Picture a perfect society. What does it look like? - Joseph Lacey

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  • Dig into political philosopher John Rawls’ classic thought experiment about what principles we need to design a fair society.
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    A group of strangers have gathered to design a just society. To ensure none of them rig the system, they’ve been placed under a veil of ignorance. Under this veil, they’re blind to information about age, sex, profession, wealth, religion, and so on. Can they build a fair society where everyone has the resources they need? Joseph Lacey details John Rawls' classic thought experiment.
    Lesson by Joseph Lacey, directed by Eoin Duffy.
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Komentáře • 585

  • @TEDEd
    @TEDEd  Před 21 dnem +113

    Healthy democracies rely on informed citizens. Unpack more democratic principles and jumpstart your own engagement at ed.ted.com/democracy-lab

    • @johnbraithwaite863
      @johnbraithwaite863 Před 21 dnem +2

      Name one.

    • @boxhunter9742
      @boxhunter9742 Před 21 dnem

      too good to be true I don't buy it

    • @Plusimurfriend
      @Plusimurfriend Před 21 dnem

      a naive manchild made this video

    • @civilengineer3349
      @civilengineer3349 Před 21 dnem +1

      Wrong. Healthy democracy should rely on giving people choice. Forced education is not choice

    • @dsoul1305
      @dsoul1305 Před 21 dnem

      "Healthy nations" is an oxymoron. Only the top classes thinks it can exist such thing. They are nonetheless unable to target the reasons of why classes exist in the first place.

  • @pingidjit
    @pingidjit Před 21 dnem +211

    I definitely agree on a limit of campaign spending and donations. I also think there should not be a minimum wage but a maximum wage. That maximum wage being % based on the wages of all employees within the company. If a CEO wants themselves and upper management to earn more, than all their employees have to earn more. It would encourage a stronger work environment, decrease stress, and promote innovation.
    Politicians would not be able to earn more than the average wage of all the people they govern. Encouraging them to make policies that benefit their citizens health, education, capabilities, etc in order to be higher wage earners. This would also make it more likely that people that want to help others would be politicans rather than the power and money hungry folks.

    • @elvis1745
      @elvis1745 Před 20 dny +21

      and ban lobbying

    • @foy5051
      @foy5051 Před 20 dny +19

      Maximum wage is a new one for me, but it somewhat makes sense if we also include managing certain fringe/side benefits, like shares in a company

    • @RespectLoveUnityPeace
      @RespectLoveUnityPeace Před 20 dny +18

      I’ve been arguing for a maximum wage since the 80s when trickle-down economics began increasing the wealth gap to the worst in history. No single person should own $100 billion…

    • @BicBoi1984
      @BicBoi1984 Před 19 dny +2

      You don't understand how the economy works lol

    • @pingidjit
      @pingidjit Před 19 dny +1

      @@BicBoi1984 The 'economy' as the term is used today is a made up system by humans. It doesn't exist. The reality is that people are the economy. The workforce makes up the economy.
      Ever notice that when people have less money and less employment that is when the economy tanks? People are the economy. Give them stability in work and money and they will keep the economy strong and stable in return. Its truly that simple.
      If you think otherwise you are likely misled by those who wanted to keep their slaves whose 'teachings' have infested into capitalist doctrine.

  • @EoinDuffyAnimation
    @EoinDuffyAnimation Před 21 dnem +469

    🎉🙌 So proud to have worked on this! Glad to have to out there :)

    • @Gordy-io8sb
      @Gordy-io8sb Před 21 dnem +4

      Yeah, uh did you know they made a video directly contradicting this one? They denounced the idea of a utopia in "How to recognize a dystopia". You're working with a bunch of hypocrites.

    • @ThrashRats
      @ThrashRats Před 21 dnem +51

      @@Gordy-io8sb its funny, because if you cared to even watch the video rather than read the titles you'd know the Dystopia video is about literally dystopias and their presence in books affected the past, whilst this one talks on an author's theory on a better government system.
      That's without saying that Ted-Ed is more of a video-based forum article. Of course there's a checking, but each writer decides the focus of their own work. That's what the names by the side of the titles are for.
      I don't always agree with their videos, but they are good content.

    • @tf5pZ9H5vcAdBp
      @tf5pZ9H5vcAdBp Před 21 dnem +15

      Thanks for making an animation so attention grabbing that I had to turn it off the second time through so I could focus on the words.

    • @Astro_Rohan
      @Astro_Rohan Před 21 dnem +1

      How does one into animating for Ted-Ed?

    • @maths_nerd
      @maths_nerd Před 21 dnem +16

      ​@@Gordy-io8sbSo what? They are simply conveying the idea of the author. Are you trying to say that a teacher should not teach his students about Communism because he taught Capitalism last week?

  • @kishanpandya5919
    @kishanpandya5919 Před 21 dnem +444

    I had to watch it twice. Second time just to focus on the audio.
    The graphics are simply phenomenal!

    • @shanynidam8943
      @shanynidam8943 Před 21 dnem +2

      I'm aiming for 3, this kind of debates make me want to think about more and more "what ifs" and that is also fun. Maybe 4🤓

    • @marc_frank
      @marc_frank Před 20 dny +10

      i found them useless
      pretty, but useless

    • @hetzarrow6957
      @hetzarrow6957 Před 19 dny

      Always...

    • @TheAlgeriano9
      @TheAlgeriano9 Před 18 dny

      Prophet Muhammad's rule created the perfect society in early Islam era.

    • @fishtrick1_
      @fishtrick1_ Před 17 dny +3

      Um no it didn’t

  • @michealwestfall8544
    @michealwestfall8544 Před 21 dnem +50

    Building from the ground up is easy but changing existing structures is hard. People don't want to be told that they're not special, and the 10 years they spent growing 1 million dollars to 2 million dollars wasn't hard and most people could do it if they started with 1 million dollars and it wasn't hard work that got them there.

  • @anthonycroisier80
    @anthonycroisier80 Před 20 dny +38

    Apart from the quality content, we often praise the relentless creativity of TEDed's illustrations, but let's all appreciate for a moment how well thought is the sound design of these videos! The attention for such details shows how the creators are dedicated to their work! Thank you, TEDed Team, for your awesome work!🙌

  • @EEE-1409
    @EEE-1409 Před 21 dnem +54

    I love these videos so much. The illustrations make it so easy to understand and fascinating topics are always explored! Well done!!

    • @rajeshkumar-ws7bx
      @rajeshkumar-ws7bx Před 21 dnem +5

      The illustrations is just color shapes floating around the screen....what's so understanding in that

    • @EEE-1409
      @EEE-1409 Před 21 dnem +3

      @@rajeshkumar-ws7bx I'm a visual person. It does help.
      And the shapes are supposed to represent all the different types of people in the world

  • @Pontius_Pilate1
    @Pontius_Pilate1 Před 21 dnem +78

    I’m waiting on the ‘how to build a dystopia’ sequel

  • @Sunflowersarepretty
    @Sunflowersarepretty Před 21 dnem +143

    Free education or at least good quality and cheaper education along with cheaper medical care would be my version of Utopia in this world. I know places in the west have it but its not everywhere. Either the quality of education and health care is sub par or they're expensive.

    • @ThrashRats
      @ThrashRats Před 21 dnem +29

      The problem with free services is they allow pathways to corruption, as an example here in South America, we've got the free services, but they are perfect excuses for money to disappear into whilst our schools are falling apart. Without proper ways to fight corruption you end up with a bloated system that burns through millions each year to still give the bare minimum help, just like here where if you look to use the free medical system you'll be on a waitlist for at least a month.

    • @SandyTaylor-tv6fc
      @SandyTaylor-tv6fc Před 21 dnem +1

      Without free education a society always becomes a plutocracy (ruled by the rich) because the rich have unaccountable power over the education system because it's run for profit

    • @civilengineer3349
      @civilengineer3349 Před 21 dnem

      A good student can learn in a bad school. A bad student can't learn in a good school

    • @dsoul1305
      @dsoul1305 Před 21 dnem +14

      South America's corruption problems are majorly attached to foreigner interests in continuying the corruption to hinder development. There are countless historical examples of countries trying to fix their issues and receiving outside intervention. A just society allows for true competition, in inside and outside markets.

    • @ThrashRats
      @ThrashRats Před 21 dnem

      @dsoul1305 As a South American. Peruvian, to be precise. I completely disagree. The closest thing to direct outsider intervention have been two cases.
      Operacion Condor that tried to counterract the international plan of multiple communist parties on overtalinf their countries goverments.
      And how the ONU have constantly tried to safeguard members of Sendero Luminoso and the MRTA. Terrorist groups that were horrible in this country.

  • @SciMinute
    @SciMinute Před 21 dnem +240

    It’s artistic in one sense and philosophical in another!

  • @Puppeteer_in_the_Void
    @Puppeteer_in_the_Void Před 20 dny

    I like the unique artstyle. I admire the brilliance it takes to give those shapes the meanings they have

  • @XRaym
    @XRaym Před 20 dny +2

    The creativity behind these animations is outstanding!!

  • @higztv1166
    @higztv1166 Před 21 dnem +41

    cool shapes

  • @tf5pZ9H5vcAdBp
    @tf5pZ9H5vcAdBp Před 21 dnem +4

    2:40 so ultimately there are still offices and the majority is still the rule even if it's wrong. That's how your utopia ends.

  • @EcomCarl
    @EcomCarl Před 9 dny

    the vision for a just society under the veil of ignorance is a compelling reminder of the importance of fairness in our foundational structures. It challenges us to consider how policies might be shaped if we prioritized the well-being of the least advantaged from the start. 👍

  • @auliarachma1476
    @auliarachma1476 Před 21 dnem +1

    I really love the simplicity of this animation

  • @freshavocadew
    @freshavocadew Před 21 dnem +40

    4:40 excellent animation

  • @VerticalFries
    @VerticalFries Před 21 dnem +1

    Great video, and the animation is also remarkable

  • @Puppeteer_in_the_Void
    @Puppeteer_in_the_Void Před 19 dny +1

    This in combination with my world history class made me think of something interesting. We might be as far from the peak of idealogical progress as we are from the peak of scientific proogress

  • @RadhakrishnanSrinathan
    @RadhakrishnanSrinathan Před 20 dny +296

    For every like I'll study for 1 hour

  • @user-er6tw5xr6w
    @user-er6tw5xr6w Před 18 dny +2

    Is the whole video just an experiment to check if people can focus when there are colored shapes on the screen?

  • @Agnal_the_writer_and_poet
    @Agnal_the_writer_and_poet Před 21 dnem +1

    It would be great if you make a video on the little prince

  • @Elizabeth_the_Loaf
    @Elizabeth_the_Loaf Před 21 dnem +10

    Great video! The simplistic shape artstyle with the light sound effects makes this very entertaining to watch.

    • @Sigma_Male_Anti_Female
      @Sigma_Male_Anti_Female Před 21 dnem +3

      You only had 4 minutes to watch this.

    • @rajeshkumar-ws7bx
      @rajeshkumar-ws7bx Před 21 dnem

      With people dozing off on colours and shapes ... people sell fiction and get away with it

    • @Sigma_Male_Anti_Female
      @Sigma_Male_Anti_Female Před 21 dnem

      @@rajeshkumar-ws7bx Huh?

    • @Elizabeth_the_Loaf
      @Elizabeth_the_Loaf Před 21 dnem

      @My_pfp_beats_all_dog_breeds. I had to stop watching a third of the way in and come back, but I could see the artstyle and hear the sound immediately.

  • @mashupotato_
    @mashupotato_ Před 21 dnem

    One critique of Rawlsian Justice is also found in American political theorist Iris Marion Young's "Justice and the Politics of Difference." For Young, there is a need to displace Rawls's distributive account of justice because it blurs the overarching social institutions that help perpetuate injustices.

  • @modas2664
    @modas2664 Před 21 dnem

    Is this animation done with Adobe after effect?

  • @ChalkyMuffin969
    @ChalkyMuffin969 Před 21 dnem +95

    That utopia relies on heavy state control while also being a democracy while also still being capitalist, basically it believes that a utopia can be done today without changing anything of our material conditions and hoping it works by ideas alone and the famously "infinite benevolence of our rulers" this is truly just a thought experiment, and a very unimaginative one at that.

    • @jayl5032
      @jayl5032 Před 21 dnem +6

      I wouldn't call it unimaginative. Rawls dove pretty heavily into many aspects of this utopia. It's a fun and interesting thought process. It would never work, people are just too greedy, but it's neat to think about nonetheless.

    • @ChalkyMuffin969
      @ChalkyMuffin969 Před 21 dnem +22

      @@jayl5032 Yes he dove into many aspects, but what I meant with "unimaginative" is how he is unable to imagine a world, even a utopia, outside of capitalism and its logic, it truly is easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism

    • @xinfinity4756
      @xinfinity4756 Před 21 dnem +4

      @@ChalkyMuffin969 To his credit its not as though a better option with better real world results exists to be drawn on. Outside of options with real world results it obviously would just be a purely hypothetical thought experiment with no grounding in reality

    • @wolfVFV
      @wolfVFV Před 20 dny +1

      Well universal basic income works in some states.
      Wealth inequality will happen automaticly. And stuff like taxes may allow poorer people too live better lifes.
      Limit on campaign spending is easy.

    • @onebear6504
      @onebear6504 Před 20 dny

      The more vague (fuzzy and convoluted) it is, the harder to argue against it. Anyways, wonder if this originates the whole woke thing, where "victim" groups become "bully" groups while those in power stays in power.

  • @wolfVFV
    @wolfVFV Před 20 dny +1

    My main problem with this thought experiment are the architects
    If you do not know anything about yourself what opinions do you have? Arent your opinions you make based on your past experiences? F.e. sexism/racism towards you
    And if you remove the past experiences then what is left? What opinion can someone have with no past?

  • @bandiharshith2678
    @bandiharshith2678 Před 18 dny +2

    The Animation is outstanding!
    But I don't get how is it related to the subject.

  • @user-xo4rz4tz6n
    @user-xo4rz4tz6n Před 17 dny

    Great thanks for these contents❤
    But I've a question why am I not catching the deep meanig surely I have fascination for the videos of ted ed

  • @jayl5032
    @jayl5032 Před 21 dnem +2

    Limits on governemental power and corporate power. That's all, really. The democratic market system can do pretty good if it's not bogged down by a million arbitrary gov/company rules and their simultaneous strangle hold on the economy.

  • @clementlettuce
    @clementlettuce Před 21 dnem

    beautiful art

  • @user-js5nv4pw4r
    @user-js5nv4pw4r Před 21 dnem +13

    Yeah this sounds good in theory, but what about in practice

    • @funkydiscogod
      @funkydiscogod Před 21 dnem

      Hundreds of millions have died in pursuit of utopia.

    • @oscarcorona3857
      @oscarcorona3857 Před 21 dnem +8

      I would highly recommend picking up Theory of justice. Rawls goes into a lot more detail about pragmatic aspects of his theory. His theory came out of his experiences in WW2 in japan so I think he takes into account human nature a lot more than most other political philosophers

    • @steelcladCompliant
      @steelcladCompliant Před 21 dnem

      It practice it deviates from standard capitalism just enough, that the CIA orchestrates a coup in the offending nation

    • @matttt60
      @matttt60 Před 20 dny

      @@oscarcorona3857 I dont believe in anything as "human nature" humans behave badly in our society because we live in a terrible system that made them act like that. In most isolate societies, collaboration and empathy are the standard

  • @Cybernaut551
    @Cybernaut551 Před 15 dny

    Brilliant storytelling.

  • @beyond-the-equation
    @beyond-the-equation Před 19 dny

    Wow, this video really got me thinking about what a utopian society would be like! I love exploring thought-provoking topics like this on my channel too. Maybe I should make a video sharing my vision of a perfect world and invite my viewers to join the discussion!

  • @danvikkilmire6075
    @danvikkilmire6075 Před 21 dnem +42

    Hmm, pretty vague

    • @funkydiscogod
      @funkydiscogod Před 21 dnem +21

      That's the point: the vaguer it is, the more difficult it is to argue against it.

    • @JuanRodrigez-vq9kv
      @JuanRodrigez-vq9kv Před 20 dny +7

      I mean to me it's just social democracy, nothing really new in his theory

    • @antoniomonaco4582
      @antoniomonaco4582 Před 18 dny +4

      Its a five minutes video. Are you really complaining that it is vague? Go read the book then

    • @danvikkilmire6075
      @danvikkilmire6075 Před 18 dny

      @@antoniomonaco4582 k

  • @Squalidarity
    @Squalidarity Před 21 dnem +6

    What’s striking about Rawls’ proposal is the unspoken assumption that social inequality and injustice, rather than resulting from and being maintained by political systems, are instead natural and inevitable.
    For instance, he proposes that the architects would provide generous welfare and unemployment benefits to keep anyone from falling through the cracks. But those programs are only necessary because our society ties the ability to get the necessities of life to employment, and uses that as a means to coerce people into doing menial, exhausting, or even dangerous labor. Would a just society recreate such exploitation? Evidently, for Rawls, the answer is yes, despite the fact that this directly contradicts the goal of granting everyone the bare minimum needed to live and pursue their own goals.
    It’s like he _wants_ to say “society should be organized on the understanding that everyone will try to provide for others in whatever way they can to the best of their ability, and will be provided for in turn, even if they may need more or less than someone else” but then chickens out cause he doesn’t want to say the C word lol.

    • @Rikri
      @Rikri Před 21 dnem

      While I would agree, I think the issue with that last idea is that it's a bit unrealistic to strive for in the current state of society.

    • @Squalidarity
      @Squalidarity Před 19 dny +3

      @@Rikri I would counter that if you allow your political horizons and practice to be defined by the ruling ontology, by what is “realistic” within the current system, you’ll never succeed at changing anything.

    • @Rikri
      @Rikri Před 19 dny

      @@Squalidarity I mean yes, if you had full control over the political system then I'd be on board with that; but that's only really going to happen if a revolution happens I think

  • @ryanandpeople9401
    @ryanandpeople9401 Před 21 dnem +3

    Does this have any applications? I sure think so but not one size fits all

  • @FiveChannelW
    @FiveChannelW Před 21 dnem +1

    It's an interesting thought, but because of our politicians and some people who really control our democracies, I think it's very difficult for us to come close to this ideology one day. 😢

  • @kibitz2327
    @kibitz2327 Před 21 dnem +1

    Democracy devolves into majority rule, need a centralized authority to protect any of these rules/rights.

  • @rishikakrishna
    @rishikakrishna Před 21 dnem

    EXACTLY

  • @antisocialbred
    @antisocialbred Před 15 dny

    if this utopia depends on government regulation, how are we to expect that government officials will appropriately distribute wealth and opportunity? and how will we evaluate worthiness of wealth?

  • @john_hunter_
    @john_hunter_ Před 21 dnem +5

    He's trying to merge 2 opposing concepts.
    He wants individual will, but at the same time he wants everyone to agree to the same system.
    This can be done but it requires a system where you raise the next generation to conform to the same system.
    So their individual will is in agreement with everyone else's.

    • @mashupotato_
      @mashupotato_ Před 21 dnem

      Yea, that's why Nozick comes into the picture and says: The welfare state cannot dictate what I want to do with my life -- it cannot tax me for the sake of the poor.

    • @john_hunter_
      @john_hunter_ Před 20 dny +3

      ​@@mashupotato_ People like Nozick are the ones raised with narcissistic & self serving desires.
      Their actions hurt communities.
      The most successful communities are the ones that cooperate to survive.
      If Nozick was raised with good moral values, he would willingly help the poor without being forced to.

  • @estelasantos8184
    @estelasantos8184 Před 21 dnem +1

    the problem is that there is no material way to implement histoughts, it is idealism

    • @JuanRodrigez-vq9kv
      @JuanRodrigez-vq9kv Před 20 dny +1

      Absolutely, he didn't want to account our different personal interest in his vision of a just society he didn't want an unbiased view of justice instead he didn't want to acknowledge his own

  • @deutschesmaedchen2851
    @deutschesmaedchen2851 Před 18 dny

    This type of thought experiment was in a way shown in novels like 1984.

  • @Draghoul03
    @Draghoul03 Před 20 dny +30

    Real story, I actually heard about John Rawl's work through a mobile gacha game called Girl's Frontline. Near the end of the first act of the story the game just throughs a quote on screen: "The only thing that permits us to acquiesce in an erroneous theory is the lack of a better one; analogously, an injustice is tolerable only when it is necessary to avoid an even greater injustice. Being first virtues of human activities, truth and justice are uncompromising." While the characters discuss how to move forward to try and save as many lives as they can while still accomplishing their larger goal of ending the current war. This is (one of the reasons) why video games are art, even mobile games

    • @MaekarManastorm
      @MaekarManastorm Před 18 dny

      No one cares

    • @Draghoul03
      @Draghoul03 Před 18 dny +6

      @@MaekarManastorm Then why did you care enough to reply?

    • @okiahmadzulkifli2213
      @okiahmadzulkifli2213 Před 18 dny

      Every fiction narrative, either in games, novels, movies, comics, etc. portrays certain values that could change our worldview. That's why some called it the contestation of ideas. It is up to us to filter out certain values that might not align with reality.

    • @Draghoul03
      @Draghoul03 Před 18 dny +7

      @@okiahmadzulkifli2213 I don’t think “filtering out” disagreeable ideas is practical. We should at least acknowledge they exist so we can address them and explain to ourselves and others why they’re wrong

  • @entangledatoms7153
    @entangledatoms7153 Před 21 dnem +2

    It’d be great if something at least close to this could happen, but that’s not gonna happen. We at least start though, in which I’ll say: why don’t we decrease some of those profoundly high and needless budgets, and also let’s make our country look as good as Europe’s countries so we can look at beautiful things when we go outside.
    (I won’t lie, that’s actually a big leap for today’s U.S, so perhaps something a bit easier to change, like better political leaders)

  • @toonwachi600
    @toonwachi600 Před 21 dnem +1

    Please make the video "The rise and fall of the British Empire" please. 🇬🇧

  • @Ignorance-is-a-tool
    @Ignorance-is-a-tool Před 21 dnem +6

    Ted is always so captivating with its animations and explainations, loved the vid!

  • @quangminh9873
    @quangminh9873 Před 21 dnem +1

    *Hmm yes, perfect video to watch during dinner*

  • @Andy_Hendrix_9842
    @Andy_Hendrix_9842 Před 21 dnem

    What a coincidence! I was just thinking about this...

  • @HIFLY01
    @HIFLY01 Před 21 dnem +1

    Mono culture and way of living is the only way honestly. When everyone is the same with the same goals, no one will oppose it and try to change and cause problems.
    You cant mix people who want to do X their way with people who want to do Y the completely opposite way and expect there to not be conflict

    • @OneWayTicketToTheMoon
      @OneWayTicketToTheMoon Před 21 dnem

      We are all different and I wouldn't want to be the same as the next person. It would be a very boring world. Where no one could have ideas or use their imagination. A Stepford world.

    • @HIFLY01
      @HIFLY01 Před 21 dnem

      @@OneWayTicketToTheMoon thats what it takes to have a utopia tho

  • @marcusmoonstein242
    @marcusmoonstein242 Před 21 dnem

    Probably the best theory of social fairness I've heard. I would argue for a welfare system that meets basic human needs at the bottom, but with no cap on income at the top. I would justify this with a progressive income tax system that taxed higher income people more and then used that tax revenue to finance the welfare system. According to Rawls increased wealth at the top is justifiable only if it benefits those at the bottom in some way, and that's exactly what a progressive income tax does.

  • @jessicanolanbowers1
    @jessicanolanbowers1 Před 11 dny

    Amazing!

  • @lynnboartsdye1943
    @lynnboartsdye1943 Před 21 dnem +2

    I think not being able to draw from your experiences to at least a small degree would feel a bit impossible for me to comprehend if I’m working with a group of strangers. On the one hand I also don’t want the system created to tip more power into one or more parties hands. I think regardless of how you set up this thought experiment there are things that our current system denies us that should be considered human rights.
    For example my utopia would include:
    Universal human rights/anti discrimination policy
    Free healthcare
    Accessibility for physically and mentally disabled
    Free Education both basic and higher
    Non negotiable free housing, food and water
    Walkable cities
    People should come over profit period, you’re not a bad person for wanting more than your basic needs. assuming you’re not wanting to commit murder or hurt other people for what you want.

  • @Lemon-ej4pn
    @Lemon-ej4pn Před 20 dny

    God i love love love the animation!

  • @user-wz5ep2zp4x
    @user-wz5ep2zp4x Před 21 dnem +1

    Good😊

  • @wesleydeng71
    @wesleydeng71 Před 20 dny

    Better to allow the society to evolve on its own. If you try to "design" a society, disasters are bound to happen.

  • @OutlawMaxV
    @OutlawMaxV Před 21 dnem +2

    His proposition solves nothing as it stills relies on government as we know it to be benevolent, but we all know far to well what happens when power accumulates in one entity

  • @flickeringtorch
    @flickeringtorch Před 18 dny

    Hey TED-ED, I thought you might like to know that whenever the narrator says "watch THIS video", the video card doesn't show up on the screen the way it used to. Why is that?

  • @aliengeo
    @aliengeo Před 8 dny

    I think the veil of ignorance is a nice idea for a thought experiment, but I don't think it accounts for the entire situation.
    For example, most of what people guess about my disabilities is wrong. The things they think would be helpful, what they imagine my experience to be like, etc.
    So why, under the veil of ignorance, would they be any better at it? It isn't as if they'd have more information, just ignorance of their own body state.

  • @Dantick09
    @Dantick09 Před 20 dny

    The perfect society is where I am at the top and command absolute power through fear

  • @Friendship1nmillion
    @Friendship1nmillion Před 20 dny

    Change DOESN'T come JUST only from talking But from ACTION as well .
    ♑️✍️🇳🇴🇦🇺

  • @michalpicker6934
    @michalpicker6934 Před 21 dnem +1

    Gee, I just hope people would do this thing. And if they do, then, little by little, we'll have an actual utopian world.

  • @nathanwindom3978
    @nathanwindom3978 Před 20 dny

    Nice motion graphics, yo!

  • @quotes612
    @quotes612 Před 13 dny

    I love the animation

  • @JoeyP946
    @JoeyP946 Před 14 dny

    I imagine myself as the only human left.
    Perfect society

  • @Father_Omar
    @Father_Omar Před 20 dny

    Humans are too complex and the issue of how many resources do we have and multiple societies emerging and combating each other still exist, a society like the one theorized here is fundamentally and ridiculously implausible

  • @RidireOiche
    @RidireOiche Před 21 dnem +2

    Here me out... we make a fleet of the ship from Wall-E, enough for everybody and live there. Perfectly equal society. Or and this is probably more realistic, we end the practice of trickle down economics, apply rubber banding to wealth, close all tax loopholes, and end the normalising of workarounds with insanely high fines that divide wealth of the fraudsters to a high fraction if they try to cheat the system.

  • @cirecrux
    @cirecrux Před 21 dnem

    what shape are we

  • @neerajpeddu6017
    @neerajpeddu6017 Před 16 dny

    I don't know what I heard, but all I saw were shapes dancing around the entire screen

  • @rajeshkumar-ws7bx
    @rajeshkumar-ws7bx Před 21 dnem +1

    A colony which gave up on past color, creed, boundary, existing hierarchy, to plunge into void to spread this colony

  • @user-oh9me1sx7l
    @user-oh9me1sx7l Před 21 dnem +8

    Your videos truly helpful ❤

  • @opwave79
    @opwave79 Před 21 dnem

    Just hold a giant cookout once a week and everyone will come together, nosh on darn good food, have a couple laughs, and leave full and happy.

  • @falcychead8198
    @falcychead8198 Před 4 dny

    I haven't the knowledge or wisdom to create a functional society, let alone a perfect one. I just want a society where reason and compassion are the norm rather than the exception. I just want a world where it's not "woke" to have a heart, and it's not weird and unsexy to use your brain. I think such a society would sort itself out.

  • @guncolony
    @guncolony Před 14 dny

    This is my critique of the idea:
    There is a drastic intrinsic inequality in human competence when it comes to elite fields like science. Giving the best people disproportionate resources seems to work! That's how we got to the moon.
    But because no private entity is allowed to be very rich under this society, only the government would be able to fund science. So we may still have a moon landing, but companies like TSMC and SpaceX simply would not exist in this world.
    Then you can insert any of the valid critiques of government-managed science (such as voters being short-sighted) and you end up with a system that is not maximally conducive to long-term innovation. And here's the kicker: due to exponential economic growth, at a long enough timespan innovation is realistically the only thing that matters for prosperity, since it far outstrips other factors like inequality. (This is unless growth plateaus, but we're centuries from that.) So it's likely that this government system will fall behind the living standards of some other system which allows private innovation, for everyone in the society, within a few hundred years.
    I can only think of two ways around this issue. The first is that you solve the issues with government-managed science. This would require you to make a government that is not fully democratic, in order to prioritize long-term science over other spending even if most voters are against it. The second is that you change how corporations work so that you allow them to get very wealthy - enough to fund scientific endeavors - but somehow disallow the wealth to be spent on individualistic pursuits. This is basically reinventing capitalism and requires a very high standard on transparency which is probably only possible with futuristic technology that, with one wrong turn, could be used to spy on everyone. Both of these fixes don't seem very realistic or ideal.

  • @randomobserver8168
    @randomobserver8168 Před 21 dnem +5

    I would not, and would actively resist any attempt to try. Every utopia is someone's dystopia, and frankly any utopia that would appeal to any large number of people would alienate as many. Worse, sooner or later even the designer figures out that his own vision of perfection is alienating even to him, should he live long enough. Plus, and given that usually somewhat balanced reality between proponents and opponents of any utopian vision, it raises the stakes so unspeakably high as to both necessitate and justify all out war to advance or resist the cause.
    The liberal democratic model of endless incremental dispute, occasional changes of direction, and sometimes change of something long established, including the dreams of the past generation, is better. Forever. Pity its on its last legs.

  • @hko2006
    @hko2006 Před 21 dnem

    People often ask "would you rather be a king in the past or a regular modern guy", Rawls' veil of ignorance ask "you sure you wont just be one of the many slaves in the past?" advocating a more fair society

    • @KuK137
      @KuK137 Před 21 dnem +1

      And he fails to consider many imbeciles today on far right would be happily enslaved if that meant these damn commies (read - everyone normal) were enslaved too, mind boggling...

  • @Nuhemio
    @Nuhemio Před 20 dny

    Pioneering thought-experiment.

  • @JPBVideo
    @JPBVideo Před 21 dnem +29

    Rawls dismissed certain solutions as being based on unrealistic expectations but then sets up an entire thought experiment based on the unrealistic expectations of people not knowing their own history or background.

    • @Rikri
      @Rikri Před 21 dnem

      To be fair, some of the ideals are easier to strive towards than those proposed by something like Marxism, which I would imagine was what he meant.

    • @marcusmoonstein242
      @marcusmoonstein242 Před 21 dnem +1

      I think Rawls was aware that our own self-interests heavily skews what we see as "just" or fair, and his entire theory was meant to make us conscious of this often unconscious bias. We are meant to imagine what we would believe if we weren't aware of our individual circumstances, and justify those beliefs with rational arguments based on the premise of our ignorance.

  • @icecreamtruckog3667
    @icecreamtruckog3667 Před 14 dny

    I have to ask what is fair about a society where one can have a private airport and plane (John Travolta) and others can not afford to eat.

  • @Dude-xb3xh
    @Dude-xb3xh Před 21 dnem +6

    I mean utopia is impossible even the etymology of the very word says that but if it existed it needs a balance of altruism and independence

  • @paige_netting
    @paige_netting Před 3 dny

    if i had to design a society i would panic and dump us into the maze runner series

  • @owain_rj
    @owain_rj Před 21 dnem +23

    Why does it need to be framed as the natural solution theoretically unbiased people would come to?
    It’s just his opinion on how he thinks society should be organised. Making assumptions about the behaviour of “unbiased people” is impossible as any real person is thinking from a biased perspective.

    • @mrkartoffel7418
      @mrkartoffel7418 Před 8 dny +1

      Well I think the point is he’s trying to look at it if he had no bias.

  • @lonely_warrior7846
    @lonely_warrior7846 Před 21 dnem

    sounds good but will it work?

  • @markadams7046
    @markadams7046 Před 21 dnem +18

    I don't think a fair society could ever be achieved. One can only get closer to fairness by attempting to be fair, but the gravity of reality will always weigh us down.

  • @cru3her608
    @cru3her608 Před 21 dnem +1

    there's only 1 possible way to make a perfect society, the people need to be moral! without morality it's impossible to have a good society.

  • @citrushypothesis
    @citrushypothesis Před 10 dny

    The visuals are really cool, but quite distracting. I imagine the designer intended to use basic shapes and colors to abstractly tell the story, but this video could have benefitted from a more literal approach in some instances such as definitions of key points and illustrations of concepts to better visualize the information.

  • @damie9412
    @damie9412 Před 21 dnem

    Nice

  • @kanishkachowdary4246
    @kanishkachowdary4246 Před 21 dnem +1

    That is not Martha Nussbaum. It is Amartya Sen. Martha Nussbaum carried Sen’s idea frwrd to include gender justice.

  • @SATS600
    @SATS600 Před 21 dnem +4

    Thing is, if just the mere thought of doing something better than others drives someone then inequality and many other problems will prevail, we may make food available to everyone but if things like taste matter then someone will have to be marginalized. I think inequality is bad only if the next generation gets severely unprivileged as sometimes it is these hardships that make us learn new things and with time those who were rich earlier, will find their coming generation not prevail. So the society kinda becomes a pendulum between different sets of people.

  • @cru3her608
    @cru3her608 Před 21 dnem +4

    "Rely on government regulation to ensure a just distribution of property and wealth" this completely destroyes any possibility of this working!

    • @steelcladCompliant
      @steelcladCompliant Před 21 dnem +4

      Yeah because relying on the market to do that has been working wonders so far. Just vote a non-shite government that governs for the people instead of for corporations

    • @cru3her608
      @cru3her608 Před 21 dnem +3

      @@steelcladCompliant it actually has worked perfectly.
      corporations are beholdent to you cuz they only have power as long as you give them your money, so you are the one whos really in power. the government is not beholdent to anyone. relying on the benevolence of a government is foolish.
      just look at any place in the world that has a big goverment.

    • @KuK137
      @KuK137 Před 21 dnem +1

      Imagine being so indoctrinated by ultra rich (aka people who want to steal from everyone else so hate any kind of just system) that you turned your brain off and spouted flat earth grade nonsense. Bravo...

    • @steelcladCompliant
      @steelcladCompliant Před 21 dnem +3

      @@cru3her608 Bro was born yesterday 😂

    • @cru3her608
      @cru3her608 Před 21 dnem +1

      @@steelcladCompliant tipycal all you can do is insult, cant actually give a logical answer

  • @10thMorales
    @10thMorales Před 21 dnem

    “Here I am laying as a foundation in Zion a tested stone, \ the precious cornerstone of a sure foundation. \ No one exercising faith will panic. \ And I will make justice the measuring line \ and righteousness the leveling tool. \ The hail will sweep away the refuge of lies, \ and the waters will flood out the hiding place.”
    (Isaiah 28:16, 17)

  • @anuragsharma4159
    @anuragsharma4159 Před 18 dny

    In notification the title of this video was "3 easy steps to build a real utopia"
    what are those 3 steps?

  • @JoshMathewsofficial
    @JoshMathewsofficial Před 10 dny

    Sounds remarkably similar at points to Georgism

  • @smolblacquecat7148
    @smolblacquecat7148 Před 21 dnem +3

    The visuals and sfx feels like they belong in a video game!

  • @ahmadbashir1115
    @ahmadbashir1115 Před 21 dnem

    Top kek!

  • @kacperswiercz557
    @kacperswiercz557 Před 21 dnem +6

    Yeah, the graphics are cool and fun to watch, but in my opinion they are disctracting the viewer from the narrative. It would be better video if the graphics helped the viewer understand and visualize discussed topic instead of making it more difficult.
    I saw the comment saying "I had to watch it twice. [...]" like it was a good thing. I am happy that this person found it so entertaining, but it proves my point that graphics are the opposite of helpful here.

    • @captainbrainius6273
      @captainbrainius6273 Před 21 dnem +1

      I'd say these visuals are appropriate, as they are as vague and undefined as Rawl's "totally not communist" utopia.

  • @jl9088
    @jl9088 Před 10 dny

    Though, raw's philosophy isn't perfect as it's not considering other factors that needs to be thought of, like the limitations of resources. It's certainly a good philosophical thought as a means of progressive society... I could be wrong but it's philosophy nothing is simple. Just like there are many different colors but there is still one source of such things and one main goal, which is to make people see and understand. (regardless of it being less or more types being seen, there's always more than one types that helps us understand the world.)

  • @SpaceMonke300
    @SpaceMonke300 Před 21 dnem +3

    A place where you don't know the people's age and gender seems like a disaster. How many elementary schools should we build? How many colleges? How many nursing homes? How do people reproduce if they don't know their parners age and gender XD?
    From an economic perspective this theory is pure insanity.

  • @jorgschaper4911
    @jorgschaper4911 Před 20 dny +1

    (Profound statement)