You really nailed it Mark. Starting with the 6 and fading into the 12 hammers the point home. I’m curious if any of your viewers ended up getting their first 12 string AFTER they found your channel. I did. I never had much luck with the 12-string probably because of being too impatient. Mark is a great player, teacher and motivator. His accessibility and how well this community interacts is a huge motivator. Five might be a little too many, but I never thought I’d have 1 and now I’m looking for another one. I believe it has made me a more well rounded player as well as a better listener. Awesome video!
Thanks so much Randy. I REALLY appreciate that. So many youtubers lose touch with their audience after they get a couple thousand subs. I work hard at maintaining relationships and I'm accessible to everybody. I think I'd have five times the subs if people knew all they have to do is email me any question, concern, lesson tip, whatever. I hope you have a great weekend. Mark
Watching Mark's channel finally convinced me to get a 12-string. I'm waiting for my Harley Benton that is on order since June but not expected by Thomann until September. I guess a lot of folk had been watching Mark's demo of the HB and decided to buy so they sold out!
@@truthstillmatters59 I didn’t have one but when I would try to play one back in the day I sounded horrible. After discovering Marks channel I really wanted to try again. My local guitar store had a few budget guitars that I just couldn’t get to sound good either. They set one up really nicely for me and that did the trick. I always knew a good setup was important but maybe more so on a 12-string.
I discovered the channel just the other week and already had a guild F512. I just order the Taylor 150e. Arrives this week. Been playing more 12 string since chatting with mark and watching his channel now.
LMAO. That's funny. Someone won guitar strings from me one time that didn't play guitar but didn't tell me. I gave them an amazon gift card instead. Have a great weekend!
I bought 12 string and I don't know how to play guitar...now I am self training my self but I find the action to be high at the 9 fret onwards...not doing any solos any time soon
Hey brother. I did that last minute and I think it took what would have been a very mediocre video and turned it into one of my best. we shall see what viewers at large think soon enough. I really appreciate the support. Take care. -Mark
According to Rick Beato, Boston actually used TWO 12-strings on the album . 12 strings sound like a harp, so gorgeous. So many strings to change.... : (
Hey Bob. Yes, I'm a huge Beato fan (he lives about 30 minutes from me) and I've been following him since he had about 150k subs and was doing mostly jazz lessons. The two WMTSG's on Boston are two of my favs. I think my all time favorite is Ramble On. He was so into that one. Thanks so much for checking out the video and supporting the channel. I really do appreciate it. I hope you have a great weekend. -Mark
@@8MinuteAxe well, you said you had 5 with 2 more on the way - that leaves two more for the Christmas wishlist…. maybe Santa subscribes to your channel ;-)
Of course! 😁 I would say the answer is a resounding YES! Now the real test, like you mentioned in the video, would be to hear songs that weren't originally on the 12 string ans see how they sound. Peep up the amazing work and rock on! 🎸
Thanks so much for taking time to catch the chat today. The morphing the 6 into the 12 was originally done just to keep the running time down. I accidently stumbled on the best part of the video.
Hey again Randy. Let's see here #1 Standard #2 Eb Tuning #3 Drop D #4 Open G #5 Open E #6 Open D #7 1 step down #8 Leo Kottke tuning for Vaseline Machine Gun (I currently have heavy strings on the Takamine to play that one)!
Randy. I know. I even had to turn the 12 string down in the mix because the disparity was TOO MUCH. And all of that is straight out of those little condenser mics that literally snap onto the Zoom recorder. Have a great weekend. Thanks so much for all of your time and support. -Mark
Thanks so much Anthony. The morphing the 6 into the 12 was a last minute thing and I think it really brought the video over the top. Have a great weekend and take care. -Mark
Without a doubt every guitarist should have a 12 string. You clearly demonstrated the magical sound created by a 12 string. Since getting my 12 string I play it 90 percent of the time over my 6 string. This was such a great concept for a video. Keep them coming. Each one is better than the last.
Hey Michael. Thanks so much. The tying the two parts together was a last minute idea to shorten it. Once I did that I feel like I stumbled into one of my best videos. We shall see. I really appreciate all of the support. Take care. Mark
Mark, your composition sounded much fuller and richer on the 12 string. The Beatles Hard Day's Night got us hooked on the 12 string sound, but within a year they were double tracking 6 strings, and we really didn't know the difference. I'd say having a really good acoustic 6 string is the most important place to start. After that, well, it's up to the individual player. It's very difficult to "unhear" More Than a Feeling, or other seminal 12 string songs. My answer is you "must have" a quality 6 string acoustic guitar. Do we really need a 12 string? Some people can live on peanut butter sandwiches; most people like more variety. Another great episode, Mark. Personally, I think you must have a 12 string. Your show just wouldn't be the same without one. Take care & Peace!
Hey Michael. Great example of the double sixes is Everybodys Trying to be my baby and Lewison boom says they double tracked the intro to 8 Days. Theres definitely a difference in tone. More Than a Feeling is a great example of that classic 12 string picking but I think I that's a double tracked 12. Just for fun I tried to play the six 5, 10, and 15ms apart. Doesnt work. Just phasing. Needs to be two separate guitars played, preferably in stereo. Thanks for all the support. Take care and stay safe. Mark
Definitely a big YES. I just love the sound of a 12 string guitar. Really enjoyed this video ,your song gave me juice bumps. You rock. ❤🎸🧘♀️🕊 Peace and Much Love.
Hey Robert. If you just started playing, I would recommend that you get 6 good months under your belt and then consider a 12-string. Let's face it, learning to play guitar can be frustrating at times and anything you can do to mitigate the frustration is a step in the right direction. The 12-string requires more hand strength and more accuracy both with the picking hand and the fretting hand. I've been teaching for over 25 years and I've distilled my thoughts on the best and most effective ways to practice in a few short videos. I encourage you to check them out: czcams.com/play/PLHs47cXmf1DQyWozhXvRjnpduWmIbBxqf.html. FYI, I don't sell anything so this is not any kind of sales pitch. Everything on the channel is 100% free. Thanks so much for checking out the video. Have a great evening and take care. Mark
I'm thinking about reaching out to a couple of the pedal companies to see of theu want me to test drive a 12 string simulator pedal. The effects on my two processors (one a high end dsp) suck. It's hard to reproduce the sound by just doubling and I'm not sure a dsp can just modulate half the strings. Maybe. Has anyone had any luck with getting a quality 1w string sound with a pedal. If so, email me or shoot a video and I'll put you on the channel. Thanks for the support! Mark
Hey Jonathan. Those open tunings are much more inspiring when you can just pick up the guitar and play rather than having to tune. Thanks so much for checking out the video. Have a great weekend! Mark
@@8MinuteAxe I played the Rain Song on my 12 string, that open tuning is amazing but it takes quite the effort to change the tuning to Gsus (if I remember correctly) and then back to standard tuning hehe. Have a good one too and thanks for your inspiring videos
Lmao. 45s were out by the time I was of record buying age but I did get Touch of Grey. I also bought reprints of Wildfire, and Key Largo. Thanks for the amazing support. Take care. Mark
For sure Carmello! Did you see my video THE SONG THAT MADE THE 12 STRING FAMOUS czcams.com/video/SfvYO9oPEv4/video.html where I say you have to draw a line in the sand before and after. I do love what bands did with the 12 in the 70s TOP 10 12 STRING SONGS OF THE 1970S! czcams.com/video/Zq2m9uAHXTc/video.html but yes, the Beatles defined so many things. Thanks so much for checking it out. I appreciate your time and your comment. I hope you have a great weekend. Take care and stay safe. -Mark
Loved it, Mark! Great job. I play a lot in Open D and Open G. Would love to see something in those tunings. I haven't done it yet, but you're convincing me that I need a 12-string! Thank you, sir!
The sound of every song is just SO much more full with the 12-string guitar. The way you played a part on the 6 and then went directly to the 12 was an excellent, and fair, way to compare songs on both. The 12-string is great for strumming and picking, as you said. The 12-string is without a peer for picking, and hearing the songs you did reminded me of how much I need to improve my picking.
Brilliant piece Mark. I found that it was like hearing my favourite songs in stereo for the first time after a lifetime of hearing them in mono - Incredible (and that was with just one earpiece in place!). Reinforcing what I already knew - I really love the sound of a 12 string and this video has spurred me to playing mine a lot more from now on! Nice job Mark (yet again!)
Thanks brother. I have to tell you, I originally did each part in full on both. Initially I just wanted to save time by cutting in but what started as a fairly run of the mill idea became what I think is one of my best. We will see if the views support it, but I really like the way this one flows. I did all of these in one take with the camera rolling. I wish I had warmed up my voice a bit before singing but otherwise I think I nailed most of them. Take care. Mark
Hey Matthew. I'm going to be reviewing the new Harley Benton Custom Line Jumbo 12 soon. $265 for a solid top. I haven't played one yet but the specs vs price are promising. I agree about Free Fallin. Thanks so much for all of your support. I really appreciate it so much. Take care. -Mark
Hey Marcus. Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment. I'm sincerely glad you enjoyed it. I hope you have a great week. Please take care and be well. Mark
I love your channel. The videos are inspiring and I love the comparison between the 6 string and 12 string. You're very talented and watching these videos brings great joy and a smile to my face. Thanks!
Hey brother. Thanks so much. I watched a documentary about the contamination at one of the treatment plants in Milwaukee that caused 31 deaths. I thought of you. LOL. Travel safely and thanks for making time to watch. Mark
Hey Brian. I appreciate you. The pleasure is all mine. I stumbled on the morphing one into the other last minute. I think it made what would have been a mediocre video one of my best. Take care and have a great weekend. -Mark
Hey Charles. I cut out the part where I said that the only person that needs 5 is someone with a 12 sting CZcams channel because I realized that I own about 15 6 stringers and for those that are exclusively 12 string slingers, 5 is 5 too few. Lol. Maybe if Vangoa and Harley Benton send me more I'll take a pic with them just to get close to your count. Lol. Thanks so much for checking out the video. Have a great day and take care. Mark
Ah, a southpaw. You have to be very intentional with your purchases. Even more impressive. I was always a minimalist. I toured in 2002 with a tele and a Taylor 410. We were a trio but the bass player had a guitar with him so I did have a backup. From 85 when I first started as a little kid until 2018 I owned maybe 8 guitars total. Something cracked in 2018 and I got gas full on. At least 30 guitars in the last 3 years. 🤯
Hey Jules. thanks so much. I really appreciate the positive feedback.. FYI, I'm doing my first live stream Saturday evening at 7pm EDT It's going to be a discussion about the best campfire songs and I'm hoping for a lot of audience participation. Here’s the link czcams.com/video/XtcqJMX-DSg/video.html. Either way, enjoy the rest of your week and take care. -Mark
Yep,.. found your channel a week or two ago,.. dusted off my old 1971 Martin Sigma, threw on some new strings and started hungering for a 12 string again, hahaha! Can't afford one but,.. maybe I can mic it and run it through my octave and get a similar result. We'll see. Still have a few of my old toys left in a box. It's been over 30 years but we'll see how it goes. Nearly like starting all over but not quite. Ha! Thanks for inspiring this old man, Mark. Appreciate you!
How are you? I really appreciate you taking the time to check out the video and I'm glad you got something out of it. Have a good weekend and take care. Mark
Amazing video. Other "guitar comparison" authors could learn a lot from how you did this video. Brief, back and forth, continuous snippets of various songs, without much jabbering, and use of CZcams chapters for easy navigation. On the negative side, you're hurting a lot of peoples wallets with how convincing this video is.
Mark, thanks for the video! Gives a great comparison of the sound quality between the 6 and 12 strings. I think there are certainly some songs that feel more full/complete with the 12 string. I wonder how different "Crazy on You" would sound between a 6 string and a 12 string? Looking forward to your next video!
Hey Dennis. Thanks so much for checking out the video and supporting the channel. Interesting that you brought up Crazy on You. I was going to do Rick Beatos 20 Acoustic Intros on the 12. I started recording them one by one. Got to Crazy on You and couldnt get it up to performance quality and speed on the 12 so the plan was to take a few days and get it down. The next day the video idea didnt seem nearly as brilliant as it did the day before so I scrapped it. I didnt have the Taylor 12 at the time. I bet I could do it on the Taylor. I may give it a go. Have a great weekend and take care. Mark
Man, I was just pondering this question after watching your Harley Benton RB 612CS review. As a Beatles and 60's rock fan, you convinced me to get it! I just ordered it today, thank you for your review and for your quality videos! Looking forward to that Harley Benton Black RB 612CS :)
Hey DJ. I realize with $300 guitars, quality control can sometimes be an issue which is why I didnt absolutely rave about mine but as a follow up to the review I will tell you regardless of price, I love it. It never goes out of tune and I find myself grabbing it much more than the Ric. When I did the Zeppelin electric 12 video, I recorded all but one song on the HB. It may not get that perfect ric chime, but it's more versatile. I hope you enjoy it as much as I have. Please take care and be well and thanks so much for supporting the channel. Mark
After hearing you play I don't think anyone can say they don't need one. there is such life in the 12 string and makes me wonder why I even started playing with a 6 string. Love these video's where you compare 6 and 12 string guitar with these great songs. keep it going, great stuff.
Hey Martha. Always great to hear from you. You are one of the original supports from back when I had about 800 subs I think. Your continued support means a lot. I'll probably post the original soon. Take care and have a great weekend (what's left of it). :) Mark
You cannot make a bad video!! (And I hope you never do lol), this video was great, man! The way you faded from the 6 into the 12 really shows the difference between the two. Personally, I love me a good ol' 6 string, it's a really versatile instrument and works like a charm in every genre and song, especially for a more intimate, James Taylor-later Beatles-Rain Song vibe, but the 12 string sure gives the 6 a run for its money! It makes any song stand out just enough to make it even cooler! Like you said, the 12 string is like bacon, everything's better with it!!
Hey brother. Trust me, I've made some bad videos. LOL. I really appreciate the support and encouragement. Don't forget first live stream Saturday evening at 7pm EDT It's going to be a discussion about the best campfire songs and I'm hoping for a lot of audience participation. Here’s the link czcams.com/video/XtcqJMX-DSg/video.html. Either way, have a great weekend and take care. -Mark
Hey William. It's great to hear from you. I really appreciate the continued support. I hope you're having a great weekend. Take care and be well . Mark
I agree that the 12-string has a much richer sound. You were obviously trying to push this, as your last original song has some reverb on your voice. But nonetheless, you sold me, and I just bought a 12-string. Thank you for this video.
My God... that was a great 7:27 minute ride! Excellent song choices and your 12 string technique is flawless! Fun video and I learned a lot. I can't even imagine the time you put in to play and produce it. Thanks, Mark!
Thanks for the video! It's good to have both 6 and 12. 12 sounds more full, with real shimmering chorus and octaver effects. But for some songs it can be too much in the mix, so you need 6 as well. On a 6 string guitar is easier to play solos with deep bends. I have both)
I agree that every guitarist should own a 12 string. I borrowed a 1970s Terada 12 string from a friend of mine and fell in love with it. It was made in the golden age of Japanese acoustics and has a beautifully low action and a great sound. I've been trying to persuade him to sell it to me as he doesn't play it, but it has sentimental value to him so I haven't managed to persuade him yet. Also very tempted to buy the Harley Benton electric you reviewed a while back. It sounded really nice and was exceptionally good value compared to the Ricky.
Closer to the Heart technically wasn't recorded on a 12, but it definitely doesn't sound right on a 6-string without the Nashville tuning overdub. So I guess that's fair. The others are like night and day though, especially Tom Petty. Some of them are unexpectedly hilarious like Wish You Were Here. Great video!
Nice catch. I believe Wild Horses and Free Fallin were 6 and Nashville as well. I did a video comparing the two using a mandocaster. Not a great head to head. I need to string another with Nashville. I believe I currently have 13 twelve string guitars so I think I can spare one. Thanks so much for your time and comment. I appreciate it. Have a great week and take care. Mark
@@8MinuteAxe Free Falling, no way! I should have known better though, touché! I'm currently shopping for a 12, and if I didn't think I needed one already, this vid showed me. Playing Supertramp on anything but a 12 is just wrong; big fan. Thank you for taking the time to make these, very useful. I'll check out more!
12 strings just sound so beautiful. I went to my local guitar shop a few weeks ago and played around with a 12 string acoustic. I have been thinking about that guitar ever since. It just sung, like I wasn't even playing it but just allowing it to make its incredable sound. Hopfully its still there once I get the money to buy it. I've never played a guitar I wanted more.
I think that everyone should at least try a 12 string, and whilst I've know some not as comfortable, and I wouldn't ever try to convince them otherwise, I could never play anything else. I've had an extraordinary difficult last couple of months and find myself grieving much deeper and harder than I've done in the past few years over the loss of my beloved stolen Martin acoustic 12 string; as whilst I've played since I was 11 (proper chords, but toyed with from 8yrs old), I've also had several lovely 6 strings in early years, Yamaha, Gibson, then a humming bird as my first 12 string. However, it was a Martin, a no frills 12string acoustic that I picked up on a whim in a shop, and from that 1st moment, when I first held it, it utterly grabbed my heart and soul...and as such, both broken, lost, irreparable, when it was stolen. Even attempts to play subsequent versions brands, Seagull to Gibson, I couldn't find the 'right' replacement for my Martin, so convinced it was due to just being sentimental ....until I picked up a friend's Martin 12 a couple years ago. Bittersweet is the only word to describe it, as it felt as if mine had come home, then absolutely devastated, as circumstances are as such, I will never be able to afford to replace it, albiet unless my GP or Cancer Clinic docs could write me a prescription to have one covered;) That said, I listened to you again last week, and as I tried out a Seagull 12 again, I now KNOW 100% that my loss, inability to play the same with other makes or brands, isn't just sentimental now; as it's not just the sound, but the physical FIT and ability to COMFORTABLY hold, play a Martin 12, for me this is very real. Whilst a comfort to finally know, as it stops my futile, frustrated attempts to replace my own with anything else, it's also sad to know ones future, with not just physical health, disability housebound, but more so, my PTSD and depression have always been managed with playing guitar and music all my life; yet now that will be forever after, quite empty. But it's important for you to know that you and other music utube peeps ARE also helpful, share hope, and inspiring; as living vicariously also brings rays of sunlight, even on our darkest days. So please, keep doing what you are doing, because you make a difference in many MORE ways than you may know. The lovely supportive commenters/subscribers are also a joy to read, a community of like minds is always a special place to be, and for some of us, preferable to tangible places, as they also play a big part in keeping our spirits up:) warmest regards as always to you and the forum peeps, cheers from the Weald, across the pond, Garden of England:) Ladybudd XXX
Hey Phillip. I really appreciate the comment. My last 3 videos have all performed exceptionally well out of the gate and then died. The 70s 12 string video was killing it for 6 days (3.1k views) with an 8% click through rate which is very high. Literally over the course of two hours it died. It's only gotten 46 views in the last nine days. I don't know what it is. I can't seem to break into the next level. Don't get me wrong. The fact that 1100 people viewed my new video in the first 24 hours is fantastic and I'm so grateful, but I just can't seem to get to that next level again. I know I will eventually but it's hard to be patient. Have a great weekend. -Mark
YES I NEED A 12 STRING, just like everyone that watches this video. Great job on the comparsion and great songs. Mark, this channel really motives me and makes me want to pick up my guitar. I thank you for that as others also do.
I’ve tried and given up too many times in the past. Because of your videos, I’m convinced that I need a 12 string. I’ve had a couple acoustic 12s that just weren’t good “players” (I’m blaming the guitars… hahaha). I’m giving it another go. Not giving up. Electric 12 in my future! Thanks, man! Great original, too!
Hey Brian. Thanks for weighing in. I hope you get a chance to watch the video. Either way though, I appreciate your comment. Take care and enjoy the rest of your weekend. -Mark
I love it, i just bought recently a 2nd lag tramontante 12 string guitar, even it is old and have a small belly bulge, but the sound is still good and resonate. I love it
Hey Bob. For sure.. Check out my video 25 classic 12 string riffs czcams.com/video/8Eteg4fqQ-E/video.html either way thanks for checking this one out Have a great day and take care. Mark
You really nailed it Mark. Starting with the 6 and fading into the 12 hammers the point home. I’m curious if any of your viewers ended up getting their first 12 string AFTER they found your channel. I did. I never had much luck with the 12-string probably because of being too impatient. Mark is a great player, teacher and motivator. His accessibility and how well this community interacts is a huge motivator. Five might be a little too many, but I never thought I’d have 1 and now I’m looking for another one. I believe it has made me a more well rounded player as well as a better listener. Awesome video!
Thanks so much Randy. I REALLY appreciate that. So many youtubers lose touch with their audience after they get a couple thousand subs. I work hard at maintaining relationships and I'm accessible to everybody. I think I'd have five times the subs if people knew all they have to do is email me any question, concern, lesson tip, whatever. I hope you have a great weekend. Mark
Watching Mark's channel finally convinced me to get a 12-string. I'm waiting for my Harley Benton that is on order since June but not expected by Thomann until September. I guess a lot of folk had been watching Mark's demo of the HB and decided to buy so they sold out!
I have had a Takamine 12-string I bought back in 1977 but hardly ever played it. I started playing it a lot after discovering Mark's channel.
@@truthstillmatters59 I didn’t have one but when I would try to play one back in the day I sounded horrible. After discovering Marks channel I really wanted to try again. My local guitar store had a few budget guitars that I just couldn’t get to sound good either. They set one up really nicely for me and that did the trick. I always knew a good setup was important but maybe more so on a 12-string.
I discovered the channel just the other week and already had a guild F512. I just order the Taylor 150e. Arrives this week. Been playing more 12 string since chatting with mark and watching his channel now.
Everyone needs a 12 string guitar!!!! Even if you dont play guitar!!!! Lol
LMAO. That's funny. Someone won guitar strings from me one time that didn't play guitar but didn't tell me. I gave them an amazon gift card instead. Have a great weekend!
I bought 12 string and I don't know how to play guitar...now I am self training my self but I find the action to be high at the 9 fret onwards...not doing any solos any time soon
Yes, just to look at it🤣
None of this songs played on the 6-string came close to their 12-string versions… so much more life in the the 12-String…
Thanks Mac. I agree. I think they just take off once the 12 is ...employed. LOL. Take care and have a great weekend. -mark
I definitely don't need a 12-string. I need TWO 12-string guitars tuned differently 😁
For sure Jeffry. I've gotten pretty good and pretty quick at tuning but it still sucks. Thanks for the support. Have a great weekend. Mark
I'm up to two...but I dream to be Yoda Mark.
Any song sounds better on a 12 string!!! Disagree? I dare you to try it and then see if you still disagree.
Hey Jesse. We just disagree....one of the great 12 string songs! LOL. Have a great weekend. I really appreciate the support. Take care. -Mark
@@8MinuteAxe Lol. That's pretty funny. The Dave Mason song from the 70s. You really know all the 12 string songs. Enjoyed your video.
Very cool how you merged the two types of guitars together and your original sounds much better on the 12-string
Hey brother. I did that last minute and I think it took what would have been a very mediocre video and turned it into one of my best. we shall see what viewers at large think soon enough. I really appreciate the support. Take care. -Mark
According to Rick Beato, Boston actually used TWO 12-strings on the album . 12 strings sound like a harp, so gorgeous. So many strings to change.... : (
Hey Bob. Yes, I'm a huge Beato fan (he lives about 30 minutes from me) and I've been following him since he had about 150k subs and was doing mostly jazz lessons. The two WMTSG's on Boston are two of my favs. I think my all time favorite is Ramble On. He was so into that one. Thanks so much for checking out the video and supporting the channel. I really do appreciate it. I hope you have a great weekend. -Mark
The answer: No! You need at least two (one in standard tuning, one tuned for the „Rain Song“)…
I just went through all of the possible tunings I've used and I actually need 9 total.
@@8MinuteAxe well, you said you had 5 with 2 more on the way - that leaves two more for the Christmas wishlist…. maybe Santa subscribes to your channel ;-)
What a silly question! 😎✌😜
Rhetorical question Steve....right? LOL. Thanks again for the AMAZING SUPPORT. I REALLY appreciate it. Have a great weekend my friend. -Mark
Of course! 😁 I would say the answer is a resounding YES! Now the real test, like you mentioned in the video, would be to hear songs that weren't originally on the 12 string ans see how they sound. Peep up the amazing work and rock on! 🎸
Yeah the 12 string really brings it to so many songs. Great playing and excellent examples of why it sounds so much better
Thanks so much for taking time to catch the chat today. The morphing the 6 into the 12 was originally done just to keep the running time down. I accidently stumbled on the best part of the video.
I need at least one.
Hey again Randy. Let's see here #1 Standard #2 Eb Tuning #3 Drop D #4 Open G #5 Open E #6 Open D #7 1 step down #8 Leo Kottke tuning for Vaseline Machine Gun (I currently have heavy strings on the Takamine to play that one)!
In summary - yes! Such a great sound…
Thanks dude. I need more.
Dang, what a difference.
Randy. I know. I even had to turn the 12 string down in the mix because the disparity was TOO MUCH. And all of that is straight out of those little condenser mics that literally snap onto the Zoom recorder. Have a great weekend. Thanks so much for all of your time and support. -Mark
A necessity i.m.h.o! g
Great video and. very nice song Mark!
Thanks so much Anthony. The morphing the 6 into the 12 was a last minute thing and I think it really brought the video over the top. Have a great weekend and take care. -Mark
Without a doubt every guitarist should have a 12 string. You clearly demonstrated the magical sound created by a 12 string. Since getting my 12 string I play it 90 percent of the time over my 6 string. This was such a great concept for a video. Keep them coming. Each one is better than the last.
Hey Michael. Thanks so much. The tying the two parts together was a last minute idea to shorten it. Once I did that I feel like I stumbled into one of my best videos. We shall see. I really appreciate all of the support. Take care. Mark
Mark, your composition sounded much fuller and richer on the 12 string. The Beatles Hard Day's Night got us hooked on the 12 string sound, but within a year they were double tracking 6 strings, and we really didn't know the difference. I'd say having a really good acoustic 6 string is the most important place to start. After that, well, it's up to the individual player. It's very difficult to "unhear" More Than a Feeling, or other seminal 12 string songs. My answer is you "must have" a quality 6 string acoustic guitar. Do we really need a 12 string? Some people can live on peanut butter sandwiches; most people like more variety. Another great episode, Mark. Personally, I think you must have a 12 string. Your show just wouldn't be the same without one. Take care & Peace!
Hey Michael. Great example of the double sixes is Everybodys Trying to be my baby and Lewison boom says they double tracked the intro to 8 Days. Theres definitely a difference in tone. More Than a Feeling is a great example of that classic 12 string picking but I think I that's a double tracked 12. Just for fun I tried to play the six 5, 10, and 15ms apart. Doesnt work. Just phasing. Needs to be two separate guitars played, preferably in stereo. Thanks for all the support. Take care and stay safe. Mark
Another kick a@$ video dude. Loved the 6 to 12 string change. Very cool. Great playing as always.
Thanks brother. Amazing support and I really appreciate it.
Everyone shoul have a 12 string in their arsenal!
Thanks for weighing in and supporting the channel Bob. Much appreciated. Have a great weekend. Mark
@@8MinuteAxe Been saving my money, hopefully will have a 12 string soon!
Fun video. No one needs 5,6,8 12 string guitars.
Except for me of course. 🤡
Definitely a big YES. I just love the sound of a 12 string guitar. Really enjoyed this video ,your song gave me juice bumps. You rock. ❤🎸🧘♀️🕊 Peace and Much Love.
Peace and love to you too Cynthia. I really appreciate the positivity and support. Have a great weekend and take care. -Mark
Of course! Duh
:)
Only 5? That's sweet to me.
Well, 6 is on the way and I have the Mitchell and the Ric so I have 7, waiting on 8...and I'm not counting the two Vangoa's that I have. LOL.
@@8MinuteAxe Moral of the story: there's no such thing as too many guitars especially 12 strings
Hey mate, this is a great way to sell 12 string guitars. I'm going to steal the idea too! Nice video, see you soon
Thanks Simon. Please, use it however you like. I'll connect with you later today...when it's your tomorrow. 😃
Awesome video Mark. Very clever idea with the 6 changing into the 12! Loved it!!
You know, it was last minute and I think it made it.
Nice work Mark. 👍
Thanks so much Errett. And thanks for always making the live chats. I really appreciate your time. Have a great weekend. -Mark
Totally!!
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I'm sold! I just started learning with a six string, but can hear the fullness of a 12 string.
Hey Robert. If you just started playing, I would recommend that you get 6 good months under your belt and then consider a 12-string. Let's face it, learning to play guitar can be frustrating at times and anything you can do to mitigate the frustration is a step in the right direction. The 12-string requires more hand strength and more accuracy both with the picking hand and the fretting hand. I've been teaching for over 25 years and I've distilled my thoughts on the best and most effective ways to practice in a few short videos. I encourage you to check them out: czcams.com/play/PLHs47cXmf1DQyWozhXvRjnpduWmIbBxqf.html. FYI, I don't sell anything so this is not any kind of sales pitch. Everything on the channel is 100% free. Thanks so much for checking out the video. Have a great evening and take care. Mark
Great video! Clever and excellent playing!
Thanks brother
Using effects, Can you make six string sound similar to twelve string
I'm thinking about reaching out to a couple of the pedal companies to see of theu want me to test drive a 12 string simulator pedal. The effects on my two processors (one a high end dsp) suck. It's hard to reproduce the sound by just doubling and I'm not sure a dsp can just modulate half the strings. Maybe. Has anyone had any luck with getting a quality 1w string sound with a pedal. If so, email me or shoot a video and I'll put you on the channel. Thanks for the support! Mark
@@8MinuteAxe thank you for the answer
Yes!!
Hey Tom. Right to the point. Thanks again for being on the chat. I really appreciate your time. Have a great weekend. -Mark
You nailed it here Mark. More Than A Feeling is probably my favorite 12 string song..
Hey Doug. I havent talked to you in forever. How was your summer? Shoot me an email when you have time and let's catch up. Take care. Mark
YES 😀 (without watching the video), I feel I NEED a second one now 😁
Hey Jonathan. Those open tunings are much more inspiring when you can just pick up the guitar and play rather than having to tune. Thanks so much for checking out the video. Have a great weekend! Mark
@@8MinuteAxe I played the Rain Song on my 12 string, that open tuning is amazing but it takes quite the effort to change the tuning to Gsus (if I remember correctly) and then back to standard tuning hehe. Have a good one too and thanks for your inspiring videos
Can i get a 45 of that original number you played?
Lmao. 45s were out by the time I was of record buying age but I did get Touch of Grey. I also bought reprints of Wildfire, and Key Largo. Thanks for the amazing support. Take care. Mark
Mark, You completely understand it when you say A Hard Days Night opened our eyes!! I was 14 in 1964 and have been playing Ric and Dano 12's since '65
For sure Carmello! Did you see my video THE SONG THAT MADE THE 12 STRING FAMOUS czcams.com/video/SfvYO9oPEv4/video.html where I say you have to draw a line in the sand before and after. I do love what bands did with the 12 in the 70s TOP 10 12 STRING SONGS OF THE 1970S! czcams.com/video/Zq2m9uAHXTc/video.html but yes, the Beatles defined so many things. Thanks so much for checking it out. I appreciate your time and your comment. I hope you have a great weekend. Take care and stay safe. -Mark
Loved it, Mark! Great job. I play a lot in Open D and Open G. Would love to see something in those tunings. I haven't done it yet, but you're convincing me that I need a 12-string! Thank you, sir!
Hey Jeff. Both of those tuning sound awesome on the 12, especially open G. Thanks for all the support. Have a great weekend and take care. Mark
@@8MinuteAxe Thanks, Mark. You too!
The sound of every song is just SO much more full with the 12-string guitar. The way you played a part on the 6 and then went directly to the 12 was an excellent, and fair, way to compare songs on both. The 12-string is great for strumming and picking, as you said. The 12-string is without a peer for picking, and hearing the songs you did reminded me of how much I need to improve my picking.
Brilliant piece Mark. I found that it was like hearing my favourite songs in stereo for the first time after a lifetime of hearing them in mono - Incredible (and that was with just one earpiece in place!). Reinforcing what I already knew - I really love the sound of a 12 string and this video has spurred me to playing mine a lot more from now on! Nice job Mark (yet again!)
Thanks brother. I have to tell you, I originally did each part in full on both. Initially I just wanted to save time by cutting in but what started as a fairly run of the mill idea became what I think is one of my best. We will see if the views support it, but I really like the way this one flows. I did all of these in one take with the camera rolling. I wish I had warmed up my voice a bit before singing but otherwise I think I nailed most of them. Take care. Mark
Hearing the contrasts was great, thanks for doing this. My wife doesn’t play professionally, yet she has five acoustic & one electric 12s guitars.
Got 10 can't get enough of them,all I play! I'm a solo artist with harmonica couldn't imagine playing anything else.
“Free Fallin’ “ still gets me every time. I really need to make the plunge and just get a 12-string!
Hey Matthew. I'm going to be reviewing the new Harley Benton Custom Line Jumbo 12 soon. $265 for a solid top. I haven't played one yet but the specs vs price are promising. I agree about Free Fallin. Thanks so much for all of your support. I really appreciate it so much. Take care. -Mark
@@8MinuteAxe I’ll definitely keep an eye out for your review!
Great video. I love your style. Rock On
Thanks again brother!
Thanks a lot for demonstrating these large contrasts. The differences are absolutely impressive!
Hey Marcus. Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment. I'm sincerely glad you enjoyed it. I hope you have a great week. Please take care and be well. Mark
Beautifully done Mark. Thank you.
Wow, what a difference! I think you convinced me here.Great video!
I love your channel. The videos are inspiring and I love the comparison between the 6 string and 12 string. You're very talented and watching these videos brings great joy and a smile to my face. Thanks!
Hey Willyboy. It's my pleasure. I'm very grateful and appreciative of your time and positive feedback. Have a great weekend and take care. Mark
Had a moment to watch and it was well worth it. Your original sounds great looking forward to the rest.
Hey brother. Thanks so much. I watched a documentary about the contamination at one of the treatment plants in Milwaukee that caused 31 deaths. I thought of you. LOL. Travel safely and thanks for making time to watch. Mark
Agree the 12 string brings a lot more depth to the song! Awesome comparison video Mark! Appreciate you brother!
Hey Brian. I appreciate you. The pleasure is all mine. I stumbled on the morphing one into the other last minute. I think it made what would have been a mediocre video one of my best. Take care and have a great weekend. -Mark
This one is super awesome! Even with the typo! Probably the Superskamp song is my favorite. Ha I actually like the remake better. Tks much! JJ
Did I spell Supertramp wrong as well?
5,once I got my first one then there was no turning back got about a dozen of them only thing I play. Changed my guitar playing life.
Hey Charles. I cut out the part where I said that the only person that needs 5 is someone with a 12 sting CZcams channel because I realized that I own about 15 6 stringers and for those that are exclusively 12 string slingers, 5 is 5 too few. Lol. Maybe if Vangoa and Harley Benton send me more I'll take a pic with them just to get close to your count. Lol. Thanks so much for checking out the video. Have a great day and take care. Mark
I'm a lefty too thank god I might have 100
Gas sufferer -guitar acquisition syndrome
Ah, a southpaw. You have to be very intentional with your purchases. Even more impressive. I was always a minimalist. I toured in 2002 with a tele and a Taylor 410. We were a trio but the bass player had a guitar with him so I did have a backup. From 85 when I first started as a little kid until 2018 I owned maybe 8 guitars total. Something cracked in 2018 and I got gas full on. At least 30 guitars in the last 3 years. 🤯
I need to work on my playing skills before I invest in a new 12 String. But, I will continue to follow your channel.
Very much appreciated Jeff. Let me know if I can do anything for YOU.
Excellent upload.
Hey Jules. thanks so much. I really appreciate the positive feedback.. FYI, I'm doing my first live stream Saturday evening at 7pm EDT It's going to be a discussion about the best campfire songs and I'm hoping for a lot of audience participation. Here’s the link czcams.com/video/XtcqJMX-DSg/video.html. Either way, enjoy the rest of your week and take care. -Mark
Five!? you just convinced me one is not enough, I've an acoustic and going to get The Harley Benton, thank-you. As always you are a pleasure to watch.
Another Great Video....yes, everyone should own at least 1 good 12-string acoustic, and your video proves it.
Hey Blake. Thanks so much. Your friendship, counsel, and support means a lot to me. Mark
Heck yes....everyone needs a 12 string guitar.
Hey brother. Thanks for weighing in. I hope you're well. Take care. -Mark
Great video, thats what i was looking for
Thank you for this great demonstration. I was on the fence about wanting a 12 string guitar but now, there is no question that i really want one.
Yep,.. found your channel a week or two ago,.. dusted off my old 1971 Martin Sigma, threw on some new strings and started hungering for a 12 string again, hahaha! Can't afford one but,.. maybe I can mic it and run it through my octave and get a similar result. We'll see. Still have a few of my old toys left in a box. It's been over 30 years but we'll see how it goes. Nearly like starting all over but not quite. Ha! Thanks for inspiring this old man, Mark. Appreciate you!
I would comment, but the 12 string said it all. Night and day.
Hey FilmFlam (you almost got me spelling that wrong). I appreciate the simple yet poignant sentiment. Have a great weekend and take care. Mark
I was really hoping the answer was gonna be no, but damn now I need it even more..!
12 Strings mix wonderfully when you sing along as you play.They really do encourage you to want to sing.
Mingalar Bar, i like both guitar sound🎼
i am from myanmar🇲🇲
thz for your review.
How are you? I really appreciate you taking the time to check out the video and I'm glad you got something out of it. Have a good weekend and take care. Mark
I bought a 12 strings 8 years ago, would never part from it. It,s a Norman B-20-12, a boomer , built to last a hundred years, love it.
Amazing video. Other "guitar comparison" authors could learn a lot from how you did this video. Brief, back and forth, continuous snippets of various songs, without much jabbering, and use of CZcams chapters for easy navigation. On the negative side, you're hurting a lot of peoples wallets with how convincing this video is.
Mark, thanks for the video! Gives a great comparison of the sound quality between the 6 and 12 strings. I think there are certainly some songs that feel more full/complete with the 12 string. I wonder how different "Crazy on You" would sound between a 6 string and a 12 string? Looking forward to your next video!
Hey Dennis. Thanks so much for checking out the video and supporting the channel. Interesting that you brought up Crazy on You. I was going to do Rick Beatos 20 Acoustic Intros on the 12. I started recording them one by one. Got to Crazy on You and couldnt get it up to performance quality and speed on the 12 so the plan was to take a few days and get it down. The next day the video idea didnt seem nearly as brilliant as it did the day before so I scrapped it. I didnt have the Taylor 12 at the time. I bet I could do it on the Taylor. I may give it a go. Have a great weekend and take care. Mark
Wow! Good one! Thanks! :)
#1...thank you for giving me the reasons to tell my wife why I need another guitar!
This is a very well thought out and detailed video. Love your playing the 6 and 12 string comparisons. Great job! Thank you
Definitely, the 12 strings GTR ROCKS! Where was I all this time?
Man, I was just pondering this question after watching your Harley Benton RB 612CS review. As a Beatles and 60's rock fan, you convinced me to get it! I just ordered it today, thank you for your review and for your quality videos! Looking forward to that Harley Benton Black RB 612CS :)
Hey DJ. I realize with $300 guitars, quality control can sometimes be an issue which is why I didnt absolutely rave about mine but as a follow up to the review I will tell you regardless of price, I love it. It never goes out of tune and I find myself grabbing it much more than the Ric. When I did the Zeppelin electric 12 video, I recorded all but one song on the HB. It may not get that perfect ric chime, but it's more versatile. I hope you enjoy it as much as I have. Please take care and be well and thanks so much for supporting the channel. Mark
Your videos definitely make me answer that question with a resounding YES! Plus that piece was amazing with the 12 string!
Nice comparison!You make me to bude 12 String guitar 😃
Thanks Mark, I have a 12 string in the collection and enjoy the dynamic it brings to a song
You don't have to convince me, Mark. Nicely done!!
Thanks so much Ross. I really appreciate it. You've been a big supporter of the channel and I'm very grateful. Take care and be safe. -Mark
After hearing you play I don't think anyone can say they don't need one. there is such life in the 12 string and makes me wonder why I even started playing with a 6 string. Love these video's where you compare 6 and 12 string guitar with these great songs. keep it going, great stuff.
Thank you so much for this. I'm a rhythm guitarist, mainly leading worship, and have been looking at a 12 string to accompany my Larrivee OM-03.
12 string sounds great on all! Like your developing original too, Mark.
Hey Martha. Always great to hear from you. You are one of the original supports from back when I had about 800 subs I think. Your continued support means a lot. I'll probably post the original soon. Take care and have a great weekend (what's left of it). :) Mark
Great sounds. Love watching and listening to your teachings. Thank you!
You cannot make a bad video!! (And I hope you never do lol), this video was great, man! The way you faded from the 6 into the 12 really shows the difference between the two. Personally, I love me a good ol' 6 string, it's a really versatile instrument and works like a charm in every genre and song, especially for a more intimate, James Taylor-later Beatles-Rain Song vibe, but the 12 string sure gives the 6 a run for its money! It makes any song stand out just enough to make it even cooler! Like you said, the 12 string is like bacon, everything's better with it!!
Hey brother. Trust me, I've made some bad videos. LOL. I really appreciate the support and encouragement. Don't forget first live stream Saturday evening at 7pm EDT It's going to be a discussion about the best campfire songs and I'm hoping for a lot of audience participation. Here’s the link czcams.com/video/XtcqJMX-DSg/video.html. Either way, have a great weekend and take care. -Mark
5:37 sounds divine! Keep posting Mark!
Hey William. It's great to hear from you. I really appreciate the continued support. I hope you're having a great weekend. Take care and be well . Mark
I agree that the 12-string has a much richer sound. You were obviously trying to push this, as your last original song has some reverb on your voice. But nonetheless, you sold me, and I just bought a 12-string. Thank you for this video.
Great video. I,m thinking about buying one and you answered all my questions. Thanks a lot and best wishes from Spain!
My God... that was a great 7:27 minute ride! Excellent song choices and your 12 string technique is flawless! Fun video and I learned a lot. I can't even imagine the time you put in to play and produce it. Thanks, Mark!
Thanks for the video! It's good to have both 6 and 12. 12 sounds more full, with real shimmering chorus and octaver effects. But for some songs it can be too much in the mix, so you need 6 as well. On a 6 string guitar is easier to play solos with deep bends. I have both)
It's amazing that when you play the 12 string, even your vocal doubles up!
I agree that every guitarist should own a 12 string. I borrowed a 1970s Terada 12 string from a friend of mine and fell in love with it. It was made in the golden age of Japanese acoustics and has a beautifully low action and a great sound. I've been trying to persuade him to sell it to me as he doesn't play it, but it has sentimental value to him so I haven't managed to persuade him yet. Also very tempted to buy the Harley Benton electric you reviewed a while back. It sounded really nice and was exceptionally good value compared to the Ricky.
Hi Mark! The 12 string makes everything pop; it is just a matter of finding what sounds rich on that instrument. Can't for your new single!
Closer to the Heart technically wasn't recorded on a 12, but it definitely doesn't sound right on a 6-string without the Nashville tuning overdub. So I guess that's fair. The others are like night and day though, especially Tom Petty. Some of them are unexpectedly hilarious like Wish You Were Here. Great video!
Nice catch. I believe Wild Horses and Free Fallin were 6 and Nashville as well. I did a video comparing the two using a mandocaster. Not a great head to head. I need to string another with Nashville. I believe I currently have 13 twelve string guitars so I think I can spare one. Thanks so much for your time and comment. I appreciate it. Have a great week and take care. Mark
@@8MinuteAxe Free Falling, no way! I should have known better though, touché! I'm currently shopping for a 12, and if I didn't think I needed one already, this vid showed me. Playing Supertramp on anything but a 12 is just wrong; big fan. Thank you for taking the time to make these, very useful. I'll check out more!
12 strings just sound so beautiful. I went to my local guitar shop a few weeks ago and played around with a 12 string acoustic. I have been thinking about that guitar ever since. It just sung, like I wasn't even playing it but just allowing it to make its incredable sound. Hopfully its still there once I get the money to buy it. I've never played a guitar I wanted more.
I came here hoping I wasnt going to have a reason to buy a 12 string guitar but now… I am definitely buying one..😂
I think that everyone should at least try a 12 string, and whilst I've know some not as comfortable, and I wouldn't ever try to convince them otherwise, I could never play anything else. I've had an extraordinary difficult last couple of months and find myself grieving much deeper and harder than I've done in the past few years over the loss of my beloved stolen Martin acoustic 12 string; as whilst I've played since I was 11 (proper chords, but toyed with from 8yrs old), I've also had several lovely 6 strings in early years, Yamaha, Gibson, then a humming bird as my first 12 string. However, it was a Martin, a no frills 12string acoustic that I picked up on a whim in a shop, and from that 1st moment, when I first held it, it utterly grabbed my heart and soul...and as such, both broken, lost, irreparable, when it was stolen. Even attempts to play subsequent versions brands, Seagull to Gibson, I couldn't find the 'right' replacement for my Martin, so convinced it was due to just being sentimental ....until I picked up a friend's Martin 12 a couple years ago. Bittersweet is the only word to describe it, as it felt as if mine had come home, then absolutely devastated, as circumstances are as such, I will never be able to afford to replace it, albiet unless my GP or Cancer Clinic docs could write me a prescription to have one covered;) That said, I listened to you again last week, and as I tried out a Seagull 12 again, I now KNOW 100% that my loss, inability to play the same with other makes or brands, isn't just sentimental now; as it's not just the sound, but the physical FIT and ability to COMFORTABLY hold, play a Martin 12, for me this is very real. Whilst a comfort to finally know, as it stops my futile, frustrated attempts to replace my own with anything else, it's also sad to know ones future, with not just physical health, disability housebound, but more so, my PTSD and depression have always been managed with playing guitar and music all my life; yet now that will be forever after, quite empty. But it's important for you to know that you and other music utube peeps ARE also helpful, share hope, and inspiring; as living vicariously also brings rays of sunlight, even on our darkest days. So please, keep doing what you are doing, because you make a difference in many MORE ways than you may know. The lovely supportive commenters/subscribers are also a joy to read, a community of like minds is always a special place to be, and for some of us, preferable to tangible places, as they also play a big part in keeping our spirits up:) warmest regards as always to you and the forum peeps, cheers from the Weald, across the pond, Garden of England:) Ladybudd XXX
It helps Mark out when we share the video with friends. How about we all share the videos. Thanks
Hey Phillip. I really appreciate the comment. My last 3 videos have all performed exceptionally well out of the gate and then died. The 70s 12 string video was killing it for 6 days (3.1k views) with an 8% click through rate which is very high. Literally over the course of two hours it died. It's only gotten 46 views in the last nine days. I don't know what it is. I can't seem to break into the next level. Don't get me wrong. The fact that 1100 people viewed my new video in the first 24 hours is fantastic and I'm so grateful, but I just can't seem to get to that next level again. I know I will eventually but it's hard to be patient. Have a great weekend. -Mark
@@8MinuteAxe I put the word out to my guitar friends. Let see if we can get you up there. You're at the top of my list. ✌️❤️
YES I NEED A 12 STRING, just like everyone that watches this video. Great job on the comparsion and great songs. Mark, this channel really motives me and makes me want to pick up my guitar. I thank you for that as others also do.
Hello fellow Taylor 12 string owner. Anyone reading, yes of course, get a 12 string! It adds so much depth and feel.
I might actually buy my first 12 string now ❤
I’ve tried and given up too many times in the past. Because of your videos, I’m convinced that I need a 12 string. I’ve had a couple acoustic 12s that just weren’t good “players” (I’m blaming the guitars… hahaha). I’m giving it another go. Not giving up. Electric 12 in my future! Thanks, man! Great original, too!
I haven’t even watched the video.
Hell Yes!!!
Hey Brian. Thanks for weighing in. I hope you get a chance to watch the video. Either way though, I appreciate your comment. Take care and enjoy the rest of your weekend. -Mark
I love it, i just bought recently a 2nd lag tramontante 12 string guitar, even it is old and have a small belly bulge, but the sound is still good and resonate. I love it
Now this is a compelling argument to make buy one... So many options tho (Vangoa, Harley Benton, Epiphone...)
I'm waiting for Thomann to send me the solid top HB12 acoustic. They've ghosted me after securing a partnership. We will see what happens.
After listening to this,I need a 12 string, and I like the new song !
12 string guitars add such great dimension to the sound
Hey Bob. For sure.. Check out my video 25 classic 12 string riffs czcams.com/video/8Eteg4fqQ-E/video.html either way thanks for checking this one out Have a great day and take care. Mark