Or you need to prove yourself strong calling others "scum" on the internet, banbino? Go eat a maccarrone with a nice slice of pizza and calm yourself down when talking to people, ok?
As someone who has some RABM songs and want to record and release something soon, is really nice to see compilations like these, with so many awesome people that made this style with so important messages exist!
im super late to the party but, some suggestions that are the closest things I know to that “war” kind of sound that these natsoc bands have, would be from the likes of 1914 (try songs like: gasmask, passchenhell, and Harlem Hellfighters -> but theyre more of a blackdoom w/ cleaner instrumentation) or anything from the “Ruins” album by Iskra. But observations I have made are that nsbm and rabm are almost totally different genres with totally different sounds to them and not just different by ideology-> I mean that there’s really no NSBM version of Wolves In The Throne Room, Lamp Of Murmuur, and Panopticon. So listen to what you want, liking nsbm isn’t a problem unless you’re finding yourself agreeing with it’s messages. This is coming from an antifascist
American here, August 12th 2017... after watching the gathering of KKK and Neo-Nazis in Charlottesville, VA go super-violent, I needed to get some RABM
I'm the only atheist who is laughing his ass off? XD Imagine those guys parents listening to this shit, I mean do they feel special? or like the VIPs of the "hell" XD
@LordAcheron92 I don't think that adding outside influences to a genre makes it more unique or deeper, it bastardizes it. All the bands I mentioned have a completely different sound. For example, yes, Avhzia is obviously inspired heavily by Emperor and Gehenna in their aesthetics, but all three bands still offer completely different feelings and experiences. Black metal, by definition, is an opposition to the assimilation of death metal to outside influences - all the founders state this.
I heard or read Euronymous was a self declared Stalinist, and that he used to import and distribute records from South American bands, Sarcofago from Brazil being one of them. I think Vickerness started all that NSBM thing with his white supremacy claims and neo-nazi philosophy. Ah, and what about Hellhammer of Mayhem claiming that "black metal is for white people" in an interview (in case you did not know, the guy is half Norge and half North African)... I don't know... I guess the BM scene has always been full of bullshit like that...
Euronymous was Stalinist only because Stalin killed more people than Hitler did. If Hitler had killed more then he probably would have been a nazi. Bring back the Iron curtain and people will fucking suffer.
@generatorsdrone I think Akyorthserep's music isn't for everyone, it sounds a bit more like old industrial metal (Godflesh, Dead World, Head of David, Fall of Because) than BM. And "Сталинизм" was recorded in 1999? I thought it's from 2000s.
You definetly have a very shortened definition of black metal ... hate for example has a cause ...its often caused by alienation and rejecting the opression of moral and other ideoligical/religious values of the "status quo" . Black metal is often very anarchistic in a lot of ways
@LordAcheron92 How new are you to black metal? Do you listen to the classics (pre-Filosofem Burzum, Gorgoroth's Antichrist, Immortal up to Pure Holocaust, the first four Darkthrone full-lengths, everything by Beherit) or any newer black metal that is generally understood to be modern classics (Averse Sefira, Sorcier Des Glaces, Avhzia)? Technically, spiritually, and philosophically, how does the music in the video relate to what the what the originators and pioneers are doing?
Truly brutal. And without the Xenophobic bullshit of NSBM. Especially applied to the Anarchy part (Particularly the branches formed from Nietzchean Individualism), which is perhaps the true essence of Black Metal.
Agreed. Individualist Anarchism and LaVeyan Satanism are basically the embodiment of what Black Metal originally stood for. Once the Nazis, Pagans and Christians came in though, the "true essence" was gone.
Eh i dunno I mean Bathory and Burzum pretty much were gods of BM and although anyone on the left side may despise Varg both these bands were heavily pagan or at least pagan themed... not sure if Quorthon just sang about Nordic shit cos he actually believed it or if it was all for stage
@SamaeL0205 beyond all of that black metal is about freedom, its about not being constrained by narrow expectations whether they be commercial expectations, moral etc, the second wave of BM anyway arose in response to the increasing commercialism that was becoming apparent in modern death metal, people wanted an outlet for real genuine expression black metal is all about not conforming to any particular viewpoint, hell look at the diversity that exists with in the genre.
@1norwood1 And, just because you attacked my form - 1 . You're citing sources which are unrelated to metal and the era that gave birth to it, thus projecting your own belief onto something that's objective. 2. I gave a valid, though cliche, point shown from history. You tried to relate it to something that was only related in that it involved Communists and mass death. 3. Elaborate how I'm distorting the argument. All I gather is that you somehow think misanthropy is positive to populism.
Maybe Thränekind/King Apathy would have a sound you prefer. Dawn Ray'd and Feminazgûl also have a bit more of a clear sound and sometime folk instruments. I'm not sure if you can call it high production value but they're good! Good luck in your research!
@LordAcheron92 Do you listen to the classics (pre-Filosofem Burzum, Gorgoroth's Antichrist, Immortal up to Pure Holocaust, the first four Darkthrone full-lengths, everything by Beherit) or any newer black metal that is generally understood to be modern classics (Averse Sefira, Sorcier Des Glaces, Avhzia)? Technically, spiritually, and philosophically, how does the music in the video relate to what the what the originators and pioneers are doing?
Nomen Oblitus My feelings? I think your feelings were hurt in the first place since you made a nonsense comment in a music video just because it doesn't fit your views .Why are you here anyway? Tell me that.
Roy Brière Are you really that butthurt over me posting my opinion on "red & anarchist" black metal? I didn't know that you value my opinion that much, or maybe you just can't take some critique on this this circus lol.
Nomen Oblitus Opinion, opinion, opinion.... how many times are you gonna use that word hahah? Butthurt? lmao...long live hypocrisy I guess. You just wrote ''fucking ridiculous'' and ''circus'' , you consider them a ''critique''?!! Just stop fucking around like a troll, just because someone has different views than yours.
And for the sake of keeping on track, you didn't rebuke my point of glorifying aesthetics vs. glorifying the spirit of music. If aesthetics are what's important to you, then yeah, bands like Deathspell Omega, Agalloch and Ceremonial Castings will appeal to you. How do you feel that these artists compare to the black metal classics ,and how are they a good thing? How are they not exactly like what ruined all other underground genres before BM? They just aren't as effectual.
@anchower Honestly I don't like her voice too. But at least she can play guitar, bass and drums. If you like her, then feel free to check out two more videos made by me and dedicated to her ("Eternal War" and "Wolven Hatred").
I'd argue, that despite fitting more with my political ideologies, I'd argue that RA fits BM less than NS. I've always view anarchism as a positive philosophy and black metal as musical genre that embraces all that is negative. Black metal is hatred, anarchy is love. Also, while you can say that some "old world Pagan culture" embraced gender equality its wrong to imply that it all did. Rome, after all, was pagan far longer than it was Christian. (Continued below.)
I would argue that religion and fascism are both very much "natural". If the former wasn't, mankind would not have had gods since his intellect could form the concept. If the later wasn't, you would not have animals that form patriarchal societies. What sets man above all animals is our ability to transcend our natural urge.
I'm a communist and I love black metal. And I have to agree that RABM is quite lacking and stupid. Some NSBM bands are not political in their lyrics, and because of that, I listen to some of them. This however, is overly political and more like anarcho-punks meet black metal, which is a nasty combination. Black metal, should be Satanic/Pagan, anti-religious, and apolitical. It should stay that way.
One could have expected this, if there is NSBM, then there will be RABM. Although i think the NSBM scene is more agressive and thus matching the BM-scene more. But i don't care if you're nazi or anarchist, it's the music that counts.
Are you seriously thinking that I'm interested in your moronic opinion about RABM scene? Your comment have got exactly such kind of answer that it deserve.
timebomb is not BM, Iskra is not BM, Radioskugga is not BM, FNI is not BM...cant be bothered with the rest. I AM an Anarchist, love BM and I hate Communism, its the enemy of anarchism. Read up on political theory and history and you will see why. This vid gets half a star for trying.
And what was Rome? To this day, it serves as a model for the patriarchy. While the idea of oppressed Pagans rebelling against tyrannical Catholics certainly fulfill a certain romantic ideal, it is far from the truth. The issue lies not in religion, but in the very nature of man itself; we are animals by our nature and seek to fulfill only our base urges, even if its at the expense of others. Why do you think than many of the founding anarchist thinkers considered it the highest IDEAL?
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@14SpartanSupremacy88 Was Athens fascist? No, because in Athens flourished philosophy, sciences, literature and democracy. Did contributed Sparta anything to the world? No.
I think that desire for freedom, of individual opinion is something that is very much in common with the revolutionary zeal of the left and so I very much see black metal as being a legitimate vehicle for expression of left leaning ideas. Look at a band like Samael, their lyrics are very much centered around being open to new ideas and avoiding the formation of narrow opinions so to see someone with Samael in their username espousing such thoughts makes me a little sad.
@LordAcheron92 Agreed - most BM since the mid-90's is mundane trash because bands try to imitate an aesthetic instead of using it to compliment their art. Fuck the black metal "warrior" kids who can barely manage to hold a job or function at all in society, but think howling blasphemy somehow makes them part of an elite. My point is that this approach to music (glorifying aesthetic vs. glorifying spirit) extends into this sub-genre, and as far as I have seen, dominates it entirely.
@MrIKILLFASCISTS Strains? i dont understand exactly what you mean. Am I an Anarchist, yes, deep in my heart and soul Anarchist ideology runs deep. Anarchism is more akin to a philosophy and religion(dare i say it) as much as a political stance. Its use as a verb I somewhat reject. Im also an eco-warroir,friend of the poor and underdog and court jester. Its important to keep a sense of humour about these things. And i didnt mean any offence. Sorry if you took it that way. Peace
@1norwood1 I was under the impression that April 12 was the beginning of a civil war, not a globalized national government pretending to know what's best and snuffing out citizen's who aren't so sure. Am I wrong? I'd argue that adding such a binary dogma is only a means of stunting something. However, trying to argue that metal represents populist and modernist agendas is in err. Unless you're referring to power metal, that is. I am interested in how you feel nihilism promotes leftism.
@WALOKEINELUSTful actually, Sparta saved athen's ass during the Persian war, before the classical period. So yes, we can say Sparta contributed to the survival of the Hellenic world.
@subataxia86 musically irrelevant because it fails to meet your subjective opinion, please, now who is the person being objective. It takes a lot more integrity to be willing to stand up and espouse an ideal then it does to project an image of detached cynicism.
@subataxia86 Nihilism look at the situationist movement and the large influence Nietzsche had on the Frankfurt School etc. As for the rest I think it's quite clear we disagree here it has nothing to do with populism and I think that by trying to argue as such you are willfully distorting the argument. You argued that black metal was conceptually opposed to leftist ideas I demonstrated that it wasn't...
@subataxia86 What are you talking about, and who is "hipster" here? Hipster movement is all about elitism, and RABM is against any elitism (and pretentious elitists like you in particular). It IS black metal, no matter if you like it or not.
dierks67 that's a weak ass semantic. Piracy today vs "yo ho ho" piracy back then still carry the definition "to rob or steal" which is something that is done in both usages. FOH lol
The way you feel about the state also holds for private property. No one has a legitimate claim to absolute power over anyone or anything. Read Proudhon.
I don’t really consider myself to be on either extreme of the political spectrum (but have an interest in them) but love listening to different kinds of black metal. Some of this is good shit!
@subataxia86 the old CCCP reference, original. What about all the communist killed in the Shanghai massacre etc history reveals the faults of all people on all sides. Misanthropy is one product of alienation, which Marx had a lot to say on. Also Nihilism which is another common theme of black metal has had a profound influence on left thought. it has nothing to do with a made up history of BM. Trying to imposing arbitrary limits as to what does and doesn't belong in BM is counter to the genre.
@LordAcheron92 All that really matters is the music. When a specific ideology becomes a point to the band, that ego instantly becomes more important than the music itself. Furthermore, music is an artist's way of communicating to the listener. Any underlying philosophy an artist has is inherent in their music. This is Philosophy 101. Modernized music is a cancer. Unblack, RSBM, NSBM - all ARE NOT black metal, they're just marketed and dressed up like it. My reference point? The founders..
@1norwood1 Cynicism is idealistic in and of itself, and everywhere I've been, it's opposed more than any leftist system of belief. I'm not saying that, alone, makes it valid. I'm just replying to the "stand up and be tough" style of argument. Your movement would be a lot stronger if you spent less time pretending to be artists and more in the field as an agent of change. Attracting the lowest common denominator through easy to transcribe meaning ruins it. What do you gather as my opinion?
The first RABM band were Profecium, an Argentinian band.
Very good to know that there is a resistence against the facists slags.
Hahaha, whats the problem?
Can't you stand a bit of free thinking?
Or you need to prove yourself strong calling others "scum" on the internet, banbino? Go eat a maccarrone with a nice slice of pizza and calm yourself down when talking to people, ok?
Now your excellency will explaim me your first comentary?
no nazis in valhalla
Sometimes antisocial, always antifascist!
damn right!
Cringe
As someone who has some RABM songs and want to record and release something soon, is really nice to see compilations like these, with so many awesome people that made this style with so important messages exist!
I really love Operation Volkstod's music. It's an RABM-band, too.
A great band, but this video's from 2009✌️
I'm glad this music exists. Thanks for posting.
Отличные видео, благодаря ним сделала для себя много музыкальных открытий.
Dodsangel are cool, also Vreid. But there's not an "RABM" Peste Noire, Nokturnal Mortum or Absurd. Thats the problem.
@Sacred Serenity93 how so
@@birchalley2833 Name some rabm bands for us with a similar sound to the ns ones he mentioned.
im super late to the party but, some suggestions that are the closest things I know to that “war” kind of sound that these natsoc bands have, would be from the likes of 1914 (try songs like: gasmask, passchenhell, and Harlem Hellfighters -> but theyre more of a blackdoom w/ cleaner instrumentation) or anything from the “Ruins” album by Iskra.
But observations I have made are that nsbm and rabm are almost totally different genres with totally different sounds to them and not just different by ideology-> I mean that there’s really no NSBM version of Wolves In The Throne Room, Lamp Of Murmuur, and Panopticon. So listen to what you want, liking nsbm isn’t a problem unless you’re finding yourself agreeing with it’s messages.
This is coming from an antifascist
American here, August 12th 2017... after watching the gathering of KKK and Neo-Nazis in Charlottesville, VA go super-violent, I needed to get some RABM
Alt-right are Neo-Conservatives. Still fascist though
And what about all of the shit Antifa does?
Metal has always been political.
I'm the only atheist who is laughing his ass off? XD Imagine those guys parents listening to this shit, I mean do they feel special? or like the VIPs of the "hell" XD
haha, I bet that hit you right in the feels
so many neonazi keyboard warriors in the comments...
sergi martinez and tell me what are your political beliefs eh? What side are you on?
don't you know what Anarchy means?
I highly recommend Profecium - Socialismo Satanico \m/
and Gudsforladt
@LordAcheron92 I don't think that adding outside influences to a genre makes it more unique or deeper, it bastardizes it. All the bands I mentioned have a completely different sound. For example, yes, Avhzia is obviously inspired heavily by Emperor and Gehenna in their aesthetics, but all three bands still offer completely different feelings and experiences. Black metal, by definition, is an opposition to the assimilation of death metal to outside influences - all the founders state this.
Are these those Black metal guys against islamophobia? LMAO. You should be against all religions.
Thank you for sharing.
Smash the system.
Knuse systemet.
Разбей систему.
These people could learn a lot from the aesthetics of the Soviet futurists.
I heard or read Euronymous was a self declared Stalinist, and that he used to import and distribute records from South American bands, Sarcofago from Brazil being one of them. I think Vickerness started all that NSBM thing with his white supremacy claims and neo-nazi philosophy. Ah, and what about Hellhammer of Mayhem claiming that "black metal is for white people" in an interview (in case you did not know, the guy is half Norge and half North African)... I don't know... I guess the BM scene has always been full of bullshit like that...
Euronymous was Stalinist only because Stalin killed more people than Hitler did. If Hitler had killed more then he probably would have been a nazi. Bring back the Iron curtain and people will fucking suffer.
Don't forget the fact that Euronymous also was a huge fan of Absurd and ready to sign them on his label before he was killed
@@flower-ld5id how can you be a Stalinist and not be authoritarian.
I like Euronymous but his "communist" identity was based on absolutely idiotic fantasy ideology and the drive to appear as evil as possible
Never thought of it this way. Its a nice standpoint.
i love all the "gay" comments, because the people posting them are most likely closeted themselves ;) p.s. i
@generatorsdrone
I think Akyorthserep's music isn't for everyone, it sounds a bit more like old industrial metal (Godflesh, Dead World, Head of David, Fall of Because) than BM. And "Сталинизм" was recorded in 1999? I thought it's from 2000s.
You definetly have a very shortened definition of black metal ... hate for example has a cause ...its often caused by alienation and rejecting the opression of moral and other ideoligical/religious values of the "status quo" . Black metal is often very anarchistic in a lot of ways
@LordAcheron92 How new are you to black metal? Do you listen to the classics (pre-Filosofem Burzum, Gorgoroth's Antichrist, Immortal up to Pure Holocaust, the first four Darkthrone full-lengths, everything by Beherit) or any newer black metal that is generally understood to be modern classics (Averse Sefira, Sorcier Des Glaces, Avhzia)? Technically, spiritually, and philosophically, how does the music in the video relate to what the what the originators and pioneers are doing?
Truly brutal. And without the Xenophobic bullshit of NSBM. Especially applied to the Anarchy part (Particularly the branches formed from Nietzchean Individualism), which is perhaps the true essence of Black Metal.
Agreed. Individualist Anarchism and LaVeyan Satanism are basically the embodiment of what Black Metal originally stood for. Once the Nazis, Pagans and Christians came in though, the "true essence" was gone.
As a pagan I somewhat agree
Der Einzige lets not lump all pagans into one group im a pagan and proud antifa
Eh i dunno I mean Bathory and Burzum pretty much were gods of BM and although anyone on the left side may despise Varg both these bands were heavily pagan or at least pagan themed... not sure if Quorthon just sang about Nordic shit cos he actually believed it or if it was all for stage
RABM has always been terrible. Imagine when the best you have is Sorgsvart and Filii Nigrantium Infernalium
this really is trash, bolshies have no taste
NSBM has always been shit, keep coping Nazi poser 🤡🤡
@lordasaradel
It was a very "informative" and "intelligent" comment.
Solidarity 🤟
@14SpartanSupremacy88 I think the more appropriate word would be "totalitarian". And both Sparta & imperial Rome ended up quite bad.
Спасибо.
@SamaeL0205 beyond all of that black metal is about freedom, its about not being constrained by narrow expectations whether they be commercial expectations, moral etc, the second wave of BM anyway arose in response to the increasing commercialism that was becoming apparent in modern death metal, people wanted an outlet for real genuine expression black metal is all about not conforming to any particular viewpoint, hell look at the diversity that exists with in the genre.
This is more amusing than christian black metal
@Akira3441 Yes, I know. But it was long before the term "RABM" was coined.
red no, but always anarchist
@Romanion
You can find all that in my blog, I've posted 2 albums by them.
SLAVA RABM !!!
Great work
Thanks!
truth is though, that comment makes fun of itself
Dernier Martyr, nice nice
+iwrotehaikusaboutanarchisminyouryearbook ,
Yes, very nice :D
@BlacKronstadt So is NSBM. whether you like it or not, it's there, and it's gonna stay.
@elizzard45
Actually, it's a cover version of one of the marches of Red Cavalry.
@MrIKILLFASCISTS It's probably because I translated the tags for this video to several languages, including Arabic.
Wow, Timebomb!!!
Cool! Communites und Anarchist ist Unity!
@1norwood1 And, just because you attacked my form -
1 . You're citing sources which are unrelated to metal and the era that gave birth to it, thus projecting your own belief onto something that's objective.
2. I gave a valid, though cliche, point shown from history. You tried to relate it to something that was only related in that it involved Communists and mass death.
3. Elaborate how I'm distorting the argument. All I gather is that you somehow think misanthropy is positive to populism.
@mahamrityumjay RABM is ideologic variation of black metal with leftist and anarchist content.
Is there any RABM with good production values?
Maybe Thränekind/King Apathy would have a sound you prefer.
Dawn Ray'd and Feminazgûl also have a bit more of a clear sound and sometime folk instruments. I'm not sure if you can call it high production value but they're good!
Good luck in your research!
@@xgzav3488 Thanks!
A lot of these bands end up sounding like shitty grindcore 😂
Panopticon is ok but the rest of these bands stink.
@Kormanyfg Black Metal was invented by Venom, Bathory etc. Euronymous was a Stalinist. Mayhem were known as a Death Metal band.
Are you guys for real or just a joke?
Real !
@MrIKILLFASCISTS By the way, the map looks even more interesting after all these revolutionary events in Egypt.
@TheCheckonetwothree Black Metal is a Musical Genre, Not a Lyrical theme. Why do you say it can't be against Elitism?
Wow what an insightful comment. xD xD
@LordAcheron92 Do you listen to the classics (pre-Filosofem Burzum, Gorgoroth's Antichrist, Immortal up to Pure Holocaust, the first four Darkthrone full-lengths, everything by Beherit) or any newer black metal that is generally understood to be modern classics (Averse Sefira, Sorcier Des Glaces, Avhzia)? Technically, spiritually, and philosophically, how does the music in the video relate to what the what the originators and pioneers are doing?
VIVA EL RABM
Reminds me of Funky Jesus and The Funbunch
the first rabm band was profecium not timebomb
Fucking ridiculous.
So you came here just to comment this shit? If you don't like it, you can fuck off and listen to that nsbm shit.
Roy Brière I'm so sorry I expressed an opinion that's not the same as yours, I hope I didn't hurt your feelings mister anarchist.
Nomen Oblitus My feelings? I think your feelings were hurt in the first place since you made a nonsense comment in a music video just because it doesn't fit your views .Why are you here anyway? Tell me that.
Roy Brière Are you really that butthurt over me posting my opinion on "red & anarchist" black metal? I didn't know that you value my opinion that much, or maybe you just can't take some critique on this this circus lol.
Nomen Oblitus Opinion, opinion, opinion.... how many times are you gonna use that word hahah?
Butthurt? lmao...long live hypocrisy I guess. You just wrote ''fucking ridiculous'' and ''circus'' , you consider them a ''critique''?!! Just stop fucking around like a troll, just because someone has different views than yours.
And for the sake of keeping on track, you didn't rebuke my point of glorifying aesthetics vs. glorifying the spirit of music. If aesthetics are what's important to you, then yeah, bands like Deathspell Omega, Agalloch and Ceremonial Castings will appeal to you. How do you feel that these artists compare to the black metal classics ,and how are they a good thing? How are they not exactly like what ruined all other underground genres before BM? They just aren't as effectual.
@anchower
Honestly I don't like her voice too. But at least she can play guitar, bass and drums. If you like her, then feel free to check out two more videos made by me and dedicated to her ("Eternal War" and "Wolven Hatred").
@deluge71 Some feel that discussing things is a better alternative to an "anything goes" mindset. Perhaps we should all just chill out and do nothing.
I'd argue, that despite fitting more with my political ideologies, I'd argue that RA fits BM less than NS. I've always view anarchism as a positive philosophy and black metal as musical genre that embraces all that is negative. Black metal is hatred, anarchy is love.
Also, while you can say that some "old world Pagan culture" embraced gender equality its wrong to imply that it all did. Rome, after all, was pagan far longer than it was Christian. (Continued below.)
who says black metal has to be defined by hate to uphold a fashy aesthetic.
I would argue that religion and fascism are both very much "natural". If the former wasn't, mankind would not have had gods since his intellect could form the concept. If the later wasn't, you would not have animals that form patriarchal societies.
What sets man above all animals is our ability to transcend our natural urge.
Hail from Serbia \m/
Panopticon and Мракобесие sound awesome!
I'm a communist and I love black metal. And I have to agree that RABM is quite lacking and stupid. Some NSBM bands are not political in their lyrics, and because of that, I listen to some of them. This however, is overly political and more like anarcho-punks meet black metal, which is a nasty combination. Black metal, should be Satanic/Pagan, anti-religious, and apolitical. It should stay that way.
@BlacKronstadt @WALOKEINELUSTful It's trve that Profecium was the first RABM band, but i think that was Iskra the band that massified the RABM message
Это дерьмо действительно хорошо. Mad уважения. Пожалуйста, не против, что я саркастически имя пользователя;)
One could have expected this, if there is NSBM, then there will be RABM. Although i think the NSBM scene is more agressive and thus matching the BM-scene more. But i don't care if you're nazi or anarchist, it's the music that counts.
Are you seriously thinking that I'm interested in your moronic opinion about RABM scene? Your comment have got exactly such kind of answer that it deserve.
timebomb is not BM, Iskra is not BM, Radioskugga is not BM, FNI is not BM...cant be bothered with the rest. I AM an Anarchist, love BM and I hate Communism, its the enemy of anarchism. Read up on political theory and history and you will see why. This vid gets half a star for trying.
And what was Rome? To this day, it serves as a model for the patriarchy. While the idea of oppressed Pagans rebelling against tyrannical Catholics certainly fulfill a certain romantic ideal, it is far from the truth.
The issue lies not in religion, but in the very nature of man itself; we are animals by our nature and seek to fulfill only our base urges, even if its at the expense of others.
Why do you think than many of the founding anarchist thinkers considered it the highest IDEAL?
2, 3, 4, 6, 8, 10
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@14SpartanSupremacy88 Was Athens fascist? No, because in Athens flourished philosophy, sciences, literature and democracy. Did contributed Sparta anything to the world? No.
I think that desire for freedom, of individual opinion is something that is very much in common with the revolutionary zeal of the left and so I very much see black metal as being a legitimate vehicle for expression of left leaning ideas.
Look at a band like Samael, their lyrics are very much centered around being open to new ideas and avoiding the formation of narrow opinions so to see someone with Samael in their username espousing such thoughts makes me a little sad.
@gorfaf88 I don't discuss because my level of English is basic.
@14Wolv88 One of your comrades has fallen!!
...сказал человек, слушающий Каловрат и Aryan Art.
@LordAcheron92 Agreed - most BM since the mid-90's is mundane trash because bands try to imitate an aesthetic instead of using it to compliment their art. Fuck the black metal "warrior" kids who can barely manage to hold a job or function at all in society, but think howling blasphemy somehow makes them part of an elite.
My point is that this approach to music (glorifying aesthetic vs. glorifying spirit) extends into this sub-genre, and as far as I have seen, dominates it entirely.
@MrIKILLFASCISTS Strains? i dont understand exactly what you mean. Am I an Anarchist, yes, deep in my heart and soul Anarchist ideology runs deep. Anarchism is more akin to a philosophy and religion(dare i say it) as much as a political stance. Its use as a verb I somewhat reject. Im also an eco-warroir,friend of the poor and underdog and court jester. Its important to keep a sense of humour about these things. And i didnt mean any offence. Sorry if you took it that way. Peace
@1norwood1 I was under the impression that April 12 was the beginning of a civil war, not a globalized national government pretending to know what's best and snuffing out citizen's who aren't so sure. Am I wrong?
I'd argue that adding such a binary dogma is only a means of stunting something. However, trying to argue that metal represents populist and modernist agendas is in err. Unless you're referring to power metal, that is.
I am interested in how you feel nihilism promotes leftism.
@gorfaf88 national socialist reggae?
i could make fun of that comment so many times, its unbelivable
what is rabm exactly?
I know I'm 12 years late, but it stands for Red Anarchist Black Metal
@WALOKEINELUSTful actually, Sparta saved athen's ass during the Persian war, before the classical period. So yes, we can say Sparta contributed to the survival of the Hellenic world.
@subataxia86 musically irrelevant because it fails to meet your subjective opinion, please, now who is the person being objective. It takes a lot more integrity to be willing to stand up and espouse an ideal then it does to project an image of detached cynicism.
@WALOKEINELUSTful black metalrocks
@subataxia86 Nihilism look at the situationist movement and the large influence Nietzsche had on the Frankfurt School etc.
As for the rest I think it's quite clear we disagree here it has nothing to do with populism and I think that by trying to argue as such you are willfully distorting the argument. You argued that black metal was conceptually opposed to leftist ideas I demonstrated that it wasn't...
@MrIKILLFASCISTS Regardless of Vargs Politikks, Burzum is fuckin cool. I dont believe that guy fully understands who he is anyway.
@subataxia86 What are you talking about, and who is "hipster" here? Hipster movement is all about elitism, and RABM is against any elitism (and pretentious elitists like you in particular). It IS black metal, no matter if you like it or not.
Iskra is more like a Blackened Crust band than a Black Metal band...
Influence a libertarian why he should go Left.
libertarian is originally a left term ironically
The Electrocist term piracy has reached another level
dierks67 that's a weak ass semantic. Piracy today vs "yo ho ho" piracy back then still carry the definition "to rob or steal" which is something that is done in both usages. FOH lol
The way you feel about the state also holds for private property. No one has a legitimate claim to absolute power over anyone or anything. Read Proudhon.
Capitalism can never exist without the use of a state entity
I don’t really consider myself to be on either extreme of the political spectrum (but have an interest in them) but love listening to different kinds of black metal. Some of this is good shit!
@subataxia86 the old CCCP reference, original. What about all the communist killed in the Shanghai massacre etc history reveals the faults of all people on all sides.
Misanthropy is one product of alienation, which Marx had a lot to say on. Also Nihilism which is another common theme of black metal has had a profound influence on left thought.
it has nothing to do with a made up history of BM. Trying to imposing arbitrary limits as to what does and doesn't belong in BM is counter to the genre.
Top bom d++++.
Q linda la chica del 8:41
@LordAcheron92 All that really matters is the music. When a specific ideology becomes a point to the band, that ego instantly becomes more important than the music itself. Furthermore, music is an artist's way of communicating to the listener. Any underlying philosophy an artist has is inherent in their music. This is Philosophy 101. Modernized music is a cancer.
Unblack, RSBM, NSBM - all ARE NOT black metal, they're just marketed and dressed up like it. My reference point? The founders..
@WALOKEINELUSTful Thet were'nt too influential, but they were the first black metal band with leftist lyrics.
im a christain but i love rabm..i consider my self a anacrho communist.
@1norwood1 Cynicism is idealistic in and of itself, and everywhere I've been, it's opposed more than any leftist system of belief. I'm not saying that, alone, makes it valid. I'm just replying to the "stand up and be tough" style of argument. Your movement would be a lot stronger if you spent less time pretending to be artists and more in the field as an agent of change. Attracting the lowest common denominator through easy to transcribe meaning ruins it.
What do you gather as my opinion?