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Therapists have invaded social media. There are lots of therapist reacts or therapist breaksdown videos, principally therapists analyzing and diagnosing fictional characters for indepth character analysis. I am one of those channels. Yes, this is a video criticising myself. It is important to discuss some of the flaws and downsides in order to mitigate them.
My Little Thought Tree is my channel for drawing out the deeper meaning and emotion in film, TV, and the world at large through relaxed, analytical video essays. I am a professional counsellor and often draw on my psychology and therapy background to better understand characters, themes, and emotion in fiction. I upload every Saturday and occasionally on Tuesdays, if I'm feeling productive.
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Genuinely curious to know what people think about this one. Obviously "a big problem" is a little exaggerated but it's an interesting question to ponder.
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This was brave. Thanks.
A lot of the guys I've met who don't trust therapy (but who haven't ever had it), have been convinced that, as you say, a therapist is going to sit down and scrutinise them, then immediately tell them all the things that are wrong with them. They then imagine they're going to be told what to think and how to behave.This makes them feel resentful and controlled, even though the entire experience is imaginary. On the rare occasion they get past that idea and try therapy, they then get upset that the process ISN'T like that, and they actually have to figure things out through a process, rather than just being told what to do. The more education around what the process is actually like the better, especially for improving men's mental health.
The big question for me is, what is normal and healthy? I feel like pathologising everything is problematic. What's the point to do well if that's an unattainable goal?
As an Autistic person I can relate to your question
If everything is grey surly it’s better to lean towards white and thus become very light grey.
In my experience, having psychologised myself various ways throughout my development, I find that using manipulation tools to get what you want, once you know that's what they are, is kinda hard, because not doing them at all is super antisocial behaviour, and doing them all the time is also super antisocial behaviour. So I use economics as my primary filter, who benefits and where are the externalities when I do X thing.
I can't say it's objectively good or anything, or that it's more or less dark or light, but I'm happier, and people around me aren't leaving or asking me to, so that's about all the indicators I have.
Well, it's a very good question and not one with a solid answer because there are lots of different goods and bads. Generally however I find a lot of the deepest things rarely have straightforward answers we can just attain, and that's the end of it. As people we are ever changing. Wisdom and self awareness has to be ever-developing. For me, it is less about reaching an end goal "answer" than strengthening are ability to be constantly searching, seeking, finding meaning and understanding. Sometimes answers encourage that, sometimes they inhibit it. That's all a very vague answer and obviously labels can be good for a lot of different things
I recently had a daughter and I find this obsession in other mothers, to be perfectly calm and always collected, to be disturbing. They don't want to hurt their children, but not showing any emotion and always rationalizing is not the solution and it shows. They are devastated because they can't match that utopian standard, but fail to understand that noone can and that not every emotion outburst is a sign of abuse or mental illness.
the biggest difference between a trained psychologist and an armchair psychologist is that an expert has the experience to see and acknowledge their own blind spots, where as the amateur doesn't know what they don't know. That said, I love your analysis videos because you bring a level of expertise to the table which I don''t necessarily see elsewhere. I also enjoy seeing you break down fictional therapists - Good Will Hunting was one of my favorite series of yours (PS I'm still waiting for a "What Next" video for GWH discussing/speculating on where Will goes after his therapy ends. The movie implies that one aha! breakthrough in therapy makes him all better, but real life doesn't work like that)
The internet has seemingly forgot that characters are not real people. They’re tools in a story and don’t have near the amount of complexity required to be labeled with a serious mental condition. Diagnosis require that a professional actually talk with them (which you cannot do with a fictional character). That being said, it’s always okay to speculate and have fun with the characters and of course creators can confirm or deny it for their story, but that on a large platform, ppl should disclose that they’re not experts and the character is filling a symbolic role in the story. It’s just not how fictional characters or mental diagnosis works.
I don't know, that feels a little lazy... Especially when a character is well written and does have that complexity. There are also those characters that are clearly built to be, or be based on those who are real or even ourselves.
@@aliciafraser1835 it’s not lazy that’s just how fictional realities work. Even characters like Tony Soprano who get a prognosis by a professional in his universe has to be taken with a heap of salt when you want to diagnose his pathology compared to a real life case, because his experiences are fictional. Humans are infinitely complex and capable of anything. But we’ll never be able to fully capture the real thing with a fictional work. Again. Mental illness are REAL things that people experience and it’s something they experience every waking second. Not like a fictional character that sticks to a plot that’s predetermined by a narrative.
Yeah, but writers do draw on their experiences, and often write from that, which may include their own therapy or the mental illnesses of family members. So there may be realism involved
@@squirlmy I’m talking about ppl who have no psychology background slapping labels on characters and spreading misinformation about serious mental illnesses when discussing make-believe ppl. As realistic as a story is, it’s still a story and can’t encapsulate how complicated mental illnesses actually are. The writer might be capturing their own experiences and sure, if they confirm that the character has the disorder, then that’s the character’s disorder. However if it’s never been stated, then it can only be speculation. Again you can’t talk to a fictional character, their thoughts and actions only exist as far as the writer will take it.
@@DarkEclipce Perhaps, but personally I've learned a lot about myself, and others.... through deliberation of fictional characters. At the end of the day, those characters, unless purely comercialized and nothing else, more often that not are created from and through the real feelings and experiences of others. To act like they're just vapid nothingnesses devoid of meaningful discussion is... in my opinion, stupid. But to each their own.
I've always taken your videos as part of a conversation, since it's inherently art critique. You bring an educated voice to the table on character study, but art criticism is never "final" or "complete", no matter how many experts of different fields agree, bc art can always find a new interpretation.
That said, if you're planning on expanding on or experimenting with new commentary formats, that would be interesting too
It can be an issue for sure. Also psychoanalyzing real people from reality tv shows. I saw an article on psychology today where a therapist claimed that a person was clearly being abused-evidence by her apparent discomfort during a follow up interview. It was nuts. Saying this as a therapist
I just enjoy the idea of a character having a rich enough background, well written enough that they CAN be analyzed in a sense. Especially characters I love or despise. And it makes the ideas behind psychology more interesting when I can see it in a character, like wow ok I really see Cerceis narcissism in her love of her brother where really she just loves herself. It makes for interesting content!
I often use the psychology of fictional characters to create my own characters as an underground and superhero cartoonist.
There’s a lot of material for Kermit the Frog but I think anyone attempting to perform even a cheeky form of psychoanalysis on him would be well advised to avoid the Muppet Movies where Kermit is portraying yet another fictional character than his own :P
Actually yea you could he’s supposed to be like a leader of a group of hippies he’s obviously based off certain real people and ideas doing a breakdown of him and the rest of the muppets in a light tone with a huge main point would be really good I think.
I don't think I've ever had a decent therapist tbh, all mine have been NHS ones and the worst was after I was jumped and hospitalised by 2 randos on the street. I couldn't remember much of what actually happened and have had dissociative episodes when I get too stressed since, but when I mentioned I couldn't remember it in our first session she asked how I could be sure it happened. I still don't remember much but given the people were arrested, admitted it and jailed, and I still have the scars 10 years later I'm still convinced I was justified in walking out and refusing to see her again. I understand there are good therapists about but at the moment I think I'd have to pay for the help I actually need rather than go through the NHS and I can't afford that
I've also had bad experiences, which can be pretty much summed up by "Don't feel sad feel happy" and "That isn't working? take these pills"
which those pills for the first time in my life genuinely made me want to die
So sorry you had such an invalidating experience. That’s so frustrating to hear. I hope you are finding ways to cope. And yes, I think you had every right to walk out. Therapists are people and make mistakes, true. But invalidating the entire traumatic experience is NOT a good way to build a therapeutic alliance. Thanks for sharing, and good luck.
@@skydemon3423😢
In America, I've had therapists leave me(often to much more lucrative positions), I've had therapists fired, and no one told me any details, just he was "no longer available". I've had psychiatrists, psychologists, social workers, prescribing nurses, even a woman whose only credential was a substance abuse certification(I wrongly assumed I was doing therapy with a trained therapist). My ex had a therapist die of a heart attack and no one informed her. She showed up at his office, and was told by people in an adjoining office(not at all associated with healthcare) told her of his death. She had to make a few calls to find out what happened. And he used to fall asleep during therapy sessions! I get you're angry at the NHS, but it can get much, much worse. I've had contradictory diagnoses... I don't want to make all my treatment disasters public on social media, but I have had over a dozen treaters. Not by choice. Just for mental health care. You talk about walking out on one doctor as a big deal. I've done that on multiple occasions, and I'm not regretful of any of them. BTW most psychiatrists here don't accept Medicare, even if the patient qualified for assistance specifically for a mental illness. The compensation offered by these programs is too low, and the therapists lose money seeing such patients. And I've got suicidal on an SSRI, before it was publicly known they can cause that in people under 25 years old. Most of my providers just diagnose Major Depression, I'm not being treated for some exotic mental illness.
@@skydemon3423 happened to me and it was years before I learned of the connection between SSRIs and suicidiality.
It is a very interesting line to walk, analyzing characters as people and analyzing a story as a medium to provide meaning.
I love both this channel and Cinema Therapy.
I have come to see both as different stages in therapy.
My Little Thought Tree is before getting a diagnosis. Trying to understand the patient and steer them in the right direction.
Cinema Therapy seems to be more like explaining the diagnosis once it has been made.
Both are super important, both are absolutely necessary.
You are all amazing influences and I am glad you all exist. ❤
Thank you. As a therapist in training, I agree with much of what you’ve had to say. Interestingly, I started watching your videos and those of Cinema Therapy at about the same time. I really enjoy what they do … most of the time. But I also feel they’ve been dead wrong a few times, and Jack Sparrow is one of those. I definitely disagreed with Johno’s analysis of Antisocial personality disorder there. (Personally, I think there’s a lot of trauma, just for starters.)
Tangentially, I also disagreed STRONGLY with what Johno had to say about Johnny Depp himself during the Depp v Heard trial, over on his Mended Light channel. I totally stopped watching that channel, and it damaged my feelings about CT as well, because it damaged my trust in his judgement.
And I have to say that as their channel(s) has/have blown up (and as I’ve progressed further in school, which I started in Fall of 2021, over a year after they started), I’ve been LESS enamored of many of their videos. It’s … interesting. They’ve gotten way more commercial, too, with a bunch of big sponsorships, as opposed to the one collaboration with Lisa’s Passion for Popcorn, that always felt so homey and appropriate. Anyway …
I appreciate you grappling with these issues, and discussing your approach, and the ethical conundrums you face. I think it’s interesting to hear your thoughts, and again, I find myself agreeing with what you say about the importance of empathy and connection over diagnosis. Then again, I walked into my grad school experiences with a leaning towards non-pathologizing modalities like Narrative Therapy, so this isn’t a great surprise to me. :)
I also appreciate your calm “walking outdoors” style of videos, though I also confess I don’t always watch them. Sometimes I’ll just listen, and play my go-to game on my phone (1010, which I play in a strictly NON-competitive and Un-timed mode). I find both your videos and your voice to be soothing.
I will say that I used to like listening to Dr Grande. I do appreciate his disclaimer about “I am not really diagnosing, just speculating…” But again, the more I learned, the less I found myself in agreement with him, and the less I like his snarky, sometimes even nasty style. His earlier videos were much better, where he was covering the broader categories of diagnoses, rather than “not-diagnosing” real people. Some of those videos were helpful as I was taking the course on learning the DSM. His more recent stuff I just find grating and unnecessarily harsh and judgmental. Not as bad and irresponsible as “Dr Phil”, but not something I choose to watch anymore.
So anyway, this is a really long and rambling comment to say I like what you do, and I hope you keep doing it. And I don’t even mind your sponsorship, though I’m not personally mich of a gamer anymore, and I don’t write either stories or games. But it does sound useful if I did! 😂
Thanks again.
Season 2, episode 10 of New Amsterdam ("Code Silver"). A fictional therapist diagnoses a fictional character, who happens to be another therapist. The diagnosis was "Narcissistic personality disorder".
One therapist thinking that about another therapist rings true! 😆
I love this, thanks for bringing it up.
I really like Cinema Therapy, too, but I'm not going to lie, the way Jono sometimes sweepingly declares his opinions about certain characters as facts and readily labels them with actual diagnoses has always rubbed me the wrong way. I'm all for the idea of discussing mental disorders and other psychological phenomena using fictional examples, but I feel like it needs to be framed a certain way; I honestly wish that CT talked about the ethical concerns of a real therapist diagnosing "non-patients" in this way, be it existing public figures or even fictional characters... and that Jono didn't phrase and frame everything so definitively and confidently...
And I love your point about empathy, I think that's actually one of the main reasons why I love your content so much. It's so clear how empathetically you look at every character (or person) you talk about, and it really inspires the viewers to take a step back and do the same (I should hope). This era of social media and quick entertainment has people tending towards quick judgmenets, extremes, and black-and-white thinking, so I think the type of content you make is super important nowadays. Thank you ❤ Have a great day.
Agreed. And to be honest, Alan's defensiveness in reply to the video about Cinema Therapy was really off-putting to me. Surely there can be multiple interpretations of characters and possible diagnoses without petulant responses, especially as the video was so mindful and respectful.
@@katiek2608Yeah, they do tend to respond to criticism pretty defensively at first before checking themselves and actually trying to listen, tbh. It's happened before, and to their credit, they apologized and actually took the criticism into account afterwards. I've had a couple discussions with them in the comments in the past, too, when I disagreed with something. But it's usually been pretty respectful and cool.
I honestly don't remember Alan's reply to the video, though? I'll look it up...
@@katiek2608 So I went back and read both Alan's and Jono's response in the comment thread. But I have to disagree with you. I found both their replies perfectly respectful and valid. I don't agree with them entirely, I agree with MLTT's points more, but to me the discussion read like just that - a respectful discussion between two parties with differing opinions on a thing. It was interesting and I can see both parties' points! People are seemingly forgetting what it's like to respectfully disagree these days. I feel like MLTT and CT modelled it quite nicely there. That's my opinion at least!
I think these kinds of videos are actually exposing the weaknesses in the mental health care system. In my experience with therapists over the years, they are very biased, have pet methods and treatments, and tend to overlook anything that might not fit their favorite narrative. They scratch down words while you talk and nothing is accomplished. They recommend the same book every two weeks. Sometimes it’s a coffee table book. Sometimes they wrote it. They do not appear to remember recommending it before.
@@BeeWhistler That's interesting; I'm sorry that's been your experience with therapy. I have quite the opposite experience myself, actually. People who are qualified, take what they do seriously, actually listen and are genuinly trying to understand and *help* the person in front of them. I guess I've been very lucky. I have heard many horror stories as well, though. We do seriously need more GOOD therapists who give a shit.
My psychiatrist doesn't really focus on diagnoses, she more for focusing on my symptoms and how we can treat them. She really only uses diagnoses for her paperwork and insurance because she needs to. I have liked this approach a lot. It gets me thinking about the roots of things, then to get rapped up in an over arching look into my mental health.
I've met many, many therapists who work this way. Even when prescribing meds. They'll pick a med based on symptoms, not the diagnosis. Which is why psychiatry is taught separately from other medical specialties.
"Kermit the Frog: The Problems with Toxic Positivity"
It's Not Easy Being Green!
Next April fools day: the psychoanalysis of Kermit the frog
Bit of a tangent. I'm perseverating, tuning in and out of the video, but just hearing the anecdote about the death and job loss and how of course that might make one take a bit longer to get back on their feet helped me in this moment - so cool when processing and healing show up in the strangest ways. A therapist myself, I'm kind of just playing YT videos, trying to distract myself right now. Going through a tough time after 'losing my job' (having my contract, I believe, unfairly broken) suddenly for standing up to my clinical supervisor attempting to force me to force an assessment on a client. There were other issues cropping up (i.e. not getting paid ever over the 2 months I'd been there) so I had an interview the same day it went down with a place that was taking another therapist that was leaving and had already hired another one that left previously. Managed to keep my mood up with the momentum, and the new job seemed just about certain - geographically relatively close by, full time instead of contract which I need after no income for 2 months, and with a small time gap so my clients could have continuity of service. Now it's been 2 weeks, that job's not coming through, I have poor clients caught in between, waiting. Definitely have been feeling symptoms of anxiety for weeks, but the depression finally dropped in last week when realizing I'd have to go back to the wider job market, do the whole job search thing I think many of us hate, and likely travel a good bit to whatever job I may land. After a couple days of wallowing/feeling down and stuck, finally managed to put in resumes right before labor day weekend. Immediately got hit up by another owner with employer reviews indicating it may be a similar problematic business to the one I just left. (The US mental health system/industry's issues are a whole other issue.) "Cool, that feels good. Now I guess I just have to wait until after labor day." And I now write this on labor day. Life can be tough... But a reminder that I've gone through some traumatic shit, am still in it, my thoughts, feelings and behaviors all have a reason and a place, and above all I'm not alone, people have done this - that always helps
Self-conscious of trauma dumping - therapists generally try to avoid this. But, just as I'm talking about, we never necessarily know what can be helpful to others. Plus this was therapeutic writing for myself
Not trauma dumping at all, I thought this was a wonderful comment. One of the best things I've found about youtube is how you can get moments of connection
i don't get why some people are against the idea of analyzing/diagnosing fictional characters. I find it a good way for people who are intrigued by psychology but want to learn about it in a light funner way.
I think that it's fascinating to evaluate characters.
As a person who's in therapy, and someone who practices behavioral therapy, I think most people recognize that diagnoses are an incomplete picture of any given person. Even though giving a name to something can be helpful, most people know that it's just one facet.
Though admittedly ASD is often a label that tends to encapsulates and blankets a person in a tragic way.
I got excited at the thought of you making a video analyzing Kermit The Frog, lol
I love you videos!!! They make my heart feel seen and valued!!!❤❤
For all it's worth, I'd watch you analyze Kermit the frog! :D
I do think there is a little bit of an issue with these 'case studies' is that a lot of the disorders that make a good thumbnail or that need the exposure are also disorders that are both highly stigmatized and require highly specialized training to assess or treat, and there are going to be a lot of stigmas and inaccuracies in any mainstream work on the subject which combines with a therapist who may not be qualified to speak on the subject to create something that may look more accurate and educational than it actually is, and being fun enough to take off some of the critical thinking. I know as a system I was very hurt by Cinema Therapy's first DID video, and even as much as I appreciate the attempts to listen and learn and genuinely love their channel, I still don't entirely trust them not to speak on subjects they just aren't equipped to deal with. It's also just very easy to throw people with NPD/AsPD/etc under the bus for the sake of a video. That being said, it can also be very helpful... I liked the Jack Sparrow video mostly because it brought up the idea of a protagonist that a lot of people look up to having a stigmatized personality disorder, which probably helped at least some people work on some of the ableism/neurophobia/stigma they have absorbed about that illness.
Curious what you as a system thought about their more recent DID analyses, eg Moonknight? I haven’t seen that one, though I am curious about it.
I myself was Dxed with some dissociative traits back in the 80’s-90’s when MPD was a hot Diagnosis, so it’s always been an interest of mine. (The more accurate diagnoses, and the ones that stuck, turned out to be depression, some anxiety, and ADHD that wasn’t diagnosed till I was almost 50.) I also have friends with DID. And on top of it all, I’m in grad school towards a therapy degree. But it’s not really my specialty and probably won’t be, unless something unusual happens in my Practicum training (which I haven’t started yet). (FWIW, I mostly have worked with - as a coach/counselor for 20+ years - folks who are polyamorous/consensually non-monogamous, LGBTQ + and/or neurodiverse.)
Anyhow, that’s probably more than you needed to know to answer my question. 😂 I think I just wanted you to know it’s a serious question, and I’m curious to hear from someone else who both watches CT and has reason to be more familiar with DID from lived experience. Hope you are well.
@@DawnDavidson I was initially hesitant to watch it, so I did to answer this, and honestly, I do enjoy it. It seems like they took time to listen to systems and to specialists more and there is an understanding and appreciation of plurals and the love within systems. We would definitely be more comfortable if they'd had a DID system as a guest- even a system without DID, honestly. But it definitely feels like they tried and they approached it with compassion, and I wouldn't be surprised if they checked over their script with at least one system.
My main comments would be that while yes, rapid switches are uncommon for most (though not all) systems, and they're very disorienting when they happen and it's usually not very distinct or dramatic, the specific phrasing that he uses of "conversations don't really happen" is a bit misleading. Conversations between system members are very common, especially as systems get better at it (since it is an active goal of stabilization). These conversations are usually either completely internal or internal with the primary fronter speaking parts or all of their side aloud or through text. It's also possible to even common for system members to cofront, or share control of the body, which can be very smooth and integrated or more stilted and disconnected, and can be even sharing or not- sometimes it's 50/50 (or 25/25/25/25 or whatever) , sometimes it's 100/100, sometimes it's 75/50, etc. A lot of systems will find it easier to communicate aloud with both sides, or through texting back and forth. It's just easier to 'hear' and remember especially when there are stronger dissociative barriers at play. Sometimes internal dialogue can be very confusing, especially if you don't know each other well.
It's also just a flat out lie that integration is like "fading into the night". Alters/system members/plurans/whatever term used very rarely disappear. Most systems do not have an "orginal" and while the result of a fusion with an original if one does exist may still refer to themself as the original or even use the same name they will not be the same person. It's just not how that works; those experiences blend. When it comes to fusing, 1+1=1, if that makes sense. Integration is also not the same thing as fusion. Integration generally refers to getting closer to each other, communication gets easier, there's less memory loss or the memory loss isn't as startling- fusion refers specifically to two or more alters (including the host/original/core which are three entirely different things) joining together to become one person with (most of) the memories of both. It's possible to be more like one person than the other (I myself am a fusion between a previous host and a traumaholder/persecutor/caretaker and I consider myself a continuation of the latter, but not the former, though I have their memories and emotions, and not as an entirely separate 3rd person)- but that is rare, and even then, they are fundamentally different. It's not "returning to" anything- that's impossible, there's too many new experiences. Unfusing is the same way; it's possible to unfuse into people that resemble the original fusees, but the new experience will still have changed them and some pieces will have been put back differently.
They don't mention the unrealistic aspects of the show as much as they could, but I'm not totally sure they *should* or if they could- it's obviously going to be dramatic, it's a superhero tv show. I like that Decker acknowledges that he's messed up in the past. It seems like he's genuinely trying to be a positive influence and he's listening and he's learning. The video is clearly not written with systems or people with DID in mind as the audience (which is fine), but it doesn't feel like we're being exploited as content, either, which the first video did.
Tl;dr, for me as an individual within a system, I think the Moon Knight video specifically is a good example of what this kind of content should be. It's compassionate, he's not talking over anyone, it seems like they did research into it instead of relying on the one case of DID Decker has treated (that, from the story of it, was *extremely* atypical). It's de-stigmatizing, and also it doesn't force
systems into the ideal of Independence and Singlet-ness which is honestly much better than even a lot of specialists do. 15/10 good job
Story time: I have this silly game in my head where I make up conversation with people I know in my head, when I have nothing to do (like on the bus). It never leads to anything its just me talking to myself, helps me past the time. Sometimes I do it with fictional characters or people I don't know anything about. (Did it since I was a kid) For example when Ukriane was attacked I imagined a converstation with Putin, where I would try to convince him to stop what he was doing. Or I imagine my friend, what would she say to cheer me up. And it can go many ways like with Putin I failed in the end, so it made me more heartbroken. Even in this silly game where I control everything still couldn't stop him. But it can go the other direction my friend could say something I never thought about (ofc I did because its me talking to myself). But I bring this up even if I never meet them I have a clear idea of what the other person I am having this converstation are gonna say. And while watching the video I was thinking wow I would love to talk to this person it would be an interesting converstation. And usually these kind of statements leads to a made up convestation in my head, but with you I can't do it. Simply because (I think) our views are too similar to have this made up converstation. Not just your ideas, its hard to explain, but you have a certain flow, when you make these kind of videos, thats kind of the same how I approach "arguments" (Also the point you made its more about asking questions then trying to figure out the person, love it) I am bringing this up because I was thinking "Wow I have similar approach to people as therapist. Cool!" So thank you for the dopamin hit!
Thanks for the story, I do something kinda similar sometimes too
There is a big difference between attacking someone in a video and giving a possible perspective that may lead others to introspection and reflection.
You and Cinema Therapy seem to be doing your best to show a take on a scenario as presented. Just as in real life you will never have all the info, you have to fill in the gaps. Maybe it will miss the mark, maybe it won't. However it can often lead ME, the viewer, in seeing how my own actions and thoughts may lead me down certain paths. Honestly, in a far better capacity than real life therapists I have encountered in the past.
I like your videos and your repeated assurances that 'this is not a real person' 'i'm just guessing' "obviously, not everyone raised by genocidal maniacs will kill their village, but here's why X did it..."
I would watch the heck out of My Little Thought Tree analyzing Kermit the Frog.
lol, there is truly really people who don’t understand Ned Stark and his motivations… I don’t know why but I just have great shame for our society when a good man is unrelatable but the bad guy makes sense? I love Ned, the sharks and Jon, literally the only real good people in the show…
Since the primary component of a successful therapeutic effort is the relationship between the individual and the counselor, then perhaps the parasocial relationship offered by the CZcams provides a path for that para-empathy or para-affirmation that some feel from your discussion of these characters.
I would love a channel that does characters in literature
As a social worker, I got tired of this over psychoanalyzing and labeling years ago
man, youtube's compression is balls these days
Are there other sections that you haven't editied and included in the video as of yet ?😢
this might be just a lack of exposure to the variety of character analysis videos out there, but I feel like people who have specific diagnoses that relate to a particular character are sometimes left out to a certain degree in giving an opinion on videos that diagnose characters, like not always, but in all honesty sometimes having a large group of people with whatever diagnosis saying a character probably has that same diagnosis feels like it has a little more... weight? than one single therapist
there's exceptions to this of course, but since a character isn't a real person and you can't truly know them, the people who relate to them matter a lot
also in terms of writer intent ect... on the other side of explaining away bad behavior that the writer didn't intend as bad with in world analysis, on the other side of the coin that is for in world analysis - I do also think it's important to recognize and point out the situations when a writer might actually be more judgmental and harsh on a character in the way that they frame their actions because they have internal biases towards behavior that is often associated with certain disorders that they wrote into a character and may or may not be aware of. I think both things are important to consider
Would you ever cover the characters from Pride and Prejudice?
Can you please do a psychology video on Peter III on the great? Seems like a 'fun' one. HAZAH!
I would be interested in your opinion on Dr Grande?
That would be interesting but to be quite honest, I've only seen like two of his videos, so I don't wanna make sweeping statements on either side without learning more. Is his channel worth watching? I seem to find so little time to watch anything nearly as much as I should do 😆
Oh man I personally really enjoy dr g, he has such dry humor and mostly makes logical sense no matter the argument. I don’t always agree with him but that would be weird and boring if I did.
This is a good interesting video
Im surprised at how many viewd this video, but so little seem to like it, not that they dislike it though. Just what, is this mediocre? I think this is awesome. What i mean is, this is meant to help stay focused on what art is and what the difference is between real life.
I'm watching any video who deconstructs Azula's character or psyche😭😭😭
will you ever do Daenerys analysis? 👀
but a video about Kermit the Frog (tm) would be quite interesting!
I already feel the need to coment and the video has only just started. Psychoanalysis of fictional characters is only flawed if you don't include their creators, and their inspiration.
The difference between you and them is that you listen to criticism, even if you don't like it, if people give you a good reason for their opinion you don't belittle them fir it by saying shit like, I'm a psychologist so I know better. Egos are causing the problems to get worse. I may not agree with everything you have to say, but my experience has taught me how to tell the difference between a ego and a good heart, and I don't think you're arrogant, just misguided on occasions.
There no reason to not bond with your patients. All thats needed is self belief and control. If you have a bond,you dont need a paycheck to help them you can treat them like someone you care about outside of the office and it heals them better than being a statistic on someones career portfolio. The biggest problem this world has is it's brainwashed into loving control more than trust. Tryst us seen as a weakness to be exploited and feared. But is you're brave enough to open you're heart, you will eventually learn to tell the difference between the 2.
.... Please analyse Kermit :) :)
I think it's fine for therapists to talk about characters and try to understand their psychologies, but I don't think it's ever valid for them--- or lay people, for that matter--- to *diagnose* the characters in a way the story never does. That ruins storytelling by explaining away all of the problems and jumbled up wires in the characters' heads and souls!
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Side note: monkey d luffy has adhd right? Lol like no way luffy doesn't have adhd right?
+ vote for Kermit the Frog video
Why not psychoanalyze kermit the frog? I dont see the issue
I mean, you're not wrong. I'd probably find it fun
Bit of (hopefully constructive) Feedback: When you're making a video about a genuine thing talking to us your viewers directly and wanting as to think about/feel like you're making a genuine point, a self deprecating 'Lampshade' comment about how the sponsor segment now will undermine most of the tone, will not make the fact that you ARE undermining the tone and message somewhat any less true.
I'm VERY certain you didn't mean it like that but it made my brain immediately go from "he is trying to talk about a topic that's important to him" to a part of it going "does he even mean any of this?". Imagine having a thoughtful heartfelt conversation with a friend and mid conversation he goes 'before we continue can you buy this subscription I'm selling? I need the cash!' ...regardless of whether you would do this for your friend or not the thoughtful / heartfelt conversation is done at that moment!
I realize 95% you didn't mean it like that but when you're making a direct conversation video maybe move world anvil to the end of the video or right after the intro (i.e. say "this is a topic dear to my heart I don't wnat to interrupt so let me start with my sponsor this time") or skip the monetisation for a week. I'm 100% on board with paying the bills with a sponsorship as a video creator but the very fact that you were AWARE how the sponsor placement affected our ability to take the video seriously and still went ahead with it unchanged (thinking that pointing it out would somehow negate it) left an aftertaste.
I hope you take this in the spirit of Feedback it is intended as. I do enjoy your videos and thoughts but this one felt somewhat unneeded (and admitedly I have a bit of a thing with people thinking the statement 'just a joke' will make the words after ok so take it with that grain of salt 😉) 💕
I don't take it in bad faith at all ☺️ I'd argue I'm passionate about all the videos I make and most definitely passionate about world anvil, hence they're the only I ever partner with, but it is hard to slip them into videos in ways that feel authentic and also not repetitive because I feel like if I did it the same each time, it'd lose its sincerity after a while, so I don't think you're wrong or being harsh at all