A Pre-Built Voron Stealthburner !? Install and Setup on Troodon 2.0
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- čas přidán 23. 05. 2023
- In this video I examine the new pre-built Stealthburner from Vivedino/ Formbot. I give an overview of the product and then illustrate the installation process on the Troodon 2.0. Included is a description of the necessary firmware configuration and a comparison of print quality before and after the upgrade.
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A huge thanks for all videos about the Troodon 2.0. I've got mine, and your videos were very helpful, mainly for getting Klipper running.
My pleasure! Thanks for watching.
Beautifully done, and I've ordered mine. Thx for this!
These are the videos I'm subscribed for!
That StealthBurner looks nicer than the hot ends from all of the Chinese 3D printer companies. It looks more like something you'd see on a Stratos commercial 3D printer or one of the $4K+ prosumer grade printers. If I had a Klipper machine with good input shaping, I'd have opted for the high flow version of the StealthBurner so extrusion rate wasn't the speed limiting factor for the Troodon 2.0.
This video was a true work of art. Incredible.
Thank you my friend. That means a lot.
@@ygk3d do you have prior editing experience before CZcams?
@@ThePrintHouse I’ve been messing around with editing for a while now. Editing family trip videos, etc. I just haven’t channeled that energy into something consistent until this channel.
Those belt grabbers are a great idea.
Well done! Thank you.
Your videos are amazingly well done! Big kudos for putting in the time for these series of videos. I have one question, will integrated drive gear assembly from bondtech work as an upgrade? Not sure if you've seen miragc video on this, but maybe that would improve quality over the afterburner?
Thank you so much!
I’m pretty sure that should work, and might not be a bad idea. I’ve seen the video. MirageC is awesome.
Love the videos! If you purchase the Dragon version you actually save money if you where to buy hotend and print parts yourself
Thank you! That’s a great point. The Dragon HF is $65 on its own.
Perfect timing!! Your videos are awesome!!
I ordered my Troodon 2.0 yesterday and it should be delivered Friday!!!
Ordered the printer from a vendor in Canada and the stealthburner from formbot. It should be here in less than 2 months…😂😂😂
Do you have your rep rap resonance tower somewhere it can be downloaded?
For changing the config files will any text editor do or is there an optimal program?
I’ll just drop a revo six hotend in from the start… keep the afterburner as a backup!!!
Thank you!!
The RepRap resonance tower 3MF files are available on my Patreon. If you want to generate your own you can download the ringing tower test model from here: www.klipper3d.org/prints/ringing_tower.stl.
Have fun with your Troodon 😊
@@ygk3d normally I find patreon is just a useless cash grab from greedy CZcamsrs….
Your one of the few exceptions. I’ll hit it up once the printer gets here!!!
Again fantastic work!!
@@robh.8214 thank you! I try to provide as much value as possible to my Patreon supporters.
So my stealthburner just shipped. Does it have the same bearing issues as the stock hotend/extruder?
Just finally started getting good prints out of the printer!!!
@@robh.8214 the Stealthburner comes with steel sealed bearings from factory, so no need to switch them.
hi, once again amazing video! as allways!
you made me get these machines and i love them! on the end of the video you talk about a video of a 5015 part cooling fan upgrade.. does the sealth burner didnt already came with a 5015? i need to upgrade my partcooling fan..
Thank you! Stealthburner already has better cooling than the Afterburner. The 5015 upgrade I was referring to was for the Afterburner.
@@ygk3d thank you for your reply! what i mean is, is there any fan upgrade for the afeterburner just to get it with better cooling?
@@DiipsRatsAirsoftPortugal yes. See here: github.com/Greg191134/Voron/blob/master/Afterburner%20Optimisation/5015%20fan%20mod/README.md
dang would of been good had I not just ordered all the parts and just started printing. I am going with a Rapido though vs the dragon.
Thanks for your videos I am learning a lot about the Troodon 2.0. Can you do a side by side comparsion of the Troodon 2.0 vs the Bambu Lab X1 Carbon? Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
These two printers are quite different so I’m not sure a comparison would make sense. The Bambu is smaller and hands-off in its operation. The Trodoon is larger and has a steeper learning curve but offers the opportunity to mod and tweak, which can be a hobby in itself.
@ygk3d can the troodon be modded to be as "easy" as the bambu? Or are the mechanics just too different?
Awesome video
Can’t decide between troodon or bambu suggestions?
Thank you! That really depends on what your goals are. I love both. You will learn more with the Troodon and have the ability to print bigger things. The Bambu X1C is a treat to use if you just want to print things.
I know the community loves to hate on Creality, and most of that is justified, but they will start shipping their K1 Max soon. It's their answer to the Bambu Labs X1C. The K1 is more of a direct competitor but the K1 Max offers a larger 300 X 300 X 300 mm print volume. Not as large as the 350 X 350 X 330 mm Troodon or larger Voron printers, but a fast large volume CoreXY printer with good print quality using Klipper input shaping and in the case of the K1 Max, a lidar for first layer inspection.
I guess other videos are there for people to disassemble and assemble the SB. Note that if the nozzle is no longer centered on the pin, DO NOT run to the files to make changes. Make sure it is assembled properly first and the hotend piece is flush against the carriage. Ask me how I know.... Also make sure to resnug the x and y belts.
I'm thinking about buying a Troodon 2.0 but the Creality K1 max seems to be amazing as well. What would you recommend? I like the 350mm build volume but if the K1 max is much better I could manage with 300mm. Printing big ABS parts is the most important feature for me.
Don't buy a Creality
@@tjlqk3 I bought the troodon 2.0. Creality K1 max seems good though but I like the Troodon because it can be customised and upgraded to your liking.
@@sabahoudiniagreed
What keeps me from popping this on my Vyper as this is a popular mod as it is.
I switched out to the Stealthburner end today, but my nozzle doesn't seem to be back far enough to hit the z-stop pin. It's off by maybe 2mm, but I have the safe_z_home set to 230,350 and it won't go beyond 350 if I set it to, say, 352 ... any suggestions?
Try changing position_max under [stepper_y]
How has klicky held up for you? Ive heard mixed reviews for long term operation
It’s been good so far but I haven’t been using it for that long.
If you could get a pre-assembled and tested voron built from the formbot kit at the same price point as troodon+stealthburner, is there any reason to choose the troodon?
My choice would be the Troodon. It is more solidly built with all metal parts. The only major difference would be the firmware. The Troodon comes with RepRap but the switch to Klipper is easy if that’s the route you want to go.
Question. Bought the large Troodon in 9/20 but some things came up and never had a chance to set it up. Will this work on the original machine? Thanks.
It won’t be plug and play. The Stealthburner carriage is designed for an MGN12 rail. The Troodon v1 has an MGN9.
@@ygk3d Thank you, I've contacted Formbot.
@@ozzy1887did they have an answer for you?
Hey man, did you shorten the cables somehow when removing the cable chain? I'm going to do a sensorless homing so need to get rid of the chains.
I pulled back any excess and stuck it under the bed. Some people have unplugged the cable and routed it out the back ventilation holes which also seems like a good strategy.
@@ygk3d I see. I experimented some more and if you use the cable chain and put it upside down it is very stiff. Furthermore at the edges you can detach a few links and reattach them upside down making the cable chain bend up at the edges while being stiff in the middle. Then you can run the cable along the back extrusion and have the cable chain limit the movement of the cable except at the two ends of the cable chain. You would have to print something to attach the cable chain to the back extrusion and keep the part where the cable starts from vertical. The cable would go from the left side of the back extrusion to the toolhead. I haven't printed anything yet but the bottom holes can be used to attach the cable chain to the back extrusion.
Actually didn't work. I think I'll route it out the back ventilation.
I have a voron 2.4 with dual rails on the x-axis. Would it require any modifications for this to work?
I don’t believe the Stealthburner is backwards compatible with the dual rail design, but there may be a different carriage mount you could print for it.
@ygk3d is this particular head any different than what you would build with parts you would source yourself?
@@HeyCoalCat only the toolboard is specific to the Troodon. But you can discard that. It also doesn’t have the LEDs, so you would need to purchase those separately if you want to add them. Otherwise it is the same.
Wonder if I order this if I can attach it to my hermit crab
I’m going to assume that’s a type of printer I’ve never heard of? I don’t think that would go over very well if you attach it to a crustacean 😂. In other words, I have no clue.
Is the faceplate same as a stock self printed one? I want to print my own color. Don't like red.
Yes
Unfortunately the Troodon is NOT a Voron. I learned that the hard way. The belt path does not match a voron. The pulleys are different and the belts are on different heights. Bought a light weight X gantry with CNC xy joints, they do not match. The belts don't line up. Further more, the extrusions are 20 x 23 mm WxH which is a weird choice. If you want to mod it extensively this is not a printer for you.
what voltage is this for, 24V or 12V.
24V
Would this be a reasonable upgrade for an Ender 3 S1?
I'm not sure that would make a whole lot of sense. The S1 seems to have a decent extruder/hotend setup from factory. This Stealthburner needs an MGN12 linear rail for the carriage to ride on. I don't own the S1, but it seems to use v-slot wheels, so the Stealthburner wouldn't be directly compatible.
@@ygk3d Got it. I'm still relatively new to all this, appreciate the response!
What kind of print speeds do you get?
I’m maxing out at 10 mm^3/s flow (PLA) with the stock v6 and 0.4 nozzle. That amounts to around 100 mm/s with 0.45 line width at 0.3 layer height. To go quicker you’ll need to upgrade the hotend or install a CHT nozzle.
@@ygk3d so with a standard flow hotend then?
@@pixxure1 those numbers are for standard flow. You could go faster with a high flow hotend.
Thanks for another TD2 video really helpful. Upgrading to a high flow version Stealthburner myself. There is an upgrade guide at formbot drive.google.com/file/d/1lr_Hx9OZWllfCImKM14CyYioKiPD2K9N/view