Hip Hop Hates Mumble Rap
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Rappers like Lil Yachty, Lil Uzi Vert, Desiigner, and the rest of today's Mumble Rappers are being vilified by Hip Hop purists. Pete Rock has been the latest, most vocal opponent to the new Rap trend. His e-beef with Young Dolph and Lil Yachty has provided plenty of social media entertainment. But is this a fresh conversation? This week we dig into the Mumble Rap controversy.
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I wonder if Soulja boy knows that ice t didn't make fuck the police
antoine weldon. But Ice T rocked the fuck out of Cop Killer which was his baby then 90% of his movie & TV roles are playing cops.
Do you realize what that song was about? It was a protest song about racist cops systematically profiling, beating, and imprisoning black people.
A surefire way to get less racist cops targeting black people is to have more black cops.
And it's not even the case that 90% of his roles are cops, just his some of his most notable roles have been. He's been in dozens of movies not portraying cops.
Tupac played a cop too & he hated cops as well. Just cuz they played a cop on a show or in a movie doesn't make them less real or am I wrong? Look at rick ross he stole his whole gangsta image from a real og and he was actually a C.O. & ganstas still bumpin his shit while trappin n doin drive bys
antoine weldon I notice that lol...
through yourlover but it's a completely different song and ice t still didn't write fuck the police
og Maco look like a black solid snake from Metal Gear
punished maco
He lost his eye lmao
LOOOOOOL
still hasnt found it?
omfg golden comment
Where Soulja boy rn? What is his legacy? You can see that Ice T was right.
I been thinking that the whole time
BranX GD soulja boy was essentially a one hit wonder. yachty has a few hits at least.
Dante Silano still may end up seeing the same story. I see all these guys eventually falling off into irrelevance like Bobby shmurda or young thug
Dante Silano what happened with Soulja Boy will happen to Yatchy. If you don't know where you come from, you will not know where to go.
Bobby's in jail, you can't say he's fallen off, he's just not around to make music
Souilja deadass thinks ice-t was in NWA don't kill me/
He is brainless person
He definitely mixed up Cop killer and Fuck the police.
😵🤦🏻😩
Say what you want but it takes a whole lot more talent and effort to rap like Nas, Eminem, Jay-Z, etc. You can pull a song out of your ass and mumble your way to a hit now. Its not the Hip Hop that I admired growing up.
MindYour Business just like panda lmao
fuck Jay z but yea I get what your saying
DJ FL1 to bad that new game rap is garbage the rappers will always be the best and although i liked paper trails and that was made this year i see no other songs in modern hip-hop of the same quality
It's not even the words that are catching people's attention, it's the beats and only the beats. Early hip hop you could sing along with, and you were captured by the message in the music. Today's hip hop is only relevant because of the beats. Back in the day if you mumbled, your mom would look at you ans ask you what you said and that's the whole point of it, no fucking body understood what the hell was said. Now try to sing along with it, ain't happening. To this very day I can still sing along with rap/hip hop music from the 80's and 90's, because we know the words. Eminem, uses words, and can take down any mumble rapper, and even Soulja boy. No rapper today stands a chance against Eminem.
MindYour Business wtf are u talking about its two diffrent errors this new generation prefers mumble raps what bad about that we all have our diffrent opinions
If Pete Rock says your WACK your WACK point Blank.
*you're
Yup.
no not rly
Mrpaulojorge97 L for LIIFE
Largepro21 Your name starts with an L bro lmao
I didn't know mumble rap was a thing I thought they just sucked at rapping or were too lazy to actually say words.
+magusat999 don't be putting that mumble bull shit on the south lol they sound like they got a dick in they mouth
true
Sean Hru same
Sean Hru Those were my thoughts exactly when I started to hear it more on the radio, I stopped listening to most of the new stuff, I started looking for other rappers & underground hip hop to listen to, I listen to Tupac, Bone Thugs, DJ Quik, Kurupt, West Side Connection, Nate Dogg, Snoop Dogg, 36 Mafia, Lord Infamous, Mack 10, Ice Cube, MED, De la Soul, Common, the foreign exchange, Murs, Pete Rock, Rapper Big Pooh, and so many more to discover. I just sucks what hip hop and rap turned into nowadays garbage lyrics and untalented rappers( not all the new artists are bad but I think most are)
Sean Hru couldn't agree more
"F The Police" was written by Ice Cube and made for N.W.A, not Ice T.
That dude needed to get his facts straight.
When it comes to mumble rap, no one cares about the lame ass lyrics, its all about the beat in the end.
That Dude Yeah that's why everyone says mumble rappers have no talent. Cause according to you its all about the beat. So it's the producers that should be getting all the credit
boo hoo
That Dude, respectfully, the beats are just as bad as the lyrical nothingness that comes out of their mouths. I enjoying listening to anything that moves my soul. Anything that has balance & vibrates at a high level, whether it be Classical, Rock, Country, Salsa, R & B to Hip Hop/Rap music. Whatever! The vibrations that comes from music must resonate off of my body & make me feel good ,& it must move my soul. I have to say, over all, the music today is horrific & this especially includes Hip Hop/Rap. It simply doesn't move my soul much at all, lyrically or vibrationally.
Today's Hip Hop/Rap music is as good for you & real as McDonald's is good for you nutritionally & as real as real food. It's simply bad for you, & McDonald's isn't even considered real food. But the younger generation isn't totally aware of this because they only know what they know. Anyway, I hope the younger generation can appreciate my analogy & process what I said to make sense of what's really happening.
Hip Hop is arguably the most powerful & most influential culture in our modern history. To see it first hand, being born & raised in NYC & experiencing it before the rest of the world did, & to see where it's gone now, it's so disappointing & sad. I can honestly say, I can not blame Pete Rock & Ice T for feeling the way that they do simply because in the Golden era & height of the Hip Hop culture, they both were on the top of that pinnacle.
Btw, every time I have eaten McDonald's I always gotten sick! ;-)
💯. It's not about the content it's the vibe you get from the track. It's about enjoying the sound not just listening because you're tryna hear some deeper intellectual bars 24/7.
Right... that's true -- and that music always existed. Do you not remember Sipping on Sizzerp, or Money Cash Hoes? And even those songs, while they sounded good, and weren't full of deep intellectual bars, they were full of INTELLIGENT RHYMES. The people who made those songs ALSO made deep intellectual tracks -- Soulja Boy evaporated ALREADY -- hasn't released anything in 5 years, he only came out 8 years ago.
You can have songs that sound good, and you can have songs where you tell a story or make a point, speaking a message. A song that sounds good doesn't have mumbling in it, nor is it just repetitive repeating of the same bar. There has to be a progression for it to sound good, Superman was a short hook played for 4 minutes straight, how could that "sound good"? It just doesn't. You're just trying to defend some shit you're ignorant about, and I get it -- you're a young blood who first dipped his toes in this trash music -- explore a bit, because there are plenty acts around that are in the same age bracket as you that don't make trash fucking music.
Music is primarily a way to help people cope -- it's a way to spread a message to help people stay uplifted through hard times -- and I'm sorry none of the shit you're talking about does that for anybody, so it gets played for a month and retired. Nobody is going to be listening to Soulja Boy NOW, let alone 10 years from now, while people are still bumping out to Nas/Tupac/Mob Deep/Bone Thugs.... You know why? Because their songs HAD FEELING, the same that you claim about the music you listen to now -- but you know what else it had? STAYING POWER, BECAUSE WHILE THEY SOUNDED GOOD, THEY ALSO HAD A MESSAGE.
Feel free to buy McDonald's, I'll be sitting at a real restaurant. Because that's what mumble rap is, it's the fast food of the rap industry, it's not even close to the best, even if it's popular -- it's popular because people are lazy, plain and simple.
Q:why did the mumble rapper go to jail?
A: because he was looking for "bars"
Frederick Babineaux oooohhhhh😱
Frederick Babineaux 😂
yo bro you are real shit hail to our hero.....😂😂
That genuinely made me laugh😂
zing
Tupac said it best "rap can do whatever it wants to stay relevant but hip hop has to stay true to its core" there will always be mc's out there that care about the lyrics more than the beat.
MMA Warfare it's just too bad none of them are still relevant these days (It's a GD shame)! That black broke ass Jack Sparrow is right....you don't have to listen to the OGs, but just respect the fact that without the OGs and their inspiration they would just be another statistic and not be in front of the camera talking about this bullshit that's called rap these days.
MMA Warfare Murs says it like it is
Their beats aren't even that good, either!
MMA Warfare
Only problem is that these new niggas that can't spit for shit are the new faces of Hip Hop. You look up Hip Hop, you get shit like uze vert, yachty and designer and shit
Wet Don thats a load of crap
I love it when young kids rip on older people. Just keep getting up every morning, you'll get old too and it happens fast
Eric 555 exactly. time flies quik once you're in your 20"s. before you know you it, 20 years will have gone by.
Tbh it kinda happened to Eminem, he made fun of benzino for a 7 year difference but then became 49
Eric555 young kids.GOD willing you get old.
@@shady8045 I don’t think the main issue in that case was age. And to be fair, Eminem did not start it. Benzino had problems with Em for being white and successful. He was constantly picking on Em for attention and self promotion. Eminem pointed out he was old in one song, in a contexts that at your age you still suck and nothing for the real lyricists, so it will never happen for you. It was more of the “you missed your shot” kinda thing. Eminem always gave respect to other older rappers. They were his heroes. He always give credit to those who came before him, new all the classics and he was the student of the game. So I don’t agree with this particular example.
Exactly. In the blink of an eye.
I hate Soulja Boy even more after seeing this. Ice-T is a legend.
MSH Tell me about it
and he got him confused with ice cube, he thinks ice t made fuck the police? try again son!
MN Schlatz he might've made cop killer, but that was with his rock group
he did make a song fuck the police
Brittany Nieman no he didn't he made cop killer
I hate that mumble rap shit bruh
I'm wit you there mumble rap is the worst.
check mine then cz i dont mumble
+Andrew26101 check mine mane
If yall wanna hear some real rap, Look up Isaiah Rashad. the guy can spit! listen and buy his album too.
glad the dude said Isaiah rashad about real music
Ha ha, 20 years from now Soulja Boy will be getting dissed hard by some younger rapper calling his shit weak.
Like Soulja Boy will be at all relevant in 20 years, lmao
nigga he ain't relevant now tf
who is soulja boy
LOL, You don't have to wait for 20 years, Soulja Boy gets dissed from the youth right now. A matter of fact I've Heard some youths calling him old.
InfiniteAnathesis Damn!
My problem with mumble is that it perpetuates laziness and if you put 0 effort in something you will still be rewarded. It shows newer artists that if you are criticized than its just a hater or an "old head." It gives them an excuse not to try pushing the bar in rap.but rather now, they will make fun of you if you try and be lyrical. The fact that you now have to distinguish between lyrical rap and mumble rap is absurd. Rap by definition has lyrics laid out in a certain way. Mumble by definition isn't rap so why do people allow them to call thier music Rap. I don't call Linkin Park heavy metal. Associating mumble with rap only proves the people that say rap takes no effort right.
Mumble rappers work really fucking hard to fatass
ColdFusionNinja I can’t agree with you more, a lot of mumble rappers or fans say that if you prefer more of that lyrical style of rap then you’re an old head but what they don’t know is that the music they listen to is also old with the influence of MJG and 8Ball, the 808s, Bone-Thugs etc, the fashion and sound now may be a lil different but it’s the same thing still. So realistically, they need to cut down the ignorance and stop using that term for a defense because the old and new lyrical rappers put more effort, originality, and heart in their music more than most of other people’s favorite rappers.
Omg thank you
@@lj8846 lemme guess, another kid who bumps Lil Xan, Pump, 6ix9ine, and Smokepurpp in their dad's car
Mumble rap is for an music artist who has no lyrical rhyming skills at all. So they have to make up words, put slurs to them, or create new slang words to use in order to sound quote on qoute "cool" or "tight work". The Migos are a prime example they say stuff like "Bando, ok play the Banjo, rip and flip the Draco clip, and I don't want no Mo-Mo" in rap bar. It's corny and stupid azz fluxx but sound smooth and rhymes. I swear to God any other rappers try to do what these Mumble rappers do they're going to sound wack ass hell. The Amigos can actually get away with it because it's listenable coming from them. But everyone can't make it sound right like the Amigos though. In other words The Amigos are The only new generation rappers that can collaborate and pretty much sound good with any rapper nowadays. They could make a nice song with Snoop or 50 Cent. I can picture Snoop and Migos making a song together called "Ego Trippin'". I can see them getting with 50 Cent and making something like "Yo Get The Draco"
Soulja's forehead is bigger than his career
Alex.2001 bam!
Alex.2001 😝😝😝
I'm saying right?? That nigga was corny and full of gimmicks then and now. Bow wow would probably eat his ass on the mic.
Absolutely savage
Also I would like to take this opportunity to say I have never heard the Soulja Boy song, ever.
Alex.2001 what career
You can polish a turd all you want. Give it a nice beat and a catchy hook, but at the end of the day its still shit.
Couldn't have said it better my self, 100% agreed.
D1C3M4Nx PREACH!!!
ROCKBAND But objectively speaking, the quality of 80s and 90s rap far outweighs modern (c)rap.
💯 this fake ass rap mumble bullshit given my god damn ears fucking cancer man
on what basis is that objective lmao
This dude looks like one of the guys who hosts a team backpack cypher.
I hosted two teambackpack cyphers. The one with Aqualeo and Irv Da Phenom. Then the one with Onyx and sincerely collins
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+HipHopDX it's about 5 minutes in!
The amount of disrespect shown by younger "rappers" towards their "forefathers" really tells me something about the hip hop/rap industry.
I come from the metal community and 99% of all metal bands that are new today STILL show love and respect for the beginning metal bands of the early '70's like Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Deep Purple and so on. They all recognize where their sound comes from originally.
It's sad to see these young rappers disrespect the OG's.
Might be the reason why Ice T is in the metal band BodyCount now.
This is a reflection of the black community. This is why young black men continue to get shot down in streets black women March even though they don't like us black women with black women March and nothing gets resolved
How are they gonna respect the OGs when they’re calling them wack
A guy with subs do you respect your father when he calls you wack. Hell ya lucky none of these new guys don’t get a Mac access the face from the old rappers
...word? :P
i agree
Mumble rap is bullshit, it's just an excuse to have people who don't know how to rap gain millions of dollars
Jaden Harrison TV I still dig it
Don't you know Jazz, blues & funk artist back in the day were saying the now Pioneers of hip hop were also making shit talentedless garbage. Hip hop when it was coming out wasn't considered real music no insruments or vocal talent. They thought it was just fast ass talking. History is doomed to repeat itself when it is forgotten or not studied.
+through yourlover All new genres get dissed when first starting. Hip Hop was perceived to be as "rapping fast" but people who actually knew it, know that it is about song writing. Rock wasn't considered real music when it first started? These days people such as Kendrick and Mac Miller make Jazz/Funk/Blues influenced Hip Hop. These mumble rappers just get a trap beat from a trash producer, pull some lyrics from their arse in 5 minutes then mumble so it sounds like a flow. It's ruining the art of hip hop.
Savate Gaming it's a hustle. the greatest one ever. people are so stupid lol they eating it up.
the MVPs are the producers and they get no fucking love. these rappers are cookie cutter. sub in anybody and the songs would still hit. Cuz the beat is what people listen to it for. put these fools on an old big L track and watch them flounder
well that problem is that keep going lower from of art. keep going like this people some day with happy with noise like a fan.
Is nobody annoyed that Soulja Boi confused Ice T for Ice Cube?
i find it pretty funny
"fuck the police" lmfao
He ain't confuse them he had a song called fuck the police too but it was a corny rock song
it was cop killa.
he didn't really confused like he got everything else right except for one thing
Ice T didn't make Fuck the Police 😑
It just goes to show you the lack of musical history and respect these young kids have for the industry. He just made himself look like a complete fool. IceT has been successful in both music, film, and TV...as for Soldier Boy...enjoy your little 5 minutes of fame....it's probably already over.
mcbrideart Soulja boy should've realized he fell off when he ended up on love and hip hop with the rest of the unknowns. And these muhfuckas with this auto tune oughta just say "Shout out to T-Pain for auto tune" in every song because they caused him to fall off like that. Cause yeah T-Pain used auto tune but he could actually sing with his voice and he used to put out hit after hit on the radio. Rap/Hip Hop is literally going south with no possibility of turning back.
LaShawn James to be fair he did make a song called cop killer. but that's not a rap song. it's a song put out through his metal band.
And he damn sure wasn't making music at 35
but he did make a song call cop killa
4:30 Kanye is the last person to be talking about oldheads using samples in music.
Stepz97 • 3 words: through the wire ... That should shut Kenya mouth up ..
LOL ... Those who get it thumbs up ... I know thats messed up but it proves a point went he sampled the hell out of everything and sped it up ... Hence overnight celebrity ... Next time think before you speak Kenya
that boy kanye contradicts himself all the time
Look at kanye's new music -i love it - with pump ... He aint oldhead rapper
@@ExileRecordsNZ Have you listened to Kids See Ghosts? Best rap album of 2018
@@matthewkendall8592 pretty good stuff actually
Mumble rappers sound like they tried for the X Factor and failed at the audition stage.
Ricky like little t
Ricky so true
LMFAO at least ice t is still relevant,where the fuck is soulja boy.
true, but i would say Ice T had a longer run that Soulja boy.
soulja boy been putting out music Tha fuck yall at?
Lol
fk soulja boy "music"
+tostinos pizza putting out music doesnt make you relevant, dumbass LMAO
Soulja boy thought Ice-T created "Fuck the Police"
Java Boy fuck soulja boy
No he made cop killer by Body Count
John .Morgan and no lives matter
I cant defend mumble rap, its so bad.
Back in the day, even people who didnt like rap liked the beats.
Now even the beats are trash.
The raps are weak, the and the voices are even weaker. They all sound like little kids with macbooks.
In mumble rap what the fuck are they saying? Shit they rap about doesn't make sense.
Word
Chickenwomp stfu clown
Chickenwomp this trappy crap all sounds the same, I myself can make good trap beats and I got no skill 😂👌🏻
i feel like everybody here is 12 years old fightin and shit dont you understand everybody has their taste and you cant change that shit and there always is something for everyone
The beauty about rap was the way words and rhymes could be turned into a poetic cry of pain and struggle due to oppression, however its the 21st century and they ran out of relevant shit to rap about so they rap about how much leftover money and drugs they have and their expensive clothing and cars, thats why this garbage mumble rap has no relevance.
djfootfetish fursona man that was the golden Era of hip hop! the best rappers was out in the 90s
djfootfetish fursona not all 80s but rakim,Big daddy cane,krs1,public enemy,SLICK RICK! 2SHORT! ICE AND NWA STARTED THAT GANGSTA RAP SHIT AND HAD A IMPACT ON THE WORLD ONE WY OR THE OTHER! SO YEAH THE 8OS WAS REAL AND INFLUENTIAL IN MANY WAYS! #fact
pandaland1 word !
pandaland1 there is still a struggle, still injustice and the stupidity in politics such as this election that is going on. there is a lot of things to rap about, but the new generation in my opinion is lazy and getting rich quick is far more important then making a stand.
Mumble rap is running the game right now nigga
I feel like the problem is rooted at how much hip hop has changed. If you look at songs by Lil Yachty or Future and compare it to Biggie, Nas, Outkast, or similar artists, the music doesn't even sound like it would ever be in the same genre. I feel like hip hop has strayed too far from its roots. Kanye's MBDTF was a good example of how somebody can bring rap into a new style without totally abandoning the elements that made rap what it was.
It's not a theory....its actually the truth...it didn't start out as a thought & intention 2 make a shitty genre....Corporate got involved...fans turned rapper produces material that gets a lot of attention from other fans, corporate labels notices it the attention, puts money behind the music, young idiot rapper becomes famous & other fans follow the trend.. it's a cycle in self-created genre. That's what happened. Trust me, I know. I've seen the changes over the years, so many different styles & sub-genre.
consider this, rap in the early/mid 80s sounds nothing like rap mid/late 90s... would you say the same about those eras or is there a bias?
KlvnDxxminique of course there's a bias. He's comparing great wordsmiths to great musicians. How about comparing popular lyricists today to popular lyricists in the 90s. Kendrick Lamar and Nas is a much fairer comparison. Don't cherry pick.
KlvnDxxminique That is true but 90s hip hop did retain quite a few elements from its predecessors in the 80s
Justin Crawford not all of it though. Think about what evolution of hip hop means. Presenting new ideas in new ways. The newer ideas are just stepping stones to what I think is a better future for hip hop. Not so much mumble rap...but the variety is nice.
I'm 16 bruh I fucking hate mumble rap don't put that to my generation bro I don't rock to that bullshit. maybe someone does and let them but if all rap turns to sound like this. we should arrange a funeral
no one cares
fuk up bitch
+Rocky Jnr you cant Handel the truth about shit you hear
Bichar Hamid bruh i fucks with you 😂😂😂😂.. don't worry this mumble rap is just. a popular verson if trill rap or trapt rap... I'm glad you are expose to good music.. just blame the radio for making it only rap Thats mostly played on local radio.. just switch to satellite radio and trust me you'll hear what the other better music and less mumble rap..
i approve your post and don't worry let the mainstream get trashed out.. the hidden gems rappers you'll have to find them.. 😊
Stop being so 3DGY
When Prodigy was 19, Mobb Deep drop a classic album The Infamous. Compare these album to any mumble rappers work. Age is not an excuse.
Tupac work was all under 25
Nas dropped another classic, Illmatic, at the same age... age is not an excuse!
Mentioning Mobb Deep and mumble rap in the same sentence in blasphemy.
@@vicstevensn2684 He's just saying how mumble rappers can never be as good as Mobb Deep.
Just clowning 😆 in no lifetime is mumble rap even close to lyricism.
This guy looks like a black Simpsons character xd
Ha!
Reiroms he reminds me of Rick from Rick and Morty but for hip hop heads
Jokwin K.O.D. Holy shit...
He kinda looks like Black Sideshow Bob.
Blake Geometrio sideshow bob?
Honestly all this rappers are wack future, lip boat, lil uzi, and designer you can't even understand what these dudes are saying
Angel medrano Lil Yachty is the homie
Angel medrano its trap mixed with hip hop. You're not supposed to understand. Thats why i love new gen hip hop like listen to lil uzi verts money longer or pa or qs
This channel is dead Try again NEVER FTW I'm not supposed to understand what I'm listening to? Smh
don't matter if you understand, ain't no real meaning to the lyrics... no real shit, no preaching about struggle, no 'keep ya head up', no 'fuck the police', no meaning behind what's being said... just a bunch of drugs, bitches and money...
+Jarrod Ingram you're an idiot
But Soulja is not a mumble rapper. He's a bubble gum rapper, but at least we can hear what he says. Also, let's not get mad at the rappers for doing their thing. We should be disappointed at the fans that financially support these rappers. But then again, we should have expected this. Pure hip hop was NEVER compatible with corporate profiteering. Here's the equation: Pure Hip Hop + Corporate Greed = Devolution of Culture. As long as cats know they can flip an easy profit by spitting garbage onto dope beats, this will always be a problem.
It's appealing to the lowest common denominator. All the rap fans hate The Man, without even realizing they're lining The Man's pocket, right after he gets his balls massaged by Kanye and Drake.
thtas what i alwayass say, im not mad at thjem for being retarded, im mad at the deaf peole who bu their shit
you are wrong but partially right. Yes the music industry wants easy money from prospecting new artists and artists want financial security and are willing to sell out. The problem with most artists now a days is if they choose the high road then they wont have it easy, they wont get immediate success and their music isnt going to be widely appreciated and the reason why this happens is because they dont know how to network and market their music, there have been many self publishing artists that are now wealthy who knew how to network, market and use any other skill or knowledge to befit them in the long run but not every successful artist was instantaneously rich in a short amount of time. Bottom line is most modern hip hop artists want money,fame and are willing to cut corners and get it as soon as possible..somthing that normally takes time and investment to naturally attain is significantly reduced, in turn the music industry wants the same thing, every merchant needs a mule...so it was never a matter of corporate fat cats stealing hip hop like the grinch before christmas, hip hop artists were too dumb to begin with and had to always rely on everyone else for their success.
no point in hating a dog because he enjoys dog food and table scraps. High quality cuisine is not something a dog understands.
right
Mumble rap is the death of hip hop
stop it
@Gi-Gi-Gi-Gia Camole Except he's right. Mumble rap is fucking trash.
@@chocolatethunder-iy9wv no
@@XboxIssues I used to hate mumble rap but it grew on me. It's the new wave and it's here to stay. You gotta keep up
@@assmoney3442 🤡
you can't talk about this & not emphasize Future. he is the one that made this popular
I know right
I have heard people say it was lil Wayne and T-pain that really influenced futures style.
@soulstatement lil wayne talks about codeine & T-Pain uses autotune. future was out over 10 years, but he is the only one that mumbled so much.
future was the originator of it, he should get respect not all these biting ass nigga
that's not true at all future doesn't mumble he created a rythm and shiny as rappers mumbled in that rythm
As a weird, 'old head' mexican who thinks yatchy has a chip on his shoulder, let the man weird me out. That's what it's all about. Right? Be exciting or be annoying but just please don't be the same. You annoy me, but keep doin you yatchy.
W
not really... it is about the flow and the beat.....
good to hear someone that isnt dick riding one side, this whole mumble rap vs old school is something that just happens with art. It's like trying to compare jazz with rock or van gogh with warhol, you can't compare the two because they're 2 different styles of music
I'm so glad I grew up with 90s and early 2000s hip hop
Scott Fennell luckkkky
Scott Fennell me too
Im growing up in the wrong generation xD all my friends listen to Kanye, Drake and Young Thug when Im listening to Wu Tang, Nas, Biggie, Tribe Called Quest, Cypress Hill and Mf Doom
I fuck with Freddie Gibbs and Joey Badass heavy tho
+Gabriel Vlogs. I listen to XXXTENTACION AND ski mask but also love 90s rap. Why can't we have peace between both generations.
I admit I had a brief stint in my life when I sh!tted on mumble rap/autotune, etc. I'm 43 and grew up in and witness some great Hip-Hop. As time goes on you put things in proper perspective, and I won't say I hate today's rap music or rappers...or that it's all garbage or trash compared to what I came up on. I'll just say it's not for my consumption. Let the young people enjoy their time/era. We had ours. I bang The Low End Theory, Death Certificate, Illmatic, etc. to this day and I'm good with that.
I'm late to the party but this comment should have gotten more likes
Why is everyone acting like they don't understand? No one is hating on the newcomers because they are young, and their sound is new. Its because the work isn't there. These niggas recycle the same sounding beats, copy each other, have the same exact subjects with no deviation. And most important of all...THEY CAN'T RAP. That is literally the foundation to being a rapper, you have to have lyrics, or at least a unique style. Most of these new swag "rappers" have none. People aren't hating on the new generation of rappers. We have Cole, Krit, lupe, hopsin, and dozens more who understand lyricism. The new rap game Is like someone who can't play the guitar, or drums, has shitty vocals, and knows nothing about the legends, but still calls himself a rocker. Rock fans would not tolerate that shit.
True, I mean people have different taste and all but rappers like Yachty will probably be forgotten and only brought up for nostalgia.
don't forget Kendrick Lamar, he's pretty good too!
tech n9ne good to
I'm not forgetting the Amazing lyrical rappers with strong messages. I did not mention them because as good as they may be, they account for about 3% of Hip Hop, and that was mainly back in the day. Nowadays the music is so base level, and filled with destructive messages, and kids have the easiest access to some of the most deplorable images imaginable.
You all know well before you write your rebuttal how this music, and the imagery therein effects the youth especially if the "artists" look and sound like you and every Black man you know. That life is glorified, and co-signed making it appear to be ok. Kids from the suburbs pick up the music, and lifestyle and play with it like a toy. They put it down when its time to get serious.
A lot of Black kids are influenced by it and desire to live it because of it's acceptance in the community. Trap/rap Music however powerful, is not the single reason for the degradation... But it is not blameless.
Yung Draco No, I'm good
"Those who rap dope, get to stick around..." hit the nail on the head there. I mean ppl already forgot about Fetty Wap...
Skills equal longevity.
He coulnt stick aorund to SEE the whole picture
FOUL! Yellow Card
Cris Mike WHO THE FUCK forgot about Fetty wap ??? Fetty been goin hard
Future is the only one that might not get forgotten.
The Mumble Rap phase reminds me of the Gothic phase that took over Rock Music before it died, when Rock Music was still under the ownership of Black people it was soulful, then white kids called The Rolling Stones took it over, then the next generation made it cool to glorify drugs sex and alcohol, then next one made it cool to wear satanic makeup and burn the bible on stage, shortly after that Rock Music died, then the new white kids saw Eminem and jumped ship to Hip Hop, this is what happens when you silence the pioneers of the art-form, it will die eventually.
you said the realest shit ever....
All I can say is damn,
+HipHop DX give this guy the shirt bruh.
Real talk tho..
You saying its white people fault for Mumble rapping yet black people the only ones that listen to that
The thing that bothers me about these new rappers is the fact that they believe that they're immune to any and all criticism from anyone. When Pete Rock and Ice-T were coming up, hip hop was still mostly a culture and not necessarily the billion dollar industry it is now. They were there from the beginning and have seen it evolved over its life. Today's rappers see it mostly as a way to make money... and that's really it. The culture and history that developed from and with hip hop seems lost in today's generation. It's all about being gimmicky. In the late 80's and 90's, rappers actually cared about their style and flow. With Eric B. and Rakim dropping "Paid in Full", rappers wanted a smooth flow that also used smart wordplay and rhymes within rhymes. Yea, all Rakim did was just brag about himself, but he did it in a way that sounded genuine and actually sounded both intelligent and cool. With today's mumble rappers I don't see or hear the intelligence in their lyrics or flow. It sounds like a devolution.
And on another note, Kanye compared Souja Boy to Nas....?????? Really Kanye?!?!? Nas worked his ASS off in order to just release Illmatic! Soulja boy had CZcams and the social media! Nas had to spit guest verses on different songs before he was finally given the chance to record Illmatic, and he made sure that everyone of his songs on that album was dope! What did Soulja boy ever do?? Nothing. No thought provoking or intelligent lyrics seen or heard at all from him! Kanye should be apologizing for that shit (even though it's old as hell by now)!
Soulja Boy innovated the game. He paved the path for these new rappers coming up out from social media. Like nobody had ever done that before.
Kanye is shit anyway, his opinion doesnt mean anything when it comes to talking about rap.
Yeah and if it doesn't stop getting gimmicky the potential for some one truly gifted will be lost much like the music industry had done with group singers with all those shitty thrown together boy bands
Kanye was wrong comparing a great artist to a lame 1 hit wonder clown.Where the hell is Soulja Boy?????But Nas he's still here so words are important.The problem is the public has been duped by everything fast fast food fast cars and fast music.Without trying to be unique and diverse they just want to follow trends just to be famous for the heck of being famous.Thats the problem with mumble rap if we had more variety in Hip-hop like what we had in the 1980s and 90s we wouldn't be complaining so much.Thats just my opinion thumbs up on whoever agrees with me.
Mumble rap isnt going anywhere anytime soon, sadly. It's simple shit, easy to rap (Mumble) along with. And it's usually over a nice beat that bumps in clubs. It's prime ear food for a majority of our generation that doesn't care about actual meaning behind the lyrics. They just want to dance and party to it. You know it's blowing up if DJ Khaled, who knows what makes radio play, featured Future for his new songs hook.
Ordr6Tsix FUCK YOUR LYRICALLY BULLSHIT BITCH
I can tell you're a fan of the shit. Can you translate that please?
Get over it bro this the new generation generation of the young generation of the teens
I couldn't care less what y'all listen to. I don't fuck with the radio anyway. Everything can go illiterate mumblecore, Underground rap will always be around.
Shit, I agree. A lot of the same things are spammed in today's music and too much of it seems to be around to make it feel different. You have a plethora of different artists, but there's no real diversity to them. Lyrics normally make no coherent sense and I get annoyed and irritated even hearing the nonsense. The newest I get is Hopsin, and I stay where the art is refined like good wine. I normally stick around the Golden Age with artists like Big Punisher, Nas, DMX, The RZA, and Mobb Deep. If anyone makes a song remotely close to rap from when I was little, that would be nothing short of a miracle. Today's rap is basically either lyrics where you can hear the artist clearly but they make no sense or this bullshit mumbling idiocy, nothing but a decent beat or they sample something we know and love then ruin it, it kills my childhood. My best guess is none of these artists will be around in ten years and hopefully rap can return to the cradle of its roots.
ICE T was right we let soulja slide now look
Stole the words.. Ive been saying this!
He confused Ice-T with ice cube lol
ReturnOfPluto they can’t recite one lyric I bet and they call old school trash. How can you fucking call something trash when you haven’t even opened your fucking ears
These kids, "lil" this and that on the mumble rap trip have got to go! Real talent, genius lyricists, bring back Real Rap, raw talent bars, not mumbling over a beat.
Mike Shinoda Listen to him Pure Talent without the need to Curse , imo thats more talented
ReturnOfPluto true..
@@Countessa321 nah i’d rather just have the world end already at this point
"He's one of the most important voices of this generation. I stand by that."
This world is f**ked
Dude and it's sad because the shit that is out now is 1000x worse than Crank that Soja boy
nigga please
Nothing will be worse than the ringtone era of 05 to 09. This was recorded as the worst that rap had to offer.
You are living under a rock
next thing you know theres a fucking video of the guy saying "what is trap" like the guys said are you really under a damn rock my boy
crank that was pure shit, dont even try to downplay it, i would rather hear a shitty song by 21 savage or a chief keef than a minute long clip from a single soulja boy track.
Us older cats are allowed to state our opinions about rap bcuz we were there to watch our culture develope and blossom. To watch hip hop go in this mumble rap direction is disheartening. These lil yachty and lil whoevers are just not good rappers. Back in the days if you wasn't nice you couldn't touch the mic. Now it's not competitive lyrically. These wack ass corny rappers need to get beaten with a belt. Back in the days we called out Hammer and Vanilla Ice for wack lyrics too
amen brother
Hammer and Vanilla would kill today's rappers
Go listen to G Herbo : Ballin Like I'm Kobe he's the best rapper in my opinion born 95 and after.
+Pharaoh. It's other rappers that really talk about real shidd but this lil weird generation want the young thug, Uzi, yachty, desiigner. And I'm 20 lol I was raised around real og's.
Im sorry but there is no regulations in a genre of music let alone a culture. You must realize that hip hop and our society as a whole has become more accepting of people then ever before. And please everyone has the right to state their opinion not just you. Your not going to like everything but you don't have to hate on these guys for doing what they love to do. Its 2016 artist get influenced by all kinds of music one of Uzi's influences was Marilyn Manson completed left field from Hip Hop. If you want to show us "Real Hip Hop" then just show us you don't have to hate. Otherwise let the kids enjoy their music.
*Mumble rap - A sub genre of rap music that involves inaudible lyrics accompanied with over-annimated ad-libs and awkward silences between bars. Mainly played on mainstream radio and in urban nightclubs.*
“Real Music is gonna last......All that other bullshit is here today, gone tomorrow”
nah still the 90s rap is better.
sad very sad
mr.choklitart lost wtf
what just say it's kind sad the all
mr.choklitart lost what do u mean lol
i mean some of the 90's rap suck
i hope this mumble rap goes away quick
Mumble rap was fine before all other dumbasses ruin it
Me too
Unfortunately it won't happen
It's pretty much gone by now
It wont go away until more lyrical rap fans start listening to radio stations
And supporting
Independent lyrical rapper's like myself its so many mumble rap fans and rapper's out
Its just to hard for lyrical rapper's to be heard
It did
lmao compared Soulja boy to Nas
yeah Kanye is a joke...
You didn't get it even unborn niggaz know nas is better you just didn't get what kanye meant
at the time Soulja boy was though to be amazing, after a while he fell off
yeah kanye deserves the L's he taking for that statement
Evan Ducreay it's just his opinion tho
Hakar Doski Exactly and where is that Kanye dumbass now? nowhere to be seen... XD
'LAST LP I TRIED TO LIFT THE BLACK ARTISTS! BUT THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BLACK ARTISTS AND WACK ARTISTS!'
These young "rappers" don't need permission from the old ones...because they aren't even rappers! They cannot rap! They're mumbling some sounds while acting gangsta. The worst part is that they're not even interested in rhymes or beats.
Real talk!
Dotrund Gtfoh You Mumbling bitch
Dotrund proving the point, he's got a lot of words on this comment section, but its the same thing over and over and is really just mumbling under his breath at his elders
That is so true.
old rappers should be reaching out to young artists instead of dissing them.if they want lyricism back try to reach out to them.
"Bunch of words and ain't sayin' shit, I hate these rappers Especially the amateur eight week rappers Lil' whatever just another short bus rapper"
josuecuevas98 J.Cole
straight off of j cole
Short bus rappers 😂😂😂😂 that's a good one
I'm pretty sure lil whatever is taken now lmao
All of the fucking mumble rappers are the fucking same, switch Lil Yaghty for Lil Uzi, for Future, for Designer, for Fetty Wap for Young Thug, for any other, no matter who you listen to you still ain't going to understand shit.
England is my Gender I fW with Wap and future cuz some of their songs are catchy
England is my Gender just because they Mumble doesn't mean they're the same, they have different styles
England is my Gender
21
TBH I'm closer to Soulja Boys age and I rather hear Ice-T
Can't believe Kanye said that about Soulja lmao. He said it's the golden age for kids at the time. But everyone looks back at it like that song was dumb, you can't bump that today but you can always bump the chronic and nas, even gang Starr and there is a reason why you can play that shit over and over, it's some good shit, straight talent. Sick ass beats and lyrics.
Play that song at my funeral. Said no one ever. It'd be the funeral
Scott Mescudi I really like kanye but I can't deny that was dumb
Kanye is a fucking troll
I just binge watched all of your videos. it's been four hours since I've started. this is everything I want in music discussion videos. this fills the void that Anthony fantano's pretentiousness can't touch. I hope you continue making more man. it's refreshing
Django Brownstone that means a lot!!! Thank you 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
I'm 22 years old and I still fuck with 90s hiphop artists! This new mumbling shit is just arrogance at is finest. And soldier boy is 2 years older than me wtf?
Crazy to think souljas been around that long. Glad you appreciate golden era lyricism.
much props to you brother
Honestly, I couldn't tell you. He sent it to us without a title.
***** glad to see not all is lost. and not all the new guys are bad i mean anything that comes outta TDE is quality.
+HipHopDX Yeah that beat goes hard..damn
pac and biggie still alive none of these wack mfs wouldnt be on tv
Pac is still alive
thats a retarded comment, since, who watches tv anymore...lOL
No, they would've gotten out of their prime and would have given way for other new rappers. They're human beings, not gods.
@@imperator692 facts💯
i hate how many rules hip hop has man...no art form should have any. what's wrong with having melodies? what's wrong with making good choruses? why is that not "real" too compared to having great bars? i think it takes talent to do what these kids do, obviously not as much as someone who spends weeks writing a single verse, but still it takes talent. i think hip hop is in the best place it's ever been, pete rock is one of the absolute greats when it comes to producing but damn if you love hip hop you gotta know that you're not gonna like every single thing that comes from it, just like i'm sure he didn't like a lot of shit that came out in the early mid 90s like new jack swing and shit. you guys are making yacthy out like he's the one who had 11 grammy nominations or he's the one who went platinum with no features. he's literally just a niche rapper with a niche audience and there's nothing wrong with that.
Well said. Thank you for that.
NEW JACK SWING HAD SOUL AND FUNK YOU DON'T KNOW HIP HOP!
+Callum Brown emcees hates on it though. There was a lot of singing which wasn't valued in hip hop then. Rap was still staking it's legacy
So what it was more respected and had elements not trash hop heavy d big daddy kane were all swing and that is r&b to you can't test me with hip hop bro!
Callum Brown "It ain't no pop cause that sucks, and you can new jack swing on my nuts" - ice cube, The Wrong Nigga to Fuck With...apparently you don't know hip hop because if you did you would know why i brought it up...i like a lot of new jack swing joints from back then too btw
Mumble rap isn't music.
nick supreme its music just shouldnt even be in the rap genre at all should be classed as singing or some shit
Rap Maestro its not even singing. White noise sounds better then that shit.
Bruteforce Dj i dont even no what white noise is hahahah i dont think mumble raps good just other people enjoy it so it is some class of music me myself i hate the shit but you cant just say it aint music
Rap Maestro white noise is static, the sound from old tvs with no signal for example. Well yes that is true it is still technically music, but its a slap in the face for people that put effort into honing their skill and spending days perfecting their music. Where as these cunts get someone else to make the beats and they just say bullshit over it and claim it as their own. I know rappers as well use pre made loops for their music so i kind of contradict myself but the lyrics is their instrument and they are good at it.
Rap Maestro which is why im not acknowledging it as music because its fucking trash.
As a hip hop fan....this is sad to see. Mumble rap isn't even rap. Rhythm And Poetry Its just noise and foolery. Just goes to say the masses are not always right. *Switches back to 90's HipHop
With your opinion I'm interested in seeing what you'd get from my channel. I call it poetry but it's just concise lyricism. Let me kmow what you think if you have the time.
It's Ram music! 😂
People who make the argument like you are is what makes this shit so backwards. And yes, this shit is backwards. Back in the day, you had to look also, but then it was brought out in the open. GOOD fucking rap. You dig through the garbage to pull out something good. Nowadays the garbage pail is full of good shit, like you say, but everyone else is eating up all this trash. Why are you promoting that? Why are you ok with that? Why is everyone ok with that? Why isn't everyone reaching in and getting the good shit and leaving all this garbage right where it belongs. That's what The homie, Jacob means. And everyone trying to put it on a subject of youth vs. old. It's really not that. It's good vs. garbage. Most these "youths" only started using that excuse of "we're young stop hating" after it was given to them to use. You can tell when they say it. But tell them to give you an off the top example of the old shit that they're music stemmed from. Won't find it. Cause it comes from nothing. It's just a bunch of LITERAL commercial rap. The old rap stemmed from good music. Blues, soul, even country. They all told stories. Rap started like that. Even gangsta rap had a beginning middle and end. Sure there were some party shit, but even that gave you a beginning middle and end most times. Now niggas literally say the same shit in every song in every album, from every rapper's mouth. What's the real point of even going to the next song? What's the point of buying the next albulm? Seriously. it's the same non understandable shit. We obviously not insulting the good rappers that's trying to make it, but hating the people perpetuating the dumb shit. Whether it's the ones making it or the one's backing it up.
zachis1egend
lol not a good excuse for trash, though you are right that people like what they like. just sade that rappers rapping trash and most consumers are bottom feeders eating that shit. ehhh
Instead of mumble rap lets just call it turn up music
Here’s the problem with the entire mumble crap era that we’re in. It’s marketable to the ignorant. This crap is what’s being played in the stadiums the clubs and the radios like it’s a fad. It’s easy listening to the foolish. But at the same time people like easy listening and will go to it. Do you think someone will get hype in a stadium if they listened to ‘one mic’ from Nas or Bone thugs Crossroads? Plus we are in an age where ignorance is encouraged. It’s cool to be stupid. Why not be cool and stupid at the same time? This stuff is lyrical crack we are spiraling in this addiction and those victims are defending this addiction
Fire Stryker I agree. I listen to Twista or Bone when drinking Hen but my thing is there’s better content to do that with though. I wouldn’t mind listening to DMX or Lil Jon when I’m working out. I’ll ride to UGK or 8Ball and MJG. Not a Drake fan but dude killed Gold Roses and Money in the Grave.
@Fire Stryker Thats good I never knew Drake was diverse like that I need to listen to it.I heard the song he recorded with the late MJ and it was ok just felt like a bandwagon than previously good music.
Mumble rap sounds good to the ear but its probably the most ignorant unintelligent type of music ive ever heard. Mumble rap influences all the wrong things and there's no way i can support it
***** Thats where your wrong. Hip Hop has done alot of good. Hip Hop in the past and present has helped push political agendas to help African Americans. Of course you have the bad apples in the past that didnt add good to the culture and I dont support them either. This new wave of hip hop - barely considered hip hop- is no different.
***** i can understand where your coming from
if u wanna here something intelligent. read. a book stop looki g for music to help u with real life lessons llf
James Geterr I never looked towards music for life lessons
Xcel157 IT SUPPOSED TO ENTERTAIN YOU NOT EDUCATE YOU LMAOOO
As each generation of rappers appear on the surface, there will always be "bad" rappers and "good" rappers on it. The problem is see with this whole thing going on is that, we are paying to much attention to these "bad" rappers, complaining about they aren't doing, giving them more attention, while the "good" rappers are doing what we would love for these "bad" rappers to do but we aren't giving them as much attention as we would for these "bad" rappers. We should all just put our attention on finding more of these "good" rappers and give them praise for doing what we would love for these "bad" rappers to do, and give them rise to the horizon further more.
Great point.
people put so much energy into what they don't like. I honestly ignore and don't listen to what's not appealing to me.
Just like Pac said there's a lane for that style of rap
yup these hip hop snobs spend more time complaining about mumble rap than praising what they like
Definitely agree
Ppl that like ?HipHop just need to stop listening to radio. Stop supporting media & stream the real music you like
Agreed.
google.... Carlos Coy, sorry, not sorry..... "pre-teen rapist" actually fits way better
There is one big difference. The pioneers of rap created a new genre out of nothing, mumble rappers want to change a gerne to something completely different.
mumble rap ain't gonna have future
OG Maco is from Tokyo Ghoul now
half a w
so a V?
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Hip hop pirate
Reggie Zimmerman No A U
No, this argument is a case of whether people want to be able to hear words in their music or not. Rap is built on the precipice of lyricism. What separates Hip Hop from any other genre is the lyrics, and the sheer amount of lyrics used. It was also built on standing out and being different, making all this "style-biting" something else entirely. If you wanna do something different go ahead, but it isn't rap if it isn't rap.
Rap started on ''hip hop hippity hoppity hip hip rock tha party you don't stop alright bang bang boogie up jump the boogie'' type party shit you misguided piece of shit. Is that not rap to you as well? There was nothing lyrical about that, it was songs focusing on a certain attitude, groove, dancing, simple partying vibe which is what a lot of the music that forefronts the mainstream usually is, 'cept today different terminology is used like ''lit, banger'' music and the sound evolved far passed the funky/disco sounds, as it constantly evolves with every music genre. Even the 90's are gradually different than the 80's. Lyrics aren't and never were the end all, be all of hip hop, people who grew up listening to the late 80's and 90's are the onlly ones that think so, because their baised dumb fucks. In fact, DJ Shadow's Entroducing is one of the most acclaimed hip hop albums of all-time and the shit doesn't even have lyrics. If you want to listen to lyrical shit go ahead, you don't even gotta confine your dumb bias ass to the 90's, I can prolly name more elite spitters now than you know ever off the top of my head: Aesop Rock, Busdriver, Milo, Rejjie Snow, Stormzy, Skepta, Danny Brown, Earl Sweatshirt, Freddie Gibbs, Big KRIT, Joey Badass, Dave East, King Los, Kemba, Pusha T, J.Cole, Logic, Killer Mike, El-P, Lupe Fiasco, Kendrick, Jay Rock, Ab-Soul, Schoolboy Q, Isaiah Rashad, Mick Jenkins, Chance The Rapper, Vic Mensa, Alex Wiley, Flatbush Zombies, Underachievers, Vince Staples, Mr Muthafuckin eXquire, Tondeff, Louis Logic etc.
You're just washed up and wanna circlejerk on some old dusty ass shit and feel superior because you listen to 'real' rap. Fuck outta here nigga
Did you even read his comment. Rap is about Lyricism. Your talking about Hip Hop. That mumble shit aint Rap.
You dumb fuck, what do you think Sugar Gang Hill was doing on that track, singing? Rap is using words within a rhythmic meter to create a flow or various flows. If the shit rhymes and doesn't fall off rhythm than the content and the lyrics can be literally anything you want them to be. People were rapping way before Rakim existed and the lyrics were really simple and the content wasn't some super deep shit. And spoken word rhyming existed way before hip hop too. Stop talking like rap was invented in the 90's
Nobody said anything specifically about rap being born in the 90's though what we are saying is that the basis/root of the lyrically intricate and/or legitimate HIP HOP/RAP artists that changed the perspective of lyricism(which exploded to the forefront of the genre in the 90's) where poetic heights were reached are on the outs with popularity among north Americans right now and that's BAD. Information or a story conveyed through the message in the music which is the real hip hop/rap that educated and uplifted people in many degrees and like everyone said there will always be the party or simplistic upbeat hits but that's not what being a hip hop/rap artist is really made of. in the genre 90% of these new gen trash can industry kids are coming out with RECYCLED TRASH slur words on RECYCLED RE SAMPLED beats. The masses soak it into their brains like a sponge. Would yourself as a grown human being rather repeat words that treat your mind like you have a terrible speech impediment and/or a massive lack of understanding of the proper English language? I would imagine not but it's become a mind numbing process that's setting in on a large majority.
the credibility of your post went out the window as soon as you start throwing terms like 'legitimate', 'real' hip hop around.
The whole "good rappers" vs "bad rappers" is all up to interpretation. Some people might consider Migos as trash, but I like their music because it's fun and energetic, and creative much of the time. There is not judge on what's good or bad, it's all up to you.
Imperator you are a brainwashed idiot
I'm 14 and I still prefer 90s rap
same
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Mattborg &Ckbacon same
Mattborg &Ckbacon wow good for you, I personally do not give two shits
Edgy
I don't know how mumble rap is so popular
Gally Music labels are fucked. Radios are fucked. People’s ears are fucked up.
Gally most people are retarded
because kids are brainwashed
Is everyone just gonna ignore the fact that this kid used the n-word?
Lyrics are easy to recite plus each rapper has their own street crew. Visuals on wealth, drugs and Guns.
true last statement man...let the youngsters do their shit...let their work do the talking.if their shit is worth remembering like all of the greats , then good for them. but for now , all i see are arrogant kids who can't show respect.
truth!
You know whats interesting...in the 70s and before you can see that kids didn't have much disrespect for their elders. As the ages have gone down it seems like younger generation is disrespecting the ones before them more often. I'mn not born in the 70s and am much younger, but its interesting what you hear from the older folks...
their work has been here for years and evidence shows they're getting harder to understand....your saying let these guys hang around and make it harder for those with substance....I will not agree to disagree and watch as commercialism destroys artists opening to become something more than just a name
Cam Springz nah man!..i hope you get my point...remember when rund dmc , nwa , etc. just started everyone was wierded out by them, they find their musci annoying,but guess what. their music stayed.up until now and we still jammin to them... Now movin forward ..let me ask you this, what happend to soulja boy(and the likes) ? havent heard from him for years. not on the radio, on mainstream media, none. what im sayin is ,give them a few years. the world will forget them.
Um he is actually producing for other artist....
The outrage probably stems from seeing this new generation being greatly rewarded for minimal effort while lyricists with word play on par with some of the greatest writing ever, have reaped a fraction of the reward. Hip hop has had to fight the American govt and a large part of American society for years for recognition and to sit back now and see such overwhelming success given to these kids is just ugh. Yes music evolves but the root of hip hop is lyrics not just beat. Words can't just be abandoned then relabeled as evolution. That's not even hip hop anymore.
Did he say "hittas" instead of "niggas" because of the new CZcams rules against swearing, or is he just trying to phase-out the use of the word?
Haters... what weed were you on when you heard "hittas"?? I'd like 20g of that shit.
what CZcams has new rules? let me guess they won't let you swear? huh?
he did bro, i was like wtf i dont even need to rewind... even if it wasnt hittas, fuck, i KNOW it wasnt niggas lol
DjStiv3 I rewound that like 5 more times man, he said hittas lol..it might be that new policy on profanity here on YoutTube but I don't think so.
I just don't like the word. So I don't use it.
mumble rap and Soulja boy is thrash
if you dont like mumble rap, check out this fireee czcams.com/video/9IXaQpSMlsk/video.html
Tyrell Monias your just not well versed in old hip hop can you really compare someone like 2pac or eminem to lil pump or uzi vert didnt think so.
Tyrell Monias don't call us oldheads were not oldheads
These guys mumble incoherent trash and dress like women and take Xanax that is trash guys
Tyrell Monias you listen to trash music
These videos are so interesting and insightful, this is probably the best hip hop coverage on YT right now
superior soy thank you!
Forreal forreal tho. . .
Love hip hop man but rock needs a come back too. Hip hop has stayed relivent throughout the late 2000's
Carlotta Ototivo Seether is a good band, but sadly isn't mainstream
Just give them their own category!
Problem solved really
astronaut music
I like to classify em like this..one is the truly talented wordplay/methapor actually telling stories gotta a positive message to spread or jus a message period respect the flow and still treat it like a form of art these are the "rappers" the true MCs...and then there's "entertainers"..they don't necessarily rap in the way I'm used to but can entertain whoever it is that they tryna entertain can sell records their catchy one liners and party lyrics are what they excel at..I'll never be the one to say a certain category sucks cz they out there doing big things while I'm jus commenting on CZcams but I definitely have my preferences such as the Big KRITs Kendrick Lamars and J Coles they the ones I fuck with..the real "rappers"!!
Been saying that for the longest. Completely agree.
I'll be dead serious I dont know any of the "mumble" rappers mentioned in the description. lol.
lol...yo i thought i was alone...don't have no fuccin clue who they are..the one wit da eye patch sounds like he has a speech impediment...lol
XxStreetShredderxX I know what u mean I haven't listened to radio music in a long time cuz it went to shit after like 2005
i dont get the whole "young nigga" vs "old nigga" thing. Shit im 22 years old and even i think lil yachty and og maco are trash
its the younger crowd under 20 that fucks with them.fuck moco n yachty tupac all day.
yea I can't stand there music it's hard having to listen to this shit cus it seems like thats all the kids at my school listen to now a days
that's why I like 80s hip hop 90s just always wanna be gangster and struggling 80s just clean good music and style
Kid Nyce I like 90s more but rakim was insane
you can say your critics are old but that doesnt stop them being right. even WITHIN the style hes going for, lil yatchy is not good. Hes not good at what *he* does
hashtag meme rap hashtag harambe hashtag yung lean
Gwendolen Roberts FUCK YOU NIGGA LIL YACHTY > TUPAC
Gucci Flop LIL YACHTY > MY ASS!!! Pac is way too intelligent for you lames. Fuck off and youtube your garbage ass mumble, no teeth havin ass rap and stay dumb you idiot.
Gwendolen Roberts I'd say its a matter of opinion, since there are a ton of people who do like him. And like yachty says himself he's only been rapping for like a year so i think he's done an amazing job at what he does
+Volg Zangief legit point
everybody should hate mumble rap
This comment is everything wrong with oldheads
@@-BeatsKids shut the fuck up. I'm 17 and I love old school hip hop
@@kamarihodges4205 So? I'm 17 too and I like both old school and new school, people can have their own preferences so you and this ignorant oldhead should shut the fuck up, no matter how old y'all are mentally y'all are bitter, old and ignorant
@@-BeatsKids stfu kids.
@@mAAdcity-vr4ho stay mad
I listen to hip hop for the punch lines in the cleverness and word play of it all. Listening to people rap about Fucking bitchs and cooking crack in a trap house gets old after awhile.
Crack Seller so was they not talking bout that then 😂😂😂😂
I know music morphs and changes. I don't expect it to sound like what I was listening to in the 80's and 90's. But, I do expect artistry. There are good rappers still today, but, I hear so much of this mumble slop smeared all over the place, but, this is their choice. I do not want to hate on another man's fame, I just want some real artistry out there. There is no comparison of quality, of say, Eric B and Rakim to mumble slop. The lyrics are so sloppy in mumble world, and the only thing that makes it sound good is generated beats, and alteration of the voice.
Here is what I wish for all music. When you come into the game, come as an artist, with something you can be proud of. Don't flood the world with hollow music. Feel good about the product you produce. Put yourself out into it. Give us some true art, that comes from you.
Troy Honaker this comment speaks the truth
Look. The thing that is driving this lazy artistry...is money! Greed! We eatin' now! I understand that any youngin' from the block is trying to get out and get his homeboys out too. Yes, the family has to eat. But, don't go for that quick pay day! The "Ol ass nigga" is an INDUSTRY NOW!! The "Ol ass nigga" is feeding 100's peoples families that work for HIS company! What is being said by a lot of heads on here is be original, but, be true. Be creative. Show a talent. I've heard on The Breakdown, either Justin or Muirs...I think it was Muirs, give credit to The Migo's. They are a Dungeon Family product. It was pointed out that the lyrical content is the same as Schooly D's when he put out PSK. Thing is....we can understand Schooly D..cant REALLY understand Migos. Showcase your talent. Don't show case the stacks you get quickly. Go ask Mase......
literally forgot about laffy taffy till you mentioned it lmao
Hip hop is the only music genre in which younger artists disrespect the pioneers so much...
4:30 the fuck you mean this is the golden age? Im 16 and have been listening to rap for at least 3 year (including old rappers) and to me nothing will ever be as good as the 80's-90's. Thats the true golden age of rap, I've seen only a small amount of rappers today even come close to the rappers of the 80-90's
lmao ur white
+More Legendary Only an idiot would think that matters. Even though it's pretty ridiculous to call yourself an expert on rap when you've only been listening for 3 years, lmao
CaptainKronkers
its a joke fool
I just find it funny when people cock suck the 90s era just because it will get them more likes.
The 90s era should be respected but people shouldnt try to force other people to like the music lol everyone should be able to like what they want smh
We all know lil wayne did it
narasimha hm BUT he then spit fire with on point lyrics, thats the difference, he could back up his rap style with realness
He was always lyrical.He just has a heavy accent.
Lil Wayne is copied by many mumblers only because his flow is easiest to hide out in. this doesn't mean he started it or that the mumblers couldn't use some other rappers beat or mix.
Not really more like the community as a whole killed our culture as well as B.E.T by not playing Little brother video like they should had done.
One thing missing from this conversation is the effects of our traumatic social experience in this country (ie slavery, Jim Crow, Black Codes, war on drugs, etc.).... we've been taught and conditioned to NOT look to our elders, but instead to discard them like old useless tools who have outlived their usefulness. Hip-Hop is an outward visible expression of not only our culture but our collective state of being... it's a look into our collective consciousness. (Clearly, we are battling for our own sanity.) We have always seen multiple facets of life expressed via Hip-Hop, so that's not the issue... the real problem is our disconnection to the past. This same thing has been happening to us as long as we've been living under the oppression of the "western world" or "dominant society". The difference is that now we're more aware of what's happening and fighting against it. Rock and Roll, Blues, Jazz all were created and popularized by our people, but we lost them because of corporate takeovers. The same thing is happening, however the people who are realizing it have the perspective and experience (ie "old niggas"), so their opinions aren't taken seriously.... This has nothing to do with rap or Hip-Hop. It has everything to do with American socialization. We're taught to throw away the old people.... so we can't benefit from their wisdom. And keep in mind, the elders who we are speaking of now don't really have a template of their elders to reflect on, because those before Hip-Hop wanted it dead. The likes of Ice -T, Pete Rock, or Lord Jamar are only saying it should move forward and get better.... not just go for whatever gets you paid right now, because that's a trap.
Well said. Great breakdown!
Henry Muñoz Exactly! 👏 👏 👏
PREAAACH!!! Agreed.
Henry Muñoz I disagree. you shot yourself in the foot when you mentioned traumatic social experiences.
hip hop by the decade or generation is a reflection of the current state to a degree. people in the 80s and 90s had different things to fight for and go through. as a individual in those times we see majority of artists are conscious or have a good vocab. the rakims, tupacs, biggies etc. looking at the environment and what was going on for these points in time, how does anyone expect for a new generation of people to feel the same about it or the concept of what older gens feel is important when the older generation don't even educate the ones coming after them? all these OGs in the communities doing what for the kids? oh sports? That physically does something and that's it. ain't nobody funding they cities to keep extra activities alive. ain't no OG teaching youngins out here.
Jay z said it best "it's the wild West right now everybody a cowboy".
mumble rap is hip hop. to discredit a style of rap, a version of rap is like saying tupac didn't say shit while he was here. It's disrespectful.
It's not a battle of sanity it's a battle of being accepted as a individual. the tone of hip hop has changed over the years. went from most artists and groups being able to thrive together. tribe called quest, wu tang, etc. the content was relatable for the time and years to come (some artists work still relatable today).
us millenials have a issue with the old heads because y'all got a issue and it's personal. how tf you gone tell somebody what they doing garbage when it's working? gangsta rap was probably garbage to the gen who love kurtis blow. nobody like this dancing shit? why was niggas dancing in N.Y. on cardboard boxes? isn't the one thing with music expression? if I'm correct then why are older generations denieing new generations their own personal right to feel?
yachty aint gotta do 90s rap he can do wtf he want to just like how 90s AND 80s probably was with those artists. You gone tell a grown mothafucka what to do?
politics play a part too but let's be real. after high school in any gen it's safe to say no one cares about furthering education. if they did we would have a lot more students then entertainers
official Hworld well thought out view point. I agree with your statement that the older generation shouldn't push their views on the new generation. However you have to look at it this way hip hop/ rap is the only music form that people base a whole racial society off of. They don't do it to pop or country or rock but hip hop has to bear the cross of being a representation of black culture. So what hip hop portrays people feel we believe or represents us as a group. That's why gangsta rap was a double edged sword it was expressive and new and great but it also painted a picture that made people fear it then us. So in the opposite direction is mumble rap. the old heads see it as what society will not only think of hip hop but of us as a people. Is that fair no but is it true maybe is it fucked up if true absolutely. Then the question becomes do mumble rappers have a greater responsibility to themselves or the culture if they know that what they're doing is defining what people think of not only them but everyone who looks like them. In the end there is a balance to mumble, gangster, trap, conscience and other rap genres to be had finding it is the hard part especially when we have so much infighting.
glad i found ya #HipHopDX your video/videos are great brain food.
Keep doing ya thing ->
Omnithe vocalrapper thank you!
Thank you, MVP!
When old punk rockers started hating on pop-punk it died. Same will happen to rap if there is discourse within the community. Lil yachty isn't even close to the best, but he is an artist and people like him. Older rappers will always be seen as being part of the ignition of a new culture throughout the world and people will still be fucking with them until rap dies.
Like your show, this is a little late, but my 2 cents: Old people are always gonna hate on the young. When I was a teen, the stuff i did pissed off my parents generation. Now I'm 35 and I don't like these kids. The cycle will continue. But only time will tell if mumble rap will be the next new shift of hip hip. I don't think it will, because its all about the right now. Its the meme generation. After a few hours its already old, its already passed. Some other kid will come up with some other weird sound, at it will end this mumble rap trend. True artist though, create sounds that will last generations. That's why you have classics from the past still finding relevance today. That's why people still listen to Mozart, centuries after he died. Instant memes die after an hour. True art, last forever.
Well said and I heavily agree.
Although I'm seven months late.