3T Strada - The Fat-Tire, 1x-Specific Aero Bike
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- čas přidán 24. 07. 2024
- 3T's new road bike has been built from the ground-up for 28mm tires, impeccable aerodynamics and no front derailleur. Far from being a compromise, they see this as a big step toward the future of road cycling.
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Dare I say, I've grown fondly of the way this bike looks.
The air flows even better inside your wallet !
Great to see people trying something new on the road side of things.
I think the theory behind it is great, looking forward to seeing some on the road reviews
Can't wait to see all those arguments being tested in real life. Irish Pro-Continental team, Aqua Blue Sport, will be riding 3T’s Strada bike in the pro peloton next year.
It might be a revolution in the making.
It might be the biggest flop in modern cycling.
Personally, I think it's gonna be right in the middle: "it's ok, but it's not great !"
3T Stada has won it's first race.
Well...its a flop
How did this race go?
Good luck flogging that one. See you in 12 months time for your next "more aero" must have, future of cycling product........
Love the straight talking tech dude, speaking my language
Thank you gerard for making such a great bike!!
Did you buy it
@@brody5211 yes sir i bought it and already sold it last year
I hope this bike is the future.
just a dream of a bike!
I love the idea of this bike and the cassette. The main problem with 1x for road was the big jumps and they have come up with a solution to fix it.
How is this bike different from the exploro?
I wonder is it possible for u guys to convey a message to Gerard, that neither the "overdrive" and "bailout" cassette looks good for us mere mortal yet who loves 1x.
I have come up with the idea of mixing them both, i.e. 9-11-12-13-14-15-17-19-22-26-32, which the 14T cog makes my thirtyish kph slow cruise much enjoyable
Love you muuhhha
26 to a 32 is a hiiideous jump. I rode one at eurobike and the 28mm tyres rubbed the chainstays under high torque. So no, they haven't designed it adequately for 28mm! Dear me
It is a known issue with GP4000s. Tires that bulge out that much will not fit this bike. Normal 28s will.
Madness , why did they put the GP 28s on this bike considering it’s well known they run large and will rub . Surely a real 28m tyre was obvious from another brand . If they can’t get this right it makes you wonder who’s making the decisions .
Having said that I do like the 1x11 setup
Probably because they wanted to run with the arguably most popular tire which would make thins easier for people since they know how it behaves on the road.
28mm is really not the choice for these wheels. Many triathletes still run 23mm tires on the newer wider rims, since they blow up to 26-27mm which fits just perfect with a HED rim for example with external width of 27mm. Also rule of thumb is that the tire has to be 95% of the width of the external width of the rim in order to maximize aero gains.
the 28s they put on might blow up to whopping 33 or even bigger, since a regular gp 4000 sII on a 17c rim has a real size of 31mm. And i highly doubt that these rims are wider than some trailbike or even enduro rims
Nice design. I'm liking the direction they are taking road. So were they actually running a 25C or 28C tire and when are the going to release a affordable version?
11-36 is also perfect on the road, I even like it better now than my 11-32.
Chain losses must be significant on a 9 tooth cassette 1- 3% power ??
Looks like it took a lot of cues from the s5. Id run a 1x, but it still doesnt seem to be as versitile as 2x. I currently run 53/39 with 11- 32 cassette. If i wanted something similar from a 1x system id need a 54 t ring with a cassette that has a 400% range something like 12- 46. A cassette like that seems a little too jumpy for road. Still not too keen on discs though.
I have been using 1x on my mountainbikes for years now but not sold on the idea for my road bike. Certainly shimano m8000 when running on the extreme 46 tooth rear cassette is not the smoothest. Road bikes tend to spin high cadences and smoothness is more important as cross chaining creates a loss in watts apparently and never sounds great.
I need this secret bro setup he keeps referring to
Can you guys do a downhill bike of the year kinda thing like the enduro bike of the year where you compare all the bikes? Would love to see which one is better the canyon sender or the yt tues as I’m very indecisive 😂
Who is dropping all these chains on the road? Do you keep up with your bike maintence? I ran a drivetrain to 4,000 miles (2,000 were racing miles) and dropped a chain only when coast downhill on bad road at 30+ mph. Never while shifting and at that it only happened once every 10-15 rides. Then again, it was shimano so the front shifting actually worked.
Rear cassette cost? Looks like I'd be locked into a proprietary cassette at an undisclosed price.
The question is, was Phil Hhite kicked out from Cervelo, or did he sell out and leave on his own.
Well explained...
I am in love 😍
bike apaixonante , muito linda .
Why did gerard vroomen left cervelo? such a bummer.
Everything that momentarily sticks to your tyre now catches your frame.
11-36 works on the road too, not that crazy. I mean, I’m not a racer, but I’m only in the top gear maybe 2% of the time so...I like the 1x simplicity.
geniale ed originale
What about cross-chaining?
For amateur state of the art toys lovers it's a perfect set! But what pro riders concerns, I did not get: is it "all about nothing" or "nothing about all" concept?
The 3t looks like a cervelo t3 with a rear mech
I still like doubles for everything. I'm still using an older SRAM triple on the MTB and it's never caused me a problem (and it's even a SRAM front mech!). I've just never understood why everybody hates the front mech. I just assume they're all SRAM diehards (everything else is Shimano). My chains never come off road, cross, or XC. Downhill and maybe enduro maybe different, but if speed uphill matters then it seems silly not to have one. Does all the weight savings even add up to a stack of beans? Front derailleurs are pretty light, front chain rings aren't much, and the weight of a shifter lever is not even a large minority due to the shifting mechanisms. Maybe a half pound all together? Maybe the problem is I'm not a rich cyclist and can't have my XC, enduro, CX, road climbing, road aero, and gravel bikes all be different steeds with extra components to change out depending on the course and conditions.
1x is just better for mountain biking. There's a reason pretty much all high-end MTBs use 1x, save for some fancy XC rigs running Di2. A front mech will: drop chains frequently (vs. never for 1x), weigh more, clutter the bars, require maintenance, and is just another part to break. MTB bars will already have a dropper lever in place of the front shifter, and occasionally have an addition remote lockout lever to compete with.
Also, 2/3x shifting over rapidly changing terrain and grade is a lot harder to get the hang of. It's very easy to cross-chain by accident.
Finally, 1x systems open a lot of options for frame design, which is perhaps the most important point.
Here's the rest of my comment I assuming you didn't read as I mainly make the case of 2x by for non gravity disciplines.
This "cluttered handlebar" statement always cracks me up too. A quarter in wide clamp for a mech that sits perfects under the brake. Sounds crazy congested. But again, the case is mostly for non gravity disciplines.
Here's the rest of my first comment.
Downhill and enduro maybe different, but if speed uphill matters then it seems silly not to have one. Does all the weight savings even add up to a stack of beans? Front derailleurs are pretty light, front chain rings aren't much, and the weight of a shifter lever is not even a large minority due to the shifting mechanisms. Maybe a half pound all together? Maybe the problem is I'm not a rich cyclist and can't have my XC, enduro, CX, road climbing, road aero, and gravel bikes all be different steeds with extra components to change out depending on the course and conditions
"A quarter in wide clamp for a mech that sits perfects under the brake." - This is exactly where the dropper-post lever goes. Now add a remote lockout into the mix.
For speed uphill a 1x system can have more range than 2x, so range isn't a good argument either. Eagle has 500% range, and e*thirteen makes a 511% range cassette.
1x is simpler, easier to use, takes up less space, has less parts to break, and allows for different (better) frame design.
I don't understand your "rich cyclist" argument.
if im running a 1 by i want a 40cassette minimum
It's frustrating to see people bashing disk brake bikes that give more tire clearance. As a commuter your not always going to be on perfect roads, and 1 x just gets rid of something you don't really need. I really hope to see more bikes like these but the bike community is just so narrow-minded tears down anything that they don't agree with.
ok enough said, just take my money!
But what is the max tire clearance?
30mm which is essentially 28mm on a modern wheel
Who actually believes there will be a sugnificant aero advantage with the 1x? I mean, one that we can feel?
Drivetrain is not for Kittel, Griepel and Sagan
44 32 is still too big of a gear compared to some 2x setups. 1x is a meme.
9-46 cassette !!!
that is wayyyy to tight on the clearance betweeen front wheel and the frame tube. a pebble would ruin it
IBE just buy a new one.
When aero goes offroad
This is their road bike, the Strada (road in Italian) .
No good for gravel as clearance is way too tight.
Ok for road with 26mm tyres but with 28mm tyres it looks too tight for even road use, any road dirt will cause problems
Will stick with my CX bike, and a wide range of tyres
He may be a brilliant bike designer, but he does not know all the 2 x gear options out there. I have a compact with a 36 at the back for real steep hills that will extend to 40 if necessary once I reach 70 years old (Shimano road 10spd with a MTB RD) so better than one to one if necessary, and so better than the widest one x. 10 speed, so cheap as well.
That would have to be a pretty dirty muddy road to cause problems. They also make versions for much bigger tyres and for 2x drivetrains as well.
Nice bike but the price is absurd.
That poor frame is going to get blasted by all the small rocks that sticks to the tyres. And slowly get sanded down. Not all ride i perfect dirt free conditions.
9 teeth casette ring... does that even work ? Shouldn't there be power loss ? There must be a reason why the hour record was broken with a 56-14 gear and not 36-9...
Know-it-all Keyboard Warrior I think the major problem is there's only ever 3 chain links in contact with the cog. Could be interesting to see if that holds up under a pro sprinter
They seem to be holding up OK with top level XC MTBers last season, so I'd say they should be OK
Kevin Fox who has a 9t cassette on a pro xc team?
The more teeth engaged the more optimal it is so do the math.
Ohh dis!! Like maybe CeramicSpeed was on to something with their giant pulley wheels on their aftermarket derailleur cages?
This is such a confused bike. Trying to do too much, not doing any of it well.
thefunmachine
You’re confused, the bike makes sense!
He has a point, it's 3T's first foray into 1-by road bikes, so any later iterations will be sure to improve upon what appears to be a great base
Everything looks OK to me but the tiny gap of that front wheel and down tube looks like HELL
nice bike but bullshit saying that 1x has bigger range than 2x. 2x will always have a bigger range. always!
It's not bullshit, sram 1x drivetrains commonly use the 10-42t cassette which gives a 420% gear range, the commonly used 11-28 cassette gives a 368% gear range on a compact chainset
bigger tire - yes
1xchainring , discbrake - no
Wtf is going on
Stupidity knows no bounds... we now have almost perfect front shifting, going one by on the road is dumb. The tolerances are too tight on the bike, an errant piece of gravel can shred your tire. Change front rings? What a pain... just run a 2x.
I still maintain that 1x drivetrains are absolutely stupid on road bikes.
Bike had a 50T chainring not a 44T, either way...poor gearing.
He didn't say the bike on display has a 50t chainring. He said that you *would* only need a 44t chain ring (in tandem with the 9t cog) for gearing comparable to 53x11.
3:15 This bike has a 50T, he didn't have to say it, you only have to look. Poor gearing.
yeah but that looks like an 11-36 casette which would give the same bottom end as a 53-39 with an 11-28.
Ridiculous cross gearing when climbing? Great on my Specialized FatBoy 1x11, absolute shit on a road bike! I'll pass...
Vroomen has a real nack for designing absolutely putrid looking bikes
Smells like failure
its a kids bike lmao
just build an mtb for goodness sake. stop all these confused bike design model.
Jogie Glen Mait, it's a road bike dude
ugly wiring
What an ugly contraption.
Stupid 1x11 !Nobody could climb on 44/32 and nobody would be fast on an aero bike by 36/9 neither 38 that could climb .
You haven't seen the results yet. First some facts, then you can claim that it doesn't work. I am welcoming this new approach from 3T and I am happy to find out how it will work in the coming year.
I don't think we need results, this is not some revolutionary new tech, it's simply about the gear range. That big jump to the largest cog is nothing new either, look up Shimano Mega Range.
In my personal opinion 1x11 can be awesome, but this cassette is pretty limiting. You can't really deny that.
Ive ridden up many steep streets on my SINGLE SPEED bmx, I think you all should just take a concrete pill and buy an ebike of your scared of a little climb!!!!
I agree 1x is dogshit for road
Oreo Carlton why? In a flat country having 1x makes perfect sense