How T1 won WORLDS by IGNORING the META!?| Worlds 2023

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  • @DuongNguyen-yr5es
    @DuongNguyen-yr5es Před měsícem +355

    i watched caedrel back then and he talked about the world meta shift too. t1 is so good at creating their own style, like when they shown 2adc bot to counter luci+nami and zeri+ lulu. i hope they cook something this year too

    • @mvldayos
      @mvldayos  Před měsícem +45

      T1 have always been creative when it comes to draft! 2023 in particular was special because people kept on saying how t1 created the range support meta. But it was actually very different compared to the lpl teams. Theirs was moreso on play making!!

    • @hanscaniagochan8448
      @hanscaniagochan8448 Před měsícem +1

      @@mvldayos I'm not really familiar with the term but does wbg lux doesn't count as range support ?

    • @mvldayos
      @mvldayos  Před měsícem +11

      @@hanscaniagochan8448 Lux is a range support! If you have a time stamp I can provide clarification

    • @ChoB1den
      @ChoB1den Před měsícem +1

      ​@@mvldayoshonestly i think t1's meta is a product of their overall dominance. If they arent ahead of the curve their aggressive botlane style becomes very risky and relyant on leads. Wich they get most of the time, bcs they are just better at laneing then 99% of other teams atm. This is why i think other teams just shouldnt blindly copy t1. Scaling is still one of the best ways to achieve a wincon in draft. Ofc u need a draft that can also survive early, but overall scaling is very op. There are actually so many more picks that are good in pro, that remain almost completely unpicked. Teams lack creativity and blindly copy what the good teams are doing...

    • @LOLzum101
      @LOLzum101 Před měsícem

      T1 weren't the first to counter with two adc

  • @soraka-chan5070
    @soraka-chan5070 Před měsícem +280

    T1 baited everyone to counter guma and keria to hide the fact that zeus was the monster they released in the field.

    • @salvadormunoz1845
      @salvadormunoz1845 Před měsícem +6

      exactly

    • @matthewchan1441
      @matthewchan1441 Před měsícem +27

      thats what makes t1 so hard to draft against. it's impossible to draft gap t1's bot lane. they literally play everything XD

    • @johnpauljonesisabadass8134
      @johnpauljonesisabadass8134 Před měsícem

      ​@matthewchan1441 that means you just ignore and target ban zeus and oner. Faker and botlane can play anything, why ban against them?

    • @C0astDelta
      @C0astDelta Před měsícem +2

      ​@@johnpauljonesisabadass8134 Doing so allows Mid and Bot to run free which are the main carry roles. Even if Zeus is behind bro can ass pull some insane plays. Oner though if banned against does struggles from my understanding.

    • @Fbai69696
      @Fbai69696 Před měsícem +2

      ​@@C0astDeltaThe fact that this shit is true idk how Zeus consistently ass pulls a solo kill after being killed 3 times

  • @eryalmario5299
    @eryalmario5299 Před měsícem +199

    T1 was the only team that ran yone top when other teams were running yone mid lane

    • @jlgg369
      @jlgg369 Před měsícem +30

      In fact, only Zeus can counter Aatrox with Yone.
      There is an analysis about this match up and mostly Aatrox has the favor (slighly more than 50% win rate on Challenger, for any rank below is Aatrox's favor)
      Which require extreme high level skill that on ranked game, only Challenger player can do it.
      But Zeus can make that happen constantly on Worlds.
      He is the best Top lanner 2023 without any doubt.

  • @SeikiRikodou
    @SeikiRikodou Před měsícem +96

    I find it funny that the other teams genuinely tried T1's meta but due to the lack of experience and ideas how to play the comps they fail miserably XD

    • @jlgg369
      @jlgg369 Před měsícem +12

      All they can do is guess the T1's meta by looking at the ban/pick.
      In Worlds 2023, blue side have better win rate, T1 lose every coin toss.
      LNG thought T1 prioritise duo marksman bot lane, saw Senna then picked Blitcrank (both good for either marksman support or tahm kench)
      But T1 last pick Nilah.
      The worst thing is, NO TEAM ARE GIVING T1 blue side, so Keria or Zeus can last pick every game.
      Just a nightmare for them lol

    • @markangelobalquero7342
      @markangelobalquero7342 Před měsícem +4

      @@jlgg369T1 is the only team has highest winrate in redside btw hahaha

    • @ChoB1den
      @ChoB1den Před měsícem +3

      ​@mvldayos honestly i think t1's meta is a product of their overall dominance. If they arent ahead of the curve their aggressive botlane style becomes very risky and relyant on leads. Wich they get most of the time, bcs they are just better at laneing then 99% of other teams atm. This is why i think other teams just shouldnt blindly copy t1. Scaling is still one of the best ways to achieve a wincon in draft. Ofc u need a draft that can also survive early, but overall scaling is very op. There are actually so many more picks that are good in pro, that remain almost completely unpicked. Teams lack creativity and blindly copy what the good teams are doing...

    • @ziyou2063
      @ziyou2063 Před měsícem +3

      @@jlgg369 and even JDG won toin coss and chose red side for their first game 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @jlgg369
      @jlgg369 Před měsícem

      @@ziyou2063 They were trying to deal with T1's double counter red side(keria and Zeus). But they didn't survive that.

  • @birdsarentrealbro
    @birdsarentrealbro Před měsícem +159

    Ignoring??? No sir, they built the meta for the tournament. They were in control the whole time, it was amazing to watch.

    • @mvldayos
      @mvldayos  Před měsícem +35

      I agree!! At the start I said that initially t1 tried to copy other teams but after they struggled they did their own style. In quarters the Chinese teams tried to copy and creat their own bot lane range meta but it was still inferior to t1’s!

    • @birdsarentrealbro
      @birdsarentrealbro Před měsícem +6

      @@mvldayos it was absolutely incredible what they did. Defining the meta to start off, and then breaking it anyway to play weird stuff.

    • @gabsterrivera5674
      @gabsterrivera5674 Před měsícem +9

      I think Caedrel summed it up well: T1 found a counter for the Worlds meta. The approach was either to go deeper in that same meta or just arrive at a full counter for that meta, in which case we haven't exactly arrived at a full circle yet, but a circle will eventually form in this perspective

    • @addy405
      @addy405 Před měsícem

      No sir r u a noob from 19 hundreds 40 plus talking like that 😂

    • @ChoB1den
      @ChoB1den Před měsícem

      ​@mvldayos honestly i think t1's meta is a product of their overall dominance. If they arent ahead of the curve their aggressive botlane style becomes very risky and relyant on leads. Wich they get most of the time, bcs they are just better at laneing then 99% of other teams atm. This is why i think other teams just shouldnt blindly copy t1. Scaling is still one of the best ways to achieve a wincon in draft. Ofc u need a draft that can also survive early, but overall scaling is very op. There are actually so many more picks that are good in pro, that remain almost completely unpicked. Teams lack creativity and blindly copy what the good teams are doing...

  • @lilpink6192
    @lilpink6192 Před měsícem +31

    Loved the analysis and outlining what gave them the edge! I've always just heard that "T1 beat/reinvented the meta in Worlds 2023 and that's why they won" but never could really grasp what they did that differently,,, but you're explanations are super clear. 8:58 was truly a “If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.” Sun Tzu, The Art of War moment.
    Worlds 2023 was absolute CINEMA for T1. I know a lot of people who thought that T1 stomping the LPL only losing 1 game to JDG made the watching experience 'boring', but frankly I think it's more impressive than anything. It gave them the confidence to pull off some of the most memorable plays in the whole tournament and showed them that they are rewarded when they play to their strengths. It made their win feel so much more deserved.

    • @mvldayos
      @mvldayos  Před měsícem +6

      Yeah! I enjoyed watching this worlds a ton because of how adaptive t1 was as a team. It’s easy as a spectator but imagine having to scout or play vs them! Suddenly out of nowhere you have to think about bard. The next week jinx tk. The next week senna. The next week Ashe support. You not only had to be ready for what t1 has done but what they WILL do. Master class of adaptation in tournament

    • @mvldayos
      @mvldayos  Před měsícem

      Yeah! I enjoyed watching this worlds a ton because of how adaptive t1 was as a team. It’s easy as a spectator but imagine having to scout or play vs them! Suddenly out of nowhere you have to think about bard. The next week jinx tk. The next week senna. The next week Ashe support. You not only had to be ready for what t1 has done but what they WILL do. Master class of adaptation in tournament

  • @exekieltura1784
    @exekieltura1784 Před měsícem +30

    At first I said that this worlds is not for T1 since the bot meta revolves around XAYAH and KAI'SA and then T1 changed it!

    • @mvldayos
      @mvldayos  Před měsícem +8

      Yeah it’s truly impressive. It’s a measure of trust towards keria and everyone on t1 to see the world playing melee supp and xayah kaisa then going “this is wrong I’ll play my own way”

  • @ahkilleuskosmos6836
    @ahkilleuskosmos6836 Před měsícem +67

    The funny thing is that drafting for hard bot prio and using Guma and Keria to just mechanically beat down their opponents was T1's bread and butter for the entire year (fitting considering how they ultimately won), I remember after watching a couple of the first worlds games with my friend and he went "Huh... Is it just me or is T1's usual draft a hard counter into the meta rn?"

    • @mvldayos
      @mvldayos  Před měsícem +20

      Agreed! What’s even more interesting is that t1 would draft lanes like Ashe-varus and would actually get more advantage topside! The enemy jungle would come bottom because that’s what expected and oner would be invading or ganking. But guma and keria would continue to play like oner was right behind them. This meant that for the enemy team it’s like they were playing vs 2 junglers at the same time!

    • @phantomhearts5577
      @phantomhearts5577 Před měsícem +3

      You forgot about Zeus owning so much and faker carry when his kids are falling behind and how Oner can steal dragon / baron. Aswell as how oner and faker have synergy.

    • @psy_99
      @psy_99 Před měsícem +1

      @@phantomhearts5577 Those are things outside of drafting and meta reading. It's worth talking about but I think that's outside the scope of the discussion

    • @chriswho12345
      @chriswho12345 Před měsícem

      Dwg/DK won in 2020 similarly with nuguri top 1v3 while bot lane existed and shared some pressure with canyon jg making sure things go smoothly

  • @bentucky4324
    @bentucky4324 Před měsícem +12

    Thanks for the highly informative and educational video.
    Even though months have since passed after Worlds, it’s these incredibly well versed analysis that always brings me back to that Worlds hype moments.

    • @mvldayos
      @mvldayos  Před měsícem

      Hope you’re excited for msi!

  • @SamusAram
    @SamusAram Před měsícem

    Really enjoy the meta reading and would like to see more for previous Worlds tournaments!

  • @WildRiftGameplayandTutorial
    @WildRiftGameplayandTutorial Před měsícem +8

    The goal is simple. Allow bot lane to push back enemy adc and support to get plates rather than getting kills and allow Oner to roam on the top side and help Zeus get his powerspikes to take down squishy members. While Faker only has to do is babysit Oner on his jungle pathing and scale. That's why Zeus didn't pick any tank because their primary carry was Zeus and Faker who picks mostly Ori and Azir.

  • @doniherald7745
    @doniherald7745 Před měsícem +14

    Keria just too OP, he can play anything, and Gumayusi also too good.

  • @SW-xg6me
    @SW-xg6me Před měsícem +9

    FINALLY a vid from Coach Dayos. You're a beast, bro. Love your work

    • @mvldayos
      @mvldayos  Před měsícem

      Ty Ty appreciate all the support

  • @panagiotisbogiatzis2221
    @panagiotisbogiatzis2221 Před měsícem +4

    Tom is the god of draft also in psg his drafting was amazing

  • @keroga8635
    @keroga8635 Před měsícem +6

    Kkoma would never think of this, unless he saw this video.

  • @keychrons7200
    @keychrons7200 Před měsícem +2

    Good video, I think you should also mention that in their final game at worlds vs WBG they went back to the Xayah Rakan botlane

    • @mvldayos
      @mvldayos  Před měsícem +1

      I mentioned it briefly but vs wbg t1 changed their draft style again. This time locking in strong bot lane comboes 1-2 to give Zeus counter pick vs the shy. It’s very impressive because they were one of the few teams to actively prep vs each teams tendencies!

    • @plebbutter3811
      @plebbutter3811 Před měsícem +1

      @@mvldayos And as caedrel's chat is always keen to remind him, it definitely worked lmao

    • @mvldayos
      @mvldayos  Před měsícem

      @@plebbutter3811 bring back the shy!

  • @long9961
    @long9961 Před měsícem +1

    my goat coach dayos back at it again

  • @nightslayer5066
    @nightslayer5066 Před měsícem +6

    With what you said about T1 generating strong Lvl 1 and bot pressure, can you make a video in how they faltered in JDG games in that style. Im not saying they were bad there, but it can be seen that T1 had struggles in the Early game in the JDG Series. Notably the 3rd game where T1 narrowly win.

    • @markangelobalquero7342
      @markangelobalquero7342 Před měsícem

      bro JDG is by far the greatest team that time and the heavy favorites to win worlds. even T1 shifted the meta is not easy to beat JDG tho. but because T1 shift meta strat made JDG not to play LPL playstyle but to adjust and to play for T1 playstyle the reason JDG faltered.

    • @nightslayer5066
      @nightslayer5066 Před měsícem +1

      @@markangelobalquero7342 that is pretty doubtful, because Ruler is the best ADC in that tourney, with T1 strat literally being read by JDG. T1 faltered cause JDG read it, yet they lost not cause of the Strat. Ruler literally generated huge pressure for T1 even in Lvl1. Look at game 3, They dove T1 even though it failed, They actually read that they are losing the fight (T1 read they will lose) but they did not expect Ashe to die perhaps... Ruler knows how to fight the Aggressive Lvl1 Bot, they implemented it even...

    • @cryofrostrs3856
      @cryofrostrs3856 Před měsícem +1

      ​@@nightslayer5066They lost because they tried imitating T1's meta instead of using their strengths. It was clear in the entire series. Besides, even then, they were still losing individually in most of the series

  • @lirinnaufal
    @lirinnaufal Před měsícem

    Never played lol and never followed the pro scene but it was interesting to see a team shape a meta single handedly.

  • @KomplaseChankaewrae
    @KomplaseChankaewrae Před měsícem +4

    i love u content brother 😍

  • @rylentsuha4705
    @rylentsuha4705 Před měsícem

    such a good vid

  • @CollinTesta
    @CollinTesta Před měsícem +1

    The best example of them getting information and prioritizing top and mid for early trades is LNG vs T1 in game 3 of worlds. When oner invaded sej's blue, we see that bot lane can safely trade and push their lane from jg being top side along with mid and top being able to take safe trades. This resulted in oner and faker nearly killing ahri level 3 and giving faker pressure mid while also setting Sej behind.
    It really was all calculated geniusly by Tom and the Players. Well deserved worlds win.

    • @mvldayos
      @mvldayos  Před měsícem +1

      Have you seen my other video? I actually talk about this exactly play great eye!! czcams.com/video/kkZECOzvYiM/video.htmlsi=mWEmUI0F5OX-jQZO

    • @zombieprodigyz
      @zombieprodigyz Před měsícem

      Ill watch it now! T1 were crazy during worlds ​@@mvldayos

  • @BASTYK14710
    @BASTYK14710 Před měsícem +3

    The main problem is that every team is just copying whoever is winning, instead trying to counter it. There is a counter to every style you just have to find it🤔🤔

  • @tgseetoh
    @tgseetoh Před měsícem

    T1 didn't ignore the meta, the redefined it causing everyone else to change their gameplan and play comps that they are not used to just to follow. Similar to how FPX played in 2019 where they played whatever dark tech doinb had to confuse their opponents to make them play out of their comfort zones and move one step faster than the rest of the competition

  • @RC-hi5sj
    @RC-hi5sj Před měsícem +1

    Good content I hope more will notice the channel

  • @TheKevinGeee
    @TheKevinGeee Před měsícem +5

    T1 always follows the meta against GENG then loses. At this currentl lose-streak against GENG they should just wing it.

    • @JY-mh8fr
      @JY-mh8fr Před měsícem +4

      Godamn right! T1 plays incredible without relying on the meta so much. T1 plays a comp with stronger synergies. I hate it when t1 wants to match geng by playing geng style as well. Hopefully t1 play great at playoffs 14.6 seems a good fit for their playstyle

    • @mykellederickpalad7883
      @mykellederickpalad7883 Před měsícem +5

      Their draft against gen.g looks way different versus when they fight other teams. They should show the confidence they had last worlds when fighting gen.g

  • @dave1123
    @dave1123 Před měsícem

    If you have the best support in the world, you can create a new meta in bot lane anytime...most of their success in creating the new meta was mainly due to Keria pulling out these support picks that works for their advantage...

  • @Zyra_Cameron
    @Zyra_Cameron Před 21 dnem

    the thing is, T1 plays even the riskiest champs, thats why they can experiment and throw off other teams because they cant counter weird selections.

  • @Yujix-dj8xr
    @Yujix-dj8xr Před měsícem

    Hope they are cooking something for playoffs 😬

  • @Airrenlol
    @Airrenlol Před 23 dny

    this shit waas so good

  • @babyboomer3388
    @babyboomer3388 Před měsícem

    The real reason is everyone on T1 (especially Guma/Keria) has a very large champ pool, even later in the playoffs when other LPL teams start to adapt their draft. BLG vs WBG for example, every time they play something like Bard or Ashe it’s just a shitshow

  • @alexalvarado2048
    @alexalvarado2048 Před měsícem +1

    This is such a great vid explainign how T1 shifted de meta completly, really deserves a like and subscibe. I recomend you to watch "Pirámides al 13.19" by Cabramaravilla, he's an spanish analyst and that video is an indept view of how world's meta evolved from playin all the way to finals, youtube automatic subtitles aren't great, but they help to understand.

    • @mvldayos
      @mvldayos  Před měsícem

      I just watched! I was very impressed by his editing, knowledge, and story telling. I think English speakers are missing content creators like that. I will do my best to fill that gap!

  • @CorruptedDust
    @CorruptedDust Před měsícem

    T1 never has to follow the meta. They are the meta

  • @CanyoufeelitnowMrKrabzz
    @CanyoufeelitnowMrKrabzz Před měsícem +4

    This is like ASMR 😅

    • @mvldayos
      @mvldayos  Před měsícem +1

      Good thing or bad thing! Haha

  • @gordonvincent29
    @gordonvincent29 Před měsícem

    Good video

  • @grozaleonard
    @grozaleonard Před 28 dny

    Mark my words, if someone manages to kick out GenG out of MSI, T1 are bringing it home

  • @conneryechout7143
    @conneryechout7143 Před měsícem

    4:50 "cheems"

  • @tristan2338
    @tristan2338 Před měsícem +1

    Do you think there will be a death of the adc bot role?

    • @mvldayos
      @mvldayos  Před měsícem

      I think adc will remain strong! One time mages bot were op and I think the community didn’t like it so riot will prob make sure it doesn’t happen again

  • @skywalkerjohn8965
    @skywalkerjohn8965 Před měsícem +1

    Everything is meta if you are goodenough

  • @tristan2338
    @tristan2338 Před měsícem

    Think corku will be T1 again as the mid meta pushes anything melee ranged

  • @tarantulatar1410
    @tarantulatar1410 Před měsícem +2

    blud is yapping nonsense

  • @princedirt87
    @princedirt87 Před měsícem +2

    HOW T1 won WORLDS
    1. Recruit Keria
    2. Let him cook.

  • @hiw3128
    @hiw3128 Před měsícem +9

    Essentially they couldnt play the meta so they changed the meta

    • @mvldayos
      @mvldayos  Před měsícem +6

      I think a big part of it too was that they thought the meta didn’t make sense! In the vid there was a translation of Keira’s thoughts where he said that he was confused why people were picking melee supports. That he wouldn’t want to play melee vs the top side meta

    • @klumzyee
      @klumzyee Před měsícem

      well yes and no, because by definition this is a superior meta

  • @enzolags
    @enzolags Před měsícem +1

    I like this video

  • @Karenmarquesf
    @Karenmarquesf Před měsícem

    T1 was the meta

  • @qwacker9596
    @qwacker9596 Před měsícem

    dayos got that skibidi rizz

  • @user-pg4cm6ep8n
    @user-pg4cm6ep8n Před měsícem

    sadly this genius idea of range supp will be shut down by a stupid champ called smolder

    • @ziyou2063
      @ziyou2063 Před měsícem +4

      and glad to see significant nerf in patch 14.6 and the smolder couldn't used in pro match anymore.

    • @atehvir800
      @atehvir800 Před měsícem

      They have bans lol

    • @user-pg4cm6ep8n
      @user-pg4cm6ep8n Před měsícem

      @@atehvir800 then u just wasting bans and constant ban on smolder doesn't look good on mainstage

    • @papadwarf3953
      @papadwarf3953 Před měsícem

      @@user-pg4cm6ep8n if a champ is op why not?

  • @R0ronoaZor0
    @R0ronoaZor0 Před měsícem

    And now their draft is shit

  • @frasierjoseph
    @frasierjoseph Před měsícem

    can you not put the words on the screen for what you are just going to say? It's not necessary as the pictures and your commentary are good enough.

  • @valiboss2012
    @valiboss2012 Před měsícem

    Yeah still is GenG>T1>LPL>GenG kekw , I’m a huge T1 fan but this is the reality at least in my opinion they can win 2024 also if is not GenG in finals kekw

    • @alvinlim9142
      @alvinlim9142 Před 23 dny +1

      Im a GenG fan but Ksante merchant just to win? I don't think they're the best team in LCK. Scared of Vayne LOL

  • @jorgam1
    @jorgam1 Před měsícem +1

    Hey man, the content is pretty good but the editing is the worst i've seen on youtube in a long time. The actual information (like the picks, or what keria is saying about a certain pick) flashes on the screen for 1 second, but then there's long takes of the exact thing you're saying in the middle of the page and random illustrations. It also has a very static cutting rhytm. I understand it's easy to edit like this but it makes for a borderline unwatchable video, which is a shame cause the stuff you're saying is very interesting.
    Please re-consider editing your own stuff, or change styles to something more substantial.

  • @onlybier9821
    @onlybier9821 Před měsícem

    cringe T1 glazer

    • @papadwarf3953
      @papadwarf3953 Před měsícem

      they gapped the entire lpl lol what you mean

  • @Frstypwngaming
    @Frstypwngaming Před měsícem

    Nah faker really just scared all of China with the "All Roads Lead To Me" and "I've never lost to an LPL team at world's and I won't start now"

  • @RobloxLOL415
    @RobloxLOL415 Před měsícem

    Imagine if WBG banned aatrox every game would've been GG

  • @stormace343
    @stormace343 Před měsícem

    all you need to do was ban aatrox, rell and rumble. rito kept azir and orianna in meta cos faker can only play those and ahri.
    rito wants t1 to win worlds. cos lck wievers are dropping its all about money boys.
    there is no world t1 wins against that lng nor jdg

  • @Spryzing
    @Spryzing Před měsícem +1

    Not going to take away what T1 has done but If Gen G Hadnt choked against Blg it could've been very different

    • @aznfox3567
      @aznfox3567 Před měsícem

      GenG only good at LCK, T1 is the only true international team vs 3 chinese powerhouse

    • @papadwarf3953
      @papadwarf3953 Před měsícem

      but they did tho. If we go by ifs and maybes then t1 should be 6-7 times world champion by now

    • @clp4869
      @clp4869 Před měsícem

      they put blg in game 5 but I dont think 2023 Geng can win against Lng or Wbg either,
      t1 style is just good against these 2 teams which makes their worlds run easier

  • @Chris-ih4hj
    @Chris-ih4hj Před měsícem +2

    This video is bullsht

  • @ClickHere4Naruto
    @ClickHere4Naruto Před měsícem

    They didnt ignore the meta and played their style. Their style happened to be a big part of the meta, at least as far as it was discovered.