turn toward some fictionalized idea of a "higher power" (and possibly whatever community they can get from their church) because they don't actually have other people to turn to who will help them heal.
God, my mormon mom constantly buys and preaches about essential oils and doterra products. But because of our rocky past and finally talking, i dont have the heart to tell her its bullshit.
I watched the video of the one, and I honestly think the three singers were lip sinking, her voice was too good, that takes years of training, and the guy kept moving away from their mikes, I could be wrong, but I think it was fake.
these stay at home moms would be better off learning a craft than giving their time and energy to a recuitment machine
Best entro ever.😁
I believe for the last church it is very much a membership fee. It's a social club, a really fkn weird one.
Canadian kels also has a CZcams channel now but I can't recall if it's the same name as her TT
Edit: her channel is also called Canadian kels
Amway made the money from all the motivational tapes they sold to new recruits not the products.
14:54 patrons eating good
Yoga player😂
Hey sexy lady yoga prayer!!joking
❤Jesus power 😢 warning it is intense.❤ Last 30 minutes
Best to relax and shut yr eyes
20:34 Who even knows what really constitutes an "affair". It's been that long since I had sex, I forget who's supposed to get tied up.
What movie did you steal this line from? I recognize it, but can’t place it.
@@weezieyo I can't remember.
💕💕💕💕🍿☕
Wait…AA is Christian based???
Who says the algorithm got no sense of humor. Chester m yda ads on your mlm/xtianity/snake oil intersection show.
Who is going to be 666 in the comments. 😂
Saying "essential oils are useless" is basically saying the plant that the oil is from is useless too.
Y'all need a Black person on this show desperately.
Y'all sometimes just be saying anything.
Essential oils are essentially useless. I'm sorry you've been conned
love that you mentioned canadian kels ! I love her tiktoks
"I am the savior in the brothel
I'm the saint trading in souls
Christ on a Harley at full throttle
Bottled angel to be sold
I hide in corners of the church
The shadowed pieces of the cross
The flock dressed in their Sunday clothes
I seek to cleanse them with them off
I hold the keys to temp and spit
I know the secrets they don't tell
I bleed stigmata in the pit
I find the humor deep in hell
I am tomorrow without fear
I am the past you will regret
I make you think the end is near
Cause I know how it gets you wet
I am what frightens you to sleep
I am the only hope you've got
Scream the praise your hole to keep
Deliver you from all this rot
And as the curtains close this chapter
As the century winds down
Maybe you'll learn from all my laughter
Learn to swim or fucking drown
Cause maybe this is what it takes
Perhaps you'll learn from my mistakes
The contradiction that makes sense
Nail me up this time I won't flinch
I crawl the nightlife as I bless
I pay the whores double their price
I scurry gladly through this mess
I am the artificial light
I bring the hope to those who bet
Their lives for fame and fortunes tongue
I am the shit that you inject
I'm beautiful, rich, smart, and hung
I lie
I cry
I lead astray
I have control over your fate
I live for getting in the way
I love to taunt and agitate
I'll never stop
I'll never change, eternally
I still exist
I'm sick and sexually deranged
Still when I'm gone
I'm always missed
I live in blood sweat tears and come
I'm made of sickness made of death
I am the leach that sucks you numb
I am the pussy on your breath
I am the lines the information
The redemption in the wire
The thought behind the masturbation
I'm the energy the fire
I am what frightens you to sleep
I am the only hope you've got
Scream the praise your hole to keep
Deliver you from all this rot
And as the curtains close this chapter
As the century winds down
Maybe you'll learn from all my laughter
Learn to swim or fucking drown
Cause maybe this is what it takes
Perhaps you'll learn from my mistakes
The contradiction that makes sense
Nail me up this time I won't flinch"
Have fun with that. 😁
@@hackman669 This is a song called Technochrist by Luxt. Given the name of the song. I assume it's about a like a futuristic version of Christ judging humanity because these are human behaviors. probably sins. who knows. but it's an interesting song and I've thought about it multiple ways. could also be about an antichrist. it's open to interpretation. but it definitely has religious themes.